Jul 19, 2021 Planning Commission

MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

SEEING NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ADDISON SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ELLENDER? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA SAYING NONE OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED? WE CAN NOW

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MR. CHAIRMAN, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS MAY BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HEAR ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLAN AMENDMENT 7 21 1 5 6 9 4 1 5 6 9 6 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY AND SUBDIVISION 4 21 TRIVENTO SUBDIVISION, PA 7 21 15 6 9 415 6 9 6 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY RELATED CASE S 4 21 LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY, NORTH OF GROOM ROAD, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS.

THE APPLICANT IS ADAM CURTIS AND THE CURRENT FEATURE WOULD BE A LAND USE DESIGNATION AS INDUSTRIAL.

WHAT THEY REQUESTED USE OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS CASE S 4 21.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 986, RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND 37 COMMON AREA TRACKS ON PUBLIC STREETS, PA 7 21 15 6, 9, 4 AND 15 6, 9, 6 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY RELATED CASE AS 4 21.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON EXAMINATION OF THE AREA AT FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES STAFF ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION HIT THE COMPANION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.

AT THIS TIME, THERE WERE UNRESOLVED ISSUES WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT.

THEREFORE WE RECOMMEND TO DENY OR DEFER FOR 30 DAYS IN AN EFFORT TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUES.

WE HAVE RECEIVED OPPOSITION FROM THE CITY OF ZACHARY TO MEMBERS OF THE ZACHARY SCHOOL BOARD IN 24 MESSAGES AND OPPOSITION FROM THE PUBLIC.

AGAIN, THESE ITEMS CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER, HOWEVER, A RECOMMENDED A SEPARATE VOTE ON BOTH OF THESE ITEMS.

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AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK UP HERE AND NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS ERIC PIAZZA REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.

THERE ARE TWO APPLICATIONS BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT.

THE FIRST APPLICATION IS FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL WITHIN THE EXISTING WORLD ZONING.

THERE'S NO ATTEMPT HERE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.

THIS WOULD SIMPLY BE A PLAT WITHIN THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, WE'VE MET WITH COUNCILWOMAN BANKS AND I HAD A PUBLIC MEETING LAST WEEK TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND TRY TO INFORM THE PUBLIC OF ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE.

WE CAN ALSO DO THAT TONIGHT.

THE SECOND APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM INDUSTRIAL DOWN TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS A DOWNGRADE OF THE FUTURE USE OF THE PROPERTY TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE RURAL ZONING.

ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, THE DRC REPORT CAME OUT AND MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE STREET CROSS-SECTIONS FOR THIS PROJECT.

THAT'S A VERY TECHNICAL ISSUE, BUT, BUT VERY SIMPLY PUT, IT MEANS THAT THE ONE OF THE STREET WITH WAS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UDC.

THAT ISSUE HAS BEEN RESUBMITTED TO THE SUBDIVISION OFFICE.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SUBDIVISION OFFICE IS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT WE DID NOT MEET THE DEADLINE AND THEREFORE THE PACKAGE AND THE PLATTE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS NOT THE FINAL PLAT THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.

THEREFORE WE ARE REQUESTING TO FURROW FOR 30 DAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU, AND WHAT YOU WOULD APPROVE IS ACTUALLY BEEN SUBMITTED AND PROPERLY GIVEN TO YOU.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

BOTH APPLICATIONS, PLEASE.

AND I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM WITH THE APPLICANT THAT HE'S REQUESTING A DEFERRAL FOR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. THAT'S CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER MEMBERS, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A DEFERRAL FOR THESE ITEMS IN LIGHT OF THE ISSUES THAT HE, UH, JUST STATED AND TO THE PUBLIC AND SPECIFICALLY TO THE, UH, THOSE THAT SHOWED UP, UH, TOOK THE TIME TO SHOW UP THIS EVENING, BUT, UH, WE'RE INTENDED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

WE HISTORICALLY HAVE GRANTED THAT REQUEST, UH, FOR DEFERRAL.

AND SO I HIGHLY ANTICIPATED THAT EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WOULD THAT BEING SAID, WE WOULD ASK, AS WE DO IN ALL OF THESE INSTANCES, WE WILL ASK THAT THE PUBLIC WITHHOLD THEIR COMMENTS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, WHEN THIS ITEM WOULD BE HEARD OR ASSUMING THAT IS AT THE FIRST 4, 4 30 DAYS AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATE THAT NO DECISION WILL NOT, WILL BE MADE.

AND THE, AND THE APPLICANT HASN'T, UH, FULLY PRESENTED THIS ITEM.

WE ASKED THAT THE PUBLIC, THOSE THAT INTENDED TO SPEAK WOULD WITHHOLD THOSE COMMENTS TO THE FOLLOWING MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE CANNOT MANDATE THAT.

SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT FEELS THE NEED THAT THEY HAVE TO SPEAK, UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S, IF THAT IS THE CASE, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FEEDER WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, THANK YOU.

OBJECTIONS TO DEFERRING THAT ITEM FOR 30 DAYS SAYING NOT THOSE ITEMS? THOSE TWO ITEMS HAVE BEEN DEFERRED FOR 30 DAYS, JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING DATE IS AUGUST 16TH.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN NOAH WHO WAS PRESENT WITH US TODAY AND SEE IF HE HAS A COMMENT ON THIS, UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCILMAN, THERE YOU GO.

UH, SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE NEXT DOOR AND THEY'RE MESSAGING ME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.

AND SO I WAS TRYING TO ADVISE THEM JUST AS YOU SAID, UH, I THINK SOME OF THEM WERE GOING TO MAYBE SAY, UH, THAT THEY WERE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

UH, I THINK THERE'S, UH, QUITE A FEW OF THEM HERE.

I KNOW WE HAVE A SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT POLICE, CHIEF WAS ZACHARY AMONG SOME OTHER OFFICIALS.

UM, AND, UH, I ENCOURAGED THEM TO SHOW UP AGAIN.

I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE MORE, UH, NOW THAT THERE'S MORE OF A GROUNDSWELL AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 30 MORE DAYS.

SO, UH, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S, UH, TOM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK ON THIS.

UM, AND, UH, BUT OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOU ALL THE TIME, CERTAINLY WE DON'T WANT TO BE REPETITIVE AND, AND I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS FOR THAT MEETING AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN NOLAN, THANK YOU TO EACH OF THE SPEAKERS THAT TOOK THE TIME TO COME OUT AND, AND I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THAT YOU WILL HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE, AT THE NEXT MEETING.

WHEN THIS ITEM IS HEARD AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.

UH, COMMISSIONER HILL I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEFER FOR 30 DAYS.

THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER TO AMEND OUR RULES, UH, WHICH WOULD GENERALLY, UH, CREATE AN A 60 DAY DEFERRAL.

AND WE'LL DO A 30 DAY DEFERRAL.

WAS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THERE'S A SECOND FROM THE VICE CHAIR.

ARE THERE ANY

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SO BOTH THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN DEFERRED TO AUGUST 16.

WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THE PUBLIC BACK HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE, MR. CHAIRMAN,

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THE NEXT THREE ITEMS CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

THANK YOU, MR. HOLCOMB.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HEAR ITEMS NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 10 21 AND CASE 33 21 3 2 0 5 AND 3, 2 1 5 JONES CREEK ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER SIX, SUBDIVISION 8 21, THE PARK AT JONES CREEK CASE 8 10 21 3205 AND 32 1 5 JONES CREEK ROAD RELATED CASES, 33 21 AND S 8 21 LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF JOHNS CREEK ROAD, SOUTH APPAREL SPERRY ROAD, COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT.

AMOROSO THE APPLICANT IS CHAD STEVENS AND THE CURRENT FUTURE VR LAND USE DESIGNATION OF JUSTIN'S OWN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A REQUESTED LAND USE OF COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD RELATED CASE 33 21.

THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTIES ARE RURAL.

AND THE REQUESTED REASONING IS TOWNHOUSE RESIDENTIAL 82.5 FOR THE PROPOSED USE OF TOWNHOMES CASE S H 21.

APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 23 TOWNHOMES AND TWO COMMON AREA ATTRACTS ACCESSIBLE BY PUBLIC STREETS CASE PA 10 21 3205 AND 32 1 5 JONES CREEK ROAD RELATED CASES, 33 21 AND S 8 21 STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON EXAMINATION OF THE AREA AT A FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES STAFF ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR CHANGING OF ZONING.

IF THE COMPANION PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS, STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE EDC FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION.

IF THE COMPANION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING ARE APPROVED, WE RECEIVED FOUR MESSAGES IN SUPPORT TO THESE ITEMS AND RECEIVED 30 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION, AND ALSO A MESSAGE OF CONCERN FROM THE HIGHWOODS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MICKEY ROBERTSON WITH EMR ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE PHONE PLAN FOR THE PARK AT JONES CREEK.

NOW THIS IS A 23 LOT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON ABOUT FOUR ACRES.

UH, IT'S LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF JOHNS CREEK, JUST ACROSS FROM THE TERRELL ROAD.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING AND DESIGNATION OF SOME OF THE ADJACENT PARCELS, WHICH ARE 8 3, 3 MULTIFAMILY AND COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE AREA IN CLOSER DETAIL AND HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE RESOUNDING AS WELL AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, AS WELL AS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC.

ALTHOUGH OUR SITE IS ALMOST FOUR ACRES, WE ARE LIMITING THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE FRONT TWO ACRES, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE TWO HOME SITES THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW, OR THIS AREA IS ALREADY CLEARED.

UH, BASICALLY DEVELOPED THE REAR TWO ACRES OF THE SITE WILL REMAIN WOODED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO WEEK OR A DRY DETENTION POND.

NOW BEING BACK THERE, WE HAVE OVERSIZED THIS POND BY 25%, UH, TO HELP INCREASE THE FLOOD ZONE, UH, IN THE AREA AND HELP WITH DRAINAGE.

WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS TO DESIGN FOR A 25 YEAR STORM.

AND WE HAVE DESIGNED IT FOR A HUNDRED YEAR STORM OF THE TWO ACRES IN THE FRONT OF THE SITE, JUST A LITTLE OVER 10% OF THE SITE IS ACTUALLY IN THE FLOOD ZONE AND THE PROPERTY HAS A FAIRLY GOOD AMOUNT OF DROP FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY JUST FEELING A LITTLE BIT OF THE SLOPE FOR THE REAR UNITS THAT ARE OFF OF JOHN'S CREEK.

SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE DECREASING THE FLOW OFF THE SITE WOULD HELP HIM WITH DRAINAGE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF ALL OF THESE.

SO AGAIN, ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CORES FOR MEMBERS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? THE CARDS IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? WE HAVE TWO IN OPPOSITION IN ONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE THAT PERSON UP AT THIS TIME.

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YOU'RE JOHN DAISY.

HI, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.

UH, THANK YOU.

YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY JOHN DAIGLE.

UM, SO, UM, LIKE A NUMBER OF THE FOLKS WHO'VE SUBMITTED COMMENTS.

I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE FACT THAT 50% OF THE SITE IS IN THE SPECIAL HAZARD FLOOD ZONE AND THE PUBLIC IS AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ASSESS THE INFORMATION THAT IS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEBSITE.

AND THAT'S RARELY ADEQUATE TO GET A FULL IDEA OF WHAT THE PLAN ACTUALLY IS.

BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE OUT THERE, WE KNOW THAT, UM, THERE WAS SEVERE FLOODING THERE IN 2016 AND THE SITE BACKS UP TO A CREASE.

SO, UH, IT'S KNOX BRANCH DRAINS INTO JONES CREEK IS A TRIBUTARY.

SO, UH, PRIORITY SHOULD BE FOR ALL SITES NOW NOT TO BUILD IN THE EIGHT E FLOOD ZONE, THE SPECIAL FLOOD AREA HAZARD ZONE, AND EVERY PROJECT THAT COMES UP, UH, IN WHICH THAT'S APPROVED HAS A POTENTIAL TO REALLY DAMAGE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE PARISH IN TERMS OF THIS FLOODING TREND, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS GETTING WORSE BECAUSE WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN MAY.

SO, UM, FROM THE PLANS THAT THEY'VE SHOWN, THERE ARE LOTS THAT, UH, ARE, UH, ONE LOT IS COMPLETELY IN THE FLOOD ZONE.

UH, I'M GOING BY WHAT WAS ON THE WEBSITE.

SO IT SHOWS ONE LOT, NUMBER 11, COMPLETELY IN THE FLOOD ZONE, NUMBER 12, ALMOST THAT, AND THEN THEY GET LOWER.

HE SHOULD GO SOUTH, BUT THEY BACK UP TO THE FLOOD ZONE AND THERE IS A 20, 20 FOOT, UM, BUFFER OF SORTS.

UH, SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UH, GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND THE SITUATION IN THE AREA, UH, WE JUST SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWING ANY DEVELOPMENT OF LAND THAT IS IN THE FLOOD ZONE AT THIS POINT.

AND IF PLANS CAN BE AMENDED TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THAT SEEMS THE OPTIMUM, UH, THING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE.

IF THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THAT ALTHOUGH 50% OF THE SITE IS IN THE FLOOD ZONE, WE'RE ONLY DEVELOPING, UH, THE LESS THAN A HALF AN ACRE OF IT AT THE REAR, THE LOTS THAT'S IN THE FLOOD ZONE.

AND WE ARE INCREASING THE FLOOD STORAGE BY OVER DIGGING OUR DETENTION POND.

SO WE ARE HELPING IMPROVE DRAINAGE FOR THE AREA.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY REAL CONCERN I HEARD.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM OR ANY MOTIONS, COMMISSIONER BANKS.

HE LOOKED LIKE HE JUST ITCHING TO SAY SOMETHING.

WELL, IT'S NOT BEEN A MISSION, BUT I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, TO THE CLIENT.

IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD? YEAH, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE FOR ANY, UM, BUILDING IN A FLOOD ZONE REGARDING REGARDLESS AS TO WHERE ALONG THE FLOOD ZONE, UM, IS, IS BEING UTILIZED OR PLANNED FOR.

AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT WE FOUND HISTORICALLY IS THAT THE ANSWER IS NOT A RETENTION POND, NOT ONLY, UM, BECAUSE IT APPEARS THAT THEY'RE, THEY AREN'T WORKING FUNCTIONALLY, UM, IN A LOT OF THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE FLOODED AND THERE HAVE BEEN A RETENTION POND, BUT ALSO THERE'S NO ONE WHO IS MAINTAINING OR TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN.

WE HEAR FROM THE, UM, FROM DEVELOPERS WHO SAY THEY WHO SAY THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE TO MAINTAIN, WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS.

IT SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS SUPPOSED TO, UM, MAINTAIN THE RETENTION POND.

I DON'T THINK THE, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING HAS ANYTHING THAT ADDRESSED THE, UM, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, THE MAINTENANCE, BUT ALSO ANYTHING THAT ADDRESSED WHO IS SUPPOSED TO MANAGE THAT OR WHO

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ACCOUNTS FOR THAT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, NOW I'M AT THE PLACE WHERE, UH, UNTIL THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED THAT WE NOT BUILD IN FLOOD AREAS AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T SHOULD NOT BUILD AND FLOOD AREAS WHERE THE ANSWER TO DRAINAGE IS A RETENTION POND.

SO, UH, I HAVE A MOTION TO THE CON DID NOT RIGHT.

AND THIS IS OKAY.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER OF BANKS TO DENY THESE ITEMS. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR COMMENTS AS AN OBJECTION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? DID YOU HAVE COMMENTS THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE? ALSO? I, I UNDERSTAND, UH, COMMISSIONER BANK'S CONCERN, HOWEVER, UM, I DON'T THINK WE CAN UNILATERALLY START MAKING A MORATORIUM.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO GET FROM COUNCIL.

SO I DON'T RECALL, UM, MAKING A, UM, AT FIRST OF ALL, THE COUNCIL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN APPROVE A MORATORIUM.

I DON'T RECALL ASKING OR IN ANY WAY, SUGGESTING THAT THIS BE AN ACTION OF MORATORIUM, HOWEVER, AS AN INDIVIDUAL MEN MEMBER OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION, I HAVE SAID THAT I RECOMMEND THAT WE DENY AND I GAVE MY REASON AND IT'S UP TO COUNCIL TO PROCEED IN AN, UM, AS THEY WISH.

MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE TO GO BY WHAT SEEMED THE UDC AND WHAT'S IN THE LAW.

AND IF THIS, IF THIS MEETS THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN PLAN REVIEW, THEN TO SIMPLY SAY, WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODING AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

I'M VERY CONCERNED.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE NOT W W WE'RE NOT HOLDING TO THE CODE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ENFORCING, BUT WE'RE STARTING TO PUT OUR OWN PERSONAL PREFERENCES ON IT.

AND THAT, THAT CONCERNS ME.

UM, I, I CANNOT, I CANNOT VOTE FOR, TO DENY THIS BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT WAS FLOODING BEFORE THERE IS FLOODING STILL, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE DIRECTION, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT JUST FLAT DENYING THIS, BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S IN A FLOOD ZONE.

THEY CAN BUILD IN FLOOD ZONES.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN ENTIRE ORDINANCE ABOUT THIS.

I MAY NOT LIKE A LOT OF IT, BUT IT IS THE ORDINANCE.

AND IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT, THEN WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.

THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.

COMMISSION MEMBERS, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UH, TO DENY THESE ITEMS. A MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED.

THERE'S ONE OBJECTION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL OBJECTIONS, COMMISSIONER ISLANDER? YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE HAVE A, WE DO HAVE A DRAINAGE ISSUE.

I KNOW IT IS BEING ADDRESSED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT, BUT I DO, UH, DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GROUT.

THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

THERE WERE SOME ITEMS TONIGHT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT NO ONE OBJECTED TO THAT, UH, WERE IN THE, IN FLOOD ZONES.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO LOOK AT THINGS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

UM, THIS ONE IT'S 50% IN A FLOOD ZONE, NO LESS THAN THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

UH, I'M, I'M, I'M ALSO SIDE WITH COMMISSIONER BROWN ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ELEANOR, ANY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER HILL, JUST A QUESTION.

UM, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY COMMENTS CAME IN AND TOTAL FOR THESE THREE ITEMS, BUT THIS ONE WE RECEIVED, UM, FOUR MESSAGES IN SUPPORT TO THESE THREE ITEMS AND 30 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION.

ALSO A MESSAGE OF CONCERN FROM THE HIGHWOODS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE, AND SUPPORT 30 IN OPPOSITION, AND ONE MESSAGE OF CONCERN FROM THE HIGHWOODS, HOW MEMBERS ASSOCIATE WAS THERE, ANYBODY FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PRESENT TO SPEAK TO THEIR CONCERN.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BANKS.

AND DRY, WHERE IT GOES TO, UH, IN ME TO ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, THEN IT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY TO NOT ONLY COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A VOTE, IT WOULD ALSO NOT BE NECESSARY FOR IT TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

SO, UM, I DO THINK IT THAT, UM, THE, WHEN THE, UM, ISSUE COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT IT IS LIKE A CHECKLIST WHERE IT DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT THE ITEMS ARE COMPLIANT TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.

BUT IF IT WAS JUST CUTTING

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AND LASTLY, IT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, THE FACT THAT IT COMES TO BEFORE, UH, PLANNING OUR US AS A COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL, AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC AIRING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE THINGS THAT IMPACT THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN A HOLISTIC WAY.

SO I DO THINK THAT, UM, WE SHOULD NEVER JUST SAY IT IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT PASSES ALL THE SMELL TEST.

UM, THE FACT THAT THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS ON THE, UH, ITEMS IN THE CONSENT DECREE, INCLUDING FROM MYSELF AS AN INDICATION THAT THERE'S NOT AN, A DESIRE TO IMPLEMENT A MORATORIUM.

HOWEVER, UM, I AM, I AM, UM, I THINK I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO, UM, UTILIZE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE.

AND ONE OF THEM IS SEEING, UH, WHERE CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS HAVE NOT WORKED OUT WELL BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE PLAN AND THE PLAN WAS A RETENTION PLAN, UM, FOR DRAINAGE IN THIS AREA.

AND SO IT IS BASED ON NOT JUST WHAT'S UDC, IT IS ALSO BASED ON PRIOR EXPERIENCES.

IT'S BASED ON KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN.

IT'S BASED ON PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THE COMMENTS OF THE PUBLIC.

SO I DO HOPE THAT WE'RE NEVER, SO NARROW-MINDED THAT WE ONLY GO BY THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF, UM, THE PLANNING STAFF, BUT ALSO THAT WE USE ALL THE TOOLS BEFORE US TO MAKE DECISIONS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BANKS.

AND I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME IT PROBABLY WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, BUT JUST SO THAT EVERYONE'S CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A SUBSTITUTE MOTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, AND THEN EVERYONE CAN VOTE THAT WAY.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? MY SECOND.

THE MOTION THAT WILL TAKE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FIRST AND THAT'S TO APPROVE THESE THREE ITEMS. IT'S ITEMS FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON TO APPROVE.

VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON, COMMISSIONER BANKS.

COMMISSIONER ELLENDER.

COMMISSIONER HILL.

COMMISSIONER STERLING.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS MAY BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

MOTION PASSES WITH A FIVE TO TWO VOTE.

MR. CHAIRMAN,

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THANK YOU, COMMISSION MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS. NUMBER SEVEN AND EIGHT PLAN AMENDMENT 1121 AND CASE 45 21 62 75 SIEGEN LANE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SIEGEN LANE, NORTH OF CEDAR PARK AVENUE.

COUNCIL 11 ADAMS APPLICANT IS LOOSE ON THE CURRENT FEATURE.

BE OUTLANDISH DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY IS INDUSTRIAL.

AND THE REQUESTED LADY SAYS IGNATION HAS EMPLOYMENT RELATED CASE 45, 21 EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE.

AND THE REQUESTED ZONING HAS HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE AC ONE FOR THE PROPOSED USE OF MOTOR VEHICLE SALES AND REPAIRS, PA 11 21 6 2 7 5 SIEGEN LANE RELATED CASE 45, 20 STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON EXAMINATION OF THE AREA AT A FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES STAFF ALSO CERTIFIES.

AND IF THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING, IF THE COMPANION PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

IT WAS AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I BELIEVE I APPLICANT CAME IN A LITTLE EARLY LAST TIME, BUT I'D LIKE TO INVITE HIM TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

GREAT.

I'LL BE, I'LL BE BRIEF.

UH, MARK, HEY BEAR WITH KURT'S NEIGHBORS COMMERCIAL SITE, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE FAMILY THAT OWNS PROPERTY.

IT'S BEEN A PROPERTY ON THE SINGLE LINE FOR 25 YEARS.

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HEAVIER ZONING IS IN PLACE NOW, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A DOWN ZONING THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO IT.

SOME OF THE, FOR JENNY OPPOSITION WAITING TO HEAR HER A DECISION.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THESE ITEMS? THERE'S ONE SPEAKER CARD.

THERE'S ONE SPEAKER CARD IN FAVOR WHO WISHES? NOT TO SPEAK AND NON IMPOSE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ELLENDER.

SURE.

MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FOR THIS, THESE ITEMS, COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THESE ITEMS. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STERLING.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THESE ITEMS? SEEING NONE OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE TAKE THE NEXT

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TWO ITEMS TOGETHER.

LIKE YOU MUST HAVE HOLD THEM AT THIS TIME.

WE WILL HEAR ITEMS. NUMBER NINE AND 10 PLAN AMENDMENT 1221 AND CASE 46 21 1 0 5 5 5 MODEL LIVE DRIVE, P H TWELVE TWENTY ONE TEN FIVE FIVE FIVE, MOLLY LEE DRIVE RELATED CASE 46 21 LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MOUNT LEE DRIVE WEST OF AYLEEN DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX, DUNN JR.

THE APPLICANT IS MONEY CLAYTOR AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REVISE THE FUTURE OF YOUR LAND.

USE DESIGNATION FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO COMMERCIAL RELATED CASE 46 21.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AWAN TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE HC, ONE FOR A PROPOSED HOSPITAL, P H TWELVE TWENTY ONE TEN FIVE FIVE FIVE, MOLLY LEE DRIVE RELATED CASE 46 21 STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OR THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARING APPROPRIATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.

STAFF ALSO CANNOT CERTIFY THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING CONFORMS TO UDC DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS, AND IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER AND USES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU SEE 219 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION AND MESSAGES AND OPPOSITION FROM THE SHERWOOD FOREST CITIZENS ASSOCIATION, THE SHORT POURS CRIME PREVENTION DISTRICT, THE BROADMORE RESIDENCE, DENTAL ASSOCIATION, AND THE SHARPSTOWN CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

I'M ROB CLAYTOR, UH, HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE PROJECT.

MY WIFE WANTED TO DO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE, UH, PLANT ZONING BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AIR THAT MORE INTERESTED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I'M SORRY.

Y'ALL HAD TO GO OUT, COME OUT HERE TONIGHT AND IT'S OVER WITH, AND THANK YOU.

THANKS.

UH, ARE PEOPLE AT THE ZONE ANYMORE TO CONFIRM YOU'RE WITHDRAWING YOUR APPLICATION? YES.

I WANT TO DO ALL MY APPLE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT WITHDRAW? THERE'S A MOTION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROWL.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SAYING NONE? THAT ITEM HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN COMMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO COME IN MR. CRATER.

UM, YOU KNOW YOU TO KIND OF HUSBAND, WE ALL WANT, UM, HAPPY WIFE, HAPPY LIFE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS MAY BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

PA 13 21 8 1 7 8 INNOVATION PARK RELATED CASE 47 21 LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INNOVATION PARK DRIVE EAST OF BURBERRY COURT COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE GOOD DAY.

YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL HEAR ITEMS. NUMBER 15 AND 16 PLAN AMENDMENT 1521 AND CASE 51 21 1 0 2 17 MAMMOTH AVENUE.

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APOLOGIZE.

AT THIS TIME WE WERE HERE ITEMS NUMBER 11 AND 12 PLAN AMENDMENT 1321 AND CASE 47 21 8 1 7 8 INNOVATION PARK DRIVE

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THE APPLICANT IS BO BOX AND THE CURRENT FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY HAS COME BACK NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE REQUESTED DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL RELATED CASE 47, 21 EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS RURAL.

AND THE REQUESTED ZONING IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE HC ONE FOR THE PROPOSED USE OF OFFICE WAREHOUSE, PA 13 21 8 1 7 8 INNOVATION PARK RELATED CASE 47 21 SNAP RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON EXAMINATION OF THE AREA AND A FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES STAFF.

ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING.

IF THE COMPLAINANT COMPANION PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFIRMING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS, COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

APPLICANT APPEARS NOT TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER COURTS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS.

CHAIRMAN, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

PERMISSION MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FOR THESE ITEMS. COMMISSIONER HILL, JUST A QUESTION.

DO, HOW MANY COMMENTS DID WE GET ON, ON THESE TWO ITEMS? IF I CAN GET ANY STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS FOR AGAINST THE, NOT MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

IT WAS MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER HILL TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

THESE ITEMS ARE THERE.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? UH, SECOND FRONT VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NONE OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED? MR.

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AND THAT'S ITEMS NUMBER 13 AND 14, RIGHT? RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WHERE'S YOUR MEMBERS AT THIS TIME? WE WILL HEAR ITEMS NUMBER 13 AND 14 PLAN AMENDMENT 1421 AND CASE 38 21 2 9 4 4 CRATER LAKE DRIVE CASE P 8, 14 21 2 9 4 4 CRATER LAKE DRIVE RELATED TO CASE 38 21 LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF CRATER LAKE DRIVE, SOUTH OF GREAT SMOKEY AVENUE, COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX, DUNN JR.

THE APPLICANT IS AN SON WHEN THE CURRENT FEATURE BR LENDEES DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY IS INDUSTRIAL.

AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING COMMERCIAL FUTURE VR LANDIS' FOR RELATED CASE 38 21.

THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND ONE, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE, THE HC ONE CASE PA 14 21, 2 9 4 4 CRATER LAKE DRIVE RELATED TO CASE 38 21 STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON EXAMINATION OF THE AREA AT A FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES SNAP.

ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING.

IF THE COMPANION PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS, COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS ANTHONY .

I'M THE APPLICANT FOR CASE 38 21 AND PA 1421.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO ANSWER THEM? THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER COURTS FOR THESE ITEMS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM IN FAVOR OR OPPOSE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN TAKE THE NEXT TWO ITEMS TOGETHER THAT SONS 15 AND 16.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.

THERE WAS A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THESE ITEMS. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ELLENDER.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THOSE MOTIONS? SAY NONE OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

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MAMMOTH AVENUE RELATED CASE 51 21 LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MAMMOTH AVENUE, EAST OF WEST PURDUE DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE GREEN.

AT THIS TIME WE WERE HERE ITEMS NUMBER 15 AND 16 PLAN AMENDMENT 1521 CASE 51 21 1 0 2 1 7 MAMMOTH AVENUE, PA 15 21 1 0 2 1 7

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THE APPLICANT IS HELEN NELSON.

THE CURRENT FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS INDUSTRIAL AND THE REQUESTED FUTURE BE ATLANTIS.

DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL RELATED CASE 51 21.

THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND ONE, AND THEY REQUESTED ZONING.

I WAS HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE, THE HD ONE PROPOSED USE MOTOR VEHICLE SALES AND REPAIR PA 15 21 1 0 2 1 7 MAMMOTH AVENUE RELATED CASE 51 21 STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON EXAMINATION OF THE AREA AT A FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES STAFF ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR CHANGE OF ZONING.

IF THE COMPANION PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD LIKE THIS, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

I'M HELEN NELSON AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT PROPERTY TEN TWO ONE SEVEN MAMMOTH AVENUE.

UM, DOES IT AFFECT THAT 10 31 9 WAS WE ZONE FROM AN WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE SAME APPROVAL AT THE 10 TO ONE THAT AMENDMENT THEM NOW.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CHORUS FOR THESE ITEMS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN FAVOR OR OPPOSE FOR THIS.

AGAIN, WE CAN TAKE THE NEXT TWO ITEMS TOGETHER.

COMMISSIONER MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, EMOTIONS FOR THESE ITEMS. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER STERLING TO APPROVE THESE ITEMS AS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HILL.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THESE ITEMS? SAY NONE OF THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

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UNLESS YOUR MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, WE WERE HERE.

ITEM NUMBER 19 CASE 32 21 1 4 3 4 4 SOUTH HAROLD'S FERRY ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER 20 SOUTH DIVISION 7 21, THE GARDENS AT FOREST PARK CASE 32 21 14 3 44 SOUTH HERALD SPERRY ROAD RELATED CASE AS 7 21 LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTH HAROLD FERRY ROAD WAS THE PRESIDENT THEY'VE STRIVED COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT.

MARISSA APPLICANT IS BRANDON BAY.

THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS RURAL WITH THE REQUESTED ZONING OF ZERO LOT LINE RESIDENTIAL 8.6 PROPOSED USE IS LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL FUTURE BAIL ANDY'S DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD CASE AS 7 21 PROPOSED 2,600, A LOT LINE RESIDENTIAL, LOTS AND FOUR COMMON AREA ATTRACTS ACCESSIBLE VIA PRIVATE STREETS, CASE 32 21 14 3 44 SOUTH HAROLD SPERRY ROAD RELATED CASE AS 7 21.

STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING.

BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

STAFF ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION.

IF THE REZONING IS APPROVED, FINALLY, COMMISSION STAFF HAS RECEIVED 11 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION AND A MESSAGE OF CONCERN FROM THE HIGHWOODS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ON THESE TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 20 MINUTES.

I'M SORRY, 15 MINUTES.

HEY, BRANDON BAY, UH, REPRESENTING CASE 32 21 AND THE S 7 21, THE GARDENS AT FOREST PARK.

UH, SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL.

JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING REAL CLOSE WITH BRAC ON GETTING SOME OF THE DRAINAGE DONE, UH, NOT IMPACTING THE PROPERTY AND SAVING A BUNCH OF TREES AND VEGETATION.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, SO LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THEM AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS.

OTHERS SPEAKERS IN FAVOR.

I'M SORRY.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS IN FAVOR, BUT WE HAVE FOUR OPPOSE TUITION.

PROPERTY MANAGER AT A PARTICULAR SITE FOR 28 AND A HALF YEARS.

I LIKE TO INVITE THE FIRST SPEAKER UP TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES.

YOU DID.

MY NAME IS JAMES.

I'M THE FORMER

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I HAVE SPENT AT LEAST 10% OF MY LIFE DURING THOSE YEARS IN SOME FORM OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT DEVELOPMENT OPERATION, ALL IN CONJUNCTION WITH PRETTY OLD COVENANT SHOULD EXIST ON THE PROPERTY LIKE A TORY TO BREATH AND TO THE CURRENT OWNER CHURCH OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BATON ROUGE, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS DRIVING THIS REZONING REQUEST AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HAROLD'S FERRY ROAD.

THERE ARE ONLY TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, BOTH ON THE STATE SIZED PROPERTIES.

AND ONE OF WHICH WAS REZONED FAIRLY RECENTLY FOR WORLD A ONE.

THERE WERE NO OTHER PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HAROLD'S FERRY ROAD, COMMERCIAL OR OTHERWISE THEY'RE OCCUPIED 24 7 365.

I EXPRESSED IT BY LETTER TO EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS, A VERY DETAILED LIST OF TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT THAT REALLY, UM, ARE NOT BROUGHT TO LIGHT BY THE APPLICATIONS.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE APPLICATIONS ARE NOT COMPLETE.

THEY'RE NOT, UM, LOGICAL, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE JUST TOTALLY IGNORED.

I'M SORRY.

UH, I WOULD URGE THE COMMISSIONERS TO TAKE A DETAILED LOOK AT MY COMMENTS.

UH, I DO HAVE A TECHNICAL BRAC BACKGROUND AND, UM, I JUST THINK THAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF WITH ALL DUE RESPECT AS ME IS, UM, NOT APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE.

SO, UH, WE ARE DEFINITELY A GAS.

I'LL INVITE THE NEXT SPEAKER.

I'M UH, TOMMY ALLEN.

WE'VE GOT THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, RUNNING 850 FEET TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

AND, UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS OWNED BY HER TRI AND THEY MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH BRECK MANY YEARS AGO IN HOME.

SEVERAL TIMES THAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD NEVER BE SHUTTERED DIVIDED, UH, OTHER THAN RURAL.

AND IT'S, UH, I, I GOT A STATEMENT HERE SAYS OBLIGOR'S UPGRADE TO GRANT A PRE DOLL SERVITUDE IN FAVOR OF PROPERTY, ORIGINALLY SONG TO THE AUBURN G PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE STATEMENT, THE SEC SAID, SIR, TO RUNNING AGAINST THE LANHAM HOME PLACE OR ANY POT THERE OUT OF THIS HOUSE, THIS SYSTEM RESTRICTION ON THE USE OF THE HOME.

IT'S ONLY THOSE USERS THAT WILL COMPLY WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS AND EXISTENCE.

ON, ON THIS DAY, I WAS, UH, EUGENE YOUNG WAS THE, UH, SUPERINTENDENT, UH, CRACK AT THAT TIME AND THROW OUT THE HISTORY OF THAT PROPERTY THAT WE'VE BEEN LIVING ON, UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, WELL, 50 YEARS PLUS.

AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT IT WOULDN'T EVER BE REASONED HOME OTHER THAN, THAN THE ROAD.

WHEREAS, UH, THE REASON ON IT, IT'S A NARROW PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE THAT THEY WANT, THAT THEY GO.

THEY WANT TO PUT THIS UP DIVISION, MAN.

IT'S NOT A 25 FEET AS YOU MEASURE FROM, FROM MY POOL SIDE THAT THE TRIBE BUILDING.

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IT, WE, UH, WE ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOOD AND HUNDRED PLANET AND COMMISSIONERS SAID, WELL, THEY CAN'T STOP BEING FLOODED.

I SAID, WHEN I'VE ALREADY HAD, WHEN THEY CAME OUT THERE AND DID THEIR PRELIMINARY WORK, THEY CAME IN THERE WITH A MACHINE FAILED, ALL OF THEM DITCHES UP WITH DEBRIS.

AND WE GOT TWO INCHES OF WATER IN MY BARN AND ONLY TWO INCHES FROM MY, FROM GETTING OUT OF THE HOUSE.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY AGAINST THAT.

AND I WANT TO GO AND RIDE AGAIN AS OPPOSING IT.

HI, YOU MAY PROCEED SHEILA ALLEN.

I'M THE OTHER HALF OF THE TEAM THAT JUST SPOKE AND WE'VE LIVED ON THE PROPERTY FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

OUR CHILDREN WERE BORN THERE.

OUR SON WAS NAMED AFTER KURT DRY IN MAY, AFTER THEY DID PRELIMINARY WORK AND DID ALL THE DRAINAGE.

MY HUSBAND HAD TO TAKE THE TRACTOR OUT AND GO CLEAN UP THE DRAINAGE.

SO WE WOULDN'T FLOOD.

AS HE SAID, IT CAME INTO OUR BARN AND ALMOST CAME INTO THE HOUSE.

AGAIN, WE FLOODED IN 2016, THIS PRINT HILL OR A COVENANT THAT WAS MADE WITH EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH, AND BRETT OUGHT TO BE HONORED.

AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER BANKS TALKED ABOUT THERE SHOULDN'T BE A NECESSARILY A MORATORIUM ON FLOODING, BUT THERE'S BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF FLOODING IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT DIDN'T USE TO HAPPEN.

SOMETHING DOES NEED TO BE DONE.

THE NEXT SPEAKER, MY NAME IS JOHN DEAN.

UH, I OWN THE PROPERTY SORTA ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THEORETIC, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO ACTUALITIES.

SO MY PROPERTY DIDN'T FLOOD IN MAY, BUT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR HAD WATER UP TO THE DOORSTEP POINT, HELD OUT OF THE HOUSE.

MIKE SANDBAGS, THE HOUSE LOT NEXT DOOR IS INTO THE ONE NEXT TO THAT FLOODED TO BEHIND THAT FLOODED HOME IN MAY.

IT DID NOT FLOOD IN 16.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THAT RA BUILDS UP IN THAT AREA.

AND I'VE LOOKED AT THE PLANS FOR THIS THING OFF THE WEBSITE, AND IT'S COMPLETELY COVERED WITH CONCRETE, TOTALLY COVERED CONCRETE.

AND I ALSO WAS CURIOUS AS TO NOT ONLY THESE PEOPLE'S FLIGHT, BUT THE REDEEMER BAPTIST CHURCH, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEM, WHAT'S IT GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM? BECAUSE WHEN THE 15 MAY, MAY, UH, FLOODS HAPPENED, UH, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, GARBAGE CANS, WHICH WERE ON THE CURB TO BE PICKED UP WERE ALL THE WAY TO FOREST PARK BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH WATER CAME UP ALL THE WAY ACROSS THAT AREA.

AND THAT'S NOT DUE TO LACK OF OVER CONVENIENCE CAUSE THAT'S A BRAND NEW ROW.

WE RAN NEW CULVERTS.

THEY'RE ALL WIDE OPEN.

THAT'S JUST DUE TO THE FACT THERE'S NOTHING.

SORRY, COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC? YOU'RE GONNA TRY NOT TO REVERBERATE BACK LIKE SHE WAS DOING.

IT'S NOT DUE TO LACK OF GOOD CULVERTS AND STUFF.

THOSE ARE ALL BRAND NEW AND WIDE OPENNESS, JUST, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY TO RUN ALYSSA OFTEN THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS, IS JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT 24 HOUSES ON ONE STREET, LIKE THE PLAN SHOWS.

THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THAT.

AND I DIDN'T SEE RETENTION POND OR ANYTHING ELSE ON THEIR PLANS AS WELL.

AND THE DEVELOPER WHERE HE WAS, UH, APPLICANT.

DIDN'T UH, THAT'S A QUESTION I HAVE WITH HIM.

WHAT MITIGATION DO YOU HAVE BESIDES IT'S GOING TO RUN INTO FOREST PARK.

I STILL HAVE NO MITIGATION WHATSOEVER ON THEIR PLANS AND MADE SURE BANKS MENTIONED THAT RETENTION PONDS DON'T WORK, BUT NO PONDS AT ALL IN THIS PLAN.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR MITIGATION PLANS ARE.

IF THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKER CORES, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS NEXT DOOR THEY'VE LIVED THERE A LONG TIME.

UM, WE DID DO SOME PRELIMINARY BUSH HOG AND THEN SO I KNOW THE GRASS CUTTING UPSET.

Y'ALL WE, WE HAD BEEN WORKING THE BRET.

SO FOR THE DRAINAGE, UM, IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE PLANE.

THERE'S TWO PAGES ON THE PLAN.

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP INCREASE THE PIPING AT BRECK ALONG WITH MAKE THEIR POND BIGGER.

AND THE DRAINAGE THAT CURRENTLY GOES INTO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM FROM RIGHT, WHEN THAT WILL BE PICKED UP IN THE POND THAT WE'RE DIGGING OR OUR SUBDIVISION AND BREX, WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO MORE.

UM, I LIVE IN THE SUBDIVISION BEHIND AS WELL.

I FLOODED IN 16.

SO I'M DOING THIS KNOWING THIS WILL INCREASE

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THE DRAINAGE.

UM, THE AGREEMENT THEY ARE DISCUSSING WAS REVISED IN 1977 TO BE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR BE ONE OFFICE.

UM, AND THEN AS, UH, SOME OF THE TECHNICAL STUFF, MY ENGINEER, MARIE MCCULLOUGH.

THANK YOU, MICHELLE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MY NAME IS MARIE MCCULLOUGH WITH BENCHMARK GROUP 11 3 28.

PENNY WOULD AVE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY AT THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.

UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE STONEWALL MANAGEMENTS, NO MORE THAN DETENTION.

THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS A GREAT COOPERATION BETWEEN PUBLIC PRIVATE COOPERATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPERS AND BRECK.

WE HAD, WE, I KNOW I ATTENDED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH BRACKEN.

THEY HAD SEVERAL OTHER MEETINGS.

SO IN, IN WHAT I WOULD CALL A CORPORATE ENDEAVOR AGREEMENT, WE'VE AGREED.

THE DEVELOPERS HAVE AGREED TO, UH, ADD AN AMENITY TO BRETT'S SITE WHILE INCREASING SOME OF THE CONVEYANCE PIPES ON THE BRECK SITE TO DISCHARGE INTO THE DETENTION POND THAT WE'RE DOING FOR BRAC AND FOR US TO MITIGATE OUR INCREASED FLOOD.

THAT POND IS ALSO THE, UH, DIRT ABOVE THE STATIC BOARD SERVICES OFTEN CAN BE USED TO MITIGATE A MINOR AMOUNT OF FLOODPLAIN MITIGATION THAT WE HAVE, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, A PORTION OF OUR SITE, ISN'T A SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA, BUT IT IS LESS THAN ONE FOOT BELOW THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA, VERY MINIMAL, UH, THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE, WE ADHERE TO THE REGULATIONS.

QUITE FRANKLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THESE REGULATIONS ARE DOING, OR ARE YOU PROVING SITUATIONS? IT'S FLOODING HAS OCCURRED A LOT BECAUSE OF OLDER DEVELOPMENTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE REGULATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OF MR. ALLAN'S, UH, PROPERTY, AS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, DRAINAGE THAT IS COMING IN OUR DIRECTION.

AND I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE NEAR THE DOG PARK OF BRETT DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OFFSITE DRAINAGE.

SO THEIR PIPES WERE UNDERSIZED FOR THE CURRENT FLOW CONDITIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE DOING SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING THAT WILL, THAT WILL ACTUALLY MITIGATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE ALUMS ARE HAVING WITH THAT SAID, UH, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

UM, AND WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT TO APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST TO BE APPROVED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MEMBERS, AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND BEFORE REQUESTING ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I LIKE TO ASK, UH, DIRECTOR HOKUM, IF HE'D BE SO KIND AS TO COMMENT ON, UH, ANY INFORMATION OR COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM BRETT.

I KNOW THE APPLICANTS MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DIALOGUE WITH THEM AND COME TO SOME UNDERSTANDINGS AND SOME AGREEMENTS AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE WITH THEIR PROJECT IN ORDER TO MITIGATE, UH, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE CONCERNS OR WHATNOT.

COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT? CERTAINLY THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT WE DON'T SEE ALL THE TIME, BUT THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE BARK ASSOCIATION.

THEY, UM, BRECK WAS NOTIFIED OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ON MAY 10TH.

THEY HAVE SINCE SET UP SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE APPLICANT AND WITH THE, UH, CITY PARISH DEPARTMENTS TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN, UM, BRICK AND THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, BOTH, UH, BOTH ON BREAK PROPERTY AND ON THE SITE THAT THEY REQUESTED.

THOSE WERE AGREED BY THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER AND, UH, THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT HAVE BOTH CERTIFIED THIS, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT MEETING, ALL CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER BANKS, UM, FABRIC, THE WHOLE COM I, I UNDERSTOOD ALL THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN BRECK AND THE DEVELOPER.

UM, THE ENGINEER, I BELIEVE ALLUDED TO A KIND OF CEA.

IS THERE A CA ARE, IS THERE A NEED, UM, FOR CA TO ENSURE THAT OVER TIME THAT WHATEVER ARRANGEMENTS ARE, UM, ARE AGREED UPON THAT THEY WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME PARIS ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS REVIEWED THE DOCUMENT.

WE HAVE, UH, ADDED IT TO THE PUBLIC FILE.

SO IT IS PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.

AND, UH, IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE TO MENTION THAT AS PART OF ANY, UH, ANY RECOMMENDATION OR MOTION.

SO IT WILL BE A FORMAL CA

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THANK YOU, MR. ADDISON.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I HEARD ONE OF THE WAS FROM THE RESIDENTS.

THE, ONE OF THE, UM, OF THE PROPOSAL CAN INDICATE THAT THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE FORMER SUPERINTENDENT, MR. EUGENE YOUNG, THAT WAS VERY COMMITMENT TO REMAIN THIS PROPERTY'S RULE.

UH, IS THERE EITHER HE COME BACK TO THE MIC SO HE CAN GIVE CLARITY TO THAT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR WHOEVER WAS WORKING TO CA HAVE LOOKED INTO, BUT THEN HEARING ABOUT ADDRESS THAT ASPECT? IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS, THAT THE COVENANTS OR THE ACCESS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BRICK AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WERE, UH, TREATED AS, AS DEED RESTRICTIONS, PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS BETWEEN BOTH PARTIES.

UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE PARISH ATTORNEY HAS, HAS REVIEWED THAT DOCUMENT.

UM, BUT MAYBE THE APP CAN, CAN PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL, WELL, MAYBE THE APP CAN COME BACK TO THE MARK.

THEN HERE'S WHAT MY CONCERN WOULD BE IS THAT IF WE ENTERED THE CA TODAY IN 25 YEARS FROM WHEN I JUST WANT TO GO AGAINST THAT, THEN THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED WITH MR. YOUNG, WHO DID IT 35, 40 YEARS AGO.

WE CAN'T JUST CHANGE IT BASED ON TIME.

IF WE MADE A COMMITMENT, IF THE GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE YOU MISS A YOUNG REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT IN HIS CAPACITY.

SO WE CAN'T JUST NOW SAY WE'RE GONNA GET A NEW CA AND WE DISHONOR THE ONE THAT WE HAD BEFORE.

AND WE CANNOT SAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE A PRIVATE ENDEAVOR OF AGREEING BETWEEN TWO PART PRIVATE PARTIES.

THIS IS A GROUP IN BETWEEN MR. YOUNG, WHO REPRESENTED THE PUBLIC.

AND SO NOW WE COME BACK HERE AS LATE AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA DO A NEW ONE AND JUST DISREGARD WHAT WE SAID WE WOULDN'T DO BACK THEN.

THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE BECAUSE HOW WE LOOK AT IT.

AND I LIKE TO HELP AFRICAN DRESS THAT DRESS, BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE THE NEW CA JUST AS INVALID IN THE FUTURE WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND OKAY.

WHO SLIMES THAT IF THE APPLICANT COULD CALL IT.

SO THE AGREEMENT THEY'RE REFERRING TO WAS, UH, ACTUALLY SPECIFIED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, OR THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE ANYTHING ELSE.

UM, THE, MY TITLE ATTORNEY AND THE OTHER ATTORNEYS HAVE GONE OVER IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER IT, BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE.

IF THE, IF THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MR. YOUNG AND THE BRET COMMISSION HAVE A LONGEST BAN, IT NEEDS TO BE HONORED.

IN MY OPINION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS COMMISSION MIGHT DO, BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS, IS THAT JUST BE KEVIN HAVING A NEW PARISH ATTORNEY, WE'LL GET THAT.

WE GOT A NEW REPRESENTATIVE.

IF WE HAVE SUCH DOCUMENTS ON THE BOOKS, IT IS NOT TO BE HANDLED.

AS I WOULD SEE AS A PRIVATE BETWEEN TEMPLATE IS GOING TO PRIVATE PROPERTY BECAUSE MR. YOUNG, THE TITLE ATTORNEY, THEY GO OVER IT.

AND IT WAS, UH, THE ACTUAL SPECIFICATION WAS, THEY DIDN'T WANT A BIG COMMERCIAL THING.

SO THEY LIMITED IT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR AT THE TIME B ONE OFFICE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I HADN'T SEEN IT.

NO, HAVE I LOOKED AT IT? I HEARD IT FROM WHAT A PUBLIC PERSON MADE A COMMENT ABOUT.

AND IF SOMEONE CAN ADDRESS MY CONCERN, WHETHER GOD IS AND WHETHER OR NOT OTHER THAN LOOKED INTO IT.

AND IN FACT, MR. POLO, WHOEVER IT IS, WHO DOES THAT FOR ON OUR BEHALF, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING AND THAT'S TO HIS DEFENSE AND STAND AS THE APPLICANT AND SAY THAT I WANT US TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THE PRECEDENT OF THIS GOVERNMENT, NOT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WITH THIS PROPERTY.

IF WE MAKE AN AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE, THE CITY OF LOON, BATON ROUGE AND THE STATE OF LOUISIANA, WE HONOR THAT AGREEMENT.

WE CAN CHANGE IT, BUT MR. YOUNG REPRESENTED THE PEOPLE.

AND THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.

AND I DON'T THINK I'LL BE INVALID.

I'M NOT WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPINION OF IT.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

NOW, UH, WE ARE STAYING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT TO WRITE THE HOGAN AND TO CONFIRM THAT APPLICANT STATEMENT THAT THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS, IT'S DEFINITELY A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THE ZONING AND THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OR, BUT IT'S SINGLE FAMILY ZONING AND SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DEFER THE ITEM.

HOW LONG WERE YOU, WERE YOU, UH, REQUESTING TO DEFER THE ITEM? COMMISSIONER ADDISON IN LIGHT OF HIM? MR. HOGAN IS SAYING IF IT MEETS THE SAME CRITERIA AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION BEFORE, IF SOMEONE IN THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REPRESENTS THIS BODY AND REFERENCES, BREAKFAST, LOOKED AT ALL OF THAT AND IT MEETS WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO MEET.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT STATEMENT THAN DISAVOWAL.

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AND WHAT MR. YOUNG REQUESTED IN WHAT TO BREAK AUTHORITY COULD REQUEST IT.

THAT WAS THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING IF HE SAYS THAT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA AND THEY HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND EVERYBODY CAN SAY IT MEETS THAT, THEN WE HAVE NO ISSUE AND BRICK HAS, UH, REVIEWED AND THEY HAVE THEIR IN-HOUSE COUNSEL AS WELL.

BUT THEY DIDN'T JUST, JUST GIVING YOU INFORMATION, NOT THE YOU'RE IN THE RECOGNITION.

I CURRENTLY HAVE NOT BEEN A PV FOR YOU GUYS AT ALL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR ENDEAVOR THOUGH, BUT IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.

SO THE ATTENTION OF THE HEAD OF ENGINEERING.

I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH DEFERRING IT.

I MEAN, AGAIN, IF EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD WITH THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMED TO BE, THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE ONBOARDED.

I WAS JUST COMMENTING ON WHAT A COMMENT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HAD RAISED.

AND THAT WOULD BE A VALID RESIDENTIAL RATE QUESTION TO BE RAISED.

AND IF I CAN'T GET AN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION, THEN I KISSED THE FIRST ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I'M NOT HERE TO DIFFER BASED ON THE IDEA.

JUST WANT TO DEFER IT.

IF EVERYBODY HAS LOOKED INTO IT, THERE SHOULD BE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WHEN AFFIRMATIVELY ANSWERED THE QUESTION, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S THE PARISH ATTORNEY, I'LL CAVE IS THE BRECK ATTORNEY.

MAYBE HE'S JUST DOUBLE PAY AND SAY, WE REVIEWED THAT.

AND WE LOOKED INTO THAT, MAYBE THE DIRECTOR, SHE CALLED US ON THE PHONE AND SAY, WE'D DONE THAT MR. ADDISON, BUT FOR NO ONE TO DO THAT AND JUST SAY, OH YEAH, THAT'S HOW IT IS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE PARISH ATTORNEY, UH, ISN'T HERE.

SO TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE LOOKING TO DEFER FOR HOW LONG COMMISSIONER HARRISON, THE PRANK WOULD HAVE 60 DAY PROTOCOL, 30 DAYS IN ORDER FOR ME.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DEFER THIS ITEM FOR 30 DAYS.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS, I BELIEVE THERE IS A COMMENT FROM VICE CHAIRMAN.

I WANTED TO RAISE A, A DIFFERENT QUESTION.

UM, UH, MARIE, CAN YOU COME BACK TO THE PODIUM PLEASE, SIR, ON THIS SITE, HOW MUCH OF, HOW MUCH OF YOUR DETENTION OR RETENTION IS ACTUALLY ON THE SITE ITSELF? NONE OF IT'S ON OUR SITE.

SO IT'S ALL GOING TO BE GIVEN.

IT'S ALL GOING TO BE GIVEN OVER TO BRECK.

NOW I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS, COMMISSIONER BANKS, AND I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DISAGREEMENT HERE, UH, EARLIER ON A CASE.

BUT IN, IN, IN THIS CASE, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH HER.

UH, TYPICALLY WE REQUIRE A, UM, YOU KNOW, A SUBDIVISION, WHICH SHE IS GOING TO NEED THIS TYPE OF STORM WATER RUNOFF TO TENSION OR RETENTION, UH, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SUBDIVISION SHOULD TAKE CARE OF.

AND COMMISSIONER BANKS POINTED OUT THAT IT OFTENTIMES IT IS NOT WELL-MAINTAINED.

WE DO HAVE FUNCTIONS IN OUR UDC FOR ENFORCEMENT.

UM, BUT THE THING IS IS THAT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL ARE PUTTING ALL THIS ON Y'ALL ARE PUTTING ALL THIS ON THE PUBLIC AND I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT'S GOING TO SET A VERY BAD GRASS.

30 DAY DEFERRAL TO AT LEAST GET SOME DIALOGUE WOULD BE VERY NICE.

LET ME ADDRESS THAT.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS ACTUALLY OFFERED BY BRETT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO, UH, THE DEVELOPERS TO, UH, CREATE BUFFERS ALONG THE BRECK PART AND KEEP THOSE, UH, SKEW SOME OF THE TREES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED TO DO DETENTION ON OUR SITE AS A BUFFER IN THE BRECK PARK, AND ALSO DO SOME OTHER THINGS WITH BRETT.

SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY A, AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, OFFERED UP IN AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND BRETT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO ACTUALLY HAVING A CLEAR-CUT FOR DETENTION POND.

SO IT WASN'T JUST THROWING IT UP ON THE PUBLIC.

IT WAS, THERE WAS DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO THAT, AND IT SOUNDED LIKE A, A REASONABLE, UM, UH, SOLUTION TO SATISFY BOTH WHAT, WHAT BREXIT GOALS WERE AND WHAT THE DEVELOPER'S GOALS WERE FOR THE PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AGAIN, TO REITERATE THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT? MY, MY, YOU KNOW, I STOOD HERE AND SAID EARLIER, SAT HERE, SAID EARLIER BED, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THE LAW AND WHAT'S IN THE LAW, YOU KNOW, SAYS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DETAIN AND RETAIN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE WITH WHAT'S IN THE FLOOD ZONE.

I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THIS SETS A PRECEDENT THAT OKAY, IF YOU'RE CLOSE TO A REC PARK OR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT YOU CAN GET, UH, YOU CAN PUT IT ON THEM.

AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S SOME CONCERN HERE WITH THE, UH, THE, UH, THE COVENANTS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED EARLIER.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMISSIONER ADDISON SAID, UH, HAPPENED TO AGREE WITH IT.

I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

SO, UM, MY TAKE IS I'M VERY HESITANT TO APPROVE THIS, I THINK RIGHT NOW, A

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SO, UH, I'M GOING TO SECOND, UH, OH, I'M GOING TO THIRD, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON'S, UH, UH, REQUEST FOR DEFERRAL COMMISSIONER HILL.

YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT.

I, I LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

UM, IF THE ENGINEER COULD, COULD STAY PLEASE.

UM, BUT BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY, UM, PLANT THAT I HAVE, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, HOW YOU'RE PROPOSING YOUR DRAINAGE IS GOING TO FLOW IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

BASICALLY THE MIDDLE OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS AT A 40 FOOT ELEVATION AND EVERYTHING DRAINS FROM THE MIDDLE OUTWARD.

SO YOU HAVE HALF OF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO DRAIN TOWARD THE BRICK, UM, POND.

AND THE OTHER HALF LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA DRAIN OUT TO, UM, SOUTH VERY SOUTH, UH, HEROINE FERRIES ROAD.

AND I DON'T, AND I DON'T REALLY SEE A GOOD, UM, PLAN HERE FOR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MANAGE STORM WATER AND STORM WATER RUNOFF.

UH, BFE IN THIS AREA, IT LOOKS TO BE ABOUT 38 FOOT.

UH, SO I, I AM REALLY CONCERNED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD DRAINAGE PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, UH, I COULD WRAP MY HEAD AROUND SUPPORTING THIS PLAN, UH, THE WAY IT IS NOW, WITHOUT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR, OR DRAINAGE, WHICH THE COMMISSION, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED THIS.

WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THEM.

WE'VE GONE OVER THE COMMENTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, UH, REGARDING DRAINAGE.

I WILL HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF IT.

THERE IS SOME DRAINAGE THAT WILL GO TOWARD HAIRSPRAY ROAD, WHERE WE'RE MAKING THAT LESS SO THAT WE'RE NOT IMPEDING ON THE DRAINAGE ON HAIRSPRAY ROAD AND THEN DETAINING IN THE PROPOSED DETENTION POND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT, UH, AND, UH, AND SO THE DRAINAGE PLAN, I THINK, IN GLOBAL IS, IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH DETAILED DESIGN, AND AS IT STATED BY THE, UH, SUBDIVISION ENGINEER IN A MEETING WITH US, THIS ISN'T THE LAST GO ROUND.

WE HAVE TO GO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH CONSTRUCTION PLAN, WHICH IS DETAILED, VERY DETAILED DESIGN CRITERIA THAT THEN HAS TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE D THE SUBDIVISION OFFICE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK FROM A CONCEPT PLAN, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE INPUT FROM OUR DRAINAGE STUDY PLAN.

WE HAVE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED THE, THE DRAINAGE ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND CAN I GO BACK INTO DRESS SOMETHING MR. GROUT ASS? SURE.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

MR. BROWN.

WELL, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION YOU, I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU MENTIONED, UH, KIND OF DETENTION AND FLOOD PLAIN MITIGATION IN THE SAME SENTENCE, UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU, IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE I THINK WITH RESPECT TO FLOOD PLAIN MIDDLEFIELD MITIGATION, WHERE WE'RE WELL WITHIN THE ORDINANCE ON THAT, THAT'S FINE.

STORM WATER, STORM WATER.

FULL THE DESIGN CRITERIA THAT WE HAD BEFORE IS IN THE ARGUMENT.

UM, THE, UM, THE, THE ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW FOR A SUBDIVISION TO FOREGO DETENTION IF CERTAIN CRITERIA ARE MET.

AND SOME OF THAT CRITERIA IS, IS THE DRAINAGE AND THE OFFSITE IMPRO, UH, DRAINAGE IN THE OFFSITE AREAS WAS DESIGNED FOR THE, UH, THE STORM THAT YOU'RE, UH, PUTTING IN THERE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD MR. GROWL WAS THAT THE STORM WATER COLLECTION FOR THE PROPERTY AS IT IS CURRENTLY EXISTS, WAS NOT ADDED.

THEY DID NOT ADEQUATELY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OFFSITE DRAINAGE.

SO THE DRAINAGE OWN BREXIT POVERTY IS ACTUALLY INADEQUATE FOR THE CURRENT SITUATIONS THAT THE ALLENS AND AS ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE EXPRESSED, WE HAVE, THAT WAS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION WITH BRECK WAS HOW COULD WE IMPROVE THAT AND IMPROVE IT FOR THE OVERALL AREA? AND WHAT WAS AGREED UPON WAS A TUNING TO ENLARGE THEIR EXISTING POND.

DO YOU GIVE THEM AN AMENITY THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, UH, AND ENJOYABLE BY THE PUBLIC AND ALSO, UH, UH, SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT, THAT THEIR DRAINAGE WAS INADEQUATE FOR THE CURRENT SITUATION, AND THEN MAKE IT, UM, UH, FEASIBLE FOR OUR SITUATION.

SO THE DETENTION POND THAT WE, THAT INTEGRATING WITH BRENT, WE HAVE DESIGNED ON THEIR PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE OPEN FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO ENJOY, LIKE THEY'RE ENJOYING THE EXISTING POND THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO ANY WAY THAT IT FUNCTIONS PROPERLY AND IT'S GOING TO FUNCTION PROPERLY FOR

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SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, MR. OKAY.

YES, YES, IT DOES.

BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK, UH, RACHEL LAMBERT, UH, WHO IS, UH, HEAD OF SUBDIVISION AND WEARS QUITE NUMBER OF OTHER HATS TO KIND OF GIVE SOME COMMENT ON THAT.

I COULD VERY WELL BE WRONG.

I, YOU KNOW, I, PLEASE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I AM, WHICH PORTION WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO COMMENT ON SPECIFIC? WELL, YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST IF I MAY ANSWER THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MS. LAMBERT HAS ALREADY WEIGHED IN ON THIS IN AS MUCH AS SHE HAS.

UH, SHE HAS, UH, SENT HER RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR PRELIMINARY PLAN.

I UNDERSTAND.

UM, THE, THE PART ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD BE ALLOWING WATER RUNOFF INTO BASICALLY DUE TO USE PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR THIS, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN AS TO WHETHER WE START OR WHETHER WE MAY EVEN SET A PRECEDENT, WHAT COMMISSIONER BANKS SAID.

I DO AGREE WITH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS, YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THE ORDINANCE IS NOT SPECIFIC AND IN NOT ALLOWING IT, I FEEL LIKE HIM HAVING A DETENTION POND ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC OR PRIVATE DOES MEET THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE.

UM, HE'S DEMONSTRATED CONCEPTUALLY THAT HE IS GOING TO MEET HER, THE OUTFALL OF THE POND ITSELF.

UM, I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S LEGAL TO DO THAT ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.

UM, HE DOES HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN HIS DRAINAGE STUDY.

UM, CONCEPTUALLY, I FEEL LIKE HE IS MEETING THE ORDINANCE AS FAR AS NOT INCREASING RUNOFF FROM THE DEVELOPED AREA.

UM, I THINK HIS SYNOPSIS OF THE OFFSITE AREA BEING DESIGNED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A LITTLE NOT CORRECT OR INCORRECT.

UM, I DID GET THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE STORMWATER AND THE, THE DESIGN FOR THE BRECK PROPERTY, CROSS DRAINS AND WHATNOT.

UM, IT DIDN'T SEEM EXTREMELY UNDER SIZE, BUT IT DEFINITELY WASN'T DESIGNED FOR THE FULLY DEVELOPED CONDITION NEXT DOOR.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT IT WAS UNDER DESIGNED FOR THE UNDEVELOPED CONDITION.

UM, I THINK HE OVERESTIMATED THE UNDEVELOPED CONDITION IN HIS DRAINAGE IMPACT STUDY.

I SAID THAT IN ONE OF MY COMMENTS, UM, SO HE IS BASICALLY DESIGNING THE DOWNSTREAM AREA TO HANDLE THE RUNOFF FOR THIS DEVELOPER.

WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IN THE D IN THE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE FINAL, THROUGH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT CAN BE HANDLED? I MEAN, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WHY I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT MEETS THE SPIRIT OF THAT WAIVER, WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE DOWNSTREAM, YOU KNOW, OR THE SURROUNDING, UM, STORMWATER IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE IT WASN'T, HE'S DESIGNING IT FOR IT.

UM, BUT I, I KNOW, I KNOW I'M PUTTING SERIOUSLY ON THE SPOT HERE.

UH, MY, MY CONCERN IS, AGAIN, WE ARE, WE ARE USING PUBLIC PROPERTY TO DEAL WITH A, A PROBLEM THAT IS, AND COMMISSIONER BANKS IS RIGHT.

IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

AND THERE'S NO TWO WAYS ABOUT THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT THOUGH, ON THE MITIGATION, THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD THAT HE WAS GOING TO MITIGATE ON THAT SITE.

SO HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BRECK DEDICATE THAT AS A MITIGATION, UH, SERVITUDE FOR, YOU KNOW, PERPETUALLY SO THAT IT COULD NOT BE FILLED IN, OR, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE IN THE PROCESS OF NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF BRETT HAS AGREED TO THAT STIPULATION BECAUSE THAT IS IN THE UDC.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH UNLESS THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO ASK, PLEASE, DON'T LEAVE.

I'M SAYING I REALLY DIDN'T FINISH MY, UH, MY ORIGINAL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, SO I LIKE TO, BUT NO, IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT.

IT WAS THAT ENGINEER THAT DID THAT.

UM, AND, AND I PROBABLY WOULD LIKE HIM TO COME BACK TO THE MIC IF HE DOESN'T MIND.

SO, SO WHY HE'S COMING UP? UM, MS. LAMBERT, THIS IS A CONCERN I HAVE, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT HERE BEST INVEST AT NOTHING FOR THE MOST PART IN, UM, MITIGATION.

CREDITS OR, OR, OR, UH, ATTEMPTED TO MITIGATE THE STORM WATER RUNOFF FROM THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROPER ON THE DEVELOPER, ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE ITSELF.

AND TYPICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE.

AND TYPICALLY THAT'S WHAT IS REQUIRED.

WHAT THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO, BUT I THINK WE ALL WOULD AGREE THAT THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF WHAT'S IN THE UDC DOESN'T SEEM TO BE BEING FOLLOWED HERE WITH THIS APPROACH.

AND, AND, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE MIGHT NOT BE EXPLICIT LANGUAGE INTO UDC THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT DO

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UM, AND IF BRETT HAD NOT AGREED TO THIS, I PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE RECOMMENDING A RIGHT.

SO INDEPENDENT OF AN AGREEMENT WITH BRAG.

I STILL HAVE THE VOICE OF CONCERN THAT SAYS I DON'T, I AM NOT ALIGNED WITH THEIR APPROACH.

THAT'S BEING TAKEN HERE.

I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.

I THINK IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE, THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE UDC.

AND I THINK IT SETS UP PRECEDENT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SAY IT IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.

I AM ALSO CONCERNED BASED ON, UH, THE CONTOURS THAT I SEE ON THE PRELIMINARY THAT HOW THEY'VE STRUCTURED, AT LEAST PULLING THEM GRANARY, STRUGGLED, THEIR DRAINAGE CONCEPT HERE IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR US.

WE'RE GOING TO PUSH TOO MUCH WATER ONTO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM INCREASE IT WHEN IT COMES TO CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL.

BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

WE WOULD TRY TO BE SURE THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN HOW THEY COME FORWARD WITH THEIR FINAL PLANS.

BUT, UH, I AM CONCERNED HERE THAT THIS WOULD SIGNAL THAT THERE'S REALLY NO SPIRIT NOR INTENT TO GET THAT EXACTLY.

AND THEY'RE RELYING TOO MUCH ON BRECK PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOT REALLY TIED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO, TO, TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

I'D SAY THAT'S THE ONLY CAVEAT HERE.

THEY ARE DETAINING, BUT NOT ON THE PROJECT SITE AND A GRAY AREA, IF YOU WOULD SAY SO.

SO FOR THE, FOR THE ENGINEER, I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO, TO REALLY, UM, PYRMONT COMMENTS AND IN, AND, AND REALLY THINK ABOUT, UH, WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE AND HOW YOU'RE DOING IT.

UH, AND, AND UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT I HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR APPROACH.

NO, I HEAR YOU.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF ALREADY.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE THREE.

UM, BUT, UH, AND, AND MS. LAMBERT, I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE THERE WHEN I SAID ABOUT YOUR APPROVAL.

UH, BUT, BUT THE FACT IS, IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE'VE MET IN THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE.

UH, WE'VE MET WITH BRETT, DAVE AGREED.

WE'RE DOING SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THEM, AS WELL AS FOR US GRANTED IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S A, A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR US AND FOR BRECK WE'RE DOING, AND, AND, AND FOR THE OFFSITE DRAINAGE, THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE ALAN'S PROPERTY, THAT'S GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION AS WELL.

SO, IN, IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE, WE MET THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, IN THAT, BEFORE IT LEAVES THE SITE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT IS BEING DETAINED TO THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT TENURE STOLEN, AND THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM.

I LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE DENIED THIS REQUEST.

SO COMMISSIONER ISLANDER.

THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THIS REQUEST.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? OKAY.

SO I'VE BEEN VERY HESITANT WITH ALL THESE SAME CONCERNS, UH, WITH THE DEFERRAL, BUT I HAVE ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE ZERO LOT LINE EVEN FITS IN THE AREA PERSONALLY.

SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, LOT OF PIECES REGARDING THE FLOODING.

I DON'T THINK IT FITS THE AREA.

I JUST, I I'M A SECOND AT, UH, THE DENIAL.

ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, UH, WAIVED THOSE RULES AND DONE A 30 DAY DEFERRAL OR MADE A MOTION FOR A 30 DAY DEFERRALS.

THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER HILL TO DENY THIS ITEM.

THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ELLENDER.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS, COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER BANKS, UH, AS A COMMENT AND THEN A VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT WILL FOLLOW HER.

SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, TO, UM, DIRECTOR, WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME BREAK? I MEAN, THE CON THAT WE COULD, UH, DIFFER, ER, SO THE RULES AND PROCEDURES REQUIRE A 60 DAY DEFERRAL ON PLANNING ITEMS AND SUBDIVISION IS, UH, IS A PLANNING ON, UM, THIS IS THE COMPANION CASE WITH THE REZONING AND A SUBDIVISION, UM, ON OTHER

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SO THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THE APPLICANT.

AGREED TO THAT.

UM, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK UP PLEASE? YES, SIR.

SO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS, UM, A DENIAL OR POSSIBLY A 60 DAY DEFERRAL.

UM, WHAT I AM, THESE ARE MY CONCERNS AND EITHER ONE OF THOSE, UM, WHERE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD WORK FOR ME, NUMBER ONE, I REALLY WOULD LIKE THIS TO GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION, UH, THE BRICK COMMISSION, UM, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE SOMETHING, UM, AN AGREEMENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS AT STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL.

UM, I DO AGREE WITH THE CONCERNS THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER ADDISON BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE PREVIOUS, UH, CEA.

AND IS IT THAT EASY TO JUST DISREGARD, UH, ONE CA FOR ANOTHER, UH, I AM.

UM, AND, AND IF THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE NOT HAVING OUR PARISH ATTORNEY HERE TO ADVISE US AND AT LEAST BE ABLE TO GIVE THE COMMISSION A COPY OF, UM, THE PREVIOUS CE A WITH BRECK AND THE ONE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

AND LASTLY, IF THIS, UH, I I'M THINKING FROM AN ETHICAL POINT OF VIEW, UM, CAN A PRIVATE ENTITY INTO, TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT THAT ACTUALLY SOLELY, UM, BENEFITS A PRIVATE DEVELOPER CAN A PUBLIC ENTITY INTO AN AGREEMENT REGARDLESS AS TO THE IMPROVEMENT, UM, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO DO A CHARITABLE OR BENEVOLENT, UM, UM, DONATION YOU'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THERE'S A MUTUAL BENEFIT.

AND SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY OF JUSTICE, JUST LIKE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND BECAUSE YOU'RE SO DEPENDENT ON THIS BREAK AGREEMENT, WHAT IF AT SOME POINT IT'S DETERMINED BY BRETT THAT IT'S CAUSING MORE PROBLEMS ON THEIR SIDE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN DECIDE THAT THEY NO LONGER WANT TO PLAY IN HIS PLAY ON HIS PLAYGROUND AND YOU ARE KIND OF STUCK WITH WHERE DO I GO? SO IN, IN REGARDS TO WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER HERE, UM, BROUGHT UP, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.

I THINK THE UDC IS NOT WRITTEN SO THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE ADDITIONAL OUTLETS, BUT THAT THERE ARE, UM, THERE'S MITIGATION WITHIN THE EXISTENCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS POSE A PROBLEM.

UM, I, I WOULD DEF I MEAN, AND, AND IT'S ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A DENIAL.

HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT YOU HAVE PUT, UH, AS A DEVELOPER, GOOD FAITH EFFORT AND TRYING TO WORK ALL THESE, UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF WERE, UH, OUT.

SO IF 60 DAYS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TIME, ALLOW THIS TO GO BEFORE THE BRICK COMMISSION, UM, THEN I AM ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO THAT.

AND, BUT IT IS, UH, IT IS, UM, PREDICATED ON WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU SEE US DOING, GOING FORTH.

AND, UM, SO I DO NEED TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER.

ADDED TO THAT, THAT AGENDA.

MA'AM.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DO A 30 DAY TO FARRO BECAUSE WE MET WITH BRECK ON THIS, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TYING INTO THEIR DRAINAGE.

WE DID HAVE OUR DETENTION ON OUR PROPERTY AND ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS TO DO IT ON THEIRS BECAUSE THEY KIND OF HAVE AN ISSUE.

I UNDERSTOOD THAT I'M SAYING, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE THEM TO IT TO GO BEFORE THE ROUTER ROSSY.

DO YOU KNOW IF, IS THIS WHERE, WHAT WOULD BE THE EARLIEST, THIS MAY BE ABLE TO GO BEFORE THE BREAD COMMISSION? AND IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING OUR COMMISSIONER? HOW WOULD THAT WORK? IT'S DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING I'D BRING UP AND I'M NOT SURE, I THINK, UH, WE MEET LATER THIS WEEK, SO I DOUBT SERIOUSLY THAT IT WOULD BE

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SO THAT MEANS IT WILL BE A MONTH OUTWARD.

SO WHAT WE NEED 30 OR 60, I HAVE TO GET WITH, UH, BREXIT LEGAL TO SEE.

SO SIR, I THINK THE ISSUE IS, AND, UM, AND AGAIN, REMEMBER YOUR TWO CHOICES HERE.

I THINK IT'S LEADING TOWARDS IT BEING DENIED OR, UM, THE SIX FEET.

AND THAT THE ISSUE IS NOT THAT YOU HAVE NOT, AS I INDICATED YOU'VE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AS FAR AS YOU KNEW TO DO SO WITH BRECK, HOWEVER, THEY'RE MEETING THIS WEEK, THEY WANT ME AGAIN TO NEXT WEEK.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, WE'RE JUST NOT SURE IF THAT'S WITHIN THE TIMELINE TO, FOR 30 DAYS.

AND SO, UM, I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M LEADING TOWARDS 60 DAYS, BUT AGAIN, UM, SO YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S TIME TO GET ON THE COMMISSION, THE BRECK COMMISSION AGENDA.

YES MA'AM.

SO, UM, I'M GOOD WITH 60, I'D RATHER 30.

WE, WE DEFERRED A FEW TIMES TO FURTHER TALK WITH BRETT.

UM, SO YES, 60 DAY DIFFERENCE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DIFFERENT, UH, MOTIONS, BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO GO FOR 60 THERE'S.

THERE'S CURRENTLY A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THIS ITEM FROM COMMISSIONER HILL.

IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER L TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A 60 DAY DEFERRAL.

IS THAT THE PREMISE? I THINK WE BOTH HAVE TO, WE FIRST HAVE TO HEAR THIS STUFF, THE TWO MOTION, BUT I THINK VICE-CHAIRMAN, GOD HAS A QUICK COMMENT, A REAL QUICK FINE.

I DON'T THINK IT IS ON, UM, I'M LEANING RIGHT NOW TOWARD A DEFERRAL.

UH, EVEN THOUGH I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

UM, I THINK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED.

I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, UH, MS. STEINBERG BROUGHT UP, UM, I THINK WITH SOME DIALOGUE CAN BE HANDLED POSSIBLY.

I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN OF THAT, BUT I THINK AT LEAST THE CHANCE THAT WE ENGAGE BRETT, POTENTIALLY EVEN NEXT MONTH OR TWO MONTHS, WHEN WE DO A DEFERRAL THAT WE HAVE BRECK HERE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND MAYBE THEIR LEGAL TEAM CAN HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL, UH, WITH A COUNCILMAN, I'M SORRY, WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS AND WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

UM, SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, MOTION ON THE FLORIDA DENIED.

SECOND MOTION IS SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO DENYING THE, THE MOTION? THERE IS A, THERE'S AN OBJECTION.

UH, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE, UH, DIRECTOR HOKUM ON THE SUBSTANCE USE EMOTIONAL BENIGN.

HE DENIED BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. KEVIN WAS NO VICE CHAIRMAN.

MR. BANKS, MR. ELLENDER.

THERE'S A BOARD OF THREE VOTES.

BALES WERE LACK OF AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

PARTLY IT WOULD GO AS A DENIAL UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION ON, ARE WE INTERESTED IN RECONSIDERING THE DEFERRAL AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS ANYONE INTERESTED IN INTRODUCING THAT MOTION? AYE.

I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD CHANGE THE VOTE.

YOU CAN READ THIS.

IF THERE'S NOT SUFFICIENT INTEREST IN THE STUBS TO MOTION, IT ONLY GOT FOUR VOTES TO DENY, BUT FAILS FOR LACK OF A PERMANENT VOTE.

ORIGINAL MOTION ON THE, ON THE FLOOR WAS EAT A BURGER FOR 30 DAYS.

UH, THAT MOTION WAS MADE BY BONES, ADDISON SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DON, A BANK ROLL CALLED MOTION ON THE BURR, THE ITEM FOR 30 DAYS.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS.

VICE CHAIRMAN GROUND.

COMMISSIONER ELEANOR, NO COMMISSIONER HILL.

MR. ADDISON, NO COMMISSIONER BANKS.

NO.

MR. STERLING, NO MOTION FAILED.

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COULD YOU USE YOUR MIC, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS.

I SEE.

I REALLY DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS DEVELOPER TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE HIM.

UM, IT MAY COME TO THE SAME, BUT I THINK ALSO FOR THE INTEREST, I THINK, AND I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD REASON, BUT I'M CURIOUS TO SEE THE CA I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD JUST CHANGE ONE FOR THE OTHER.

I AM CURIOUS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT, UH, WE CAN, THERE IS A SUCH THING AS BEING ABLE TO USE THIS PUBLIC, UM, LAND FOR THE PURPOSE OF MITIGATING, UM, FOR A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

SO FOR ME, I KNOW CURIOUS CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL GIVE IT A NEW LIFE.

BUT I THINK THERE, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UM, GAIN SOME INFORMATION THAT WILL LEAD TO POSSIBLY SOME CHANGES.

UM, I THEN, UH, UDC ARE THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT.

I, I GUESS FOR ME, I JUST WOULD LIKE US TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ROAD WITH IT AND SEE WHERE IT LEADS US.

UM, AND I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN DOING THAT.

SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE US TO RECONSIDER THE 60 DAY, UM, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON NOT TO, UM, NOT TO, UH, MAKE, MAKE, UH, PREMATURELY CLOSED SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A POTENTIAL TO LEARN FROM IF YOU WILL.

THERE IS A NEW MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DEFER THIS ITEM FOR 60 DAYS.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO RECONSIDER MR. CHAIRMAN? NO.

THE ORIGINAL SUBSTITUTE MOTION WAS TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS.

THIS IS A NEW MOTION TO DEFER FOR 60 DAYS, BUT ITEM DIED AND WE NEED TO, YEAH, WE VOTED TWO MOTIONS AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE AS A I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST ADDRESS THE CONCERN.

MAYBE WE SEEM TO HAVE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THE ITEM, THE ITEM IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

IT HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS. WE COULD FIX IT UP ALL WE WANT.

WE HAVE LEGAL ISSUES THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE HAVE CORPORATE ENDEAVOR AGREEMENTS OR AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE PARISH, GOVERNMENTS, THE BDB ADDRESS.

WE HAVE OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR STAFF COMING HERE, ALMOST TESTIFY, STUFF THAT WE GENERALLY DO BEHIND THE SCENES.

WE DON'T BRING THEM FOR THIS BODY OF DEBATE, A MISSION ISSUE LIKE THAT.

OUR TECHNICAL STAFF WE'RE DOING THAT TONIGHT.

AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

IF WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH THIS ITEM, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE IT GETS TO THIS BODY.

WE HAVE PUBLIC ENTITIES THAT STAND OUT HERE AND WANT TO HEAR THAT.

AND WE ANNOUNCED BEING A LOT OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT TECHNICAL ISSUES ON THE ITEM.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DIFFERENT WOULD HAVE DONE.

BUT AS WE HEARD THE DEBATE DURING THE BEARER PUMP MOMENT, IT GOT MORE AND MORE INTENSE OF HOW BAD THIS ITEM IS.

WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS WE HAVE THE DRAIN IS MITIGATION WAS DONE ON SITE OFF SITE, WHETHER IT'S THE PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY TO ENTER THAT KIND OF AGREEMENT, TO TAKE THE LEGAL LIABILITY AND THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF IT.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE RAISE ISSUES.

I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT.

MADE IT WORSE WHEN I WAS FOR A 60, 30 DAY DEFERRAL.

I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT BASED ON JUST A LEGAL ISSUE.

I SIT THERE ON MY COMMENTS, BUT IT GOT WORSE.

I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS ITEM IN ITS CURRENT FORMAT.

IF THEY WANT TO BRING IT BACK IN THE FUTURE, DO SOUL WORK GOT TOO DETAILED BEFORE THAT I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR A RECONSIDERATION.

I'M A VOTE OF JASON I'M VOTING AGAINST THE DEFERRAL IS A BAD ITEM.

LIKE ANYBODY ELSE, IT'S A BAD ITEM FOR ME.

AND AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION, I HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE.

MY CONSCIENCE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AFTER THINKING ABOUT THEM AND WHAT YOU SAID AND WITH THE PASSION YOU PUT INTO IT.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS TO THE FIRST ITEM FOR 60 DAYS.

THAT MOTION WAS SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRMAN.

GRANTED THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OBJECTION FROM COMMISSIONER ISLANDER.

SO WE'LL DO A FINAL ROLL CALL.

CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? THERE WAS A QUICK COMMENT BY A VICE VICE CHAIRMAN, GROUT, UM, COMMISSIONER ADDISON'S COMMENTS

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I AGREE.

SO I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY WITHDRAW MY SECOND AND AS MUCH AS I RESPECT, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS ON THIS ISSUE, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I, I AGREE A LOT OF THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEHIND THE SCENES.

THANK YOU MOTION AS WELL, BUT I SURE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

AND I BELIEVE THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 21.

FINAL MOTION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL MOTIONS.

THEN I BELIEVE THAT ITEM IS DEAD AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

[21. Case 36-21 11324 Granberry Street]

THAT'S CORRECT.

ITEM 21 CASE 36, 21 CASE 36, 21, 1 1 3 TO FOUR GRAND BRAY STREET LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF GRANBURY DRIVE NORTH OF BLANCHE ROAD, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS.

APPLICANT IS NORMAN SPARROW.

THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AWAN, AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL C2, WHERE THEY REQUESTED ZONING OF RURAL PROPOSED USE OF SAND AND GRAVEL MINING.

THE FUTURE BAYLOR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL AND THEY WROTE CASE 36, 21 1 1 3 24 GRAND STREET STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THEIR PROPOSED REQUESTS MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING.

BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS RECEIVED A PETITION WITH 22 SIGNATURES IN OPPOSITION AND 10 ADDITIONAL MESSAGES AND OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS NORMAN'S BARREL NEAR THE ANSWER, WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CORES THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? SPEAK OF CARDS IN FAVOR.

THERE ARE FOUR, THERE ARE EIGHT CARDS AND TOTAL OPPOSE FOR WHO DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK AND FOUR WHO WISHED TO.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE FIRST SPEAKER UP TO THE PODIUM.

UH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

I GUESS I SHOULD ADD SOMETHING BEFORE I CAME HERE.

UM, MY NAME IS DEBORAH TYLER AND I, EXCUSE ME, MA'AM YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC.

IF YOU GIVE A SCALE THAT GOES TO THE MIC, WE'RE HAVING SOME TROUBLE HEARING YOU.

LIKE I SAID, I WAS THE ONE THAT SENT THE EMAILS.

UM, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE, UM, THE RESIGNING AND, UM, DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DESPERATE MEASURES.

AND APPROXIMATELY ONE 30, I WAS IN THE VISUAL THAT SAID YOU ARE AN EMAIL, UM, OTHER VIDEO AS WELL AS, UM, MOVIE, BECAUSE WE, BECAUSE WE ARE JUST TIRED.

I MEAN, UM, I SUPPOSE WE JUST TIRED OF THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR LIKE THREE YEARS.

UM, WE, THE RESIDENTS OF WESTERN KINDS DO NOT WISH TO CONVERT OUR SUBDIVISION INTO A COMMERCIAL NOR INDUSTRIAL ZONE.

WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS, RAISED OUR FAMILIES AND HAVE GROWN QUITE ACCUSTOMED TO THE QUIET AND SUBTLE LINES.

WE OPPOSE NORMAN SPARROW, RUNNING COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OF THIS MAGNITUDE ON OUR RESISTANT RESIDENTIAL STREETS WITH THE CONTINUOUS TRAFFIC, THE POLLUTION AND THE NOISE.

WE HAVE TOLERATED BEING INCONVENIENCED LONG ENOUGH.

WE HAVE ENDURED DIRTY AND MUDDY ROADS, DUMP TRUCKS AND NON POTHOLES ARE BEGINNING TO FORM AS WELL AS BREAKING INCORRECT ASPHALT.

WE ARE ALSO EXPERIENCING FLOODING AND DRAINING PROBLEM SINCE 2019.

AND AFTER 2016 FLOOD, WE ARE A FLOOD ZONE NOW, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, FROM THE PETITION, WE HAVE PEOPLE, UH, THREE HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY HAD TO GO TO WORK, BUT WE OPPOSE THIS.

AND MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE HAVING SENT LETTERS IN COMPONENT, UH, OPPOSING THIS BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS, UH, IN POLLS DO NOT PROTECT US FROM THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THIS CHANGE.

UM, I HAVE A COPY HERE OF THE COMMENT THAT MR. SPELLER HAD TO.

UM, I THINK IT WAS A POND.

WE NEVER KNEW THE DEPTH OF HOW, UM, UH, DEEP IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

BUT THE THING IS, UM, I HAVE PROVED THAT, UM, THAT WE HAD, UM, PICTURES STATING THAT HE STARTED DIGGING PRIOR TO GETTING THE APARTMENT.

AND LIKE I SAID, ALSO WE HAVE PICTURES AND VIDEOS, UM, AT THOMAS ONE AND AQUA,

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IT'S JUST A LITTLE SNIPPET OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON.

AND IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE.

AND ALSO, I WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH SEAN AND BANKS ON THE EMAIL THAT SHE SENT ON LAST YEAR SAYING THAT THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

AND SHE HAD GAVE HIM TWO MONTHS OF 20, 22 MONTHS TO FINISH THIS PROJECT.

AND IT IS 13 MONTHS LATER.

AND HE'S STILL TRYING TO DIG UPON.

IT'S NOT REMOTELY CLOSE TO NO TYPE OF CREATIONAL, UM, NO POND OR ANYTHING.

AND IT HASN'T BEEN A FITTED US IN THE, UM, THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ON THE STREETS OF GRANBURY AND ALL THE COMMUNITY.

WELL, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE YEARS.

AND LIKE I SAID, I WAS THE ONE THAT SENT THE EMAIL TO YOU.

HELLO.

MY NAME IS INGRID BAKER AND I LIVE AT 1, 1, 3 17 ROW RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPERTY ON GRANBURY.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW WAS THIS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN? A COMMERCIAL DUMP TRUCKING BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THERE IS NO HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY.

FIVE TO SIX DOCTORATES, BULLDOZER EXCAVATOR STORY SAID SHIT AND A COMMERCIAL TRAILER.

IT'S AN IPHONE AND AN OPEN AREA WITH A DARK PIT.

THE GATE IS ALWAYS OPEN.

I HAD TO STOP SEVEN KIDS FROM GLENN OVER THERE, THE CONTINUOUS TRAFFIC, THE DIRTY AND MUDDY STREETS.

THERE WAS A DIRT PIT OPERATION, HAULING DIRT.

SOMETIMES ALL THAT I HAVE COUNTED UP TO 20 TRUCKS IN ONE DAY TRUCKS COMING BACK AND FORTH, BREAKING UP THE ASPHALT.

YOU'VE BEEN THE ORANGE CAR COMES OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY AND BEGGING UP INTO MY DRIVEWAY, CRACKING MY DRIVEWAY.

WE FLOODED IN 2016 WHERE A FLOOD ZONE STEVE HAD TO WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PERMITS AND INSPECTION INFORMED ME OF SEVERAL VIOLATIONS BACK THERE.

THE POND IS NOT THE STOCK PERMITTED.

IT IS SCRAPPING LARGER DEPARTMENT.

THEY SHOULD NOT BE DUMPING OF CONCRETE.

THE TRAILER IS NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE IT IS AN A1C ZONE.

THE BONDS WITH THE HORSES WAS NOT PERMITTED AND THE HORSES HAVE GOTTEN OUT SEVERAL TIMES, WENT TO MY PROPERTY AND OTHER RESIDENTS IN OUR AREA.

UM, 18 20 20.

I RECEIVED THE EMAIL FROM CASA WOMAD BANKS AND IT'S THINGS THAT DP DPW CONTACTED THE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND HE ASKED FOR TWO MONTHS, WHICH WOULD BE AUGUST 18TH TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

AND SHE AGREED ALLIE IN THE LETTER STATES THAT, UM, TO HIM THAT HE WOULD BE GRANTED, NO FEATURE EXTENSIONS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

SO I AGREE WITH HER.

IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY RESIDES.

WE HAVE TOLERATED SINCE JULY, 2019, BEFORE A PERMIT BEFORE A PERMIT WAS ISSUED.

I ASKED, WOULD YOU WANT THIS GOING ON? IF IT'S WHERE YOU LIVE? NO PEACE.

THE KIDS AND GRANDKIDS CAN'T EVEN RIDE THEIR BIKES BECAUSE OF FEAR OF BEING HIT BY A DUMP TRUCK.

AND WE DO HAVE PICTURES TO HAVE TO PROVE.

WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD FILL OUR PICTURES.

HI, MY NAME'S MARK.

I'VE LIVED ON CLARK STREET, WHICH IS A DEAD END STREET THAT MEETS WITH GRANBURY, WHICH IS ALSO A DATING THE STREET ALL AT WEST HARDING HEIGHTS, BUT WE CALL IT BROWNSVILLE.

I'VE LIVED THERE 55 YEARS.

MY PARENTS MOVED THERE AND THEY RAISED ME THERE.

I'M RAISING MY CHILD.

IT'S AN A ONE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE COVENANT SAID THAT.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

AND UNTIL WE'RE GONE, IT SHOULD STAY JUST THAT.

NOW ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS IS THAT WE'RE TOLD THAT IT'S AN, A ONE HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE WE NEVER GOT ANY NOTICE.

THERE WAS NO NOTICE ON THE PROPERTY.

THERE WAS NO NOTICE.

TARA MAILBOXES.

THERE WAS NO NOTICE ON THE STREET.

WE WERE NEVER NOTICED THAT THAT, THAT SOUNDS FISHY TO ME.

DON'T WANT TO HA WE DON'T WANT TO STEP IN HORSE MANURE.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS IF, IF THE WAY HE'S CONDUCTING HIMSELF NOW IS ANY PROOF OF THE WAY HE'S GOING TO CONDUCT HIMSELF IN THE FUTURE.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE ENTERPRISE ON OUR STREETS, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE OUR CHILDREN TRY TO RIDE THEIR BICYCLES.

ALL RIGHT, WE

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WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE OUR DITCHES PLUGGED UP BY THE MUD AND THE DIRT FROM THE DECENT TRUCKS, BRINGING DIRT IN AND BRINGING DIRT OUT.

NOW I AM OPPOSED.

I STAND WITH MY NEIGHBORS.

WE ARE ALL OPPOSED.

AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT SPEAKER.

HOW ARE YOU DOING MY NAME? IS JEREMY MORE FOR ONE OF YOUR RIGHT? I'VE BEEN 21 YEARS HERE AND DOWN THE STREET.

AND I MOVED THERE.

IT WAS SO QUIET.

SO NEIGHBOR, NO.

NOW THE STREET TO CARS CAN'T REALLY GO BEHIND, BUT WE MANAGED.

IT WAS NICE.

WE DON'T HAVE HOW WALKS, BUT NOTHING.

UH, THREE YEARS AGO, UH, THEY STARTED DOES HIM CONSTRUCTION STUFF BACK THERE.

AND I DRIVE TRUCKS EVERYWHERE.

I DROVE A DUMP TRUCK.

THEY DON'T COME OUT OF A CELL DIVISION FROM A DIRT PIT.

AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST DON'T SEEM RIGHT.

I'VE BEEN CALLING 3, 1, 1 NUMBER SO LONG.

I HEAR 3, 1, 1 IN MY SLEEP.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S HARD TO SAY YOU LIVE IN A BED AND THIS PERSON, A NORMAL SPIRAL, YOU DON'T STAY BACK THERE AND NICE HOUSE, WHATEVER YOU WANT.

YOU'LL BE IN SUNSHINE.

SO I'M TRYING TO SLOW TRUCKS DOWN, WAVING MY HANDS AND STUFF.

THEY GET FASTER, YOU KNOW, AND AIN'T, BUT FOR WHAT? THE STREET, BUT 150 YARDS, I THINK LIKE A FOOTBALL FIELD.

AND THEY COME THROUGH DOWN AND YOUR YARD TRYING TO PASS EACH OVER OR WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, REZONE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? WE STAYED BACK THERE.

I'VE BEEN THERE 21 YEARS AND THIS SAME PERSON, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THIS.

HE JUST TOLD ME TO MY FACE.

LIKE YOU TELLING ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS SHORT, LIKE STREET AND GRASS BETTER.

THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING.

YEAH, IT'S A BIG HOLE.

NOT SEEING WHY IN HIM AT NINE, ANY STEEL STUFF, THEY BRING BACK, BACK AND FORTH FOR THREE DAYS.

THEY'RE HAULING IN DUMPING.

IT JUST, MY PERSON WILL BE GETTING UP HERE.

I BETTER SIT DOWN.

I KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING? THAT'S WRONG.

THEY DON'T DO IT.

NO OTHER SIDE OF IT THAN HIM COMING OUT THE BACK OF IT.

IF THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS, THEN I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK TO THE POLIAN FULL FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

I'D JUST LIKE TO STAY HERE.

I, UM, I'VE NEVER TOLD ANYONE, HOW MANY OF YOU TALKING ABOUT ME, BUT I'VE NEVER TOLD ANYONE OFF THE STREET OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

NEVER HAVE HIM DENIED IT.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, NOT ONLY THAT, I'M NOT TRYING TO, TO REZONE A SUBDIVISION, I'M TRYING TO REZONE MINE, MY PROPERTY, MY PROPERTY HOMELY.

REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION, IT SAID IT WAS TO, UM, BUILD A POND.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WRITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR MOTIONS WITH THIS ITEM.

AND PERSONALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE COMMENTS THAT COUNSELING WOMAN ON ME, COMMISSIONER BANKS HAS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT WAS LIKE ALL MY CONSTITUENTS THAT SHED A LIGHT ON THIS.

UM, I HAVE MET WITH MR. SPARROW, UM, EVEN BEFORE THE APPLICATION, UM, THIS CURRENT APPLICATION FOR REZONING CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

AND, UM, IT ACTUALLY BEGAN WITH, UM, THE NEIGHBORS BEING, UH, CONCERNED BECAUSE OF A DIRT PIT, UM, BEING, UH, OPERATIONAL FOR ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS WITHOUT A PERMIT.

AND, UM, AFTER

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AND AT THE TIME, UM, THE NEIGHBORS STARTED EMAILING ME, AS YOU INDICATED, THEY INDICATED IN ABOUT 2020.

UM, I, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A THREE YEAR POD BILL.

AND SO IT WAS AT THAT POINT THAT I BELIEVE, UM, MR. SPARE BEGAN TO WORK WITH PLANNING AND ZONING ON GETTING THE APPLICATION SO THAT HE COULD DO A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS, UH, WITH A DIRT POND.

UH, THE PROBLEM IS IF, UM, MANY OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA AND AS MR. M SPARE HAS INDICATED, HE'S NOT TRYING TO REZONE A SUBDIVISION, BUT HE'S TRYING TO REZONE HIS PROPERTY.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT CLARK STREET IS THE ONE AND ONLY STREET.

IT'S A DADDY.

AND, AND IT'S THE ONLY ACCESS WAY TO GRANBURY IN WHICH HIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED FOR HOMEOWNERS, UM, WHO ARE INTERESTED, UM, IN LIVING ON A, UH, IN OUR AREA WHERE IT'S QUIET, WHERE YOU HAVE SOME CONTROL ON CARS COMING AND GOING.

UH, IF YOU WANT CHILDREN TO BE SAFE, TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND, UM, NOT HAVING CARS FLYING THROUGH CLARK STREET IS THE BEST PLACE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THOSE, UM, THOSE ASSETS.

AND THAT'S A RARITY.

UM, IN THIS DAY AND TIME, THE, THE, UM, I RECOMMEND THAT THIS BE DENIED.

IT W THERE'S 100% REQUESTS FROM THESE RESIDENTS, UM, THAT THIS PROPERTY NOT BE REZONED.

A ONE IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, PARTICULARLY IN THIS PART OF TOWN, WE TRY TO HOLD ON TO, BECAUSE THE CORRIDOR OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, UM, IS OVERLY BURDENS.

AND IN THIS PART OF THE PARISH, SO TO ADD, UM, ANOTHER HEAVY COMMERCIAL, OR EVEN IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING, IF THIS WERE THE CASE, WE'LL KIND OF VIOLATE WHAT IT IS THAT THOSE THAT WANT TO LIVE WITHIN THE PEACE AND TRANQUILITY OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WOULD PRODUCE.

I THINK THAT WHENEVER SOMEONE WANTS TO REZONE IN AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE EXISTING RESIDENTS IN EXISTING, A HOME, UM, HOME OWNER, UM, WHATEVER THAT ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SHOULD BENEFIT AND INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT CURRENTLY LIVE THERE.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND MIXED DEVELOPMENT.

I DO UNDERSTAND MIXED USES USAGES, BUT THIS HAS BEEN WHAT CLARK STREET HAS BEEN FOR ITS ENTIRE EXISTENCE.

THIS IS WHAT GRADS BEAR IT'S BEEN A ONE HAS BEEN RESIDENTIAL.

UH, ONE OF THE PERSONS JUST MOVED OVER THERE, UH, MOVED THERE A YEAR AGO FROM LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, AND HE AND HIS FAMILY MOVED WITH THEIR YOUNG DAUGHTERS BECAUSE OF JUST WHAT I SAID, IT WAS QUIET.

IT WAS OFF THE BEATEN PATH.

THEY FELT SAFE AND SECURE.

SO TO ADD THE COMMERCIAL WITH THE DUMP TRUCKS, UM, THE DIRT FLYING THOUGH, THE ROAD MAINTENANCE, UM, THE LACK OF SAFETY, THE NARROW SOUR COULD REALLY, THERE IT IS ONLY TWO CARS COULD PASS.

UM, THERE'S NO, UH, IN SOME AREAS IT'S NOT EVEN PAVED AND THEY HAVE DEEP SIDES.

SO I DO RECOMMEND THAT THIS NOT BE REZONED THAT WE DENIED THIS APPLICATION, UM, AND THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO LIVE THEIR LIVES, UM, IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THEY DON'T HAVE IT'S LIMITED.

IT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION, IT'S A ONE STREET AND THIS IS A SHOOT OFF FROM THAT STREET.

AND, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE TOTALLY UNFAIR, UM, TO ADD SOMETHING THAT IS BURDENSOME TO THESE RESIDENTS AND THAT WILL NOT INCREASE THE OF LIFE OF THEIR EXISTENCE, BUT WOULD ACTUALLY DECREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THOSE LIVING ON THE STREET.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS.

UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM HER TO DENY THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER

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ELLENDER? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO DENYING THIS ITEM COMMENT FROM COMMISSIONER ADAMS? AYE.

MR. SPARROW, CAN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE ONE SECOND, PLEASE? I HEARD SOME OF THE RESIDENTS RAISED THE CONCERN.

I DIDN'T ASK THE COUNCIL WOMAN, HER OPINION OF THAT ISSUE THAT YOU WERE GIVEN UP TO AUGUST TO POSSIBLY COMPLETE YOUR EXCAVATION.

OH, IT'S 2020.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UM, THAT CHANGES MY QUESTION TREMENDOUSLY.

UH, YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO COMPLETE YOUR QUITE OBVIOUSLY NOT EVEN COMPLETE YOUR EXCAVATION AUGUST, 2020.

AND THAT, THAT IS THE REASON WHY, I GUESS YOU'D BEFORE THE COMMISSION NOW TO TRY TO GET A NON-PERMITTED USE OF EXCAVATION TO REZONE IT, TO BECOME A PERMITTED USE.

WOULD I BE CORRECT? I GUESS I WAS A LITTLE THROWN OFF BECAUSE WHEN THEY SAID, OH, THAT'S, I THOUGHT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AUGUST THIS YEAR AND NOT AUGUST A YEAR AGO.

AND SO YOU'VE OPERATED WITH A TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL OPERATION FOR OVER FOUR FOOT SINCE 20.

WELL, WE KNOW THAT'S WHEN IT CAME TO MY, I GUESS YOU COULD ADDRESS.

AND SINCE I CALL YOU UP TO THE MIC, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR INTENT HERE? CAUSE IF, IF YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MY QUESTION WAS BASED ON THE IDEA THAT IT WAS FOR 2021, NOT 2020, ABOUT HOW CAN YOU GET YOUR PROJECT COMPLETED, UH, HOW MUCH MORE TIME, OR IS IT NOW YOUR INTENT IS NOT, UM, DISPENSE WITH THE EXCAVATION AND THE GRAVEL AND SAND MINING.

AND, UM, I GUESS IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED SOMEONE WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS, IF SOMEONE HAD TO STOP AND CEASED.

AND SINCE THAT OPERATION, I MEAN, SO COMMISSIONER AND SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON THE, ON THE ISSUE.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT COULD, COULD ADD SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY PARISH CITED THIS APPLICANT, UH, SOMETIME AGO FOR OPERATING ILLEGALLY, WITHOUT THE REQUIRED PERMITS AND THE PROPER ZONING.

UM, THIS ATTEMPT, THIS REZONING APPLICATION WOULD BE STEP ONE IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT LEGAL.

UM, HE WAS TOLD, UH, FROM DAY ONE, WHEN, WHEN INITIALLY CONTACTED OUR OFFICE TO SUBMIT A REZONING APPLICATION, THIS REZONING APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS ESSENTIALLY A DOWNER ZONING, THE CERTIFICATION FROM THE STAFF HAS, IS BY NO MEANS AN ENDORSEMENT OF THE PROJECT OR THE APPLICANT, BUT IT IS A REQUEST THROUGH REASON FROM A ONE TWO WORLD WORLD ZONING IS THE ONLY ZONING THAT A DIRT PIT COULD OPERATE IN.

UH, HE WAS TOLD THAT EVEN IF HE GOT THE REZONING, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO, TO ATTEMPT TO GET THE REZONING, HE WOULD NEED TO CONTACT HIS NEIGHBORS.

UM, AND THE REZONING WAS, WAS STEP ONE, IF THAT WERE TO BE APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, WHICH, UH, LOOKS TO BE QUITE CHALLENGING.

NOW HE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT AGAIN WOULD REQUIRE PLANNING, COMMISSION AND COUNCIL APPROVAL AT, AT A LATER DATE, UM, AND REQUIRED ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL DRAWINGS AND PLANS THAT HE WAS, HE WAS TOLD ABOUT FROM THE INITIAL DISCUSSION.

SO, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE REZONING REQUEST IS INAPPROPRIATE, UM, BASED ON THE COMMENTS AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN THEIR IMMEDIATE AREA, THEN, OKAY, MRS. SPARROW, YOU CAN ADDRESS WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT TO RAISE.

I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN DENIED, SO I'M AT PEACE WITH, OKAY, WELL CURRENTLY, I MEAN, YOU, YOU, ARE, YOU CURRENTLY NO LONGER DOING YOUR OPERATION AT THIS STAGE? WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, CHAIRMAN YOU'RE NO LONGER DOING NO, NO, I HAVE NOT.

NO.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, PERMISSION, MADISON.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR HAS BEEN SECONDED.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NOW THAT ITEM HAS BEEN DENIED

[22. Case 39-21 7310 Airline Highway, Suite I]

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 22 CASE 39, 21, 7 31 0 AIRLINE HIGHWAY, SUITE ONE CASE 39, 21 7 3 1 OH AIRLINE HIGHWAY, SUITE ONE, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF AIRLINE HIGHWAY, NORTH OF WINDWARD AVENUE, COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX, DUNN JR.

THE APPLICANT IS RACIA ELLIS AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RESIGN FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL C2 TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE FRONT LOUNGE CAB TO THE PROPOSED USE IS BAR AND LOUNGE.

AND THE FUTURE OF YOUR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS

[02:10:01]

COMMERCIAL CASE 39, 21 7 3 1 OH AIRLINE HIGHWAY, SUITE ONE, STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING, BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THE REASON THIS ITEM WAS NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS WE PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED A MESSAGE OF CONCERN FROM, UM, UH, A CITIZEN.

THEN THAT MESSAGE OF CONCERN I BELIEVE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

UH, OR SO I'VE BEEN TOLD THANK YOU TO WRITE THE WHOLE COMMERCIAL MEMBERS AT THIS TIME.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS RAY ELLIS, AND I AM OVER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM IN FAVOR, OR THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEMBERS AT THIS TIME.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS, EMOTIONS, COMMISSIONER, ADDISON, MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE.

I BELIEVE THAT MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THIS ITEM? NO, JUST A COMMENT.

COMMENT FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS.

UM, MA'AM HEY, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH COUNCILMEN DONE ON THIS PROJECT.

NOT YET.

WELL, THEY, WHEN I WENT TO THE OFFICE, THEY DID TELL ME WAS MR. COLWIN BURGERS? NO, IT'S GOT A LOT JUST NOW FINDING OUT THAT IT'S NO.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THIS ITEM OR NOT.

WE'LL COME BACK.

CAUSE I WOULD JUST, UM, GOT A TEXT WHERE'S THIS EXACTLY.

I KNOW.

I SEE IT SAID AIRLINE THAT WAY IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, IN THE LITTLE SHOPPING CENTER NEXT DOOR.

SO I DID REACH OUT TO COUNCILMAN DON'S OFFICE AND BRIEFED HIS OFFICE THERE.

THERE WEREN'T ANY ADDITIONAL CONCERNS.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 23, CASE 40 21, 11 28 AND 1140 OATMEAL LANE CASE 40 21, 11 28 AND 1148.

THAT'S FINE.

TAPING ON WHAT HE'S SAYING.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BOMB YOU.

THEY DON'T IT'S OKAY.

OH, OKAY.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE ABOUT THE COMPANY THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD RECEIVED.

BOY, SAY, I DIDN'T HEAR IT.

GO AHEAD.

NO, SHE WAS TRYING, SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT THAT.

NO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO KEEP, BUT YOU GOOD? YEAH.

I MEAN, AS FAR AS I KNOW, UM, I WAS JUST DOUBLE CHECKING THE CAR COMMISSIONER BANKS DIDN'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NONE? THAT ITEM IS APPROVED AT THIS TIME.

[23. Case 40-21 1128 and 1148 O’Neal Lane]

O'NEAL LANE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF BONO LANE, NORTH OF EAST RIVERDALE AVENUE, COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT, AMAROSA.

THE APPLICANT IS DOMINIC WONG.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RESIGN FROM GENERAL OFFICE.

LOW-RISE GOL TWO HEAVY COMMERCIAL, ONE AC ONE, THE PROPOSED USE AS RETAIL AND THE FUTURE VR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS MIXED USE CASE 40 21, 11 28 AND 1148.

O'NEIL OKAY.

STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING.

BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

PLANNING STAFF HAS, HAS RECEIVED ONE MESSAGE AND THE OPPOSITION TO THE SIDE COMMISSION MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M ATTORNEY JIM HOLD.

I REPRESENT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WE LANDS IN QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEED CARDS IN FAVOR OR OPPOSE TO THIS ITEM.

TO, UH, IT WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER HILL TO APPROVE.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FOR THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER HERO? I MOVED

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I BELIEVE THAT MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SAYING NONE? THAT ITEM IS APPROVED THIS

[25. Case 42-21 14060 Florida Boulevard]

TIME WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 25 CASE 42 21 1 4 0 6 0 FLORIDA BOULEVARD, 42 21, 1 4 0 6 0 FLORIDA BOULEVARD.

LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FLORIDA BOULEVARD, WEST OF PONDEROSA DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR.

THE APPLICANT IS JENNIFER ROBINSON AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REASONING FROM RURAL TO LIKE COMMERCIAL THREE L C3 PROPRIETORS USES FUNERAL HOME AND CEMETERY.

FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION AS COMMERCIAL CASE 42 21 1 4 0 6 0 FLORIDA PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR CHANGES, ZONING, BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED 11 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER.

I AM NOW COULD YOU MOVE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC? BRING THE MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOU.

I WILL YOU HAVE THE FLOOR TO ANY QUESTIONS AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? YOU HAVE ONE SPEAKER IN FAVOR AND WANT TO POSE.

I'LL INVITE THE SPEAKER.

NOT AS IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.

MA'AM GOOD EVENING.

WHITE.

I AM A REALTOR.

I'M A BROKER WITH REAL ESTATE.

I'M SPEAKING.

I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL RIGHT NOW, AS IT STANDS, THE PROPERTY, UM, IS ALL RULE.

AND I FEEL THAT IT'S INJUSTICE TO DENY ZONING WHEN IT MEET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR REZONING RIGHT NOW IS HIS OWN RULE.

AND WE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER, UM, REZONING IT TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL, UH, FOR THE WHOLE OF THE PROPERTY AT BAY.

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WANT TO DEVELOP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITIZENS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S ALL OLD.

AND I'M JUST SPEAKING ON BEHALF, JUST BEING A RELATIVE.

WE HAVE COMPASSIONATE ON THE CITIZENS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME TOGETHER WITH THEM.

WE'RE NOT AGAINST THEM.

WE SYMPATHIZE WITH THEIR CONCERNS AND WE WANT TO COME TOGETHER TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER ISSUES THEY MIGHT HAVE.

WE KNOW AT PRESENT, IF THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH THE FLOODING SITUATION, THAT IS A SITUATION THAT THE CITY OR THE STATE OR WHOEVER DEALS WITH FLOODING HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT TO DENIED ZONING, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT IS UNFAIR TO THE PERSON THAT'S LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY.

AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO GIVE US SOME CONSIDERATION, TO DEVELOP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO MEET WITH THE CITIZENS, TO TRY TO SEE IF WE COULD WORK OUT SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD BE PLEASED WITH THE SITUATION.

DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL INVITE THE SPEAKER THAT IS IN OPPOSITION.

WE HAVE CLARIFICATION TO THAT.

WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX CARS IN OPPOSITION.

THREE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, OKAY.

I'LL INVITE THE FIRST PERSON AT THIS TIME TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES EVENING.

MY NAME IS KELVIN BARBARA.

I LIVE ON THE, UM, UM, I'M ACTUALLY THE FIRST HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, ONE THING I KNOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FLUID, EPIC RAIN JUST FOR LIKE TWO SECONDS, YOU KNOW, AND TO BUILD A GRAVEYARD, A CEMETERY AND TO ADD NEW, NEW, NEW DEVELOPMENT.

OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO IS RAISE THE GROUND AND PUSH THE WATER BACK.

WE LET HIM IN 2016, THE WATER CAME OUT THE GROUND SO IMAGINE WHAT THE WATER DO WHEN YOU PUT THE CEMETERY THERE.

UM, I'M IN A PRACTICE OF, UM, AT THAT HAIR DIS UH, TO WHERE I GOT THIS IN JUNE THE CALLER SAYING THAT, UM, IT WAS GOING TO BE REZONED TO COMMERCIAL, LIKE, OH NO.

AND SO NOW I'M LOOKING TO DO WHAT I CAN DO TO TRY TO GET OUT OF THAT, BECAUSE IF IT HAPPENED, I, I, WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE, BUT TO MOVE NOBODY ON THAT STREAM IS GOING TO BE GOOD WITH OUR, UH,

[02:20:01]

THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

SO YOU HAVE THE FOUR FOR THREE MINUTES.

YES, I AM A RESIDENT OF THIS DIVISION FOR 28 YEARS.

EXCUSE ME, SIR.

CAN YOU GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? TYRONE I'M AT 1 26 FEET DRY.

AND THEN, UH, IN A MANNER SUBDIVISION ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING LEASED, UH, POSSIBLY RECENTLY.

UM, I HAVE SENT LETTERS TO THE ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HAVE SENT, UH, I HAVE WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND I HAVE 27 SIGNATURES OF THE 34 HOUSES THAT ARE INHABITED ON THE STREET.

MANY OF THE HOUSES HAVE NOT BEEN REINHABITED SINCE THE FLOOD OF 2016, BECAUSE OF ALL THE FLOODING ISSUES THAT WE DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

UM, I ALSO SENT A STUDY TO YOU ABOUT THE DISPERSEMENT OF GROUNDWATER, UH, THROUGH THE TREES.

UH, 11,000 GALLONS OF WATER IS TO EVAPORATE IT THROUGH THOSE TREES THAT ARE ON THAT LAW, EVERY GROWING SEASON AND THE TREE ROOTS, WHICH THAT LINE IS FULL OF TREES HUNDRED, MAYBE A HUNDRED TREES IS, UH, WHAT HOLDS THAT GROUND IN PLACE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE REALTOR UNDERSTANDS OUR SITUATION WHATSOEVER.

I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE DEVELOPER.

SHE'S VERY EMPATHETIC AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE WANTS TO MAKE A, UH, UM, UH, BUSINESS HERE, BUT ARE, ARE ON STREET.

INSTEAD OF THE VISION IS BASED ON PROBABLY LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.

WE CANNOT FLUSH.

WE HAD TO REPLACE OUR SEPTIC TANKS ABOUT, UH, 18 YEARS AGO.

WE PUT IN A NEW PVC PIPE.

WE PUT IN NEW, UH, UM, UM, UM, TOOK OUT OUR SEPTIC TANKS.

OH GOSH.

WELL, I HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS THIS, THAT THAT LOT THERE IS FULL OF TREES.

AND IS THAT WHAT THEY DID ABOUT THREE FEET? THIS IS THE SERVER TOO, THAT RUNS BEHIND MY HOUSE.

MY YARD GETS SEVERAL FEET OF WATER EVERY DAY.

WHEN IT RAINS, IT HAS COME UP TO MY HOUSE AND FLOODED MY HOUSE.

UM, AND I'VE HAD TO RE PUT RE PLACE THE SAUDI.

THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE WE WILL FEED.

IT HAS A LITTLE GRAVEL DITCH AND IT BACKS UP DOWN HERE ON THE PONDEROSAS.

SO YOU HAVE ABOUT 20 SECONDS LEFT.

UM, WE HAVE A DAM HERE, WHICH IS FLORIDA BOULEVARD.

WE HAVE A SURFACE ROAD THAT IS THUMP.

WE ARE BASICALLY IN A BIG BOWL.

THERE, THERE IS A CRUSHED PIPE AND THAT'S, IT'S JUST, THERE'S QUITE PIPES THAT ARE 61 YEARS OLD.

THE CITY HAS NEVER REPLACED.

THE DRAINAGE IS HORRIBLE.

IT'S A NIGHTMARE.

IT'S JUST A NIGHTMARE RIGHT NOW.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS BUSINESS PUT IN BEHIND US WITH DEAD BODIES, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE EVERY DAY.

WE REWROTE ME RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THAT WENT REAL QUICK.

I BEG YOU DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN.

I HAVE DANIEL ON THIS CARD.

HI.

MY NAME IS DANIEL ATKINSON.

I LIVE AT 2, 3, 4 FEET.

I LIVE A COUPLE DOORS DOWN.

UM, I NEVER MET HIM UNTIL HE CAME BY WITH THIS PETITION, WHICH AS SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR 20 YEARS PLUS, UH, PIPES HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

WE'VE HAD TO HAVE REPLACED TWICE.

UM, THE FLOODING AND HURRICANES HAVE RESTORED MY HOUSE TWICE AND IT'S TAKEN OUT OF MY POCKET, NOTHING WORTH.

WHAT IS WHAT MY HEALTH IS.

MY HOUSE IS EVER GOING TO BE WORTH.

AGAIN.

IT JUST HAPPENS BEHIND MY HOUSE, ALL THE WILDLIFE.

THIS WASN'T GOING TO BE MY FOREVER HOME AND THE PERSON I TAKE CARE OF AT THAT HOME.

AND THE PEOPLE I LOOK AFTER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GOING TO BE DECIMATED.

IF Y'ALL ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN,

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THERE'S SO MUCH LOSS THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING.

I DON'T WANT TO BE THE FIRST OR SECOND TO BE THE FIRST CUSTOMER AT THIS FUNERAL HOME.

MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

AND THEN I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE, IF YOU CAN BRING THE MIC, IF YOU CAN BRING THE MIC A LITTLE CLOSER, THANK YOU.

UH, I'M NOT COMING IN SPITE OF I'M NOT COMING AGAINST YOU ALL, YOU ALL HAVE VALID CONCERNS, BUT YOUR CONCERNS ARE CONCERNS THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE FLOODING, THE TRAINING, THOSE ARE THE SITUATIONS THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH TOGETHER IS NOT DUE TO THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

UM, AND I DO WANT TO MAKE MENTION THAT WE'RE NOT HERE, UH, OR GOING FOR REZONING FOR THE CEMETERY, BECAUSE AS IT STANDS, IT IS PERMISSIBLE, UH, ON THEIR PROPERTY AUDIT ZONE AS A RULE.

SO WE'RE HERE TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE FUNERAL HOME ON LOAN WITH THE CEMETERY IS WHY WE HERE.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE MENTION, AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT.

IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO THE CEMETERY IS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN PUT THE FUNERAL HOME ALONG WITH THE CEMETERY, BUT I'M NOT HERE TO BE AGAINST YOU.

I WANT TO HELP GET THIS ISSUE RESOLVED.

I MEAN, YOU SAID IT'S A DIFFERENT 20 YEARS AND WE'RE DOING A PETITION, BUT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO HELP THE FLOODING IN THE DRAINAGE.

AND IT'S NOT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF NON-DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, WHETHER WE DO THAT OR NOT, IT STILL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT COMING IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S NOT WHY I'M HERE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.

UM, WE HIT IT OUT.

I MEAN, AND THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.

SO I JUST PRAY THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND REALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, WHILE WE'RE HERE.

THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FOR THIS ITEM, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONER BANKS, WHAT'S GOING ON TONIGHT THAT I CARE.

BUT ANYWAY, SO, UM, I DID HEAR FROM SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS REGARDING THIS, UH, MAY I SPEAK WITH, UH, THE, THE PERSON WHO'S THE APPLICANT PLEASE? WELL, THE APPLICANT COULD, I BELIEVE SHE'S AT THE PODIUM.

YES MA'AM.

SO YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO BE? I STEPPED OUT FOR A MINUTE.

IT'S UP, I'M INTERESTED IN PUTTING A FUNERAL HOME ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S ALREADY ZONED RAILROADS.

SO IT IS PERMISSIBLE FOR A CEMETERY, BUT IT'S NOT PERMISSIBLE FOR THE FUNERAL HOME.

SO I WANT TO FEEL THE FUNERAL HOME ON THE PROPERTY, ALONG WITH THE CEMETERY, IF YOU AREN'T ABLE TO DO BOTH, OR IS THIS STILL, UM, AN OPTION FOR YOU? YES MA'AM.

SO IF WE DON'T APPROVE, UM, DOES THE, THE FUNERAL HOME, YOU STILL HAVE BUILD A CEMETERY? I MEAN, YOU STILL WOULD.

MA'AM.

W WOULD SHE HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? SO A CEMETERY IS A PERMISSIBLE USE IN RURAL ZONING ONLY WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO SHE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY WITH A NEW APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE ZONING.

AND IF APPROVED, IT WOULD ALLOW A CEMETERY UNDER THE EXISTING.

WHAT, UM, OKAY, SO YOU, WERE YOU AWARE OF THAT? MA'AM YES, MA'AM.

I AM.

I DO HAVE, UH, SOME DOCUMENTATION, UM, SAYING THAT, UM, THE CEMETERY IS ALLOWABLE.

UM, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT IF NEED BE.

THE MAP OF WHERE YOU ARE, UH, WHERE YOU IT'S NOT IN HERE, BUT WHERE YOU ARE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE, IF WE DON'T APPROVE, UM, THE PART THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HAVE A FUNERAL HOME, HE WAS JUST SAYING WHAT THE, EITHER WAY, PROBABLY THAT'S THE PROCESS WITH, UM, A FUNERAL HOME.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS JUST LOOKING, I LOOKED AT

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AND, UM, THANK YOU.

AND SO THE, THE LOCATION WHERE YOU HAVE, I MEAN, THERE ARE, THERE'S A HUGE SUBDIVISION, CORRECT? ALL FLORIDA.

SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS FLORIDA.

DO YOU ALREADY HAVE A FUNERAL HOME? THERE ARE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE FLORIDA.

UH IT'S AT THE OLD, UM, EDGE WOULD SHOE REPAIR? YES MA'AM.

SO R R U S 78 40.

SO THE PROBLEM THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE IN IS THE FACT THAT, UH, KIND OF LIKE WHAT I SAID BEFORE, AND THAT IS WHEN A PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED, UM, IN THE MIDST OF WHAT A SUBDIVISION THEN USUALLY IT'S TO, UM, COMPLIMENT OR ADD TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS.

UM, SO WHAT, HOW CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? HOW WOULD THIS HELP THE RESIDENTS, UM, AND INCREASE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE? I'M THE LOCATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ACTUALLY, UM, IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, UM, ACTUALLY YES, YES.

PRIOR TO WHICH HE IS MADE, MARSHALL IS JUST THAT AREA IS YES, IT'S JUST LAP OF THE DEAD IS STILL ZONE RULE.

UM, SO, BUT THE PLAN IS IN, IN THE COMMITTEE, I DON'T WANT TO BE, I WANT TO BE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, HOW, HOW WOULD IT ADD TO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE? WELL, BECAUSE I'M ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN HARDLY HEAR YOU.

I'M SORRY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU MA'AM HOLD ON ONE SECOND, WE LOST THE MIC.

WE CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I WANT TO SUPPORT THE ELDERLY SUPPORT.

THE SCHOOLS SUPPORT THE LITTLE LEAGUE, DO THINGS THAT YOU DO IN A COMMUNITY.

UM, NOT JUST THEY'RE INSPIRED.

I DON'T WANT TO JUST SUPPORT SOMEONE IN DEBT, BUT TO SUPPORT THEM IN LIVING IN LIFE.

YOU KNOW, I WANT TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET THE DRAINAGE AND THE FLOODING.

THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT ON VALUATIONS, THEY NEED TO BE RESOLVED REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

AND TO SAY THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOOD, I JUST DISAGREE.

I'M THERE TO ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT BURYING DEAD, BUT SUPPORTED LIVING.

SO I DO NOW, NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU TOO WELL.

UM, BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE, UM, THE IDEA THAT ALL DEVELOPMENT IS BAD AND YES, IT IS TRUE THAT, UH, REGARDLESS AS TO WHETHER YOU, UM, DEVELOP HERE OR NOT, THAT SITUATIONS WHERE DRAINAGE AND MITIGATION HAVE TO BE ADDRESS, HOWEVER, THE FACT THAT YOU ARE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE SEEING AN URGENCY TO GET IT DONE NOW.

UM, DRAINAGE AND TRANSPORTATION IS SOMETHING THAT IS A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY PARISH, BUT WHEN WE GET TO IT, IT'S DETERMINED BY THINGS LIKE WHETHER OR NOT, UM, IT'S IN A FLOOD ZONE, WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS, UM, DIRECT IMPACT WITH A STORMWATER OR SOME WATERS WATERSHED.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE DEVELOPING THERE, THEN THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO ADDRESS NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A, IT'S A CONCERN FOR THOSE RESIDENTS NOW.

UM, ALL THE, YES, MA'AM ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID ARE REALLY, REALLY GOOD, EXCEPT THE FACT THAT, UM, TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS, IF THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T, THEY AREN'T BEING WELL-RECEIVED BY THE NEIGHBORS.

YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY, BUT THEY AREN'T, YOU AREN'T BEING RECEIVED BY THAT COMMUNITY.

AND IT STARTED OFF ALREADY BEING HOSTILE, SOMEWHAT NOT HOSTILE, BUT, UM, AN ISSUE I'LL JUST SAY, UM, SO THIS NOW IS THIS SOMETHING YOU HAVE UNDER CONTRACT AND YOU ALREADY PURCHASED

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UNDER CONTRACT? OKAY.

UM, I, I'M VERY, VERY SENSITIVE TO, UM, TO, TO EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT ARE THIS LARGE, THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND SO VERY LONG, UM, THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LIVED THERE A LONG TIME, I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY, UH, EVERYTHING TO THE, TO GET MY DIRECTIONS RIGHT.

TO THE RIGHT OF YOUR PR WEST OF YOUR PROPERTY.

IT IS MORE SO COMMERCIAL, BUT EVERYTHING TO THE EAST OF IT IS FOR THE MOST PART, UM, A ONE AND RESIDENTIAL BASED ON THIS MAP, IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT, MA'AM WHERE YOU SAID SOMETHING.

SO THE HOMES ON PONDEROSA LOLICH ARE THOSE HOUSES, LOCALS ACACIA.

THEY ARE IT'S RESIDENTIAL BAM.

TO THE EAST OF, YEAH, THEY ARE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING.

AND THE, ACTUALLY THE LAND EAST OF YOUR PROPERTY IS, UM, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF HOMES IN, IT'S AN OLDER SUBDIVISION, SO IT HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED ITS OWN CHARACTER AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE SETTLED IN PRETTY WELL.

UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, AND I'M ALL FOR, I, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE SEEN YOUR ADVERTISEMENT, I'VE SEEN YOUR BILLBOARDS.

I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT BUSINESS.

HAS A, THERE IS A NEED, I'M ALL FOR WOMEN ON BUSINESSES AND THERE'S AN EXTRA PLUS FROM MINORITY WOMEN ON BUSINESSES.

HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT SUPERSEDE, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE DISCOMFORT OF A RESIDENTS.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS.

IF THIS WAS A SHOPPING CENTER, PROBABLY WHERE THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO COME AND CONGREGATE AND MEET SOME QUALITY OF LIFE NEEDS.

BUT THE, UH, FUNERAL HOME IS SOMETHING THAT, YES, IT IS ABSOLUTELY A NECESSITY.

IT'S A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS.

UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE CEMETERIES ARE THERE, THEY AREN'T IN THE MIDDLE OF SUBDIVISIONS ARE NOT IN.

AND WHEN I SAY MIDDLE, I KNOW I'M NOT SAYING MIDDLE METAL, BUT, UM, THEY TRADITIONALLY ARE NOT PLACES NOW.

I MEAN, BACK IN THE DAY THEY WERE, BUT NOW IT'S SUCH A COMMERCIAL AND IT'S A LARGE AREA THAT IT WOULD NOT BE CLOSE TO HOMES.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I DO HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, UM, THIS, THIS APPLICATION AND HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE, UM, THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT, UM, YOU LOCATE THAT I CAN SUPPORT.

THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS TO DENY THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? ONCE MORE? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? OKAY.

IF THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HILL, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? VICE CHAIRMAN? CAN I MAKE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT IF YOU'RE ADDRESSED, BUT WE HAVE A COMMENT FROM A VICE CHAIRMAN, GROUT DIRECTORS.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS A FUTURE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THIS IS A DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE ON FUTURE BR THAT'S THE 20 YEAR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.

AND, UH, ON THE MAP, IT WAS GIVEN A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

UM, RAISED THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A MORATORIUM, BUT WE TALK ABOUT SYSTEM PLANNING.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YES.

I'M HIS CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT.

MR. HOFFMAN IS THIS IN A FLOOD ZONE AREA IS MOST OF ALL OF THIS PROPERTY IN FLOOD ZONE AREA.

AND WE HAD, WE HAD FUTURE DESIGNATION IS ACTUALLY COMMERCIAL.

SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS RESIDENTS HAVE RAISED AND SEEN THE CONFLICT HERE IN TERMS OF HOW WE DESIGNATE THE LAND FOR FUTURE USE.

AND WE TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF FLOODING AND WE EVEN DEFINITELY SOME FOR THE FUTURE USE OF IT IN THE MIDDLE OF FLOOD ZONE AREAS.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT AS,

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AND THAT SEEMED TO GO IN THE FACE OF SOME OF THAT.

AND I'M NOT HERE TO DEFEND THIS LADY'S PROJECT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

BUT TO ME, ONE OF THE LEFT AND CRUCIFIED IDEA WOULD BE CEMETERY OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE OF THE IDEA THAT WE TALK ABOUT, PUTTING THEM ALL WITH IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL BRICK ON THE GROUND.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

WE TALKED WITH SENSIBLE PLANNING NOW, JESUS CHRIST.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING SOMEPLACE, AND NOW WE TELL SOMEBODY TO BUILD A MALL, UH, BUILD SOMETHING MORE COMMERCIAL USE IN IT.

AND NOW WE COME WITH ALL BRICK AND MORTAR.

THE WHOLE NOW BECOME A PREPARER FOR VARIOUS AREA THAT NOW WE TALK ABOUT STORM WATER RUNOFF, AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A FUNERAL HOME IN A CEMETERY THAT TAKES A SIX BY SIX PLOT THAT IS STILL CONSUMABLE BECAUSE IT IS NOW EITHER UNDERGROUND OR WHATEVER, UNLESS THEY PUT THEM ALL AS A LIAM OR SOME SORT OF BRICK THERE AT AMAZES ME, WE TALKING ABOUT, WERE WE SUPPOSED TO BE THE GUYS WHO HAVE TOLD TO HAVE A RIGHT TO LOOK OUT FOR THAT, THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THAT? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A BUFFER ZONE IN ALL DUE RESPECTS.

COUNCILWOMAN, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A BUFFER, AS LONG AS WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW SHE PLANS ON DESIGNING THE PHIMS CEMETERY, AND IT DOES RE RESIDENCE CAN BE FARTHER AWAY FROM SOME PORTION THAT WE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES OF PROPERTY HERE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ONE STREET.

AND I, I, I DEFER TO THE IDEA OF THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVING TO CONCERNS THERE.

SO EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CEMETERY AND A FUNERAL HOME, THE BUILDING MIGHT BE 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR WHATEVER, BUT EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES OF PROPERTY.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MAP, IT'S LIKE, WOW, IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT THEM AUDITORIUM, BUT NOT TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN THE CONCEPT OF SMART GROWTH, THE TWO GO TOGETHER.

SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE LADY TO SPEAK.

I'M JUST SAYING, THAT'S MY COMMENT ON IT BECAUSE THAT'S SMART GROWTH THAT WAS TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE BUILD THIS CITY, BUT TO DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES.

HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW I'M DONE MY COMMENTS, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

WE DIDN'T, WE DO NEED TO MOVE ALONG.

THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

I HAD A COMMENT I LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE LADY.

UH, IT NEEDS TO BE QUICK THOUGH.

WE DO NEED TO MOVE ON.

WE STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS. MA'AM YOU HAD A COMMENT THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE.

I DO WANT IT TO KNOW THAT IT WILL BE A BUFFER ZONE AND A PRIVACY FENCE WHERE THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE INSIDE THE CEMETERY, UM, PLUS THE BOOK, THE BUFFER ZONE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS, MOTION TO DENY BY COMMISSIONER BANKS SECOND BY KELVIN HILL.

AT THIS TIME? WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 27, CASE 44, 21, 2 8 6 3 AND 2 8 7 3 O'NEAL LANE.

UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS HAS, UH, WITHDRAWN HER MOTION.

I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER STILL UNTIL I APPROVE THIS ITEM.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ADDISON, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR OBJECTIONS SAYING THAT ITEM IS APPROVED

[27. Case 44-21 2863 and 2873 O’Neal Lane]

HE'S 44, 21, 28, 63 AND 28, 7 3 O'NEAL LANE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF O'NEAL LANE, NORTH OF SALES HAROLD'S FERRY ROAD, COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE, HUDSON.

THE APPLICANT IS CO-ED CHOW AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RESIGN FROM RURAL TO LIKE COMMERCIAL ONE LC, ONE PROPOSED USE CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION.

AND THE FUTURE OF AIRLINE IS, IS IT MIXED USE 8 44, 21, 28, 63 AND 28 73 STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING.

AND HE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE MESSAGE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

AND WHAT'S YOUR MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

CIAO.

AND, UH, I NEED AROUND THAT AREA AND I NEED TO ASK HER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME.

NO, THE SPEAKER CARDS AND THIS ITEM OPPOSED OR IN FAVOR.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM?

[02:45:02]

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR EMOTIONS FOR THIS ITEM COMMISSION.

I ADDISON HAS MOVED TO APPROVE THIS ITEM SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STERLING.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THIS ITEM? SAY NONE.

THAT ITEM IS APPROVED

[31. Case 50-21 641 and 661 Dove Street]

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 31 CASE 50 21, 6 41 AND 6 61 DUB STREET CASE 50 21 6 4 1 AND 6 61 DUB STREET LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF DOVE STREET, WEST OF SCENIC HIGHWAY FRONTAGE ROAD, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS.

THE APPLICANT IS LARRY CARTER AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO RESIGN FROM GENERAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PROPOSED USES CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE FUTURE WE HAD A LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD CASE 50 21, 6 41 AND 6 61 DOVE STREET STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONE.

BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT.

WE HAVE ONE COD IN OPPOSITION DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

HOWEVER, THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR EMOTIONS FOR THIS ITEM, PERMISSION TO BAGS.

UH, YES, FOR SURE.

THIS TIME, COUNCILMAN ADDISON, I AM MAKING A MOTION TO DENY THIS ITEM.

UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN REACHED OUT TO THE APPLICANT SEVERAL TIMES TO COMMUNICATE ALL OF THIS ENTIRE CORRIDOR IS RESIDENTIAL.

UM, AND IT'S ALSO VERY CLOSE TO WHERE WE WERE WORKING ON A MASTER BIKE PLAN ALONG THE SCENIC HIGHWAY CORRIDOR.

SO I WOULD, UM, ABSOLUTELY, UM, LIKE TO DENY AND MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS.

AND THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THIS ITEM, BUT I'LL LET, UH, COUNCIL COUNCILMAN ADDISON, UH, SECOND THIS ITEM, NO GOING BACK.

ANY OBJECTIONS OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS SEEING NONE THAT ITEM IS DENIED

[33. PUD-1-03 Towne Centre at Cedar Lodge (Creekstone), Concept Plan, Revision 4]

AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 33, 1 0 3 TOWN CENTER AT CEDAR LODGE, PUT 1 0 3 TOWN CENTER AT CEDAR LODGE CREEKSTONE CONCEPT PLAN REVISION FOUR LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SHERIFFS AND HIGHWAY NORTH CORPORATE BOULEVARD, COUNCIL DISTRICT 11 ITEMS. APPLICANT IS STEVEN D. KELLER AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REVISE.

THE PERMISSIBLE USES TO ADD MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE OF AIRLINE USE DESIGNATION AS COMMERCIAL, BUT 1 0 3 TOWN CENTER AT CEDAR LODGE CREEKSTONE CONCEPT PLAN REVISION, FOUR STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUESTS MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR OUR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

WE'VE RECEIVED NOTICE FROM THE GOODWOOD PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED REVISION AND ALSO HAVE RECEIVED TWO MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION TO THE SIDE J COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES, A GOOD EVENING ENGINEERING 1, 1 8, 5, 4 BRIXHAM.

UM, THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN REVISION WHERE WE'RE ADDING THE USE FOR MULTIFAMILY TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

I KNOW SOME OF THE CONCERNS, UH, AND THE OPPOSITION WAS, UH, IT WAS A LITTLE AMBIGUOUS AS TO WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY WOULD GO, UH, IN THE REVISED PLANS.

WE'VE SHOWN THAT THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO ON THE OLD BOOKS, A MILLION SITE.

SO IT WON'T BE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENTAL, JUST BE ON THAT SITE.

UH, THERE'S BEEN ALSO SOME TALKS ABOUT TRAFFIC.

UM, WE DID A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, WITH TRAFFIC COUNTS AND WE ACTUALLY ARE SHOWN TO BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT WE WILL REDUCE THE TRAFFIC COUNT BY 29% AS OPPOSED TO THE RETAIL OFFICE RESTAURANT THAT'S THERE CURRENTLY.

UH, OTHERWISE I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SPEAK I'M SORRY, JUST ONE IN FAVOR, WHICH IS NOT THE SPEAK.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING

[02:50:01]

COMMISSION MEMBERS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FOR THIS ITEM? VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AND VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HILL.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SAYING ON THAT ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED AND, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB? I THINK YOU NEED TO MAKE US AWARE OF SOMETHING.

YEAH, I DO NEED TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE AND ALSO THE PUBLIC.

WE WERE JUST NOTIFYING THAT THE LIBRARY CLOSES AT EIGHT O'CLOCK.

THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW US TO GO UNTIL EIGHT 15.

WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THAT DOWN.

WE WILL HEAR ITEM NUMBER 34 T AND D 1 0 7 ROSANNE CONCEPT PLAN REVISION, 15 T AND D 1 0 7 ROSEANNE PHASE ONE THROUGH 10 CONCEPT PLAN REVISION, 15 LOCATED SOUTH OF PERKINS ROAD, EAST OF GLADSCOW AVENUE, COUNCIL DISTRICT 12.

SO AT THIS TIME

[34. TND-1-07 Rouzan, Concept Plan Revision 15]

BROCKA THE APPLICANT IS CHARLES A. LANDRY AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON A LAND USE CHART AND 55 LOW AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THE FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD T AND D 1 0 7 ROSEANNE PHASE ONE THROUGH 10 CONCEPT PLAN REVISION, 15 STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR OUR TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT.

BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE AND PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF MET ON JULY 14TH WITH HOMEOWNERS ALONG SWEETBRIAR STREET AND WITH COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN ROCCA, AND WE RECEIVED 10 MESSAGES OF OPPOSITION TO DECIDE THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING, CHARLES, NADIRI A HUNDRED DOLLARS NORTH BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA APPLICANT.

I PROVIDED YOU WITH A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, THE RELATIVELY SIMPLE AMENDMENT THAT IS PROPOSED.

SO THE CONCEPT PLAN TODAY TO INCREASE, UH, WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF ROUTES AND ONLY, UH, 55 LOTS WORKING VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

UH, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO TAKE PROPERTY THAT RIGHT NOW IS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND HAVING THAT PROPERTY USE FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, WE HAVE GONE TO THE TROUBLE WORKING WITH THE ASSOCIATION TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PRODUCTS ON SPECIFIC LOTS LIMITED TO SPECIFIC NUMBERS OF UNITS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 35 AND 36 OF THE PRESENTATION, YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO GET THAT LEVEL OF CLARITY IN THE PROJECT.

THE RESULT OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS AND ROSEANNE FROM 750 TO 805.

AGAIN, UH, WE HAVE MET MANY WITH THE, UH, UH, SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

WE'VE MET WITH METAL LEE, WE'VE EVEN MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF A SWEET BROWN, OUR, UH, ABOUT OUR, UM, PROJECT.

I'M ACTUALLY GRATEFUL THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTATIVES TO THE ASSOCIATION.

YOU HAVE WEATHERED, UH, THE SHADING TO BE WITH US.

UM, WE, UH, WENT THROUGH THE TROUBLE, UH, ALTHOUGH THIS IS COMPLETELY CONFINED TO THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF ROUTES HAN.

UH, WE DID HAVE, UH, STANTEC TO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, WHICH YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND AS A RESULT OF THE TRANSFER OF SOME OF THIS PROPERTY TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY DECREASING, UH, THE NUMBER OF, UH, TRIPS DURING PEAK HOURS, UH, THE ENTIRE COMMERCIAL.

AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, BECAUSE THE FOLKS IN THE SWEETBRIAR AREA PROBABLY INSPIRE THEIR EFFORT TO GET THE INFORMATION TO THEM.

DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, ROSANNE HAS TWO DIFFERENT DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. THE COMMERCIAL AREA IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE IN HOW THE PROPERTY IS, UH, DRAINED THAN THE RESIDENTIAL.

AND, UH, THIS, THESE 55 WATTS ARE IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA.

SO YOU HAVE A BEFORE YOUR REPORT, UH, FROM A DEPLOYMENT AND WE HAVE AN ENGINEER HERE FROM PLANTS THAT THESE LOTS OF ZERO IMPACT WHATSOEVER, UH, ON ANY OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND IMPORTANTLY, UM, THE CLOSEST THAT WE ARE ARE TO SWEETBRIAR,

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WHICH ISN'T COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS ALMOST FIVE FOOTBALL FIELDS AWAY.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE ZERO IMPACT ON DRAINAGE.

WE IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC.

UH, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS OF MEETING WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE TO SUPPORT IT AND, UH, UH, RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM.

I FAVOR WE HAVE FOR AN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO WISH TO SPEAK.

I'LL INVITE THE FIRST SPEAKER UP AT THIS TIME.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.

I'VE JUST BEEN TOLD WE HAVE ONE IN FAVOR TO SPEAK.

I'LL LET WRITE THAT PERSON AT THIS TIME.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, CHRISTINA.

MY NAME IS SOUTH CHRISTINE.

I LIVE AT 1833 HOOD AVENUE.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH MR. LANDRY IN REGARDS TO HIS PROPOSAL.

HE'S MET WITH US ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS OVER SEVERAL MONTHS, UM, PUTTING THIS IN PLACE AND, UM, THE ASSOCIATION, UM, DOES NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS BEING ADDED INTO IT.

AND IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION.

HI, MY NAME IS SUSAN HARNEY.

UH, I'M JUST WONDERING IF MAYBE THE STAFF WAS NOT AWARE OF THE ORDINANCE THAT EXISTS FOR THIS SPECIFIC T AND D WHEN IT RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THIS REVISION TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, THE ORDINANCE STIPULATES THAT RESIDENTIAL DENSITY CAN'T BE MORE THAN 750 UNITS.

AND THE REQUEST IS FOR 8 0 5.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN UNILATERALLY OVERRIDE THAT ORDINANCE OR HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

UM, THE UNITS BY TYPE IN THE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UM, SHOWS THE DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE THE UNITS WILL GO.

AND THOSE UNITS TOTAL 73 AND, UH, 55 IS WHAT THE INCREASE IS REQUESTED.

SO I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT ASPECT.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DECISION WAS MADE BY THE DEVELOPER TO MOVE THE, FROM COMMERCIAL TO MORE RESIDENTIAL UNITS SINCE THE NEED FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY HAS DECREASED, UH, BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT THE PLANS STILL SHOW A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET IN COMMERCIAL.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF THEY'RE REQUESTING MORE RESIDENTIAL THAT, UH, NUMB THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COMMERCIAL SHOULD BE REDUCED, UM, TO OFFSET THAT.

AND I DO WANT TO LET MR. LANDRY KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE HIS CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, UH, COREY BLANCHARD, WORKING WITH US TO GET THE HUNDREDS OF DUMP TRUCKS THAT WERE COMING DOWN OUR STREET REROUTED TO THEIR ENTRANCES AND EXITS.

AND WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.

OFFICIAL AND SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

TAD HARDEN.

I LIVE ON SWEEPER STREET AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

UM, I TRUST THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS A GOOD GRASP OF THE HISTORY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING THE MANAGEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED, UH, THE ORDINANCE CONTAINED CERTAIN CONSENSUS ITEMS THAT WERE AGREED UPON BY THE DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVES BY CPX, EXCUSE ME, BY THE SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND BY OTHER RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT 12, UH, THE ITEMS IN INCREMENTS WERE AGREED UPON ONLY AFTER MONTHS OF VERY, VERY DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE LIMITATION OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH IS SET AT SEVEN 50 IN THIS ORDINANCE.

UH, THE LIMIT IS IN PLACE TO HOLD THE DENSITY AND CHECK ON THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS IT HAS ON THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC, STORM, WATER, SEWAGE, AND SO FORTH IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, I UNDERSTAND MR. LANDRY MENTIONED THAT TRAFFIC HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE LESS, BUT WE ALL KNOW AS DENSITY GOES UP, THE POTENTIAL IS THERE.

UM, IT WAS NOTED THAT THE INCREASE IN THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IS BASICALLY A TRADE OFF IT'S ON COMMERCIAL SPACE.

AND THE IDEA OF SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN COMMERCIAL SPACE UTILIZED.

THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING THAT WE HAVE SEEN THAT INDICATES THAT THAT WOULD BE OFFICIALLY

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SO, UH, RESIDENTIAL CERTAINLY I THINK IS PREFERRED, WHICH IS WHY THIS OUTSIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION IS IN APPROVAL BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT COMMERCIAL THAN THEY ARE RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT THOSE OF US WHO LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT, OR JUST A FEW HOUSES AWAY FROM IT HAVE CONCERNS ACROSS THE BOARD ABOUT HOW CHANGES IN DENSITY COULD IMPACT US.

YEAH, THE DISTRICT ROSEANNE HAS TWO DETENTION PONDS.

SO ONE'S ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN COCKER TO STATES.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ON PROPERTY OWNED BY ROUSSANNE AND ONE IS PLANNED FOR THE GLASGOW SCHOOL PLAYGROUND.

UM, BY HAVING TWO DETENTION PONDS OFFSITE, ROSEANNE HAS OFFICIALLY EXPANDED ITS FOOTPRINT TO ADD ABOUT SIX ACRES OR SO, UH, ADDITIONAL SPACE TO THE T AND D UNOFFICIALLY BY PUTTING DETENTION PONDS ON OTHER PROPERTIES, BASED ON A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM THAT THE CAN WE DISCUSS THAT SEEMS TO BE A TREND REGARDING PUBLIC PROPERTY.

UH, IS THIS ALSO AN ACTION DESIGNED TO FREE UP EVEN MORE SPACE FOR MORE RESIDENCES DOWN THE ROAD, OR MAYBE EVEN ALLOW TO REACH THAT MAXIMUM MAXIMUM? SO THANK YOU.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE REMEDY AT LEAST CURRENTLY, UH, FOR POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS IS TO HAVE THE COMMISSION ON OR THE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN PLACE AND KEEP THE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE THERE.

NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

UM, MY NAME IS MARYANNE EKA, STELLA.

I LIVE AT 4 8, 8 8 SWEETBRIAR SPEEDWAY.

UM, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR THREE HOURS AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME.

AND THERE'S RECURRING THEMES THAT GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE EVENING, MOVING RETENTION PONDS.

THEY SEEM TO NEVER END UP ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED, BUT ALWAYS SOMEWHERE ELSE LIKE BEHIND OUR HOUSES.

UH, THAT'S ONE THEME.

THE OTHER THEME IS, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE AND A TRADE-OFF FROM THE DEVELOPERS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS.

MY STREET IS THE ONE STREET THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO WANT TO ZIP DOWN BECAUSE IT'S A STRAIGHT ROUTE RIGHT OUT OF ROSEANNE OVER TO LEE HIGHWAY, NOT LEE HIGHWAY LEE, UM, THE ROAD, UM, THIS OTHER GENTLEMAN, MR. CHRISTINA WHO'S.

SO IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT, THAT'S ON HOOD AVENUE, WHICH IS TWO SUBDIVISIONS AWAY FROM WHERE WE ARE.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE HIS, UM, UH, HIS LOVE OF THIS PROPERTY COMES INTO PLAY.

UM, ANOTHER ASPECT OF ALL OF THIS IS THE EXISTING RULES THAT WE HAD 750 THAT THE HARDY'S TALK ABOUT.

AND NOW WE HAVE 800.

UM, AND I KNOW MR. ADIS WAS TALKING ABOUT HONORING EXISTING CONTRACTS.

AND, UM, WHAT HAS GONE BEFORE THE CONTRACT THAT WAS EXISTING WAS 750.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ENDED UP WITH 50 ADDITIONAL, ALTHOUGH HE WANTS TO CHANGE COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF COVID.

NOW IT'S NOT, NOW IT'S NOT, UM, PROFITABLE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

IT'S MORE PROFITABLE, HAVE RESIDENTIAL WHEN COVID IS OVER, IS IT GOING TO, TO CHANGE? AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET TWO OR THREE STORIES WITH COMMERCIAL, AND THEN HE'LL ALSO HAVE HIS RESIDENTIAL.

I THINK ANOTHER RECURRING THEME IS THIS IN THIS WHOLE EVENING IS DEVELOPER GREED.

WHEN DO WE SAY IT'S ENOUGH? WE'RE NOT A FLOOD ZONE NOW, BUT DO WE WANT TO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE AREA OF THAT ROUGE SO THAT WE'RE ALL IN A FLOOD ZONE? IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HEADED THAT WAY.

LET'S JUST GIVE IT A BREAK AND LET ONE AIR AND THEN NOT BE A FLOOD ZONE.

THAT'S IT.

THANKS.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKER COURTS? YEAH, NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

AND AS A RESULT, UH, IN THE ADDITIONAL COSTS OF ALMOST $8,000, WE'VE ACTUALLY IMPROVED THE DRAINAGE CONDITIONS FOR, UH, THE AREA NORTH OF ROSEANNE AND THE AREA WHERE THESE FINE FOLKS LIVE.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FACTS.

UM, WHEN WE ACQUIRED, UH, ROUSSANNE IN 2018, THERE WAS AN APPROVED DRAINAGE PLAN, UH, THAT WE ELECTED, UH, TO REDO ON OUR OWN.

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UH, THE BACK OF, UH, GLASGOW MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS NOTHING BUT A BOG BECAUSE THE WATER HAD NO PLACE TO GO.

WE WENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, WORKED WITH THEM.

THE INFORMATION IS IN YOUR PACKET WHERE, UH, UNLIKE YOUR DISCUSSION FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD OVER FOUR MEETINGS, NOAH UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO ALLOW THE AREA TO BE A DRY DETENTION POND.

THAT'S LANDSCAPED HAS A WALKING PATH, BUT THEY ASKED FOR, UH, OUR PROJECT TO HAVE ACCESS WITH GLASGOW TO BRING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOGETHER.

UH, THE REASON THERE ARE MORE NUMBERS IN THE SCHEDULE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T USED ALL OF OUR 750 UNITS AND THE ART THAT'S THAT SHE'S REFERRING TO, WHICH I CAN ALMOST READ TO YOU VERBATIM IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH A PRIME MOVER OF THAT ORDINANCE.

BEING THE SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

THE NEXT STEP AFTER WE GET YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS IS TO GO TO THE COUNCIL AND NOT ONLY GET AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH YOU ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY, BUT THE ORDINANCE, WHICH AS MOST OF YOU, PARTICULARLY THOSE YEARS SERVED ON THE COUNCIL.

UH, YOU HAVE AMENDMENTS TO ORDINANCES.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE ORDINANCE FOR ROUSSANNE HAS BEEN AMENDED.

THE CONCEPT PLAN ORDINANCE.

THIS WILL BE THE 15TH TIME.

WE WERE ACTUALLY GIVING THE COMMUNITY WHAT THE THEY ASKED FOR IN THE BEGINNING, AND THAT IS MORE RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO REDUCE THE IMPACT.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT ALTHOUGH I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE INTERESTS OF THESE FOLKS, UH, THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN CONTIGUOUS TO ROSEANNE.

AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF A DETENTION HAS IMPROVED THE CONDITION THAT THEY HAVE, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR THE WATER WHERE THEY BACK UP TO THE SCHOOL.

THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR THE WAR TO GO.

NOW WE HAVE IT UPSTREAM FROM ROSEANNE, CREATED THE TENSION THAT HELPS THEM.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PRIME AUTHORS OF THIS ORDINANCE OR HERE THE SEASONING THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM AND THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

GLADNEY COUNCILMAN ADDISON.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, AND MOTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

THANK YOU MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, I THINK MR. GLADNEY REPRESENTED THE SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION BACK FROM THIS ORDINANCE AS FAR AS DEBATED, IS HE AVAILABLE? DR.

THIS IS SOUTH CHRISTINA.

MR. GLADNEY IS NOT IN TOWN TONIGHT.

I WAS SAT IN AS A MEMBER OF ALCOHOL AS WELL ABOUT THIS.

AND HE'S BEEN AT ALL THE MEETINGS WITH MR. LANDRY AND HE'S FULLY AWARE OF ALL OF THIS.

WELL, UM, WELL, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE, UM, I'M QUITE AWARE OF WHAT, WHAT WAS DEBATED IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS THE, THE RESTRICTION FOR THE 750, AND THAT WAS A GRAVE CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS BACK THEN.

IT WAS A GRAVE CONCERN OF MR. GLADNEY PERSONALLY.

AND SO TONIGHT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT, THE CHANGE OF THE OPINION REGARDING THE INCREASE BY 55 LIGHTS.

BUT SINCE HE'S NOT HERE, I WON'T, I WON'T BOTHER TO LEAVE THAT, THAT ISSUE THAT HE CAN'T ANSWER.

AND YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT FOR HIM.

MR. LAND, CAN YOU COME BACK PLEASE? MR. ASHWIN? NO, MR. GLADMAN ACTUALLY CALL ME TWICE TODAY, UH, TO TELL ME HOW HAPPY HE WAS.

AND WE WORKED AGAIN TO, UM, GET TO THIS POINT, MR. LANDRY.

WE ADDED THREE ACRES OF ADDITIONAL LAND INTO THE COMMERCIAL AREA.

MR. GLADNEY IS NOT HERE TO ANSWER FOR HIMSELF.

I LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT AND I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

THE RESIDENT RAISED THE ISSUE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL THAT YOU ARE TRANSLATING, CHANGING THE COMMERCIAL FOOTPRINT TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT YOU'RE NOT REDUCING THE SQUARE FOOT OF YOUR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT.

IS THAT A QUESTION? YEAH.

YOU'RE NOT REDUCING YOUR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT AND I GUESS IT IS A QUESTION.

NO, SIR.

BUT, UH, IN, IN YOUR, UH, THE LAST, UH, CONCEPT PLAN, UH, THAT YOU APPROVED, UH, MR. ALISON,

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WORKING AGAIN WITH THE SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WE ELECTED NOT TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMERCIAL AT THAT TIME.

WE JUST LET THE THREE ACRES COME IN WITHOUT ANY DESIGNATION.

AND AS WE HAVE COMMITTED TO THE RESIDENCE, EVERY TIME THAT WE HAVE A PRODUCT THAT WE WANT TO BRING FORWARD, WE BRING TO THEM.

SO AT THIS POINT, NO, SIR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO REDUCE THE, UH, COMMERCIAL ALLOCATION, UH, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT MORE PROPERTY INTO, UH, THE TNB WITHOUT ASKING FOR ANY DENSITY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

SO WHEN YOU SAY YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDY WITH REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? BASED UPON IF YOU'RE SQUARE FOOT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMERCIAL IS STILL THE SAME.

IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IF THAT IT'S BASED ON, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE REPORT THAT'S, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BOARD REPORT, I'VE READ REPORT, MR. LANDRY OUT ON ASKING THE QUESTION THAT IF YOU'RE NOT REDUCING THE SQUARE FOOT OF POTENTIAL USE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, HOW DO YOU USE THE ASSERTION THAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO TRAFFIC? CAUSE YOU CAN STILL DIFFERENT TYPE OF KIT.

IT'S THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE MS. FASTEN.

YOU'RE AN EXPERT ON THIS AS, YOU KNOW, A RETAIL USE GENERATES FAR MORE, UH, TRIPS THAN A RESIDENTIAL USE.

SO THEY DID NOT LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET WOULD BE REDUCED IS THAT IF WE USE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND TOOK THAT AWAY FROM, UH, RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USE, IT REDUCES THE TRAFFIC.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I THINK, UH, HAVING TO AN ISSUE OF THE TIMELINE IS THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO EXTEND OUR TIMES EIGHT.

IT'S BEEN EXTENDED TO, TO EIGHT 30 SO WE CAN POSSIBLY GET THROUGH THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS. UH, OKAY.

MR. LANDRY.

AND AGAIN, I, I THINK THERE HAS BEEN ANOTHER CONCERN RAISED ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL APPLICANT THAT MAY COME UP IN THE FUTURE WITH ADDITIONAL, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES.

ARE YOU GUYS IN AGREEMENT OF THAT AS WELL? MR. LANDRY.

I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN FILED.

WELL, THAT'S A DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP, DIFFERENT PROPERTY, DIFFERENT AREA.

IT'S CONTIGUOUS TO ROUSE AND THAT'S, WE HAVE NO RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONTIGUOUS TO, UH, WE'RE WE'RE NOT INVOLVED WITH THEM THOUGH.

YOU HAVE NO OPINION OF THAT IS WHAT MY QUESTION WAS.

NOT WHETHER YOU'RE IN GOT INVOLVED, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE RULES ON IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

AND SO WE KIND OF ASKED MY QUESTION.

YOU HAVE NO OPINION OF THAT.

THEY HAVE OVER 300 PEOPLE THAT HAVE OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN ROSEANNE RIGHT NOW.

AND ANY ONE OF THEM AT ANY TIME CAN MAKE AN APPLICATION TO YOU TO CHANGE SOME ASPECT OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, HAVE NO POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON ANY OTHER APPLICATION, WE'RE FOCUSING ON WHAT WE HAVE FILED HERE, THE SEASONING.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 37.1 21, ELIZA GARDENS, PROBABLY 1 21 ELIZA GARDEN'S FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OUR MAIN DRIVE EAST OF SYDNEY, AVA MEMORIAL DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE A DAY.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, EMOTIONS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, EMOTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER HILL.

I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER HERO TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? ONCE MORE? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER HILL TO APPROVE THAT ITEM MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRMAN TO GRAB THE OCCASIONAL COMMENT.

THE COMMENT I WILL SECOND THE MOTION, UH, BECAUSE THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WHICH I KNOW HAS WORKED VERY HARD AND HAD HAD QUITE A MANY YEARS OF DEALINGS WITH THIS, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, I WILL SECOND THE MOTION MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE SECOND BY VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT ITEM AS AN APPROVED AT THIS TIME? WE'LL

[37. PUD-1-21 Eliza Gardens, Final Development Plan]

THE APPLICANT IS DEREK MURPHY AND THE APPLICANT

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IS PROPOSING, LIVED IN SYDNEY, ZERO LOT LINES, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL WITH A FUTURE PAIR, LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL PUT 1 21 ELIZA GARDEN'S FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN AND MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS RECEIVED TWO MESSAGES IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM IN ONE MESSAGE IN OPPOSITION.

AT THIS TIME, I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES, PREFERABLY SHORTER COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS DEREK MURPHY REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT 1 8 3 2 0 HIGHWAY 42.

IMPORTANT VINCENT.

THIS IS, AS WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE FINAL WROTE PLAN OF ALASKA GARDENS, THIS IS A 30 ACRES, A LONG BURBANK ONE, 150 LOTS.

THE COMMISSIONER AND COUNCIL SAW FIT TO APPROVE THIS CONCEPT PLAN IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT FOR APPROVAL, AS IT DOES MEET THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.

LIKE THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? HE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK AND HE IS OPPOSED.

UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, UH, REPORT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON TO THE RECREATION AND PARK COMMISSION FOR THE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE BRECK, I'LL GIVE A PRETTY BRIEF UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH BRECK AND IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR, UH, MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR THAT, UH, SENATE BILL 2 0 5 WAS SPINAL TO REMOVE FUNDING FROM BRECK TO CREATE THREE ADDITIONAL PARK SYSTEMS AND CENTRAL ZACHARY AND THE PROPOSED CITY OF ST.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FOR THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER EDISON.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ADDITIONAL COMMENT SAYING ON THAT ITEM IS APPROVED COMMISSIONER MEMBERS AT THIS TIME? WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONFIRM COMMUNICATIONS, UH, BEGINNING WITH DIRECTOR COMMENTS.

UH, MR. HOLDEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS THIS EVENING? THANK YOU.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

GEORGE.

UH, THE SHORT STORY IS, UH, A LOT OF SUPPORTERS MOUNTED, UH, FAR MORE SUPPORTERS, UH, OF THAT, THAT OPPOSE THIS BILL THEN, UH, SPEAKERS WHO WERE IN SUPPORT OF IT, UH, FROM FEW MEETINGS WERE HAD, AND THE SENATOR VOLUNTARILY, UH, DEFERRED THAT BILL WITH BRCA GREEN TO CREATE A CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE MADE UP OF RESIDENTS, UH, THAT REPRESENT THOSE AREAS, THE BREAKFAST CURRENTLY WORKING TO, UH, LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES ON HOW THOSE COMMITTEES SHOULD BE FORMED.

THAT WILL CREATE CHARTERS WITH CLEAR EXPECTATIONS BEFORE REACHING OUT TO MEMBERS.

UH, ALSO WHILE THAT WAS A CHALLENGING TIME, IT DID BRING TOGETHER PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, POLITICAL PARTIES, RACISM, WHAT HAVE YOU, AND SUPPORTED THE PARK SYSTEM.

SO, UH, IT WAS GOOD FOR THE AGENCY TO SEE THE VERY PEOPLE THAT WERE UNHAPPY WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THE ZOO DID AS THEY PROMISED THEM, FOUGHT FOR BRECK, WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY FOUND IT TO BE IMPORTANT.

UH, THIS YEAR HAS BEEN MUCH MORE EXCITING FOR THE AGENCY.

UH, OBVIOUSLY LAST YEAR WAS A VERY CHALLENGING YEAR FOR ALL.

AND, UH, BRECK HAS BEEN HARD AT WORK, UH, EARLY ON IN THIS YEAR IN PREPARING FOR SUMMER CAMPS, WHICH ARE NOW IN FULL SWING AND GIVE THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUTDOORS AND MEET NEW FRIENDS AND TO HAVE SOME HEALTHY ACTIVITY, WHICH WE ALL KNOW, UH, IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR YOUTH.

AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A STARK CONTRAST TO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO LAST YEAR.

UH, BRETT ALSO RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THEY RECEIVED A $4.69 MILLION, UH, FEDERAL WATERSHED FUNDING FOR A PROJECT AT THE GREENWOOD COMMUNITY PARK, WHICH WILL BE USED TO CREATE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.

PLUS THE WORDS WITH CYPRUS BY YOU, THE CITY PARISH ALSO RECEIVED FUNDING FOR A PARCEL OF LAND NEAR AIRLINE HIGHWAY PARK, DECREASE THE WORD FOR WARDS CREEK, WHICH IS AGAIN EXPERIENCING FLOODING.

UH, THE PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION TEAM CONTINUES TO WORK FULL-STEAM WITH MANY PROJECTS THAT ARE NOW UNDERWAY, INCLUDING THE PLAN AND EFFORT FOR THE NEW UNIVERSAL PLAYGROUND AND INDEPENDENCE COMMUNITY PARK, WHICH WE HOPE WILL ATTRACT PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

UH, THE GOAL BEING TO CREATE A SIGNATURE POLE PLAYGROUND FOR CHILDREN OF ALL ABILITIES LOCATED IN THE MOST CENTRAL LOCATION OF THE PARISH.

YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE ZILLOW GREENWOOD PROJECT THAT IS NOW UNDERWAY AND MAKING PROJECT DESPITE THE RAIN, AS THIS CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW NATURE CENTER AT FRENCHTOWN CONSERVATION AREA, PUBLIC INFO FOR THE LAKES PROJECT, NUCLEAR RECREATION CENTERS THAT HOWL AND JACKSON COMMUNITY PARKS AND GREENWAY TRAILS ALONG THE HEALTH LOOP AT COMMUNITY AT GREENWOOD COMMUNITY PARK AND PLANNING FOR THE GREENWAY WILL CONNECT TO THE SCOTLANDVILLE PARKWAY TO MEMORIAL STADIUM, A DOWNTOWN BR AS WELL AS A PLANNING EFFORTS IMPROVE THE THREE, THREE MILE SCOTLANDVILLE PARKWAY

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ITSELF.

UH, YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UH, WE HAVE A TOP RATED, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM, UH, IN THIS NATION.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE MANY, UH, MINUTE AMENITIES AND VENUES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT'LL CONCLUDE MY REPORT.

SO AT THIS TIME, IF YOU COULD JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH AS B , AS HIS PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN PROCESSING REZONING APPLICATIONS, ZONING LETTERS OF INTERPRETATION, AS WELL AS RESPONDING TO CITIZEN INQUIRIES AND THE RESOURCE CENTER.

OUR OFFICE HAS PREPARED WELL OVER WELL, OVER 100 LETTERS SO FAR IN 2021, IT HAS ASSIGNMENTS AS B DISPLAYS, A CHARACTER ATTITUDE AND WORKSTATION SHORT TASKS ARE COMPLETED ON TIME.

HE'S BEING RECOGNIZED FOR HIS OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE PLANNING TEAM.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING SB.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? HELLO, AND THANK THE LIBRARY.

UH, BEFORE WE DO THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE LIBRARY AND THE STAFF FOR ALLOWING US THE EXTRA TIME TO CONCLUDE THIS MEETING.

WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ISLANDER SECOND FROM VICE-CHAIRMAN GROUT? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SAYING NONE OF THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.