* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] IN GENERAL, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS? [CALL TO ORDER] I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED METROPOLITAN COUNCIL MEETING ON THIS WEDNESDAY, JUNE 22ND AT 2022 AT 4:00 PM. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO PASS IT TO THE HONORABLE COUNCIL NUMBER FROM DISTRICT FOUR. UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN COUNCIL. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. UM, TODAY I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE SOME, UH, A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. UM, THE REVEREND TOMMY DYLAN, WHO WILL BE LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE TODAY, HE IS WITH, UH, ST. MARGARET'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH, AND HE'S A DEAN OF THE BATON ROUGE EPISCOPAL SYSTEM DEANERY. OKAY. I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE JOKING WITH ME OR IF THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT IT WAS CALLED THE DEANERY. SO, UH, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO, UH, CALL UP MR. TOMMY, DYLAN, REVEREND TOMMY DYLAN. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. ALL. ONE OF THE THINGS I USUALLY DO IS TO INVITE PEOPLE INTO A TIME OF SILENCE TO ASK THE SPIRIT OF GOD, TO BE WITH US. AND SO LET US INVITE THE SPIRIT TO BE WITH US IN THIS CHAMBER TODAY, WE PRAY FOR THIS CITY AND FOR YOUR SERVANTS WHO ELABORATE THE WORK OF THIS CITY PARISH, ESPECIALLY IN THIS TIME OF DIVISION IN OUR COUNTRY, WE ASK YOU TO BRING US PEACE. SO GOD, AND THE PRAYER I'D LIKE TO SHARE TODAY IS THE PRAYER ATTRIBUTED TO BLESS IT. FRANCIS OF ASSISI, LORD MAKE US INSTRUMENTS OF YOUR PEACE, WHERE THERE'S HATRED. LET US SO LOVE WHERE THERE'S INJURY. PARDON, WHERE THERE IS DISCORD UNION, WHERE THERE IS DOUBT FAITH, WHERE THERE IS DESPAIR HOPE, WHERE THERE IS DARKNESS LIGHT, WHERE THERE IS SADNESS, JOY GRANT THAT WE MAY NOT SO MUCH SEEK TO BE CONSOLED AS TO CONSOLE TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS TO UNDERSTAND, TO BE LOVED AS TO LOVE. WHAT IS IT GIVING THAT WE RECEIVE? IT IS IN PARDONING THAT WE ARE PARDONED AND THERE'S AN IN DYING THAT WE ARE BORN TO ETERNAL LIFE. AMEN. AND AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO CALL UP MR. WRISTON ZIMMERMAN. UH, HE'S A PARISHIONER AT ST. MARGARET'S AND UPCOMING SECOND GRADER. WELL, THIS IS AN ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. ALL THANK YOU, REVEREND. THANK YOU, KRISTIN. I LIKE TO NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER ASHLEY, DO WE HAVE A CROWN? WE HAVE A QUORUM ITEM. ONE OF THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES OF THE [ADOPTION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES] METROPOLITAN COUNCIL MEETING OF JUNE 8TH, 2022 IN THE METROPOLITAN COUNCILS ONLY MEETING IN JUNE 15TH, 2022 BY COUNCIL ADMINISTRATIVE TREASURER. IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK OF ITEM ONE, COUNCIL MEMBERS DO A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM ONE. SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROSSA, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, HERS ITEM ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED. PASTOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE INTRODUCTIONS [INTRODUCTIONS] SECTION 2.12 INTRODUCTIONS. NUMBER TWO, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRESIDENT TO APPLY AND ACCEPT GRANT FUNDS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES TO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY-BASED TRANSDISCIPLINARY RESOURCE AND SERVICE CENTER FOR TRAUMA HEALING AND HE'S BATON ROUGE PARISH, AND THE AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION AND AUTHORIZED THE EXECUTION OF ALL DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION OR WITH BY MAYOR PRECEDENT. NUMBER THREE, OFFICE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, DIRECTOR, NUMBER FOUR, AUTHORIZE AND SETTLEMENT OF THE MATTER ENTITLED LAWRENCE BAJWA VS CITY OF BATON ROUGE AND THE AMOUNT OF $125,000 PLUS COURT COSTS AND THE AMOUNT OF $1,177 AND 12 CENTS FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $126,177 AND 12 CENTS INAPPROPRIATE IN THAT SUMMER. SUCH PURPOSE BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY CONDEMNATION INTRODUCTIONS, NUMBER FIVE, HORACE, GREELEY, WHITE JUNIOR AND GERALDINE, L Y REVOCABLE LIVING TRUST 1-817-HARDING BOULEVARD, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS, NUMBER SIX, ELVIN STERLING AND NORMA STERLING, UH, 5 3, 5 8 CADILLAC STREET, COUNCIL DISTRICT FAB HEARST NUMBER SEVEN, CHASTITY PAUSEY 803 NORTH THE KATIE AND THREE-WAY COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN, COLE NUMBER EIGHT, TIMOTHY MCCOY, 4 0 1 8 [00:05:01] CHIPPEWAS STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN, COLE, NUMBER NINE, JIM ROACH AND PRISCILLA ROCHE 1 6 9 2 NORTH 48TH STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN, COLD NUMBER 10, PHILLIP BUSH AND ADA BUSH 3 75, 4 MAIN STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN, COLD NUMBER 11, GENE THOMAS LEWIS AND LYNN LEWIS, 1 5 8, 7 7 ANTIETAM AVENUE, COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE, HUDSON NUMBER 12, RONALD DWAYNE STEVENSON AND ANNETTA STEVENSON, 5 46 SOUTH 17TH STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 13, MINNIE MAY GREEN 1 7 0 6 TARA STREET, COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 14, EDWARD BEAU CHAMP 1 7 4 4 WISTERIA STREET, COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 15, REGIONAL WEB 1 5 0 1 SCENIC HIGHWAY COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN ADJUDICATED PROPERTY INTRODUCTIONS NUMBER 16, LOT 13 PLUS SQUARE 16 SUBDIVISION FORTUNE COUNCIL, DISTRICT FAB HURST NUMBER 17, LOT 230 SUBDIVISION SOUTH FOREST HEIGHTS PARK, METRO COUNCIL, DISTRICT FAB HURST NUMBER 18 LOT 17 SQUARE RUN SQUARE ONE SUBDIVISION PITCHFORD ORSOW COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN COLE NUMBER 19 LOT EIGHT SQUARE FIVE SUBDIVISION SHORTENED PLACE. COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE HEARST NUMBER 20 LOT 59 SUBDIVISION SOUTHERN HEIGHTS COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS NUMBER 21 BUT 10 SQUARE NINE SUBDIVISION ROOSEVELT PLACE COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS NUMBER 22, LOT 48, WHERE SIX SUBDIVISION SOUTH BATON ROUGE, COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 POHLMAN NUMBER 23 LOT 26 SUBDIVISION AIRLINE TERRORISTS COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 24, LOTS THREE AND FOUR SUBDIVISION PATTERSON PLACE. COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX DUNN JR. NUMBER 25 LOT EAST BY 51 AND SOUTH BY 13 SUBDIVISION LOOCH COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE, KNOLL NUMBER 26 27 SUBDIVISION RIVERLAND COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE, GERDA NUMBER 27, LOT THREE SQUARE 90 SUBDIVISION SQUARE 97 SUBDIVISION NORTH BATON ROUGE, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS NUMBER 28, LOT ONE SQUARE 97 SUBDIVISION NORTH BATON ROUGE, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS NUMBER 29, LOT FOUR SQUARE 97 SUBDIVISION NORTH BATON ROUGE, COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS. NUMBER 30, LOT 11 A SUBDIVISION FRENCHTOWN ACRES COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR, MOKE NUMBER 31 LOT D SQUARE 18 SUBDIVISION UNIVERSITY PLACE COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS. NUMBER 32 LOT SEVEN PARTS SUBDIVISION. CURRENT CAIN PLACE. METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE HEARST NUMBER 33 LOT 20 PART SUBDIVISION, ELM GROVE GARDEN FARMS, METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS, NUMBER 34 LOT FIVE PARTS SQUARE, THREE SUBDIVISION BLUR LORET TOWN COUNCIL, DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN, ALL ITEMS REQUIRED. READING HAVE BEEN READ AND EMOTION TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS AS AN ORDER, RIGHT? IT WAS UP IN RED. IS THERE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR MAMMAL, ROSA, ALL ITEMS REQUIRING READING FOR INTRODUCTION. I'VE BEEN INTRODUCED COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF YOU WOULD GO TO THE [CONDEMNATIONS] SEPARATE SHEET FOR CONDEMNATION, I'M GOING TO READ THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATION BY DPW. THEY ARE TO PROCEED WITH ITEM 64 65 66 67 68 69, 71 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 81 82 AND 83. THERE ARE TO DELETE ITEM 70 AND 72. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON A CONDEMNATION? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON A CONDEMNATION? WE NOW GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL THE MOST, UH, 77. YEAH, I NEED A HAND. YOU GOT IT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN MOKE. 74 FOR 30 DAYS. 74 COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS. YES, MA'AM 27. SO WHAT, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD THAT BE? OKAY, GIVE ME 30 DAYS AND 73, 73, EVERYONE ELSE. LET ME READ THE RECOMMENDATION. THE STUDY CHAIN AS THEY ARE TO PROCEED. WHAT ITEMS? 67 71 75, 76, 78, 79, 81 82 AND 83. THEY ARE TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS ITEMS, 16 69, 73 AND 74 FOR 90 DAYS. USE ITEMS 64, 65, 66 AND 80 AND DELETE ITEMS, 70 72 AND 77. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONDEMNATION? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL IN THE ROCK OF SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBER HOST, ALL CONDEMNATIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AT THIS TIME. I'LL [Additional Item] GO TO COUNCIL AND REHEARSED. SO I WON'T ASK THEM TO COME TO THE FRONT MAN, BUT, UH, THE MAYOR HAS AN AMAZING PROGRAM THAT SOMEONE THROUGH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND A PARTNERSHIP WITH BIG BUDDY. AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME AMAZING PARTNERSHIPS WITH EMPLOY BEYOND THAT. I BELIEVE BY SOME OF THE BEST UNTAPPED RESOURCES IN OUR CITY. AND SO I HAVE ALMOST HALF OF MY CREWS. SO WE [00:10:01] SIGNED UP FOR SIX YOUTH SUMMER WORKERS AND WE ENDED UP WITH A WHOLE CLASS FROM A 14, BUT WHAT Y'ALL STAND TODAY? I TOLD YOU IT WAS GOING TO MAKE YOU STAY IN. SO THESE AMAZING YOUTH HAVE BEEN UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A COUNCIL PERSON. SO THEY ACTUALLY DO OUTBOUND. THEY DID, THEY, THEY, THEY WEAR THOSE BECAUSE THEY CANVAS IN THEM. RIGHT? SO LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S FULL DISTRICT VIBE TRY TO BE A UNIFORM. SO PEOPLE ACTUALLY OPEN THE DOOR, BUT THEY DO OUTBOUND 3, 1, 1 CALLS FOR A CLOSED ITEMS, NOT THE OPEN ONES. OKAY. UM, THEY DO CONSTITUENT CALLS. THEY DO COMMUNITY CANVASSING, KNOCKING ON DOORS, GETTING FEEDBACK FROM CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE US HAVE A BEST PLACE TO LIVE WORKING PLACE. SO HAVE Y'ALL COULD JUST GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THEY'RE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY. GREAT JOB. GREAT JOB, CONSTANT NUMBERS. [87. 22-00761] IF YOU WOULD REFER TO, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM 87 FIRST, UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AUDIENCE AT HOME ITEM 87 HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE DEFERRED. SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT MAY BE HERE FOR HI TO MADDIE SEVEN. IT'S GOING TO BE DEFERRED ITEM, MAYBE SEVEN A MINUTE. NICOLE, THE ORDINANCES OF THE 30 DAYS, NICOLA GORDON, SINCE WITH THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE AND THE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE IS TITLED PROTEIN. SO AS TO ADD SECTION 13, COLON 1 0 7, CAMPING AND PUBLIC AREA PROHIBITED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, LORI ADAMS AND COUNSELING, THE WHITE HUSSON. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 87? ANYONE WE SHOULDN'T SPEAK OF ITEM 87. WE DO HAVE SOME EMAIL COMMENTS. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBERS. YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED EIGHT EMAIL COMMENTS. UH, I'M SORRY. SIX EMAIL COMMENTS. ALL SIX IN OPPOSITION. AND I'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER CONSTANT NUMBER? OH, WELL WE DON'T PEOPLE TO SPEAK. COME ON DOWN. MARY JANE, MARK, AND TAIL. IF YOU ARE DEFERRING THIS FOR 30 DAYS, IS THERE GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY 30 DAYS FROM NOW TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS? OR DO I NEED TO SPEAK NOW? AND WE SPEAK NOW AND YOU CAN SPEAK IN 30 DAYS, IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. IN 30 DAYS I SENT Y'ALL SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. I GOT RESPONSES FROM SOME OF Y'ALL. IT WAS A LONG THING THAT I GAVE Y'ALL. UM, I THINK IT'S WORTH READING. THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT. THIS ORDINANCE THAT Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO A PERSON WHO'S LIVING ON THE STREET. I JUST WANT IT TO CLARIFY IF SHE SPEAKS NOW, DOES SHE ALSO SPEAK, OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE FACT THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS BEING DISCUSSED AT GAY SHOWS THAT THESE RECOGNIZED GROUPS THAT ARE OUT THERE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT WORKING. THERE ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE STREET PEOPLE. HOW MUCH PEOPLE WANT TO BE OFF THE STREET. AND THEY WORK HARD TO GET OFF THE STREET. STRAIGHT PEOPLE CHOOSE TO BE ON THE STREET. TREAT PEOPLE GENERALLY HAVE A SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. STRAIGHT PEOPLE ARE ASSISTED TO BE ON THE STREET WITH A LOT OF THE FREE THINGS THAT THEY ARE GETTING OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE NEVER REQUIRED TO SIGN UP FOR SERVICES. I LEARNED THAT PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE BAD DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES NOT TO GET TREATMENT AND TO LIVE ON THE STREET. THEY CAN TURN DOWN ASSISTANCE BROWDY AND I HAVE BEEN OUT DOING POINT IN TIME, COUNT WHERE THE PEOPLE REFUSE THE SERVICES TO HELP THEM GET OFF THE STREET. THAT'S WHY THIS ORDINANCE IS NEEDED. I'M NOT ANTI HELPING PEOPLE ON THE STREET. FOR YEARS. I HAVE HELPED USING MY TIME, MY MONEY AND GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS OF BATON ROUGE. IF ANYONE OBJECTS TO THIS ORDINANCE, ASK THEM WHY, ASK THEM WHY THEY OPPOSE IT, ASK THEM WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO GET ANYBODY OFF THE STREET, ASK HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY HAVE GOTTEN OFF THE STREETS AND ASK ABOUT THEIR FUNDING TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE GETTING VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. THIS IS A STORY FROM YESTERDAY THREE MONTHS AGO, A WOMAN WAS BROUGHT HERE BY A CALC, A SHOE OAKS, PRIVATE MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL. SHE WAS BROUGHT IN A WHITE BAND AND SHE WAS BROUGHT TO ST. AGNES. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE. SHE'S NEVER BEEN HOMELESS BEFORE WHEN SHE GOT HERE, SHE GOT DROPPED OFF, BUT DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE. SHE GOES TO THE ONE, STOP LOOKING FOR A BUS TICKET, GO TO HER FAMILY AND ALEXANDRIA WHO WANTS HER BACK YESTERDAY, UH, BATON ROUGE, POLICE OFFICER INTERACTED WITH HER, WHERE THEY MADE A PHONE CALL TO HER FAMILY. THE FAMILY SAID SHE'D BEEN MISSING. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE SHE WAS. [00:15:01] THEY WANTED HER AND A BUS TICKET WAS PROVIDED TO HER. SHE HAD ASKED THE ONE-STOP FOR A BUS TICKET, THE SAME PROGRAM THAT'S LISTED ON THE MAYOR'S FORM FOR ASSISTANCE. WHEN THEY SAID THERE WAS NO BUS TICKET AVAILABLE. WE DON'T KNOW WHY SHE WAS ON THE STREET, BUT THIS IS THE PEOPLE THAT Y'ALL ARE DEALING WITH. THAT'S YOUR TIME. I'D BE EXTRA, BUT THAT'S YOUR TIME. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM ITEM 87? YES. UM, WESTERN SHIELD, UH, DIRECTOR FOR CAPITAL AIRLINES FOR THE HOMELESS. WE OPERATE AT 1 5, 3 NORTH 17TH STREET. AND I'M BRINGING INFORMATION IN RELATION TO THIS ITEM. UH, NOT AN OPPOSITION OR EXCEPT, UH, YOU MAY KNOW IS FOR MANAGING THE ONE-STOP ALMOST SERVICES CENTER WHERE WE SERVE APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED PEOPLE A DAY AND A 5,500 PEOPLE PER YEAR. AT THIS TIME, ALL OF THOSE TO MARY JANE, I AM AWARE OF THAT SITUATION. AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING IN OUR BUILDING. IT IS A VERY PAINFUL EXPERIENCE. UH, GOING OUT TO ALL THE CLIENTS WE SERVE EVERY DAY. LET ME GO BACK TO MY COMMENTS HERE. THE ONE STEP ALSO CARRIES OUT THE MAJORITY OF INTAKES INTO BATON ROUGE IS HOUSING SYSTEM FOR PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN SHORT, THE ONE-STOP IS A HUB FOR PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITH DEDICATED ORGANIZATIONS AND RESOURCES GEARED TOWARDS THOSE LIVING ON THE STREETS. AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, THIS IS NO EASY TASK, MANY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE RESOURCES. LOOK TO US TO CARE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. MOST VALUE VULNERABLE, SOMETIMES ILL AND LACKING CRITICAL ACCESS TO COMMUNICATION TOOLS. IF THOSE COMPLICATIONS WERE NOT ENOUGH, JUST ABOUT ALL BATON ROUGE, HOUSING PROGRAMS ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED AND REQUIRED. DOCUMENTATION FOR ADMISSION CAN BE DETERMINED. THIS OFTEN MEANS EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME SPENT WORKING WITH A CLIENT TO GATHER THOSE MATERIALS. THERE IS NO HOUSING IN ONE OR EVEN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS. ADDITIONALLY, CURRENT SHELTER SERVICES ARE WORKING AT MAXIMUM CAPACITY. YOU CAN APPRECIATE WITH COVID FUNDING IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FOR 24 7 INTAKES. IF THERE WAS ADEQUATE SHELTER CAPACITY, AS A RESULT, WE ARE OFTEN SETTING UP ROUTINES WITH OUR CLIENTS BECAUSE HOUSING IS NOT A SHORT ROAD AND COMMUNICATION IS OFTEN SPOTTY AT BEST. TO THIS END, WE CREATE SPECIFIC PLANS WITH OUR CLIENTS TO MEET AT THE ONE-STOP WHEREVER THEY MAY BE LIVING ON THE STREET OR THE SHELTER. IF THEY'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET A SPOT THERE, THIS MEANS DISPLACING PEOPLE FROM ENCAMPMENTS, DISRUPTS EXISTING SERVICES. IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR HOUSING RESOLUTIONS ALREADY IN PROGRESS TO BE COMPLETED. OFTEN THAT TWO STREET OUTREACH THAT WORK OUT OF THE ONE-STOP ARE FACED WITH THIS EXACT DILEMMA. HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES ARE ALSO LOST BY OUR CLIENTS WHEN THEY ARE INCARCERATED, WE CANNOT HOLD HOUSING SPOTS OPEN FOR LONG. IT MUST MOVE ON. WHEN WE CANNOT LOCATE SOMEONE, THIS CAN MEAN THAT YOUR HIGHEST NEEDS INDIVIDUALS FIND THEMSELVES IN A TREADMILL BETWEEN JAIL AND A HOUSING OPPORTUNITY. WHEN A HOUSING OPPORTUNITY WOULD OFFER STABILITY IN THEIR LIVES OVERALL CRIMINALIZATION, IT MAKES IT HARDER TO HOUSE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AS EVERY ARREST MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE TO PASS A PRE TENANCY BACKGROUND, CHECK FROM A LANDLORD OR FOR US TO KEEP TABS ON THEIR PROGRESS ON THE PATHWAY TOWARDS HOUSING, THE SOLUTION TO HOMELESSNESS, EXPANDING THE SUPPLY OF SAFE AND AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY PEOPLE EXITING HOMELESS WITHOUT ENOUGH RESOURCES TO HELP PEOPLE RECONNECTING TO HOUSING, NOT TO OUR JOBS. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES TO HELP PEOPLE EXIT HOMELESSNESS, BINKLEY AS A RESULT OF LOW HOUSING STOCK IS THAT PEOPLE STAY HOMELESS LONGER. SHELTERS STAY FULL LONGER. THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL GOT A BIT MORE TIME, BUT YOUR TIME IS UP HERE. WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 87, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. SERGEANT RAMPING NICHE IN BATON ROUGE, POLICE, I'M HERE TO RELATE CHIEF MURPHY PAUL'S POSITION RELATIVE TO THIS, UH, ORDINANCE. UM, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ENCOUNTER, UM, HOMELESS, IF A CRIME HAS OCCURRED, OF COURSE WE WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE. UM, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF THE, UM, A LOT OF THE HOMELESS ISSUES OR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR, OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES, AND IT WAS OUR POLICY TO, TO REFER THEM TO THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM THROUGH. UM, BUT IT'S THE BRIDGE CENTER. MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS SOME SERVICES AND ALSO SOME OF THE VOLUNTEER AGENCIES. UM, AND, AND IF THIS ORDINANCE WAS PASSED, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE, UH, CONSIDERED A MISDEMEANOR AND A MISDEMEANOR. WE ISSUE A TICKET IN LIEU ARRESTING OR TAKING [00:20:01] THEM TO JAIL. UM, SO, UH, SUMMONS IS, IS, IS A PROMISE TO APPEAR IN COURT. BUT ONE OF THE, THE ISSUES WITH THAT IS, UM, WHEN YOU ISSUE IN A HOMELESS PERSON, UH, ASSIGNMENTS, YOU HAVE TO PUT AN ADDRESS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS. SO THERE'S NO WAY TO CONTACT THEM IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP IN COURT, UH, SECOND, YOU KNOW, THEY WON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE MONEY TO, TO PAY THE FINES. UM, ALSO, UM, IN ADDITION, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WON'T TAKE, UM, NON VIOLENT OFFENSES. SO THEREFORE THEY WON'T TAKE THEM IN A PARISH PRISON BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S A MISDEMEANOR. AND ON TOP OF THAT, UM, THE DA'S SPEAKING WITH OTHER OFFICERS THAT HAVE ISSUED MISDEMEANOR ASSIGNMENTS TO HOMELESS FOLKS FOR, FOR LIKE, UH, UM, SOLICITING ON, ON A PUBLIC ROADWAY FOR, FOR MONEY. UM, IT GOES THROUGH 19TH JDC COURT. AND WHEN THE DA'S LOOK, LOOK, AND SEE IT'S HOMELESS, THEY SOMETIMES DON'T LEAVE BAIL, THE, UM, THE, THE CHARGE THAT THEY WERE GIVEN. SO IT'S NICE TO MEET NEW POINT IT'S AT TIMES TO ISSUE A SUMMONS TO A HOMELESS PERSON. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. ONE ELSE HERE, WISHING TO SPEAK AND WRITE AND MAYBE SEVEN. UM, MY NAME IS BRIAN . I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CHRISTIAN OUTREACH CENTER OF BATON ROUGE. AND I WANTED TO OFFER A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. UM, I AM SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN HOMELESS IN THE BATON ROUGE AREA, UM, BACK IN 2009, UM, IN OUR CIRCLES, UM, THE KIND OF HOMELESS THAT I WAS, WE CALL DIVERSION. I WAS ABLE TO STAY WITH RELATIVES, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF I DIDN'T HAVE THAT AS AN OPTION. AND, UM, AND I'M PROOF THAT HOMELESSNESS CAN HAPPEN TO ANYBODY. I WENT TO A PEST COUPLE HIGH SCHOOL, GRADUATED FROM LSU, UM, WAS SUCCESSFUL. UM, AT THAT AT THE TIME I WAS HOMELESS, I HAD A MASTER'S AND A DOCTORATE, AND IT'S JUST, IT IS, AND IT IS POSSIBLE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE FOR THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF CIRCUMSTANCES TO LINE UP TO WHERE YOU CAN FIND YOURSELF IN THAT SITUATION. I, UM, WAS AGAIN, VERY BLESSED TO HAVE RELATIVES TO GO TO. UM, BUT IF I DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD I HAVE DONE? I MEAN, BEING HOMELESS REDUCES ANY OF US, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TO A STATE OF TRAUMA AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE LEVELS THAT, THAT ADRENALINE, THAT NEVER STOPS THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE TECHNICAL TERMS, BUT I'VE LIVED THROUGH IT. AND I BASICALLY KIND OF CONSIDER MYSELF AS RECOVERING WITH, UH, PTSD, UM, STILL HAVE ONGOING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT I TAKE MEDICATION FOR, UM, WHICH CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THAT TIME. UM, AND SO I'M HAPPY TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT. AND, UM, IT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT THAT AS WE TACKLE THIS ISSUE, THAT WE LOOK AT IT AND THAT WE COME TOGETHER TO REALLY DIG DEEPLY INTO THIS AND TO COME UP WITH POSITIVE SOLUTIONS, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH YOU ALL TALKING WITH US AS PRACTITIONERS, UM, WE ARE SO HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, UM, REALLY DIG INTO WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO? HOW COULD WE GET MORE HOUSING? HOW CAN WE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE'S IN AN ENCAMPMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE, UM, GET THEM TRANSPORTED TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AT, UH, TO HAVE SERVICES? AND SO THAT'S MY INVITATION, MY PERSPECTIVE, AND MY IMITATION IS THAT WE CAN ALL SIT DOWN, UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO HANG AROUND AFTERWARDS AND LET'S GET A TIME ON THE CALENDAR WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS. AND MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL. SO I, I, MORE THAN ANYTHING, I THINK THIS IS GREAT THAT WE CAN START TALKING AND REALLY DIG DEEP AND GET SOME GREAT SOLUTIONS FOR THE BATON ROUGE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 87, GOOD AFTERNOON, ALFREDO CREWS WITH A HOUSING LOUISIANA. UM, AND I COME AT THIS FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, UH, ORDINANCES LIKE THIS, AND A LOT OF RESEARCH SHOWS ENDS UP COSTING MUNICIPALITIES, A LOT OF MONEY, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, THE ENFORCEMENT OF IT. AND AS YOU HEARD FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UM, THEIR SYSTEMS TO BE CREATED IN ORDER TO FULLY IMPLEMENT THESE KINDS OF ORDINANCES, UM, TO SPEND THAT KIND OF, TO MAKE THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT ON A POLICY THAT PUTS PEOPLE IN JAIL, ULTIMATELY, WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO JUST INVEST IN HOUSING SOLUTIONS. UM, AND THERE'S A FEDERAL PLAN TO END HOMELESSNESS THAT I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT. UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF [00:25:01] MEETING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS THIS MORNING, AND I SHARED WITH ALL OF YOU THE FOLLOWUP LETTER THAT I SENT HER WITH A LOT OF THE RESOURCES, BUT THE ONE I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH IS THIS FEDERAL PLAN. UM, BECAUSE HOMELESSNESS IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE. AND WE SHOULDN'T THINK OF LIKE ONE INDIVIDUAL AS THE EXAMPLE THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE ELSE. AND THEREFORE THE APPROACH HAS TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AND VERY INDIVIDUAL AS WELL. SO WE DO NEED TO DIG DEEP AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE AND THAT EVERY PERSON WHO EXPERIENCES HOMELESSNESS IS VERY DIFFERENT. AND SO AN APPROACH THAT INCARCERATES THEM DEFINES THEM. UM, IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR EVERYONE. AND, UH, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT DOING THIS IN A MORE HUMANE WAY. UM, WE MAY DIFFER ABOUT THIS, UM, BUT ULTIMATELY BUILDING OUR COMMUNITY AND BUILDING THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT. AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU HAVE THAT TASK TO LEAD US IN BUILDING A STRONGER COMMUNITY THAT UNITE US AND POLICIES THAT INCARCERATE PEOPLE AND OTHER STEM IS NOT ONE THAT UNITES US, BUT ALSO IT HELPS TO SEPARATE US AND MAKE US VERY DIFFERENT AND APART. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR SHADING. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK OF MAYBE SEVEN GOOD AFTERNOON. I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN ADAMS AGAIN FOR MAKING TIME TO HAVE A VERY THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS TOPIC. AND ALL I REALLY WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL OF IS THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO FULLY VET THESE TOPICS. THEY ARE COMPLICATED. THERE IS NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL AS A VETERAN AND AS A FAMILY MEMBER OF A VETERAN, I PARTICULARLY AM SENSITIVE TO THE ISSUES OF VETERANS HOMELESSNESS, BUT ALSO AS A PERSON THAT WORKS WITH LOW AND NO WEALTH COMMUNITIES, MOST OF OUR SOCIAL EELS ARE NOT GOING TO BE FALL ABOUT POLICING. THAT'S JUST THE REALITY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE HARD WORK OF ACTUALLY DISCUSSING THEM, THE LAYERS, THE COMPLEXITIES, THE FINANCIAL ISSUES. AND SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN ADAMS AND NUMEROUS PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL FOR BEING WILLING TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND NOT MAKE THESE SHORT TERM DECISIONS. THIS IS A PARISH THAT PAYS A LOT OUT AND LAWSUITS, AS I'VE TOLD YOU ALL BEFORE, IF YOU GOOGLE THIS PARISH, THE PRISON COMES UP. THAT IS THE REPUTATION. AND SO I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND KNOW THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND BETTER. AND I THINK IT'LL BE WORTH IT TO ALL OF US. THANK YOU. I GET REVENUE AS SOON AS ANYONE ELSE HERE, WISHING TO SPEAK MORE ITEM 87. NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M SORRY. YOU DIDN'T SEE. YES. HEY, I AM HEATHER JONES. UM, I'M ACTUALLY WITH EMPOWER TWO TO FIVE I'M ON THE STREET OUTREACH SUPERVISOR. UM, AND SO I KNOW WE SERVE THE YOUNGER ADULTS, WHICH IS BETWEEN LIKE 13 AND 23. UM, SOME OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE SEE IS IT'S VERY GENERATIONAL. IT BECOMES WHERE THEY HAVE NO PARENTS IT'S ABUSE OR, UM, THEY ARE AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE. AND SO THERE'S NO ONE TO HELP THEM. AND SO IT IT'S A CYCLE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE THAT IS IMPACTING THE YOUTH IS GIVING THEM RESOURCES AND GIVING THEM THE SUPPORT THEY NEED, CONNECTING THEM WITH COUNSELORS, MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, UM, HAVING A RIGHT PLAN TO MAKE AN IMPACT FOR THEM. UM, FOR SURE, I BELIEVE THAT IF THIS IS PASSED, IT WOULD, IT WOULD, UM, REALLY FEEL OUR GELS WHERE THERE'S NOT ANY PLACE TO BRING THEM AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS OUR COMMUNITY BEING ABLE TO GIVE THEM WORK, GIVE THEM PURPOSE. LIKE IT COULD BE SIMPLE THINGS, UM, BEING ABLE TO CLEAN THE SHELTERS OR HELP FIXING IN THE FOOD, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A PURPOSE. UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S KINDA MY VIEWPOINT ON IT. UM, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM, AS A COMMUNITY, WE COULD COME UP WITH THE RIGHT, UM, THE RIGHT IDEA AND THE PLACE TO PLACE THEM. [00:30:03] YEAH. THANK YOU. MA'AM ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK RIGHT ON MAYBE SEVEN. SOMEBODY COMING. OKAY. HELLO. UM, SO I'M JUST A STUDENT. I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE A LOT OF AUTHORITY TO COME SPEAK HERE. MY NAME IS SAKI SHEFFIELD, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, A FEW THINGS. ONE USE KINDS OF ORDINANCES HAVE BEEN PASSED BEFORE IN MANY OTHER CITIES FROM 2006 TO 2019, THE NATIONAL HOMELESSNESS LAW CENTER ACTUALLY TRACKED THESE TYPE OF POLICIES IN 187 CITIES AND FOUND THAT THESE BANDS ON CAMPING HAVE ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, INCREASED SITTING IN LINE OF HOMELESS PERSONS BY 78% ORDERING BY 103% AND HANDLING BY 103% AND LIVING IN VEHICLES BY 213%. SO OBVIOUSLY THE ADJUSTMENT OF ENCAMPMENTS IS EXCELLENT. I'M GLAD THAT THE COUNCIL HAS DECIDED TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THESE TYPES OF BANDS, UH, ARE EFFECTIVE. SO I IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE, WHEN WE HAVEN'T KITTENS IN OUR CITY, IT'S BECAUSE WE AS A CITY HAVE FAILED TO GIVEN THEM AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING. SO THESE ARE NOT CRIMINALS. THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO LIVE ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THESE ARE OUR VETERANS. THESE ARE OUR SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL. YOU STARTED JUST ABLED. YOU START OUR TROUBLED YOUTH. YOU STARTED THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR POPULATION. AND I HOPE THAT YOU OPEN YOUR HEARTS AND REALIZE THAT THESE PEOPLE COULD BE ANYONE LIKE WAS SAID BEFORE. THESE ARE OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR FAMILY, OUR FRIENDS, AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN INSTEAD FIND ALTERNATIVE METHODS TO PROVIDE THEM HOUSING RATHER THAN CRIMINALIZING THE ONLY HOME THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND IN THE CITY. THANK YOU, SON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE COMING ANYWHERE ELSE WE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM NOW I GO TO COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS. I DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH, UM, WITH ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SPOKEN WOULD CAUTION AS IT RELATES TO THIS ITEM. IT BASICALLY HAS THE SAME SENTIMENTS TO ME WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, WHEN I, WHEN I ADDRESSED NOT ONLY CRIME, BUT ALSO, UM, ANYTHING THAT DEALS WITH ADJUDICATED YOUTH AND THE LAST SPEAKER W YOU KNOW, W WHERE THE LAW, ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT TALK ABOUT AS HAVING COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS, AS IT RELATES TO POPULAR POPULATIONS THAT ARE MOST DIFFICULT. I, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE AREN'T, WE HAVEN'T, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OUT OF ORDER, BUT WE HAVE INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WHERE WE ARE DOUBLING THE BUDGET FOR A NONPROFIT THAT YES, DOES GOOD WORK, BUT IT DOES NOT DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY, BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE A PERSPECTIVE AS IT RELATES TO TEENAGERS. UM, HAVING WORKED, BECAUSE I WORKED FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF HOMELESS YOUTH THAT WILL NEVER APPLY, UM, PROBABLY FOR ONE OR OUR, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR'S YOUTH PROGRAM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE STABILITY TO SUPPORT. AND UNTIL WE BEGIN TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT DEALING WITH YOUTH THAT HAVE BEEN ADJUDICATED YOUTH THAT ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH WHAT I CALL THE ABCS, UM, ATTENDANCE, BEHAVIOR, AND COURSEWORK, UNTIL WE START DEALING WITH OUR HOMELESS TEENS, INSTEAD OF JUST WITH A WIDE BRUSH, JUST SAYING, OH, WE HAVE A YOUTH PROGRAM. WE HAVE A YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. UM, IT'S NOTHING IS GONNA CHANGE. WE COULD TALK DATA ALL DAY ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE COME TO MANY OF THE PROGRAMS, UM, THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING THE YOUTH WORKFORCE. IT DOES HAVE ITS PLACE, BUT WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO JUST DUMP ALL MONEY INTO THESE PROGRAMS THAT WE, THAT NEVER HIT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO MOST NEEDED THOSE THAT WE COULDN'T TRACK FROM K TO 12, 12, THAT ARE FILLING UP OUR PRISON SYSTEMS. WE JUST, WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE, WE'RE FOOLING OURSELVES. IT'S NOT WORKING. AND WE HAVE TO BE HONEST THAT IT'S NOT WORKING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS, UM, PROGRAM I WORK WITH, AND IT'S, IT'S LIKE ADULT SUMMER SCHOOL, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THE KIDS GET OFF THE STREET. IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THE FOUNDER'S NOT GOING TO HELP. UM, THE DOUBLE HOUSE KIDS THAT WOULD HAVE NOT GOING TO HELP THE ONES THAT ARE YOUTH OASIS, NOT GOING TO HELP THE ONES THAT ARE JUVENILE DETENTION. AND UNTIL WE STOP [00:35:01] GETTING GIVEN AWAY MONEY TO THE EASY TAKERS THAT WANT TO JUST HIRE A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, UM, PROGRAM ADVISERS AND TWO TIMES SESSIONS AND CERTIFIED THEM AND SUCCESS PROGRAM THAT DOES NOT DO A DOGGONE THING. THAT'S, THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT. AND FOLKS COULD GET MAD. EVERYBODY COULD GET MAD, THAT'S JUST DIPPING OUT MONEY FOR NOTHING. AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE, THIS ADMINISTRATION IS GETTING LIKE OUR LAST, WHERE WE CAPITALIZING ON GRANTS THAT CATER TO FAILURE. THE MORE, THE WORST WE LOOK IN YOUTH VIOLENCE, CRIME ON THE STREET, TRAUMA RESILIENT, THE MORE GRANT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE UNPROVEN, THAT IS NOT HOW YOU CHANGE THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M JUST, I'M QUITE FRANKLY, I'M SICK OF IT. IT'S BEEN HAPPENING EIGHT YEARS AND WE NEED TO STOP DOING THE SAME THINGS. CAUSE IT'S GETTING WORSE EVERY YEAR. AND THAT'S OUR FAULT BECAUSE WE WANT TO LOOK, LOOK, WE WANT TO ACT LIKE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING AND TAUGHT THIS PROGRAM A GOOD FANCY NAMES TO, UH, SUMMER PROGRAMS. AND IT AIN'T ABOUT NOTHING. I'LL HAVE MY OTHER COMMENTS NEXT WEEK, TWO WEEKS. OKAY. COUNCILOR BANKS, ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DID THEIR MOTION TO COUNCIL NUMBER HUDSON. YEAH. I JUST REALLY BRIEFLY WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT AND SPOKE ON THE ITEM. UH, I'M GLAD THAT THIS ITEM HAS BEEN A CATALYST FOR US TO START TALKING ABOUT THIS AS A COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS INTERESTED IN SPONSORING THIS, UH, IS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A DISPARITY OF TREATMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT HAPPENS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, WHAT HAPPENS FOR US AS A MUNICIPALITY IS THAT WE WILL CITE THAT PROPERTY OWNER. UH, AND UNTIL WE GETS CLEANED UP, WE'LL EVEN GO TAKE THEM THROUGH THE RIGHT PROCESS AND FIND THEM AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DO ALL SORTS OF STUFF. UH, BUT WE DON'T TREAT OURSELVES TO THE SAME STANDARD, WHATEVER, UH, ENCAMPMENT AND ULTIMATELY BRIGHT HAPPENS IN OUR OWN. RIGHT-OF-WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT OF WAY EXISTS. UH, FOR MANY THINGS, IT SERVES MANY FUNCTIONS, UM, UTILITY SERVICES, UH, ROAD EXPANSIONS, THAT SORT OF THING. UH, BUT IT IS REALLY AN UNSAFE PLACE, UH, TO HAVE ENCAMPMENTS. UM, AND SO THIS IS A QUALITY OF PLACE ITEM. UH, IT'S A SAFETY ITEM, UM, UH, BUT IT'S ALSO MEANT TO BE AN ITEM THAT CAN HELP DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE SERVICES. NOW I REALIZED I MAY GET SOME CHUCKLES IF I SAY THAT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT IS MEANT TO BE COMPASSIONATE AND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO SEEK THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION. I DO THINK THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE CLEANUP THAT WE NEED TO DO. WE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT CHANGING SOME OF THE PENALTY PROVISIONS, UH, AND CLARIFYING SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE THAT WILL HELP DRIVE PEOPLE TO SERVICES. UM, BUT ULTIMATELY I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED. UM, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION AS MUNICIPALITY TO PRESENT OUR RIGHT OF WAY IN A SAFE AND CLEAN MANNER. AND SO, UH, I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL WILL WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT GOAL. A MOTION TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS. MOST OF THE DIFFER FOR 30 DAYS, SEVEN OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HERTZ, IS THERE A COUNCIL IN MOROCCO? UM, I'M SO COMPLETELY TORN THIS ITEM. AND I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LEGAL OPINION ON IT. SO IF THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COULD COME UP, BUT WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP HERE, I, I AGREE WITH SO MUCH THAT WAS SAID, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SOME POINT PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND THE THINGS AROUND THEM. UM, IF, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS A PURPOSE, THEN THEY NEED TO GO AND FIND THEIR PURPOSE IF SOME MONEY. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY SITTING UP HERE WITH MY HOUSE, MY HOME AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS, IS THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO THAT FOR YOU. UM, WE HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE. WE HAVE THINGS IN PLACE AND THERE HAS TO BE SOME SELF ACCOUNTABILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INFRINGES ON THE RIGHTS OF OTHER CITIZENS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE PUBLIC WRITEAWAYS WAS SEVERAL CLEANUP COMPANIES THAT VOLUNTEERS THAT VOLUNTEERED TO GO OUT AND CLEAN UP. THESE WRITEAWAYS THERE, THEY HAVE HEROIN NEEDLES OR NE NEEDLES STREWN ABOUT IN THESE AREAS THAT KIDS GET ON AT BUS STOPS, OR THEY GET OFF THE BUS STOPS. UM, THE TRASH IS THROWN EVERYWHERE. THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD FOR A CHILD TO GO AND PICK UP A HEROIN NEEDLE OR WHATEVER KIND OF NEEDLE IT IS FOR WHATEVER KIND OF DRUG THAT'S ALARMING TO ME, IT BOTHERS ME AND EVERYONE DESERVES A RIGHT TO BE SAFE IN THEIR [00:40:01] CITY. UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CRIMINALIZATION AND WHAT THIS ARTICLE DOES. AND IT'S ALSO ALARMING TO ME THAT BRP ESSENTIALLY SAYS, PASS YOUR ORDINANCE, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE IT. UM, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I GOT FROM THAT REPRESENTATIVE. SO COURTNEY, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME, UM, WITH REGARDS TO CONSTITUTIONALITY, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? ARE SOMEONE MENTIONED AT THE MICROPHONE, UM, POTENTIAL LAWSUIT, POTENTIAL LITIGATION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE OR WITH ANY PARTICULAR AMENDMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE? HOW DOES THAT, WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THAT AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE PLEASE? SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE NINTH CIRCUIT HAS ALREADY RULED THAT, UM, ORDINANCES THAT, UH, ATTEMPT TO, UM, BAN PUBLIC CAMPING IS UNCONSCIOUS OR UNCONSTITUTIONAL, AND IT'S A VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS UNDER THE EIGHTH AMENDMENT AND THE FOURTH AMENDS. OKAY. AND SO FOR THE LAY PERSON IN THIS ROOM, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IS THE NICE CIRCUIT AND HOW DOES THAT APPLY HERE IN THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO THE NINTH CIRCUIT IS A FEDERAL COURT IS THE CIRCUIT RIGHT BELOW THE SUPREME COURT, OUR CIRCUIT AND THE NINTH CIRCUIT, UM, IS, ARE THE, IS THE FEDERAL COURT THAT, UM, THE JURISDICTION OF THOSE STATES. SO THE STATES THAT ARE UNDER THAT JURISDICTION IS GOING TO BE ALASKA, ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA, HAWAII, AND GUAM. AND SO UNDER THE LOUISIANA IS UNDER THE FIFTH CIRCUIT. SO THE FIFTH CIRCUIT OR THE STATES THAT WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, WHICH IS TEXAS, LOUISIANA, ALABAMA, GEORGIA, AND FLORIDA. UM, HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO FEDERAL CIRCUITS, THE NINTH AND THE FIFTH, YOU CAN KIND OF CONSIDER THOSE AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BROTHERS. SO THOSE CIRCUITS ON THAT FEDERAL LEVEL, THEY LOOK TO EACH OTHER TO SEE WHAT EACH OTHER IS RULING ON ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THE FIFTH CIRCUIT. UM, WE JUST DON'T HAVE NOT HAD A CASE YET, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT TO SAY THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ONE YET, UH, OF THIS TYPE. NOW THERE IS, UH, THERE IS, UH, A CASE THAT COMES OUT OF SLIDE DELL, UM, THAT ATTEMPTED TO BAN PANHANDLING AND PANHANDLING IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. AND SO THAT'S SLIDE BELT ORDINANCE, UM, ENDED UP GETTING OVERTURNED AND, AND DEEMED INVALID. UM, THIS IS OF THAT SAME NATURE. UH, THIS IS NOT A PANHANDLING ORDINANCE, UH, BUT IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT TRIES TO, UH, CURB BEHAVIOR, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT THE COURT DEEMS A HUMAN CONDITION. A HUMAN CONDITION IS WHEN A HUMAN WANTS TO SIT DOWN, LIE DOWN, YOU KNOW, OR TAKE A REST. AND SO THE COURTS HAVE BASICALLY STATED THAT'S WHAT HUMANS WANT TO DO. AND THE FACT THAT, UH, MUNICIPALITIES SEEK TO CRIMINALIZE THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW. OKAY. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M GATHERING IS THERE'S NO PRECEDENT OTHER THAN IN THE NINTH CIRCUIT CURRENTLY. NOW THERE HEAD IS THE PRECEDENT AND THAT'S WHAT OTHER STATES HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT. RIGHT. BUT NONE HERE AND IN THE FIFTH CIRCUIT, OTHER THAN THAT, TEXAS HAS TEXAS, HAS THEY HAVE, AT ONE POINT AUSTIN, TEXAS DID WHEN MARTIN V BOISE IS THE CASE THAT'S PRESIDING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT KIND OF LIKE WOULD STATES AROUND THE ENTIRE COUNTRY HAS LOOKED AT MARTIN V BOYS AND THEN SAID, OKAY, WE DON'T WANT TO END UP LIKE THAT. THEY ENDED UP IN LITIGATION FOR 12 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO TAKE THAT ON EITHER. AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY ENDED UP ENTERING INTO A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR SETTLEMENT. UM, AND SO OTHER STATES HAVE LOOKED AT THAT AND SAID, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. LET'S TRY TO FIND ANOTHER WAY. UM, TEXAS IS A STATE THAT ACTUALLY ENDED UP LOOKING AT MARTIN DE BOISE AS WELL, AUSTIN IN PARTICULAR. AND SO THEY ENDED UP REPEALING THEIR ORDINANCE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND THEN THEY JUST RECENTLY LAST SUMMER REENACTED THE PUBLIC CAMPING THING. GOT IT. OKAY. SO IN, IN YOUR LEGAL RESEARCH GOING THROUGH, AND I KNOW LOOKING THROUGH ALL THESE CASES, SEARCHING ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, IT GETS PRETTY HEAVY. DID YOU, DID YOU FIND ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A BETTER FIT WITHOUT THE EXPOSURE? UM, LEGALLY SPEAKING FOR THE CITY ORDINANCE WISE ORDINANCE WISE? NO, BECAUSE WHAT LAWS SEEK TO DO IS TO BASICALLY PUNISH THAT'S THE POINT OF A LAW. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND MANY LAWS, IF ANY, THAT, YOU KNOW, STATE THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO DO SOMETHING, AND THERE'S NO PUNISHMENT TO IT BECAUSE THE POINT IS, IS TO PUNISH. AND SO WHERE THESE LAWS ARE CONCERNED, UM, THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUNISH SOMEBODY'S BODY FOR BEING POOR. AND THAT'S WHAT THE COURTS WERE SAYING. YOU, [00:45:01] YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU SH YOU SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT. NOW, HAVING SAID THAT STATES THERE ARE STATES THAT ARE DOING IT. UM, AND SO COUNSEL WOMAN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF THERE IS ANYTHING BETTER, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE ROUND THAT YOU'RE WORKING IN BECAUSE A LAW SHOULDN'T BE PUNISHING SOMEBODY FOR BEING INDIGENT. SO WHAT, WHAT THE, WELL, WE HAVE SOUGHT TO DO WHAT I THINK, WHICH IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PUT IN PRACTICE RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE MAYOR'S HOT TEAM IS TO TRY TO FIND ANOTHER AVENUE THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE PUNISHING SOMEONE. OKAY. AND SO I, SO PUNISHMENT IS THE NAME OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, BUT THE REALITY OF HAVING A PUNISHMENT IS TO DETER THE BEHAVIOR OR ACTIVITY THAT'S OCCURRING. SO PERHAPS THE BETTER QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DETERRENT, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM BR PD THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR, THEY DON'T INTEND TO, OR THEY DON'T THINK THAT THE PRISON OR THE COURT HAD THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. UM, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM AS THOUGH THEY WANT TO ENFORCE IT. SO BASED UPON THEIR STATEMENTS, THE DETERRENT FACTOR IS NOW GONE, WHICH VITIATE THE ENTIRE REASON FOR HAVING THIS ORDINANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO I THINK WE GET BACK TO SQUARE. ONE OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO DETER THE BEHAVIOR AND KEEP THE BEHAVIOR FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT. BUT WE, WE DON'T HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM FOR THE DETERRENCE. SO I, I AGREE WITH THE DEFERRAL. I THINK A LOT OF, A LOT OF INFORMATION AND RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE DONE. THERE NEEDS TO BE DETERRENCE FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. AND WHETHER THAT COMES IN THE FORM OF MORE SHELTERS, UM, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. BUT ALARMING TO ME WAS THE REALITY. WHENEVER I TURNED ON THE NEWS AND I SAW A COUPLE SAY, HEY, WE'RE COMING TO LOUISIANA, WE'RE COMING TO BATON ROUGE BECAUSE WE HERE IS REALLY GOOD PLACE FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE TO BAY. AND THAT'S WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS, BUT IF THERE ISN'T A FACTOR THAT DETERS, OR THERE ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S HELPFUL, THEN WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE IN FIVE TO 10 YEARS? YEAH. AND I THINK THAT THE PROGRAM THAT'S IN PLACE NOW BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICES IS HELPFUL. IT'S NOT A DETERRENT BECAUSE AGAIN, DETERRING SOMEONE FROM HOMELESS IS TO HELP THEM. RIGHT. BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO DETER SOMEONE FROM BEING HOMELESS. I WOULD, IT, THE AIM OF THIS ORDINANCE, I THINK HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN WASHED OUT BY THE HOMELESS ELEMENT, WHICH I AGREE IS AN ELEMENT OF THIS. BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS YOU CAN BE HOMELESS ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOU CAN'T PITCH A TENT NEXT TO A BUS STOP AND THROW YOUR HEROIN NEEDLES OUT THE SIDE. AND THE TENT IN THE PUBLIC PUBLIC AREAS IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE FOCUS HAS, HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. IT'S, IT'S PLACING, IT'S HAVING THESE ENCAMPMENTS IN AREAS LIKE ON, OUT ON COLLEGE DRIVE BEHIND ALBERTSON. UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE CHILDREN ARE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE SIDEWALKS, AND THEY HAVE BUGGIES FULL OF HOMELESS MATERIAL WITH DRUGS AND OTHER PARAPHERNALIA BEING THROWN ABOUT. SO THAT, THAT'S MY IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE HOMELESS, AND I KNOW THAT THEY GO HAND IN HAND, BUT IT'S THE ENCAMPMENTS, THE, AND THE LITTER AND THE STUFF THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, THAT'S CREATING THE ISSUES IN MY OPINION. YEAH. I THINK THAT IF THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, AS, YOU KNOW, BEING A FORMER PROSECUTOR, THERE'S A LAW AGAINST THAT AGAINST DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM BEING HOMELESS. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A CASE BY CASE THING. I JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE, UH, THIS IDEA THAT IF YOU'RE HOMELESS, YOU'RE ON DRUGS, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES HAPPENING. AND I THINK THAT WHEN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, UH, DUSTIN, DPS DPW OUT THERE TO CLEAN UP THAT, THAT, I THINK THAT GOES TO THE HEART OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT IT BEING A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PUBLIC SPACE SPACES ARE CLEAN. UM, FOR SURE. UM, AND SO WHEN THEY GO OUT THERE TO DO THOSE, UH, THOSE CLEANUPS, THEY DO TAKE CARE OF, DO YOU KNOW, WATCH OUT FOR DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. I THINK THAT THEY ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THE RPD, UM, REPRESENTATIVE. SO THAT OFFICERS RATHER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES ARE, ARE ADDRESSED. COUNCIL MEMBER. I SHOULD TIME. THANK YOU, COURTNEY, UH, COUNSELING BARS. UH, [00:50:01] CO-HEAD ON NAVY. UH, SO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU DON'T, UH, I DON'T KNOW. YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN GO HAVE A SEAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO. ABSOLUTELY. UM, SO HERE'S THE DEAL. WHEN I SEE A HOME, YOU CAN CALL, WE CAN CALL IT WHAT WE WANT. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A HOME ORDINANCE, RIGHT? PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD AND THEY WANT TO CALL IT OTHER THINGS, BUT IT'S BASICALLY HOMELESS ORDINANCE, RIGHT? I CAN'T STOP IT FROM BEING HAMLIN. I CAN'T STOP YOU FROM CAMPING OUT SOMEWHERE. AND SO I DO THIS BECAUSE NONE OF US REALLY WANT TO SEE HOMELESS PEOPLE, HOMELESS. NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, NONE OF US WANT TO BE BOOKED BY A PANHANDLER AT A RED LIGHT. NONE OF US WANT TO SEE TRUE TENTS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADS. LET ME BE CLEAR. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF TENTS ON SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY ON THE RIGHT OF WAY OR IN THE BACKYARD OR WHEREVER, RIGHT? AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF FINDING PRIVATE CITIZENS FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE CAMPING OUT ON THEIR PROPERTY EITHER. SO LET ME MAKE THAT CLEAR, BUT I AM IN FAVOR FOR, IS FINDING A SOLUTION. AND SO THAT SOLUTION HAS VERY DIFFERENT APPEALS DEPENDING ON THAT INDIVIDUAL. ALL RIGHT. WE TALKED ABOUT YOUTH, WE TALKED ABOUT VETERANS PTSD. UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, PEOPLE WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES AND MENTAL HEALTH. SO I WILL TELL YOU ALL A PERSONAL STORY. SO MY WIFE'S MOTHER PASSED IN 2018. SHE WENT INTO A DEPRESSION. I WENT INTO A DEPRESSION. I LIVED OFF MY LIFE SAVINGS FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT I WAS MENTALLY INCAPACITATED FROM WORKING DAY TO DAY, WATCHING HER GO DOWN FROM THE TRAUMA THAT WE DON'T. I MEAN, IT STILL TOUCHES US. RIGHT, BUT HAD I NOT BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE IN A SITUATION I WAS IN, I TALKED TO LORI ABOUT IT. I RUN THROUGH ALL OF MY MONEY THAT I SAVED, AND I WAS PROBABLY A MONTH AWAY FROM BEING WHERE THEY ARE. SO WHEN I TELL YOU THIS STORY, I'M SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, NONE OF MY BUSINESS WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO REBOUND VERY FAST AND BE AN ENTREPRENEUR, GET MYSELF BACK ON MY FEET, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN LIVE TWO AND A HALF YEARS WHERE I WORKED AT NOT MANY. ALRIGHT. AND I'LL TELL YOU MORE RECENT STORY. LAST WEEK, LAST MONDAY, BRIAN IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH MY STORY. SO I GO WHEN WE MEET THIS KID, SO I GO TO TOOL TIME AT LRC. AND WHILE WE'RE AT TOOL TIME AT LRC, WITH THESE AMAZING KIDS THAT I GOT FROM THE MAYOR'S YOUTH WORKFORCE AND THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, THAT PROGRAM IS WORKING BECAUSE THOSE KIDS ARE SITTING RIGHT THERE INSTEAD OF BEING IN THE STREETS. SO LET ME SAY THAT. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THERE WAS A KID THAT WALKED UP, THEY SAID, HEY, I'M LOOKING FOR A WELDING CLASS. IT WAS LIKE A WELDING CLASS, MAN. THIS IS LRC. SEE HOW OLD ARE YOU? HE SAID, I'M 18, 19, 18 AND 19. I SAID, WELL, MAYBE HE FITS INTO THIS, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE DOING WELDING THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. AND, UM, HE SAID, NO, MAN, I'M LOOKING FOR, CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM. HE SAID, BUT IT'S A LOB DALE. I SAID, MAN, YOU ARE AT, UH, LRC, E LAUTERDALE WALKING IS PROBABLY 30 MINUTES, 45 MINUTES AWAY. SO I DROPPED MY SON OFF AND DID CAUSE HE'S A PART OF THAT PROGRAM AS WELL. AND IT'S WORKING FOR HIM TOO. UM, AND I TOOK THE KID TO BRCC AT ARRENDALE CAUSE I FIGURED I SAID IT HAS TO BE HARD. AND DALE NEVER TOLD ME ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. SO BY THE END OF THE DAY, FOUND OUT HE WAS HOMELESS AT 18 YEARS OLD BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN ABUSED IN HIS OWN, FOUND OUT THAT, UM, HE WAS LOVED SOME NIGHTS STAYING WITH HIS AUNT, SOME NIGHTS, SLEEPING ON THE STREET IN A TENT AND PUBLIC SPACE, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE MY WIFE TOOK HIM TO THE TENT TO GET THE REST OF HIS CLOTHES OUT OF HIS TENT BECAUSE HE WAS, IF IT WAS UP TO US, HE WOULD SPEND NO MORE NIGHTS ON THIS TRIP. SO WHAT WE DID WAS FOUND ONE OF THE PROGRAMS AS BROKEN AND NOT WORKING. AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET HIM A PLACE TO SLEEP THAT NIGHT AT HIS CHOICE, WE WERE ABLE TO GO TO THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT WORKING AND FIND HIM A JOB. BY THE END OF THE DAY THROUGH A BOARD YARD, WE'RE ABLE TO GO TO A PROGRAM AT BRCC. THAT'S NOT WORKING AND GET HIM A ROLE IN SCHOOLS IN THE WELDING PROGRAMS. CAN I BE ONE MOTHER FIVE MINUTES? AND UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOMELESS, WE TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CRIMINALIZING AN 18 YEAR OLD FOR BEING ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, AND BY THE WAY, I DID CALL CHRISTIAN OUTREACH WITH BRIAN. I DID WORK WITH HIS TEAM. WE GOT HIM SERVICES THROUGH THE CHRISTIAN OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT GETS FUNNY. THAT'S NOT WORKING. AND WE WENT TO THE PURPLE COW AND GOT HIM FREE CLOTHES TO MAKE SURE THAT HE APPLIED WHEN HE WENT TO THAT JOB. SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT CHALLENGES IN THE COMMUNITY? WE ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES THROUGH SOLUTIONS BECAUSE WE HAD RESOURCES THAT I WAS ABLE TO GO TO, TO ADDRESS THESE HOMELESS NEEDS. OKAY. AND, UM, THAT SAME KID WHO, BY THURSDAY, [00:55:01] I TAKE THEM TO CLINICAL TASK SCHOOL THREE TIMES FOR HIS WELDING PROGRAM WHERE HE CALLED ME TO PICK HIM UP IN THE MORNING. THIS IS NOT A BRAG AND IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. IT LITERALLY JUST HIT ME SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW. BUT I JUST HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE LAST WEEK FOR A KID IN THE TENT AND A RIGHT OF WAY. AND BRIAN AND HIS GROUP HELPED ME GET HIM OUT OF THERE RIGHT AWAY. BUT GUESS WHAT? COUPLE DAYS LATER I WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF CELL PHONE NUMBERS. THINGS DIDN'T HAPPEN, RIGHT? UH, TOUCH BASE WITH HIM ON FRIDAY. DIDN'T TOUCH BASE WITH THEM ON THURSDAY. WE'RE TRYING TO GET HIM BACK IN THERE, BUT I STILL WOULDN'T PICK HIS MOM UP AND TOOK HIS MOM SOMEWHERE WHO DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO COME SLEEP IN THE HOUSE WITH HER. SO THERE ARE SITUATIONS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE A FATHOM BECAUSE OF OUR GREAT, AMAZING HOME LIVES THAT WE HAVE. AND WE CAN'T ALWAYS FEEL WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT FACED THOSE ISSUES PERSONALLY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ONE-STOP, I'M ACTUALLY TAKING THAT SAME MODEL AND TRYING TO USE IT FOR, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ALL BEDROOMS, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN BRINGING ALL THE RESOURCES UNDER ONE ROOF, RIGHT? FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAS SOMETHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS, AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING, I WANT THEM TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT DOES WORK, NOT JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT'S NOT WORKING BECAUSE HERE'S ONE THING TO BE A PART OF THE PROBLEM. CAUSE ANOTHER THING TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION AND COMPLAINANT IS BEING A PART OF THE PROBLEM. I FIND THEM SOMETHING TO DO. THAT'S SUSTAINABLE AS BEING A PART OF THE SOLUTION. SO NOBODY I'M OPEN TO TALK TO ANYONE THAT WOULD WANT TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. UM, AND THE FINAL THING THAT I WILL SAY IS THAT CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS, CAUSE WE WOULD CALL IT WHAT YOU SAY. IT CAN'T MEET WHATEVER IS CRIMINALIZED. SOMEBODY WHO HAS LACK OF RESOURCES, HIS ASS IN HIGH. THAT'S MY OPINION OF IT. AND THE WHOLE PART OF THE ORDINANCE, BECAUSE WE TALKED LAURA AND I TALKED ALL DAY LONG. I DON'T WANT HOMELESSNESS. I DON'T WANT TENTS IN MY CITY IF I DON'T HAVE THEM. RIGHT. I WANT EVERYBODY WITH A HOME, BUT HOW WE, HOW DO WE CRIMINALIZE SOMEBODY FOR DOING THAT? AND FIRST OF ALL, HOW DO WE SEND THEM TO THIS RAGGEDY PRISON WITH MILDEW MOLD? AND AS BEST AS THAT, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW THAT I'VE SHOWED PICTURES TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR MY FIRST WEEK IN OFFICE. THE ONLY REASON I HAVEN'T BUMPED IT IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE PEOPLE WOULD GO. RIGHT. BUT IT IS DEPLORABLE. NOW DO WE NEED A PRISON? YES. DO WE NEED MORE RESOURCES IN THERE FOR REENTRY AND NOT NECESSARILY FOR, FOR JAIL TIME? ABSOLUTELY. BUT IT IS DEPLORABLE. SO WHY WOULD I SEND A HOMELESS PERSON WHO HAS GREAT FRESH AIR ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO GO BREATHE IN AS BEST AS NO DUDE IN MOLD, I'M NOT GOING TO DO AN ASK. AND MY COLLEAGUES DON'T DO IT EITHER BEFORE THEY SIGN OFF ON THIS TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF CRIMINALIZATION, GO WALK THE EBR PRISON AND SEE IF YOU WANT YOUR DOG SLEEPING THERE AT NIGHTTIME. AND THAT'S MY 2 CENTS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT A COUNCILMAN, UM, PER SE IT IS EXACTLY WHY I'M COMPLAINING THE KIDS THAT WE SEE EVERY DAY. THEY DON'T HAVE A COUNCILMAN HERS AND HIS WIFE. AND THE REASON WHY THEY DON'T HAVE ONE IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY IN THAT AREA BECAUSE I WORKED FOR THE CITY AND HAVE THESE RESOURCES BECAUSE I WORKED FOR CHILD PROTECTION AND ALL THESE OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES PROGRAMS. I'M ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING EVERY DAY AT MY SCHOOL. THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT THAT'S NOT THE MASSES. THERE'S NOTHING SYSTEMATIC. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE GET DOWN TO NUMBER 52 ON PAGE 13 TO DO A, GIVE A SOLUTION, BUT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME MONEY THAT WE SUPPOSED TO GIVE AWAY NEXT WEEK THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE TO THE FENCE PROGRAM TONIGHT, FAMILY NEEDLE, STEREOTYPES. OKAY. SO WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IT'S NOT JUST WHAT THEY JUST, WHAT I THINK IT, MS. MERKIN'S MURKY TALE. IS THAT HER NAME MARK IN TOWN. IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SERVICES. HALF THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES THAT NEED THEM. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET, I DON'T KNOW THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN, BUT I BET YOU 5 MILLION. I GOT $5 MILLION ZACK, A BED THAT IF I ASKED THEM, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A JOB WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TODAY, WOULD YOU BE ON THE STREET? RAISE YOUR HAND IF Y'ALL WOULD BE ON THE STREET, IF Y'ALL DIDN'T HAVE THE JOB TODAY. MY POINT, EXACTLY MY POINT. EXACTLY. SO IT'S NOT THAT I'M SAYING THAT DOESN'T WORK. I'M SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CASE MANAGEMENT FOR OUR YOUTH AND FOR OUR FAMILIES, THAT COUNCILMAN HERTZ JUST GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS WE HAVE PARENTS HERE. DON'T TALK TO KIDS, WAIT, THIS IS NOT A POLICE ADVOCACY. YOU KNOW, SO [01:00:01] YEAH. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH, DON'T INTERRUPT ME. SO YEAH. UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S NOT THAT WE, WE GONNA COME TOGETHER AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THINGS TOGETHER. WE CAN'T GET OFFENDED WHEN WE TELL THE TRUTH. WHEN I'M OUT THERE EVERY DAY, REVEREND ALEXANDER IS OUT THERE EVERY DAY. THE GENTLEMEN OVER THERE, THEY'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY. I KNOW PEOPLE WHO GET MONEY FROM OUR CITY WORKING, YOU KNOCKING ON DOORS AND THEY EVEN, BUT THEY CAN'T EVEN SAY IS NOT WORKING CAUSE THEY GOT A CONTRACT. SO WE NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE HONEST AND TALK ABOUT IT'S NOT WORKING BECAUSE WE WANT TO SHOUT AND PRAISE FOLKS WHEN KIDS DYING AND THEIR FAMILIES DYING. AND I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M SCHEDULING CHILDREN ON MONDAY AND THEY DEAD ON TUESDAY. THAT'S MY REALITY THAT I'M HAVING CHILDREN WHO HAVE A'S AND B'S, AND THEN THEY COME BACK ON THE BREAK BECAUSE THEIR MAMA TOOK A PILL THAT WAS LACED. AND SHE DID. THAT'S WHAT I'M DEALING WITH EVERY DAY, SIGNED A TIME TO PLAY. THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO PLAY. I'M NOT OUT HERE TO SHOWCASE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT I'M DOING EVERY DAY. I'M NOT HERE TO DO THAT. I'M HERE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT'S KILLING OUR COMMUNITY. THEY DON'T KNOW. AND YOU COULD PUT BILLBOARDS AND EVERYTHING. I'LL TELL A PARENT SOMETHING AND IT'S BECAUSE OF TRAUMA. SO I'LL TELL THEM STEPS ON HOW TO GET SERVICES. BUT BECAUSE OF TRAUMA. IT CAN'T EVEN RECEIVE IT. THEY CAN'T EVEN CATCH IT. I SAID IN THREE AND FOUR TIMES I WRITE IT DOWN AND I SAY, DID YOU GO? AND THEY'LL SAY, NO, I JUST COULDN'T DO IT. THAT'S TRAUMA FOLKS. IT'S PEOPLE NEED HANDHOLDING TO GET TO THIS STUFF. YEAH. THE RESOURCES OUT THERE, BUT THEY CAN'T GET TO THEM. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THEM. AND EVEN IF YOU TELL THEM THEY STILL NEED HELP. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT. SO WE COULD GET MAD AND OFFENDED AND ALL THAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT AIN'T ABOUT NOTHING. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. SO IF I CAN'T COME TO COUNCIL MEETING AND SAY THAT THE MONEY THAT WE SHUFFLING OUT IS NOT WORKING AND IT'S NOT HITTING THE PEOPLE, NOT THAT THROWING EVERYTHING AWAY, NOT SAYING NONE OF THESE EIGHT, THANK GOD THOSE THEY'RE THERE, BUT I'M TELLING YOU THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING TO THE ONES THAT DIDN'T NEED IT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S NOT A GOOD PRACTICE TO TALK TO CHILDREN AND OUR CHAMBER WHEN THEIR PARENTS ARE NOT THERE TO, HEY SHAUNA, I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU AS MY TIME TO TALK. SO LET ME MAKE MY COMMENTS. IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO TALK TO CHILDREN WHEN THEIR PARENTS ARE NOT PRECIPITATING. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM COUNCIL LEVEL MODE? THANK YOU. UH, SORRY. I'M SO FAR DOWN THE LIST WITH THESE QUESTIONS, BUT MY REQUEST TO SPEAK WAS NOT WORKING AT THE MOMENT. UH, COURTNEY, COULD YOU COME UP? THANK YOU. SO YOU MENTIONED A WHILE AGO, IT'S A VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO REFUSE FOR CITIZENS TO PITCH A TENT ON PUBLIC PROPERTY AND LIVE IS THAT IT'S A, IT'S A VIOLATION OF THEIR RIGHTS. IF WE PASS AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE THEM TO GO TO, IF HIS AVAILABILITY IS THERE TO REQUIRE THEM TO GO TO A SHELTER AND USE THE GUIDANCE AND RESOURCES THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING, IT IS A CONSTITUTE VIOLATION OF THEIR RIGHTS TO REQUIRE THEM TO DO THAT. NO. OKAY. SO IT'S A VIOLATION FROM THE COURT. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT, WHAT THE COURT IN THE NINTH CIRCUIT HAS STATED THAT IT'S A VIOLATION OF SOMEONE'S CONSTITUTIONAL, RIGHT? IF YOU, IF YOU ARE PUNISHING SOMEONE FOR AN INVOLUNTARY ACT OR CONDITION, IF IT IS THE UNAVOIDABLE CONSEQUENCE OF ONE STATUS OR BEING [01:05:01] OKAY FROM A, FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IS REPHRASE WHAT YOU SAID. JUST THERE. I'M SORRY. I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT IF IT'S AN INVOLUNTARY. YEAH. UM, OR SO IT'S, SOMEONE'S CONDITION THEIR STATE OF BEING. SO IF I'M HOMELESS, THAT'S MY STATE OF BEING, FINDING, ACQUIRING GETTING A PHYSICAL TENT HOME DEVICE OR SOMETHING TO LIVE IN FOR SHELTER IS AN INVOLUNTARY THING TO PITCH IT ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. NO, NO, NO, NO. SO LET'S NOT, I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE I, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M TRYING TO NARROW THIS DOWN BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND STUFF. AND I AGREE WITH THE REST OF MY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON HIS COUNCIL WANTS ANYTHING DETRIMENTAL OR WHATEVER TO HAPPENED TO HOMELESS PEOPLE. BUT THE PREMISE OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO ME IN THE, THE BARE TACKS OF IT IS PITCHING A TENT ON PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY AND LIVING IT, THE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE THAT A CITY IS PROVIDING WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THE OPTION OF GETTING THEM TO THE RESOURCES OR REQUIRING THEM THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE IN PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, REQUIRING THEM TO GET TO THE CITY SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED. SO I'LL TRY TO SIMPLIFY. AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I SAY THIS MUCH, THE COURT, THE COURT TOOK A STEP BACK TO NOT SAY THIS, BUT THIS IS THE TAKEAWAY FROM MARTIN DE BOISE. THIS IS THE TAKEAWAY FROM THE COURT THAT CITIES CAN ENACT ORDINANCES THAT PROHIBIT PUBLIC CAMPING, AS LONG AS THEY ALSO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO SHELTER THEIR HOMELESS POPULATION. NOW THAT THE COURT DID NOT SAY THAT OUTRIGHT, BUT THAT CAN BE TAKEN AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE THERE IS A DISCUSSION IN THE RULING. SO WHAT THE COURT IS SAYING IS THAT CITIES CANNOT ENACT, YOU KNOW, PROHIBIT PEOPLE FROM, FROM CAMPING IN PUBLIC. UM, IF THEY ARE, IF THEY ARE HOMELESS, OKAY. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE GIST OF THE RULING. HOWEVER, THE TAKEAWAY, THE TAKEAWAY FROM THE RULING FOR CITIES IS THAT YOU, YOU THINK, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT DOING THIS. YOU CAN ENACT A PUBLIC CAMPING BAN, BUT A CITY ALSO NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SHELTERING, THAT THEY HAVE BEDS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED. OKAY. SO THIS IS WHAT SUCKS ABOUT THE TIME LIMIT. UM, GOT FIVE MORE MINUTES IF I, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I HAVE OTHER THINGS, BUT, UH, BASICALLY WE PROVIDE SHELTER. WE HAVE SHELTER SERVICES, WE HAVE SERVICES THAT HELP PEOPLE, HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT TO FIND COUNCILMAN HERS JUST SAID, HE TOOK HIM, WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. WE HAVE THAT SERVICES AVAILABLE. EVERYONE'S JUST GOING TO ASSUME THAT EVERY ONE OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN ALL AT ONE TIME. LIKE, LIKE FILLING UP A HOTEL IN THE EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE SERVICES AVAILABLE. THIS OTHER QUESTION, THE NEXT QUESTION IS CANCELED. I, I, I HAVE TO STOP CAUSE I GOTTA THINK OF SOME OTHER QUESTIONS. I THINK. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING, BUT I'VE GOT TO GET MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER ON SOME OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. COURTNEY, IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WISHING TO SPEAK ON MY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS JUST REAL QUICKLY, I WILL MAKE THIS, I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN AN INTERESTING COUPLE OF DAYS. I'VE HAD SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS. UM, I'VE STARTED TO UNDERSTAND EVEN MORE ABOUT ON THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACING OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, UM, AS OUR OVERARCHING GOAL IS THAT I HAVEN'T TALKED WITH A SINGLE PERSON WHO DID NOT AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT AND THAT'S THAT WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO, UM, EFFECTIVELY AND HOMELESSNESS. UM, THERE'S A WIDE SPECTRUM OF REASONS WHY PEOPLE END UP HOMELESS. AND SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE A, UH, A WIDE SPECTRUM OF SOLUTIONS. UM, I'M GLAD THAT THE CONVERSATION IS OPEN. UM, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING MORE CONVERSATIONS. UM, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE THROUGH THIS TOGETHER. BUT IF OUR HEARTS ARE ALL IN THE RIGHT PLACES, WE MAY DISAGREE ABOUT EXACTLY HOW TO GET THERE, BUT I THINK WE CAN FIND COMMON GROUND AND WORK TOWARD THOSE SOLUTIONS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AIN'T GOT A COUNCIL MEMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK COUNSELING. DEFINITELY. YES. THE GENTLEMEN THAT YOU RUN THE PROGRAM, WHAT IS THEIR [01:10:01] WESTERN? UM, COULD YOU COME UP FOR A SECOND? IT'S THE ONE STAR. HOW MANY, HOW MANY BEDS DO YOU HAVE? WE ARE HOW MUCH DAY CENTER DAY CENTER. THE CENTER MEANS INDIVIDUALS DO NOT SLEEP IN THE BUILDING. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A ORGANIZATION HERE THAT ACTUALLY HOUSES OR ALLOWS SLEEPING? DO WE HAVE ANY ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED HERE? SHELTERS EMPOWER. YOU YOU'LL HAVE TRANSITIONAL RIGHT NOW. SAINT VINCENT NEPAL IS YOUR LARGEST LONG WAY. SALVATION ARMY. I DO KNOW THAT. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE A FEDERALLY FUNDED, PRIVATE FUNDED CITY. I BELIEVE THE COMBINATION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE IN SOME WAYS. YEAH. I DO NOT WORK WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. SO I DO NOT HAVE THAT SPECIFIC, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE GOT 240 BEDS HERE. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OF THOSE 240 BEDS, I GUESS. AND IT'S SOMEBODY CAN GET TOGETHER. I'LL JUST 240 BEDS. HOW MANY ARE BROUGHT IN PER DAY? LIVING ON THE STREET. I GET THAT PEOPLE SHOW UP AT NIGHT OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE THERE OR STAYING THERE, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. AND IS IT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH? AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING AROUND UP EVERYBODY AT ALL AT ONE TIME AND TAKING THEM TO ONE LOCATION. UM, DO WE HAVE THE SERVICES IN PLACE I'VE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE PASSED, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE? YES. WE'VE GOT SO MANY PROGRAMS IN PLACE. WE'VE GOT THIS IN PLACE. WE'VE GOT IT. EVERYBODY'S HARD AT CREATING PROGRAMS. WE NEED TO USE THESE PROGRAMS AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A TOOL TO HELP DO THAT. BUT WHAT ARE YOU FIXING TO ANSWER A QUESTION? THANK YOU. BECAUSE IN PREPARING FOR, UH, TODAY'S CONVERSATION, WE DID HAVE ONE OF OUR LAW CLERKS REACH OUT JUST TO DO SOME PRELIMINARY RESEARCH AND GET SOME, TRY TO GET SOME NUMBERS FOR US, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT DOES BOIL DOWN TO THAT COUNCILMAN, LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE IS THE CITY SERVING PER DAY? UM, IF THIS ORDINANCE DOES GO INTO PLACE AND WE DO, YOU KNOW, UM, ENCOUNTER SOME LITIGATION ON IT, CAN WE SAY, LOOK, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH BEDS FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO THIS IS WHAT, UM, THE, IN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAD, UM, THE SALVATION ARMY SAYS THAT THEY, THAT THEY ENCOUNTER 100 PLUS PEOPLE A DAY AND THEY HAVE TO TURN AWAY HALF OF THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE 60 BED CAPACITY. ST. VINCENT DEPAUL SAYS THAT THEY ENCOUNTER 35 PEOPLE, UM, PER DAY, ROUGHLY. AND THEY HAVE, UH, 25 BEDS FOR A MAN, MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN. THEY HAVE, UH, 25 BEDS. IT LOOKS, SOUNDS LIKE, YEAH. OKAY. SO, SO, SO QUICK MATH THERE IS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN HOUSING, UH, PEOPLE 10 25, 30, 40, 50 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY BEEN OPERATION DOING THAT, BUT IF THEY'RE TAKING IT, THEY GOT A HUNDRED A DAY AND THEY'RE TURNING AWAY PEOPLE, BUT YET THERE'S GETTING FUNDING AND THEN SO ON AND SO FORTH, WHERE'S THE GAP WHERE THEY HAVEN'T RAMPED UP TO EVERY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE A BUSINESS YOU RAMP UP TO CAPACITY TO SERVE CUSTOMERS, WHERE HAVE THEY NOT RAMPED UP TO SERVE CAPACITY. IF THEY'RE TURNING THAT MANY PEOPLE AWAY A DAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THE THING THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE WELL, WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING ENOUGH FUNDING, GIVE US MORE FUNDING, GIVE US MORE MONEY, GIVE US MORE MONEY. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW THEIR BOOKS OR WHATEVER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE RELYING ON THESE AGENCIES THAT, THAT WE'RE SUPPLYING EITHER FEDERAL MONEY, UH, PARISH MONEY, OR STATE MONEY, UH, THESE TO RAMP UP IF THEY'RE ALREADY TURNING THAT MANY PEOPLE AWAY. UH, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT ON THAT. SO, UM, WELL I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, I THINK WE'VE HAD GREAT DISCUSSION ON THIS. UH, I APPRECIATE THAT. LET ME ASK THE QUESTIONS AND ALL THAT. I AGREE FROM A STANDPOINT, I THINK IT'S A UNSAFE PRACTICE TO, FOR HALF PEOPLE LIVING IN THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. UM, COUNCILMAN HARRIS, I APPLAUD WHAT YOU DID AND ACTUALLY SHOWING THAT USE OF THE SYSTEM. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS ORDINANCE HERE, IT WOULD TWEAK THE LANGUAGE AND EVERYTHING WILL GET US TO THAT POINT TO WHERE WE AS A CITY, NOT IN INDIVIDUAL COUNSELING AND HURT, BUT WE AS A CITY CAN ALMOST DO THAT SAME THING AS GET THEM AND MAKE THEM GO TO THOSE RESOURCES. NOW, YOUR COUNCIL MILLENNIA COUNCIL MEMBERS WISHING TO SPEECH, THERE IS A MOTION TO DEFER BY COUNCIL MEMBER, HUDSON SECOND, EVER. OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HERTZ. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE FRONT ITEM FOR 30 DAYS? THAT ITEM HAS BEEN DEFERRED ITEM MAYBE FOR A MINIMUM [84. 22-00617] OF 2022 CURRENT EXPENSE BUDGET FROM MOSQUITO ABATEMENT AND RHODA CONTROLS THE LAST TWO APPROPRIATE FOR ME, IF I WERE IN A $49,533 FROM THE FUND [01:15:01] BALANCE ON A SIGN FOR THE PURCHASE OF A HELICOPTER BY MOSQUITO ABATEMENT AND RODENT CONTROL. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ALL ITEM 84, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 84, WE'RE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON. UH, YEAH, JUST ONE OF THE BRIEFLY SAY, YOU KNOW, MY, MY POSITION ON THIS REMAINS AS OPPOSED. UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL, UH, OUR CONSTITUENTS, OR CERTAINLY AT LEAST THE CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT NINE. UH, I THINK THEY WANT US TO TAKE A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO BUDGETING. THEY WANT US TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE VILLAGES, UH, AND THEY WANT TO SEE US PRIORITIZE OUR SPENDING. UH, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME CAMPAIGN SEASON COMES AROUND, UH, IT'S ALWAYS REAL POPULAR, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT FOR ALL POLITICIANS TO TALK ABOUT PRIORITIZING SPENDING, UM, AND WITH THE DEDICATED MILLAGE, UH, SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE SET UP, UM, IT REALLY CAUSES A PROBLEM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. UH, AT SOME POINT THERE'S GOTTA BE A BREAK IN THAT CYCLE. IT CAN EITHER HAPPEN WHEN THE, WHEN THE MILLER'S DEDICATION HAPPENS AT THE BALLOT. IT CAN, IT CAN HAPPEN WHENEVER WE SET THE MILLAGE ANNUALLY OR IT CAN HAPPEN ON THE SPENDING. UM, PERSONALLY, I THINK IT NEEDS TO START HAPPENING AT ALL THREE SPOTS. UM, SO, UH, THAT'S MY, UH, MY REASONING FOR BEING OPPOSED TO IT. AND, UM, UH, DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE GOOD FOLKS AT MARK. UH, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING BEHIND IT FROM THE FUNCTION OF A MOSQUITO ABATEMENT. I UNDERSTAND IT. I'M NOT FAULTING YOU FOR THAT. YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOBS. UH, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT AND PRIORITIZE OUR SPENDING HERE IN THE PARISH. SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMO. UH, YEAH. COULD YOU STEP TO THE VOTING PLEASE? SO HERE'S MY BASIC TAKE ON THIS. WHAT'S THIS WHAT I GOT FROM THE LAST MEETING AND, UH, I KNOW I WAS PRETTY HARSH ON YOU. DON'T COMING UP WITH A PLAN. UM, I CAN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU VERY WELL PREPARED LAST TIME. I HOPE YOU HAVE A BETTER DISCUSSION THIS TIME. SO IN THE LAST MEETING YOU TOLD US YOU HAD TWO AIRPLANES, RIGHT? ONE OF THEM IS BASICALLY A PART IS SITTING THERE FOR PARTS. IF I'VE, IF I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION, CORRECT? YOU HAVE TWO AIRPLANES, ONE OF US SITTING THERE FOR PARTS, THE OTHER ONE IS USING THE PARTS OFF THE ONE THAT'S SITTING THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET PARTS IT'S SO OLD OR HARD TO FIND OR MANUFACTURE THESE PARTS FOR THE OTHER PLANE. AM I CORRECT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO ISLANDERS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE NORMALLY ONLY FLY ONE BECAUSE WE CANNIBALIZE PARTS OFF OF ONE TO FLY THE OTHER. OKAY. SO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AM, AM I CORRECT? WE'RE EITHER BUYING WE'RE SOON TO FIND ANOTHER AIRPLANE OR WE'RE GOING TO FIND A HELICOPTER, ONE OF THE OTHERS, CORRECT. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS, THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED RIGHT NOW, OR THAT SHOULD BE PROVIDED RIGHT NOW OR BY TWO PLANES. SO, YOU KNOW, I SAID THAT MAY BE THE MOST BASIC THING. SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT IS OUR COST DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN BUYING REAL QUICK, BY BUYING ANOTHER AIRPLANE VERSUS BUYING A HELICOPTER? DOES IT HELL IT DOES AN AIRPLANE RUN ABOUT THE SAME COST AS GETTING THE HELL. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT AIRPLANE FOR HELICOPTER. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT GOES ATTACHED TO IT, OR PAINTED A DIFFERENT COLOR AIRPLANE VERSUS HELICOPTER OUTRIGHT ABOUT THE SAME. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE COST. I'LL LET DR. BECKER I'M RANDY, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, THE CHOICES REALLY HELICOPTER BECAUSE OF THE EPA CHANGES AND WHAT CHEMICALS WE SPRAYED AREAS. OKAY. AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE IT, SIR. EXCUSE ME, ONE SECOND. I WANT TO GOT TWO MINUTES, 42 SECONDS. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. WHY YOU WERE LOOKING AT A HELICOPTER. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS WHY YOU WANT TO USE THE HELICOPTER. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE PUBLIC IS WE'RE GOING ONE OF THE, WE HA WE HAVE A SITTING THERE AIRPLANE, USE IT FOR PARTS. WE'RE GOING ONE TO THE OTHER. WE GET IN A HELICOPTER OR AN AIRPLANE. WE'VE GOT TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES. WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN AIRPLANE AND A HELICOPTER? SO THE, THE PLAN IS TO SELL THE TWO AIRPLANES WHERE IF WE GET A HELICOPTER, WE, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO BUYING ANOTHER ISLANDER. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, CAN YOU EVEN BUY ISLANDERS TO SPRAY ANYMORE? I MEAN, THEY'RE PRETTY OBSOLETE. SO WHAT'S THE AVERAGE COST OF AN AIRPLANE TO SPRAY WITH 4 MILLION AROUND 4 MILLION FOR A BRAND NEW, BUT FOR [01:20:01] ME. AND SO IF WE, IF WE USED TO BUY AN AIRPLANE, WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT $4 MILLION AND WE KNOW FROM THE, THAT FLIES AT 200 FEET, AND IT CAN ONLY PLAY AS ADULT DECIDE OR WHATEVER IT IS HAS GOT ONE CERTAIN THING THAT IT'S USED FOR FLY OVER THE WHOLE PARISH, 200 FEET MOVING. WE SPENT ANOTHER $549,933. WE HAVE A HELICOPTER THAT HELICOPTER THEN DOES MORE DIRECT SPRAIN. IT DOES, UH, MORE, UH, CONTACT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. FOR WHAT I'M READING WITH THE REPORTS AND EVERYTHING NOW, OPERATIONAL EXPENSE, WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE? SO NOW WE'VE GOT A FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE, FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY 9,000 DIFFERENCE. WHAT DOES IT COST DIFFERENCE IN ACTUALLY USING THE HELICOPTER PER YEAR VERSUS USING THE PLANE PER YEAR? SO OPERATIONALLY, UH, USING THE HELICOPTER WOULD COST 24,000 A YEAR, MORE THAN AN AIRPLANE. AND THE NUMBER THAT YOU'RE GIVEN IS BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO TRANSITION INTO LARVICIDING, THAT'S THE EXPENSIVE PART OF IT, BUT THE ACTUAL OPERATING COSTS FROM AN AIRPLANE VERSUS HELICOPTER IS ONLY ROUGHLY 24,000. OKAY. SO FOR THAT 24,000 PER YEAR, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE? WHAT IS THE EFFICIENCY PERCENTAGE INCREASE OR DECREASE WITH THE USE OF THE HELICOPTER? WHAT, WHAT IS THE, IS IT A 25% BETTER COVERAGE, BETTER USAGE FOR THAT $24,000 A YEAR? OR IS IT A HUNDRED PERCENT BETTER USAGE AND COVERAGE FOR $24,000 A YEAR OR LESS? SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE LARVACIDING IS UNPRECEDENTED. WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO LARVACIDE FROM AN AERIAL AIRCRAFT. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE NEW. AGAIN. WE WANT TO GET DESTROYED THOSE MOSQUITOES BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN ABLE TO BECOME ADULTS. AND THAT'S WHEN THEY PAUSE A PROBLEM. SO, OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR BATTLES. OKAY. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. ARE Y'ALL FLYING MISSIONS RIGHT NOW OR FLOWN KNEE THIS YEAR? WE HAVE NOT FLOWN ANY THIS YEAR. OKAY. IS THAT DUE? YES. THE PLANES ARE DOWN RIGHT NOW. OKAY. PHONE NUMBER BANKS. UM, THIS IS $4 MILLION THAT YOU HAVE, RIGHT? YES. WE HAVE SAVED THAT. WE'VE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS WITH THE MONEY. THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PLANNED VERY CAREFULLY AND BEFORE I EVEN STARTED, UM, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU DIDN'T BUY THIS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE 4 MILLION? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T THINK WE COULD TAKE IT BACK. I DON'T THINK WE COULD. YEAH, I THINK, UH, THE OTHER THING I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME MERIT IN TO, UH, WHAT, UM, COUNCILMEN, UH, THAT'S IN TALKS WHEN YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, THERE, IT IS REALISTIC THAT WHEN THERE'S IN SOME AREAS, THERE'S LOT OF MONEY AND FOLKS HAVE TO GO FIND STUFF TO SPEND IT ON, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE CASE. THIS IS A REAL NEED. UM, JUST LIKE PHONES, THE CAPE, THE TECHNOLOGY CAPABILITY IS A CONSTANT INCREASE. LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT THE LAVA SIDES. UM, THOSE ARE NOT, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT CAPABILITY BEFORE. I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER PARTS THAT I WOULD NOT KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PLAYING, BUT I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. UM, SO THAT YOU ALL CAN GO BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF, UH, OF DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY FREE OF MOSQUITOES AND LAVA AND ALL THAT. SO I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU DID THIS AGENCY HAS MAINTAINED A 1974 AND A 1986 SHOWS THAT THEY WANT FRIVOLOUS THIS. I MEAN, YOU AREN'T BUYING IT. HOW MANY YEARS? 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS THEN SHE EVEN CONTEMPLATED MAKING A PURCHASE. AND MOST OF US CHANGED CARS TO TWO TO FOUR YEARS. AND WE DON'T GO THROUGH AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S HOW MONEY, BUT FIRST, BUT WE HAVE TO USE SOME KIND OF LOGIC TO THIS. AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT PEOPLE WHO WERE FLYING IT TO NOT BE SAFE. SO I APPRECIATE THIS. UH, I'M SURE IT HAS MORE EFFICIENCY AS IT RELATES TO FUEL AND OIL AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOW, WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT, UM, AIRPLANES AND TRAINS AND MOTORS, BACKERS, AND BOATS AND ALL THAT. SO I AM MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE IT, AND I HOPE THAT, UM, THE COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, SO YOU CAN GET BACK TO THE SERIOUS BUSINESS THAT NONE [01:25:01] OF US ARE AUTHORITIES ON. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER. NO, TO NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, I WILL GET MY TIME BACK AND I WILL VOTE TO APPROVE. SO COUNCIL NUMBER ROCKER. SO I CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UM, IS A HELICOPTER PILOT DIFFERENT THAN AN AIRPLANE PILOT. AND DO WE HAVE THAT PERSON? YES, WE HAVE A QUALIFIED HELICOPTER PILOT OR ADDRESS IT, AND THAT PERSON IS ON STAFF. AND PART OF THE COSTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. YES, HE'S A CONTRACT PILOT, BUT IT IS IN THAT COST. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, UM, ONE MORE QUESTION. THIS IS MORE FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. UM, SO TELL ME THIS. AND I LEARNED THIS A COUPLE A YEAR OR TWO AGO, AND I FOUND THIS EXTREMELY, UH, SCARY WEST NILE. AND, UM, TELL ME WHAT THE MOSQUITO ILLNESSES ARE THAT, THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT YOU SEE REGULARLY. RIGHT? SO, UH, MOSQUITOES TRANSMIT VARIOUS DIFFERENT VIRUSES, BUT SOME OF THE MORE RECENT ONES THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN BATON ROUGE ARE WEST NILE VIRUS. DIDN'T GAY RECENTLY, UM, ZIKA VIRUS AND CHICKEN. GUNYAR JUST TO NAME A FEW OF THE VERY RECENT ONES THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND IN EAST BATON ROUGE, WHICH WERE NEVER OKAY. AND RECENT, GIVE ME A TIMEFRAME. WHEN THE LAST TIME YOU SEEN TRACES OF THOSE, ONE OF, ONE OF THE THREE OR ALL OF THE THREE. SO 2002, UH, WHEN WE FIRST SAW WEST NILE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THREE, RIGHT? WE'RE KIND OF THE PHOTO SIDE FOR WEST NILE HUMAN CASES IN LOUISIANA. WE'RE A CITY BUILT IN THE FOREST. WE HAVE BIRDS, IT'S A DISEASE IN BIRDS. WE HAVE MOSQUITOES LAST YEAR, WE HAD FIVE NEURO INVASIVE HUMAN CASES. UH, FOR EVERY NEURO INVASIVE CASE, THERE'S TYPICALLY ASSUMED 140 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BITTEN BY AN INFECTED MOSQUITO. MANY OF THEM DON'T HAVE SYMPTOMS, BUT, UH, LAST YEAR WAS A VERY LIGHT YEAR. IN 2002, THE OUTBREAK HERE, WE HAD 50 NEURO INVASIVE. SO MULTIPLY THAT BY 140. SEE THE EXTENT THAT WEST NOW, UH, IN HAVE, AND THE NEURO INVASIVE CASES ALWAYS RESOLVED IN HOSPITALIZATION. IT IS VERY SERIOUS. AND CAN YOU TELL ME WITH REGARD TO DISTRICTS, WHERE, WHERE WERE THOSE CASES AT AND WHERE IN THE PARISH OR WHERE IN THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE? UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS PREDICATED BY SURVEILLANCE. WE RUN 60 TRAPS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SPECIES, THE NUMBERS OF THOSE SPECIES. AND WE SUBMIT EVERY WEEK ON WEDNESDAY TODAY, UH, TO LSU VET SCHOOL TO SEE IF THERE'S ST LOUIS ENCEPHALITIS, EASTERN EQUINE ENCEPHALITIS, AND WEST NILE, SOMETIMES ZIKA AND DENGUE. IF IT'S, IF THERE'S PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE COUNTRY. SO WE DO THIS EVERY WEEK. THE LAST WEEK, WE HAD A POSITIVE MOSQUITOES SAMPLE, UH, FROM BAKER, THE BROWN HEIGHTS AREA BY NOT, NOT TOO PROBLEMATIC. UH, THIS WEEK WE HAD A POSITIVE SAMPLE FROM ACTUALLY OUT OF THE PARISH. WE DO SOME SAMPLING IMMEDIATELY OUT OF THE PARISH, THE WE'LL KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. THEY DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM EASILY, SHANA, BUT WE HAD A SAMPLE POSITIVE FROM SWAB. UH, WE CALL THE MAYOR UP THERE AND LET HER KNOW SO THEY CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT INFORMATION. THIS IS NATIONAL MOSQUITO AWARENESS WEEK IN THE UNITED STATES. SO RIGHT. UH, BUT SURVEILLANCE DRIVES EVERYTHING WE DO. AND THEN WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE. THAT'S ALL THEY DO IS RUN TRAP, CAPTURING MOSQUITOES. SO WE DON'T JUST SPRAY, YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. CAUSE IT'S TUESDAY, WE DIRECT OUR, OUR APPLICATIONS CAUSE THEY'RE EXPENSIVE. SOME OF THE CHEMICALS WE USE ARE $505 A GALLON. THE ONLY THING THAT US. SO THERE'S A METHOD BEHIND EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO. BUT I THINK, I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC, A COMMON MISCONCEPTION IS THAT THE THINGS THAT WE, THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTS IN NEWS ARTICLES YEARS AGO, LIKE ZIKA, WEST NILE, ALL OF THESE, THESE DISEASES THAT WE HEARD ABOUT JUST DISAPPEARED. BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS IT COULD BE IN OUR BACKYARD. HOWEVER, YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF KEEPING THAT FROM BEING, BEING WITHIN OUR HOUSE. I HOPE IT DID DIMINISH THE SIGNIFICANCE OF ARBOVIRUSES BECAUSE OF HIS PREFERENCE. THAT'S THAT'S TRUE. BUT, UH, THE PROBLEM WE'D SEEN IN THE LAST 22 YEARS, NOT ONLY HAVE WE HAD THESE FOUR NEW DISEASES, WE'VE HAD FOUR NEW SPECIES OF MOSQUITOES SHOW UP HERE AND HE'S BATON ROUGE AND THERE'S TWO MORE ON OUR DOORSTEP IN MISSISSIPPI. SO WITH MY MAGIC CHANGES, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET NEW DISEASES. RIFF VALLEY IS ONE PLANE RIDE AWAY FROM AFRICA. WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET NEW SKI THIS FROM THE NEOTROPICS [01:30:02] THOUGH. THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO BE VERY PROACTIVE AND, AND, UH, IN OUR APPROACH TO TRYING TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, BUT BY GETTING THIS HELICOPTER, THAT'S TOTALLY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF YOUR BUDGET AND YOU'RE NOT TAKING MONEY FROM ANYBODY ELSE'S BUDGET AND WE'RE NOT INCREASING TAXES. UM, BY, BY GETTING THIS HELICOPTER, IT WOULD CONTINUE TO FIGHT THE FIGHT AGAINST MOSQUITOES AND THEIR BITES, I GUESS, IS WHAT YOU WOULD SAY. AS DR. BECKER SAID, IT ALLOWS US A WHOLE NEW APPROACH, WIDE AREA. LARVICIDING TRYING TO CONTROL THESE MOSQUITOES WHEN THEY'RE STILL IN THE BODY DAYS BEFORE THEY'D HAD A CHANCE TO FLY AROUND. NOW, WE'RE STILL HAVE TO DO SOME OF THAT TOO, BECAUSE MANY OF THEM, STEVE, AS WE'VE YET COME FROM ASCENSION PARISH AND LIVINGSTON PARISH AND EVER BUILT PARISH, UH, CLUBS AND SPECIES FLY FIVE MILES A NIGHT. SO THEY'RE IN SORENTO THE NEXT WEEK. THEY'RE IN DOWNTOWN BATON ROUGE. SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO DO ADULTICIDING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS ADDITIONAL, UH, APPROACH ON THE SIDE ON A WIDESPREAD, ERIC, THANK YOU SO MUCH, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU ALL FOR PROVIDING THE INFORMATION, REBECCA, YOU SENT ME A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE, UM, DOCUMENT OUTLINING THIS. UM, I WILL TELL YOU I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF, UH, OUR GOVERNMENT AGENCIES BEING INNOVATIVE AND LOOKING FOR NEW AND UPDATED WAYS TO, UH, RESOLVE ISSUES. AND SO ON THE SURFACE, ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUE WITH THIS. IF YOU'RE GETTING A BETTER RETURN ON THIS INVESTMENT, WHAT I THINK FOLKS ARE FOCUSING ON IS A PUBLIC AGENCY WANTS TO SPEND FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR A HELICOPTER, WHICH JUST ON ITS FACE, SEEMS A LITTLE BIT, UH, OUT OF BOUNDS. BUT TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE, ABOUT WHAT THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT WOULD BE WITH GETTING THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, YOUR, YOUR, UM, 2020 ANNUAL REPORT. YOU PROVIDE A LOT OF DATA IN THIS. YOU TALK ABOUT 20 MISSIONS WITH THE AIRPLANE AND COVERING 167,000 ACRES. TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO WITH, UH, THE HELICOPTER, BECAUSE IF I CAN JUST FOR A SECOND, YOUR DISTRICT, I'M SORRY. IN YOUR DISTRICT, THERE'S ABOUT 4,600 ACRES OF PALMETTO SWAMP. THAT IS UNINHABITED, THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO CONTROL THE MOSQUITOES IN THAT AREA OF BORDERS STUFF BY YOU, MANCHESTER FLOOD PLAIN. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN THERE RIGHT NOW WHERE THE HELICOPTER WE CAN LARVICIDE NOW, DO WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH CONTROL WE'RE GOING TO GET? NO, WE STILL GOT TO PLAY AROUND WITH THE LARVICIDES. NONE OF THEM ARE DOLLARS 70 A POUND THAT'S WE'LL START WITH THAT ONE. THEN 10 POUNDS PER ACRE. SOME OF THE OTHERS ARE $22 A POUND. OKAY. SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW EFFICACIOUS THIS APPROACH WILL BE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY IT. AND WE'VE GOT TO KEEP TRYING AND KEEP TRYING TO GET OUR CONTROL BETTER. REGULATORY CHANGES ARE ON THE WAY, UH, THE CHEMICAL THAT WE'VE BEEN SPRAYING FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS OUT OF THE AIRCRAFT, THE EPA IN 2019 TOLD US YOU NEED TO HELP PEOPLE KEEP YOUR KIDS INSIDE FOR FOUR HOURS AFTER WE SPRAY, WHAT DID WE DO? WE STOPPED SPRAYING. THAT'S A CRAZY KIND OF THING. WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, SWITCHED TO TAKE A CHANCE. WE'RE NOT LIKE THESE DISTRICTS THAT SPRAY OVER A MARSHAL IN THE INTERCEPT, INTERCEPTING MOSQUITOES ON THE WAY TO URBAN AREA. WE'RE SPRAYING OVER PEOPLE IN BATON ROUGE, BUT WE STOPPED WITH THAT CHEMICAL AND WENT TO A LIGHTER WEIGHT MATERIAL. UNFORTUNATELY FROM 300 FEET THAT DRIFT OR CHEMICAL, CAN'T BE CALCULATED AS CLOSELY AS THE OLDER CHEMICAL. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FLY AS COUNCILMAN MOTES, THAT IT'S 75 FEET. THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU ALL TO COMMUNICATE IS, IS IN THAT FORM. WHAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT? IF YOU CAME TO THIS COUNCIL AND SAID, WE NEED 10 NEW TRUCKS AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND SAID, AND WITH THESE TRUCKS, WE'RE GOING TO COVER 20,000 MORE ACRES OF THE PARISH. THAT MAKES SENSE TO US AND SAY, OKAY, IT'S MORE EFFICIENT OPERATIONS. IT'S COVERING A GREATER AREA. THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IN THIS INSTANCE WITH THIS HELICOPTER. AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T HONE IN ON SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT IS, BUT TELL US ABOUT THOSE INSTANCES WHERE I CAN TELL RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT, OKAY. I VOTED FOR IT BECAUSE THERE'S MARSHLAND IN DISTRICT THREE THAT DOESN'T GET COVERED. DOESN'T GET SPRAYED WITH A TRUCK, BUT WITH THIS INSTANCE IT WILL. AND THAT PROTECTS OUR FAMILIES. WE HOPE IT WILL. AND, AND ALL ALONG THE AMY RIVERS, THE SAME SITUATION, WE HAVE ALL THIS FLOOD, PLAIN THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO ANY THE BARB SIGNING APPLICATIONS FROM THE ONLY YOU CAN DO FROM FIXED-WING AIRCRAFT IS LIQUID. [01:35:01] AND WE'VE DONE TRIALS WITH THAT FOR YEARS AND YEARS UNSUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THE CANOPY COVER BATON ROUGE, UH, THE SOUTHERN UNIVERSITIES, UH, URBAN FORESTRY DEPARTMENT DETERMINED SOME YEARS AGO, BATON ROUGE HAS THE SECOND GREATEST ANTIOPE COVER OF ANY MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREA ONLY EXCEEDED BY ATLANTA. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET LIQUID THROUGH CANON. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN HAVING A HARD TIME TRYING TO ADJUST THAT WE CAN GET PELLETS THROUGH IT, BUT WE CAN'T APPLY PELLETS AT A FIXED WING, GOING 140 MILES AN HOUR. IT DOESN'T WORK. SO ARE WE SURE THIS IS GOING TO MAKE HUGE INROADS IN OUR CONTROL AND ULTIMATELY SAVE MONEY? NO, BUT THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE AT THIS POINT. AND WE'RE MODELING HOURS DOWN ON PROGRAMS THAT ARE VERY ADVANCED IN FLORIDA AND CALIFORNIA, WHERE HELICOPTERS HAVE BEEN USED FOR A LONG TIME. SO THREE, THREE POINTS I WANT TO MAKE FIRST, IT COULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ADULT ASSIGNEE THAT WE USED IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT COULD REDUCE ADULT ASSIGNING COST TO THE RESALE VALUE OF THE ACTUAL HELICOPTER IS GOING TO REMAIN HIGH. UM, THE, THE RESALE VALUE, WE'VE DONE SOME COST ANALYSIS ON THAT. SO IT'S GOING TO RETAIN ITS VALUE. AND ALSO WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO THE IDEA OF CONTRACTING AND AN ALTITUDE, OTHER PARISHES, IF, IF, UM, THAT'S, IF WE'RE ABLE TO WORK THAT OUT SO WE COULD, UH, GAIN REVENUE THAT WAY. THANK YOU, COUNSEL NUMBER. NOPE. YES. THANK YOU. SO SPEAKING OF THE OUTBREAKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS THERE, DOES THERE COME A TIME WHEN, UM, YOU REPORT TO LSU, THE STATE OR FEDERAL STEPS IN AND SAYS, UH, THIS MUST BE DONE NOW WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME, YOU NEED TO GO FOR IT. YOU TALK ABOUT SCHEDULED ROUTES OR ANYTHING. IS THERE ANY OTHER TIME THAT A UNSCHEDULED FLY OVER HAS TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY SAY YOU'RE YOU METERS OR WHATEVER, SAY THERE'S A HIGHER OUTBREAK OR WHATEVER IN THIS AREA. YEAH. IN, IN THE LOUISIANA, THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE CALL ABOUT WHEN ADULT ASSIGNING IS DONE FROM AIRCRAFT OR FROM TRUCK ARE THE MOSQUITO DISTRICTS THEMSELVES, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT. SOME STATES IT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THAT MAKES THAT CALL IN LOUISIANA. IT'S THE MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT THAT MAKES THAT DECISION. SO IF, IF YOU HAVE AN OUTBREAK IN A CERTAIN LIST, I'M GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN TO DISTRICTS, CERTAIN DISTRICTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THE AIRPLANE, YOU BASICALLY, UH, BACK AND FORTH OVER THE WHOLE AREA, HOPE YOU GET IT AT 200 FEET OR WHATEVER. UM, YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT YOU'VE WENT IN AND CHECKED YOUR, I GUESS, BUG TRAPS OR WHATEVER. AND YOU FIND A HEAVIER OUTBREAK. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT IS IT MORE EFFICIENT THAT YOU CAN GO TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND JUST SATURATED AND BE DONE ON AN, EVEN ON AN UNSCHEDULED OUTBREAK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. SO TREATING WITH THE HELICOPTER, YOU CAN GET MUCH MORE PRECISE IN SMALLER AREAS. AND THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. IF YOU HAVE A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD OR AREA THAT'S EXPERIENCED IN WEST NOW, EITHER IN HUMANS OR MOSQUITOES, YOU CAN GO TO THAT AREA WITH THE MOSQUITO AND TREAT MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN YOU CAN WITH, YOU KNOW, AN AIRPLANE COMING IN, GOING FAST AND HIGH. OKAY. SO, AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS WAY WITH, WITH THE HELICOPTER, COULD YOU SCHEDULE MORE FREQUENT, TARGETED FLIGHTS, OR WOULD YOU LOOK INTO SCHEDULING MORE FREQUENTLY TARGETED SITES BASED ON WHAT YOU SEE IN YOUR BOOK TRAPS AND STUFF? WE CAN CERTAINLY, AS DR. BECKER SAID, WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO LARVACIDE, THAT'S SOMETHING NEW. SO EVERY TIME WE WOULD BE DOING THAT, THAT'S A WHOLE NEW AVENUE AND A WHOLE NEW, OKAY. SO BASED ON THE LARVACIDE LARVACIDE, WE COULD ACTUALLY REDUCE FLIGHTS AND COSTS IN WHAT WE NEED TO GO BASED ON AFTER YOU START LARVACIDING AND SEEING WHAT YOU SEE IN, IN YOUR BUCK TRAPS. UM, IF WE COULD POSSIBLY REDUCE COSTS THEN, AND NOT HAVE TO FLY AS MUCH, BRIAN, WE COULD, WE WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WE COULD REDUCE SPEEDING ADULTICIDING OPERATIONS ULTIMATE. WELL, I, LIKE I SAID, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE, THE INFORMATION, THE EDUCATION, UM, THE THINGS LIKE MY MINE WAS MORE ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YES, I HAD BEEN GETTING THE EMAILS GOING WELL, HERE WE ARE WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR BUYING AN AIRPLANE. I MEAN, A HELICOPTER. WE DON'T NEED IT. THE, THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO GET ACROSS TO THE PUBLIC IS THE FACT THAT WE WERE, [01:40:01] I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE WE'VE GOT TO GET FULLY FUNCTIONING DEPARTMENT. WE'VE GOT A PLANE THAT'S BEING USED FOR PARTS OR SWAPPING PARTS BACK AND FORTH. THAT ONLY KEEPS ONE OF THEM IN THE AIR AT A TIME, OR ANY GIVEN TIME. BOTH OF THEM MAY BE DOWN. I BELIEVE YOU SAID EARLIER, THEY'RE BOTH DOWN NOW. UM, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL ON ME, BANKS BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THEM IS OLDER THAN ME. THAT'S PRETTY OLD. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM'S, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHTIES PLANE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UM, I I'M ON BOARD WITH THIS AND I HOPE WE CAN USE IT MORE EFFICIENTLY AND SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, W W YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SAVING UP FOR THIS. WE'RE NOT, UH, SAID IT BEFORE. WE'RE NOT PULLING MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT'S IN THE BUDGET. IT'S, IT'S NOT APPRAISING. WE REDUCED, UM, TAX LIABILITY OR TAX MILLAGE, UM, AT THE LAST AIN'T. SO I FEEL LIKE EVEN THOUGH Y'ALL HAVE BEEN AT THAT, WE'VE SET A LOWER CAPSULE, WE'RE SAVING TAX DOLLARS THERE, UH, FOR CITIZENS. AND, UM, I SAY, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE IT A BLESSING TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. I TOLD MYSELF I WASN'T GOING TO DO THE SOAP BOX THING TONIGHT, BUT I JUST, I'VE GOT ONE MORE THING TO SAY. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE NOW HAD THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR COME BEFORE US TONIGHT AND SAY THAT WE'RE UNSURE OF THE EFFICACY OF THIS PROGRAM. UH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $4.5 MILLION. IT IS ONLY IN A ABSOLUTELY ABYSMAL, BROKEN BUDGETING SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, SO YOU KNOW, THIS ITEM FINE. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT, BUT IF THE COUNCIL MOVES IN THIS DIRECTION, THAT'S OKAY. UH, BUT WE'VE GOT TO, WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE THE WAY WE HANDLE MONEY IN THIS PARISH SO THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE OUR SPENDING. UM, BECAUSE AS I LOOK AROUND AT THE ISSUES THAT CONSTITUENTS ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT RIGHT NOW, THIS ISN'T ONE OF THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE TOP. UM, CERTAINLY YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, DO A VITAL ROLE. UH, I DON'T MEAN TO REDUCE, UH, THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU DO. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT WILLING TO, TO RISK $4.5 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY ON A PROGRAM THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE EFFICACY OF THE PROGRAM. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. QUICK QUESTION HAD, HAVE, Y'ALL TALKED TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WHO'VE MADE THIS SWITCH OVER FROM THE PLANE TO THE HELICOPTER. IS THERE, UM, IF NOT HARD DATA, IS THERE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF INCREASED EFFICACY? YEAH. SO ST. TAMMANY PARISH, UM, THEY HAD BEEN USING, THEY USE THE HELICOPTER TO PASS A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEY PURCHASED ONE AND, UM, THEY DO A LOT MORE. IT DEPENDS ON THE PARISH. SO LIKE RANDY WAS SAYING WE HAVE MORE TREES BUILT FOR US. IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO GET THROUGH THAT CANOPY COVER, BUT FOR THEM, ST. TAMMANY HAS MORE MARSH. SO THEY ARE ABLE TO TREAT A LOT MORE WITH THE HELICOPTER AND GET TO THE PROBLEM AREAS A LOT BETTER. SO, SO, UM, SO THERE'S A THERE, WOULD YOU SAY THERE'S A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OR NO, WE'RE ON THE, I MEAN, IN FLORIDA, THEY HELICOPTERS ARE A STANDARD. I MEAN, THERE'S 40 HELICOPTERS THAT ARE OWNED AND THEN THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN, BUT IN FLORIDA, MOSQUITO CONTROL, I THINK ONE OF THE DISTRICTS, WHICH IS THE GOLDEN STANDARD ARE OPERATING SIX HELICOPTERS, UM, IN THEIR FLEET. SO IT'S DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY WORTH, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I FEEL LIKE HAD LIKE 16 TO 20 WEEKS OF MOSQUITO AWARENESS WEEKS AND THAT IN ROUGE. SO, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY CELEBRATE TODAY. THANKS ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR OF OUR COUNSELING BANK. SECOND OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBER NOLA TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. I KNOW WE HAVE ONE OBJECTIVE. OBJECTION. IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED? WE NOW GO TO ITEM 85 [85. 22-00721] AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE BEDROOM'S POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ACCEPT A GRANT SUB AWARD FROM THE LOUISIANA COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE BURN JUSTIN'S ASSISTANCE GRANT TITLED GUN VIOLENCE REDUCTION AND THE AMOUNT OF $19,601 BY POLICE CHIEF. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO BEING RIGHT IN 85? WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM, MAYBE FIVE. SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS SECONDED BY THE CHAIR. AND I GO TO ITEM SIX, AUTHORIZED [86. 22-00723] AND APPROVED IN THE SELECTION OF THE ADVOCATE AS THE OFFICIAL JOURNAL OF THE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE, THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE FOR A PERIOD OF JULY 1ST, JUNE 22 UNTIL JULY 30TH, 2023 IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOUISIANA REVISED STATUTE 43, CALL THEM ON FORTY ONE, EIGHT BY COUNCIL ADMINISTRATOR, THE TREASURER, ANYONE WHO WISHING TO SPEAK OR ITEM 86 WE'RE. NOW I WOULD LIKE TO COUNSEL [01:45:01] SOMEONE BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. SECOND ABOUT HERS. WHEN I WROTE ITEM 88, WE SENT [88. 22-00738] HIM UNDER REGULAR ACCORDING RECORDING DECISION ORDERED ON MARCH 11TH, 2022, IN A MATTER OF THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE VERSUS KEVIN OR BENSON JANICE, SHE BANKS 1873 CAROLINA STREET. THE REASON FOR RESCISSION OWNER HAS COMMITTED TO SAKINA REPAIRING THE PROPERTY TO USE AS A RENTAL PROPERTY WITHIN EIGHT MONTHS BY COUNCIL. AND MCALDIN COLEMAN IS ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 88. WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MOTION BY THE CHAIR, THE SECOND 75 COUNCIL MEMBER HER'S ITEM MAYBE HAS BEEN APPROVED, WE GO TO ITEM 89, [89. 22-00748] AUTHORIZED THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ACQUIRE FRUIT PURCHASE EXCHANGE AND OR INSTITUTIONAL BREX APPROPRIATION PROCEEDINGS TO TAKE SUCH OTHER ACTIONS AS MAY BE REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THE ACQUISITION OF LAND NECESSARY FOR THE SOUTHEAST REGIONAL WASTEWATER CONSOLIDATION PRODUCT PROJECT. ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR IS ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AUTOMATED NINE ANYMORE. WE SHOULD JUST BE AUTOMATED. NOW, WHEN I GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 89? SO MOVED BY COUNCILMAN BATAM SECONDED BY THE CHAIR. ANY OBJECTIONS WE GO NOW TO ITEM 90, [90. 22-00736] AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRESIDENT ON BEHALF OF BMS TO ANSWER TO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH JOSEPH P HOLLINSWORTH FOR THE LEASE OF FACILITIES LOCATED AT 9 0 2 0 CASTLE ROAD, BUILDING A FOR THE PURPOSE OF OPERATING IN A STATION BY EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 90? WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO MOVED BY COUNCIL NUMBER, ADAM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE NOW GO TO ITEM 91, [91. 22-00742] AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRESIDENT TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND SOLUTIONS GROUP. THIS CONTRACT WILL HELP IDENTIFY AUTO INSURANCE POLICIES TO BUILD IN THE EVENT OF MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT BY EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. IT WAS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 91. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 91. WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL NUMBER, SO MOVED BY COUNCIL NUMBER ADAMS SECOND BY A CHAIR. WHEN I GO TO ITEM 92, IF THERE'S [92. 22-00741] NO OBJECTIONS TO AMEND THE 2022 CURRENT EXPENSE BUDGET FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES TO APPROPRIATE $5 MILLION FROM THE FUND BALANCE ON A SIGN TO PROVIDE FOR INTERGOVERNMENTAL TRANSFERS TO THE LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HOSPITALS FOR UPPER PAYMENT LIMIT THE MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM BY EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 92 NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. SECOND ABOUT A CHAIR AND NOT WITHOUT A MARRIED THREE [93. 22-00739 (Part 1 of 2)] AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE. AND FOR THE PARISH OF EAST BAY WAS TEMPTED TO AN INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT CONTRACT WITH THE JUVENILE COURT OF EASTERN RELIGION PARISH IN THE AMOUNT OF $63,468 TO CONTINUE TO OFFSET COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH OPERATING THE FENCE PROGRAM FOR THE PROBLEM OF JUVENILE SERVICES BY JUVENILE SERVICES DIRECTOR. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 93, COUNCIL NUMBER BANKS, COURTNEY SCOTT, WAITING ON COURTNEY SCOTT TO COME UP. AND YOU SAID NOT COURTNEY SCOTT, COURTNEY, SCOTT, SCOTT. YES, SHE WOULDN'T ANSWER, BUT OH, I WILL COME RIGHT BACK TO THAT ONE. LET'S GO TO ITEM 94, AUTHORIZING THEIR PRESENCE AS THE KEY UTILITY [94. 22-00745] RELOCATION AGREEMENT WITH DEMCO FOR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH MOOD BR ANTHEM PROJECT MACHHOLZ VOLVO, LOUISIANA, 64 PRIOR PORT HUSSON IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $700 OR SOMETHING AND $83 AND 98 CENTS BY TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE DIRECTOR. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 94? WE'RE NOW GOING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS THEIR MOTION. SO MOVED BY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO GO TO THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ITEM BY ITEM 94 HAS BEEN APPROVED. THIS IS, UH, COURTNEY HERE. YOU'RE GOING TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PEOPLE AT HOME AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND AUDIENCES. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 93 [93. 22-00739 (Part 2 of 2)] COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS. OH, OKAY. OH, OKAY. SO, UM, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 331,000 AND 115,000, UM, THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE ACCESS TO AS IT RELATES TO YOUTH SERVICES. WHERE DID THAT, WHERE'S THAT MONEY COMING FROM? ARE YOU REFERRING TO ITEM NUMBER 93 RELATIVE TO JUVENILE SERVICES? OR ARE YOU REFERRING TO A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM? I'M NOT REFERRING TO ANY ITEM I'M MAKING A GENERAL STATEMENT. YEAH. YEAH. SO NUMBER 93 IS RELATIVE ONLY TO, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. LISTEN TO THE QUESTION. SO THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 331,000 A HUNDRED, ONE 50 THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ACCESS TO FOR YOUTH SERVICES. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT FUNDING IS COMING FROM? I DO NOT. OKAY. SO, UM, THE 63,468, [01:50:03] WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? UH, THAT'S MONEY. THAT'S APPROPRIATED BY THE LEGISLATURE DIRECTLY TO THE LOUISIANA SUPREME COURT. SO THE LOUISIANA SUPREME COURT IS THE OVERSIGHT SYSTEM FOR THE FINS PROGRAM. AND SO FOR THE LAST FEW DECADES, UH, THIS MONEY HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO OUR JUVENILE SERVICES DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM. AND SO THEY REPORT BACK TO THE LOUISIANA SUPREME COURT ON THE EFFICACY OF THE PROGRAM. SO WITH THIS PROGRAM, BECAUSE I DO DEAL WITH THE PROBATION, OFFERS THIS THROUGH FANS AND THEY, UM, SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, AND THEY ARE BASED ON ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL, UM, ON AN INTRODUCTORY ITEMS, SHOULD I, WHICH IS THAT AN INDICATION THAT THESE FUNDS, THAT THERE ARE FUNDS THAT WE WOULD VOTE ON IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TODAY? IT'S JUST THAT IT'S A MATTER OF WHERE IT WOULD GO. WHICH ITEM ARE YOU REFERRING TO? SO I CANNOT, I CANNOT REFER TO ANY PARTICULAR ITEM. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING. SO IF THERE'S FUNDING ON AN ITEM THAT WE WILL BE VOTING ON IN 30 DAYS, IS THAT, IS THAT FUN AVAILABLE TODAY? WE JUST NEED TO ALLOCATE IT TO A PARTICULAR LOCATION. CORRECT? I DON'T THINK I KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IF THERE'S AN ITEM THAT YOU PUT ON IT, DO YOU HAVE THE MONEY OR IS IT IN THE AIR AS IT RELATES TO 93? IF THERE IS AN IMAGINARY ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAMS, UM, IT IS OWN THAT THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO INCREASE THE CONTRACT. WE AGREED TO THE CONTRACT. WE'VE ALREADY APPROPRIATED THE MONEY FROM VARIOUS SOURCES DEVIATING FROM ITEM 93, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MONEY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO IMAGINARY 93. SO, BUT I HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT I CAN DO IT, THE, THE, MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT IN THE FUNDING ALLOCATION AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD, RIGHT? SO, SO LINDA, WHERE DID THE FUNDING COME FROM? WELL, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THE MOTION SHONA SO THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECOMES YOUR MAIN TO THE TOP. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN ADD THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT WILL YOUR QUESTIONS ARE GERMANE TO THE TOPIC. SO FOR NUMBER 93, UM, THE FENCE UNIT CONSISTS, AND THIS IS RELATIVE WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL NIGHT ABOUT COLLABORATING AND MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE GETTING WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. SO THE FENCE YOU'RE ON A CONSISTENT PROBATION COUNSELORS, RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESS AND WALK-IN SERVICES. MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, NINE TO FOUR SCREENING FAMILIES FOR ELIGIBILITY MAKE A REFERRAL TO COMMUNITY SERVICES. WE HEARD THAT TONIGHT COORDINATING SERVICES FOR CASE MANAGEMENT. I THINK WE'VE MADE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED DIRECT AND SUPERVISING YOUTH AND FAMILIES PLACE ON INFORMAL OR FORMAL, THE FAMILY NEED SERVICE PROGRAM. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TOOK, THAT WE ADD $331,150 TO THE 63, 4 68 FOR A TOTAL OF 394,006 14 TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE FENCE PROGRAM. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, ASKED YOU, BUT WE CAN'T INCREASE THAT ITEM WITHOUT PROPER NOTICE. CORRECT. SO WHAT W SO, I MEAN, I, I COULD MAKE YOU SAY I CAN MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW I NEED TO CLARIFY, I NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LINDA GET UP, MAN. THANK YOU, MR. RASHAD. I'M FINISHED. THANK YOU, MR. SHAW, BUT I DO NEED TO CLARIFY YOU ALL MY TIME. NO MISS RESHAD. OKAY. SO YEAH, SO LINDA, SO SINCE THEY IMAGINARY FUNDS, WE'VE WHAT I HAVE MEANT TO WHAT MY, MY GOAL WAS TO ESTABLISH THAT THE FUNDING IS THERE. AND I THINK ALL NIGHT WE'VE ESTABLISHED THE NEED AND WHAT'S MISSING IN THESE PROGRAMS. SO WE HAVE TO, THEY SAID WE HAVE TO GET PRIVATE, BUT WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO FUNDING ALL THE TIME. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S ABOUT, BUT ANYWAY, SO WHAT I'M ASKING, UM, IS YOU HAVE VERIFIED THAT THE FUNDING HAT HAS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR IT TO EVEN BE ON THE INTRODUCTORY ITEM. AND THAT IS COMING FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES. DO YOU KNOW THE SOURCES? THE SOURCES WERE TALKING ABOUT THE INTRODUCTORY ITEMS? NO, [01:55:01] NO, NO, NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT IT 330,000 THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT. RIGHT. I WANT TO KNOW, WHERE WOULD I GET? $331 AND ONE 50 FROM TO ADD TO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM RIGHT HERE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS FAMILIES IN NEED OF SERVICES. THAT'S ADMINISTERED BY JUNE THE JUVENILE SERVICES PROGRAM. AND THIS $63,000 COMES FROM THE STATE TO ASSIST THEM IN THAT PROGRAM. EXACTLY. WHY? SO IF THERE, BUT THERE'S A DEFICIT. AND SO THERE'S AN INTERAGENCY CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH JUVENILE COURT, BUT THE FUNDING IS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY CANNOT RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING? AND WE USED TO DO GRANTS FOR THEM ALL THE TIME. THANK YOU CAN RECEIVE ADDITIONAL. YES MA'AM BUT IF IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DESIGNATED FOR THIS PURPOSE. RIGHT. SO I WOULD HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER ITEM ON, BUT I JUST WANT TO CLAIRE TONIGHT, MY WHOLE GOAL WAS TO VERIFY THAT THE MONEY EXISTS AND FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE. YEAH, IT WAS SET ALREADY FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ITEM CROSSING THE LINE. AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU OFFLINE AND GET IT FOR NEXT TIME. EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT IDEA. COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M JUST GIVING AS DO MY TIME. IF SHE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING TO SAID, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, THAT FINS IS A SUPREME COURT'S OVERSIGHT PROGRAM THAT MONEY IS ASSOCIATED OR APPROPRIATED RATHER BY THE LEGISLATURE. AND SO THAT ACCOUNTABILITY SOLELY RISKS WITH THE SUPREME COURT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU, MS. RICARD. WELL, NO OTHER SPEAKERS ON ITEM. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ITEM MOTION TO APPROVE OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, MOST SETTING HER BY COUNCIL NUMBER HERS. NOW WHAT ITEM 95 [95. 22-00746] AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRESIDENT TO EXECUTE A FINAL DESIGN SERVICES WITH GRISHAM SUBMIT TO ASSOCIATED WITH ME BR CORRIDOR ON HALF MY PROJECT PLANK ROAD CORRIDOR OR HALF FROM SEGMENT TO DAWSON DRIVE TO HARDING AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED DURING THE $4,272 BY TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINS DIRECTLY. AND IF ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 95, I AM 95. WE'RE NOW GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROCKER. WHEN I GO TO ITEM SIX, AWARDING [96. 22-00756] THE CONCEPT OF STORM WATER DIVISION PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES TO SELECT THE VENDOR JACOBS ENGINEERING. AND I RECOMMEND EXECUTION OF CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $750,000 BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 96? WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, MOTION TO APPROVE BY ROCK OR SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MOTE, SIX HAS BEEN APPROVED. WE'VE GOT ITEM 97 [97. 22-00749] AUTHORIZING THEIR PRESIDENT TO APPROVE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE BATON WAS GREEN TO PROVIDE LANDSCAPING SERVICES FOR SOUTH SHORE WITH FALLS BOULEVARD, LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $72,406 BY TRANSPORTATION JOURNEYS DIRECTOR WAS EVERYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 97, WHEN I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS MOST APPROVED BY ROCCA SETTING BY ITEM ADAMS AND WHAT ITEM ON THE EIGHT [98. 22-00747] AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR. PRESIDENT OF BEHALF OF THE DIVISION OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT OF SERVICES. HE'S BEEN WITH PARIS, HIS STAR PROGRAM TO APPLY FOR THE AD, EXCEPT THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT INCREASE TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY OFFICE OF HEADSTART IN THE AMOUNT OF TOURING $57,091 BY THE HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR. IS HE WISHING TO SPEAK ITEM 98? I MEAN, I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. IS THERE MOST APPROVES? SO MOVED BY HERS SECOND TO BY ITEMS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ITEMS 99 [Items 99 - 103] THROUGH 1 0 3 TOGETHER. I HAVE A 99 AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT AND OR ROSCOE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT FOR ABSTRACT AND SERVICES. AND BECAUSE BOTH SOUTH TITLE RESOURCES, LLC, IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTHEAST REGIONAL WASTEWATER CONSOLIDATION PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $65,000, I DON'T WANT A HUNDRED AUTHORIZED MAYOR, PRESIDENT AND ROSCOE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT FOR APPRAISAL SERVICES WITH AGUILAR CONSULTANTS, LLC, IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTHEAST REGIONAL WASTEWATER CONSOLIDATION PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000 ITEM 1 0 1 AUTHORIZING THEIR PRESIDENT AND OR PROSECUTOR ROSCOE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT FOR APPRAISAL SERVICES WITH LATE BOLD LLC IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTHEAST REGIONAL WASTEWATER CONSOLIDATION PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000. I HAD 1 0, 2 AUTHORIZED IN THEIR PRESIDENT AND OR ROSCOE DIXIE TO CONTRACT FOR ACQUISITION SERVICES WITH MICRO FREEMAN AND CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTHEAST REGIONAL WASTEWATER CONSOLIDATION PROJECT AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $84,000 ITEM 1 0 3 AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PER PANDORA, ROSCOE TEXTS YOU TO CONTRACT [02:00:01] FOR ACQUISITION SERVICES, GF WILSON ENGINEERING, LLC, IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTHEAST REGION OF WASTEWATER CONSOLIDATION AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $84,000 BY ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 99, 2 1 0 3. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS. WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER, MARK SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS ITEM 99, 3 1 0 3. I'VE BEEN APPROVED. WE GO TO ITEM 1, 0 4, [104. 22-00758] AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRESIDENT TO EXECUTE IT AGREEMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH H AND TB CORPORATION FOR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH OBTAINING FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS FROM BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW BILL, AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $910,076. INAPPROPRIATE THAT SOME FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE ON A SIGN FOR SAID PURPOSE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 0 4. WHEN I'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SOME OLD BY COUNCIL MEMBER VOTED A SECOND BY COUNCIL NUMBER ROCKER. WHEN I GO TO ADJUDICATED PROPERTIES, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ITEMS 1 0 5 TO 1 24 TOGETHER. [Items 105 - 124] I HAD A 1 0 5 LOT 14 POINT AND 15 SQUARE, TWO SUBDIVISION EDGE WOOD LAWN DISTRICT SEVEN HIGH BITTER SHANDRA AND PORTER, 14,000 501 0 6 LOT 19 SQUARE, 36 SUBDIVISION GREENVILLE EXTENSION DISTRICT SEVEN HIGH BIDDER AUGUSTUS PROPERTY LLC. $100 ITEM 1 0 7, LOT 81 SUBDIVISION ROLAND ACRES DISTRICT ONE HIGH BIDDER SOUTHERN UNITED INC $66,000 ITEM 108 BY 10 SQUARE, THREE SUBDIVISION, SOUTH BEND ROOS, DISTRICT 10. I BUILT A NINA UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. $100. I HAD A 1 0 9 LOT 1200 SQUARE AT 3, 4 8 SUBDIVISION POWERS DISTRICT 10 HIGH BIDDER VICTORIA HORNS BE $300 ITEM ONE, 10, LOT 37 SQUARE AT 30 SUBDIVISION UNIVERSITY PLACE. DISTRICT TWO BRINGS HIGH BIDDER TAMRA WHITE $100 ITEM ONE 11, LOT 53 SUBDIVISION GLENOAKS DISTRICT FIVE HIGH BID O'DELL AVID $400 ITEM ONE 12, LOT 42 SQUARE NINE. SO DIVISION EVEN PARK DISTRICT SEVEN HIGH BID OF JOE W. WILLIAMS, $1,000. I HAD A ONE 13 LOT 41 SQUARE, 30 SUBDIVISION GREENVILLE ADDITION DISTRICT SEVEN HIGH BIDDER JOHN, A FOREMAN, $500. I HAD A ONE 14 LOT 30 SUBDIVISION DAVIS LOTS DISTRICT TO HAVE BIT JUUL PROPERTIES, $100 AT A ONE 15 LOT 13 SUBDIVISION MADDEN DISTRICT TWO HIGH BIDDER JUUL PROPERTIES, $100, BUT I HAD A ONE 16 LOT, 1 59 SUBDIVISION HOLIDAY ACRES DISTRICT TWO HIGH BID, A JUUL PROPERTIES, $100. I HAD A ONE 17 LOT 17 SQUARE, 15 EAST FAIR FIELDS. DISTRICT SEVEN HIGH BIDDER. CHRISTOPHER IS GRANTED $25,000 ITEM ONE 18 LOT NINE SQUARE, TWO SUBDIVISIONS GLORY TO TERRACE DISTRICT TWO HIGH BID AT KELLY SMITH, $6,000 ITEM ONE 19 LOT FIVE SQUARE, ONE SUBDIVISION PARK VIEW DISTRICT 10 HIGH BIDDER AND A HARRIS $18,700. I HAD A 1 22 SQUARE 35 SUBDIVISION GREENVILLE EXTENSION HIGH BID A DAY ONE AUTOSAR LLC, $7,600. ITEM 1 21 BY 23 SQUARE 18 SUBDIVISION EAST FAIRFIELD'S DISTRICT SEVEN HIGH BIDDER CHARLES AND CLOVIS WARD, $17,700. ITEM 1 22 PLOT 11 SUBDIVISION FAIR LANE DISTRICT FIVE HIGH BID, A DERRICK DUNBAR, $1,000 ITEM 1 23 BLOCK 51 SUBDIVISION GREENDALE DISTRICT FIVE HIGH BID OF SOUTHERN UNITED INCORPORATING $24,000 ITEM 1 24, A LOT 22 SQUARE, 15 SUBDIVISION FOODS FROM DISTRICT FIVE. WELL, THAT'S IT. THE MOTION TO APPROVE OUR, EXCUSE ME TO ANYONE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS? 1 0 5, 2, 1 24. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS? 1 0 5 TO 1 24. SO MOVED BY HIM ALSO SECONDED BY ADAMS ITEMS. 1 0 5, 2, 1 24. HAVE ALL BEEN APPROVED. WE NOW GO TO ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS SHOWING NONE AND GO TO APPOINTMENTS. ITEM 1 25. [125. 22-00846] HOUSING AUTHORITY OF EASTBOUND WAS PARIS CONSIDERATION. UH, REAPPOINTING REPLACING DIANA PEYTON, WHOSE TERM EXPIRES ON JULY 25TH, 2022 EFFECTIVE JULY 26TH, 2022. THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR TERM. CURRENT BALLOT IS DIANA PEYTON. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 25. NOW I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL NUMBER. GO THE SECOND ABOUT A CHAIR, CONGRATULATION MS. PEYTON ITEM 1 26 CAPITOL [126. 22-00848] REGION PLANNING COMMISSION, CONCURRENT AMIR PRESENTS RECOMMENDATION TO J DANIELS. THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE JULY ONE TO 2022. IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM WITHOUT GO TO COUNCIL? UH, MOTION TO APPROVE SECONDED BY FIRST MOTION IS MADE BY COUNCIL. MADAM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, HERS. CONGRATULATIONS, JACK DANIELS, MY FRIEND, UH, HE'S BEEN APPOINTED. CONGRATULATIONS [02:05:01] TO ITEM 1 27 [Items 127 - 133] CONCURRENT IN THE MAYOR. PRESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT MR. JOHNSON. THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE JUNE 1ST, 2022. CURRENT BALLOT IS MAR JOHNSON. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 27. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ITEMS 1 20 17 ITEMS AND ONE TOGETHER. WE'LL GO TO ITEM 1 28 CONCURRENT WITH THE MIRROR PRESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT AND WERE PLACED IN A SHELTER AND BLOG POST TERM EXPIRES ON JULY 2ND, 2022, CURRENT VALID THINGS, SHELTON BLUNT ITEM 1 29. CAPILLARY FINANCE AUTHORITY CONCURRENT WITH THE MAYOR. PRESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT BLAINE, GRIMES WHOSE TERM EXPIRES ON JULY 1ST, 2022 EFFECTIVES. LAST SECOND. CURRENT BALLOT IS BEING BRYANT GRIMES. I HAD A ONE 30 CAPITAL AREA FINANCE AUTHORITY CONCURRENT WITH THE MERE PRESENCE, RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT OR REPLACE RUSSELL MOSLEY, WHOSE TERM EXPIRES JULY 1ST, 2022. CURRENT BALLAD RUSSELL MOSLEY ITEM 1 31 CONCURRENT WITH THE MAYOR PRESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT OR REPLACE SHARON PEREZ, WHOSE TERM EXPIRES JULY 1ST, 2022 EFFECTIVE JULY 2ND, 2020 TO CURRENT BALANCE SHARON PEREZ ITEM 1 32 CAPITA FINANCE AUTHORITY CONCURRENT WITH THE MAYOR PRESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATION TO REAPPOINT THEM REPLACE VALERIE THAT SNYDER WHOSE TERM EXPIRES JULY 1ST, 2022 EFFECTIVE JULY 2ND, 2022. CURRENT BOUT A RIFF SNYDER. FILL OUT, EXCUSE ME. 1 33 CAPITA FINANCE AUTHORITY CONCURRENT WITH THE MAYOR. PRISON'S RECOMMENDATION TO REPLACE JASON THROWER, WHOSE TERM EXPIRES ON JULY 1ST, 2022 EFFECTIVE JULY 2ND, 2022. MR. DORA WAS NOT SEEKING YOUR APPOINTMENT. JUST THE FORM IS A SIX YEAR TERM. CURRENT VALID IS MORE AND CHROME. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS? 1, 1 27 THROUGH 1 30, 20, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED BY GOLDIE SECONDED BY ADAMS ON 27TH AT 1 33 HAS BEEN APPROVED. WE NOW GO TO ACCEPTANCE OF LOW BIDDERS ITEMS ON [134. 22-00831] 34. THEN WITH METROPOLITAN AIRPORT JANITORIAL SERVICES, BARREL JANITORIAL, LLC, $289,080. ITEM 1 34 IS ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOKE. IS THERE SOMEONE HERE THAT HANDLES THE CONTRACTS OR AIRPORT? OKAY. CHORUS IS COMING THOUGH. MY KID CHRISSA COMMENT. WAS IT, WASN'T THERE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS CONTRACT? AS FAR AS SOMEBODY SUBMITTED A REQUEST, UH, TURNED IN THEIR PROPOSAL AND IT WAS A COSTING THING OR SOMETHING, OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT CONTRACT? THAT'S A RELATED, IT WAS CLEANING SERVICES FOR THE AIRPORT. YES, SIR. SO THE PREVIOUS VENDOR CHOSE NOT TO RENEW. WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED BUDGET AND A BUDGET ALLOCATED, UH, AND DESIGNATED FOR JANITORIAL SERVICES WAS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE. THE BIDS THAT CAME IN WERE ANOTHER 125 TO 150,000 ABOVE THAT. SO WE DID NOT HAVE A PATH FORWARD TO FUND HALF MILLION DOLLAR JANITORIAL CONTRACT GOING FROM TWO 50 TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT OUR FORECAST WOULD BE 300, 3 25 OR CLOSER WITH THE AIRPORT, REVISE THE SCOPE TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE COULD SAVE MONEY AND STILL KEEP THE AIRPORT, UH, YOU KNOW, PRISTINE AND THE SHOWCASE PROPERTY FOR EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH. SO WE ORIGINALLY WENT OUT, ALL THE BIDS CAME IN WAY TOO HIGH. WE DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE. WE SUBSEQUENTLY ADJUSTED THE SCOPE. WE WENT BACK TO MARKET AND THIS WAS THE RESULTS OF THAT. OKAY. I THOUGHT WHEN HE CAME IN LOW OR, BUT IT, UM, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THAT'S WHY Y'ALL PUT IT BACK OUT. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT GOT RESOLVED, BUT THAT WAS, I THINK I COULD BE THE WRONG ONE. THE KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT THEN. OKAY. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ITEM AND WE DON'T JUST DISGUISE THEIR ITEMS THAT ARE THING. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INFORMATION. THANKS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I DON'T WANT 34. SO MOVED BY HER SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MODE. I AM 1 34 HAS BEEN APPROVED RIGHT ON 1 35 CHIPPEWA [135. 22-00854] STREET AREA, ADA TRANSITION, PROJECT GRADY CRAWFORD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, $277,231 AND 50 CENTS. IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 35. WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, MOST TWO APPROVED BY ROCCA SETTING BY HERS. WHEN I WOULD ITEM 1 36, [136. 22-00855] IT DOES NO OBJECTION. EAST BATON ROUGE, FLOOD RISK REDUCTION PROJECT BY WHO FOUND CLEARING A SNAGGING VANGUARD PACIFIC $2,343,447 AND 80 CENTS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 36 AND NOT GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS? MOTION TO APPROVE. I GO TO THE SECOND AND MY ITEMS CAN NOW GO TO ITEM 1 37 [137. 22-00856] FAIRFIELD AVENUE, AREA, ADA TRANSITION, PROJECT HONORARY COMPANIES, LLC FIREMAN, $16,398 AND 57 CENTS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 37. WE'RE NOW ABLE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SOME MORE BY ITEMS, SENDING IT BY MOCHA NOW OR THE ITEM AT 38, 1 38, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION [138. 22-00860] [02:10:01] AND WE'LL FENCE REPAIR REPLACEMENT AND A VARYING CONSTRUCTION. SEE $290,985 A DAY. ANYONE HERE IS WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1 38. WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOKE BY THE 1 38 HAS BEEN APPROVED. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO EMERGENCY [140. 22-00850] ITEMS, ONE 40 AUTHORIZED IN THEIR PRESIDENT. AND BRASCO EXECUTED CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH SHRED KURKENDAHL AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOUTHEAST REGIONAL WASTEWATER CONSOLIDATION PROJECT FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $450,000 BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. REASON FOR EMERGENCY THE FUNDING AGENCY IS REQUIRING, DESIGNED TO BE COMPLETE. BY THE END OF THE YEAR, IMMEDIATE APPROVAL WOULD ALLOW THE CONTRACT TO BE EXECUTED A MONTH EARLIEST SINCE THERE IS NO MEETING ON JULY 13TH, THIS EXTRA MONTH IS CRITICAL AND COMPLETING THE DESIGN AND THE TIME ALLOWED IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OREGON WAS 1 64, 4 TO DECIDE TO MUST BE DECLARED AN EMERGENCY BY TWO THIRDS VOTE OF THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL. IS THERE A MOTION TO DECLARE THIS ITEM EMERGENCY? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL NUMBER ADAM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER. MOKE IS DONE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE ITEM BEING DECLARED AN EMERGENCY. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? 1 31 40. WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO A MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MOVED BY COUNCIL NUMBER MOST SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN OF ADAMS. NOW WHAT ITEM? 1 41 [141. 22-00858] AMENDING AND REENACTING ORDINANCE 1 8, 3 7 8 ADOPTED JANUARY 12TH, 2022, WHICH ESTABLISHED VOTING PRECINCTS WITHIN WARS ONE, TWO AND THREE. AND HE SPENT WHICH PARIS AND DESIGNATING POLLING PLACES. SO AS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE FOLLOWING POLLING LOCATIONS GO ONE PRECINCT 10 AMB FROM PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH THE PARK ELEMENTARY MEDICAL ACADEMY WARD ONE PERSON 45 FROM POLK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO BE ABLE TO GUARD CENTER AND REESTABLISH DESIGNATED POLLING LOCATIONS FOR ALL OTHER PRECINCTS WITHIN THE PARIS OF EAST BATON ROUGE, BY REGISTERED AS A VOTER WHO NEEDED FOR EMERGENCY TO MAKE THESE CHANGES BEFORE QUALIFYING FOR FOLLOWING ELECTIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDINANCE 1 6, 4, 4 TO DECIDE IT MUST BE DECLARED AN EMERGENCY ABOUT TWO THIRD VOTE OF THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL. THERE'S A MOTION TO DECLARE THIS ITEM, AN EMERGENCY. SO MOVED BY HER SEVEN OF MY MOAT. ARE THERE, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT BEING DECLARED AN EMERGENCY? IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM NOW GO BACK TO COUNCIL. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SOME MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOKE? I HAD 1 41 HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THEM. 1 39 RECEIVING A REPORT [139. 22-00755] FROM THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE ON THE CALL. A PROJECT PROCESS FOR THE FUTURE. COMMUNING HAS BEEN PROGRAM BY TRANSPORTATION IN GERMANY, AS DIRECTOR COME ON DOWN FOR IT. WE'LL HAVE TO REPORT FIRST. AND IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AFTER THE REPORT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN'S NOT WAITING FOR, TO GET PULLED UP. AND I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR, UH, NOT SENT OUT A BUNCH OF INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN AID. SO THEY'D KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THE PARAMETERS ARE GOING TO BE. AND, UH, I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE ITEMS TONIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION. ALSO, YOU WILL FIND IN THAT PACKET AND I INCLUDED GIVES YOU THE INTRODUCTION OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT. AZA IS A SHORT VERSION, BUT IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE DETAIL ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE ASKING ABOUT. BUT JUST AS IMPORTANT, I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT IN THIS PACKAGE AND IT GIVES YOU THE CRITERIA AND THE STEPS, BUT MOST IMPORTANT PART IS, IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A PROJECT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO FILL THIS FORM OUT. I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. SO IT WON'T BE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT, UH, I DON'T EXPECT Y'ALL TO BE THE DESIGN MASTERS, AND I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO BE THE ENGINEERS TO DO ALL THE WORK. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR PROGRAM MANAGERS THAT WILL ALSO HELP YOU AND ASSIST IN DOING WHAT'S NECESSARY IN FRONT OF A PROJECT, SOME METALS, BUT THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE LAST THING I'LL TELL YOU IN CASE YOU DO WANT TO DO IT, THERE'S THE LAST SHEET WE HAVE HAS AN ESTIMATE OF COST. WHAT IT WOULD BE PREFERRED ON VARIOUS, UH, PROPOSITIONS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT. BUT REALISTICALLY, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK WITH YOU TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH OUT OF ALL THIS IN WELL COMING UP. OKAY. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE, WE'RE TALKING APPROXIMATELY 60 DAYS TO SUBMIT THESE PROPOSALS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, YOU ALL HAVE AN IDEA THAT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SAID, THIS IS THE DATE FROM THIS DATE. UH, CAUSE AT THIS POINT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS. IT'LL PROBABLY BE SOMETIMES REAL SOON BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO YOU. WE WANT THAT INFORMATION BACK. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MANAGE THE MOVIE, OUR BUDGET, AND HAVE FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR NEXT YEAR TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED BY THE, UH, UH, UH, [02:15:01] THE COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GET STARTED. I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME, BUT JUST THE FUTURE COMMUNITY HANDSOME PROGRAM, IT'S ABOUT 45, 40 $9 MILLION. ACTUALLY IT'S CLOSE TO 40, 45. OKAY. WE'VE SPENT ABOUT 5 MILLION ON THE LAKE PROJECT, WHICH WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO, FROM A SIDEWALK AND A NECESSITY ASPECT OF THAT. YOU'LL SEE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY WANT TO LOOK AT IS SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES PASS, AND SOME LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED WITH THAT NEXT CALL FOR PROJECT OVERVIEW. WE, UH, IT WAS KIND OF IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAYOR ALSO WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL WAS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. AND CERTAINLY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE LIKED THAT ALSO. SO YOU, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE IN YOUR DISTRICT. WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE HELP YOU AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO YOU WOULD BE REALLY THE ONES WHO WOULD BE SPONSORING THESE PROJECTS TO CERTAINLY YOU CAN HAVE SUB SPONSORS AND ITEMS LIKE THAT, BUT YOU WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE'LL GO OVER TONIGHT, THE SELECTION PROCESS CLEARLY DEFINED AND LIMITED BY AVAILABLE FUNDS. THAT'S VERY TRUE IN ANYTHING WE DO. SO I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE FIRST ROUND OUT SO WE CAN BUDGET THAT FOR AND I MOVIE MOVIE, OUR PROGRAM FOR NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S WHY WE ALSO ASK IF, AND THIS WILL PROCESS WILL PROBABLY BE GOING ON FOR PROBABLY TWO TO THREE OR FOUR YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SPENDING ALL THE MONEY AT ONE TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY RIGHT NOW. SO ALL OF IT AT THIS POINT, UH, OBJECTIVE CRITERIA WOULD ENSURE PROJECT SELECTION ON THE GREATEST PUBLIC BENEFIT AND FUNDING DISTRIBUTED FAIRLY THROUGHOUT THE PARISH. THAT IS OUR TENT. THAT IS OUR GOLD BECAUSE WE LIKE TO BE SURE THAT EVERYBODY, UH, HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PORTION OF A PROJECT IN THEIR AREA THAT IS VERY MINIMAL FOR, TO THE PUBLIC MOVIE, OUR PROGRAM MANAGERS, AS I SAID, UH, WE'LL PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THIS PROCESS, CERTAINLY AS YOU WELL KNOW. SO WE, I MEAN OUR PROGRAM MANAGERS RIGHT HERE AT JASON CRANE AND ALSO MIKE, BRUCE, UH, THOSE ARE THE, WILL BE THE KEY LEADERS AND HE WILL ALSO HAVE PEOPLE HE CAN ASSIGN TO HELP YOU WITH THAT PROCESS. SO, UH, PROJECT ELIGIBILITY NEXT, I'M SORRY, PROJECT ELIGIBILITY PROJECTS MUST INCLUDE SOME OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ENHANCEMENT ASPECTS IN REALISTIC TERMS, MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS, SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, PATHS, MULTI-USE PATHS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, I SAID, WHAT IS A MULTI-USE PATH? WELL, IT'S A COMBINATION SIDEWALK AND BIKE LANES. SO IT'S NORMALLY ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 FEET WIDE. SO IT GIVES YOU IF YOU WANT TO DO, HE HAD A ROOM ON ONE SIDE, YOU COULD PUT THAT PROJECT IN ONE LOCATION AND ACCOMMODATE THE, UH, ISSUES, UH, TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ISSUES, CROSSWALK, PET CROSSINGS, THINGS LIKE THOSE CAN BE INCORPORATED IN THAT. AND THE, AND IF YOU'RE SEEING THIS PROGRAM IS IT'S REALLY DIRECTED AT BEING MOBILITY AND MAKING IT MORE SAFELY FOR PEOPLE TO WALK ALONG OUR ROADWAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT ALSO TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, UH, THAT WAS, COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND CERTAINLY WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL AT A LATER DATE, BUT THEN YOU HAVE BEAUTIFICATION AND STREETSCAPING THEN A PART OF IT NEXT PLEASE, COMMON PROJECT GOALS SHOULD BE SAME GOALS OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE, AS I'VE JUST MENTIONED, ENHANCEMENT ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE SAFETY, UH, PROVIDE ACCESS TO DESIGNATIONS. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF YOU HAVE AN AREA AND YOU GET A LOT OF PEOPLE, I ASK THEM, MY KIDS CAN'T GO TO THE PARK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WALK ON THE STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT AND TRYING TO, TO ACCOMPLISH FROM A RESIDENTIAL. SOME PEOPLE ALSO WILL LOOK AT WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO BETTER GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, A COUPLE OF BLOCKS DOWN, BUT I DON'T WANT TO WALK IN THE STREET ALSO. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME GENERAL, UH, IDEAS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND, AND, AND THINK ABOUT, UH, SUPPORT AREAS FOR HIGH PEDESTRIAN, BESSON USAGE, UH, PROVIDE PROVIDED, IMPROVED ADA. EVERYTHING WE DO ON OUR PROGRAMS ON A MOVIE OFF IS DRIVEN BY ALSO ADA. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET CRITICIZED. I CAN'T GET HERE AND I CAN'T GET TO THAT POINT BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE, BUT EVERY PROJECT WE DO WE'LL MEET THOSE ADA REQUIREMENTS, UH, SUPPORT OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, SUCH AS A TRANSIT SYSTEM. UH, CERTAINLY WHAT THOSE ARE TO PROVIDE SIDEWALKS, MAYBE TO SOME LOCATIONS WHERE THE BUS TRACK, UH, BUS STOPS ARE, AND YET GIVE PEOPLE, UH, FOR MORE AND MORE MOBILITY. [02:20:01] UH, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL WORK WITH THAT GROUP ON. WE'LL BE SURE THAT THAT'S FROM THE, UH, TRANSIT ASSOCIATION ALSO COMPLETE AND, UH, EXISTING PEDESTRIAN NETWORKS. I'LL TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AND, AND IN THE COMING SLIDES, GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. ADDITIONAL ASPECTS OF POSSIBLE PROJECTS, UH, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HEAR THAT A LOT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND CERTAINLY, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS TONIGHT WAS TO ALSO LOOK AT THE COUNCIL APPROVED WAS PLANTING OF TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND, AND SOME OF THE BOULEVARD, WHICH WE THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT FROM A GREEN ASPECT STANDPOINT, BUT IT ALSO IMPROVES WATER QUALITY AND QUANTITY. AND THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WHERE WE, WE WILL LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT YOU MAY PRESENT TO US. THEY CERTAINLY WILL HAVE TO BE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT JUST AS IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY JUST A DOLLAR, BUT IT'S ALSO DOES IT FIT THE NEED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH ADA, I MENTIONED AND BEAUTIFICATION LANDSCAPE NEXT, PLEASE, PROJECT CRITERIA, SIGNIFICANT USE OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY. YOU ALL PEOPLE PROBABLY KNOW YOUR AIR IS BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE, AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE. AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER IS BUILT. NORMALLY WE WANT TO BE SURE PEOPLE END UP USING IT. THAT IS THE REAL PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM TO START WITH. AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WELL, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PLACES ALONG MANY RAILWAYS THAT THERE'S NO SIDEWALK, BUT YOU CAN TELL SOMEBODY IS USING CREDITS AND WALL MUD WHITE. SO PEOPLE MUST BE USING IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IF THERE'S ENOUGH USAGE AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER AN APPOINT, UH, BY SAFETY, UH, FOR PEDESTRIANS, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR BIKE GROUP, OUR BIKE COMMUNITY IS PRETTY AVID ABOUT THAT. AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER, UNDER THE SAFE STREETS. UH, WE WANTED A FEW PASSIONS AND OUR REGION, IT HAS A BIKE AND PIT MASTER PLAN. AND NOW WE WERE GOING TO GO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO ENHANCE THAT AND BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED THAT SHOULD BE IN PLACE NOW. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU ON THE, UH, THE PROJECT CRITERIA. NEXT I PROJECT SELECTION PROCESS, YOU KNOW, A PROJECT NOMINATION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD DO. YOU SUBMIT THE PROJECT PROPOSAL, WHICH I'VE, IT'S ATTACHED INTO THE, UH, UH, POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT I GAVE YOU, BUT ALSO WE WILL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. CERTAINLY IT'S NOT EASY OR SOMETIMES, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU DO AS A PROFESSION, BUT WE DO HAVE STAFF THAT CAN HELP YOU AND ACCOMMODATE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THAT. UH, WE, OUR SELECTION PROCESS THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AND EVALUATED, UH, APPROVALS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AND ULTIMATELY THE FINAL, UH, DECISION REALLY COMES TO METRO COUNCIL, APPROVING THE BUDGET. AND IN ALL HONESTY, YOU KNOW, UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THESE PROGRAMS FOR SOME TIME, JUST MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET IT THE FIRST YEAR DON'T MEAN YOU CAN'T GET IT THE SECOND YEAR. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY PROBABLY TO DO EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY WANTS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS AND HAD THE BIGGEST IMPACT NOMINATION, BECAUSE IT SAID, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU EARLIER, UH, OH YEAH, IT'S CALLED FOR PROJECTS. WHEN THAT DATE IS, I CERTAINLY WILL TELL YOU THAT PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, UH, WE'LL PUT OUT AN EMAIL TO YOU, BUT I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WANT TO SAY IT STARTS TODAY AND YOU GOT 5,000 QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND HOW YOU NEED TO DO IT. AND CERTAINLY OUR TEAM WILL BE MORE, UH, READY TO HELP YOU AND ASSIST YOU. BUT IT WILL PROBABLY BE SOMETIME THIS MONTH IN REALITY, ONLY BY THE FACT THAT THE SOONER WE CAN GET YOU UNDERWAY AND WE GET PROJECT AS SOONER, WE CAN EVALUATE IT AND LOOK AT WHAT PROJECTS WE THINK WE CAN DO. AND THE SOONER THAT WE CAN DO IS PUT IT INTO BUDGET, COULD FINANCE FINANCES, AS YOU KNOW, HOW FINANCE IS. THEY ARE VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT LET'S HAVE MONEY SHARED MONEY SET IN THE PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT TOO. AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT AT THREE. SURE. WE GET YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. NEXT PROPOSAL, I TOLD YOU, HE SHOWED YOU THE PROPOSAL FORMAT. IT'S PRETTY, IT'S NOT DIFFICULT GUYS, BUT YOU KNOW, BUT PEOPLE WHO DON'T LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY, IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE. OUR PROGRAM MANAGER HAS HELPED ASSIST YOU. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE MY NUMBER, NUMBER ONE, THAT FOR SURE. BUT NUMBER TWO, IF WE DON'T, WE'LL GET YOU LINED OUT WITH OUR PROGRAM MANAGERS TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO ADDRESS THAT. UM, AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT, UH, ALL PROJECTS MUST BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE DATE SPECIFIED IN A CALL FOR PROJECT NOTIFICATION LETTER. AND I WILL SEND THAT OUT, UH, SOMETIME IN THE NEXT WEEK OF SOMEONE NEXT [02:25:01] REVIEW AN EVALUATION, JUST SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO CONSIDER. AND I HAD SOME OF Y'ALL KNOW, BUT SOME THAT I'VE TALKED TO ALREADY TODAY, UH, DIDN'T, UH, DIDN'T QUITE ON THE GRAPH, SOME OF THE CRITERIA, BUT APPROXIMATE TO SCHOOL AREAS. AND THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT TO GET KIDS OFF WHO WALK TO SCHOOL, IT'S BETTER ABOUT FOR THEM TO BE WALKING IN THE SIDEWALK AND WALKING INTO THE STREET. THOSE ARE THINGS RIGHT AWAY, ACQUISITION NEEDS. I'LL TELL YOU IF WE HAVE TO BUY A PROPERTY, THE CHANCES OF THE PROJECT GETTING DONE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST TO THAT, AND THAT'S GOING TO LOWER THE OVERALL VALUATION. SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE YOU KNOW THAT, BUT WE CAN GET IN THAT THE DETAIL, AND YOU MAY NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO BE AT YET. AND WE'LL TELL YOU WHETHER WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY OR NOT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU IN THAT ASPECT, BUS STOP LOCATIONS. MOST OF THOSE COULD BE IN OUR RIGHT AWAY, BUT SOME MAY OR MAY NOT BE, BUT JUST AREA HARD, PEDESTRIAN BIKE TRAFFIC, UH, DO YOU, WE HAVE BOTH ADULTS AND THEY ALL THROUGHOUT OUR PARISH. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UH, IN COST, UH, COUNTABILITY ABILITY. THAT IS GOING TO BE A FACTOR. I MEAN, WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING THAT'S $10 MILLION THAT IT DON'T GO VERY FAR WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO SPREAD THE MONEY OUT THROUGHOUT THE PARISHES. SO LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS. CERTAINLY THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FACTOR AND ROAD CLASSIFICATION. AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME ABOUT THAT. I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CERTAIN CLASSIFICATIONS OF RAILWAY, SOME RESIDENTIAL STRAIGHT, SOME MULTIMODAL STREETS. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHAT THOSE ARE, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. AND WE WOULD TELL YOU THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE FOR A GOOD PROJECT FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA. NEXT LAST THING, HERE IS BUDGET APPROVAL. AND YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, OH NO, I GOT TO STEP FORWARD. FINAL STEP, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY. AFTER REVIEWING ALL THE EVALUATIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND NOW WILL BE WHERE YOU CAN COME HOLLERED MAKERS, WHY YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR ESTATES YEAR TO NEXT YEAR, BUT OUR TEAM WILL BE WORKING AND LOOKING AT DOING EVALUATIONS. AND WE MAY EVEN BE CALLING AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE SEE. DID YOU LOOK AT THIS? DID YOU LOOK AT THAT? AND THOSE TYPES OF FACTORS AND BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WHAT OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO WITH IT AND DO IT FAIRLY AMONG THE DISTRICTS, BUT JUST AS IMPORTANT, WE GOT TO STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET TO ALSO, UM, OUR, OUR PLAN WAS TO, TO GET THE PROJECTS APPROVED. AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO JUST GO START CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE MANY OF THESE WILL PROBABLY NEED PLANS ENGINEERING, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE COST, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GET THIS STUFF TOGETHER. BUT WHEN WE GIVE YOU THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT'S ALSO FOR ENGINEERING ALSO, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DO. SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT THAT TOTAL COST IS GOING TO BE IN REFERENCE TO THE OVERALL PROGRAM. UH, AND AS I SAID, WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FROM A FUND STANDPOINT, LAST ONE, BUDGET APPROVAL EVERY YEAR, WE'LL STILL BE COMING TO YOU WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED. AND, UH, YOU CERTAINLY Y'ALL WILL HAVE INPUT IN REFERENCE TO THAT. AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF OUR GOAL WAS, IS TO GET AS MANY AS WE CAN AND, AND, AND MAKE A REAL IMPACT WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE'S A NEED OUT THERE. AND THE BIGGEST NEED I HEAR HAS BEEN MORE ABOUT SIDEWALKS. YOU KNOW, I HEAR PEOPLE COMPLAIN TO ME THE MOST ABOUT SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES. WE DON'T NEED SIDEWALKS. AND THEN I SAID, WELL, I DON'T LIKE MY KIDS WALKING IN THE STREETS, YOU KNOW? AND SO, UH, AND IF IT'S IN OUR RIGHT AWAY AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, WE'RE GOING TO BILL A SIDEWALK. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. SO, BUT ALL THAT COSTS MONEY. AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THESE, THESE PROJECTS IN, HAVE A VALUATION DONE SO WE CAN DO, UH, PROPER, UH, BUDGETS AND, AND MEET THE CRITERIA THAT'S NECESSARY FROM THAT. I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM, ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM. WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL NUMBER HUDSON, UH, FRED REAL QUICK. WOULD, UM, STREET LIGHTING FALL UNDER ANY OF THESE CATEGORIES? WOULD THAT BE A POSSIBILITY? UM, THE ONLY TIME THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT STREET LIGHTING COUNSELING, IT WOULD BE IF IT'S IN THE CONSOLIDATED ROAD LINE IN DISTRICT, BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO DO, UH, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO CREATE A CONSOLIDATED LIGHTING DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO PUT ONE STREET LIGHTS IN IT. PART OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO UNDER THE, UNDER THE, UM, UH, GRANT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS TO LOOK AT UPGRADING OUR STRAIGHT LINES. I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH [02:30:01] EVERYTHING WE WANT BY THE FIRE BEING IN AREAS THAT ARE NOT IN WHAT, WHAT THEY DEEMED THE LIGHTING DISTRICT. AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO CREATE A LIGHTING DISTRICT FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE. AND LOTS OF TIMES THAT'S NOT REAL POPULAR. UH, CERTAINLY IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT AND THEY WOULD WILLING TO PAY FOR NOW THAT, WELL, WE WOULD PAY FOR THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE FUTURE MAINTENANCE AND THE UTILITY COSTS ON THAT. AND THEY NORMALLY SPREAD THAT OUT OVER MANY, MANY YEARS OF THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MOPE. YEAH. UM, QUICK QUESTION IS STOP CUTTING ON MINE. I KNOW MY DISTRICT COVERS THAT AREA, BUT FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE OTHER CITIES IN OUR DISTRICT, DOES THAT INCLUDE THOSE AREAS ALSO? OR, AND AGAIN, UM, I MEAN, I USUALLY LOOK AT PLANNING CERTAIN THINGS OUT, UM, IN CERTAIN WAYS, CAUSE I KNOW I HAVE AREAS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF A PARTICULAR CITY LIMITS. SO IS, ARE THOSE AREAS TO BE LOOKED INTO ALSO, CAN THEY BE LOOKED INTO, OR SHOULD WE FOCUS ON, UH, OTHER AREAS? MY SUGGESTION IS THAT, AND THEN I'LL SAY THIS, BUT IT COULD BE BOTH BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, IF WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT BROADENING INTO THE CITY, THEN WE PROBABLY WOULD ASK FOR THEM TO LOOK AT JAMAICA AND SOME CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THAT IMPROVEMENT, BUT IT'S A BENEFIT FOR THEM, CORRECT? I MEAN, SO I WOULD SAY YES, WE COULD. I THINK THE, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO TRY TO GET THESE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE OUT THERE BY THEMSELVES AND TRY TO ENHANCE THEIR, THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME IMPROVEMENTS. BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY, YEAH. YOU AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE WILL DO THAT, EVALUATE THE EVALUATION, BUT I WILL JUST TELL YOU IF WE LOOK AT THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO THE, UH, THE CITY, UH, TO LOOK AT MAKING SOME TYPE OF CONTRIBUTION NOTED. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. COUNSELING THE MEMOS. THANK YOU FOR IT. SO DO YOU, HAVE YOU RECEIVED, UM, UH, COMMENTS FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT HOW THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR CERTAIN DISTRICTS OR WHAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH US? I HAVE TOLD, I EXPRESSED TO THEM PUT IT IN WRITING TO, YOU KNOW, TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE DONE. I DIDN'T TELL THEM TO FILL A FORM OUT, BUT I DID SAY SO THEY COULD AT LEAST BE CONSIDERED UNDER THOSE ISSUES AND THE ONES THAT DO HAVE, AND I'M HAVING FROM A GOOD, BETTER TO COUNCIL THAT I'M GOING TO FORWARD THOSE ON TO YOU CERTAINLY. THAT'S NOT MY DECISION. AND I TOLD HIM THAT'S A REALLY BEER COUNCIL, BUT I'D BE GLAD TO HELP THEM, YOU KNOW, SKIP IT TO THE RIGHT PERSON. GOTCHA. THANK YOU, FRED. I'LL COME SEE YOU ABOUT DISTRICT SEVEN. I'M SURE YOU WILL. YES, SIR. I SURELY EXPECTED THAT. YES, SIR. YES. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION? BY THE WAY, I JUST WANT OUT A COMMENT WHILE WE TALK ABOUT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PUSH AND A LOT OF, UH, UH, CALLS AND A CONCERN, NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT BARCO TOWER, BUT WERE PLACES WHERE THEY DIDN'T FINISH UP THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY. AND THERE'S ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE SUBDIVISIONS THAT I DO KNOW ABOUT. AND THAT I'VE LOOKED AT TO ME. THESE WOULD BE A PRIME EXAMPLE, UH, TO ACCOMPLISH THAT SAME GOAL. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR, WE APPRECIATE YOU APPRECIATE THE REPORT AS ALWAYS. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WORKED FOR THE CITY OF PARIS JOINING US THIS EVENING, WHETHER YOU HAD TO OR NOT. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. I NEED YOU TO SIT THROUGH THE WHOLE MEETING CAUSE I LIKE YOUR SOCKS, SO OH, HOW YOU DOING MS. PAY BASE FOR COMING DOWN AS WELL? WE APPRECIATE YOU. UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN COUNCIL? NO, MA'AM MOROSE. IT IS MOST TO AJERA 70 BY COUNCIL MEMO AS ALWAYS READ TO YOUR CHILDREN. WHEN YOU'RE DONE READING TO THEM, HAVE THEM READ BACK TO YOU. I HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYED THE TIME AWAY AND HAS A HAPPY HOLIDAY. UH, GOD BLESS YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.