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JUST ONE REMINDER

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COUNSELING.

[Redistricting Map Meeting]

REMEMBER THAT THE MEDIA IS HERE.

TRY NOT TO GIVE THEM THE STORY.

WHAT DO I CALL DEMOGRAPHERS DEMOGRAPHERS AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

I'M NOT SURE IF THIS MIKE IS I DID.

I THINK IT IS.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOOD.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TURN THIS OFF.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD.

SAYING ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE Y'ALL BEEN DOING WELL SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, UH, AFTER OUR MEETING, UH, WHERE WE STARTED WORKING ON A LESSON PLAN ONE, WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THAT, UH, WHICH I EXPECTED AND WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, WE ENDED UP WITH A PLAN CONFIGURATION THAT I LABELED PLAN TO.

I SENT THAT OUT TO Y'ALL ALONG SOME INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT MAPS, ALONG WITH SOME SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE USE OUR DEMOGRAPHICS, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE RACIAL CATEGORIES.

UM, AND WHAT I WANTED TO DO TODAY IS START WITH PLAN TWO, UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AT THE LAND ONE.

AND REALLY AT THIS POINT, WE'VE COVERED ALL THE PRELIMINARIES ON THE FIRST ONE, KIND OF THE CRITERIA WE USE, UH, HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING IT.

I THINK Y'ALL GOT A REALLY GOOD FEEL FOR HOW THE SOFTWARE WORKS.

AND SO I REALLY WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO WHAT CHANGES WITH DISCUSSIONS Y'ALL WANT TO, UH, LOOK AT AND YOUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS OR THE, OR THE PLAN AS A WHOLE.

UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, OF COURSE I CAN BACK UP AND YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CRITERIA.

I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THAT.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR.

CAN YOU REMIND US AGAIN, THE, THE NUMBERS, OBVIOUSLY THE DISTRICT NUMBER 79 IS THE ERROR THAT YOU REMIND US, REMIND US THE NUMBERS THAT ARE SEEN THERE ON THE SCREEN IS YOUR NUMBER FOLLOWED BY ABSOLUTELY CAT.

AND IF YOU CAN READ THEM, OKAY, THEN I'LL LEAVE THEM AT THAT SCALE.

IF YOU NEED THEM LARGER, I CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THE LARGER, THE TOP NUMBER IN EACH OF THOSE BLACK BOXES.

TOP NUMBER IS YOUR DISTRICT NUMBER.

THE MIDDLE NUMBER IS THE DEVIATION.

THAT IS WHETHER YOU, AS A PERCENTAGE OF WHETHER YOU'RE HIGH OR LOW OF THE DISTRICT AVERAGE, IF ALL Y'ALL HAD THE EXACT SAME POPULATION AND YOUR DISTRICT GET A ZERO DEVIATION, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T VARY ABOVE OR BELOW THAT, BUT THAT MIDDLE NUMBER SHOWS AS A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR VARIANCE.

WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THAT WITHIN A PLUS OR MINUS 5%.

AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT HERE IN A PARISH WITH THIS SIZE AND, AND, UH, POPULATION.

UH, THE NEXT NUMBER, THE THIRD NUMBER IS THE, UH, NON HISPANIC DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE BLACK CRITERIA.

I MEAN, DOUBLE CHECK, MAKE SURE I HAVEN'T GOT ONE APART FROM USING THE OTHER ONE.

HANG ON ONE MINUTE.

OR IF I'M USING A STRAIGHT GLASS, I MEAN, ONE MINUTE.

YES.

DOJ BLACK.

THAT'S THE CRITERIA FROM THE, UH, THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS USED FOR THE AGGREGATION OF RACE ON REDISTRICTING PLANS.

AND IT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2000, THE 2000 CENSUS THAT'S WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED COLLECTING MULTI-RACIAL DATA FOR THE CENSUS.

THE BOTTOM NUMBER IN THAT A REDDISH COLOR IS THE ESTIMATED REGISTERED VOTERS, THE BLACK REGISTERED VOTERS IN EACH OF THOSE DISTRICTS.

THESE ARE BASED FROM THE AUGUST 24, UH, 2021 VOTER DATABASE.

AND IT'S DIS-AGGREGATED FROM THE PRECINCT LEVEL DOWN TO CENSUS BLOCK, AND THEN REAGGREGATE IT BACK UP TO YOUR DISTRICT LEVEL.

THEY ARE VERY CLOSE.

THEY MAY NOT BE EXACT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A REALLY GOOD IDEA ABOUT WHAT YOUR REGISTERED VOTERS WERE AS OF AUGUST, NOT A REAL BIG CHANGE FROM THE OCTOBER DATABASE AND THE DECEMBER DATABASE, BUT WE ALREADY HAD EVERYTHING PRE-PROGRAMMED IN FOR THE AUGUST.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

SO AGAIN, TO RECAP, DISTRICT DEVIATION, UH, DEPARTMENT JUSTICE, BLACK, AND THEN BLACK REGISTERED VOTERS AS A PERCENTAGE, AND I CAN ZOOM IN, PICK UP ALL THE DETAILS THAT YOU WANT, WHATEVER YOU WANT, I THINK IN YOUR LAST, UH, COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT OUR LAST MEETING ABOUT, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING TO, I THINK WHAT PRODUCT ENDED UP LAST TIME WAS, UH, FIVE BLACK DISTRICTS, SIX WHITE PREDOMINATELY WHITE DISTRICTS AND ONE SWING DISTRICT.

I THINK SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN SEEING WHAT COULD BE POSSIBLE.

HOW, HOW COULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GO TO THE SIX, SIX? AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS IN YOUR COMMUNICATION.

YOU SAID YOU WOULD EXPLORE WITH THEM IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THIS TIME.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN

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EXPLORE.

NOW, THERE ARE SOME GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IN DOING THAT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN DO AN EXPLORATORY, UH, MODELING AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT IF WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN EASILY DO.

WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

IF IT TAKES US SOMEWHERE, THEN WE'LL GO THAT WAY.

IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE HIT SOME DEAD ENDS AND YOU WANT TO BACK UP AND KIND OF RECAP, THEN WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

UH, WITH, UH, ANOTHER, ANOTHER AVENUE, A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL TAKE DIFFERENT PATHWAYS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SOME GET US WHERE WE WANT SOME DON'T SOMETIMES WE HIT A DEAD END AND WE JUST BACK UP AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S TRY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT APPROACH.

SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, UH, CRITERIA RIGHT NOW, THE DISTRICT THAT HAS PROBABLY CHANGED SOMEWHAT AND GOTTEN MORE, UH, UH, BLACK POPULATION IS YOUR DISTRICT.

EIGHT DISTRICT EIGHT STILL CAME IN AT A 39% BLACK POPULATION WITH YOUR CURRENT DISTRICT, 2020 NUMBERS, UH, TO GET THAT HIGHER, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO GO AND PICK UP EITHER MINORITY POPULATION IN THE NEIGHBORING DISTRICT TO THE NORTH, OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHED SOME OF THE WHITE OR NON-MINORITY POPULATION PROBABLY TO THE SOUTH.

SO THOSE WOULD BE THE GENERALLY TWO WAYS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, UH, APPROACHING THAT, UH, I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.

OF COURSE, WE WANT TO TRY TO USE POLL PRECINCT.

SO WE'LL GENERALLY WE'LL DO THAT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A WHOLE PRECINCT FIT.

WE CAN SPLIT THAT.

WE WERE DOING SOME OF THAT, UH, LAST TIME ON THE NORTH END OF THE, UH, OF THE DISTRICT.

I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA ON THIS, THE PINK LINES ARE YOU CURRENT DISTRICT BOUNDARIES? AND I CAN TURN THOSE ON AND OFF, AND I CAN ALSO SHOW YOU WHAT YOUR VOTING DISTRICT BOUNDARIES ARE, WHICH ARE THESE DARKER COLORED BLINDS.

THOSE ARE YOUR PRECINCTS.

WE CAN MOVE THEM IN OR OUT.

YEAH.

SO THE NUMBERS, ALL THE NUMBERS I'VE SEEN THE NEGATIVE FOUR NEGATIVE 2.8 IS HERE.

SO ON.

EVERYTHING'S IN GUIDELINE WITHIN PLUS OR MINUS 5%, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THE SUMMER JUST ABOVE, BUT ALL OF THIS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW QUALIFIES TO SEND IN.

YES.

IT MEETS THE CRITERIA.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

YOU HAVE ONE THAT LIKE DISTRICT MINE IS 5.6, FOUR.

THAT'S NOT MATERIAL ENOUGH.

NOW THIS WAS A STATEWIDE PLAN.

YEAH.

5% ABSOLUTE 5.0, ZERO, ZERO, OR BLOOD.

UH, BUT THAT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT A STATE PLAN.

THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A LOCAL REDISTRICT AND YOU HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

LET'S GO LOOK AT DISTRICT EIGHT DISTRICT DISTRICT.

LET ME, LET ME GET YOUR, GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

UH, Y'ALL HAVE A, WE'RE GOING TO BE SETTING Y'ALL UP TO WHERE Y'ALL CAN DO THE ONLINE REDISTRICTING.

AND SO I HAVE BEEN READING, DOING YOUR LIBRARIES HERE TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT SET UP.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND SO I CAN GET YOU INCUMBENCY ON HERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T ADD THAT TO MY NEW MAP YET.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF WHERE Y'ALL ARE.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

DISTRICT EIGHT.

OKAY.

WHAT IS YOUR SCORE? SEAGULL BAR WHERE THE LITTLE MAN OF COURSE THE BOULEVARD OF THAT, WHICH WOULD BE CORSICA COUNTRY OR THAT AREA UP THERE.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S LET'S ADD THAT IN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

YOU WANT TO ADD THAT IN? CORRECT.

LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

WE'LL TAKE THE WHOLE PRECINCT, SEE WHAT IT DOES.

AND WE'LL PUT UP A LITTLE CHART THAT TELLS US WHAT THAT REPRESENTS ALL RIGHT.

THAT REPRESENTS 1900 PEOPLE.

IF WE ASSIGN THAT TO DISTRICT EIGHT, THAT PUTS YOU AT A 0.2, 9% DEVIATION, ALMOST RIGHT ON THE BUTTON.

THE ONE THAT WE'RE TAKING IT FROM WOULD BE DISTRICT NINE.

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AND THAT WOULD PUT IT AT A 0.61 AGAIN, ALMOST RIGHT ON THE BUTTON.

SO NO ISSUE WITH DEVIATION, PERCENTAGE OF BLACK AND A DISTRICT EIGHT WOULD BE AT 42.36, AND THEN IT'S NOT MATERIAL FOR NINE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY LOW IT'S 16.7%.

SO WE ASSIGN THAT AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR DISTRICT NUMBERS LOOK LIKE.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU LITTLE BOXES THAT IMPROVES BOTH.

YEP.

THAT'S A GOOD MOVE.

IF THAT WORKS.

IF THAT WORKS FROM A REPRESENTATION STANDPOINT, IT'S A GOOD MOVE.

NUMERICALLY.

IT'S A GOOD MOOD FROM DEVIATIONS OR WHATNOT.

UH, YOU LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR LITTLE CHART RIGHT HERE.

YES, IT DOES.

EVERYBODY IS WITHIN 5%.

GOOD MOOD.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND GO FOLLOW UP? PLAN THREE WILL BECOME A PLAN A TO BE CONSIDERED AT THE NEXT MEETING.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS, ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL WANT TO SEE WITH REGARDS TO MINORITY PERCENTAGES, THIS IMPROVES IT, BUT DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SIX DISTRICT OR MINORITY DISTRICT IS PRIORITY BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WANT US TO GO DOWN MAN, BECAUSE THE MODEL, BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, SOME ADJUSTMENTS WE MADE FROM THE LAST SIX, UH, I WANT TO JUST, IF YOU HAVE LIKE, UM, LET ME SIMPLIFY IT A LITTLE BIT.

I'M GOING TO JUST TAKE THE STREETS OFF FOR A MOMENT SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

THIS PINK LINE IS WHAT YOUR CURRENT DISTRICT IS.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE.

ALL RIGHT.

ADD THAT BACK INTO SHIFT ON DOWN 4,000 BULLETS OUT.

ALRIGHT.

AND TO PUT YOUR DEVIATION A LITTLE HIGH AT A 5.83 AND MINUS TWO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD.

ADD THAT IN.

I DO LOOK AT THE, UH, 5 0 4.

ALL RIGHT.

CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY IT'S IN FOUR, SINCE IT'S CURRENTLY IN FOUR FOR AN HOUR, PARK IT BACK AND FORTH.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN TO THE WEST ON THE WEST SIDE, WHATEVER THAT IS, WHEREVER IT CAME FROM.

ALL RIGHT.

LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS PART OF 11.

ALRIGHT.

THIS SIDE OF IT.

OKAY.

LET ME PUT THE STREETS BACK ON SO WE CAN KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF IT.

OKAY.

SO WE WANT TO GO THIS BACK INTO A 11 ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE ARE LOOKING AT 11 TO SLIGHTLY HIGH TO PLUS SIX.

UM, SIX IS GOOD AT A MINUS 2.5, NINE MINORITY PERCENTAGE OF 63.46 I'LL ZOOM OUT.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN OVERVIEW AND I WILL TAKE THE STREETS OFF FOR A MOMENT.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER WITH UH, IN SIX OR 11, 11 TO ONE.

IT'S A LITTLE HARDER.

OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PLUS SIX.

I PUT THAT, PUT IT OUT.

YES.

IF WE CAN GET IT DOWN A LITTLE CLOSER TO FIVE.

I LIKE THAT.

UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S REAL BIG ISSUE AT SIX.

AND WE STARTED GETTING AROUND SEVEN, EIGHT OR NINE WITH THE PARISH OF THIS SIZE.

UH, I WOULD RATHER NOT.

PLUS A MINUS FIVE IS REALLY WHAT WE CALL A SAFE HARBOR.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE COURTS BASED ON STATEWIDE DISTRICT LEGISLATION AND PROGRESSION BY LEGISLATIVE AND CONGRESSIONAL.

SO EVEN IF WE APPLY THAT ON LOCAL, THEN IT'S KIND OF SAFE HARBOR.

BUT IF WE STRAY A LITTLE BIT, IT'S NOT REALLY A BIG ISSUE.

YOU GET TOO FAR OUT, THEN YOU KIND OF START RUNNING INTO ONE MAN, ONE VOTE ISSUE.

OKAY.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, WHEN IS YOUR MAX MAX HOME OF MY COMFORT? WHAT WOULD BE YOUR MAX? PROBABLY NO MORE THAN SEVEN IN THE MORNING.

LOTS OF MONTICELLO.

AND THAT WOULD BE IF THERE WAS A GOOD REASON FOR IT,

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IF THERE'S, IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANT TO JUST KEEP YOUR GRANDMA ON YOUR DISTRICT AND IT PUTS YOU AT A PLUS SEVEN AND YOU TAKE GRANDMA OUT OF YOUR DISTRICT AND IT PUTS YOU IN A 5% RANGE, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT IN THE 5%.

RIGHT.

IF WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AS FAR AS LIKE KEEPING A SUBDIVISION TOGETHER AS A MICRO COMMUNITY OF INTEREST AND IT KIND OF THROWS IT OUT, BUT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE TOGETHER AND NOT BROKEN UP.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S A RATIONAL REASON.

OKAY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A TALK NUMBER.

SURE.

60.5 6, 5 7.

IF WE KEEP IT UNDER SEVEN I'M.

OKAY.

AND I'M REALLY HAPPY IF YOU KEEP IT IN FIVE, BUT I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT THE AREAS BY THESE DISTRICTS AND THOSE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THEIR AREA OF REPRESENTATION, MORE THAN THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR DEVIATION.

YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU TAKE SOMEBODY OUT AND SAY, WELL, LOOK, I REALLY IDENTIFY MORE WITH PEOPLE IN DISTRICT SIX.

AND I DO IN DISTRICT 11.

I'D RATHER BE IN DISTRICT SIX.

OH, WELL THE DEVIATION THREW YOU OFF.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT DEVIATION.

I WANT TO BE WHERE PEOPLE IDENTIFY WITH THOSE IRRATIONAL REASONS TO DO THAT.

BUT THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A PARAMETER, SIX AND A HALF SEVEN PLUS A MINUS.

WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT DISTRICT.

FIVE APPLES.

LOOK THERE.

ALL RIGHT, MR. DARRELL, ALL RIGHT.

THE PINK LINE IS WHERE YOUR CURRENT DISTRICT IS, AND THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE CHANGED AT OUR LAST WORKSHOP, THE STREETS ASSOCIATED.

AND IF YOU NEED THE STREET NAMES LARGER, JUST LETTING THEM SEE THE LOWER BOUNDARY THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS HOW PARK AVENUE AND IT'S FOLLOWING THAT, THAT, UH, DRAINAGE CANAL.

AND THEN IT COMES UP BY A WINNEBAGO AND COMES UP.

IT'S PROBABLY, I'M QUITE CERTAIN.

IT'S FOLLOWING THE PRECINCT, THE DISTRICT, THE DISTRICT, IF IT'S NORTH OF THAT KULA.

YES.

NORTHERN WIND BURN.

IF IT'S ON THE SOUTH PART OF THAT DRAINAGE CANAL, THEN IT'D BE IN DISTRICT SEVEN.

LET'S SEE IF WE GOT TO FUCK ON PARK.

OH, I'M SURE THE DRAIN IS CANAL BEHIND.

IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THE BACK OF IT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

IT DOESN'T, IT WAS JUST TAKEN AWAY.

AND VICTORIA GARDENS I'VE CURRENTLY, THAT IS, UH, ALL OF THAT AREAS CURRENTLY IN YOUR DISTRICT.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO WE ASKED YOU WAS FORCED IT TO GO DOWN.

LIKE WHAT DIRECTION DOWN WITH THAT FORCED TO, UH, AS FAR AS RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS WITH THIS CONFIGURATION.

IT WOULD JUST BE, IF YOU PREFER THE LINES DIFFERENTLY THAN IT CURRENTLY IS, UH, WHAT DROVE.

OH, WHAT DROVE IT? WELL, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR NUMBERS WERE.

BACK THEN.

YOU WERE DOWN 9%.

YOU WERE DOWN ALMOST 10% ON YOUR DEVIATION, YOUR CURRENT DISTRICTS IN 2020.

SO YOU WERE LOW.

SO YOU HAD TO PICK UP POPULATION.

SO YOU WENT, WE WENT FURTHER SOUTH TO PICK UP THAT POPULATION TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.

SO COLDWELL WAY IS NOW, I MEAN, RENO RESIDENCE.

YEAH.

UM, SO THE RIGHT THIS WAY, UH, YEAH, LOOK WHERE IT STARTS GOING TO THE SOUTH.

OKAY.

RIGHT NOW YOU FOLLOWING YOUR CURRENT BOUNDARY, THERE'VE BEEN NO CHANGE HERE UNDER THIS CALL BACK AND FORTH ON THIS, THAT SPLITTING UP.

I'M NOT SO A BIG LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE MODERATE.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.

MAYBE ALVIN STARTING TO RESONANCE

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THE SAME WAY, THE SAME WAY ABOUT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, ALL THE WAY IN MONTEREY, ALL THIS, UH, EASTERN PART OF SOVIET.

YOU HAD ONE CRIME PREVENTION DISTRICT WHEN THERE WAS ASSOCIATION AND THEY ARE STRICTLY ACTIVE, BUT YOU HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO IT'S REALLY CONFUSING THE NEIGHBORS AND WHO CALL TO GET WHAT DONE.

EVEN WHEN YOU CANVAS THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS A, UH, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

IT'S JUST CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU STOP AT A CERTAIN AREA, NEIGHBORS, REPRESENTATION, WHATEVER.

THERE'S ALSO THE WAY YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARIES, THE SOUTHWEST ABOUND, FOLLOWING A NEW FLANNERY CURRENT SOUND.

AND THAT GOES RIGHT HERE, RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA.

THIS IS GREENWELL SPRINGS ROAD.

IS IT? AND THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOLLOWING A, UH, A WATER FEATURE.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE INMATE RIVER.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

THIS IS HOOPER ROAD.

THAT'S SUPER TECHNICAL SO FAR.

AND THEN WHAT Y'ALL WANT, MAY WANT TO DO BETWEEN TWO OF Y'ALL.

WE CAN DROP THAT OUT OF THERE.

I, HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S ALREADY AT HIS MIND.

I KNOW THAT.

LOOK, I'VE SEEN, I'VE LOOKED BEFORE, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE AREA WHICH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH OTHER DIVISIONS I RAN THE SAME THING.

WHEN I, I WOULD CAMPAIGN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN A SUBDIVISION PARTS IN ONE SCHOOL BOARD DISTRICT, THE OTHER ONES TO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DEVIATE A LITTLE MORE.

SO IN ORDER FOR ME TO HAVE A MORE BALANCED DISTRICTS, I WOULD HAVE TO MOVE MY ENTIRE DISTRICT TO THE EAST BECAUSE OF THAT GO SALAD, WHICH IS A MINORITY BASED DISTRICT.

IF I GO NORTHERN I'M IN SHAUNA BANKS ROAD, ALL THE WAY TO THE PLAY ROOM.

IF I GO TO THE SOUTH, I WANT TO PUMP UP THE COLON.

THE COLON COLON IS COLD AS WELL.

THE SOUTHWEST COLON IS GOING TO BE SOUTHEAST.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, I'VE GOT THE RIVER SWIMMING.

SO I TAKE THE HOUSE, I GUESS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, AND I UNDERSTAND ON THE SPLITS AND STUFF, I GUESS WHAT I'M TO FIGURE OUT IS YOU'RE WITHIN DEVIATION AT NEGATIVE 2.5, I'M AT FINANCIALLY LOWER AT OTHER.

YOU GAIN THAT BACK TO 1.35.

SO EVEN BETTER ON THE DEVIATION.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHY DO YOU MAYBE ANSWER THIS? WHY, WHY DOES IT YOUR REPEAT, ADJUSTING AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT, UH, I THINK HE'S LOOKING AT THE 90% AFRICAN-AMERICAN IN HIS DISTRICT.

I DON'T FEEL DEFINITELY GREAT FOR REELECTION.

IT'S NOT GREAT TO HAVE.

YEAH.

IF WE LOOKING AT DRUNK, CREATE A SIX MINORITY DISTRICT, WE DON'T NEED 90% AFRICAN-AMERICAN DISTRICTS.

I THINK THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE POINT HE'S TRYING TO MAKE.

AND THE ONLY PACE FOR HIM TO MINIMIZE THAT 90% IS GO TO THE WEST SIDE, THE NORTHWEST, UM, TO ADDRESS ISSUE ON THE AREA OF THE BORDER.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY A MULTIPLE, UH, CONSTANT PEOPLE IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.

MATTER OF FACT, HE GOT THREE IN SHEAR WITH WARS AND LORD AARON.

AND I KIND OF TRIED TO CHANGE THAT, BUT WE HADN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL OF THE OTHER THING WE DIDN'T DO ON THE BOAT FOR US, THAT

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IS I CAN TAKE EVERYTHING FROM THEIR AWARDS THIS YEAR.

AND YOU STARTED MINIMIZING THAT, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO GET TO? SO TRANSPARENTLY, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING FROM ABOUT 90 TO TAD THE MOST ABOUT 80.

I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE HARD FOR ME TO BE JUST AS STRONG AS I HAVE TO GET TO A 56 TO 44 TIGHT RANGE, DEFINITELY GO FROM 92 TO SOMEWHERE AROUND 8% MAX, PROBABLY 75, BUT DEFINITELY SOMEWHERE AROUND 8%, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVICE A MORE DIVERSE POPULATION.

BUT ALSO SURE THE ISSUE WITH YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS IN THIS PARISH IS THAT IT'S ALMOST VERY, VERY DISTINCT.

ANYTHING NORTH OF FLORIDA IS JUST HEAVILY MINORITY.

EVERYTHING SOUTH OF GOVERNMENT IS HEAVILY WHITE IN BETWEEN.

THOSE TWO IS WHAT I KIND OF CALL A TRANSITION ZONE IS KIND OF YOUR MIXED DEMOGRAPHICS IS A LITTLE CLOSER, MAYBE TO 60, 40, 50, 50, DEPENDS ON WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS YOU GO TO, BUT IT IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GET YOUR, YOUR, YOUR MINORITY DISTRICTS AT A SO HEAVY AT 80 AND 90% TO TRY TO GET THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCED BETWEEN THE TWO.

WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SEE WHAT TO SHOW, WHAT COMBINATION MAY WORK.

WELL, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO TALK TO THEM, BUT I WANT A PAIR HAIRS REPRESENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, IF YOU OFFER HIM A GOOD PRICE, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY SELL IT TO YOU.

UH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AARON STAYS AT HOME, UH, AND THAT WE FIND A WAY OF SCREWING AROUND IS , BUT WE NEED TO MOVE SOMEWHERE MORE EAST WHERE I AM.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE WRONG, BUT I'M LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF TIMES ON GREENVILLE SPRINGS.

AND THEN WHAT YOU TOOK OUT OF FIVE OR SIX, YOU TOOK OUT A SIX KENNY KENNY USE THAT CORNER BOUNDARY WENT OVER THERE OVER, WHICH WENT TO NORTHERN .

THAT WAS THAT LITTLE FINGER RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE.

YOU TOOK THAT OUT OF SIX A SECOND AGO.

DEVIATIONS WORK.

IT'LL BRING YOUR BLACK PERCENTAGE DOWN A COUPLE OF POINTS FROM 90% TO 88.47.

AND I DON'T MIND, IT'S STILL DISTRICT LATINO AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN IT DOESN'T PUT ME IN THE MAJORITY AND MAJORITY TO MY DISTRICT BECAUSE I KNOW STEVE.

SO THAT DOESN'T WORK WELL AT ALL.

YEAH.

YOU PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE, AND YOU YOU'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE MIXED RACE COMING INTO OVER THE YEARS, BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN TO SEE HIM ABOUT RIGHT NOW, THEY ISSUE WITH THAT.

GEOGRAPHIC IS EITHER WE DID THAT, IS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT.

INFINITE POINT.

WE WOULD HAVE THIS SPLIT, THIS PRECINCT RIGHT HERE TO MAKE IT CONTIGUOUS.

IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD WANTED TO KEEP, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SOME OTHER ADJUSTMENTS, SEE WHERE THAT IS.

OKAY.

LET'S PUT THAT IN FIVE AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN TO THE CENSUS BLOCK LEVEL.

AND THAT WHOLE DAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO CUT YOU OFF FROM THE REST OF YOUR DISTRICT.

IT'S GOING TO CUT YOU OFF FROM THE REST OF YOUR DISTRICT.

IF I TAKE THAT PRECINCT, YOU SEE IT'S GOING TO COME ALL THE WAY UP TO HERE, AND THAT'LL SEPARATE THIS PART OF YOUR DISTRICT FROM THE REST OF YOUR DISTRICT.

SO IF WE, IF WE ADDED THAT, THAT'S WHAT THE DISTRICT LOOKED LIKE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBERS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

BREAK IT DOWN.

A COUPLE OF POINTS.

YOU'RE STILL IN THE MINUS 2.6, YOU LOST A LITTLE, BUT YOU SAID, WELL, WITHIN REASON THE WILDLIFE PART LET'S SEE WHAT THE POPULATION WAS.

I'M KIND OF CURIOUS.

17 PEOPLE THING IS I NEEDED AS A PATHWAY TO CONNECT THE MAIN AREA THERE TO YOUR DISTRICT.

THAT THAT'S, THAT WAS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF IT.

AND WE'RE KEEP IT OR TAKE IT OUT.

UM,

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THINK ABOUT IT.

YOU CAN LEAVE IT FOR NOW RUSHED TODAY.

OKAY.

OH YEAH.

WE'RE NOT IN A RUSH TO GET THAT.

I GOT A QUESTION IN THE BACK.

I MAY HAVE TO GET A MIC OVER TO YOU OR I'M BLACK.

UH, SO I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN HERTZ THAT 90% BLACK IS PROBLEMATIC FOR US.

AND I'M WONDERING WHAT HAS TO SHIFT ACROSS THE BOWL FOR US TO END UP AT THE PALACE.

AND THERE'S THE HERSEY BECAUSE CENTRAL ALONE AS HIS BORDER, IF EVERYBODY SHIFTS US, THAT HELPED ME END UP IN A POSITION WHERE THE LESSON HE DOES.

UM, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT MORE WHITE THAN STICK WITHIN THE DISTRICT, UH, THERE'LL BE LESS RESOURCES.

IN ADDITION TO, I'M TAKING A LOOK AT IT.

UM, C FIVE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP INTO THIS AREA HERE.

AND MY, MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT DOES MR. MOELLEKEN WHAT DOES THAT CHANGE HIS DEMOGRAPHICS TO, OR HIS VARIATION IN MS. MR. HER STATE'S MORE OF HIS POPULATION? WELL, IT DEFINITELY IS GOING TO LOWER HIS, UH, HIS DEVIATION.

SO HE'S GOING TO END UP HAVING TO MAKE THAT UP FROM ANOTHER DISTRICT FROM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS, WHICH IS, UH, THAT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE PUTS THE DEVIATION AT A, UM, LET ME PUT THAT IN FIVE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT THAT IN FIVE, THAT PUTS FIVE AT A PLUS NINE.

SO IF NEED NEEDED SOME LOSE SOME SOMEWHERE, AND THAT PUTS FOUR AND A MINUS 10, IF THAT AREA IN RED WAS ASSIGNED, THAT'S A WHOLE PRECINCT.

WHAT'S THAT IF YOU SPLIT THAT AREA THAT YOU MAY HAVE RAISED UP AS WELL, IT BRINGS DISTRICT FIVE AND 83% WITHOUT MAKING THE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE OVERPOPULATION THAT IT WOULD HAVE WITH THAT.

SO WE TOOK AREA OVERPOPULATION AROUND 4 0 4.

I DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IT.

AND I'M SPLITTING IT'S MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS, SO THAT'S OKAY.

DO YOU WANT TO PUT BACK IN SAP AND PUT IT BACK? YOU GAVE ME THE AREA AND THEN LET'S GO TO .

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

WHERE WERE YOU AT? ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S GOING TO PUT SEVEN, A LITTLE HIGH.

WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT WHERE WE'LL COME TO THAT.

IF IT LOOKS LIKE ANY OF THIS BEARS FRUIT.

OKAY.

THAT BRINGS YOU DOWN TO MINUS THREE.

NOW ON DEVIATION, IT BRINGS YOU A MINORITY PERCENTAGE TO 82.

SO WE WEREN'T GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

JUST SO TO THE LEFT RIGHT THERE, THAT LITTLE BLACK, I GOT A FEELING I'M GOING TO LEARN THAT PART HERE PRETTY QUICKLY.

I'M GOING TO KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE SMILED.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU WANT TO RAISE THE BORDER? MONTEREY IS A BORDER MONTEREY'S RIGHT HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THIS GOES INTO FIVE, JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.

THEY AT LEAST SIX LOW FIVES.

OKAY.

FIVE MINORITY PERCENTAGES, 82.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE, ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW WE'RE SIX HAS TO PICK UP FOUR HAS TO PICK UP BOB'S OKAY.

ONES.

OKAY.

WE DIDN'T BOTHER THE OTHERS SEVEN SEVENS ON THE HIGH SIDE WITH THE HOW PARK MOVE.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

WE PUT YOU IN WEST BATON ROUGE WHILE YOU STEPPED DOWN, SIX AND FOUR OUT AWAY, CORRECT? THAT AREA ABOUT HOW A PARK THAT WE CAME INTO YOUR DISTRICT, OR ON THE EARLIER PLAN, HE WANTS TO TAKE THOSE, PUT THAT BACK IN YOUR DISTRICT.

SO HE CAN PICK UP SOME GOING TOWARDS CENTRAL TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSE DEMOGRAPHICS IN HIS DISTRICT.

RIGHT.

SO IN DOING SO I WAS GOING TO LEAVE YOU A LITTLE HIGH, SO WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A LITTLE ADJUSTMENT,

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BUT I THINK WE MADE AN ADJUSTMENT EARLIER ON.

AND THE OTHER PLAN WE CAN LOOK AT THAT PROBABLY IS THESE FOUR LOW FOUR NEEDS TO PICK UP ABOUT 5% POPULATION FOR CAN'T PICK IT UP FROM ANYBODY OTHER THAN EIGHT.

UH, THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA KIND OF BROKE THIS PLATE DOWN.

YEAH.

I MEAN, THE PROBLEM GOING WITH NORTH IS THAT ONE IS ALREADY AT MONTESSORI.

SO IF I GO PICK THAT UP, THEN THAT'S GOING TO THROW ONE EVEN LOWER.

SO I PRETTY MUCH GOT TO GO DOWN TO DISTRICT EIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

IF YOU GO DOWN THIS TRACK WITH TAKING HIM FROM 92, YOU GOT, YOU'VE GOT TO, UH, IDENTIFY, I GUESS, EIGHT, LIKE YOU SAID, WAS THE ONE THAT MOST LIKELY WHAT HAPPENED THERE IS THAT BASED ON THE ADJUSTMENTS, I THINK THAT STUFF WAS THERE FORWARD HAVE TO COME IN AND PICK UP FROM A EQUITY NUP, HAVING TO COME PICK UP PROBABLY FROM, UH, FROM SIX FROM YOUR DISTRICT IN ORDER TO PICK THAT UP, UH, JUST LOOKING AT IT, UH, THAT'S ONE PRECINCT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BALANCE FOR OUT AT A PLUS 2.8, EIGHT WOULD BE A MINUS 12.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST PLAY WITH IT HERE.

NOTHING SET IN STONE.

NOTHING'S SET IN STONE UNTIL YOU ALL ADOPT THE PLAN.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SAY WE CAME AND JUST FOLLOWED THIS AND PICK THIS UP OUT OF YOUR DISTRICT.

PUT IT IN EIGHT.

NOW YOU'RE ALREADY LOW.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PICK UP SOMEWHERE FOR YOU TO YEAH.

LOOKING AT THE MINORITY.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE.

I LIKED, I LIKED PLAYING WITH THIS, UH, AND I LIKE, Y'ALL SEEN WHAT IT DOES GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY.

IF THAT PUTS EIGHT AT A MINUS SIX AND A 42% BLACK POPULATION.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY CHANGING, YOU KIND OF END UP GETTING IN THAT TRANSITION AREA.

UH, YOU'D HAVE TO GO FURTHER NORTH TO START PICKING UP SOME OF THOSE AREAS, UH, THAT WOULD BRING EIGHT INTO A MINUS TWO, BUT IT WOULD DROP THE BLACK POPULATION TO 41.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SAY WE TOOK THAT ONE INSTEAD.

IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD BOUNDARY THEN DEVIATION, BUT IT ONLY BRINGS IT TO 41%.

AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE DIFFICULTY COMES IN.

YEAH.

BUT THAT WOULD BRING IT INTO DEVIATION.

YOU'D HAVE TO PICK UP THE, OF THAT ONE OR THIS ONE.

NOW THAT WOULDN'T BRING IN A DEVIATION AGAIN, IT'S A 42.

STILL BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM WHERE IT WAS BEFORE.

HOW THAT WOULD LEAVE YOU AT 14.

THAT ACTUALLY LEAVES YOU THAT, UH, 14% LEVEL WAS 15%.

SO WE KNOW IS HIGH.

SO SEVEN WOULD HAVE TO COME.

AND WE GAVE THIS A SEVEN, I THINK EARLIER OUT 11.

YEAH.

THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO COME INTO YOUR AREA.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS.

BUT I DO LIKE TO USE AN AIRLINE AS A FOUNDRY WHEREVER WE CAN.

IT'S ALWAYS OKAY.

RIGHT BEFORE WE STARTED ALL THESE, YOU SAY THAT MA'AM YES.

I WAS PLANNING TO, WE MADE A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENT.

I'LL HAVE TO MAKE THOSE UP.

I CAN BACK THEM OUT AND GET US BACK TO, SO THAT'S 14.

NOW WHAT I LIKED ABOUT THE MAP, DISTORTED ALL OF THIS GOING DOWN THROUGH THIS IS EVERYBODY WAS AT DBA WITHIN THE DVA.

I WANT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, LET ME BACK IT OUT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT.

I'LL SAY THAT.

AND THEN WE CAN COME IN AS A VARIATION PLAY.

YES, I WOULD OPPORTUNITY.

I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE CHAINS.

YEAH.

THIS ONE, WE GOT SOME REALLY OUT OF BALANCE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE WHACKED OUT HERE.

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND BACK IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND WE'LL TAKE THAT OUT AND WE'LL TAKE THAT OUT.

WE'LL TAKE THAT OUT.

I KNOW YOU DON'T WANNA TAKE THAT OUT, BUT, UH, TAKE THAT OUT.

THIS IS WHERE

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WE STARTED RUNNING, RUNNING DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE.

WE'LL KEEP THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK, WHERE EVERYTHING WAS IN BALANCE AT THAT POINT, LET'S DOUBLE CHECK OUR NUMBERS.

YEP.

ON OUR DEVIATIONS.

NOBODY'S OVER 5%.

SO THAT'S THE POINT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? SORRY, LET ME GO AHEAD AND SAY IT THAT, SO WE, WE GOT THAT LOCKED IN.

I'M GOING TO COPY THAT AND THAT'S GOING TO BE PLAN 308, JUST SO WE KNOW IT'S A VARIATION FROM THAT, FROM THIS WORKSHOP WE'RE SAVING.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S YEAH, DISTRICT EIGHT.

WE MADE THOSE EARLY THAT'S IN HERE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHERE IT GOT THOSE TWO IN THERE.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE.

OKAY.

RIGHT THERE.

HOW DID YOU STILL WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATHWAY? YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THREE EIGHT BACK INTO WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY.

WE HAD THIS AREA GOING INTO FIVE AND TO MAKE A CONNECTOR.

WE HAD TO ADD THE 17 PEOPLE HERE THAT MAKES IT CONTIGUOUS.

AND THEN I KNOW I JUST SELECTED A PRECINCT AT RANDOM.

THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT ONE.

WE WANT TO DO ALL APART, UH, GOING UP TOWARD, UH, CENTRAL.

THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS NEXT TO YOU.

THAT'S THAT ENTIRE PRECINCT.

2,800 PEOPLE FROM WON'T TAKE IT ALL OR NOT.

LET'S, LET'S TAKE PART OF THAT FOR A MINUTE.

LET'S JUST IT'S CAUSE THAT THROUGH YOU DEVIATION OFF A LOT, AND THAT WAS STARTING TO HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY AND SEE WHAT SPLITTING THAT PRECINCT ON JUUL ROAD GOES.

NOW, SEE, THAT STILL KEEPS YOU IN DEVIATION BRINGS YOU TO AN 86% MINORITY POPULATION.

IT DOESN'T THROW FOUR OFF.

THAT MUCH FOUR BECOMES A MINUS SIX.

SO IF WE TAKE IT INSTEAD OF THAT GUY, THAT WHOLE PRECINCT, WE'LL TAKE PART OF THAT PRECINCT, SPLIT THAT THAT WORKS NUMERICALLY ON DEVIATIONS.

AND IT MOVES THE NEEDLE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT IT TO GO.

AND IT DOESN'T CAUSE A LOT OF, UH, DISRUPTION WITH THE OTHER DISTRICTS NOW WE DID NOT EVEN INCLUDE THE MONTEREY AREA.

THAT WOULD BE PLAYING THREE.

WELL, THREE, THREE HAS IT LIKE THIS.

SO IT'D BE, WHETHER Y'ALL WANT TO PUT THIS IN AS A THREE, A VARIATION OR NOT, LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES TO THE NUMBERS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT PUTS YOU AT A PLUS 10, SIX CAN HANDLE IT.

I'M ON A STREET AND DEVIATION THAT PUTS YOU AT A PLUS 10 TO AT 86%.

SO IT'S NOT MOVING THE NEEDLE ON YOUR MINORITY POPULATION AND JUST PICKING UP THE SUBDIVISION THAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO KEEP TOGETHER.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THAT OUT.

NOW THAT BRINGS US BACK OVER TO THE MODIFICATION THAT WE MADE IN PLANT TWO, WHICH IS AROUND HOW RIGHT HERE, THIS WAS PART OF DISTRICT SEVEN THAT WE ADDED TO DISTRICT FIVE AND PLANT TWO, WE TAKE THAT OUT.

BUT THAT BACK IN DISTRICT SEVEN OUT OF PROBABLY BRING YOUR NUMBERS BACK.

OH, THAT RIGHT THERE WORKS.

AND THAT, THAT DOESN'T WORK AS WELL.

BUT THIS DOES PUTTING THAT IN SEVEN, SEVEN, STILL WITHIN DEVIATION, IT GETS BACK PART OF ITS CURRENT DISTRICT.

YOU'RE AT A 1.83 BRINGS YOUR MINORITY POPULATION.

86 WAS ABOUT WHERE IT WAS BEFORE, UH, THIS CHANGE, UH, FOR JUST A SMIDGEN LOW AT A

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MINUS SIX.

SO WE MAY WANT TO TRY TO MAKE A NUDGE SOMEWHERE TO PICK THAT UP IF Y'ALL WISH.

OTHERWISE, I THINK IT'S FINE TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS, IF IT MAKES THE PLAN OF WORK BETTER.

UM, LET ME BRING IT OUT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

LET ME TAKE THE ROADS OFF SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET THE SENSE OF YOUR BOUNDARIES.

LET ME TAKE THE PRECINCT, SO, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK LIONS.

CURRENT WHERE YOU SEE THE COLOR AND GOES OVER IS WHERE YOU MADE A LINE CHANGE.

THAT'S WHEN WE GAVE PART OF THAT PRECINCT TO DISTRICT FIVE, THAT'S BROUGHT YOU LOW.

CAUSE IT TOOK SOME OUT OF YOUR DISTRICT.

YEAH.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES.

AND WE PUT IT BACK IN POPULATION.

MIGHT LOOK TO THE EAST SIDE WHERE THE HILL IS.

THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

HOLD THAT THOUGHT FOR JUST ONE SECOND.

THAT WAS THE, NO, WE PUT THE STREETS BACK ON SO YOU CAN SEE THEM THIS WAS AT PRECINCT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOME MORE, UH, WHITE POPULATION INTO DISTRICT FIVE.

THAT'S WHY IT WENT THERE.

LET'S SEE WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE OF THAT, THAT AREA.

THAT'S PART OF THAT PRECINCT.

THAT'S GOT 1300 PEOPLE IN IT OF WHICH 875, BUT WHITE 273 A BLOCK.

SO THAT PUTS MORE WHITES THAN BLACKS IN DISTRICT FOUR.

UH, IF WE PUT IT BACK INTO FOUR, THAT BRINGS YOU INTO BALANCE, UH, MINUS TWO DISTRICT FIVE, IS THAT A MINUS 1.63, BUT IT BRINGS THE MINORITY PERCENTAGE FROM 88 TO EIGHT.

I MEAN FROM 86 TO 88, I GUESS WHY DARRELL WAS LOOKING AT TRYING TO GO THAT WAY, TRY TO GET A LOT MORE DIVERSITY IN THAT DISTRICT.

I CAN MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.

IT JUST WORKING OUT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ALL OF US, WHICH I WOULD LIKE.

AND THAT'S WHAT ALL THIS IS.

WE'RE NOT IN THERE.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT TRYING TO ADOPT THIS TOMORROW AND THE BACK.

PARDON? MY IGNORANCE.

OKAY.

HEY, NO, THIS IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS EUROPE LAND.

THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S PLAN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO PARDON MY ENGLISH.

BUT IF I PARISH IS NOW BASICALLY 50, RIGHT? UH, DEMOGRAPHIC SOCIALLY, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE OR A 6 46 AND SOME OTHERS.

UH, AND I KNOW EVERY PERSON AT THIS TABLE ONCE THEIR OWN LITTLE THING IN THEIR DISTRICT, HAVE WE LOOKED AT A MAP THAT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE CONTINUITY THAT WAS, THAT JUST GETS US TO PARENT, RIGHT? SCRAP EVERYBODY'S LINES THE WAY WE SEE AND DRAW A MAP THAT PUTS EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IN THEIR HOME DISTRICTS, BUT GIVES US A, A PARISH THAT IS REPRESENTED BY THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE HAVE.

UM, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT WITHOUT EVERYBODY'S LIFE? JUST PINCH IT OFF.

I WANT THIS BECAUSE I LIVE IN A DISTRICT FIVE AND BEFORE THAT I LIVED IN A DISTRICT TWO, UM, BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES ARE EXTREMELY LIGHT.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL INVESTMENT EHRS AND THE WAY THAT THINGS GO, THE LACK OF EQUITY IN REPRESENTATION IN THESE DISTRICTS DETERMINES HOW MUCH MONEY ENDS UP COMING WITH THE TAX LANES.

AND SO FOR ME AS A CITIZEN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW, HAVE YOU DONE THAT? AND IT'S NOT LIE.

I HAVE DONE THAT WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING WITH THIS ON MY OWN TO GET A SENSE OF HOW YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE LAYING OUT.

THE OTHER POINT THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

I BEEN SAYING AS BOULEVARD IS THE MEDICINE AND ROOMS FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

AND I'M SOMEBODY WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF EXPERIENCES IN THE EXACT SAME THING BASED ON, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A DEFINITE LINE.

THERE WAS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

IT'S PROBABLY WITH THE MOST BIFURCATED PARISHES I'VE, I'VE WORKED WITH ACTUALLY WHAT I'VE SEEN ELSEWHERE AROUND THE STATE IS A LOT MORE MIXING, A LOT MORE DIVERSITY AS

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OPPOSED TO HEAVILY BLACK, HEAVILY WHITE.

AND THAT I HAVE WORKED TO JUST SEE WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES WERE.

AND BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU START MOVING NORTH, IT JUST SO CONCENTRATED ON MINORITY POPULATION.

SOON AS YOU MOVE SOUTH IS SO CONCENTRATED ON WHITE POPULATION.

BY THE TIME YOU MOVED THE NEEDLE ON THE PERCENTAGE OF BLACK, YOU'RE BLOWING YOUR DEVIATIONS WAY OUT OF THE WATER.

THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE IS HERE IS THAT IF A LITTLE MORE DIVERSE FROM MY BATTLE TO BALANCE IT, BUT IT'S NOT.

I MOVED THE MINORITY DISTRICTS DOWN SOUTH.

BY THE TIME THEY GET TO WHITE POPULATION, THEIR WAY, THEY GOT WAY TOO MUCH POPULATION, THEIR DEVIATIONS ARE IN THE TEENS AND THE TWENTIES.

SAME THING.

IF I TRY AND MOVE IN THE WHITE, PREDOMINANTLY WHITE NON-MINORITY DISTRICTS TO THE NORTH TO TRY TO PICK UP ON IT.

BY THE TIME I GET THROUGH THAT TRANSITION ZONE, THEY'RE ALREADY BLOWING THEIR DEVIATIONS OUT.

SO THEN I WOULD SAY TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THE CONVERSATION ABOUT INCOME IN THIS COMMUNITY? UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE ALSO KNOW IS THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SOUTH BATON ROUGE WHERE THE MAJORITY WHITE POPULATION IS THE PRICE OUT, THE PRICES OF HOMES AND THE COST OF LIVING IS DIFFERENT THAN THE NORTH BATON ROUGE.

UH, WE'RE IN CHARLIE'S BLACK POPULATION AND THERE WOULD BE MORE BLACK PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SOUTH BEDROOMS IF WE HAD MORE BALANCED WHERE OUR INCOME IN THIS PARISH.

AND SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THIS MAP FOR OUR COUNCIL IS A PROOF OF THE INEQUITY THAT EXISTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS.

ESPECIALLY IF THIS GENTLEMAN IS TELLING US THAT OTHER PARENTS ARE GOING TO SAY, WHICH WE ARE NOT, THE LARGEST PAIRS ARE MORE DIVERSE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES THAT YEAH, SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY SO DIVERSE NOW JUST, AND IT'S BEEN TRENDING SINCE THE 1990 CENSUS, WHEN I STARTED WORKING WITH ALL OF THIS IS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TROUBLE MAINTAINING A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT IN SOME AREAS, BUT EVERY 10 YEARS YOU'VE BEEN SEEING IT DECREASING, BUT THEY ALSO KIND OF TAKEN THE SAME ATTITUDE THAT DARYL IS THAT I KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE MORE DIVERSITY.

YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT A DIVERSE ISSUES AT THE SAME.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT SO MUCH FROM A RACIAL STANDPOINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT ISSUE STANDPOINT.

SO A LOT OF THEM HAVE COME TO THAT THINKING, WHICH IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS BACK IN THE NINETIES AND TWO THOUSANDS WHERE IT WAS MOSTLY FOCUSED ON THE RACIAL PERCENTAGES, BUT ON YOUR END, Y'ALL, HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.

Y'ALL, Y'ALL TRENDING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT WAY, BUT YOU GET MORE OTHER, YOU GETTING SOME DIVERSITY WITH OTHER RACES IN THE PARISH, BUT YOU'RE NOT REALLY BREAKING UP A WHOLE LOT ON THAT NORTH SOUTH ISSUE WITH REGARDS TO YOUR MINORITY, NON MINORITY NORTH END SOUTH END.

SURE.

YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS IN FOR RIGHT NOW? JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, YOU SAY YES, I DID.

YES.

YEAH.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING AWAY.

I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD THIS OR SAY THIS, BUT I GUESS MY WHOLE THING OF LOOKING AT THESE MAPS IS WE HAVE TO REACH, WE HAVE WHERE WE ARE NOW YOU HAVE TO BALANCE AND MOVE ON.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IT CREATE A MINORITY DISTRICT OR ANOTHER ONE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF WE BALANCED THE NUMBERS, DIDN'T, WE'RE CREATING THE BALANCE THAT'S REQUIRED.

SO I CALL IT, I CALL IT THAT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CREATING ANOTHER DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE BALANCING, THE NUMBERS, THE VOKEY GO EITHER WAY.

I MEAN, WHAT IF I RAN IN DISTRICT FIVE AND ONE AND ONE JUST SAYING, WHAT AM I GETTING? AND I WANT, DOES THAT MEAN THE MINORITY DISTRICT WENT AWAY? I MEAN, JUST GODLY THING.

I RUN IN DISTRICT FIVE, I MOVED AND I WENT, DOES THAT CREATE MINORITY DISTRICTS? NO.

WE JUST SAW THAT IN THE DISTRICT POOL.

OKAY.

YOU WANT, OKAY.

THE DISTRICTS, IF I DID, DOES THAT UNCREATE? NO.

CAUSE IT'S THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE DISTRICT, NOT THE RACE OF THE PERSON SITTING IN A SEAT.

OKAY.

BUT WE HAVE AREAS AND EVERYTHING, AND WE FOUND THIS HOUSE IS CLOSER TO EITHER OR WHEN CORRECTLY, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHO RUNS

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THE RACE AND WINS.

I GUESS, I, AGAIN, I'M GOING FROM A BALANCE OF THE NUMBERS.

EVEN STEVEN BALANCES, THE NUMBERS WHERE WE'RE AT, THAT'S WHAT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT.

AND I FELT THIS THAT'S WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

UH, I THINK THEY WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY IF I'M NOT MIS INTERPRETING WHAT IT IS.

I THINK WHAT THEY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS WHY WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.

LET'S SEE IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSITY TO SOME OF THESE REALLY HEAVILY MINORITY, UH, DISTRICTS, WHILE STILL TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR BALANCE ON OUR POPULATION.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T DO A LITTLE BIT OF, WE HAVE TO BALANCE A POPULATION, BUT LET'S SEE WHY WE'RE DOING THAT.

IF WE CAN'T ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSITY TO SOME OF OUR REAL HEAVY MINORITY DISTRICTS, AND THIS IS A REAL GOOD TIME TO DO THIS, TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND WHAT'S NOT.

AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM SPENDING THE TIME TO IT BECAUSE I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO SEE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK.

I MEAN, I, AGAIN, I DON'T MIND IF I GET IN THEIR CAR, THEY WERE DOING HER THING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, ARE WE TRYING TO BALANCE THE NUMBERS TO REMAIN IN THE LAW OR ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? AND THAT'S IT.

SO OUR WEEK IS IT IS THE ONLY PURPOSE TO CREATE A MINORITY MAJORITY DISTRICT.

ANOTHER MAJORITY DISTRICT.

IS THAT THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BOOKS HERE OR IS IT JUST LET'S SEE THE NUMBERS THAT WERE REQUIRED? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

I'M NOT TRYING TO DISRESPECT ANYBODY WITH THAT QUESTION, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO KNOW WHAT I'M GOING FOR.

SO I BELIEVE IT'S REALLY A COMBINATION OF BOTH AND THE REASON WHY THE SENSES AND THE REPRESENTATION ACQUIRED BASED ON, UH, THE CENSUS DATA, ALONG WITH HOW HE GROUPS, MINORITIES DETERMINES WHAT THAT REPRESENTATION IS.

SO RIGHT NOW AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE PROTECTED CLASS AND YOU HAVE OTHER MINORITIES WITH, WITH WHY IS THE GREAT MAJORITY SCRAPE.

WE'RE STILL JUST ABOUT OFF THE BALANCE.

AND SO IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW HE CHOSE THE RIGHT DEVIATIONS VERSUS WHAT A TRUE BALANCE REPRESENTATION LOOKS LIKE.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A TRUE BALANCE REPRESENTATION BASED ON THE CENSUS DATA.

THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

SO, UM, OKAY.

SO, SO FOR ME, UM, I, AND I THINK, UH, KINDA LIKE WHAT, UH, AARON WAS ASKING ABOUT BOTH, BUT I BELIEVE I LOST, WE HAVE TO PROTECT.

THEN I THINK THE QUESTION IS AFTER WE HAVE PROTECTED, UM, THE CLASS THAT BLACKS AS A PROTECTED CLASS, HOW DO WE THEN SECONDARY MAKE THE MAP, UH, REFLECT THE POPULATION? SOME OF THAT, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S A FAIR GOAL.

WELL, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE WITH TWO, UH, AT THE LAST WORKSHOP WE MADE, THIS IS A BOUNDARY FOR TWO RIGHT NOW LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT NUMBERS WE HAD TO WORK WITH ON TO TWO WAS 17% ON THE LOW SIDE.

YOU'RE 6,800 PEOPLE BELOW THE AVERAGE.

SO WE HAD TO PICK UP POPULATION.

SO AT THE LAST WORKSHOP WE DISCUSSED, WE WERE MOVING NORTH.

SO, SO THE MOVE HAD, COULD HAVE TO BE EITHER NORTH OR EAST.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS ADDING, IS TODAY.

THE PINK LINE IS THAT THIS IS AS IT WAS AT THE END OF OUR LAST WORKSHOP.

OKAY.

SO WHAT PART, SORRY.

HAVE YOU ADDED TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST? UM, NO, JUST TO THE NORTH THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.

WHAT'S THAT? AND WE'LL PUT DISTRICT TWO UP THERE.

SO YOU MOVE IN THAT AREA TO THE NORTH THAT, THAT BROUGHT YOU TO A, UH, A PLUS 2% DEVIATION THAT GAVE YOU ENOUGH POPULATION TO MAKE UP THAT MINUS 17 THAT YOU WERE LOW ON.

SO NOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO THAT AREA OR DO A DIFFERENT AREA, YOU HAVE OPTIONS, YOU HAVE CHOICES, WHATEVER YOU THINK IS BEST.

OKAY.

OKAY.

LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT AREA IS THAT? BECAUSE A HOUSE, UH, AND HE HAD ME, YOU AND BACK HERE AND WHEN I WROTE,

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SO HE TRIED TO PULL UP QUICK.

OKAY.

SO TELL ME, UM, WHAT AREAS HAVE I GAINED THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHT IT AGAIN SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE PINK LINE, EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PINK LINE RIGHT HERE.

UH, THIS PINK LINE RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS AREA THAT YOU GAINED RIGHT HERE, BUT LET ME GET IT OUT OF, UH, DISTRICT.

SO THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, AND I GAVE ME 30 ACRES.

SO FROM FLYING, BUT BASICALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT, I HAVE I'VE GAINED, I'VE GAINED, UM, NORTHWEST OF PINE GROVE.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

CAUSE THAT LOOKED DOWN OUR ROAD ROAD TODAY'S WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, YEAH.

AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO LOWER THAT WE WROTE.

THERE ARE NO HOUSES MOSTLY.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT'S WHERE I, THAT'S WHERE THE COLBY DIVERSION IS AND NO HOUSE, NO, NO.

NORTH SIDE OF THE , UH, NOT PARENTS THERE.

OKAY.

I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IS WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT THE, THAT IS PLANK ROAD, CORRECT? WHAT IS THE ANSWER? THE LEFT, CAN I ASK BETWEEN MAIN STREET AND MIKE ROAD? IS THAT, HOW DO I GAIN MORE, POSSIBLY GAIN MORE CLOSER TO OLD CAUSE AGRO COMING UP TO HERE.

YEAH.

PROBABLY CAN JUST FALL ON THAT PRECINCT BOUNDARY, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT THAT PICKS UP THAT, THAT PRECINCT THAT'S 2000 PEOPLE THAT PUT YOU AT A PLUS EIGHT YOU'D HAVE TO LOSE.

SO NOW I WAS JUST LOOKING AT, WE, WE ALSO HAVE THIS AREA ON THE EAST SIDE, THIS AREA ON THE EAST SIDE WAS ADDED AS WELL.

THIS IS A SUBDIVISION WHERE RUSTIN AND COLFAX, JUNO, THAT WAS ALSO AT YOUR DISTRICT.

SO THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANT.

SO ONE JUST BETWEEN MAIN AND PIKE AND ALSO CAME IN TO THE 8 0 8 IS TOO HIGH, RIGHT? YEAH.

THAT'S IF WE ADDED THAT PRECINCT ROAD, UH, BAKER'S ACCURATE ROAD WAS, BUT IF YOU WANT IT TO GO MORE THIS WAY TO THE WEST, TO THE LEFT, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MAP AND PUT SOME IN, TRADED OFF, PUT THIS BACK IN ONE AND WE CAN SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS DO.

SO WHAT TO THE, UM, TO THE EAST COLBY ANCHOR A LITTLE BIT TO OLD BANKER ROLE AND BRING IT DOWN THIS FAR.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO, LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

LET'S SEE WHAT'S HIS PRECINCT IS WE TAKE THAT OUT.

SO THAT'S AT OTHER PRECINCT.

LET'S JUST TAKE THIS ONE OUT FOR RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S 538 PEOPLE.

YOUR NUMBERS ARE STILL BALANCED, NOT AN ISSUE THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND YOU WANT TO COME IN AND YOU WANT TO PICK UP MORE THIS AREA HERE.

LET'S SEE WHAT THAT DOES.

I'LL TRY THE WHOLE PRECINCT.

YEAH.

NOT TOO BAD.

UH, YOUR NUMBERS ARE IN BALANCED.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S WITHOUT TAKING ANY EIGHTH STREET, I WOULDN'T HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT CORRECT.

EXCEPT FOR THIS LITTLE PART RIGHT HERE, RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA, YOU HAVE ONE SIDE OF IT FOR

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THAT SHORT DISTANCE RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S THE ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PRECINCT, THE WAY THAT PRECINCT MASHIACH.

SURE.

WELL, THIS SHOULD JUST BE A DIFFERENT PLAN VARIATION.

YOU NEED TO MAKE, YOU WANT TO KEEP, I LIKE TO TRY THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

THE PREVIOUS WOULD YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY AS IMPLANT THREE, THIS IS THREE EIGHT.

SO THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE THREE H CORRECT.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

I WANTED TO, UH, A SECOND, I THINK IS A BAD QUESTION FOR ME TO BE AND LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT AND PROCESS, UH, ABOUT TRYING TO CREATE THIS FIXIE, UH, MR. MO, I'M SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE FULL TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

UH, AND I, WE ENDED UP, WE HAVE THE SEATS.

NOW, IF YOU JUST LOOK INTO 19 JUNE, UH, THERE WERE NO SEATS.

UM, AND RIDESHARING PROCESS ALLOWS US TO AVOID THE LITIGATION.

UH, AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS NOW GOING TO BE IN THE STATE MAPS AS WELL AS THE CONGRESSIONAL MASK BASED ON POPULATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO SAY THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT ASSUMPTION.

AND WE WANT TO CREATE A GOVERNMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE OUR CITY.

UM, I COULDN'T IMAGINE THAT ANY WHITE THOUSAND MEMBERS HERE WOULD BE OKAY LIVING IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY WERE 50 OR 60% OF THE POPULATION WHERE THEY WERE 30 OR 40% OF THE PEOPLE WERE HEAVILY REPRESENTED ON THE BOARD.

UM, I THINK THAT WANTING TO HAVE A FAIR REPRESENTATION IS WHAT THIS PROCESS IS ABOUT.

NOT JUST THE 50% PROCESS, LIKE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE NUMBERS OF BAYER, BUT MAKING SURE THAT THE NUMBERS OF THE PEOPLE THAT SIT ON THE BOARDS AND REPRESENT US ARE REFLECTIVE OF THIS TOTALITY OF THE STANDARDS.

UM, AND THAT HAS NEVER EXISTED IN THE CITY.

AND GIVEN TIME THERE'S GONNA BE A 10 FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

THERE'S AN REQUIRED LITIGATION TO MAKE.

UM, THE REVISION, ADDITIONALLY PROCESS ALLOWS US TO AVOID WHICH BLACK COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.

AND I THOUGHT I TRIED TO GET US TO THIS POINT.

UH, THIS COUNCIL HAS PROVEN TO BE MORE DIPLOMATIC THAN YOUR PREDECESSORS ABOUT EQUITY.

UM, AND SO I HOPE THAT BANK POLICY DOES NOT BE BUSTING HIS PROCESS BY ONLY COUNTY NUMBERS IS TO VOTE, BUT TO RECOGNIZE, AND I'VE NEVER HAD ERIC ON EACH FORM OF REPRESENTATION AND WE WANTED, OKAY, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A DISTRICT? THEY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WE'RE AT 12.

OH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT 12 MONTHS HALFWAY.

ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT.

12, IF YOU RECALL WAS PRETTY GOOD ON THE DEVIATION.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO REALLY MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES OTHER THAN WHAT MIGHT HAVE RIPPLED DOWN FROM SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, DISTRICTS.

SO LET ME TAKE THE STREETS OFF FOR A MINUTE.

LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

LOOKS LIKE 12, A LITTLE ADJUSTMENT HERE.

THERE WERE A ROWDY CAME UP, PICKED A LITTLE BIT UP HERE BY LSU AND THEN ADDED THIS AREA SOUTH HERE.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WHEN WE GET BACK TO MY LITTLE CHART HERE, 11 WAS HIGH AND NINE WAS HOT.

SO THEY HAD TO SHED POPULATION SOMEWHERE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THE FACT THAT IT HAD SOME EFFECT OVER ROLLING OVER INTO 12.

SO YOU'RE HAVING TO HELP RELIEVE A LITTLE BIT OF POPULATION HERE OR THERE, UH, TO HELP DO THAT.

SEVEN CAME AND PICKED UP SOME OF YOUR AREA HERE.

NOW WHETHER THIS GENERAL CONFIGURATION IS GOOD ON THE REPRESENTATION SIDE OR NOT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR SURE.

.

SO WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT WEST THAT SMALL LITTLE TRIANGLE THERE, AND THEN THE OTHER PORTION THAT WANTS TO CONNECT

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IN THE, UM, HUMBLE SESSION, YOUR BRIGHT SIDE DRIVES ALL THAT AREA.

I HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT DO BUSINESS IN THAT AREA, AND THEY'VE GOTTEN ACCUSTOMED THE SAME COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO ESSENTIALLY SPLITTING THIS BUSINESS OWNERS UP CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A ISSUE THERE AS FAR AS JUST EASE UP.

SO IF WE ADDED THOSE THIS ONE HERE? YES, SIR.

THIS AREA.

OKAY.

RIGHT HERE.

WE'RE FOLLOWING A PRECINCT BOUNDARY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IF WE TAKE THIS AREA AND PUT THIS BACK IN, THEN THAT, THAT MAY CREATE A PRECINCT SPLIT.

YEAH.

SO YOU'RE IN YELLOW PURPLE BAG.

HE WANTS YOU TO PERK UP HERE, DOWN HERE, OTHER AREAS.

ALRIGHT.

AND LET'S SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT AND OUR STREETS BACK ON IT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE MAY HAVE HAD SOME CHANGES IN CENSUS GEOGRAPHY IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S WHY IT'S MOVED UP TO, UM, WESLEY.

THAT'S A PRECINCT.

SO THEY MOVED THAT PRECINCT UP TO HERE.

SO LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES AT THE CENSUS BLOCK LEVEL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IT'S IN THE PINK.

IF YOU NEED MORE BOLD THOUGH, I CAN, I CAN MAKE THAT WIDE, THAT LINE WIRE.

OKAY.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT IF WE SPLIT THAT PRECINCT AND PUT THAT AREA BACK IN YOUR DISTRICT, THAT'S 711 PEOPLE, YOUR DEVIATIONS OFF A LITTLE BIT, 5.9 WITHOUT MAKING ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS.

THREES.

OKAY.

AT A 2.92.

THAT'S WHAT THE LINE WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS PARTICULAR AREA RIGHT HERE.

OH, RIGHT HERE.

ALL THAT AREA.

YEAH.

WOW.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

APPRECIATE THAT.

SOMETIMES I GET LOST TOO.

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS.

LET'S SAY WE LOOK AT PRECINCT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ADD THAT IN.

THAT'S GOING TO PUT YOU AT A 4.99 WITHOUT MAKING ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS THAT BRING THREE DOWN TO MINUS SIX.

SO IF WE ADDED IN THE DISTRICT, LOOKS LIKE NOW Y'ALL MAY WANT TO SWAP OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE.

FURTHER SOUTH.

LET'S SEE ROWDY.

YOU WERE HIGH IF I RECALL, RIGHT? YEAH.

YOU WERE AT PLUS NINETEENS.

SO YOU HAD TO SHED SOME POPULATION WITH SOMEBODY AND THAT'S WHY THE GUY GOT BUMPED.

BUT NOW IF THAT GETS CHANGED AT THE NORTH, MAYBE WE MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE DOWN ON THE SOUTH END.

I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, OKAY.

YOU THINK IT CHANGED? THERE'S A, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS EATING AND THE NEGATIVES IN TERMS OF THIS MAP IS NOT A BAD THING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT, ALL MOVE ON RIVER.

AND SO I THINK IF 10 YEARS IS REASONABLY BACK AT 19% GAIN, JUST BECAUSE OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, I THINK THAT'S SORT OF CORRECT.

TAKE ON IT, PROBLEM THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THOSE AT, UH, 12.

DOES THAT, UH, ALMOST A 15% OLD WAY.

YEAH.

I GOT TO FIND A PLACE TO MOVE TO BRING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN.

AND THE NEIGHBORING ONE IS, UH, IT'D BE SEVEN 11 CAN TAKE A LITTLE NINE CAN TAKE SOME AND THREE CAN TAKE.

SO, AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.

UM, I APPRECIATION IS I WAS ADDED MORE POPULOUS EVERY YEAR TO THE SOUTHEAST, UM, ON THIS SIDE, WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT.

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SO THE WINTER AREA RIGHT THERE, ALL RIGHT, THAT COULD GO INTO 12.

I'M AN 11 OUT OF 12.

AND THAT CAN GO INTO THREE BECAUSE THOSE ARE CONTIGUOUS.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES ON THAT PRECINCT PAY THAT BRINGS YOU DOWN TO PLUS 7.6.

THAT BRINGS 12 PLUS NINE.

LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE MOVE IT TO THREE.

OKAY.

GO TO A, UH, THAT BRINGS THREE TO MINUS 0.2, 0.2 12 IS STILL AT A PLUS 9%.

SO THAT WOULD MAKE THAT CHANGE, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO PICK UP, YOU'D HAVE TO LOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEY YOU'D EITHER HAVE TO USE ONE OF THESE PRECINCTS OR SOMETHING THAT BELONGS IN THIS AREA, THIS AREA HERE, OR THIS AREA BACK OVER HERE.

I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THOSE COME.

THIS MAKES A CLEANER LINE.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES.

I PUT SIX, I MEAN, THREE OUT OF 5.8, SIX TWELVES BALANCED AT 2.96.

THAT PUTS ROWDY A LITTLE BIT HIGH, BUT WELL, WITHIN THE RANGE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GROW OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS TO CHANGE A SHOPPING CENTER RIGHT HERE.

YEAH, WE DROPPED BACK UP IN THIS AREA, THE NORTH PART FIRST, VERY SMALL SLIVER.

WE DID ELIMINATE THAT A LITTLE SPLIT.

WE AS THE ALL RIGHT.

12 IS THAT A PLUS 13 THREE IS AN A MINUS FOUR.

NOW I TOOK OUT THIS AREA THAT WE JUST ADDED IN DOWN HERE THAT, UH, KIND OF JOKES WHERE THE WINTER OVER THAT AREA.

I TOOK THAT OUT.

NOW, IF YOU PUT THAT BACK IN TO THREE, TOOK IT OUT OF THAT, UH, STILL LEAVES 12 PLUS SEVEN.

IF YOU DO THAT, LIKE TO TRY AND FIND A WAY TO TRY AND GET IT DOWN RIGHT HERE.

AND WE ADD THAT BACK INTO, IF WE HAD THAT TWO, THREE, UH, THAT BRINGS THREE TO PLUS SEVEN, BECAUSE OF THAT LEE AVENUE CHANGE BRINGS YOU.

OKAY.

YOU'RE A PLUS ONE.

LET'S SEE IF WE DO IT TO 11.

UM, 11 IS AT A PLUS SEVEN AND 12.

IS THAT A 1.1? TENDS TO LOOK A LITTLE AWKWARD TOO, BECAUSE THEY HAD GOTTEN A LITTLE FINGER IN UM, THE TENANT AS WELL, OR? OKAY.

LET'S TAKE THIS OUT RIGHT HERE.

YOU WANT TO PUT, KEEP THAT IN THREE? YEAH.

YOU ALMOST GOING TO NEED TWO TO AT LEAST GET IT EVEN CLOSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DAN YOU'RE AT A PLUS SEVEN.

YOU NEED TO GIVE UP A LITTLE POPULATION ELSEWHERE.

I THINK I LOST AT PIERCE ACTUALLY.

THAT'S THAT'S PART OF YOUR OLD DISTRICT RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

PROBLEM IS THAT YOUR NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS NEEDED TO GIVE SOME POPULATION UP.

THAT'S WHY YOU GOT THAT'S.

WHY YOU GOT NUDGED AROUND WELL, I CAN SHOW YOU WHO TO BLAME.

I MEAN,

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RIGHT THERE, LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS.

I HAVE ONE PARISH THAT HAD AN 80% DEVIATION ON THEIR, ON THEIR BENCHMARK, ON THEIR CURRENT DISTRICTS.

20, 20, 80%.

YEAH, I CAN'T ADD ANYMORE TO YOU.

YOU TOO HIGH RIGHT NOW.

LET'S SAY MAYBE WE CAN SPLIT THE BABY A LITTLE FUCKING FIND A GOOD DIVIDER FROM TIME.

THESE SUBDIVISIONS DON'T MAKE AS MUCH IN THE WAY OF CONNECTING ROADS, WHICH MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO NOT SPLIT THEM UP.

UM, I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A FLARE AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT GEOGRAPHICALLY RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

THAT PUTS THAT.

DOES YOU OKAY? IT DOESN'T DO THAT'S GOOD.

4 27 IS A REALLY GOOD YEAH.

SEE THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY SICK RIGHT THERE.

I REALLY LOVE TO CUT THAT RIGHT THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO GIVE US ENOUGH POPULATION.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES.

AND THAT BALANCES OUT PRETTY CLOSE RIGHT THERE.

WE SPLIT THAT PRECINCT LIKE THAT.

UM, I GUESS IN THAT DISTRICT, UM, I'LL ALSO HAVE THE LEAD DRIVE PROJECT AND I HAVE A BURKINS ROAD.

PROJECT IS IN THE EARLY STAGES AND ALL OF THIS PROJECTS ARE POSITING THEIR PROJECTS.

SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND MOVING PEOPLE AWAY FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, I GAVE BACK THE YELLOW IRELAND AREA, THAT AREA BACK TO DISTRICT THREE OR TWO DISTRICT AND SEE IF I CAN KEEP MY DISTRICTS IN SOME SEMBLANCE OF WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE.

UM, I'LL SIGN IT TO 10.

I DON'T KNOW.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THAT PUTS 10 A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH.

IF WE TAKE ALL OF THAT AREA, TAKE SOME OF IT OUT.

YEAH, WE CAN TAKE THAT.

PUT IT IN 10.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE MINORITY NUMBERS MUCH.

CAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A PROFILE.

OKAY.

THAT PUTS, UH, 12.

THAT BRINGS YOU BACK IN BALANCE.

IT BRINGS THREE AT A PLUS THREE BRINGS 10 OUT A PLUS FOR LET'S SEE, 10, 10 DIDN'T LOSE A WHOLE LOT.

SO WE'RE OKAY.

BUT WAS THAT AGAIN? OF COURSE IT'S 42 RIGHT HERE.

10.

THIS THAT PUT 10 OLD, TOO HOT.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET THIS TO 12.

I'M GOING TO SWAP OFF.

I HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SWAP OFF,

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LET ME TAKE OVER.

I'M CAREFULLY.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW LET'S FIND THAT PINK MINE, MAN.

IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET THE UNIVERSITY LAKE AREA BACK INTO 12.

OKAY.

AND WHAT DID I PUT THAT IN 12 TO 12 OF THEM, MINUS 14.

THAT BRINGS YOU TO MINUS 10.

SO NOW WE GOT A DIFFERENT PROBLEM.

LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

UH, ALL RIGHT, RIGHT HERE, DARRYL RUPAL IN THAT AREA LIKE THAT THAT'S SNAKE.

THAT BALANCE IS A TWO HOUR AND HELP SOME MINORITY NUMBERS FOR 10.

I DON'T WANT TO TEND TO GET TOO LOW IN THE MINORITY NUMBERS.

WHAT WAS THE, UH, 52 52 I'LL BEFORE WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS ALTOGETHER, UH, WITH THE, UH, DOWN BY LEE AND ALL THAT, I WAS AROUND 53.

YES.

YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO SAY IT IMPROVED DISTRICT TENTS.

I WAS WATCHING HOME DISTRICT 10 AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO LOW BECAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO END UP EXACERBATING A PROBLEM.

THIS ACTUALLY HELPS.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE STRONGEST CONFIGURATION.

I'VE SEEN 10 ON ANY OF THE PLANS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT SO FAR FROM A REPRESENTATION STANDPOINT.

YEAH.

IT HAPPENED TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE OTHER SURROUNDING NUMBERS.

JUST MAKE SURE TIM'S GOOD.

THREE IS GOOD.

THREE GOOD SEVEN.

WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON THIS AND YEAH.

WE'RE GOOD ON THIS.

YOU WOULD ADD THREE.

YEAH.

THIS IS PART OF THREE EIGHT.

AND WE CAN MAIL THESE THINGS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

MAY SAY I LIKED WHAT WE DID IN THREE AND HERE AND WHAT WE DID IN THREE EIGHT AND ANOTHER AREA.

SO WE MELD THESE THINGS AS WE GO ALONG.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

YEAH, THIS WAS GOOD.

GOOD SUGGESTIONS.

SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT TO WORK THROUGH THEM, BUT NINE.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THE ROADS OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT.

SO YOU CONTINUE TO CHANGE BECAUSE AS YOU RECALL, NINE HAD 11% ON THE HIGH SIDE.

SO WE HAD TO LOSE SOME PEOPLE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU USED TO COME UP THIS WAY.

DWIGHT AND EIGHT PICKED UP SOME OF THAT.

AND BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT WE HAD TO COME IN AND REBALANCE A LITTLE BIT 11 CAME AND PICKED UP SOME OF THIS, THIS CONFIGURATION IS WHAT GAVE YOU A 0.6, 1%.

YEAH.

THAT'S YES.

PARALLELS FAIR IS ALSO PRECINCT BOUNDARIES ALL THE WAY.

OKAY.

DISTRICT AID.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON YOURS? HOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHITE BY YOU HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO MEET COMING DOWN HERE.

IF IT'S NOT ON HERE, IT MAY NOT BE ABOUT WHAT'S THAT BUT IT WAS SLIPPERY.

IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED WELL Y'ALL CAN SPLIT PRECINCTS.

CAUSE Y'ALL A PARISH GOVERNING AUTHORITY.

IT'S JUST WHETHER WE HAVE THE CENSUS BLOCK BOUNDARIES THAT ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

WHEN WE SPLIT PRECINCTS, WE HAVE USED CENSUS BLOCK BOUNDARIES.

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WE'VE ALREADY SPLIT A FEW PRECINCTS WHERE WE SPLIT A PRECINCT.

WE'LL CREATE A NEW ONE.

OKAY.

SO OKAY.

THAT'S THE WHOLE PRECINCT BUCK.

IF WE TOOK PART OF THAT, THAT'S A BLOCK.

THAT'S A BLOCK.

THAT'S A BLOCK.

UH, LET'S SEE WHERE WE AT.

ALRIGHT.

THIS IS A LOWER ZACHARY ROAD RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT? NO PROBLEM THERE.

CATCH THE RIVER FOR ME.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WE WANT TO KEEP COMING DOWN FURTHER, FURTHER THAN THAT.

CAN YOU CALM DOWN? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, SO THAT'S NOT REALLY THROWING YOUR NUMBERS OF DISTRICT TWO OFF.

ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S SEE IF WE GO FURTHER DOWN.

OKAY.

THAT'LL PICK UP THIS SUBDIVISION RIGHT HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT THE NUMBERS STILL WORK RIGHT THERE.

THAT STILL WORKS.

YOU WANT TO SIGN THAT FOR NOW, SEAN? WHAT'D YOU THINK THAT PUTS ALL THE DIVERGENT CANAL? UH, THE BOUNDARY ON THERE IS THAT ABOUT WHERE THE DIVERSION CANAL IS MORE OR LESS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

APPARENTLY THEY'RE NOT PICKING IT UP AS A CENSUS BOUNDARY YET.

THEY MAKE IT 23RD.

I JUST KNOW THE ONE LET ME TELL ME A SIGN THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THAT'S THAT SUBDIVISION WITH A SMALL AND JUDY'S CAPITAL.

WHAT'S THE NAME OF IT? YEAH.

IT MAKES THE LINE A LITTLE CLEANER.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LITTLE JETTING PARTWAY TO GOD.

ALL RIGHT.

KEEP THAT RIGHT NOW FOR STUDY PURPOSES.

ALL RIGHT.

DISTRICT SEVEN.

YOU'VE BEEN AWFULLY QUIET.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SEE ON YOURS? VOTING AGE POPULATION OR PROMPTS.

THE 67 ARE REGISTERED VOTERS POCKET.

DISTRICT 10.

ANY QUESTIONS ON YOURS? READ THAT LITTLE BIT ON THE SOUTH END.

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ON DISTRICT FOUR.

OKAY.

WE HAVE IT IN THE CITY LIMITS UNDER THREE.

THIS WOULD BE THREE EIGHT.

WELL, WITH ALL THE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS, LET ME SAY THIS, THEN THIS WILL BE THREE B ALL RIGHT.

THREE.

B'S GOING TO HAVE EVERYTHING AT THREE, A HASS, EXCEPT THIS GOES BACK INTO FOUR OKAY.

NOW AT LITTLE, TOP 10 SIZE AND WRITING.

CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE ? UM, YEAH.

AND THEN WHAT? THIS PARK HERE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.

YES, SIR.

RIGHT? SHE'S ON RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

I SIT AT THAT DESK BALANCES OUT DEVIATIONS.

ONLY ONE THAT, UH, NOPE.

WE FIXED THAT.

NOW THE NUMBERS BOUNCE.

10 MORE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT GOOD BABY.

GO WITH THAT FOR NOW, FOR STUDY PURPOSES WRITING, THEN YOU CAN ZOOM OUT FROM THE WHOLE PARISH WITH OR WITHOUT ROADS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

JUST ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'VE GOT NO DISTRICT ONE AT THE NORTH BANKS DISTRICT TWO.

AND FOR SOME REASON WE DROPPED WAY DOWN TO THE SOUTH DISTRICT THREE.

WE USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ NUMBER, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY, THE HISTORY PROBABLY, I'M SURE MIKE'S EXPERIENCE WITH THE THREE NUMBERED DISTRICTS IS MUCH MORE, UM, IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE USEFUL FOR YOU ALL THAT.

IT IS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT SOMETHING THAT ENDED UP CHANGING YEARS AND YEARS AGO.

BUT, UM, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE THE 1984, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WHEN THEY SWITCHED IT AND BROUGHT THREE SOUTH.

UM, IT IS, IT CAN BE CONFUSING TO VOTERS IN DISTRICT THREE AND NOW THEY'RE IN

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DIFFERENT.

NO, RE-DISTRICTING YEAH.

THE NUMBERS KIND OF GET OUT OF WHACK.

SOMETIMES.

SOMETIMES THEY WANT TO READ NUMBER.

SOMETIMES THEY WANT TO KEEP THEM, UH, THAT'S REALLY UP TO Y'ALL.

I CAN EASILY RENUMBER THEM.

IT CAN BE CONFUSING TO VOTERS.

THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HOLE IS ONE OF HIS ZACHARY COMES FROM A NUMBER OF BANKS TO SCOTLAND, THE AREA.

AND THEN YOU DROP ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THREE.

SO THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO READ THEM.

YEAH.

I MEAN, TO MAKE IT ULTIMATELY EASIER, IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW SOME EASY PATTERN.

AND I KNOW THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF SWEET POTATO IN THREE NOW ONE THING YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THOUGH, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WITH THE GARZA ORDINANCES PROJECTS, TAXING DISTRICTS, WHATEVER, IF THEY'RE DESIGNATED BY DISTRICT NUMBERS, IN WHICH CASE THAT SOMETIMES CAN CAUSE SOME CONFUSION.

IF YOU USE THOSE AS IN A NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS, IF YOU, DON'T NOT A BIG ISSUE, IT'S WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, SOME VOTERS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO CHANGE DISTRICTS.

IT'S JUST THAT YOU HAVE MORE THAN A CHANGE, A DISTRICT NUMBER ON THEIR CARD.

AND CAN YOU ZOOM IN DOWNTOWN ON THIRD STREET? AND I WANT TO SPLIT THAT UP BETWEEN DISTRICTS RUN A CORRIDOR, RUN A CORRIDOR RIGHT DOWN STREET BETWEEN THREE AND THREE B.

WE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A PLAN THREE, A THREE, A AND A THREE B THREE.

A'S SOME OF THE FIRST CHANGES OR MAY THREE, THREE IT'S FIRST CHANGE OF MAY THREE.

A'S THE ONE THAT WE WENT UP INTO CENTRAL AND YOUR DISTRICT AND UH, AND DARRYL'S DISTRICT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE DIVERSE.

AND THEN THREE V HAS THOSE, BUT A COUPLE OF OTHER CHANGES WITH DISTRICT 12, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT ANYBODY ELSE THAT I DIDN'T COVER.

UH, DR.

VINNIE, ANYBODY ELSE? YES.

THIS WILL BE 3D.

THAT'S REALLY UP TO Y'ALL.

I'LL BE, I'LL BE PRODUCING THE MAPS FOR THESE.

I KNOW RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE THREE.

I CAN HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

I'M ASKING FOR A FRIEND, HOW SOON DOES IT REDISTRICT YOU'D HAVE TO BE DONE IN YOUR PARTICULAR CASE.

IF I REMEMBER THERE'S A CHARTER LIMITATION, YOU HAVE TO, YOUR CHARTER LIMITED STATEWIDE.

YOU HAVE TO JUNE OF NEXT YEAR, BUT YOUR CHARTER DOESN'T ALLOW THAT CHARTER HAS WHAT A YEAR YOU HAVE AUGUST, AUGUST.

THAT'S WHEN YOUR DEADLINE STATE IS JUNE.

THE NEXT YEAR STATE IS JUNE OF NEXT YEAR.

SO THEY GOT TO BE LIKE, YOU WERE COMING UP TO JUNE 24.

IT HAD TO BE DONE BY JUNE.

THAT'S ONE REASON Y'ALL HAVEN'T SEEN ME SOONER.

IS THAT BE DONE A YEAR BEFORE? CENTRAL'S UP? I DIDN'T KNOW.

YEAH.

WE'RE WORKING ON THERE RIGHT NOW.

UH, THE, UH, NO, THAT'S 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE FIRST DAY OF QUALIFYING.

THAT'S THE DEADLINE.

NOW, IF IT WAS A YEAR, THEY WOULD, YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF THEM THAT WOULD BE RUNNING BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE CENSUS CYCLES ARE.

YOU'D HAVE SOME OF THAT WOULD BE RUNNING ON MALFORMATION DISTRICT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THEY'RE QUALIFYING JULY 21ST TO THE 23RD.

SO THEIR PLAYING HAS TO BE DONE BY JUNE 21ST, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVEN'T DONE IT RIGHT, BECAUSE I'M WORKING ON THEIRS RIGHT NOW.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO PLANS RIGHT NOW RESTING IN THE BACK.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

UM,

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YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE POINT, I THINK WE HAVE A, A, A CENTURY QUESTION THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS EVER REALLY ANSWERED.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS TRUMP, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? RIGHT.

UM, IT'S THE GOALS GET TO SIX, RIGHT? TO GET TO WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS TELL US POPULATION-WISE, UH, WOULD BE EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION.

UH, YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD PROCESS BECAUSE YOU WERE A PART OF THAT, RIGHT? YOU GUYS HERE KNOW THAT WE ARE HEADED TOWARDS THE OFFICER.

UM, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THIS PROCESS, UH, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE NUMBERS DON'T GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, CITY IS IN STORE FOR A FIGHT THAT IS NOT, I THINK, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ANYBODY, RIGHT.

FROM A MONETARY STANDPOINT, OR JUST EVEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COHESIVENESS OF THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL, WE KNOW THAT ONCE HE GETS OUT OF OUTSIDE OF ROOMS LIKE THIS, AND WE START PULLING ALL THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS BECOMES REALLY CONTENTIOUS, RIGHT.

UM, AND SO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO REALLY DIG IN, LEAN IN.

AND SO THAT PREVENTS SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOMEONE MIGHT CALL DIVISIVE, UH, TALKING POINTS TO COME IN, BUT REALLY THE TRUTH IS WE KNOW WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS LOOK LIKE.

WE KNOW WHAT THIS PROCESS SHOULD ACTUALLY, WHAT WOULD THE INCLUSION SHOULD BE RIGHT? WHO WAS GOING TO BE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO ACCIDENTALLY GIVE SOME AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO STORE A THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE IN THE CITY BEFORE.

AND THAT MEANS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GIVING UP SOME POWER TO GROUPS THAT ACTUALLY DO DESERVE THE REPRESENTATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD PROCESS, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT I'VE TALKED TO WANTS TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAPPENED HERE, BUT WHAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THAT FIRST QUESTION, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY ANSWERED THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN HERE? DO WE WANT SIX, SIX AND A HALF OR NOT? AND IF WE DO, WE ACTUALLY NEED TO BE, RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, MOVING A LINE HERE OR THERE, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY BE THINKING CRITICALLY ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO ACHIEVE, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE THE GOAL PROBLEM.

AND SO WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS YOU TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, WHEN YOU FIRST GO IN, IT'S A HABIT.

I ACTUALLY , I DON'T UNDERSTAND I'VE WORKED AT A SCHOOL FOR, BUT I DIDN'T.

I MEAN, I GET THAT HALF AWARE.

IT WAS ACTUALLY WORKS.

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? WELL, ACTUALLY THE PLAN THEY ADOPTED WAS ONE OF THE PLANS THAT, UH, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS USING THE, UH, THE, UH, MAPTITUDE ONLINE FOR REDISTRICTING THAT HE DEVELOPED CALLED NO, I, I SUBMITTED A NUMBER OF PLANS, BUT THE BOARD CHOSE TO GO WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN, WHICH IS THEIR OPTION.

THE BOARD IS THE ONE THAT CHOSE IT.

IT WASN'T A PLAN THAT NOT TRUE.

THEY PAID YOU TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT SUPPOSEDLY WOULD BE, UM, INCLUSIVE OF EVERYBODY AND JUST MADE A DRINK.

AND THEY PULLED THAT AWAY.

YOU CAN'T GO WIND DOWN.

I THINK THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE RESOURCES THAT WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO THEM AND THE PUBLIC TO PLAY WITH THIS THING, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO ONLINE AND WORK UP A PLAN.

WELL, SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO BE ABLE TO PUT ALL THIS DATA TOGETHER AND PUT IT, EVEN SETTING UP YOUR PORTAL, WHICH Y'ALL GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO.

Y'ALL MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

UH, SOMEBODY HAS TO PUT ALL THIS PROGRAMMING TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT I DO.

IT WAS INDEED.

THEY VOTED FOR BOTH OF YOURS.

OKAY.

THAT'S UH, THEIR PROCESS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND, UH, IT'S THE PROCESS OF THE BOARD ADOPTED.

AND THEY DEVELOPED IN THE PRO.

THEY ADOPTED THAT IN JANUARY AND THEY HAVE A STATE STATUTE THAT THEY HAD THAT YOU HAD TO PUBLISH PLAN THIRD, 20 DAYS PRIOR TO VOTING ON IT AND ALL THAT.

WELL, THEY PUBLISHED ALL 19 PLANS AND THEN THEY HAD A MEETING WHERE THEY NARROWED IT DOWN.

NOW THEY ENDED UP AT, UH, BETWEEN IT WAS BETWEEN PLAN.

IT WAS THE WHERE COLLINS PLAN, WHICH IS 11 MEMBER PLAN, THEIR CURRENT DATE NIGHT, AND THEN PLAN 22, WHICH WAS DRAWN BY ONE OF THE MEMBERS.

THAT'S NINE MEMBER PLAN THEY HAVE.

AND THE, THE VOTE WAS TO GO FORWARD WITH PLAN 22.

SO THAT'S, WHAT'S COMING UP ON THE FIFTH AND IT MAINTAINED BASICALLY THE STATUS QUO AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF MINORITY

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SEATS, BUT IT INCREASED THE MINORITY PERCENTAGES IN DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH HAD DROPPED A LOT FROM 2010 CENSUS COUNTS TO THE 2020 CENSUS, UH, DISTRICT FIVE IS MS. JACK WHERE JACKSON WROTE AN IMBALANCE WITH YEAH, IT BROUGHT IT BACK UP.

UH, IT HAD DROPPED INTO THE, INTO THE UPPER FORTIES.

WE USED FROM THE 2010 NUMBERS TO THE 2020 PLAN 22, BROUGHT IT BACK UP AND AROUND THE 52 50 3%.

NOW THE REGISTERED BLACK VOTING AGE POPULATION IS AROUND 58%.

SO IT ACTUALLY IMPROVED THAT PART OF THE PLAN, BUT IT DIDN'T CREATE ANOTHER MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT AND THEIR , IT SHOULD BE BLACK AND HE FLIPPED THE .

I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO HAVE ALL THE SUBSTANCE OF THE BOATS TO BE ON RATIONALIZE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYWAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, I'LL SET UP ANOTHER MEETING DATE.

MY SCHEDULE STARTED TO OPEN UP NOW CAUSE A LOT OF MY CLIENTS HAVE ADOPTED.

SO THE CHAIRMAN HAS ASKED ME WHEN THE NEXT MEETING DATE WAS, I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THESE OUT PROBABLY SOMETIME NEXT WEEK.

I'VE GOT A LOT OF ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS OF FINISHED WRITING AND DRAFTING AND UH, EXPERT WITNESS REPORT TO GET OUT.

AS SOON AS I GET THAT OUT, I'M GONNA SEND SOME PLANS TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL SET THAT UP.

I KNOW.