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HI, LADIES

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AND GENTLEMEN,

[Redistricting Map Meeting]

I'M READY TO GET STARTED IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO GO GET STARTED.

I KNOW THE CHAIRMAN IS, UH, IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE LATE COMING IN FROM A NEW ORLEANS.

UH, BUT SINCE THIS IS INFORMATION, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND KIND OF GET ROLLING.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY VOTES TAKEN THE DAY.

THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.

WE DO HAVE OUR NEXT WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY.

SO WHOEVER MISSES THIS ONE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CATCH THEM UP NEXT WEDNESDAY AND, UH, CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSIONS.

UM, WE'LL SEE, IN ALL OF Y'ALL AGAIN, UH, APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY SINCE OUR LAST ONE, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF, UH, NOVEMBER 22, UH, ELECTION CYCLE CLIENTS TO FINISH UP IN TIME FOR THE SUBMISSION DEADLINE THIS PAST MONDAY, WHICH THEY ALL BEEN DONE.

SO NOW MY, MY DECK IS CLEARED JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UH, SO THAT'S ME CONCENTRATE ON YOURS.

UH, YOU HAVE A CHARTER DEADLINE OF ADOPTING IN AUGUST.

UM, OTHERS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT LIMITATION THEY HAVE UNTIL ACTUALLY JUNE THE NEXT YEAR TO ADOPT.

UH, BUT SINCE THE CHARTER HAS A DEADLINE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW.

I'VE GOTTEN WHAT ASHLEY WE'VE BACKED.

THE DATES WORKED UP THE DATES BACKWARDS FROM THERE.

SO WE HAVE A SCHEDULE OF WORKSHOPS AND THEN INTRODUCTION AND THEN FINAL ADOPT.

SO THAT'S ALL BEEN MAPPED OUT WITH ASHLEY.

SO WE STAY ON TRACK.

OKAY.

SINCE WE LAST MET, UH, THE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, WAS CHALLENGED IN 19TH JDC JUDGE SMITH RULED THAT THE, UH, THAT THE STATUTE SAID YOU HAD TO USE WHOLE PRECINCTS.

EVEN IF IT CHANGED THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE BOARD, YOU STILL HAVE TO USE WHOLE PRECINCTS.

UH, THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS, THE, THE WHITE, BLACK RATIO NUMBER OF DISTRICT.

NONE OF THAT WAS PART OF THE TESTIMONY.

NONE OF THAT WAS PART OF THE HEARING.

IT WAS THE USE OF WHOLE PRECINCTS.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

BUT RAISE MY HEAD, JUST CONFIRMING THAT.

SO WE'RE NOW TO THE POINT, NO SPLIT PRECINCTS WHATSOEVER.

THE STATUTE SAYS THAT, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, MIRRORING STATUTES THAT FOR SCHOOL BOARD, IT SAYS THAT YOU SHALL USE WHOLE PRECINCT.

IF YOU DRAW A PLAN USING HOPE PRECINCTS AND MEET ALL YOUR DISTRICT AND CRITERIA AND APPLICABLE LAW, THEN YOU SPAT SHALL BE YOUR PLAN.

CORRECT.

BUT IF YOU CAN'T, THEN YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SPLIT FOR PARISH GOVERNING AUTHORITIES.

THEY SAY, IF YOU CAN DRAFT A PLAN THAT MEETS ALL APPLICABLE LAWS USING WHOLE PRECINCTS, THAT SHALL BE YOUR PLAN, UH, YOUR ABILITY TO SPLIT AND CREATE PRECINCTS.

DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE LATITUDE TO GO AND STRAIGHT .

SO SINCE YOU NOW HAVE, AT THIS POINT, I DO ADDITIONAL DECISION THAT SAYS YOU SHALL USE WHOLE PRECINCTS AND ELEVATES THAT TO THE TOP PRIORITY.

I THINK THE SAFEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS AT THIS POINT IS TO USE WHOLE PRECINCTS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I KNOW.

I AGREE.

I'M JUST SAYING WE ARE UNDER A DIRECTIVE NOW TO USE WHOLE PRECINCT AS OUR TOP MAIN PRIORITY.

YES.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE SAFEST ROUTE TO GO AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I JUST WANT THAT STATED, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER, AND JUST, CAN YOU D YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY, RIGHT? SO I DON'T, SOME PEOPLE MAY HOLD THAT AGAINST YOU.

I DON'T PERSONALLY, I'M ALSO AN ATTORNEY, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT ADDS A LEVEL OF CREDIBILITY WHENEVER YOU'RE TELLING US WHAT THE LAW IS.

AND I FIND THAT VERY INTERESTING WITH READING THESE OPINIONS AND KNOWING WHAT THE LAW STATES AND WHAT WE'RE WITHIN THE CONFINES OR NOT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF DOING MOVING FORWARD.

I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT PACK.

SO IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, WHEN WE WERE OVER AT THE LIBRARY, YOU MENTIONED, AND I HAVE TO GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THIS.

YOU MENTIONED, IF WE BEGAN TO DIVIDE PRECINCTS, WE WOULD, WE WOULD SEE POTENTIAL SCRUTINY OF OUR MAPS AND THAT YOU ADVISED US TO STAY WITHIN THIS CONFINES OF THE CURRENT PRECINCTS, HOW THEY WERE BUILT IN MAY.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO ME THAT ADDED TO YOUR CREDIBILITY, BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CAME TO FRUITION AND WHAT WE SAW PLAY OUT IN THE 19TH JDC BEFORE JUDGE SMITH.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I JUST WANT TO, I KNOW THAT YOU GET BATTERED IN FRONT OF US MULTIPLE TIMES WITH A BARRAGE OF OUR QUESTIONS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR THAT DUE DILIGENCE EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS.

WELL, I APPRECIATE IT.

MY, MY MAIN THING IS, FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT HERE TO GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE, BUT I DO KEEP UP WITH DECISIONS PARTICULARLY AT THE SUPREME COURT LEVEL, BECAUSE THOSE INTERPRET THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND HOW THEY'RE APPLIED FROM NATIONAL LEVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LOCAL LEVEL.

SO I LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP US WITHIN THOSE, THOSE BOUNDARIES.

AND YES, SOMETIMES I MAY BE SAYING SOMETHING THAT SOME MAY DISAGREE WITH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO I MAY NOT WANT TO HEAR IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT I FEEL MY OBLIGATION IS AT LEAST MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT.

UH, HERE, IF YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO UNDER PLAN ONE, I WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT FOLLOWS PRETTY MUCH YOUR CURRENT DEMOGRAPHICS, UH, WITH THE 2020, UH, WITHOUT SPLITTING ANY PRECINCTS.

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I THINK IT'S AS GOOD AS SAY PLAN THREE, B OR THREE OR TWO.

NO, NOT NECESSARILY THAT I, I, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THAT REALM OF SPLITTING PRECINCTS BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAY OPEN YOU UP TO A CHALLENGE.

UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF WORK ON TODAY.

UH, I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO PLANS USING HOPE PRECINCTS, THE ONE THAT PERCENT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, UH, WHICH IS PLAN ONE.

WE'VE NEVER USED PLAN WHEN I HAD THE LESSON PLAN ONE, BUT WE'VE NEVER USED ACTUALLY PLAN ONE.

SO THIS WILL BE PLAN ONE.

IT USES WHOLE PRECINCT.

I THINK YOU SAW WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS WERE WITH REGARDS TO THAT, THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS LARGELY FOLLOW YOUR CURRENT DEMOGRAPHICS, WHICH YOUR CURRENT DISTRICTS WITH THE 2020 POPULATION WITH REGARDS TO YOUR MINORITY PERCENTAGES, UH, AT LEAST THE VIABILITY OF THEM AND BRINGS THEM ALL WITHIN THE PLUS AND MINUS 5% BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING.

UM, I'VE ASKED COUNCIL, ADMINISTRATOR ASHLEY BACK, UM, TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW JUST FOR A MEMORY REFRESH OF BASICALLY AFTER SEEING WHAT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE SCHOOL BOARDS, WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE CANNOT AGREE ON MAPS? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS OUR DEADLINE? CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US THAT INFORMATION AGAIN? SURE.

UM, SO THERE ARE A FEW POSSIBILITIES FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF Y'ALL DO NOT COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO GET SEVEN VOTES FOR A PLAN.

UM, THE FIRST IS THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE CAN BRING A MALFEASANCE ACTION AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR FAILING TO ADOPT A PLAN.

UM, ANOTHER POSSIBILITY, BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD COME INTO PLAY JUST BECAUSE OF OUR ELECTION SCHEDULE, BUT THERE CAN BE A DELAY OF ELECTIONS WHEN, WHEN, UM, A PLAN IS NOT ADOPTED.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, A JUDGE CAN PUT A SELECTED PLAN BY THAT JUDGE IN EFFECT.

OKAY.

AND THEN JUST ONE ADDITIONAL FINAL QUESTION, AND THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX, BUT LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE APPROVE A PLAN, BUT IT'S AT THE LAST HOUR, WE FINALLY GET IT IN.

IT TAKES TIME FOR US TO GET THINGS ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE APPROVE A PLAN, A, IT GOES BEFORE A JUDGE AND IT'S DISQUALIFIED AS A VALID PLAN.

WHAT THEN HAPPENS? DOES THE TIMELINE STOP? DOES IT RESET? WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR US GETTING A NEW SET OF PLANS IN ORDER IF IT'S NOT ACCEPTED? SO THE PLANET GOVERNMENT REQUIRES YOU ALL TO ADOPT A PLAN WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE CENSUS BUREAU PUBLISHING THE DATA.

UM, I THINK YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THAT.

IF YOU, IF Y'ALL DO ADOPT A PLAN, IF YOU GET SEVEN VOTES FOR A PLAN, I THINK YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THAT.

NOW, IF A COURT DETERMINES THAT THAT PLAN DOES NOT MEET SOME ASPECTS OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, I THINK THEN WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE JUDGE'S ORDER, UH, GO THROUGH THE APPEAL PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, IF THE JUDGE KICKS IT BACK AND SAYS, HAVE GOT 10 DAYS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT DOES COMPLY WITH THESE PARAMETERS.

UM, I THINK AT THAT POINT, YOU, YOU HAVE AT LEAST COMPLIED WITH YOUR REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE, THE NEAREST DEADLINE, BECAUSE Y'ALL'S ELECTIONS ARE NOT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND CURRENTLY TO RESTATE WHAT IS THAT CURRENT DEADLINE WITH SOME REGARD TO SUBMISSION OF PLANS.

I'M SO SORRY.

I SHOULD HAVE PREPARED YOU FOR THIS.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, THE REASON WHY I ASK IS SIMPLY SO WE UNDERSTAND ALL THE RULES GOING FORWARD, BUT WE ALSO HAVE KEEP IN MIND THE TIMELINESS, THE NATURE OF THIS.

SO AUGUST 10TH IS Y'ALL'S FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST.

IT NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED.

I THINK THE DATE IS AUGUST 13TH, MIKE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED BEFORE AUGUST 13TH ON OR BEFORE AUGUST 13TH.

AND Y'ALL'S, UH, AUGUST MEETING, YOUR FIRST AUGUST MEETING IS AUGUST 10TH.

OKAY.

AND THAT, THAT ADDS AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF, UH, BURNING HURRY SINCE WE ARE ALL FOR MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITHIN THE MONTH OF JULY.

RIGHT? SO Y'ALL DO NOT HAVE A MEETING ON JULY 13TH, BUT MY, I WILL INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT A PLAN.

NOW IT'S UP TO Y'ALL WHAT PLAN THAT IS.

IT IS IT THAT I WILL SIMPLY JUST HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 10TH THAT PROVIDES YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS AND ADOPT A PLAN.

IF Y'ALL WISH TO HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING, AS YOU KNOW, THREE OF Y'ALL CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AT ANY TIME.

UM, IF Y'ALL WANT TO HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING TO DO THAT WE CAN.

AND THEN THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, I WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH WHOMEVER TO PUT AN AGENDA ITEM ON FOR THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT INFORMATION IS FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC, WHICH YOU YOU'RE LOOKING OUT TODAY AND SEEING A LACK THERE UP.

SO THE REALITY OF IT IS IF SOMEONE'S SITTING AT HOME OR SOMEONE THINKS THAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE

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TIME TO BE ABLE TO COME AND STATE THEIR POSITION ON THESE MAPS, IT'S LIMITED AND IT'S RUNNING OUT QUICKLY.

YEAH.

I'LL HAVE ANOTHER, UM, WE GET DRINKING AND WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON JULY 20TH.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, ALSO IN GOING BACK TO MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING YOU TALK ABOUT THE TUNEABLE OR PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL ITSELF, UM, IT WAS MENTIONED IN ONE OF THE OTHER MEETINGS, AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I'VE I'VE GOT FROM THAT JUST CONVERSATION THAT YOU JUST HAD WAS TECHNICAL.

WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING INTRODUCED IS GOING TO BE INTRODUCED ON THE 27TH OF JULY FOR A VOTE ON AUGUST 10TH IN GYM OR WHATEVER MAP WE DECIDED TO PICK AT THAT TIME.

CORRECT? YES.

SO THE ORDINANCE IS NOT GOING TO STATE A PARTICULAR MATH.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ADOPTING MAP THREE, BUT THERE WILL BE AN INTRODUCTION ON THE 27TH, THE VOTE WILL BE HELD ON THE AUGUST 10.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, CAUSE I MEAN, JUST FOR, FOR SAFETY SAKE AND FOR PUBLIC SAKE OR WHATEVER, I DO PLAN ON HAVING, OR OFFERING A MEETING THAT WHETHER I JUST GO TO A COFFEE SHOP WITH A MAP OR WHATEVER, OR IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS, I AM GOING TO DO THAT.

SO, UH, I GUESS THE DOMAIN THEY I'M TRYING TO PUT OUT THERE IS, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS ASKED IN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC MEETINGS ABOUT THE MINISTER, PRETTY MUCH THE DIRECT QUESTION WAS WHEN ARE WE GONNA HAVE OUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH OUR DISTRICTS TO THAT? NOW NOW'S THE TIME TO DO THAT.

YOU HAVE THAT OPTION.

IF YOU DON'T DO IT, THEN WE CAN'T COME UP AT UP HERE AND GO, WELL, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING.

WE, IT WAS IN THE EMAIL AT EMAIL THAT YOU HAD SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THESE MEETINGS ALSO ABOUT INDIVIDUALS HAVING THEIR OWN PUBLIC MEETINGS, CORRECT? YES.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING AT A LIBRARY AT A COMMUNITY CENTER TO PLEASE LET ME KNOW, UM, IN WHAT WAYS I CAN HELP SUPPORT THOSE MEETINGS, ALL OF THE MAPS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE.

THEY'RE ALL ON THE REDISTRICTING PAGE.

UM, WE ALSO NOW HAVE A MAPPING TOOL, THE MAPPING TOOL THAT MR. HAFFNER USED, AND I WILL FULL DISCLOSURE TO TELL YOU I GOT ON IT.

AND IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED, UM, SO, UH, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO CAN, WHO CAN DO IT BETTER THAN I COULD, BUT, UM, ALL THAT TO SAY, WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE.

AND AGAIN, IN WHATEVER WAY, MY OFFICE CAN SUPPORT ANY COMMUNITY MEETING BY PROVIDING LARGE PRINTED MAPS.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO DO IT.

UM, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THE TIME IS WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, FEW WEEKS, UM, TO HOLD THOSE MEETINGS, IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE INPUT THAT YOU MIGHT RECEIVE AT THIS MEETING, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND AGAIN, THE LAST THING I WANT TO HIT ON, AND YOU MENTIONED IT JUST A SECOND AGO, UM, AND JUST FOR MY UNDERSTANDING AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER UNDERSTANDING, IF WE DO OUR INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT MEETINGS, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE FULL RESOURCES OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, WHETHER IT WOULD BE MR. HAFFNER OR YOU, OR, OR WHATEVER, IF WE SCHEDULE APPROPRIATELY TO WHERE HE'S NOT DOING 14 MEETINGS AT 6, 6 0 5, 6, 10, 6 15, UH, EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULED ON ONE DAY, WE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO FULL RESOURCES, CAN GIVE TO THE PUBLIC.

I COMMIT TO PROVIDING ANY RESOURCES.

MY OFFICE CAN PROVIDE, UM, ANY RESOURCES THAT THE CITY CAN PROVIDE.

MR. HAFFNER HAS GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED SOME BEAUTIFUL LARGE-SCALE MAPS, UM, BUT WE CAN GET OUR ISDN DEPARTMENT TO PRODUCE THOSE AS WELL.

SO, UM, YES, TO ANY, TO THE EXTENT I CAN BE OF SUPPORT, PROVIDE INFORMATION, UM, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MR. HEPPNER SCHEDULE AT ALL.

LIKE YOU SAID, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST NEED TO BE, UM, THOUGHTFUL IF, IF THEY WANT HIM TO ATTEND, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, AARON'S BEING NICE.

I'M NOT A DEMOGRAPHER, SO THERE'S NO WAY I WANT TO COME TO A MEETING KNOWING THAT I CANNOT CONTROL THE MAPS THE WAY THAT I WOULD NEED TO HAVE THEM BE A CLUSTER IN FRONT OF WHOEVER SHOWED UP.

SO I DO WANT TO HOPE THE COMMUNITY MEETING, AND I'M DIRECTLY ASKING YOU TO SEND ME DATES AND TIMES THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE SO THAT YOU CAN BE THERE.

SO WHEN THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING ME QUESTIONS, YOU CAN MANIPULATE THE MAP TO SHOW THEM THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST AS A, AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT ALSO WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME.

THAT WAS A LOT OF TO US.

YEAH.

AND I, I WILL CERTAINLY TRY TO WORK MY SCHEDULE AROUND YOUR, UH, YOUR SCHEDULES, YOUR, UH, PREFERRED MEETINGS, IF YOU HAVE PREFERRED EITHER DAYS OF THE WEEK OR TIMES, THAT KIND OF HELPS WORK THROUGH MY SCHEDULE.

SO I CAN TRY TO KEEP THOSE OPEN, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU GOING IN FRONT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND BEING ASKED MAYBE SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE NOT

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COMFORTABLE ANSWERING.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO BE THERE FOR.

IT'S TRY TO GIVE YOU THAT SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY NEED TO SEE AND HEAR WHAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN HEARING THROUGH THESE WORKSHOPS AND ALSO TO HELP YOU OUT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE BORDERING DISTRICTS THAT I HAVE, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK, YOU KNOW, A LARGER SCALE.

SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO ATTEND 12 INDIVIDUAL ONES.

YOU KNOW, IF ME AND BRANDON WANT TO HAVE ONE OR ME AND YOU WANT TO HAVE ONE, UH, OR ANYBODY CAN VOTE, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO JOIN Y'ALL WITH THAT.

SO, I MEAN, YOU AND I HAVE TO DO PUMP THE GREENWELL SPRINGS LIBRARY RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN I COULD PARTNER WITH, UH, CAROLYN COLEMAN AND WE'LL DO ONE AT MY CENTER OR THE DELMONT LIBRARY.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THE 13TH RIGHT NOW JUST TO THROW THAT DATE OUT THERE FOR THE FIRST ONE.

OKAY.

I'LL TAKE TWO THAT WEEK.

MAYBE I DO TWO DAYS IN A ROW, BUT JUST CHECK FOR ME.

OKAY.

WE'LL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE YOU TO THE GREATEST EXTENT THAT I CAN, BUT REGIONALLY DOES TEND TO WORK PRETTY GOOD, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, YOU MOVE ONE DISTRICT THAT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBOR.

WE, ONCE I LIKE TO KIND OF CLUSTER THEM TOGETHER, IF WE CAN, IF IT'S CONVENIENT FOR THOSE FOLKS, FOR THE SAKE OF SCHEDULING THOSE MEETINGS, I'LL JUST THROW OUT THERE THAT I REALLY THINK THAT WE, AS A GROUP HAD OUGHT TO START CONSIDERING A SPECIAL MEETING.

AND I, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT I ALMOST FEEL LIKE WE'RE OBLIGATED TO AT THIS POINT.

UM, IF WE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON AN ITEM ON THE 10TH AND THE DEADLINE IS THE 13TH, IF WE DON'T GET TO SEVEN THAT NIGHT, WE'RE W WE'RE GOING TO MISS OUR WINDOW TO, UH, REQUEST US BECAUSE WE NEED 72 HOURS, RIGHT? 48, WELL, PRETTY CLOSE.

UM, SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT MIGHT BE ADVISABLE FOR US TO GO, UH, DO A SPECIAL MEETING IN EARLY AUGUST.

SO THE SOONER, THE BETTER ON THOSE DISTRICT MEETINGS WOULD BE, WOULD BE BEST.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

THAT'S IT.

NOW, AS YOU, AS YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO DO THESE VERY INFORMAL.

WE'RE DOING IT IN CHAMBERS NOW, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LAYOUT THAN OVER AT THE LIBRARY.

SO AS WE GET TO ANY QUESTIONS OR THINGS YOU WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR SPECIFIC DISTRICT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GO UP TO ANY OF THE MONITORS, ASK IT FROM YOUR, UH, FROM YOUR CHAIR, WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU.

UM, YES.

YEAH, BUT I'M ON A MIC.

ALL RIGHT.

SINCE YOU'RE ON THE MIC, I GUESS YOU'RE GONNA WANNA LOOK AT, UH, NORTH PART OF THE PARISH.

THAT'S RIGHT NOW I CAN PUT THE ROADS UP AT ANY TIME.

I KIND OF KEEP 'EM OFF RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR CLARITY OF THE MAP, UH, WHAT YOU SEE UP THERE, THE SHADED COLOR AREAS ARE YOUR, ARE THE DISTRICTS THEY, UH, BLUE OUTLINES ARE THE PRECINCTS WITH THE PRECINCT NUMBERS.

AGAIN, THE BOX IS DISTRICT NUMBER AT THE TOP DEVIATION.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE ABOVE OR BELOW THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, UH, THAT'S THE DEVIATION.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM ONE IS OUR, OF OUR BLACK POPULATION, TOTAL POPULATION FOR EACH OF THE DISTRICT THAT MOSTLY IS GOING TO GO INTO PLAY ON OUR TRADITIONAL MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF IT.

I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT LARGER TOO, FOR THE AUDIENCE TO SEE ERIC.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

COOL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S LOOK AT TWO, THREE AND TWO 15.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S THESE TWO RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT? ALL RIGHT.

SO, AND THE REASON I LOOKED AT THIS, WE KIND OF HAD SOMETHING THERE, BUT WE HAD SPLIT A PRECINCT.

I BELIEVE WE HAD SPLIT TWO.

I FORGET WHICH ONE, TO BE HONEST, I THINK HE SPLIT TWO, THREE.

OKAY.

UM, YOU SURE CAN.

I THOUGHT IT WAS BOTH.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IT, YEAH.

SO WE'RE BACK TO THE WHOLE PRECINCT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GO KIND OF ACROSS WHERE THE DIVERSION CANAL IS COMING THROUGH.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, SO LET'S DO TWO, THREE INTO TWO.

AND THE REASON THIS WORKED OUT WELL, IN MY OPINION LAST TIME WAS BECAUSE THE TREND HAS BEEN GROWTH TOWARDS DISTRICT ONE, UM, AND REGRESSION AND DISTRICT TWO.

SO I THINK PADDING TO ON THE, ON THAT SIDE OF THE DEVIATION IS PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE IF YOU CAN DO IT.

YES.

THAT'S A GOOD APPROACH, BUT THE NUMBERS ALLOW YOU TO WORK.

OKAY.

WE ADDED THAT IN THAT WORKED DISTRICT.

ONE IS AT A MINUS 2% DEVIATION DISTRICT TWO IS AT 8.7, 7% OR MINUS 0.77.

SO IT'S ALMOST RIGHT ON THE AVERAGE, HEY, I TAKE MORE POPULATION IF YOU NEED.

OKAY.

SO WHAT HAPPENS? I THOUGHT HE WAS DONE.

HOW ABOUT WITH TWO 15? UH, TWO 15.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES.

YEAH.

AT TWO

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15 IN THERE THAT PUTS ONE AT A MINUS 4.8, FIVE.

THAT'S GOOD.

BUT IT'S TOO AT A PLUS TWO.

THAT'S GOOD.

THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE MINORITY VOTING STRENGTH AT ALL.

PROBABLY.

I MEAN, I, THAT ONLY HEDGES FOR FURTHER GROWTH IN ONE.

AH, I THINK IT'S, UM, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S MORE EVEN LEAVING 2, 2 15 AND ONE, I WOULD SAY, UH, YEAH, BECAUSE YOU HAD A PLUS 6.9% DEVIATION, WHICH YOUR CURRENT DISTRICTS WITH THE 2020 CENSUS AND TWO WAS DOWN AT ALMOST 18%.

SO THAT IS A, THAT'S A GOOD APPROACH THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO GROW.

SO THAT BY 2030, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO MAKE AS MUCH OF AN ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE ACCOMMODATING SOME POTENTIAL GROWTH.

SO THAT'S, THESE ARE ALL GOOD.

THE ONLY THING IS IT TAKES A PORTION OF ZACHARY, WHICH I DIDN'T WANT TO DO WELL, I'D RATHER NOT SPLIT A MUNICIPALITY IF POSSIBLE, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT TO FIT, I MEAN, TWO 15 GOES ALL THE WAY FROM ZACHARY INTO BAKER.

SO IT'S ALMOST, IT'S, IT'S SIX, ONE HALF DOZEN OTHER.

YEAH.

THE VAST MAJORITY IS ACCURATE THOUGH IS STILL WELL WITHIN THE CORRECT.

WILL YOU TELL THEM, HUH? YES, YES, NO.

OKAY.

SO THOSE WORK, ALL RIGHT.

SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS I DO FOR DISTRICT, UH, THE DISTRICT FIVE, UH, ONE DASH 22 PRECINCT.

IF WE COULD PUT THAT IN THERE AND TELL THEM WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE US A CLEAR DIVIDE IN LINE OF EVANGEL.

AND I BELIEVE IN BEING, AND I CAN'T SEE IT WELL ON THIS MAP, THE ONE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US, BUT PRECINCT 1 22, WHAT IS THE ON THAT? IT IS TO THE L UH, IS GREEN IN THE MIDDLE.

AND IT'S NOW ON THAT MAP IS RED.

YEAH.

AT TWO DIFFERENT SOFTWARES WHEN I'M, UM, I MAKE THE, UH, THE MAPS WITH, UH, ART VIEW, UM, THAT I PRINT AND SEND TO Y'ALL, BUT MY ACTUAL PLANNING I USE MAPTITUDE, THAT'S WHY THE COLORS DON'T ALWAYS MATCH UP.

UH, AND MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S 1 22 RIGHT THERE.

AND THAT IS IN DISTRICT 10 CURRENT STREET SUBSTANCE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRETTY, SO THAT STRAIGHT LINE SHOULD BE SEEING THE CAR HIGHWAY NEXT TO IT.

THE RIGHT SIDE SHOULD BE A PLANK.

THAT ONE THAT GOES DIAGONAL, LIKE A TRIANGLE.

AND THEN THAT'S PLANK RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT.

THE 1 22 IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

SO YOU WERE LOOKING AT PUTTING THAT IN FIVE? YEAH.

TELL ME WHAT THAT DOES TO SEE WHAT SHE DOES.

ALL RIGHT.

ADD THAT HAND.

OKAY.

YOUR NUMBERS ARE GOOD AT A MINUS TWO.

YOUR MINORITY PERCENTAGE IS NOT AN ISSUE.

UH, DISTRICT 10 IS AT A MINUS 1.8 ON DEVIATION.

THAT'S GOOD.

IT'S MINORITY PERCENTAGE DROPS A LITTLE BIT TO 56%, BUT IT STILL SHOULD BE A VIABLE.

AND THEN I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT ON THERE.

UM, ONE DAY TWO WAS ALREADY IN THERE.

THE VOTING AGE POPULATION IS AT 53.2.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? WELL, THAT'S IT.

I CHOSE ONE DASH 82, BUT, UM, IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYED IN THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS.

CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AT DISTRICT NINE, DISTRICT NINE, NINE? SO THE, AT THE TOP THERE, UH, 3 21 IS RIGHT HERE.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S YEAH.

THAT'S THE ONLY ELAINE AREA.

I THINK WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PUT THAT IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

UM, I WAS CURIOUS WHAT, WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THE NUMBERS OF, AND PUT IT IN EIGHT.

RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THE THING WE'LL HAVE TO WATCH IS THAT, UH, WELL, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND SEE WHAT THAT BOUNDARY IS.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT WHOLE AREA.

AND IF WE HAD THAT INTO EIGHT, THAT BRINGS EIGHT TO PLUS 15 NINE TO MINUS NINE.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO OFFSET SOMEWHERE ELSE.

OKAY.

36%.

THAT, THAT PRECINCT IS KIND OF A 50, 50 ON THE RACIAL THING FROM WHAT I RECALL.

SO IT DIDN'T HAVE A BIG EFFECT ON THE RACIAL BALANCES WITH EIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, SO YEAH, IF WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE SOUTH PART NOW, I SUPPOSE EIGHT, 10 BLUE NINES.

THE SOUTH OF NINE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S FINE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

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SO I WOULD NEED TO GAIN SOMETHING ELSE.

RIGHT.

WE'LL NEED TO SHED SOME POPULATION OFF WITH EIGHT, UH, SOMEWHERE.

IT COULD GO TO 11 AND 11 BALANCE OUT WITH NINE.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE THAT CLUSTER RIGHT THERE, UH, BETWEEN NINE, EIGHT AND 11 AND POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, THREE DEPENDS HOW EVERYTHING FALLS INTO PLACE WITH YOU.

NUMBERS I'LL HAVE, I NEED TO REDUCE NINE NEEDS A PICKUP.

YOU CAN CHANGE 3 21 BACK FOR NOW.

I'LL HAVE TO DO SOME MORE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

GOOD THING ABOUT SOFTWARE.

WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND TAKE IT BACK OUT.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW LET'S ASK FOR SUGGESTIONS.

WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT PLAN ONE, USING WHOLE PRECINCTS AND TAKING IN SOME DIFFERENT, UH, MODIFICATIONS WITH REGARDS TO, TO THAT.

AFTER WE FINISHED WALKING THROUGH THIS, I'M GOING TO PULL UP PLAN ONE A, WHICH TOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT APPROACH.

IT USED WHOLE PRECINCTS, BUT, UH, I WENT BACK TO TRYING TO GET A, UH, AND IT'S GOING TO BE DISTRICT EIGHT BECAUSE OF THE WAY ITS DEMOGRAPHICS ARE TO GET IT AS CLOSE TO 50 50 AS I CAN.

UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE GET TO IT.

SO WE GOT KIND OF TWO PLANS TO LOOK AT, UH, AND JUST TO RECAP, BECAUSE OF THE JUDGE'S DECISION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD SAYING YOU HAVE TO USE WHOLE PRECINCTS, ALMOST SETS OUT ABOVE I, EVERY OTHER CRITERIA, I THINK AT THIS POINT, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON METRO PLAN IS CONTINUE TO USE OR USE WHOLE PRECINCTS.

UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

SO WE MADE SOME LITTLE MINOR CHANGES TO, UH, BETWEEN ONE AND TWO.

I KNOW.

AND FIVE AND 10, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW WE'RE STILL MODIFYING A LITTLE BIT, BUT I MEAN, THESE NUMBERS LOOK PRETTY SPOT ON LEGALLY FROM EVERY RECOURSE GOING FORWARD.

YES, YES.

YEAH.

TH THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS PLAN.

YEAH.

NOTHING COULD LOOK AT THIS AND GO, NO, I MEAN, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE JUST FALLING RIGHT INTO PLACE.

THE NUMBERS ARE VERY CLOSE OVERALL TO WHAT YEAR 2020 DISTRICTS ARE, AS FAR AS YOUR RATIOS GO.

UH, DISTRICT EIGHT WAS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT IT WAS AROUND A 36%, UH, MINORITY PERCENTAGE, UH, WITH YOUR 20, 20 DETERMINATIONS.

THIS KEEPS IT PRETTY MUCH AT THAT ONE.

A WILL ACTUALLY BRING DISTRICT EIGHT UP HIGHER ON THE MINORITY PERCENTAGE.

WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE, BUT OTHERWISE THIS PLAN IS A WHOLE PRECINCT PLAN AND THE NUMBERS ARE ALL GOOD.

UH, NONE OF THE CURRENT MENARD, UH, MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS ARE, UH, ARE IN JEOPARDY OF, OF NOT BEING VIABLE.

IF I COULD GET 10 UP A LITTLE BIT WITH THE CHANGE WHO MAY BETWEEN FIVE AND 10, IF I COULD GET THAT UP A LITTLE BIT, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

CAUSE IT WAS AROUND 59% WITH YOUR, UH, WITH THE DETERMINATIONS.

BUT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST LOOKING AT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, BUT OVERALL IT'S STILL HAS A VOTING AGE POPULATION THAT IS A MAJORITY.

AND, UM, AND SO IT, IT MEETS THE CRITERIA.

SURE.

SIX IS IN THE KIND OF THE KHAKI COLOR.

CAN WE SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO MOVE? UM, BREE SAYING, UH, 1 33 TO SEVEN.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THE STREETS OFF SO I CAN SEE THESE NUMBERS 1 33 AND WAIT A MINUTE TO FIND HIM THERE.

IT IS.

MOVE THAT TO SEVEN.

CAN WE MOVE THAT TO SEVEN AND ASSIGN IT A SIX? IS THAT A MINUS 2.48 ON DEVIATION AT 60% BLACK POPULATION SEVEN? IS THAT A PLUS 1.4 AND A 65%? 65 AND A HALF PERCENT BLACK POPULATION.

OKAY.

CAN WE JUST LEAVE THAT RIGHT THERE FOR RIGHT NOW? AND NOW CAN WE GO TO 12 PLEASE? SURE.

12 AND YELLOW.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

AT NOW.

FEEL FREE TO GO TO THE SIDE MONITORS IF YOU WANT TO GET IT DOWN AT EYE LEVEL, BECAUSE I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE POINTING ON THIS SIDE WITH THE SIDE MONITORS STATE.

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YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S 1 41.

ALL RIGHT.

SO 1 41 IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

WE'LL PUT THAT IN 12.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH ONE EIGHT? UH HUH.

AND PUT THAT IN, BRO.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE LOOKING LIKE.

ALL RIGHT.

SEVEN MINUTES.

IT'S A MINUS 5.5 60 ALMOST 70%.

MINORITY 12 WAS A LITTLE ON THE HIGH SIDE AT A 6.12.

UM, DEVIATION 10 IS A MINUS, UH, 1.1 AT 56.

IT DIDN'T CHANGE.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE NEED TO ADJUST SOMEWHERE ON YEARS TO GET YOU DOWN AROUND 5%.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL PULL SOME STREETS UP.

ALRIGHT.

SO THREE, FIVE YOU SAY, AND YOU WANT THAT INTO THREE? WELL, I'LL FIND OUT IT'S GOING TO INCREASE YOU A TO 21% AT ONE TIME.

THAT BRINGS THROUGHOUT IT TO 14.8% DEVIATION.

I'M LOOKING AT THIS A LITTLE NUMBER IN THIS LITTLE BOX RIGHT HERE.

OH, AND 10.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

MY APOLOGIES.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS 10 TO PLUS 9.3% DEVIATION WITH A 52% BLACK POPULATION THAT WE'RE DROPPING IT DOWN BY FOUR POINTS.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S 2,600 WHITES AND ONLY 761 BLACK.

OKAY.

INSTEAD OF, OR ADDING TO, WELL, ACTUALLY THAT'S THE ONE THAT BALANCES YOUR TWO DISTRICTS.

UH, IT BRINGS SEVEN AT UP ALMOST RIGHT ON AVERAGE AT A MINUS 0.03%.

SO IT'S RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

68.8% MINORITY.

NO ISSUE 12 HAS A 0.5, SEVEN ALMOST RIGHT ON THE MONEY, BUT YOU'RE GOOD.

YUP.

BALANCES OUT.

IT MAKES A GOOD CLEAN BOUNDARY RIGHT THERE.

AND AS LONG AS THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER ISSUE.

SO I WANT TO LOOK AT, UH, 2, 2, 2 DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO BOTTOM LINE IS, I'M TRYING TO ADD MORE DIVERSITY IN MY DISTRICT.

I AM 89.

EXCUSE ME.

I BELIEVE PERCENT AFRICAN AMERICAN RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ABSURD, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF, OF THE, UM, UH, LARGEST AFRICAN-AMERICAN AREA.

RIGHT.

SO I WAS TRYING TO HARD IF I GO.

SO THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN ADD THE DIVERSITY THAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS TO EITHER GO, RIGHT, WHICH IS THREE DASH 54, WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT HAS NO STREETS THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FARM LAND.

UM, I'D HAVE TO GO TO ONE DASH 97 OR 88 OR 20.

YES.

AND WHERE,

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AND WHERE DO YOU LIVE, MAN? THAT'S THE PRODUCT RIGHT ABOVE.

OH, I GOT, I GOT YOU.

I GOT YOU.

YEP.

SO I WANT TO BE HEARING COUNCILMAN BY THE WAY.

YEAH.

UH, SO I'D HAVE TO GO DOWN AND I SEE, I CAN'T GET INTO CLEAVE, SO I'M EITHER GOING 20, 88, 97 TO 3 54 TO HALF OF CONTIGUITY AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE.

AND YOU CAN PLAY WITH THAT AND ON THE OTHER.

YUP.

I'M SORRY, THOSE ALL, BUT LIKE, BUT UP AGAINST EACH OTHER, DID YOU WANT TO ADD, I WANTED TO ADD THREE, UM, EVEN 97 COULD, YOU CAN ADD 3 54 AND YOUR NUMBERS ARE OKAY, BUT WHAT'S THE POPULATION OF 3 5400.

IT'S ONLY 843 PEOPLE, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT'S MOSTLY RURAL AREA.

8 43, UH, 1 0 8 WHITES, 6 0 4 BLACK.

BUT IT, NOW IT'S ADDING MORE BLACKS TO YOUR AREA, BUT IT'S ALSO BRINGING IN YOUR, IF I DID ONE DASH 97, CAUSE, UM, TO IT 1 97 IS GOING TO BE, UH, OKAY.

THAT ONE'S ALL RIGHT.

I WAS, I WAS ABOUT TO LOOK AT WHAT THIS ONE WAS RIGHT HERE AND SWITCHING THEIR CORNER RIGHT THERE.

1 97.

WE'RE GOOD.

BUT AS FAR AS GEOGRAPHY GOES, WE'RE GOOD.

AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS GO, LET ME, LET ME APPLY IT.

AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

WE GOT AN INFINITE POINT RIGHT HERE, RIGHT IN THAT LITTLE AREA THERE.

SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ADD EITHER, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT, I'LL HAVE TO ADD EITHER 3 54 OR WE'LL HAVE TO COME IN ON 180 8.

I CAN JUST MAKE A HANDSHAKE LIKE I'M DOING RIGHT NOW ON THAT CORNER.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S LOOK AT 180 8 ALL AT 3 54, 3 DASH 54.

ALRIGHT.

180 8.

OKAY.

LET'S LOOK AT THE TYPE.

SO THAT'S ON RIGHT HERE AND IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO YOURS BECAUSE ONE 20 IS IN THE WAY.

OKAY.

LET'S LOOK AT ONE 20.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT ONE.

I WILL PUT ONE 20 NOW.

I'LL HAVE TO HAVE ALL WELL AT THE MOMENT, THAT'S GOING TO CUT OFF 180 8 FROM CLEAVES DISTRICTS.

SO WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT, BUT LET'S JUST SEE WHAT IT DOES.

THAT WON'T WORK.

NO POINT EVEN DOING IT WON'T WORK.

YEAH.

IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY BE 6.7% DEVIATION.

SO, SO, UM, AND IT CUTS OFF HIS TONIC, UH, KIND OF VIEWED AS WELL.

YES.

UM, LET'S GO.

LET'S GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DISTRICT.

SO I'M PRETTY MUCH ALL AARON ON THIS SIDE.

LET ME GO UP JUUL.

OR IS HE, HE BROUGHT, HE GAVE ME SOME IDEAS EARLIER ABOUT TRYING TO DO IT.

WHEREAS JEWELER WAS GOING TO BE UP HERE.

THIS IS HOOPER.

THIS IS SULLIVAN.

THIS IS YOU'RE RIGHT HERE.

HEY, I'M 3 58 COMES UP ON JURY WHEELS SPRING.

I'M GOING TO COME IN A LITTLE HIGHER.

YOU'LL HAVE THE MAP ON YOUR SCREENS.

YEAH, NOT ALL.

I MEAN, I DON'T, I'M USING THE, THE WILLIAMS CENTERS, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT COLOR.

SO IT'S THROWING ME OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT UM, WHAT'S THE ONE WITH, UH, WITH, UH, WITH NUMBERS.

UH, YEAH, SO DON'T KNOW.

SO WHERE'S JOE IS THIS, THIS IS JEWEL RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS A TOUCH SCREEN.

THIS IS JULIA RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING THIS RIGHT HERE.

YEP.

SO 3 58.

LET'S SEE.

WHEN I WAS LEAVING THE OTHER SIDE ALONE, I GUESS 1200 PEOPLE YOU DEVIATIONS FOR BOTH OF Y'ALL ARE GOOD.

AND IT'LL BRING YOUR MINORITY PERCENTAGE DOWN A TINY BIT FROM 89 TO 88.

OH, OKAY.

HE SAID I'M SPLITTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T KNOW THE AREA THAT WELL, SO THE DRIVE IS RIGHT THIS RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU TAKE IT IN.

AND SO THERE'S STUFF THAT'S NOT ON THIS MAP.

WHAT'S THE DISTRICT RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

CAUSE I DON'T SEE A NUMBER.

IS IT A LOT, MUCH LARGER PRECINCT? YES.

FROM RIGHT HERE AT THREE NINE, WHEREVER YOU SEE A CONESTOGA GOING TO MY HOUSE.

YEAH, THAT'S COMING.

THAT'S PRECINCT THAT ERRANDS JAM.

NOPE.

THAT WON'T WORK.

THIS ONE TAKES HIM GOING UP TO NORTH END ALL THE WAY UP TO HOOPER AND INTO CENTRAL.

THAT'S GOING TO THROW THE DEVIATION FOR YOU OFF INTO THE 8% RANGE IN AARON DOWN TO MINUS 10.

WHAT IF I TOOK THREE DASH 30 THAT'S C? WHICH ONE WAS THAT? THREE DASH 30, 3 30.

THAT'S THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S WHEN IT JUST GOES UP TO HOOPER AND COMES DOWN, SOLOMON, THE LOVE IT THAT COMES

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INTO THE CENTRAL AREA.

THAT BOOKS YOU HAD A, IF WE ADDED THAT, THAT PUT, YOU HAD A PLUS 8% DEVIATION AND AARON HAD A MINUS 10, SO Y'ALL WOULD END UP HAVING TO SWAP OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I DON'T THINK I SEE THE BEST YOU CAN DO TO PUT THOSE TWO BACK AND WORK ON THE BOTTOM.

YOU WANT IT TO INCREASE? I MEAN THERE'S EVERYTHING AND PUTTING THE VIDEO UP.

OH YEAH.

3, 5 8 IS IN CENTRAL.

I MEAN, I SEE WHAT YOU WANT IN THE COMMENTS, BUT IT WAS GOING TO AIR THAT.

SO WHAT ABOUT ONE DASH? OH, WE TALKED ABOUT 1 97 AND 3 54 TOGETHER.

THAT COULD, I THINK THAT CUTS ARONOFF IF WE GET, DO IT THAT WAY NO, IT DIDN'T CUT ME OFF.

THEY HAVE A SEC.

YEAH.

I THINK THOSE TWO WOULD WORK, UH, DARRYL, UM, 3 54, NOT HIGHLY POPULATED COMPARED TO YOUR OTHER.

YUP.

1 97.

UH, IT PUTS, UH, AARON JUST A SMIDGEN LOW AT A MINUS 5.75.

AND WHERE DOES IT PUT ME? IT PUTS YOU AT A PLUS 3.9, EIGHT AND 88% BLACK POPULATION.

THAT'S A LOT, BRO.

YEAH.

THE ONLY WAY ACTUALLY GOT A GAIN, MORE WHITE POPULATION.

YOU EITHER GOING NORTH OR YOU'LL HAVE TO DRILL DOWN INTO THE CROSS CLEAVE TO GET THERE.

SO THAT WON'T WORK.

YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

SO THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS TO TAKE AARON'S HOUSE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU READY TO MOVE, MAN? I'M SURE HE WOULD MOVE OUT TO A THREE 30.

WE'RE ONLY, THE ONLY PLACE I COULD REALLY MOVE WOULD BE THREE 30.

UM, WHICH CUTS INTO THE HEART OF AARON'S DISTRICT.

I'M GOING TO BACK THAT OUT FOR RIGHT NOW, JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF OUR NUMBERS.

UH, THREE 30.

YEAH.

SO, YEP.

THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT WOULD DO ANYTHING TO CARE OF HIS DISTRICT.

LET ME SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I THINK WE JUST DID IT, BUT DO IT AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW, REMEMBER WE, WE, UH, MADE SOME OTHER LITTLE JUSTIN, WE TOOK 3 58 OUT, SO THAT'S NOT IN YOUR DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT PUTS YOU AT A PLUS FIVE, BUT IT PUTS AARON IN A MINUS SEVEN.

WE DO THAT BY AND WHAT'S THE POPULATION.

IS THAT INCREASE ON THAT? WHAT DOES IT PUT US UP? IT BRINGS YOUR MONARCH BLACK POPULATION DOWN TO 84%.

UM, BECAUSE THAT, THAT PRECINCT AT, UH, 2100 WHITES VERSUS ONLY 365 BLACK GUYS, AARON WILL NEED TO PICK UP A LITTLE BIT SOMEWHERE ELSE, PICK UP A COUPLE OF PERCENT POPULATION, IF THAT HOLDS TRUE.

IF, IF THAT STAYS IN YOUR DISTRICT.

SO REALISTICALLY THAT'S THE ONLY PRECINCT THAT WOULD GIVE ME KIND OF BEAUTY AND OH YEAH, I KNOW, MAN.

I'M, IT'S THE ONE THAT GIVES YOU THE GREATEST REDUCTION IN YOUR MINORITY PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS STILL UP IN THE WELL, MID DUMPER EIGHT.

I MEAN, I'M JUST, I'M JUST PLAYING WITH STUFF FOR YOURSELF AND READY TO, UM, PUT ME TO SLEEP OVER HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING, BUT JUST WANT TO PLAY WITH NUMBERS AND SEE WHERE WE COULD.

AND THIS IS AWFUL.

I WANT Y'ALL TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THESE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS AND PLEASE CHECK THE 13TH, MAN.

CAUSE I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE IT.

IF YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDAR HANDY, ANDY DANDY NOTEBOOK 13TH, 13TH.

ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT THE 13TH HOLES FROM ME ACTUALLY 13TH IS OPEN FOR RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU WANT ME TO JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT A LITTLE PENCIL IT IN, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, PUT YOU AT THE CHARLES R. KELLY CENTER.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

UM, ONLY BECAUSE BEFORE YOU SAY YOU WERE GOING TO DO IT, I TEXTED CARE.

AND THEN WHEN HE SAID 10 AND TOLD HER THE 13TH AND THEN, BUT I THINK WE COULD DO A BACK TO BACK THOUGH, IF YOU WANT TO DO WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE IT PENCILED IN OR TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.

OH, YEP.

SO WE'LL JUST DO CHECK IT TWO THIRDS AND WE'LL DO THEM TO BACK TO BACK OR WHAT, SEE WHAT WE GOT, UM, THURSDAY IS LOOKING PRETTY GOOD TOO OR THE OTHER, UH, I, YEAH, NORMALLY AFTER WE'VE MET AS A GROUP, A COUPLE OF TIMES

[00:45:01]

EVERYBODY KIND OF GETS A FEEL FOR WHAT EVERYBODY'S INTEREST IS.

I USUALLY DON'T LIKE TO GO OVER AN HOUR TO AN HOUR AND A HALF PEOPLE EITHER.

THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED.

LIKE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE OR THEY GET TIRED AND IT BECOMES LESS PREDOMINANTLY.

OH WE CAN.

YEAH.

I MEAN, YEAH, IT FREE, IT, IT, UH, IT HELPS, UH, MY SCHEDULE OR LOOK I'VE FOR THE LAST 10 MONTHS.

THAT'S RIGHT, EXACTLY.

YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS? YOU HAVE FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH CENTRAL.

OH YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FOR NOW WE'LL JUST BACK THAT OUT, UNLESS Y'ALL WANT TO KEEP THAT IN ON THAT VERSION.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY ON ONE OR RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

THE REASON I ASKED YOU WHAT YOU DID TO GET HERE.

I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.

YEAH.

BE IN THE MORNING, WHATEVER.

I'M LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SEE.

YEAH.

WELL, I FOUND THAT NAP RIGHT HERE NOW.

YEAH.

SO EVERY NUMBER IS IMBALANCED THOSE, CORRECT? YEAH.

AS BEST WE CAN GUESS.

I HAVE ANOTHER PLAN THAT I WORKED UP THAT I WAS WORKING ON AT THE TIME I SENT THIS TO Y'ALL.

I WANTED TO GET IT TO ASHLEY.

SO Y'ALL COULD AT LEAST GET IT IN YOUR HANDS AND PREPARATION FOR TODAY.

UH, ONE A, WHICH I'M GETTING READY TO GO INTO.

I KNOW THERE'S AN INTEREST IN SEEING WHAT CAN WE DO TO TRY TO CREATE OR INCREASE THE MINORITY PERCENTAGES OF AN ADDITION OF DISTRICT, WHICH THIS ONE WOULD INVOLVE EIGHT BECAUSE EIGHT'S GOING TO BE THE CLOSEST TO IT, TO GETTING TO THAT, UH, THAT GO, THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF DISTRICTS AROUND IT.

SO I WANTED TO KIND OF, BEFORE WE, UH, LEFT TODAY, I WANT TO GO OVER PLAN ONE A WITH YOU, WHICH HAS TO DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU NEED TO KIND OF SEE HOW THE NUMBERS ARE FALLING AND HOW THE BOUNDARIES ARE FALLING WITH REGARDS TO THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING, GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THIS ONE.

YEP.

WE'RE DONE WITH THIS ONE FOR NOW.

YEAH, SURE.

WHAT YOU DID.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THESE TWO RIGHT THERE.

WELL, UNDER THIS PLAN, LET'S SEE WHAT YOUR CURRENT DISTRICT, YOUR CURRENT DISTRICT CAME RIGHT HERE.

SO THIS ISN'T NEW FOR YOU.

THIS IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

HOW MANY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS DO YOU HAVE THOUGH? UP HERE.

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OH, OH YEAH.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

IT'S BICYCLE TWO 14 WOULD BE B 14 WOULD BE, WOULD BE THAT PRECINCT RIGHT THERE.

UH, OH YEAH.

YEAH.

PROBABLY.

ISN'T GONNA THROW Y'ALL DEVIATIONS OFF.

I DON'T MIND HIM FOR, OH YEAH.

YOU'D HAVE TO GIVE UP ONE OF THE OTHER ONES.

WHAT ABOUT IF YOU TOOK TWO 18 INSTEAD OF THAT ONE THAT'S COMING IN ON THE END, THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT EVEN WORSE BECAUSE NOW YOU'VE DONE A PLUS EIGHT AND SEVEN PLUS SEVEN.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THE LITTLE SIDE MONITORS MAY BE EASIER TO, TO LOOK AT TOO.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT ONE? LET ME, UM, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK VIEW.

WHAT'D YOU SEE IN THE, UH, BROWN LINE, ARE YOU CURRENT DISTRICTS? AND AS YOU SEE WHERE THE COLORS GO OVER, THAT'S A CHANGE BETWEEN YOUR CURRENT DISTRICT AND WITH THIS WOULD BE UNDER THIS VERSION OF PLAN ONE.

SO YOU SEE NOT A LOT OF CHANGE WITH FIVE, NOT A LOT OF CHANGE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE WITH TWO LITTLE BIT WITH 10, LITTLE BIT WITH THREE AND 12, BUT WE, THOSE WERE ALL ON THE HIGH END.

SO THEY HAD TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS A LITTLE BIT WITH NINE, EIGHT IS NOT TOO BAD.

SO THIS BALANCES OUT THE PLAN MAKING PRETTY MUCH A MINIMAL CHANGES TO YOUR EXISTING DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO MAKE, AS THE SUPREME COURTS ON THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT SAID, MAKE AS LITTLE CHANGE AS POSSIBLE TO YOUR CURRENT DISTRICTS TO ACHIEVE YOUR, UH, YOUR BALANCES.

SO THIS PRETTY MUCH DOES THAT IN MY OPINION, AND WE USE WHOLE PRECINCT.

SO I THINK WE HIT CHECKING OFF ALL THE BOXES WITH REGARDS TO THAT, FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

NOW LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO, THIS IS A MODIFICATION OF PLAN ONE, OKAY.

THROUGH CHANGES HERE FROM WHAT Y'ALL WERE SENT YESTERDAY.

SO I'M GOING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN NUMBER FOR THIS ONE SO WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF IT.

SO, UH, BUT I WANTED YOU TO AT LEAST GET AN OVERVIEW BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NEXT MAP ON WHAT CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

BUT WE WOULD GO UP TO, OKAY, THIS ONE WAS BENT A LOT AND THAT'S ONE REASON YOU DIDN'T GET IT YESTERDAY.

CAUSE I SPENT A NUMBER OF HOURS ON IT YESTERDAY EVENING.

AND ACTUALLY THIS MORNING TRYING TO FINISH IT UP TO TRY TO GET THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS FAR AS THE OBJECTIVE OF TRYING TO GET CLOSER TO ANOTHER, EITHER MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT OR AS CLOSE TO IT THAT WE COULD.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT THIS IS, SO JUST QUICK UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS THE MAP THAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW TO TRY AND CREATE ANOTHER MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT.

IT DOES NOT HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW, AN EXTRA

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DISTRICT YET, BUT WITH YOUR CALCULATIONS THAT YOU SAID, YOU WORKED ON FOR HOURS LAST NIGHT, THIS IS AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET TO THAT.

AND THEN WE BUILD FROM HERE.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

YES.

YEAH.

SO IF Y'ALL HAVE IDEAS THAT MAY IMPROVE THIS, THAT I AM, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.

YES.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT AS BALANCED AS I CAN OR WITHOUT JUST TOTALLY THROWING EVERYTHING OUT AND OPENING Y'ALL UP TO THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT CHALLENGE.

SHOULD Y'ALL GO WITH THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, THAT DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE.

IT'S A BALANCE WE HAVE TO TAKE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REDISTRICTING CRITERIA.

AND AS A WHOLE, WE CAN'T JUST TAKE RACE AND SAY THAT'S OUR MOST IMPORTANT THING.

AND TO HECK WITH CON UH, CONTINUITY OR COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST OR DEVIATIONS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO DO IT AS PART OF THE PROCESS WHERE IT'S A CONSIDERATION, BUT IT'S NOT THE SOLE CONSIDERATION.

SO SINCE MINE LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S OUT OF DEVIATION, UNDERSTANDABLY ONLY 0.4, TWO, BUT IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY ONE OUT OF DEVIATION.

WHAT? THE THREE POINT THE 3 54 AND 1 97.

THOSE TWO WE PUT INTO COUNCILMAN FIRST AREA, EVEN IN THE OTHER MAP.

YES.

SO WHAT, BUT IT WAS STILL WITHIN DEVIATION.

WHAT DID I YOU'RE DOWN HERE.

SO YOU CAME FURTHER DOWN AT 1.89.

YEAH.

SO YOU GOT 3 21, 1 98 AND 180 9 ZOOM IN ON THAT AREA WHERE 3 28, 1 91 89.

COME IN.

THIS IS COMING OUT OF NINE, EIGHT.

AND WHY DID WE HAVE TO DO THAT? BECAUSE I HAVE TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO GET H NUMBERS UP, WE EITHER HAVE TO TAKE WHITE POPULATION OUT OR ADD BLACK POPULATION IN, OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH OH ONE DASH EIGHT NINE.

WHAT IS THAT TO DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE OR YOU WANT TO KNOW REASSIGNMENT FOR WHITE? 180 9 HAS A 1,119 WHITE AND 196 BLACK.

AND THAT'S WHY I HAD TO COME OUT OF HERE.

BASICALLY.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE DONE ON MY SIDE TO TRY AND GET EIGHT, FIVE.

NOT YET.

NOW IT MAY BE THROUGH A COMBINATION OF MOVES WITH OTHER DISTRICTS THAT MAY OPEN UP POSSIBILITY.

UH, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ON THE HIGH SIDE.

WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME WHERE YOU'RE DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND YOU NEED TO GIVE UP SOME, WHAT IS 3 27, 3 27.

THE OTHER PRETTY THAT'S MOST RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

3 27 OUT OF 1300 WHITE, 2100 BLACK THAT'S HOME.

YEAH.

RED IT'S MORE BLACK POPULATION.

OKAY.

YEAH, HE PUT THAT IN IT AND EACH COUNTY AT ANY TIME, YOUR DISTRICT I'M SCREWING UP.

OKAY.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT.

THESE INCREASED BUR FIVE THAT PUT, IF WE ADDED THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BRING IT TO 48%.

SO A SMALL IMPROVEMENT IN THE OVERALL NUMBER, BUT IT PUT OUT A PLUS NINE, SO YOU'D HAVE TO LOSE SOMEWHERE.

AND IT'S WHERE IT LOSES IS WHERE WE RUNNING INTO THE ISSUE OF IT AFFECTING THE BLACK PERCENTAGES AGAIN.

BUT I'M NOT SAYING WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COLLECTIVELY COME UP WITH A BETTER CONFIGURATION.

THAT'S ALL I COULD DO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.

THE MOVES THAT I MADE EARLIER, THEY WILL EIGHT OH, VISUALLY WITH ALEX IS UM, 33 7 1 DASH THREE, THREE.

DIDN'T PULLED UP HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

ONE DASH 33 THIRD.

SEE WHERE THE NUMBER SIX IS RIGHT ABOVE IT.

YEAH, THAT ONE MOVED INTO SEVEN OPPOSITE

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NOW.

RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT HERE, BUT THEN SEVEN.

OH, OKAY.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES.

ALL RIGHT.

1 33.

POP THAT IN.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN 1 77, 1 DASH 73 INTO SEVEN.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN ONE DASH EIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU HAD A PLUS EIGHT, MR. MONTOYA'S FINE.

ELEVEN'S FINE.

OH, AS FAR AS DEVIATION GOES, UM, LAMONT'S UH, JUST UNDER 60% BLACK POPULATION.

IT IS.

YES.

WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING TO SHIFT OFF SOMEWHERE.

HOW IS THAT? THE MATH WE JUST LOOKED AT, UH, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY THESE CONFIGURATIONS RIGHT OVER IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE I, WE HAD TO SHIFT OFF POPULATION WITH EIGHT AND TO, INTO NINE AND 11.

AND THAT HAD A DOMINO EFFECT BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO DO HERE, EIGHT NEEDS TO PICK UP MINORITY POPULATION.

THAT'S WHY IT'S HAVING TO COME UP NORTH AND WEST.

UH, AND IT HAS TO LOSE SOME OF THE WHITE POPULATION ON THE SOUTH END.

SO NINE HAD TO PICK UP SOME 11 HAD TO PICK UP SOME THAT HAD A ROLLOVER EFFECT INTO EIGHT.

AND, UH, I MEAN INTO 12 AND 3, 3, 3 DASH 3 44.

FOR NOW, REMEMBER YOU HAVE TO LOSE POPULATION.

YOU HAVE TO LOSE YOU TO HIGH.

11 CAN TAKE SOME THREE CAN TAKE A TINY BIT.

OH YEAH.

WHAT ABOUT, UH, THREE DASH 43? WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT 3 52 DOES UNTIL 11.

NOT YET NEXT MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT PUTS YOU DOWN TO A, A PLUS, UM, THAT PUTS 11 OUT OF PLUS SIX.

AND IT BALANCES YOU OUT.

WHERE IS THERE? WHERE WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU WERE SUGGESTING? LET'S SEE WHAT THAT DOES.

THAT PUTS 11 AT A PLUS A PLUS FOUR.

AND IT PUTS YOU AT A PLUS TWO.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, THE NUMBERS BALANCE.

OKAY.

BUT IGNORED.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU'RE SHIFTING ALL THAT AROUND.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE BETTER.

WHAT? SO YEAH.

OKAY.

LET ME PUT UP THE MAJORITY MINORITY BLOCK SOSA CENSUS BLOCKS THAT HAVE MORE BLACK THAN WHITE AND LIVING HERE.

OH.

SO CAN WE WORK AT THIS WAY? AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, DENISE, SORRY, BECAUSE IT'S EVERYBODY KEEPS THROWING IN.

DOES IT LOOK LIKE DENISE'S IS GOING TO BE THE CLOSEST THING THAT WE CAN GET TO A SECOND MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT? YES.

CAUSE YOU ALREADY PARTIALLY THERE.

OKAY.

AND THAT AREA IS GROWING MORE MINORITY POPULATION.

OKAY.

FROM 2010.

SO IT'S TRENDING MORE MINORITY POPULATION THAN ANY OF THE OTHERS.

SO CAN WE, CAN WE START FROM THERE, MAKE IT A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT, BRETT YOU WITH YOUR MAP, GRAB WHATEVER YOU CAN.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT WE SAY.

JUST MAKE IT A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT, WHEREVER THE NUMBERS ALL AROUND IT LIE.

AND THEN WE WORK OUR WAY OUT FROM THERE.

WOULD THAT BE WAY I WAS TRYING TO DO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO, BUT TRYING TO REBALANCE YOUR DEVIATIONS AND HD RADIATION STATS, WHERE IT CAME BACK DOWN TO ONE A WHERE WE ARE RIGHT HERE, THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE ELSEWHERE.

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE, IF YOU HAD TO TAKE IN, UH, THE MIND, ANYBODY ELSE AROUND YOU JUST MAKE THAT ONE, A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT AND SEE WHAT THE REST OF THE NUMBERS DO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT, OKAY.

SO YOU CAN COME IN AND LET'S, LET'S JUST SAY WE WILL PICK UP 1 54.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOT 6 88

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WHITE AND 24 69 BLOCK.

THAT BRINGS EIGHT UP TO A, UH, 49.4, 8% BLACK POPULATION.

RIGHT? DIRECTION.

PROBLEM IS DEVIATION.

NOW, IS IT A PLUS EIGHT? GOT YOU GOT TO LOSE POPULATION.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S TAKE A ONE MORE HERE AND JUST SEE IF WE CAN'T BUMP IT UP OVER 50, THAT ONE DOESN'T HELP THAT ONE'S BRINGING US ACTUALLY DOWN TO 48% SO THAT WON'T HELP.

LET'S SEE 3 27.

THAT BRINGS IT TO 49.7, WHICH IS ONLY A FRACTION OF A POINT HIGHER.

YES.

MAKES YOU DEVIATION OUT OF PLUS 19, WHICH IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO RECOVER FROM.

IT ALSO BRINGS A 11 OVER TWO, A MINUS 6.69.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT GIVES YOU ENOUGH GAIN TO OFFSET THE DOWNSIDE OF IT.

UM, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? WHAT ABOUT 1 97? THAT BRINGS DEVIATION TO PLUS 12, BUT ONLY A MARGINAL CHANGE GOING UP.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

NOW WHERE I SPIN IT OFF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE YOU COMING DOWN INTO THIS AREA TO PICK UP SOME OF THE WHITE TO GUESS NINE.

CAN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT.

THAT'S WHY, OR WHAT'S COMING DOWN OVER IN THIS AREA, BUT LET'S SAY IT.

LET'S TRY TO GET IT BIBLES.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE HAVE TO MOVE SOME TO OUT OF THERE.

SO LET'S MOVE 3 72.

THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN TAKE IT IT'D BE FOUR.

OKAY.

SO THAT BRINGS IT THE, UH, MINORITY PERCENTAGE TO 49.49.

DOESN'T REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE.

IT'S A 49.48.

RIGHT NOW IT BRINGS A DEVIATION.

OKAY.

BUT IT BRINGS FOUR UP TO PLUS 11.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I DIDN'T GAIN ANYTHING ON MY MINORITY PERCENTAGE.

I FIXED THE, THE DEVIATION AND EIGHT THAT WORKS PROBLEM IS FOR NOW HAS TO LOSE POPULATION SOMEWHERE.

WHERE DOES IT LOSE IT POPULATION TOO? AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE FIVE OR NINE WOULD HAVE TO COME IN.

UH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT, AND MAYBE ONE, CAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT BORDER THE AREA.

UH, UH HUH.

I, I, AGAIN, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO CREATE A SECOND MAJORITY MINORITY MAJORITY DISTRICT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I TURNED NUMBER, NUMBER EIGHT NEEDS TO GO ABOVE 50%.

ACTUALLY IT NEEDS TO GET TO GO ABOVE 50% OF VOTING AGE POPULATION WHERE IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ABOUT A 50, NOT JUST, NOT JUST 50%, UH, BLACK, IT HAS TO BE 50% OF WHEN DID YOU VOTING AGE POPULATION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU YOUR REGISTERED VOTERS OR A MUCH MORE ACCURATE AS REGARDS TO THIS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE COUNTS WITH THE CENSUS.

SO, UM, ON OTHER PLANS, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE, UH, REGISTERED VOTERS FROM AUGUST OF 21, UH, TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT THE ACTUAL VOTER DEMOGRAPHICS LOOK LIKE.

OKAY.

SO, AND WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY TO GET YOUR YOU'RE A VOTING AGE POPULATION, ABOUT 50% AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE.

WHAT IS THE MAJORITY OF MINORITY DISTRICT NOW? WHAT IS OUR MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT NOW? UH, BUT I THOUGHT ONLY ONE DISTRICT WAS A GUARANTEED AND MAJORITY OF IT, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHY WE WERE CREATING A SECOND ONE.

WHAT'S THE SECOND ONE WE'RE CREATING.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED.

HUH? NO, I'M THINKING OF EYES DON'T WE HAVE A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT NOW.

YEAH.

SO CLEAVES REQUESTS THAT I SENT THAT I FORWARDED WAS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL, UM, MINORITY MAJORITY DISTRICT, MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT SIX, SIX, THAT THAT'S CLEAVES STATED GOAL.

AND WHICH IS WHAT I FORWARDED TO MIKE AND WHICH THIS MAP IS TRYING TO GET CLOSER TO IS SIX, SIX.

AND AGAIN, EXCUSE MY ENGLISH OR WHATEVER.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OR CONSTITUTES A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT BLACK, THAT'S IT? NO BLACKS AND WHITE.

IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE A WIN.

NO, YOU'RE JUST, I UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, ELECTIONS ELECTION DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE WANTING TO SHOW THAT YOU'VE PUT ENOUGH BLACKS IN A DISTRICT THAT THEY HAVE A OVERWHELMING CHANCE TO WIN.

I THINK THE MIKE, CORRECT.

MAY I THINK

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IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO ELECT A CANDIDATE OF THEIR CHOICE.

OKAY.

I, AND I GUESS I'M GETTING BACK AGAIN.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE THE DISTRICT GATE.

UM, AND SO THE LINE IS 50%, BEST, 50% VOTING AGE, UH, BLACK.

YES.

NORMALLY THE STANDARD WAS SET IN THE JINGLES VERSUS THORNBURG BIRD CASE.

BACK IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES, YOUR MINORITY POPULATION POPULATION NEEDS TO BE NUMEROUS ENOUGH.

IT'S SUFFICIENTLY COMPACT ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A DISTRICT USING TRADITIONAL REDISTRICTING CRITERIA THAT HAS A VOTING AGE POPULATION OF 50% PLUS ONE.

YEAH, THAT'S THE TECHNICAL DEFINITION OF IT OVER THE YEARS, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT, PARTICULARLY WITH SECTION FIVE PRECLEARANCE THAT WE USED TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH IS THEY WERE LOOKING AT VIABILITY.

VIABILITY MEANS THE ABILITY TO ELECT THE CANDIDATE OF THEIR CHOICE, DEPENDING ON THE HISTORICAL TURNOUT OF MINORITY VOTERS AT ELECTION TIME, DETERMINE WHETHER THE 52% WAS VIABLE.

IF THEY HAD THIS HISTORY OF HIGH TURNOUT FROM MINORITIES, IF THEY HAD A HISTORY OF VERY LOW TURNOUT, THAT NUMBER COULD BE A 56 OR 57 TO ACCOMMODATE THE LOW PARTICIPATION IN THE ELECTIONS.

SO IT'S KIND OF A FLUID NUMBER.

TECHNICALLY IT'S THE ONE I JUST GAVE TO YOU AT THE THORN BOOK VERSUS JINGLES 50 PLUS ONE, BUT THE VIABILITY, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT ON A PER ENTITY BASIS AND KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF, OF MUNICIPALITIES SHOULD WITH LET THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THAT MUNICIPALITY.

AND SO RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE CENSUS NUMBERS OF 2020, OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY DOESN'T NECESSARILY REFLECT THE NUMBERS IN THE ENTIRE PACKAGE.

OKAY.

SO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WANT TO LEARN WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS.

YES.

I AM AGREEING THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OR WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE RIGHT NOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE CAN'T MEET THE LEGALITY OF THAT DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC SHOW? WHAT HAPPENS IF WE CAN'T MEET THE, THE, THE LEGALITY NUMBERS OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE AREA, THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT.

UM, AND I THINK MAYBE YOU NOTICED, I DIDN'T ASK HIM A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS THE STATE COULD DO TO THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE.

NO, NO, I'M NOT.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT REPERCUSSIONS.

WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS WE ALL AGREE THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, UM, ARE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT PERCENTAGES ARE, BUT WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS A MAJORITY OF BLACK VOTERS OR BLACK POPULATION.

SAM IS CLOSE.

OKAY.

ON THE PARENTS IS ABOUT 50, 50.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT YOUR NUMBERS ARE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

BUT I'M LOOKING AT AS A WHOLE, I'M NOT TRYING TO SPECIFIC DATA ON NUMBERS, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WE HAVE A LEGAL GUIDELINE THAT WE HAVE TO BE WITH PLUS OR MINUS FIVE, GIVE OR TAKE.

WE HAVE TO BE NON SPLIT OF PRECINCTS.

WE HAVE TO, UH, WHATEVER THE OTHER GUIDELINES ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT YES, THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE WHAT YOU SAY, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THAT REFLECT IN THE REDISTRICTING.

IF WE CAN'T MAKE THAT REFLECT IN THE RE-DISTRICTING AMONG OURSELVES, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? YOU GOT TO MAKE THE BEST.

YOU DO THE BEST THAT YOU CAN GIVEN THE NUMBERS AND THE GEOGRAPHY THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH.

SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T DO IT.

I HAVE JURISDICTIONS NOW THAT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN TRENDING LOWER ON MINORITY POPULATION OVER THE YEARS, AND WE CAN'T MAINTAIN THE MAJORITY, UH, MINORITY POPULATIONS IN SOME OF THOSE TRADITIONAL DISTRICTS.

SO THEY'VE BECOME NOW INFLUENCE DISTRICTS ARE SWING DISTRICTS.

IT'S JUST A, OF THE NUMBERS AND THE GEOGRAPHY THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH.

WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THOUGH, IS DELIBERATELY ADOPT THE PLAN THAT SUPPRESSES OR MINIMIZES OR REDUCES MINORITY POPULATION, BUT TO BUILD IT UP EARLY, AGREE WITH THAT.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT TO BUILD IT UP, YOU TRY TO DO THE BEST JOB THAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

NOW HERE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH WHOLE PRECINCT.

MY INITIAL PLAN WITH Y'ALL WITH A ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN ONE WAS TO TRY TO BUILD THAT UP, BUT I WAS SPLITTING PRECINCTS IN ORDER TO MORE FINE TUNE THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES FOR EIGHT.

AND SO MY NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY HIGHER UNDER IP ONE THAN THEY WOULD BE UNDER HERE, BUT IT FAIRLY CLOSE.

I HAVE YET TO FIND A CONFIGURATION THOUGH, THAT WOULD PUT US OVER INTO A 54 55 PERCENTILE ON THE OVERALL BLACK POPULATION

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THAT WOULD GIVE US A 50, 51% BLACK VOTING AGE POPULATION.

I HAVEN'T FOUND THAT COMBINATION THAT STILL BALANCES THE OUT ON YOUR OVERALL POPULATION YOU'RE PLUS OR MINUS 5%.

THAT'S THE ISSUE I'M RUNNING INTO.

AND PART OF THAT, IF NOT MOST, ALL OF THAT IS BECAUSE FAST MAJORITY BLACK POPULATIONS TO THE NORTH, THE VAST MAJORITY WHITE POPULATION TO THE SOUTH.

AND YOU ONLY HAVE A NARROW SLIVER ACROSS THE DISTRICT, WHICH DISTRICT GATE STRADDLES THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN 10 AND EIGHT.

THOSE ARE IN FIVE TO SOME DEGREE.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT OR THREE THAT ARE TAKE IN SOME OF THAT TRANSITION ZONE.

THAT'S WHY IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO SHIFT WHITE OUT, PICK UP BLACK AND NOT BLOW UP YOUR DEVIATION NUMBER BECAUSE YOU WILL RUN INTO AN ISSUE IF YOU CREATE ONE AND YOU D YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING YOUR OTHER TRADITIONAL TRADITIONAL CRITERIA THAT WILL OPEN YOU UP TO A RACIAL GERRYMANDER.

THAT'S FINE.

AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON IT, CORRECT.

UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET, UM, VERBIAGE OR SUPPORT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT I'M TRYING TO GET, AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO SAY WE HAD DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE THROWING EVERYTHING AT IT RIGHT NOW TO TRY AND DO THIS.

I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE THROWING EVERYTHING AT IT NOW TO CREATE THIS DISTRICT.

AND AGAIN, IF IT'S A DISEASE, IT'S JUST A STARTING POINT AND I'M JUST TRYING TO, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE A CALL ON A MAP AND I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST LIKED SOME MORE INPUT.

WHAT? YEAH.

OH, SHAWNA, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT OR I'M SORRY, MANIPULATION BY CREATE ANOTHER MINORITY OF THE DORIAN DISTRICT ONE DASH 8, 1 8.

UM, IT'S NOT TOUCHING SIX AND SEE IT IT'S WELL WITHIN THE BLUE RIGHT NOW.

WELL, THAT'S ONE, THAT'S PROBABLY DISTRICT.

THAT'S PROBABLY PLAYING ONE.

THIS IS ONE A Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT MAP YET BECAUSE I BEEN WORKING ON THAT ONE FOR UP UNTIL THE TIME I CAME HERE, I THINK WHAT WE HAD PLAY, BUT 1 71 DAS, THAT MEANS, UM, THAT PUTS THAT THERE.

THEY WE'RE GOING AFTER.

WE'LL LOOK AT THIS ISSUE RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS AN INFINITE POINT.

THAT'S NOT A CONTIGUOUS.

UH, SO THAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO PROBABLY TO MAKE THIS ILLEGAL PLAN WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THAT PUTS DEVIATION AT A TWO THAT'S GOOD.

AND A MINUS TWO AND A MINUS THREE.

LET'S SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE OUT OF 50% 0.2 RIGHT NOW ON TOTAL POPULATION ON EIGHT.

LET'S SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON VOTING AGE POPULATION VOTING AGE POPULATION IS THAT'S THE TOTAL 1840 6.98 47%.

BUT IT'S THE HIGHEST YOU'VE GOTTEN SO FAR.

ALL RIGHT.

LET ME SEE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS ANY ISSUES WITH THE PLAN HERE REAL QUICK.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD ON INTEGRITY.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ON ALL RIGHT.

DEVIATION, SEVEN HOURS A LITTLE OVER SEVEN HAS GOT TO PICK UP FROM SOMEBODY.

UH, BUT YOU COULD ALSO SWAP OFF SOMEWHERE UP HERE BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN.

UM, WHERE THAT WOULD BE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD THINK MR. COLE

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WOULD PROBABLY BE FOR A PRECINCT CLOSER TO HIM.

ALL RIGHT.

AT, WELL, NO ONE BACK THERE, BUT THE ONE BELOW IT ALL AND THEN THE ONE WOULD BE WELL.

OKAY.

WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE? I ASKED TO BE GREEN UP OR DENISE BLUE.

NOPE.

NO, IT HAS TO BE, I'M SORRY.

IT HAS TO BE BLUE.

IT HAS TO BE WHERE DID THIS LIVE STUFF WHERE LORI LIVE? YEAH.

THAT'S THAT HE HAS TO GO BACK.

GOT IT.

TAKE ONE 90 OUT.

I GOT TO BUILD A PATHWAY THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

UH, OH, UH, OH, THAT WHAT YOU'RE RUNNING INTO IS WHAT I WAS RUNNING INTO.

I CAN GET THE NUMBERS UP, BUT THEN I CAN'T BALANCE BALANCE OUT THE, THE, UM, AREAS THAT ARE OUT, OUT OF, UH, OUT OF WHACK.

SO IT BRINGS ME BACK UP INTO THE UPPER FORTIES, THE ONE THAT HE NEEDED TO BUILD BACK INTO EIGHT.

YUP.

YUP.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS RUNNING INTO NOW.

THE OTHER TWO THAT WE MADE OR THOSE LOOK OKAY.

EXCEPT FOR JUST BALANCING, UH, LAMONT'S DISTRICT A LITTLE BIT, AND I MAY BE ABLE TO DO THAT BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN, BUT, UH, HEY, GOT ATE UP TO 50%, WHICH IS GOOD.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE I WAS, WHAT IP ONE WAS AROUND 50, BUT THIS IS USING HOPE.

ARE YOU SAYING SO NOT SPLIT.

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS SOMETIMES.

THAT'S WHY I USUALLY DON'T LIKE TO GO MORE THAN ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF PEOPLE KIND OF LOSE INTEREST UNLESS I GET THEM REALLY UPSET ABOUT SOMETHING.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE WHAT, LET ME SEE IF I GET SEVEN BOUNDS.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET ONE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

MAYBE AND I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO BE THE CLOSEST WE CAN GET RIGHT HERE.

AND THAT'S REALLY PRETTY CLOSE.

YEAH.

AND I'M DONE.

I'M DONE.

I MEAN, AS LONG AS THEY'RE UNDER A 6% OF THEM, YOU SHOULD BE GOOD.

THE ONLY TIME THAT ABSOLUTE PLUS AND MINUS 5% IS ON YOUR STATEWIDE STUFF LIKE CONGRESSIONAL AND SENATE AND ALL THAT.

THOSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE WHOLE STATE TO WORK WITH COURT HAS SAID, PLUS, OR MINUS 5.0, 0%, PLUS A MINUS, NOT FRACTIONS UP LOCAL STUFF.

THERE'S ACTUALLY NO JURISDICTION THAT SPECIFIES.

IF WE JUST USE THE STATEMENT AS OUR GUIDE, WE CALL IT SAFE.

HARBOR IS GOOD FOR THE STATE.

GOOD FOR THE LOCAL.

OH, YOU DESERVE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.

YEAH.

PRESS HAS BEEN THROUGH THIS STUFF.

IT'S OLD HAT FOR PRESS.

HE JUST BACK WHEN HE STARTED, HE DIDN'T HAVE SOFTWARE TO DO ALL THIS STUFF YET.

PENCIL ON A CALCULATOR MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A CALCULATOR.

[01:25:05]

YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE ATTENTION SPANS HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN DWINDLING A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMAN MOKE SAID, AS FAR AS A FAIR REPRESENTATION, UM, ACCOMPLISHING THE AIMS OF HAVING A SIX, SIX MINORITY, UM, DISTRICT REPRESENTING THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF WHAT OUR PARISH CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE OF THE MAPS THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER AND OF THE ONES THAT WE HAVE VERY CAREFULLY COMPRISED TO NOT SPLIT PRECINCTS.

HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT? OR ARE WE VERY CLOSE TO THAT FOR THAT SPLITTING PRECINCTS? THIS IS A CLOSE AS YOU'VE GOT THIS HERE.

YEAH.

AND COMING INTO IT, MY VERY FIRST WORKSHOP WITH YOU ALL, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A FAIR REPRESENTATION AND IN YOUR DISTRICTS, AND THAT MAY MEAN THAT ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE REALLY A, A TOSS UP WHERE THE VOTERS DECIDE, WHO GETS TO REPRESENT THAT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT AFFECTS THE RACIAL MAKEUP OF THE COUNCIL.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND OFTENTIMES, AND I KNOW THAT LEGALLY SPEAKING, UM, BLACK IS A PROTECTED CLASS, BUT OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU TAKE A STEP BACK AND YOU LOOK UP, LOOK AT THE REPUBLICAN DEMOCRAT MAKEUP OF SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS THAT THAT'S, IT, THERE ARE DISTRICTS LIKE MINE THAT WOULD SWING WILDLY, UM, ALONG PARTY RATHER THAN RACE.

UM, I FIND THAT FASCINATING AS WELL.

YEAH.

MOSTLY COMES IN ON YOUR STATE LEVEL STUFF.

I RARELY EVER GET IN THAT IN TAT THE LOCAL STUFF, BUT THE DATA IS AVAILABLE.

WE'LL USUALLY HAVE ENOUGH OF A BATTLE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK WITH JUST THE CENSUS NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING TO FIT.

SO DID WE HAVE THIS MAP SAVED OR, YEAH, LET ME GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

I'M GOING TO SEND OUT ONE A, WHICH IS WHAT WE STARTED WITH.

I'M GOING TO NAME THIS ONE HERE, WHICH WILL BE A VARIATION OF ONE A, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS ONE'S COMING OFF OF.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, WE STARTED WITH PLAN ONE AND HAD A VARIATION OF HIT.

SO I NEED TO ASSIGN SOME NUMBERS.

I'M GONNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, I CAN DO THIS WHERE WE CAN KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF THE PARENT PLAN AND THE, UH, DEVIATIONS KINDA LIKE WE DID WITH THREE, THREE, WE STARTED WITH THREE, AND THEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF VARIATIONS.

I'M GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR ALONG THESE LINES.

SO GIVE ME A LITTLE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

I'LL SEND IT OUT TO Y'ALL SO Y'ALL CAN STUDY IT.

AND THIS WILL PROBABLY PUT YOU IN A BETTER POSITION TO KIND OF START NARROWING THINGS DOWN ON WEDNESDAY.

YES, SIR.

UH, TO WHAT YOU CAN, BUT YOU CAN'T DO.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GREAT IF EVERYBODY CAN COME TO A GENERAL AGREEMENT ON A PLAN, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND IF YOU DON'T, WHICH CASE IS UP TO THE COUNCIL.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY FELLOW.

SURE.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE MS. DENISE? YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'LL HAVE ANY ON YOUR LAND? I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT'S THAT? OKAY.

UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS SEND OUT THE MAPS.

I'LL GO NOW.

I'M SORRY, BUT I'M GOING TO DO, SEND OUT THE MAPS WHEN WE WRAP UP TODAY, WHERE WE LEFT OFF AND THEN, UH, I'LL PUT OUT A LITTLE MEMO.

SO Y'ALL KNOW WHICH MAP CORRESPONDS TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY.

OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON YOU? THREE? YEAH.

UH, CAN YOU PUT THE STREETS ON? I THINK THERE WAS SOME SWAPPING EARLIER WHEN I WAS DISTRACTED.

IT'S OKAY.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER PERSON THAT YOU KNEW THAT THIS IS STRICTLY THE MAJORITY OF THAT OR A BANG UP TO PERKINS.

LAURIE, DID I TAKE SOME THINGS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER? I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT BURBANK, WE'RE AT A LITTLE BALANCE RIGHT HERE, BUT I THINK I WAS BETWEEN AND 12.

OKAY.

YOU DROPPED THAT BRIEF 2303.

THAT WAS REALLY NO PLACE TO GO WHEN I GIVE MORE IN HERE.

OH, WE'RE JUST GO OVER 11.

I MISSED IT.

BUT IF SHE'S WITHIN A PLUS OR MINUS FIVE WE'RE I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.

I'M SORRY.

PROBABLY BEFORE I FORGET, I HAVE A PRINTED MAP, A PLAN ONE AND ONE A RIGHT HERE.

SO IF Y'ALL WANT TO SEE IT A LARGER PRINTED BOUND, THEN WE'LL DO THAT.

I'LL ALSO, WE'LL SEND IT THE SHAPE FILES OF ALL OF THESE OVER TO GIS.

SO

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IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC THING THAT YOU NEED A MAP ON, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO RESPOND QUICKER THAN I CAN.

ALL RIGHT.

NO, I'M JUST OBSERVING.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

IF YOU CAN MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER OF TRYING TO GET STICKERS, RIGHT? I BOUGHT A WHOLE FIVE.

I THINK HE HAS ONE UP ON ME.

I THINK HE STARTED WITH THE 80 CYCLE.

I STARTED IN THE 90 CYCLE.

UH THAT'S WHY SOME OF US HAVE GRAY HAIR.

OKAY.

YOU REALLY DO RIGHT HERE.

PERFECT.

OH, I MEAN NOTHING.

THAT'S OH YEAH.

I GAINED OVERALL POPULATION.

YEAH.

THEY COULD GO AND PICK UP.

STAND ON.

MARIA TO ME SEEMS LIKE A HUGE YOU'VE PROBABLY HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING HAS THROWN UP AT LSU, THE MOST OTHER SUBDIVISION GOING OUT OR THE, UH, ISLAND AND, AND OUT TO THE EAST.

OH, OH, OH, OH NO.

AT THREE DASH FIVE THROWS ME OFF.

LIKE IT'S NOT A LOT OF POPULATION.

EVERY LET'S SEE WHAT IT WOULD.

THE POPULATION OF 6,600 PEOPLE.

OH, MAYBE 3,800 WHITE, 1,505 BURBANK.

YES.

WE JUST THOUGHT WHAT'S THAT? THAT WAS THE BRAND ABOUT, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT ONE.

THAT WAS GOOD.

THAT PUTS YOU AT PLUS 20% DEVIATION MAYBE.

OH, EVERYBODY'S EVERYBODY.

WE ALL SPLIT BAKER HAD LARGE DISTRICT 10 WOULD BE IN LARGE.

I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE PARISH THAT HAS SINGLE MEMBER SEATS.

AND THEN THEY HAVE BREE REGIONAL SEAT WHERE THEIR PARENTS ARE DIVIDED INTO THREE.

SO THEY KIND OF RUN SEMI AT LARGE, BUT THEY ACTUALLY KIND OF RUN AT LARGE, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL QUALIFICATION FOR ONE OF THOSE THREE REGIONAL SEATS.

CORRECT ME.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT HE DIDN'T.

IT WAS AT YES, BECAUSE THAT'D BE ELECTED BY DISTRICT IF THEY'RE ELECTED AT LARGE OR NOT.

UH, BUT IF YOU ELECT BY DISTRICT, NO MATTER WHAT THAT CONFIGURATION IS, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DISTRICT DRAWN FOR IT.

AND SO THAT DISTRICT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN BALANCE WITHIN THOSE TWO.

IT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THE THREE.

IT'S BE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

YOU'D HAVE YOU FOUR SINGLE MEMBER OF SINGLE MEMBER AND THEN TO BMI AT LARGE, BUT YOU'D HAVE A PLAN

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FOR THEM AND A PLAN FOR THEM WHEN YOU RIGHT.

THE COMPONENTS TWO COMPONENTS FOR AN OVERALL PLAN.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY WHOLE WORLD.

YOU JUST DON'T LIKE THE SHAPE OF THAT PRECINCT.

HUH? PERFECT BREATHING.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

I DIDN'T KNOW.

I HAD MY NEW ADDRESS.

OKAY.

OH ARE YOU? OH, OH, OH, OH, OH, I'M WRONG.

YOU TOOK, YOU TOOK, YOU TOOK, YOU TOOK GERALD OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL PUT THESE TOGETHER.

Y'ALL CAN STUDY THEM.

Y'ALL HAVE YOUR HOMEWORK AND THEN WE'LL GET TOGETHER.

WE'LL REGROUP WEDNESDAY, ONE TO THREE SAME PLACE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THOUGHT THIS WAS PRODUCTIVE.

YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.

AND OF COURSE, ANYTIME Y'ALL WANT TO PLAY WITH US MORE.

THE MAPTITUDE ONLINE IS IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT TO KIND OF GET A HANDLE ON IT.

YEAH.

IT'S KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH ME BECAUSE IT DOES A LOT OF WHAT MY DESKTOP DESK, BUT, UH, I WORK WITH THIS ALL THE TIME.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT COMING IN AND COLD, BUT IT'S ALSO A SAFE WAY TO DO IT IN THE COMFORT OF YOUR OWN HOME.