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STARTED, I'M READY TO ROLL.[Redistricting Map Meeting]
YEAH, WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED.UH, GOOD SESSION LAST TIME, BUT WE, UH, MADE SOME GOOD PROGRESS, HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS, UH, SOME EXPLORATION OF SOME VARIOUS PLANS WE HAD, UH, STARTED WITH PLAN ONE, WHICH USED WHOLE PRECINCT.
SO WE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT.
UH, RE-DESIGNATED THAT PLAN IS FOR KIND OF GET US BACK IN SEQUENCE.
AS WE MODIFIED IT AT THE WORKSHOP.
THE OTHER ONE THAT WE ALSO LOOKED AT WAS PLAN ONE A, WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE HEAVILY WEIGHTED ON A, UM, ON THE MAJORITY MINORITY PERCENTAGES IN DISTRICT EIGHT, ONE A AS MODIFIED, UH, IS PLANNED FIVE, WHICH YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT PLAN FOUR LOOKED LIKE, JUST A, KIND OF A BASIC OVERVIEW OF WHAT PLAN FOUR IS.
AND THEN PLAN FIVE WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'VE HAD TO MAKE CONSIDERABLE CHANGES TO THE DISTRICTS IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET THE MINORITY NUMBERS UP IN DISTRICT EIGHT, WHICH IS IN BLUE IN THIS PARTICULAR MAP, UH, IT, UH, KINDA CHANGE THINGS AROUND IN A DISTRICT'S A SIX AND FOR A LITTLE BIT OF NINE AND 11, IT HAD A RIPPLE EFFECT ON THERE.
AND EVEN THEN WE REALLY WEREN'T ABLE TO GET IT MUCH OVER A 50% THRESHOLD ON A BLACK POPULATION FOR TOTAL POPULATION VOTING AGE POPULATION WAS STILL IN THE UPPER FORTIES.
UH, I HAD A LITTLE CONCERN WITH THE WAY THAT WE HAD TO REALLY GO OUTSIDE THE NORMAL CHANGE OF BOUNDARIES, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU NEED TO DON'T GO ANY FARTHER THAN THAT.
UM, BECAUSE WE WERE MOSTLY MAKING THESE CHANGES BASED ON HOW IT AFFECTED OUR RACIAL PERCENTAGES IN THOSE DISTRICTS AND, UH, SUPREME COURT OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN FAIRLY SPECIFIC ON THAT INTERPRETATION OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.
SO I DON'T, I DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO IT, UH, INTO THAT PACHA WEEDS WITH THAT.
SO I TOOK A LOOK AT THE MODIFICATIONS THAT Y'ALL LOOK THAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO WITH PLAN ONE, WHICH WAS IN FOUR AND THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, BUT ONE A, WHICH IS NOW FIVE.
AND I CAME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF A BLEND BETWEEN THE TWO, WHICH WAS PLAN SIX AND PLAN SIX, IF Y'ALL WANT IS SOMETHING WE CAN START WITH, OR WE CAN START WITH ANY OF THE OTHER VERSIONS THAT YOU WANTED TO THE SIX, THE APPROACH ON IT WAS TO TRY TO TRY TO BRING THE MINORITY PERCENTAGES IN DISTRICT EIGHT, WHICH IS THE MOST SUITABLE CANDIDATE FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY TRENDING MORE BLACK POPULATIONS SINCE 2010 TO TRY TO GET IT TO WHERE IT HAD A MINORITY POPULATION THAT WAS PRETTY REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THE PARISH RATIO IS ON YOUR MINORITY PERCENTAGES.
YOUR PASS RUNS ABOUT 45% FOR, FOR BLACK POPULATION.
SO IT'S, IT'S IN PROPORTION TO THAT RATIO WITH THE PARISH.
IT DOESN'T, UH, GO WAY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES WITH REGARDS TO RADICAL MODIFICATIONS OF YOUR CURRENT DISTRICTS.
UH, IT PRESERVES THE CORE DISTRICTS, UH, OF YOUR CURRENT PLAN TO A PRETTY GOOD EXTENT, BUT ALSO KIND OF GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPETITIVENESS TO AN ADDITIONAL DISTRICT WHERE, UH, THE CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THAT WEATHER, WHATEVER ETHNICITY OR RACE THEY ARE, IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY COMPETITIVE DISTRICT WITH REGARDS TO THAT.
BUT LET THE VOTERS DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO HANDLE THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT, HOW THEY DECIDE IS IT GOING TO DECIDE WHAT YOUR OVERALL COMPOSITION WILL BE ON THE COUNCIL? JUST LIKE IT WOULD BE ANY OTHER TIME.
IT'S JUST THAT THIS BRINGS THE NUMBERS UP A LITTLE BIT MORE, ACTUALLY A FAIRLY BIT MORE, BUT OUT RID OF REALLY VISCERAL RATING, YOUR CORE DISTRICTS LIKE PLANNED FIVE DEAD.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KIND OF PUT OUT TO Y'ALL BECAUSE AS YOU DISCUSS THESE THINGS, IT GIVES ME KIND OF IDEAS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT AND EXPLORE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ONLY ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, BUT ALSO BEING A FAIR REPRESENTATIVE LAND FOR YOUR, UH, FOR YOUR PARISH.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO ANY DISCUSSIONS, MODIFICATIONS PLANS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO SEE MORE DETAIL, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WORKS.
SO I'M HERE AT YOUR BECK AND CALL.
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I GO IN, I CAN GET MORE DETAILED, GOT A COMMENT ABOUT SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS.YOU SAID THAT THE PARIS IS ABOUT 45%.
AND SECONDLY, YOU SAID THAT IN DISTRICT EIGHT, YOU WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT REFLECTIVE OF THE PARIS DEMOGRAPHICS IN THAT BODY FIVE NUMBER THAT YOU USED.
BUT IN MY MIND THAT THE, ALL THE MAPS, ALL THE DISTRICTS SHOULD BE 47% REPRESENTATIVE, NOT JUST MAKING ONE DISTRICT FLIGHT ITSELF, 7% REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PARISH.
I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT SHOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE BLACK REPRESENTATION THROUGHOUT THE PARISH BY DISTRICT.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT WILL HAPPEN.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.
WHAT'D YOU MEAN, DID WE HAVE FOUR TO 7% REPRESENTATION, PARISH WIDE EXACT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY LIVE, RIGHT? IT DEPENDS ON THE GEOGRAPHY DISTRIBUTION OF THAT, OF THAT DISTRIBUTION.
YOU DON'T HAVE 47% BLACK POPULATION LIVE IN SOUTH FLORIDA, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
YOU MISUNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.
PLEASE, YOU ATTRIBUTED YOUR FORTY-FIVE PERCENT NUMBER TO ONE DISTRICT SAYING THAT YOU WAS TRYING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARIS BLACK POPULATION.
MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS ALL OF THE MAPS.
NOT EACH DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE FOUR TO SEVEN BLACK.
I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE REPRESENTATION SHOULD BE 47%.
THAT'S WHAT I STARTED WITH WITH THE VERY FIRST PLAN THAT WE HAD WITH LESS TO DO PLANS.
UH, I DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT I'M HERE FOR Y'ALL THEY'LL, UH, THEY'LL SERVE IT.
SO JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.
I MEAN, I WANT TO SEE MORE MINORITY, MAJORITY REPRESENTATION, BLACK, THE DEMOGRAPHICS SHOW IN THE CENSUS.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO PULL UP YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WAY.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF MY RECOLLECTION.
WE'RE GOING TO PULL UP WHAT YOUR 2020S ARE AND WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT EIGHT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT, AND EVERYBODY AGREES THAT MORE TO A MINORITY REPRESENTATION IS IN ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE MINORITY MAJORITY DISTRICT.
I THINK DISTRICT ONE, BECAUSE ALL THE BLACK POPULATION, A MAJORITY OF BLACK POPULATION ISN'T ENOUGH IS IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU GOT MORE BLACK POPULATION, THE PROOF POOR FROM, I WOULD CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THESE ARE YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS RIGHT HERE.
UH, THIS IS YOUR TOTAL DEMOGRAPHIC.
SO YOU LOOK AT THAT BOTTOM LINE, YOUR TOTAL POPULATION IS ON BLACK POPULATION.
USING THE G'DAY DOJ STANDARD IS 45.7%.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CENSUS, THAT IS WHAT YOUR POPULATION IS.
YOUR 2020 FOR EAST BATON ROUGE.
AND YOU'RE 18 PLUS IS 43, 5% BLACK POPULATION THAT IS 2020 POPULATION OR EAST BATON ROUGE.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE BASE THE, UH, WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THIS IS OFF THE PL 94,171 FILE, WHICH IS OFFICIAL REDISTRICTING FILE THAT WE HAVE TO USE REDISTRICTING BY STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.
THIS IS A TOTAL OF ALL OF YOUR, UH, PERCENTAGES, UH, YOUR PERCENTAGES CALCULATE ABOUT A TOTAL BLACK AGAINST THE TOTAL, UH, POPULATION OF THE PARISH, 45.7%.
WHEN I WAS USING, UH, ABOUT THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CENSUS DATA, IT SAYS 47 AND 43.
SO I GUESS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHERE YOUR NUMBERS COMING FROM RELATIVE TO THE NUMBERS WE WERE SAYING, I SEE WHAT YOU HAVE THERE, BUT WHERE DOES THAT INFORMATION ACTUALLY COME FROM VERSUS WHAT THE CENSUS SENT US BLACK DAY, WHERE THIS IS COMING TRAUMAS, PL 94, 1 71 OFFICIAL CENSUS FILE RELEASED ON AUGUST 12TH, 2021.
THAT IS THE OFFICIAL FILE THAT WE HAVE TO USE.
AND THIS IS YOUR WITH YOU, WE CAN PULL IT UP AND SEE THE ACTUAL DATA.
YES, THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON IN THE, UH, IN THE SOFTWARE.
AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT IT IS DOWN TO THE BLOCK LEVEL, THEN THAT IS WHAT THE DATA IS ALL BASED ON RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS DOWN TO THE BLOCK LEVEL.
SINCE THIS BLOCK LEVEL GIVES YOU ALL OF THE ASSIGNMENTS BY THE, UH, BY, UH, PRECINCT VTD, AND THEN ALL OF THE RACIAL, UH, BREAKOUTS ALL THE WAY ACROSS, THERE WAS 270 SOMETHING DIFFERENT BREAKOUTS ON HERE, 20, 20 CENSUS, LIKE ANY JOE CITIZEN WOULD DO.
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PARISH IS, LET ME SEE IF I GOT THE COUNTY HERE OR I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FROM THE, YOUR POWERPOINT PROTOTYPE FROM THE ACTUAL SOURCE ITSELF, LIKE CENSUS.GOV.WHY AM I HOOKED UP WHEN I WANT TO SEE IF I MISSED IT? I MIGHT BE ON MY PHONE NOW I'M ON THE, THAT ONE.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET TO THAT.
AND WHAT YOU WANT US APPEAL? 94, 1 71 FORM, NOT THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY.
UH, IF Y'ALL, I MEAN, FROM UNITY TO SERVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACS, YOUR NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ACS NUMBERS.
ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE P L NUMBERS? YEAH.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR, UH, THE QUICK FACTS RIGHT HERE.
CAUSE THIS MIGHT TELL US RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY NUMBERS.
AND SINCE THIS NUMBERS, SINCE THE NUMBERS, THE ACTUAL COUNT AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY IS BASED ON AN ESTIMATE THAT ROLLS IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SOURCES.
AND THEY ESTIMATE WHAT THE POPULATION IS SINCE THIS NUMBER IS ACTUAL RESPONDENTS TO THE CENSUS.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE GENERALLY GOING TO BE LOWER THAN YOUR TOTAL POPULATION, BECAUSE YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RESPONSE RATE.
LOUISIANA HAD AN AVERAGE RATE OF 65.
I MEAN, 65 OUT EVERY 100 HOUSEHOLDS ACTUALLY RESPONDED TO THE CENSUS.
UH, I CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT HE'S BATON ROUGE IS, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PROBABLY MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THAT THOUGH.
THE BEST RESPONSE RATE WAS IN ST.
CHARLES PARISH IN THERE AROUND 79%.
BUT EVEN THEN THERE WAS 79 OUT OF A HUNDRED HOUSEHOLDS ARE RESPONDING TO THE CENSUS.
AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY USES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SOURCES IN ORDER TO ARRIVE AT AN ESTIMATED POPULATION.
BUT WE CANNOT USE ESTIMATED POPULATION FOR REDISTRICTING CENSUS BUREAU WANTED TO DO THAT PRIOR TO THE 2010 CENSUS.
AND IT WAS RULED THAT THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES AN ACTUAL NUMERATION, WHICH IS AN ACTUAL CENSUS COUNT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO, BECAUSE I WORK WITH THESE TWO DATA SETS ALL THE TIME, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE VERY CLOSE.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT CLOSE ACTUALLY AT THEY'RE NOT AS CLOSE AS THEY NORMALLY ARE, BECAUSE I THINK THE 2020 CENSUS WAS ACTUALLY MORE UNDER COUNTED THAN PREVIOUS CENSUSES WAR.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A GAP, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE'RE SEEING BETWEEN THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND THE NUMBERS THAT I HAVE TO WORK WITH.
SO IF IT'S ANYTHING LIKE THIS, YOU'LL SEE RIGHT HERE, IT'S POPULATION ESTIMATES.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE, THE BREAKOUT COMES IN TO, UH, IT'S SHOWING 47.2, UH, BLACK POPULATION, BUT THAT'S THE ESTIMATED POPULATION.
THE NUMBERS I'M SHOWING YOU ACTUALLY THE PL ACTUAL RESPONDENTS TO THE CENSUS OF WHAT THOSE ARE.
PUBLIC LAW, 94, 1 71 IS BASS PASSED IN THE SEVENTIES, WHICH DIRECTED THE CENSUS BUREAU TO CREATE THIS DATASET AS A VERY FIRST DATA SET, UH, AFTER THE CENSUS WAS SIGNED OFF ON BY THE PRESIDENT.
SO THE REAPPORTIONMENT IT STARTED.
I HAD, UH, FROM THE NUMBERS, I HAD THE WHITE POPULATION OF 43.
WHAT IS YOUR, UH, THE CENSUS NUMBERS SAY, SEE, WHY WAS A WHITE ALONE? UH, YOUR ESTIMATE IS 47.6.
BLACK WAS 42 POINT, I MEAN 47.2.
SO IT'S ALMOST 50 50 BASED ON THE ACTUAL CENSUS.
UM, I'M SHOWING THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAD A 42.9% WHITE AND 45.7% BLACK.
SO YOUR ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON YOUR ACTUAL CENSUS ESTIMATES THEY'RE EQUAL, BUT HERE THEY'RE NOT, BUT EVEN, UH, AM I LOOKING AT 40TH 5.7%? IS THAT THE NUMBER YOU USING? YES.
SO YOU WOULDN'T ROUND THAT TO FOUR TO SIX? I GENERALLY WOULD, BUT I USUALLY PUSH IT TO ONE DECIMAL POINT, BUT IT'S NO REAL PARTICULAR REQUIREMENT.
BUT WHEN I WORKED UP PLAN SIX, UH, PLAN SIX, I BROUGHT IT UP TO 46.15.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT YOU CAN MAKE IN THESE CONFIGURATIONS.
SO THIS IS THE SIX WHERE YOU LOOKED AT EIGHT AND TRYING TO INCREASE THE MINORITY AND MAJORITY REPRESENTATION THERE.
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MAN ON THAT SO I CAN SEE WHAT YOU DID.AND DID YOU SEND THIS TO US? YES.
I ALSO HAVE HER ART COPY OF A PLAN SIX RIGHT HERE, BUT I SENT TO Y'ALL A PLANNED FOR FIVE AND THEN LATER A SEPARATE TRANSMISSION FOR SIX WITH THE MEMO, FOR BOTH OF THEM TRANSMITTAL MEMO, I'M GOING TO PUT SOME STREETS ON SO YOU CAN SEE THAT AS WELL.
I CAN TAKE THE STREETS OFF IF IT'S BUTTERING THE MAP UP.
AND AS WE DID LAST TIME, THIS IS VERY INFORMAL.
IF YOU NEED TO GO UP TO THE SIDE SCREEN SO YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER FROM A DISTANCE, PLEASE DO SO BECAUSE, UH, I KNOW I HAVE A HARD TIME READING IT FROM, FROM HERE TO THERE.
SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE YOU HAVING THAT SAME DIFFICULT.
I KNOW THIS SCREEN'S BIGGER, BUT, UH, FEEL FREE TO GET UP AND MOVE ABOUT THE CABIN AS YOU FEEL FIT.
NO, ALL OF THESE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING SINCE OUR LAST MEETING HAVE BEEN USING WHOLE PRECINCT.
AND THE REASON I USE DISTRICT A DISTRICT GATE IS ACTUALLY BEEN TRENDING MORE MINORITY IT'S SPARE OVER A POINTS HIGHER BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020, I THINK.
AND I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, BUT I ALSO, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW MAJORITY OF THE BLACK POPULATION IS IN THE NORTH, THE OTHER DISTRICT DISTRICT ONE PAST THE POTENTIAL AND EASIER TO GRAB BLACK POPULATION.
THAT'S, THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT.
THEN THEN EIGHT, IN MY OPINION, I GUESS I TEND TO WORK MORE WITH THE TRENDS.
WHEN I SEE A TREND, I TRY TO WORK WITH THAT TREND RATHER THAN TRYING TO PUSH AGAINST THE CURRENT, UH, BECAUSE IN 2030, I'M KIND OF ALWAYS LOOKING AHEAD TO THE NEXT CENSUS, 2030, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT? WE MADE ONE NOW AND IT'S NOT TRENDING MORE MINORITY.
THEN WE MAY LOSE THOSE GAINS BETWEEN NOW AND YOUR NEXT, UH, REDISTRICTING AND ELECTION USING THAT NEW PLAN.
I TEND TO DO THAT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT? W WHAT IS THAT 1 55 THAT YOU PUT IN A PRECINCT? IS THAT, UH, PRECINCT 1 55? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES, IT SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? LET ME GET THOSE PRECINCT NUMBERS UP A LITTLE BIT BOLDER HERE.
OH, I CAN READ THEM A LITTLE BETTER.
WHAT PRISTINE IS IT? YEAH, LET ME PUT THE BOUNDARIES ON YOUR PRECINCTS A LITTLE HIGHER NOW, SO WE CAN SEE THEM A LITTLE BETTER.
THAT'S YOUR PRECINCT BOUNDARY RIGHT HERE, BUT WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE PRECINCT? ONE 50.
WHAT'S THE NAME OF IT? NOT THE NUMBER, THE LOCATION.
OH, THAT I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.
I MEAN, I HAVE A MANOR WOOD, UH, ARCHERY.
I DON'T HAVE YOUR SUBDIVISION FILES IN HERE.
THIS IS SHERWOOD FOREST BOULEVARD.
THIS IS COMING, UH, SOUTH OF, UH, YEAH, I GO BY PRECINCT Y'ALL KNOW THE SUBDIVISIONS.
I'M THE WAY I SAW THE RULING BY THE JUDGE.
WELL, IT STILL GOES TO THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO TRY TO USE WHOLE PRECINCTS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.
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YEAH.THOSE WERE THE LAST TWO THAT WE DID, CORRECT? DISTRICT FIVE HERE.
I'M GOING TO SWITCH OVER TO IT.
UM, I CAN PULL UP THE PDF MAPS MULTIPLE, BUT THE SOFTWARE SAYS, NOW I'M GOING TO WORK WITH ONE AT A TIME.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS THE, THE PARENT PLAN WAS ONE A THAT WE STARTED WORKING WITH.
YEAH, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS, I'M GOING TO OVERLAY FOR ON, ON IT RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS WHAT FOUR WAS RIGHT HERE.
AND IF YOU NEED THE, UH, YEAH, FOR THE NIGHT'S PLAN, UH, I LIKED IT.
IT DIDN'T CHANGE A WHOLE LOT, BUT, UM, LET ME, UM, OKAY.
THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE, OH, IF I'M A PUT OUR DISTRICT UP ON HERE, HEY, LET ME GET FOUR WHERE HE CAN READ THE NUMBERS A LITTLE, THE DISTRICT NUMBERS A LITTLE BETTER.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHICS, I'LL HAVE TO SWITCH OVER, BUT THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS WHAT PLAN OR WAS RIGHT HERE.
I'LL TAKE THE STREETS OFF FOR A MOMENT JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A LAYOUT.
I'LL TAKE OFF YOUR CURRENT DISTRICTS FOR THE MOMENT.
THIS IS EIGHT IN BLUE, 19 PINK, KHAKI COLOR IS, UH, SIX AND FOUR IS IN A LIGHT TAN.
AND I'LL PUT THE, UH, I'LL PUT Y'ALL DOTS ON THERE.
SO WE GET A RELATIONSHIP OR WHERE YOU LIVE.
THIS WAS PLANNED ONE MODIFIED AT THE WORKSHOP.
THESE, THIS ONE WAS TAKEN IN COUNCIL SUGGESTIONS.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE THINKING OF WHAT I HAD AND Y'ALL ADDED TO IT.
AND I JUST RENAMED THAT MODIFIED PLAN ONE IS PLANNED FOR, DID YOU CATCH THAT? YOU ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT, IS THIS WHAT WE DID LAST, BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS WHAT HE BROUGHT IN BASED ON NON SPLIT PRECINCTS.
AND THEN WE ADDED BASED ON A RULING WE ADDED AND MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT BASED ON NON SPLIT PRECINCTS.
SO THAT MAP DOESN'T HAVE ANY SPLIT PRECINCTS IN IT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO, SO LET ME JUST SAY IT IS, UM, AND I KNOW WE GOT THESE BORDER WALLS AND THINGS THAT WE WOULD PREFER TO KEEP AND NOT LET GO FOR ME.
OBVIOUSLY I GOT SOME THINGS I LIKE TO KEEP UP MY PRIORITY IS TO INCREASE THE MINORITY REPRESENTATION, TO REFLECT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE PAST.
SO WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM MY DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE TO DO THAT, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.
SO WHETHER THAT'S LOOKING AT EIGHT OR WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT ONE, WHICH IS THE TWO THAT WE THINK ARE MOST LIKELY TO, TO CONVERT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT A PRECINCT, UH, STREET UNIT AND MORE CONCERNED ABOUT MENOTTI REPRESENTATION.
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TH THE, UH, THAT'S WHAT SUPREME COURT HAS FOUND IN SOME OF ITS CASES THAT THE, THE, SOME OF THE CASES THAT CAME BEFORE IT, UH, 2017 WITH THE HARRIS VERSUS COOPER CASE, SOME OF IT SINCE THEN, IS THAT WHEN YOU START MAKING CHANGES BEYOND WHAT'S NECESSARY TO BALANCE YOUR TOTAL POPULATION, AND IT'S GREATLY ALTERING YOUR CORE DISTRICTS.IT'S ONE OF THE CRITERIA AT PRESERVATION, ACCORD DISTRICTS.
THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT? UH, AND IF IT'S BECAUSE OF RACIAL CONCERNS, IT GETS KICKED OUT.
GREEN COURT SAYS THAT'S A VIOLATION, EQUAL PROTECTION.
EVERYBODY IS EQUAL ON THIS ONE.
WHEN IT COMES TO ASSIGNING THEM TO A DISTRICT, THAT'S BEEN THE COURT RULINGS.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH WISCONSIN WISCONSIN'S CASE.
THIS YEAR, THEY CREATED AN ADDITIONAL MINORITY DISTRICT.
WE WENT TO SUPREME COURT, BRING COURT SAID, WHY DID YOU DO THAT? WELL, WAS PROPORTIONATELY.
IT LOOKED LIKE WE NEEDED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ONE.
SO WE CREATED ONE AND THEY FOUND THAT WAS NOT A VALID REASON FOR DOING IT.
IT WAS A VIOLATION EQUAL PROTECTION TO KICK THAT PLAN OUT, BUT BECAUSE WE COULD DO IT, WE DID IT, UH, THAT'S THE CORE OF THE ALABAMA CASE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE HEARD BY THE SUPREME COURT IN OCTOBER, WHICH IS ALMOST A MIRROR OF WHAT WE HAVE.
THEY CREATED THE LEGISLATURE ADOPTED A PLAN THAT WAS CHALLENGED SAYING THE OVERALL POPULATION, STATE WARRANTS, A SECOND, OR AN ADDITIONAL MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT.
AND THEY, THEY HAVE SOME PLANS THAT WOULD DRAW THAT.
SO THEY WANT TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT AND THE ALABAMA CASE.
THAT'S WHAT SUPREME COURT IS GOING TO TAKE UP IN OCTOBER.
SO I THINK THE QUESTION MORE, SO WAS, IS IT GERRYMANDERING THE SAME THING AS REPRESENTATION BASED ON THE CENSUS? CAUSE I THINK YOU WENT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
CAUSE I BELIEVE HIS QUESTION WAS BASED ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND THAT'S MORE ABOUT REPRESENTATION WHEN YOU ARE SPECIFICALLY DOING GOOD FOR A RACE TO HAVE US APPEAR YOUR VOTE.
THAT'S CALLED GERRYMANDERING, CORRECT? RACIAL GERRYMANDERING, RACIAL GERRYMANDERING.
HE'S NOT ASKING ABOUT GERRYMANDERS.
HE ASKED ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD HERE IN BATON ROUGE AND I HAD REPRESENTATION AT THE CENSUS.
BUT I WAS STARTING AT THE CONGRESSIONAL WORKING MY WAY DOWN BECAUSE THE SCHOOL BOARD CASE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMOGRAPHICS.
ALL ON THE WEATHER PRECINCTS HAD TO BE SPLIT OR NOT.
DEMOGRAPHICS WERE NEVER TESTIFIED TO OR BROUGHT UP.
I WAS NOT SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I THOUGHT THESE ARE THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE CONGRESSIONAL, SOME WINE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS, AND I CONSIDER IT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
NOW YOU JUST THREW OUT ANOTHER TERM THAT I CAN QUESTION.
AND ACTUALLY I WANT KEEP IN MIND THE WISCONSIN THING, BECAUSE I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, GERRYMANDERING TO ME IS WHEN YOU FOLLOW THESE UNGODLY BOUNDARIES AND YOU'RE JUST WEAVING IN AND OUT AT DIFFERENT DISTRICTS JUST TO TAG SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S WHITE, BLACK, OR WHATEVER ELSE TOO.
SO YOU CAN GET TO, YOU KNOW, OH, I WANT THIS IN HERE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GERRYMANDERING AND RACIAL JANUARY MANDATE THERE'S THE SAME THING OR NOT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF AS FOR HIM, WHEN I REFERENCED GERRYMANDERING TO ME, WHAT I WAS QUESTIONING WAS THE DISTRICTS THEMSELVES.
AND YOU EXPONENTIALLY JUST EXPAND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OR WHATEVER, NOT NECESSARILY GERRYMANDERING, BUT JUST TAKING A SWATH THAT WE'RE GOING UP THIS WAY.
UM, AND IT COMPLETELY CHANGES THE WHOLE DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS QUESTIONING.
IF THOSE TWO THINGS WERE DIFFERENT AND THE PART OF JUST TAKING, UH, CHANGING THE WHOLE BOUNDARIES IN, IN GENERAL TERMS THAT LOOKS FROWNED UPON AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE WISCONSIN THING ON THE WISCONSIN THING.
WAS THAT A FILED LAWSUIT BY SOMEONE? OR DID THE COURTS JUST GET THIS MAP? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEIR COURTS ARE GOING TO REVIEW THESE THINGS.
DID THE COURTS JUST GET THE MAP AND GO, YEAH, THIS AIN'T GOING TO WORK.
NO, THE COURTS ONLY REVIEW IT.
IF SOMEBODY HAS FOLLOWED A CHALLENGE.
SO SOMEONE HAS TO FILE A CHALLENGE.
THE COURT CAN GET, GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT WE TURN IN.
AND AS LONG AS NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING, HOW NO MATTER HOW BAD IT IS, PLUS OR MINUS SPLIT AND 18 DIFFERENT PRECINCTS AND GERRYMANDERING, THE WHOLE THING.
IF NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING IT'S DONE, THE COURTS DON'T EVEN LOOK AT IT.
THEY DON'T EVEN GET A COPY OF IT UNLESS I CHALLENGE, UNLESS A COMPLAINT IS FILED CHALLENGING THE PLANET, OH, JUST STAY FOR THE RECORD.
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THE ISSUE IS WITH SECRETARY OF STATE, SECRETARY OF STATE IS THE ONE THAT WOULD ENFORCE YOUR PRECINCT PROVISION AND YOUR STATUTE.THEY SAY, IF A PLAN CAN BE DRAWN, THAT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND STATE STATUTE USING WHOLE PRECINCTS.
IF YOU ADOPT ANY PLAN IN CONTRAVENTION OF THAT, THEN IT'S DETERMINED TO BE NULL AND VOID BY COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION.
SO THEY COULD ACTUALLY CHALLENGE IT.
THEY COULD BE THE CHALLENGING PARTY SAYING, LOOK, EAST BATON ROUGE, YOU HAD FOUR PLANS THAT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAD A CHOICE OF THAT DIDN'T SPLIT PRECINCTS, BUT YOU ADOPTED A PLAN THAT SPLIT EIGHT PRECINCTS.
SO THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAYS, WE FEEL LIKE THAT WASN'T NECESSARY.
WE'RE GOING TO CHALLENGE A PLAN AND IT WOULD GO TO COURT.
AND THEN THE COURT WOULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL, I FIND THAT THE BOARD'S ADOPTED PLAN HAD A VALID REASON FOR SPLITTING EIGHT PRECINCTS OVER AND ABOVE ONE THAT HAD NO SPLIT PRECINCTS OR IT COULD RULE THE OPPOSITE PLANS OR EQUALLY VALID.
YOU GO WITH THE ONE THAT DOESN'T SPLIT PRECINCT.
SO IT'S THE SECRETARY OF STATE THAT YOU HAVE TO KIND OF WATCH FOR THE, WE DON'T HAVE SECTION FIVE PRECLEARANCE ANYMORE, BUT THAT NEVER GOT INTO ANY OF THIS STUFF.
IT GOT INTO MAINTAINING, UH, OR, UH, MINORITY REPRESENTATION THAT YOU KNEW PLAN.
DOES IT DELIBERATELY, UH, RETRO GRASS OR DILUTE MINORITY VOTING STRENGTH.
THAT'S WHAT THEIR REVIEW WAS THAT BACK IN THE 94 CASE WITH THE BOWSER VS RENO CASE, THERE IS SOMEONE IN THE LOOP THAT SAYS YOU JUST AIN'T WORKING.
THIS IS JUST SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE THE OVERVIEW.
WHEN YOU GET HIRED AS A DEMOGRAPHER, YOU KNOW, NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE GO TO THE PARENTS' ATTORNEYS, WE ALL HAVE GREAT IDEAS.
I THINK EVERYBODY SAID NOT DEER UP HERE THAT WE BROUGHT TO THE PARENTS' ATTORNEY AND THEY SAID, NAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
AND THIS IS WHY SO, AND THIS CHASE ARE YOU CONSIDERED THE ADVISOR BASED ON LEGAL STATURE AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENSURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE LAW TO THE T SO THAT THESE MAPS GO THROUGH, AS I TOLD YOU AT THE LAST MEETING, IS THAT I'M NOT HERE TO GIVE LEGAL ADVICE.
UM, UM, I'M NOT ABLE TO GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE, BUT WHAT I DO DO WITH MY, MY LAW DEGREE IS THAT I KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THIS AND HAVE BEEN FOR 30 YEARS NOW, OR READ THE CASES I READ THE OPINIONS.
I, UH, W I KNOW THE REASON I DO THAT IS BECAUSE PART OF MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE MY CLIENT ON A REDISTRICTING PLAN, THAT IN MY OPINION, IS GOING TO BE A SOLID PLAN IF IT GETS CHALLENGED.
SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE PLAN WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, BECAUSE I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THAT DID KIND OF BOTHER ME NO DISRESPECT TO YOU, THAT WE HAVE THE SAME DEMOGRAPHER THAT ALLOWED A MAP TO GO THROUGH THAT DID NOT.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN, YOU CAN KILL IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T VOTE ON IT, BUT YOU CAN GIVE ADVICE.
HEY, THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ESPECIALLY WITH A LAW DEGREE.
SO CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHAT ADVICE YOU GAVE OUR OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, THAT PUT THEM IN A PRECARIOUS SITUATION WITH HIM RIGHT NOW, FIRST OF ALL, PLAN 22 IS NOT MY PLAN PLAN 22 WAS DRAWN BY ONE OR MORE BOARD MEMBERS AND BROUGHT UP.
UH, DID IT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF VOTING RIGHTS ACT? YES.
UH, IT ACTUALLY IMPROVED THE MINORITY PERCENTAGES IN DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH HAD BEEN ERODED OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD SINCE 2010.
IT ACTUALLY RESTORED IT AND ACTUALLY MADE IT BETTER.
UH, DID IT SPLIT, UH, SOME PRECINCTS? YES, IT DID.
WAS THEIR ABILITY TO CREATE A NINE MEMBER PLAN WITHOUT IT? NO.
UH, SO THAT WAS MY ADVICE TO THEM.
I DIDN'T PUT THAT PLAN ABOVE ANY OF THE OTHERS.
I PREFERRED SOME OF MY OTHER ONES BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE NUMBERS LOOKED A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT THAT WAS THE BOARD'S CHOICE TO GO WITH THAT.
MY THING IS, DID IT MEET THE LAW? YES.
BUT IF, IF SOME WINNING PRECINCTS IS NOT MEETING THE LAW, WHICH IS WHY I WAS GETTING THROWN OUT, HOW DID IT MEET THE LAW? UM, AND LOOK, THESE ARE QUESTIONS I WOULD ASK THE PARENTS' ATTORNEY.
SO I'M COMING TO YOU AS OUR ADVISOR FOR THIS MATH.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN 30 SOMETHING YEARS, 32 YEARS THAT I HAVE SEEN A JUDGE SAY THAT, OH, THEY HAVE TO DECLARE THEIR MEMBERSHIP PRIOR TO STARTING REDISTRICTING.
THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT I DISAGREE WITH HIS OPINION, BUT HE'S THE JUDGE.
I'M NOT, UH, I DO A PLAIN READING OF ANY OF THE STATUTES.
AND THE STATUTE SAYS, YOU SHALL DECLARE IT.
THAT WHEN YOU REAPPORTION, YOU DECLARE YOUR MEMBERSHIP.
AND WE DO THAT WHEN THEY DECIDE ON A PLAN AT THE TIME OF ADOPTION, WE HAVE A CLAUSE IN THERE WITH THE MEMBERSHIP SHALL BE, AND ON THIS ONE
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WHERE THE BOARD, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THE MEMBERSHIP BACK, WE KEPT THAT WIDE OPEN.SO, SO I NEED YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT MEMBERSHIP IS CAUSE THAT'S MY IGNORANCE, BUT I'D WANT TO BE EDUCATED.
SO PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME, MEMBERSHIP IS A TERM THAT WE USE FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE BODY.
LIKE YOU HAVE 12 MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THEY HAVE NINE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.
THERE WAS INTEREST IN GETTING ONE BACK TO AN 11 MEMBER BY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK ANY OF Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS ON ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING ANY ISSUE.
ANY OF MY CLIENTS ON REPORTS, I HAVE PROBABLY 10% OF THEM THAT SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE NUMBER OF MEMBERS.
WHAT HAPPENS IF WE LOOK AT A ONE THAT'S MORE OR LESS, CAN YOU DRAW A PLAN? SURE.
THAT'S PART OF YOUR DELIBERATION PROCESS.
JUDGE IS SAYING, WHAT? NO, IF YOU D IF YOU CONSIDER ANYTHING ELSE, THEN YOU'RE LOCKED INTO IT.
IF IT DOESN'T SPLIT PRECINCTS.
AND I HAVE YET TO FIND A RULING THAT SUPPORTS THAT, OTHER THAN THAT ONE PARTICULAR RULING, OF COURSE, IT'S IN THE PELLET PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
SO REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL DECISION IS GOING TO BE.
BUT I WORK WITH THAT STATUTE ALL THE TIME.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A RATHER UNIQUE INTERPRETATION OF THAT STATUTE.
I KNOW PEOPLE MAY NOT AGREE WITH MY TAKE ON IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU THE SECRETARY OF STATE DOESN'T AGREE WITH THAT.
THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THAT INTERPRETATION AT ALL.
AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ENFORCE IT.
SO BACK TO WHERE WE ARE HERE, LET'S DO SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO KNOW.
YOU'D LOOK, I KNOW YOU'VE LOOKED AT A, BUT I LIKED YOU TO LOOK AT ONE AS WELL.
UM, AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT AT SOME POINT I LIKE TO SEE WHAT ONE LOOKS LIKE IN AN ATTEMPT TO CONVERT IT.
I KNOW YOU WORK EIGHT AROUND AND I NEED TO LOOK AT IT IN MORE DETAIL, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ONE AS WELL AND SEE WHICH ONE IS MORE CONDUCIVE OR MORE, MUCH MORE, UH, AVAILABLE TO, TO CONVERT HIM IN MY OPINION.
NO, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ALSO, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE TRENDS ARE, MEN IN DISTRICT ONE.
SO I KIND OF KNOW WHAT I'M WORKING WITH WITH REGARDS TO THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN SOME DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES OVER THE YEARS, UP IN THE ZACHARY AREA IN PARTICULAR.
UH, SO WE WANT TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AND SEE HOW THAT MAY INFLUENCE A DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.
AND WE WERE BAKER BEING JUST SOUTH FLORIDA, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER YOU MAY KNOW AT PROBABLY 80% BLACK OR MORE AT THIS POINT.
BUT IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A WHILE NOW, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN RELATIVELY NEW, BUT ZACHARY HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE LAST 10, 20 YEARS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO TAKE, I WANT HER TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TREND TO SEE WHAT THAT, AND A, IN MY OPINION, JUST DON'T HAVE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF POPULATION AND BLACK PEOPLE ADJACENT TO IT.
EVEN, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SAYING THE TRENDS, I JUST DON'T SEE THE POPULATION THAT REALLY DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH IT.
IT'S ACTUALLY CH EIGHT IS A VERY, UH, DIVERSE DISTRICT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOT A LOT OF POPULATION THAT IS NOT JUST WHITE AND BLACK, BUT OTHER, OTHER RACES AS WELL.
AND ETHNICITIES, IT'S A VERY, UH, VERY DIVERSE DISTRICT AS POP MORE.
SO PROBABLY ONE OF YOUR MORE DIVERSE DISTRICTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE ENTIRE, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
IF YOU DON'T MIND ME DOING THAT, DOING THAT WITH SOME OFFICE WORK AND THEN DO IT LIKE I DID WITH PLAN SIX, I'LL SEND IT OUT WITH A LITTLE MEMO EXPLAINING IT NO MATTER WHERE IT TAKES IT, WE EITHER GET THERE.
THERE'S NOT THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT.
AND OLDER OR WHAT'S THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT VIRGIN.
NO, WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, AT, FOR THIS IS FOR, AND THAT WAS, UH, OR I THINK, UH, DENISE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK.
I DID YOU WANT TO SEE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR ON TRUE.
NOW TO GO BACK TO, YEAH, THIS IS FOR RIGHT HERE.
I CAN GO BACK TO SIX TO GO BACK TO YOUR EARLIER STATEMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DISTRICTS WINDING ALL AROUND.
WHAT HAVE YOU REMEMBER? ONE OF THEIR REDISTRICTING CRITERIA IS THEY NEED TO BE AS COMPACT AS POSSIBLE, COMPACT AND VARIES BY JURISDICTION.
THE COMPACT DISTRICT IN, UH, IN IBERIA PARISH IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE WAY TASH AFFECTS THAT APOSTROPHE.
THEN IT WOULD BE IN JEFF DAVIS PARISH, WHICH WAS BASICALLY SQUARE A GRID PATTERN.
YOU KNOW, I DISTRICT THERE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING REALLY GOOD ON COMPACT NUMBERS WEST.
FOR THESE SHANA'S GONNA LOOK HORRIBLE AND COMPACT NUMBERS.
I BARRY'S IS GONNA LOOK HORRIBLE ON IT IS NOT SO BAD, BUT YOU DO HAVE SOME TOPOGRAPHY THAT DOES AFFECT IT.
AND A LOT OF US, BECAUSE THE WAY YOUR MAJOR HIGHWAYS COME IN, SET IT UP AND, AND COME IN AT, AT, UH, AT ANGLES.
BUT THAT AFFECTS YOUR DEPAL GRAPHY A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SO YEAH, YOU WANT TO BE AS COMPACT AS YOU CAN WHILE TAKING ALL YOUR OTHER CRITERIA AND IN PLACE, IT'S NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.
NONE OF THEM A REALLY SAT ABOVE THE OTHERS.
OTHER THAN YOUR BALANCE ON YOUR OVERALL POPULATION, THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE NOW, WHAT VERSION IS
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THAT SIX, WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THAT THAT PLAN IS COMPACT? UH, NOT AS COMPACT AS FOUR.AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE MINORITY NUMBERS UP, UH, IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT WAS TO REACH UP, PICK UP SOME OF THE MINORITY POPULATION NORTH OF FLORIDA, AND TRY TO SHED OFF SOME OF THE WHITE POPULATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE BETWEEN DISTRICTS NINE AND 11.
UH, SO THAT'S THE GENERAL APPROACH AND FOUR, AND THAT'S THE GENERAL APPROACH WITH THAT IS THOSE ARE THE THREE WAYS YOU CAN DO IT.
YOU TAKE OUT WHITES, ADD BLACKS, OR DO A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
THIS IS A COMBINATION OF BOTH IN DOING SO YOU'RE NOT AS COMPACT.
UH, ALSO TOO, IF, IF SOMETHING LIKE EVEN THIS WOULD GET CHALLENGES, WHAT WAS YOUR INTENT ON DOING THAT? YOU KNOW, ARE YOU USING RACE AS PART OF YOUR OTHER CRITERIA? ARE YOU USING AS THE PRIMARY CRITERIA AS TO DECIDE WHO GOES IN AND WHO GOES OUT? OKAY, LET ME ASK THE QUESTION THIS WAY.
IF, IF THIS PLAN WERE CHALLENGED, WHAT WOULD THIS PLAN STAND UP TO A CHALLENGE BASED ON COMPACTNESS OR HOW IT WAS CRAFTED? IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MORE SUSPECT IN THAT YOU USE RACE AS MORE OF A CRITERIA IN DRAWING THIS DISTRICT.
SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE IN DISTRICT FIVE THAN DISTRICT FOUR WOULD HAVE BEEN DISTRICT FOUR IS MOSTLY BALANCING THE NUMBERS USING WHOLE PRECINCTS, A VIRGIN FOR PLANNING FOR DISTRICT.
APPRECIATE THAT PLANNED FOR PLANNED FOR WAS MORE TAKING YOU EXISTING DISTRICTS, USING WHOLE PRECINCTS, TRYING TO REBALANCE AND, AND NOT DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD, WOULD MAKE YOUR MINORITY NUMBERS LESS THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE, WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE AS YOUR BENCHMARK.
THAT'S WHAT THIS, ALL NEW PLANS ALWAYS COMPARE IT TO YOUR BENCHMARK, WHICH IS YOUR CURRENT PLAN WITH THE 2020 POPULATION, AS FAR AS YOUR MINORITY PERCENTAGES GO.
SO BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE MORE COMPACT NUMBERS THAN FIVE AND SIX IS GOING TO HAVE MORE COMPACT NUMBERS THAN FIVE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING OUT QUITE AS FAR OUT NOW GOING IN DISTRICT ONE MAY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT DISTRICT.
DISTRICT FOUR WAS, BUT THE CHANGES ARE GOING UP ON THE NORTH END OF THE PARISH.
AND SO WE'LL RUN, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE.
AND EIGHT, THE ONLY REASON I WAS PICKING ON EIGHT, CAUSE IT HAD ALMOST A 10% INCREASE IN BLACK POPULATION BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020.
THAT'S THE MAIN REASON I LOOKED AT IT.
ANYTHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT A MODIFICATION OR IS THIS SOMETHING Y'ALL WANT TO CONTINUE TO STUDY FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE? AND LET ME WORK ON A PLAN SEVEN, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, WORKING MORE ON THE NORTH END TO SEE IF WE CAN'T BRING THOSE NUMBERS AND TO A DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT.
ACTUALLY, WE HAD THE 20TH DOWN, BUT, UH, I MAY NEED TO RESCHEDULE THAT, UM, UH, MAY BE ABLE TO MOVE IT UP, BUT PROBABLY MIGHT MOVE IT BACK TO THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
I KNOW WE'RE IN A RELATIVELY TIGHT TIMELINE, SO THAT'S WHEN I'M FINE.
YEAH, WE, WE'VE GOT TO GET SOMETHING INTRODUCED IF THE INTRODUCTION NEEDS TO BE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND I THINK THAT WAS GOING TO BE A GENERIC INTRODUCTION, WHICH GIVES US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO WORK INTO A FINAL VERSION OF A PLAN AS I UNDERSTOOD WHAT ASHLEY SAID LAST TIME.
WELL, I MEAN, ANYBODY CAN INTRODUCE A MAP AT THAT POINT.
EACH OF ALL, 12 OF US CAN INTRODUCE A SINGLE MAP AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, FINALIZE THINGS, AND THEN YOU WILL PROBABLY WILL ADOPT IT AS AMENDED OR A SPECIFIC BOARD.
AND IT'S CAUSE I HAVE TO DRAFT YOUR ORDINANCE FOR, WE MAY, WE MAY END UP HAVING TO HAVE TO A SPECIAL MEETING AND THEN A REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE IF WE DON'T AGREE IN THE AUGUST MEETING AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO COME BACK, SO WE MAY HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING JUST FOR THAT.
AND IF WE DON'T COME INTO AGREEMENT, DAN WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT UP ON THE AUGUST 13 MEETING.
WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THE, WE WILL INTRODUCE IT AND THEN WE'D HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE ACTUAL VOTE.
AND THAT WAY, BY THE TIME THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT, WE'LL HAVE TIME TO HASH IT OUT SOME MORE, BRING IT BACK UP AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING.
SO YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST WORKING ON YOUR CHARTER DEADLINE, NOT A STATUTORY DEADLINE.
NOW, WHEN DID THINGS THAT CAME UP AT THE LAST DISCUSSION WAS AS FAR AS THE DEADLINE GOES, WHAT WE HAVE TO PROVE IS THAT WE GOT A MAP INTO PLAY BEFORE A CERTAIN TIME TO MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
YOU'RE A PARISH COUNCIL BE THE ONE THAT'LL GIVE YOU THE ADVICE ON THAT.
UH, YOUR CHARTER SAYS THAT YOU'LL HAVE A REAPPORTIONMENT PLAN ADOPTED
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WITHIN ONE YEAR AFTER THE RELEASE OF THE CENSUS, WHICH WAS AUGUST 12TH, THE AFTERNOON OF AUGUST 12TH.SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GONNA SQUABBLE IF YOU DID IT ON THE 30TH.
UH, BUT YOU CHARTER BASICALLY SETS A DEADLINE FOR Y'ALL TO, YEAH.
I MEAN, IF ANYBODY ELSE REMEMBERS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION PART OF THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT MEETING THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT FOLLOW ON IT, BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS INTRODUCTION OR COMPLETE PASSAGE OR SOMEWHERE IN THERE, BUT IT WAS TALKED ABOUT THAT.
UM, EVEN IF WE HAD, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AND WE HAD TO GO PAST THAT, AS LONG AS WE SHOW OR GOT TO THE POINT OF EITHER INTRODUCING SOMETHING BEFORE THE DEADLINE, WE WERE OKAY, LEGALLY WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND, UH, THE COUNCIL, BUT THAT IS A FAIRLY COMMON INTERPRETATION.
WHEN YOU HAVE SOME DEADLINES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STATUTORY DEADLINES, THAT STORE DEADLINES ARE PRETTY MUCH THEY'RE SET.
UH, CAUSE I'VE HAD TO WORK AGAINST THE 11TH HOUR ON RESOLVING ISSUES BETWEEN MULTIPLE PLANS SOMETIME.
UH, BUT I WOULD THINK AS LONG AS YOU'RE IN PROCESS, MOST OF THOSE PROVISIONS IS MAKE SURE YOU DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT OR THAT YOU DON'T, UH, THAT YOU DON'T FAIL TO, THAT YOU DON'T DO IT.
THEN THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, REPERCUSSIONS IN THERE.
SEE IN 2030, UH, YOUR ELECTION CYCLE IS GOING TO COME UP FIRST YEAR, ACTUAL ELECTIONS AND BEING 2031, ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING IT WELL WITHIN A YEAR AFTER THE RELEASE OF THE CENSUS, YOU'LL BE DOING IT WITHIN PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AFTER THE RELEASE OF THE CENSUS, BECAUSE THE WAY YOUR ELECTION CYCLE FALLS WITH THE RELEASE OF THE CENSUS, THIS TIME SCHOOL BOARDS CAME FOR US.
NEXT TIME IT'S GOING TO BE PARISH GOVERNING AUTHORITIES FOLLOWING ONE AND B SCHOOL BOARDS IN PARIS GOVERNING AUTHORITIES, JUST THE WAY THAT THEY FALL.
UH, SO HERE STATUTORY, YOU HAVE TO JUNE THE NEXT YEAR, BUT YOUR CHARTER SAYS WITHIN A YEAR, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO GO BY THAT TRUMPS THAT.
BUT I WOULD THINK AS LONG AS THERE WAS A GOOD FAITH EFFORT ON DEVELOPING A PLAN AND YOU'RE JUST WORKING OUT THE DETAILS, I WOULD GUESS THAT THAT WOULD BE OKAY, BUT YOUR COUNSEL IS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT'LL GIVE YOU THE DETERMINATION ON THAT.
NOT HERE TO GIVE LEGAL ADVICE, LICENSE AND COUNT TO THE CALIFORNIA BAR.
ARE I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND IF YOU GIVE ME ONE MOMENT, BECAUSE I DO LIKE TO AS Y'ALL KNOW, KEEP TRACK OF MY VERSIONS.
YOU END UP PURPLE LAVENDER RIGHT HERE.
LET'S PUT IT IN THREE MONTHS TO TRACK OUR NUMBERS.
THAT'S THE PRECINCT RIGHT THERE.
LET ME PUT UP OUR LITTLE CHEAT SHEET UP HERE THAT HAS SIXTY SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO PEOPLES.
AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE EASIER TO READ.
UH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT YOUR TOTAL POPULATION.
WE HAD 6,600 IN THAT ONE BANK.
SO RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THESE TWO WE'RE AT 2,700, SO KIND OF TELLS ME I GOT TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THIS IS GOING TO GET YOU CLOSE RIGHT HERE.
IT MIGHT GET RID OF THIS LITTLE WEIRD LITTLE PRECINCT BOUNDARY.
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ALL RIGHT.YOU JUST, JUST SMIDGEN OVER, WHICH IS ACCEPTABLE RANGE FOR LOCALS NUMERICALLY.
HE HAD 5.2%, UH, DEVIATION ON THREE AND WELL IS ALMOST RIGHT ON THE MONEY AT A 0.94.
THREE, FOUR THAT'S 2300 PEOPLES.
THAT BUMPS HER UP TO 5.12 AND BRINGS YOU TO A 0.8, FIVE.
JUST KIND OF FLIPPED THAT, UH, WHICH MAP MODIFICATION.
THIS IS WHEN I CAME UP WITH IN BETWEEN, IT WAS KIND OF A MELDING OF FOUR AND FIVE.
IT'S BROWDY WHILE YOU THINKING ABOUT THAT, LET ME JUST JUMP UP HERE TO SEVEN REAL QUICK IN A, OKAY.
WHICH ONE ARE THEY? I SAID, WONDER, OH, 1 33.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO INTO SEVEN GOING INTO SEVENTH, RIGHT? WHAT PEOPLE? UH, NUMBERS BALANCE.
IT'S DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE ME STUFF FOR SURE.
IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT, THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE SOMETHING UP HERE, BUT, UH, BUT WE 28 THAT'S IN DISTRICT, THEY PUT THAT IN DISTRICT SIX.
I'M GOING TO THAT THROUGH 28
IF IT WASN'T CLEAR TO YOU, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CLEAR TO HIM.
I SAID EARLIER WHAT MY PRIORITY WAS, WAS THE INCREASED MINORITY REPRESENTATION FOR ME.
I LIKE TO SEE US SIX, SIX MAP.
DID YOU GET THAT OUT OF THE COMMENTS I'M MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU'VE MADE THAT STATEMENT FROM THE VERY GET-GO.
I DIDN'T THINK YOU HAD CHECKED.
WELL, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WAS IT SO CLEAR ON ITS OWN? SO MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS.
NO, THAT WAS MY FIRST MEETING.
THAT WAS WHAT A YEAR? YOUR OBJECTIVES IS THAT WHAT YOU TRIED TO DO WITH PLAN SIX? YES.
AND YOU SAW WHAT THE ISSUES WERE WITH THAT.
NOW WE HAVEN'T TRIED DOING IT WITH, WITH DISTRICT ONE.
WE WERE WORKING WITH DISTRICT EIGHT, BUT I'M GOING TO FACE THAT AND SEE WHERE THAT TAKES IT.
MAY WE MAY RUN INTO THE SAME ISSUES OR WE MAY NOT, BUT I THINK IT'S FAIR TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE, I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN, BUT I HAVE TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING COMES INTO PLACE.
THERE'S THE REDISTRICT CRITERIA.
YOU TAKE THEM IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WHOLE IT'S WHEN YOU START SINGLING ONE OUT AND ONLY USE THAT LIKE RACE THAT'S WHEN YOU RUN INTO THE ISSUE.
BUT IF YOU DO IT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE WHOLE, THEN IT'S NOT AS BIG AN ISSUE.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT TO GET THERE.
I THINK EVERY DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME ADJUSTMENT AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT FIVE, LIKE WE'RE 90 PLUS PERCENT AFRICAN-AMERICAN
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POPULATION IN THAT DISH.HE, HE DON'T NEED THAT TO MAINTAIN THE MINORITY AND MAJORITY REPRESENTATION.
WE EXPLORED SOME OF THAT SESSION ON THAT.
ACTUALLY ON THE SESSION BEFORE, BUT WE DID MOVE.
WE DIDN'T MOVE ONE AROUND TO TRY TO DO THIS.
ONE AND TWO MOVED AROUND A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
THAT'S ABOUT THE EXTENT THAT WE DID.
CAN YOU LOOK AT SIX FOR ME IN THIS MAP? AT THE TOP OF THERE IN, IN PARK FOREST AND HIS BORDER WATER, MAN, THEY'RE ALL HAVE GONE UP RIGHT HERE.
RIGHT? SO CAN YOU SHOW ME WHAT IT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE? CAUSE I THINK 180 2 IS CURRENTLY IN MY DISTRICT.
RIGHT? 180 2 IS IN DISTRICT FIVE AND A DISCUSSANT.
NO, NO, NOT THIS MAP TALKING ABOUT, OH, YOUR CURRENT MAPS.
CAN'T YOU DRAW THE LINES ON TOP OF IT.
I WOULD PREFER NOT TO LOSE THAT.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU PUT THAT BACK? LET'S PUT IT IN BECAUSE I'M WORKING ON A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VERSION HERE SO WE CAN PLAY AROUND WITH THIS.
LET'S SEE WHAT IT DOES TO BARRELS.
GOING TO HAVE TO PICK UP A LITTLE BIT FROM SOMEBODY.
SHOPPING INTO THAT 90% YOU MADE HIM GO UP.
SO WHAT IS, IS, UH, A REPRESENTATION NOW? IS IT? AND EVEN WHEN I TOOK THE BIGGEST FEAR THAT 89 THE RECORD, BUT EVEN WHEN I TOOK THE BIGGEST CHUNK OUT OF AARON, THEY ONLY MOVED ME THEN LIKE 84 OR 86.
AND THAT WAS THE BIGGEST PIECE I COULD GET TO MAKE ME A LESS OF A MINORITY DISTRICT AND TAKE SOME OF THE MAJORITY SPACE.
BUT IF YOU TAKE SOME OF HIS DISTRICT AND GIVE IT TO AARON, INSTEAD OF ADDING SOMETHING, WHAT WOULD THAT DECREASES? YOU GOT TO LOOK AT SOME, ALL THAT SWITCHING, ALL THOSE AROUND.
WE TAKE THE, TOOK A LOOK AT THAT LAST TIME.
AND IT JUST SENT YOU IS SO HAPPY.
SO IF EVERYBODY WAS KIND OF LIKE, YOU HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHIC BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND FLORIDA, WE'D HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THAT.
IT IS SO HEAVILY WEIGHTED BLACK NOR WHITE ON THIS OUT.
AND IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THE ONLY AREA YOU CAN REALLY PLAY IS THAT TRANSITION ZONE.
SO, SO THE, THE ISSUE REALLY THE ONLY ISSUE WITH ME AND ERIN IS WE LIVE NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER.
WE LIKE, WE IT'S A DIVIDED LINE, ALMOST FLANNERY BETWEEN ME AND ERIC.
SO, WELL ALSO THE COMMUNITIES THOUGH, I MEAN, YOU'RE KIND OF MORE INTO THE BATON ROUGE AREA.
HE'S KINDA ON THE PERIPHERY OF BATTERY, BUT IN THE MORNING, UM, I MEAN JUST IN TERMS OF ME AND BEING ABLE TO SHIFT, BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS I CAN'T TAKE HIS HOUSE FROM HIM.
AND SINCE YOU'RE NOT BUYING HIM A NEW HOUSE FOR HIM TO MOVE INTO.
SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS SECOND? LET'S TALK OPTION.
SO, SO IT KIND OF LANDLOCKED TO ME, EXCEPT FOR THOSE COUPLE OF PIECES IN THAT BIG CHUNK, I TOOK PRESENTED MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO LET'S GO WITH THE ONE RIGHT QUICK.
AND WE JUST BOUGHT THE PLATE SINCE EVERYBODY'S BEEN ON WHAT YOU GOING TO PLAY CHESS REAL QUICK.
SO, CAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN GET THERE, BUT IN ORDER I'M ABOUT TO JACK THE WHOLE MAP UP.
SO YOU MAY WANT TO DO A NEW VERSION, BUT SO TAKE CHINA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU TAKE CHINA UP, BUT TAKE CHINA UP THAT YOU'VE SPENT.
YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN ME FAIR WARNING.
I'M GOING TO GO, I'M GOING TO REDO THIS ONE BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET WHERE? CAUSE I DO WANT MORE.
BUT IN THIS EXERCISE, WE'RE FIXING TO GO DISTRICT ONE IN DISTRICT FOUR, BUT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT FIVE TO ONE, FOUR, AND THEN COME, IT'S GOING TO DO THIS.
YOU FIXING TO GO INTO ONE AND FOUR AND THEN BRING THEM.
AND THEN THE CHINA'S DISTRICT.
CAUSE SHE HAS SOME OF THAT FALLS TO THE ROAD.
I HAVE POOPER AROUND THE CENTRAL AREA WHERE I KNOW THAT THERE IS WHITE REPRESENTATION.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE OVER THERE.
SO WHICH PRECINCTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO RUN INTO? OH, YOU GOTTA BLOW THAT THING UP MAN.
UM, I'M GOING TO PUT THE PRESALE NUMBERS OR WE CAN SIT DOWN AND HELP ME FIND THIS MAN.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? TRYING TO FIND A FOSTER ROLE HERE.
OH, UH, W CLIPPER AGAIN, BACK TO MAP TO THE RIGHT ON THIS WAY.
OTHERWISE HE FOLLOWING THAT STRAIGHT LINE.
SEE WHERE IT SAYS BLACK WATER.
SO MOVE ME TO 11 TO 12 TO 10 SOMETHING IN THAT AREA.
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ALL RIGHT.NOW YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE WITH TWO 12? YEAH.
BUT WHAT IS IT DOING? WHAT IS IT DOING TO ME? UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT WIRELESS BEFORE WE PUT TWO 12, AM WE PUT TWO 10? I MEAN TWO 11 IN YOU WERE AT A MINUS FOUR.
THAT PUTS YOU AT A 2.6, EIGHT 89%.
DISTRICT TWO IS A MINUS EIGHT.
IT'S GOING TO NEED TO PICK UP SOMETHING SOMEWHERE TO ADD IN TO 10, FIVE TO 10 TO 10 AS WELL.
THAT'S GOING TO BRING YOU TO A 6.8.
SO DO ME, WELL GO TO THE PATTERSON.
UH, GO, GO TO TWO, THREE, GO UP.
YOU GOT TO GO UP TO THE RIGHT.
WHAT'D YOUR BROOKSTOWN THE MONTH.
GIVE ME A MINUTE TO LOOK FOR IT.
SO WE DON'T SPLIT HOW APART? YEAH.
THE 2003 SWAG CHAMPION QUARTERBACK, QUINCY RESHAD IS ENDED UP BUILDING THE ATTORNEY.
QUINCY RECHARGE MY QUARTERBACK.
OH, THAT'S TWO, THREE RIGHT HERE.
LET ME SEE IF I ADD THAT ON THERE.
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? UH, WE PUT TWO, THREE AND TWO YEARS.
I KNOW, BUT WHAT, W WHAT, WHERE AM I? MY MAJORITY AND MINORITY NUMBER? 88%.
NOW I CAN DO THAT BY TAKING ONE PRETTY SACRED MIRROR.
UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET YOU AN 8 88 89.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT A THOUSAND TIMES MORE THAN THAT.
I GOT THE 84 LAST WEEK, WHICH IS, BUT THAT WAS TAKING A LITTLE PIECE.
SO LET'S, LET'S DO THIS REAL QUICK.
BACK IT ALL OUT, BACK IT ALL OUT.
THAT JUUL ROAD, A CHUNK TOOK FROM AARON.
UM, NO, TO THE LEFT, TO THE LEFT TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF YOU OR NORTH SIDE.
SO I THINK IT WAS THAT ONE BETWEEN DREW AND HOOPERS.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF BOUNCING BACK, WHICH ONE IS HALF THE VILLE IS AIR.
NO, THAT'S THE ONE RIGHT THERE, AARON, BUT THEN YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE RIGHT THERE.
AND WHAT DOES THAT PUT ME THE ONE BELOW IT.
THAT PUTS YOU AT A 3.5, THREE DEVIATION WITH AN 84%.
SO NOW LOOK, SO AARON IS STILL TOUCHING.
SO NOW TAKE SHAWNA UP INTO ONE AND THEN MOVE BRANDON TO THE RIGHT AND THEN MOVE AIR DOWN A LITTLE BIT, WHICH WAS STILL AD POPULATION.
SO WHERE DO YOU WANT TO MOVE ON OVER TO? YOU WANT THIS ONE HERE? OH, THIS HAS TO BE THREE 30, PROBABLY RIGHT THERE.
LOOKING LIKE SHE'S AT A 1% DEVIATION.
ONE IS LOW AT A MINUS SEVEN AND WHAT'S THE RACIAL MAKEUP.
THAT'S TOUGH BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO, YOU'D HAVE TO SHIFT SHAUNA ALMOST OVER IN THE CENTRAL.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY HE DOES IT.
AND THAT DOESN'T YOU HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH.
BUT I THINK WHAT WAS ULTIMATELY SAID AT THE FIRST MEETING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, YOU JUST ASSUME PAINT THAT WHOLE MAP WHITE, WHITE IS FROM SCRATCH AND JUST START BUILDING FROM SCRATCH.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAY WE CALL IT UNASSIGNED.
WE HONEST ON A SIGN, EVERYTHING AND STARTED.
SO, HEY, HEY, ADD THAT TO AARON.
SO NOW YOU CAN PLAY WITH THE TOP BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE CONTIGUOUS.
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IF YOU DID NOT NOW MOVE A TWO DASH WHATEVER THE LINE IS IS THE, THE SCREEN LINE IS TWO DASH 14 DASH 18, 2 14 AND TWO 18 INTO SHAWNA.SO YOU GO TAKE ZACHARY, THE CITY OF ZACHARY.
I THINK YOU GOT TO GO SHAWNA STYLE, BUT SHE WOULD HAVE TO GET WHATEVER THAT IS.
WHAT IS THAT ATLANTA? I MEAN, HERE, YOU ALREADY IN THE HARDEST CENTRAL TO, YEAH, BUT IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
THERE IS THAT CENTRAL'S CA I MEAN, UH, ZACHARY IS KIND OF DEER POPULATION CENTER FOR DISTRICT ONE.
THAT'S WHERE THE WEIGHT OF THE POPULATION ARE GOING TO BE.
SO WHAT ABOUT TWO DASH SEVEN? 2 7 2 7 IS GOING TO, IS GOING TO BE ISOLATED.
DO YOU HAVE TWO EIGHT AND 2, 3, 3 IN BETWEEN? THIS IS THE BOUNDARY.
OKAY TANYA IS A 2.5, FIVE 81%.
THAT'S MCCULLOUGH ROAD, 2 64 OVER THERE.
IT'S LIKE THE BEST WAY TO GET THERE.
NOW WHAT DOES THAT DO TO A ONE, ONE, IS IT A MINUS 12 WITH A 41% MINORITY BLACK POPULATION AND FOUR IS LOW.
SO ONE CAN ONLY PICK UP BRAHM AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
OH, PUT, PUT ONE, GIVE ONE, TWO DASH FIVE.
I MEAN, UH, YOUR, OH, YOU'D LIKE TO WRAP COMPLETELY AROUND 13 AND 14.
SO YOU IN BLUE ROAD AND ONE WHAT'S THAT? 13, 17, 15.
I THINK THAT'S MOST OF THAT'S BADER, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU WANT TO START ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FRUIT? ALL RIGHT.
YOU WANT TO DO 20 AS WELL? NO, JUST THE TOP COURSE.
HE SAID YOU GO TAKE BAKER AWAY FROM SHOWING HIM.
OH, SHE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ADVOCATE.
I'M GETTING THAT LOCKED A LOT EARLIER.
I'M GOING TO GET THAT LOST A LOT EARLIER THAN I WAS PLANNING.
SO WHAT DOES THAT DO TO ONE, ONE IS AT A 1.35 AT A 45%.
THAT PART WHERE IT SAYS TWO NEGATIVE, 11, 15.
DO THOSE CORNER KENYA? NO, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A NON-CONTIGUOUS DISTRICT AT THIS POINT.
EH, WHAT HAVE YOU ASKED? 15 IN 2015 AT WHAT? I HAD TWO DASH 15 IN THERE.
15? YEAH, WE PROBABLY WON'T WORK.
YEAH, I THINK, BUT IS THAT THE BEST WAY TO CORNERS? FOR SURE.
WHAT DOES TO THE PEOPLE OVER THERE, BUT YEAH, THAT ALBUM THAT LEFT THE WEST, I WENT TO THE WEST, THE FURTHEST TO THE WEST.
OH, THIS ONE SHAWNA'S DISTRICT PUT IN DOWN TO SEE WHAT ELSE? THAT ONE HAS 2000, 2100 PEOPLE OF WHICH 655 OF WHITE 1300 A BLACK.
SHE WOULD BE BALANCED AT A MINUS TWO, BUT AT 81% BLACK POPULATION, ONE WOULD BE A MINUS SEVEN IN THERE.
SO NIGGER ROAD, THAT WAS 1.45, BUT AT 81%, BRANDON'S GOING DOWN.
ONE IS AT A 41% BLACK, BUT A MINUS 11% DEVIATION
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STILL IS FOUR.I WAS EXPLAINING HOW I DO THAT ALL THE TIME.
I JUST KIND OF SOMETIMES AIMLESSLY, JUST THINK THREE OR FOUR MOVES AHEAD AND SEE IF IT WORKS.
AND HE SAID ONE IS WORTH OUT OF THIS AND WAS, I MEAN, I WANT US TO GET ALL THE MONEY'S WORTH.
SO WE'LL LET YOU DO, IF THIS IS WHERE IT COMES IN, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR OVERALL DEMOGRAPHICS ARE, BUT IT'S WHERE THEY LIVE AND THE SHAPE OF THOSE PRECINCT.
NO, I KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOUR CAUSE WHAT, WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THIS WHOLE THING HERE.
AND LIKE I SAID, I, I THINK IT'S FUN WATCHING, WATCHING US DO THIS IS YOU BASICALLY WENT AFTER EVERY CITY CENTER TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
YOU WENT INTO BAKER AND SHOWING US.
AND THEN YOU WENT INTO ZACHARY.
NO, I'M JUST SAYING IF THERE WAS A CITY, I'M SURE DARRYL CAN FIND THE CITY CENTER FORUM THAT MIGHT BE GERRYMANDERED.
OH, THAT SHE WANTS A COPY OF IT.
UH, IT WAS JUST TALKING BACK THESE OUT.
WE'RE BACK TO DICK SAYS WE'RE MODIFYING OF IT.
HE WANTED TO PUT AN AREA OVER THERE.
LET ME GET BACK TO SEVEN REAL QUICK LAMONT BRAN.
YOU HAD ANOTHER AREA YOU WANT TO LOOK AT AND THEN YOU WERE A IT IN A REASON WHETHER IT'S BEEN OKAY, 2 28, 3 28 TO SAY, HEY, I KNOW I JUST HAD IT A MINUTE AGO.
LET ME GET TO MY LITTLE CHEAT SHEET HERE.
YOU WANT TO SEE WHERE WE'D GO INTO THE SIX? OKAY.
THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S ONLY CONTIGUOUS WITH OPINION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A STICK SO THAT NO MATTER HOW WE NEED TO GET THERE, THE COURT'S GOING TO THROW IT OUT THERE.
THAT'S GOING TO END UP CUTTING OFF THE NORTH PART ON EIGHT AND SEE ME.
LET ME JUST SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ME.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE BALANCE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR THING I'M LOOKING FOR.
AND I TOLD DENISE THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, NO DISRESPECT TO HER IS TO ME, THAT DISTRICT, HE IS ALREADY, THE ONLY WAY TO GET IN AND SIX IS IF WE CAME AROUND AND TOOK 1 97 LOW-HANGING FRUIT AND IT CAME IN THAT WAY, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE IN AT 1 97, 42 AND 3 28 TO GET TO THAT.
AND THAT'S GOING TO CUT THIS TO PRECINCT.
I'M JUST, LIKE I SAID, IN THE FIRST MEETING, JUST LIKE ME, I'LL SAY IT CAN HAPPEN.
AND THEY KNOW TELLING WHO WILL GET ELECTED, BUT YEAH, NO.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? RIGHT? YOU SAY, HEY, THIS DISTRICT, I JUST CAN'T DO ANYTHING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THE PRECEDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING SAID.
AND SO WE CAME BACK INTO THE LAST MEETING TO RULE OUT THOSE PRECEDENTS IS THAT WE DIDN'T MEET THOSE THINGS.
THINGS THAT THEY GOT THROWN OUT OVER, WHETHER IT WAS PRECINCT OR A GERRYMANDERING, RACIAL JANUARY AND JANE, OR JUST PLAIN OUTRIGHT BEING ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY VOTED ON A MAP.
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UM, I THAT'S, THAT TO ME IS WHAT I'M GOING FOR IS TO WHATEVER WE THROW OUT THERE, WHERE DID IT? SIX, SIX, WHETHER IT'S US, WHAT DOES THAT MAP OR WHATEVER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOG.BECAUSE AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO MY POINT, IF WE DO THAT AND WE'VE DETERMINED, WE'RE NOT BECAUSE OF WHO I CAN GO.
JUST GIVE HIM HIS STUFF WHERE HE WANTS IT.
CAUSE THEY WENT KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ANOTHER WAY INPUT.
I MEAN, I'VE JUST, I'VE JUST, AND AGAIN, WHEN I GO BACK TO THE BALANCING, I THINK THIS WHOLE PROSPECT BROKE RIGHT.
POLITICALLY AND THEN OLD OR WHY THEY DIDN'T, I JUST DON'T LIKE THE PRODUCT.
SO I HAVEN'T BEEN GETTING A LITTLE BREATH OR, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ME FINDING THE PROBLEM.
IT, I JUST FEEL LIKE EITHER, EITHER WAY, WE'RE HEADING TO A LAWSUIT, JUST LIKE WHAT THE WISCONSIN THING.
THE REASON I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT WISCONSIN, WHEN HE BROUGHT THAT UP, WAS IT SOMEBODY TO GO AFTER IT OR DID IT LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, TUNE UP PROCESS.
DID THE COURT OR THE SECRETARY OF STATE JUST GO, YEAH.
THAT'S UH, THAT WAS STUPID OF Y'ALL TO VOTE ON THIS AND BRING IT BACK.
I THINK SOMEBODY HAS TO CHALLENGE.
I THINK ALSO ALSO HAS TO BE FILED FOR THEM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANT IS WHEN WE PRESENT A MAP AND WE VOTE ON IT, THAT IT'S GOING TO GET CHALLENGED THESE AWAY, IT GOES TO COURT AND THEY GO, THEY SAT HERE AND WORKED ON THIS AND THEY, THEY MET EVERY BIT OF GUIDELINES.
I MEAN, EVEN TO THE POINT OF, I THINK IT WAS THE SCHOOL BOARD THING THEY EVEN SAID WITH THE SPLITTING OR THE ADDING A BUTTON PLUS OR MINUS OF THE, UM, EQUAL ADDED ONTO THE BOARD, WHATEVER.
I THINK ONE OF THE RULINGS WAS IF THEY'D HAVE STATED THAT AT THE BEGINNING, THAT THIS WAS THEIR PLAN TO MAINTAIN NINE SEATS, WHAT? I'M SORRY, THEN IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED OR WHATEVER ELSE, BUT THEY NEVER MADE.
UH, AND Y'ALL GOT MONITORS IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY, EXCEPT YOU'RE IN FRONT OF Y'ALL KNOW, WE COULD JUST PIPE THE SIGNAL.
AS I TOLD YOU, I'M VERY BEGINNING.
IT'S ALWAYS A PERFECT PRODUCT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THEY WANT TO SEE YOU.
WE HAVEN'T BOTHERED YOU AS A DISTRICT TOO MUCH.
YOU SAID YOU'D LEAVE IT ALONE.
AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ABIDE BY THAT FROM THE VERY FIRST WORKSHOP YOU SAID LEAVE DISTRICT 10 ALONE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OH YEAH.
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UH, UH, YOU TELLING ME DON'T CHANGE IT.THE ONLY THING I HAVEN'T DONE IS LOCKED IT IN YET.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEMBER MEETING ABOUT REDISTRICTING ON JUNE 13TH, 13TH IN DALLAS DISTRICT COUNSELING TO HER SISTER.
DOES COMMUNITY MEAN, DO YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE WE SCHEDULED OUR REDISTRICTING MEETING ON THAT DAY? SO, UM, WAIT, WAIT, HOLD, LET'S LISTEN TO THE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION, THE STATEMENT IS THERE IS A COMMUNITY REDISTRICTING MEETING IN DISTRICT FIVE ON JULY 13TH IN THE AFTERNOON.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, I MAY HAVE TO CANCEL THAT, BUT I WILL LET Y'ALL KNOW IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO DO WE, DO WE WANT TO HAVE, CAUSE WE HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THE JULY 20TH MEETING WE WERE GOING TO HAVE HERE.
DO WE WANT TO PUSH IT UP TO JULY 14TH OR DO WE WANT TO GO? SO YOU JUST SAY, I HAVE TO BE OUT OF STATE ON A PROJECT I'M ON A TEAM WORTH AND UNFORTUNATELY I'M NOT THE ONE TO GET ONE O'CLOCK HERE.
YOU HAVE A MEETING THAT AFTERNOON.
SO WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT I, YOU KNOW, UH, ASHLEY JUST MENTIONED TO ME, WE MAY HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME THAN OUR AUGUST 13 DEADLINE.
I'D RATHER WE HAVE THE REDISTRICTING MEETING CLOSER TO, UH, OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION AND ME THAT WE HAVE, WE MAY HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME BEYOND AUGUST 13.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO IT THE WEEK OF, UH, WHAT ABOUT THE 19TH OR 21ST? WELL, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE OUT OF STATE DURING MOST OF THAT WEEK.
WHAT ABOUT THE 27TH? THAT'S HOW IT FIRST THAT'S WHEN WE COME BACK FOR COUNSELING.
WHAT ABOUT THE 27TH? 27TH, 27TH AS A POSSIBILITY ON MY END.
SEVEN THAT'S OUR COUNCIL MEETING BAG.
I DON'T WANT ANY MORE OF NON COUNCIL DAYS.
I HAD TO REARRANGE EVERYTHING TO GET HERE AT ONE O'CLOCK ONE O'CLOCK ONE TO THREE.
THAT'S WHAT THE OTHER ONES WERE NOT THE LAST ONE, BUT THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS AT THE LIBRARY OR YOU GOT A COUNCIL MEETING THAT EVENING.
IT TAKES A LOT OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE TO DO THESE SPECIAL ONES.
AND I REALIZED THAT I LIKE IT BETTER AND GIVE TOO BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS TO VIEW.
DO WE HEAR ONE O'CLOCK JULY 27TH.
ALSO DENNIS IS NOT HERE AND I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS OUR PROCESS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S A COUNCIL THING AND SOMEONE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A MEDIA PRESENCE FOR THE COUNCIL, LIKE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE DOES.
UM, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS I GET EMAILS LEFT AND RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL PUT SOME OUT AS FAR AS YOU INDIVIDUALS OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S QUITE CONCERNING AND I'M GOING TO HAVE A DISTRICT MEETING ALSO, BUT IT'S QUITE CONCERNING THAT WE'VE HAD, I THINK MORE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND PROBABLY ANY OTHER BODIES OR WHATEVER ELSE.
AND I THINK WE'VE HAD GREAT DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF PLAYING AROUND WITH THE MAPS, BUT NOBODY'S HERE.
WE SEND OUT PRESS RELEASE FOR EVERY THING THAT Y'ALL DO TEARING COMES.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY INQUIRIES FROM IT'S JUST DISHEARTENING TO SEE.
WE GOT TO, OF COURSE WE HAD THE, UH, YOU KNOW, NEWS REPORTERS HERE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE OR NOISE, I THINK THE CITY PARISH, ONE OF US.
SEE, I, I MEAN, IF THAT'S, I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, IT'S JUST HEARTENING.
I'D LOVE TO SEE, UH, MORE PUBLIC INPUT HERE AT THESE MEETINGS.
UM, ESPECIALLY THIS IS OUR WHAT FIFTH ONE AND THE FIRST ONE WAS THE ONE THAT WE HAD PEOPLE THERE AND THEN IT, IT DIED OFF.
SO TO THE PUBLIC, I WOULD REQUEST THAT IF I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS BEING BROADCAST OR SAVED OR PUT OUT THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, PLEASE GET INVOLVED, CALL YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT, COME TO THESE MEETINGS.
AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING HARD TO GET THESE TAKEN
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CARE OF.SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT COUNCILMAN MODE, BUT IF WE CAN NOT EXPECT THE LOGIC TURNOUT FROM THE PUBLIC, WE CAN'T DO IT DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING AND DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN THAT JOB SCHEDULE TO COME TO MAYBE A DAY MEETINGS AT ONE O'CLOCK.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO GET A BIGGER TURNOUT, I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT IN THE EVENING AND DO IT IN THESE COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE INSTEAD OF EXPECTING THEM TO COME DOWNTOWN.
SO THOSE ARE SOME ADJUSTMENTS I THINK YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
I THINK YOU'D GET A BIT BETTER TURNOUT IF YOU DID.
I MEAN, I, I'M GOING TO TRY AND AS Y'ALL HOST YOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WHEN YOU DO, YOU KNOW, I, I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO TRY AND BE THERE FOR WHETHER IT'S JUST FOR Y'ALL OR FOR THE COUNCIL OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHETHER I JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH IT, THE PUBLIC, OR IF IT JUST A QUESTION COMES UP OR WHATEVER, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL.
IF I GET MINE SCHEDULED, PLEASE, I INVITE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL INDIVIDUALLY TO COME OUT TO MIND ALSO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK IN ADDITION TO WHAT BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN HAVE SAID, I THINK THE PUBLIC THEY'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LEGISLATOR.
THEY'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SO THEY ARE NOT EXPECTING, OR THEY REALLY, I JUST BELIEVE THAT AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THEM WRONG.
Y'ALL AS I SIT HERE, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THEM WRONG, BUT THEY ARE NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING, ANY DIFFERENT OR ANY BETTER TO HAPPEN ON THE COUNCIL LEVEL HERE.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S GOING TO BE INCUMBENT ON EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF US TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND MAKE THEM WRONG.
AND THEN WE GO AND GET INTO SOME MORE RESPECT.
I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
I THINK IF THEY WOULD COME OUT AND SEE HOW WE'VE ALREADY PROVEN THE OTHER TWO BODIES WRONG IN WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED IN THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND IN THE WAY WE'VE HANDLED, HANDLED OURSELVES AS A COUNCIL AND YOU HEAR THAT OUT THERE, BUT THEY ARE WAITING AND SEE, YOU KNOW, SHOW ME, SHOW ME STATE, RIGHT? OH YEAH.
I'VE DEFINITELY WITHIN THE HILTON AT THE PARIS LOW, DEFINITELY BEEN THE MOST ACTIVE AND LOOKING AT EXPLORING IT, SEEING WHAT'S POSSIBLE, THROWING OUT IDEAS.
I, THAT THAT'S WHAT THESE ARE FOR.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, EVEN WITH THE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PEOPLE WERE THERE, BUT THERE, IT WAS ALWAYS A SINGLE ISSUE, NOTHING ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE THE MAPS BETTER AND Y'ALL KNOW HOW WE CAN MAKE A MAP BETTER WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER.
UH, THE ONLY DOG I HAVE IN THIS HUNT IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD SOLID PLAN AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS.
THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT IS MY ONLY INTEREST.
THAT'S WHAT MY VESTED INTEREST IS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE VERY BEST PLAN THAT WE COLLECTIVELY CAN COME TOGETHER AND, UH, PUT FORWARD BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE HERE.
I DON'T VOTE HERE SO NEUTRAL ON EVERYTHING ELSE.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANOTHER PLAN BASED ON AN IDEA THAT WE HAD, I'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES AND I'LL S I'LL SEND THEM MY RESULTS OVER TO THE NEXT PLAN BEING SENT TO US IS GOING TO BE THE BEST YOU CAN DO WHEN HE'S SIX, SIX.