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UH, GOOD MORNING.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TOWARD OF THE MUNICIPAL FIRE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.

TODAY IS NOVEMBER 21ST.

THE TIME IS 10 42.

ALL RIGHT.

[1. Roll Call]

COULD WE, UM, BEGIN WITH THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, SIR.

UM, MR. JOHN SMITH PRESENT.

MS. TRINA DORSEY.

PRESENT.

MS. SHARON LEWIS? PRESENT? MR. PRESS ROBINSON PRESENT.

BRANDON WILLIAMS. PRESENT AND ATTORNEY? JOSHUA DAR.

PRESENT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A FORM.

THANK YOU.

UH, MOVING ON.

ITEM NUMBER

[2. Consider Motion to Approve Agenda]

TWO.

AT THIS TIME, WE'D LIKE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE AGENDA.

ACCEPT THERE AGAIN? OKAY.

BEEN MOVED.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

SECOND BY JOHN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION.

THERE'S AN ITEM THAT WANTS TO BE, UH, NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THIS.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD IT.

OKAY.

I'LL JUST PUT IT IN WITH THE PAS.

ALL RIGHT, NO PROBLEM.

MOVING ON TO ITEM.

THAT MOTION PASSES.

MOVING ON TO, UH,

[3. Review and Approve Minutes from October 24, 2022, meeting]

ITEM PASSES.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 24TH.

MEETING HERE.

ACTION.

I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS HAS BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND BY MR. SMITH.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM

[4. Review and Approve/Reject Personnel Action Forms]

NUMBER THREE.

TO REVIEW AND APPROVE OR, UH, TO REVIEW AND APPROVE OR REJECT PERSONNEL ACTION FORM.

HAVE THEM HERE.

I HAVE A BUT YOU HAVE, SO YEAH, I HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY FROM THE POLICE? NO, SIR.

I, NO, NO.

PERSONNEL ACTION FORM.

OKAY.

AND SIERRA? IT'S NOT HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MOVE WITH, WE APPROVE PDFS, PAFS FROM FIRE DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. ROBINSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER

[5. Consider and Approve/Reject Applications]

FIVE.

CONSIDER AND APPROVED OR REJECT APPLICATIONS.

WE HAVE THE APPLICATIONS CURRENTLY CIRCULATING AROUND.

TRUST EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT 'EM.

PUT YOUR EYES ON AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION.

MM-HMM.

, I THINK THERE'S ONE THAT NEEDS TO ALREADY HAVE.

WE GOT, LOOK, WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

UH, I DO HAVE, WE HAVE ONE THAT HAS BEEN DISQUALIFIED.

WOULD YOU LIKE A BREAK OUT ON EACH INDIVIDUAL CATION? UH, YES.

THAT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS HOW MANY WE APPROVED THERE.

JUST HAVE THE REASON IT WAS JUST DISQUALIFIED.

WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT PUBLIC.

PROBABLY.

I'VE, YEAH.

WE JUST HAVE LET RECORD REFLECT.

WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION THAT WAS DISQUALIFIED.

WHAT, WHAT POSITION OVER THERE? IT'S FOR CRIMINAL INTELLIGENCE ANALYST.

OKAY.

WHY? IT WAS IN COMPLETE AND, UH, HAD COME IN ON MARCH OF THIS YEAR AND BEING MADE AWARE OF THE CHANGE TO THE SPECIFICATION.

UH, I ACTUALLY ATTEMPT TO, YEAH.

THE NUMBER.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, QUITE A FEW.

YEAH.

YES, THEY'RE CIRCULATING THE POLICE.

THEY HAVE A, A BUNCH.

THEY'LL, THEY'LL GET TO US.

GIVE 'EM A SECOND, RIGHT? JUST, YEAH.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND TO GO TO IT.

IT'S A LOT.

WE COME BACK.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING

[6. Consider and Approve/Reject Results of Examination]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

TO CONSIDER AND APPROVE, REJECT RESULTS OF THE EXAMINATION.

YEAH.

I HAVE AN APPLICATION, UH, SHE TOOK HER CIVIL SERVICE EXAM AT ST.

TA AFFAIRS.

SHE WANTS TRANS SCORE AT THE PUTTING IN THEIR APPLICATION FOR FILE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE.

THAT'S ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, HUH? NO.

NO.

OH, THAT'S,

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OH, THAT'S SEVEN.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE AT.

NO, WE'RE ON THE ONE SIX.

OH, OKAY.

I'M S HEARD.

YEAH.

WHICH ONES ARE THEY? .

VE GOT SOME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

HMM.

ON ONE, LOOK AT THESE.

ANOTHER INSIDE OF I AN OPEN UP ON.

YEAH, WE OPEN IT.

HMM.

LOOK AT THAT, JOHN.

HMM.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

INFORMATION.

YOU SHOULD CALL FOR A MOTION.

YEAH.

UM, THIS TIME, LIKE, CALL FOR A MOTION ITEM NUMBER SIX TO APPROVE OR REJECT.

I MAY I MOVE? WE APPROVE THE TEST SCORES.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND BY MR. ROBINSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

MOVING

[7. Consider and Approve/Reject request to transfer scores to Baton Rouge Fire Department for Communication Officer I.]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

TO CONSIDER AN APPROVED REJECT REQUEST TO TRANSFER SCORES TO BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR COM COMMUNICATION OFFICER ONE.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST SAYING THAT GIRL TOOK HER TEST.

THINK TAMMY PARISH .

I BELIEVE WE ACCEPT HER APPLICATION AND SCORES FROM.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO, UH, APPROVE.

SAME.

MR. ROBINSON? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

YOU HAVE THAT PERSON'S NAME.

READ IT INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE.

JENNA RAYFIELD.

JENNA RAY SPILLMAN.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM,

[8. Consider request from Sgt. Cody J. Gunter to gain admission to the upcoming test for Police Lieutenant]

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR SERGEANT CODY GUNTHER TO GAIN ADMISSION TO UPCOMING TESTS FOR POLICE.

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UH, LIEUTENANT, WE HAVE OFFICER GUNTHER HERE.

YES, SIR.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

CODY GUNTHER.

MY ADDRESS? YES, SIR.

1973 SOUTH BRIGHTSIDE VIEW, APARTMENT E HERE IN MAN ROUGE, UH, 7 0 8 20.

THANK YOU.

I'M, I'M A SERGEANT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'VE BEEN A SERGEANT FOR ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, I'VE WORKED HERE FOR 21 YEARS.

I HAVE 25 YEARS TOTAL.

I WORKED FOUR YEARS BEFORE HERE, AND I'M HERE JUST TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT I'D BE ALLOWED TO TAKE THIS LIEUTENANT'S TEST.

I TURNED THE APPLICATION IN A DAY LATE.

UM, DIDN'T SEE THE EMAIL CAME OUT ON THE 17TH.

AND AMONG THE MANY EMAILS THAT WE GET DAILY, I DIDN'T SEE IT.

AND I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER 1ST.

I WAS CLEANING OUT MY EMAILS.

I SAW IT, I IMMEDIATELY FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND WENT AND TURNED IT IN.

UM, IT'S BEEN THREE, A LITTLE OVER, I THINK THREE YEARS SINCE OUR LAST LIEUTENANT'S TEST.

AND I JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH MY CAREER AND, AND BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS MOTION.

THAT'S ABOUT IT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? WHAT, WHAT'S THE DEPARTMENT'S, UM, TAKE ON IT? ? SAY THAT AGAIN? WHAT'S THE DEPARTMENT'S TAKE? WHAT'S THE ADMINISTRATION'S TAKE? UH, WASN'T EXPECTING TO SPEAK TODAY, BUT, UM, I, I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE THAT THE DEPARTMENT NOT HAVE A PARTICULAR, UH, VOICE ON THIS MATTER BECAUSE, UM, I THINK THAT CIVIL SERVICE SETS THE DATES AS WELL AS EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND I, I THINK BY ALLOWING US TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHO TAKES THE TEST OR NOT, MAY JUST CAUSE MORE CONFUSION.

SO THE DEPARTMENT RESPECTS WHATEVER THE DECISION THE BOARD MADE.

OKAY.

SO, SO WAS ALL THE POSTING, LIKE, I KNOW WE SENT IT OUT BY EMAIL, NOW IT HAS TO BE POSTED AT FIRE STATIONS.

WAS ALL THE PROPER POSTINGS, UH, ADHERED TO? I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT I KNOW IT WAS POSTED AT POLICE HEADQUARTERS.

I DO KNOW IT WAS SENT OUT DEPARTMENT WIDE.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY, YES, I'LL SAY THIS.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD, BUT I'M WILLING TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION THIS TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPEN.

I THINK YOU'D BE SET IN PRECEDENCE IF YOU DID THAT.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, SINCE THE LAST EXAM BEYOND, SAY THAT AGAIN.

THE LAST EXAM WAS IN DECEMBER, 2020.

OKAY.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, SO HOW OFTEN DO Y'ALL GIVE THE TEST EVERY 18 MONTHS? WELL, IT SHOULD BE GIVEN EVERY 18 MONTHS.

UM, THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT IT, WHEN IT'S GIVEN ROUGHLY EVERY 18 MONTHS.

UM, BUT YEAH, INITIALLY THE EXAM WAS SENT OUT THROUGH THE, UH, IMPROPER CHANNEL.

AND I MADE IT A POINT TO HAVE IT SENT OUT THROUGH PROFIT CHANNELS, AND IT WAS SENT OUT DEPARTMENT WIDE WITH A RESET DATE TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE EXAM, UH, HAVE A CHANCE, HAVE TIME TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT THE APPLICATIONS TIMELY.

AND MS. BREW THINK STAYED LATE ONE DAY.

L MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAD TIME TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATIONS.

AND SHE SENT OUT A DEPARTMENT WIDE EMAIL AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAD TIME TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION TIMELY.

SO THERE WERE TWO EMAILS ACTUALLY THAT WAS SENT OUT.

CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING? SURE.

SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS ONE EMAIL ON THE 17TH AND THE SECOND EMAIL WASN'T SENT OUT.

I WENT BACK AND DOUBLE CHECKED AND THE POSTING OF IT, IT WAS POSTED AT HEADQUARTERS.

IT WASN'T POSTED AT SECOND.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE AN EXCUSE.

I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY.

I DID NOT SEE THAT EMAIL ON THE 17TH.

SO IT'S JUST, IT'S ME ASKING, I WOULD LIKE TO NOT BE PUSHED BACK BEHIND MY CLASS.

IT'S ME ASKING FOR THAT.

UM, BUT IT WAS SENT OUT ON THE 17TH AND I, I DID NOT SEE IT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, BUT, AND I HATE TO SAY NO, BUT I, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE OPENING OURSELVES UP TO FUTURE APPLICANTS WHO MISSED THEIR TEST HAS TO BE APPROVED.

THE TIMELINE IS, IS THERE SO THAT THE SECRETARY HAS TIME TO

[00:15:01]

PREPARE FOR THE MEETING, GET EVERYBODY'S APPLICATION APPROVED AND SENT TO THE STATE EXAMINER'S OFFICE TO MAKE A LIST OF QUALIFIED APPLICANTS.

AND, UH, I'VE MISSED TESTS FOR MYSELF.

I KNOW HOW IT FEELS SO THAT I MOVE THAT WE NOT ALLOW HIM TO TAKE THE TEST CUZ HE MISSED THE DEADLINE.

RIGHT.

IS THERE, ARE THERE, I WOULD SEC I WOULD SECOND THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TWO PROBLEMS HERE.

CAUSE ONE, UM, IS THAT WE'D BE SETTING THE PRECEDENCE THAT WE'D HAVE TO FOLLOW IN THE FUTURE.

BUT ALSO I THINK WE ARE VIOLATING THE LAW AND THIS BOY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE POSITION OF VIOLATING THE LAW.

SO I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION BASIS.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, MOVING ON

[9. Schedule Appeal Hearings ]

TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, SCHEDULING OF APPEAL HEARINGS FOR, UH, SERGEANT KAMALA.

KAMALA KA.

WELL, I THINK WE CAN START WITH, UH, OFFICER, UH, CORPORAL MATTINGLY SINCE MR. OBVIOUS HERE AND THEN OFFICER WADE HILL.

CAUSE I THINK HE HAS THAT ONE AS WELL.

HE DOES.

I DO.

AND I JUST MAKE SURE THE RECORD'S CLEAR THAT I, I AM NOW ENROLLED COUNSEL, UM, AT YES, SUBSTITUTED OUT MR. KHAW, UM, DISCUSSIONS BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING WITH, UH, MR. RAINS.

I'D LIKE TO DEFER SCHEDULING WADE HILLS AT THIS TIME.

I'LL NOT NOTIFY THE BOARD OFFICE IF WE COULD PROCEED WITH, UH, MATT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPEALS ON THE DOCKET NOW, SO NEXT YEAR IS A FRESH START.

UH, WE CAN START SCHEDULING IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

OKAY, GENTLEMEN, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A PREFERENCE BETWEEN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY ON MATTINGLY? NOPE.

I DON'T HAVE NO PREFERENCE.

GET A MOVEMENT.

WE POSSIBLY GET YOU FEBRUARY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO FEBRUARY MEETING FOR MATTINGLY.

WE'RE GONNA DEFER ON WADE HILL.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE BUSINESS YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THIS, FOR US.

YES, SIR.

WHAT IS YOUR DATE, YOUR FEBRUARY? UH, I'LL LOOK BUT 27.

27 LOOKS GOOD.

YES.

THANK YOU.

GOOD DEAL.

SO ARE WE AGREEING TO DELAY WADE HILL? YES.

WAIT, ON THE, YES, THAT ONE HAS SOME OTHER ISSUES ATTACHED TO IT.

UM, NOW WE HAVE SERGEANT KENNETH KALO.

NOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, THERE ARE THREE ACTUAL CASES RELATED TO SERGEANT UH, KALOS APPEALS.

SO IT'S THREE DIFFERENT APPEALS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT BASED ON THE BOARD'S DECISIONS AT THE LAST MEETING, SERGEANT KALO HAS APPEALED ONE OF THOSE DECISIONS.

SO IT'D PROBABLY BE PRUDENT FOR THE BOARD NOT TO SET THAT PARTICULAR APPEAL, I BELIEVE IS NUMBER 13.

UM, MR. RAINS CAN FILL US IN, BUT AS FAR AS THE OTHER TWO, UM, HOW IS MARCH SOUND FOR THE OTHER TWO APPEALS? WHAT DO WE HAVE? JANUARY THAT'S FREE, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE JANUARY.

UM, MR. KERSHAW MENTIONED HE MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR JANUARY.

THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING, UH, MARCH.

YEAH, THAT WAS MR. KERSHAW'S REQUEST.

SO I SPOKE TO HIM THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND UH, HE ASKED THAT WE NOT SET IT IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

SO HE ASKED THAT MARCH BE THE EARLIEST DATE THAT WE SET CAMELO FOUR.

WHAT'S I DATE IN MARCH? MARCH.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PASSING UP OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.

WE HAVE JANUARY THAT'S OPEN.

UM, WE HAVE THREE, WELL, TWO POSSIBLE.

I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING IN JANUARY.

WE COULD, BUT HE IS SAYING, BUT MR. KHAW IS ASKING THAT WE NOT SET IT IN IN JANUARY IN FEBRUARY.

WELL, UH, SINCE WE STILL HAVE WHAT ABOUT THE, IT'S NO WAY WE COULD DO MADELINE JANUARY IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

WHAT IS, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR DATE IN JANUARY? JUST WE, I KNOW, UH, 23RD, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER MATTER

[00:20:01]

IN ANOTHER COURT ON THAT SAME DAY.

OKAY.

THAT WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTA ATTEND TO.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST TRYING TO ATTEMPT TO CLEAR SOME OF THIS STUFF UP.

WE HAVE OPEN DATE.

ALL RIGHT.

NO PROBLEM.

UM, SO WE HAVE A DEFERRAL ON WADE HILL.

UH, MR. MANLEY BE ON THE FEBRUARY DATE, AND THEN NOW THE ITEM NUMBER 13, NO, UH, SERGEANT CAMPBELL, WE'RE GONNA DO MARCH, MARCH 27 FOR THE OTHER TWO APPEALS.

MARCH 27, THE 20, UM, THAT ONE WE HAVE.

SO THERE'S THREE CASES.

IF, IF ONE OF 'EM GETS, WHATEVER HAPPENS NOW, WE STILL HAVE TWO.

WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN ONE DAY TO GET THROUGH TWO CASES.

UM, DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER AT LEAST HAVING PART OF THE NEXT DAY FOR US TO FINISH IF OKAY.

WE'LL TRY TO EXPEDITE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES GETTING THROUGH ONE CASE AND ONE DAY IS DIFFICULT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WITNESSES THEY INTEND TO HAVE AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THE FACT PATTERNS ARE THE FACTS AND WITNESSES AND EVERYTHING ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

SO THERE'S NO REAL OVERLAP THERE.

IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HEAR ONE AND MAKE A DECISION AND THEN HEAR THE OTHER AND MAKE A DECISION, DOES THAT MAKE YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

SO 27TH THROUGH 28TH? YEAH, WE HAVE THE 27TH, 28TH.

EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? IT'S A POSSIBILITY.

WAIT, IT RIGHT NOW MARCH.

IF THE, IF IT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE 28TH, AS LONG AS WE DON'T GO PAST O'CLOCK, WE'RE I'LL STIPULATE TO THAT.

WELL, YOU CAN SET THE END OF THE DAY TIMEFRAME.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

RIGHT? I, I TALKED TO MR. KHAW ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

.

NO PROBLEM.

SO IF EVERYONE IS GOOD WITH THAT, WE'LL CONTINUE AND GO AHEAD AND SEND IT AT MARCH 27TH AND 28TH.

DO YOU KNOW THE NUMBERS OF THE OTHER TWO OFF THE TOP? I WANT TO SAY THEY'RE 11 AND 12.

RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT BEING DONE.

WE'RE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10, MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU GO TO NUMBER 10, YOU MAY WANT TO, UH, CATCH UP ON NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY.

UM, CONSIDER AND APPROVE OR REJECT THE APPLICATION.

DEAL WITH IT.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL TABLE IT AGAIN.

SO,

[10. Conclusion of October 24, 2022, Public Hearing regarding changes to job specifications for various classifications within the Baton Rouge Fire Department]

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10, CONCLUSION OF OCTOBER 24TH, 22 AND 2022 PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE CHANGES TO THE JOB SPECIFICATIONS FOR VARIOUS CLASSIFICATIONS WITHIN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE, AT THIS TIME, WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM OCTOBER 24TH, 2022.

UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE S EDGE.

AND WILL WE CLOSE? WHY, WHY WE NEED TO CLOSE JUST FORMALITY.

CLOSE THE RIGHT, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SAYING THAT SECOND BY MR. SMITH.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSE.

MOTION PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT.

WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STATE EXAMINER, UH, ON THE TABLE AT THIS TIME REGARDING THE CHANGES TO THE JOB SPECIFICATIONS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AT THIS TIME, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, ADOPT THE OCTOBER 20, OCTOBER 4TH, 2022 RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STATE EXAMINER'S OFFICE REGARDING CHANGES TO JOB SPECIFICATIONS.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, WE MOVED IN SECOND.

WE HAVE A, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENT.

MORNING, UH, COREY BATTER FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, EIGHT 11 MERL GERSON.

UM, I'VE JUST COME UP HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR, UH, UNION PRESIDENT.

HE WAS, UH, UNAVOIDABLY DETAINED TODAY.

UM, AND HE MADE ME AUTHORIZE ME TO COME UP HERE AND JUST GIVE A BRIEF STATEMENT, UM, ON HIS BEHALF, WHICH IS BASICALLY ASKING THE BOARD, UH, TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

AND, UM, LEAVE US IN OUR CURRENT TIME AND GRADE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS 10 AND FOUR.

SO THAT'S WHAT HE ASKED ME TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK ON.

AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

IT'S MY, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEN THAT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR STATE EXAMINER DOES JUST THAT, CORRECT? NO, SIR.

NO, NO.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR THEM TO DO AWAY WITH TIME AND GRADE REQUIREMENTS IF A LARGER POOL OF APPLICANTS WAS REQUIRED, UM, IS WHAT THE LETTER ACTUALLY STATED.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER 10 AND FOUR GRADE REQUIREMENTS FOR A PROMOTIONAL AND COMPETITIVE TEST.

AND THAT'S WHAT, UM, THE

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UNION AND THE BOARD AND THE PRESIDENT HAS IS ASKING THE BOARD TO STAY WITH AT THIS CURRENT TIME.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION, UH, WE'VE COME TO Y'ALL SEVERAL TIMES ON THIS.

YES.

THERE'S SOME ONGOING ISSUES WITHIN THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS OF HOW THEY WROTE.

THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS THAT'S GONNA COME DOWN THE ROAD.

WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND GET AHEAD OF THAT.

UM, IF WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND OPEN OUR POOL.

GIVES US MORE OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE FOLKS IN GOING OUT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STATE EXAMINER.

WE WOULD ASK TO GO BACK TO PRIOR TO APRIL 24TH, 2021 TO FIX THAT VERBIAGE.

AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WITH CHANGES TO ALL THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUND, AS I SAID EARLIER, NUMEROUS ISSUES AND CONCERNS TO US THAT'S GONNA CAUSE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.

WE JUST WANNA GO AHEAD AND FIX EVERYTHING AND BRING IT BACK TO YOUR ATTENTION.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY MORE FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD ROLL CALL? WE NEED SOME DISCUSSION.

WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLE CALL VOTE.

RIGHT? WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ADOPT THE OCTOBER 24TH.

OCTOBER 4TH, OCTOBER 4TH RECOMMENDATION.

UM, WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECONDED.

PRESS SECOND BY PRESS.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN WE, UH, A YES WOULD AGREE TO THE MOTION? NO.

WOULD DISAGREE.

WE HAVE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

OKAY.

JOHN SMITH, I TRINA DOY? YES.

TO CHANGE THE, TO, TO ACCEPT THE, ACCEPT THE STATE EXAMINERS STATE, THE, THE, OH, GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL.

GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL.

YES.

YAY.

YES.

MR. ROBINSON.

YES.

MS. LEWIS? YES.

MR. WILLIAMS? YES.

MOTION UNANIM.

MR. UNANIMOUS DECISION.

MOTION CARRIES.

RIGHT? WELL GOTTA GO BACK TO NUMBER FIVE.

YEAH.

WE GOTTA GO BACK TO NUMBER FIVE TO CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE, OR REJECT THE APPLICATION.

MS. DORSEY, WHENEVER YOU TOOK THE APPLICATIONS YOU WENT THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THEY HAD ALL THE PROPER, UH, I, I DID.

I I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE SOME APPLICATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE THAT REQUIREMENT IS NOT ON THE APPLICATION.

WELL, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT THEY DID MEET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS.

YES, THEY DID.

YES SIR.

YOU CAN.

ME AND PENNY HAD THIS OUT BEFORE BECAUSE I HAD 50 APPLICATIONS UP HERE.

OH YEAH.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW FOR POLICE LIEUTENANT, BUT THOSE WERE PROMOTIONAL AND THEY ONLY SUBMITTED A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

OKAY.

APPROVE.

I'M, WHAT'S THAT MOTION? SO I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE CURRENT POLICE JOB.

OKAY.

POSITION? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

THINK ABOUT MS. SHARON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSE.

MOTION PASSES.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT.

I MAKE A MOTION OF A MOTION.

ONE SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

1111.