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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
[ROLL CALL]
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US FOR TONIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE THE ROLL CALL.
[RECOGNITION OF PLANNING COMMISSION EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR]
THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO RECOGNITION OF PLANNING COMMISSION EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR DIRECTOR HOLCOMB WILL RECOGNIZE OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR AT THIS TIME.THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION EACH YEAR IN JANUARY, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND SINGLE OUT AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR, THEIR REGULAR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
UM, I I GET TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND, AND BRAG ABOUT THAT PERSON THIS YEAR.
THE, UH, THESE CONTRIBUTIONS OVER THE PRIOR 12 MONTHS HAVE CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE SU SUCCESS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S WORK IN 2022.
I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JASMINE THOMAS, A I C P SENIOR PLANNER AND OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SHE WAS SELECTED AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR.
JASMINE'S PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE MANAGING A BROWNFIELDS PROGRAM AND ALSO COORDINATING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE OFFICE.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, JASMINE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING THE CITY PARISH SECURE A RECENT BROWNFIELDS FUNDING THAT WAS AWARDED THROUGH L D E Q.
SHE RECEIVED HER A I C P CERTIFICATION IN 2022 AND IS ACTIVE WITH THE LOCAL AND STATE AMERICAN PLANNING A ASSOCIATION ORGANIZATIONS.
ALSO, SHE WAS RECENTLY ELECTED AS A NEW CAPITAL SECTION A P A DIRECTOR STARTING THIS YEAR.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING JASMINE.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR HOLCOMB FOR THAT.
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO, TO SPRINT DIRECTOR HOLCOMB
[1. ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN]
SO, ITEM ONE IS ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN AT THIS TIME.WE'LL, LEMME TAKE A MINUTE AND JUST GO OVER THE RULES FOR THIS.
UM, WE'LL VOTE IN THE ORDER THE NOMINATIONS ARE RECEIVED.
THE FIRST PERSON TO RECEIVE FIVE VOTES WINS.
UH, I WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT COMMISSIONERS CAN VOTE FOR THEMSELF.
IF NO ONE GETS FIVE VOTES AFTER ROUND ONE, THEN WE'LL GET ROUND TWO WITH THE TOP TWO VOTE GETTERS.
THERE'S A TIME FOR SECOND PLACE, THEN THE TOP THREE VOTE GETTERS.
UH, IF NO ONE WHO GETS FIVE VOTES AFTER TWO OR THREE ROUNDS OF VOTING, WE'LL DEFER THE ITEM UNTIL NEXT MONTH.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.
FOR CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, ROSSI WASHINGTON, HIS CHAIR SECOND.
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT? SECOND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? ROSSI'S ELECTED CHAIR.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE NOMINATIONS WITH THE SAME RULES FOR VICE CHAIRMAN.
DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN? I'LL NOMINATE CLIFF GROUT.
IT'S GROS AND APRIL HAWTHORNE WITH THE SECOND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS GUYS.
WE HAVE A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR.
[2. APPROVAL OF 2022 ANNUAL REPORT]
THIS TIME WE CAN MOVE ON.ITEM TWO, APPROVAL OF THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT.
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THEN WE HAVE JEFF LUENBERGER TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME MINOR REVISIONS OF THIS DOCUMENT SINCE IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO YOU LAST MONTH.WELL, UM, IN DECEMBER WE DISTRIBUTED THE DRAFT COPY OF THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, AND WE DID EMAIL A COPY OUT IN PDF FORM AFTERWARDS.
CAUSE I HAVE NO, SEVERAL OF YOU GIVEN IT WAS DUE DECEMBER MEETING WEREN'T PRESENT.
UM, WE HAD ASKED FOR COMMENTS BY, UM, AFTER THE NEW YEAR.
UM, AND WE RECEIVED ABOUT 10 COMMENTS AND FOR THE MOST PART, THEY WERE MINOR IN NATURE.
WE MADE SOME MINOR EDITS IN THE ACTUAL PROGRESS REPORT ITSELF UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT, THE HOUSING ELEMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY DESIGN AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, REPOSITIONING OF THE, UM, OF THE LAYOUT AND WHATNOT.
ONE BIG CHANGE WAS THE COMPLETE STREET CITIZEN OF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY, WE DID ADD SOME TRACKING METRICS ON THAT AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE NEW DRAFT THAT YOU GOT.
SO IF, AND FROM THERE, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ABOUT IT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LUENBERGER? COMMISSIONER BANKS CHANGES FOR, UH, COMPLETE STREETS, WHAT NOW? COMPLETE STREETS, WHAT WERE THE CHANGES? SO THE PREVIOUS REPORT DIDN'T HAVE, IN THE PAST, THEY HAD SOME METRICS THAT THEY HAD TRA THEY TRACKED BEFORE MM-HMM.
UM, THE PREVIOUS VERSION DIDN'T HAVE THAT.
I WASN'T UNAWARE THAT THEY, THAT THEY DID THAT.
UM, SO WE WENT AHEAD AND UPDATED THE, THE METRICS FOR THAT.
FOR THE MOST PART, IT JUST INCLUDES THE, UM, IN, IT'S ON PAGE EIGHT AND NINE IF YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T WANNA LOOK.
BUT, UM, IT INCLUDES BASICALLY THE PI BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN CRASHES THAT, THAT HAVE OCCURRED JUST TO, SO WE HAVE SOME KIND OF TRACKING MECHANISMS FOR COMPLETE STREETS.
UM, SO, UM, PREVIOUSLY, UH, I'LL SAY THE, LIKE THE END OF MY, UH, I THINK MY SECOND YEAR COMPLETE STREETS WAS REALLY, REALLY INVOLVED IN, UH, DETERMINING PROJECTS FOR BEAUTIFICATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THAT INVOLVEMENT, UM, IN, IN THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL YEARS.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, AND I DON'T WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAN, LIKE I WAS JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF HOW, UM, BEFORE SOMEONE IS THAT THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM A QUALITY REVIEW BOARD FOR CATS.
AND I WAS WONDERING, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING SIMILAR AS IT RELATES TO COMPLETE STREETS BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT DATA THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROJECTS? YES.
THE, SO THE COMPLETE STREETS CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, IT'S A COUNCIL APPOINTED AND MAYOR, UM, UM, POINT OF BOARD MM-HMM.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY GOING OVER THAT, THE METRICS THAT WE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
THEY, THEY HAVE A NEW METRICS THAT THEY'RE GONNA COME UP WITH FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT 2024? THEY HAVE A NEW METRICS THIS 20, THE BEGINNING OF 25TH.
WHAT YEAR ARE WE IN RIGHT NOW? 2023.
SO IS IT, IS IT A METRICS GOING ON NOW OR THE 2024.
SO IT, WE'RE GONNA START OUR BASELINE NUMBERS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.
UM, AND SO THEN IT'LL BEGIN THE TRACK.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING.
THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON, UM, CODIFYING, CUZ RIGHT NOW THE COMPLETE STREETS, UM, POLICY IS JUST A RESOLUTION.
AND SO THEY'RE WORKING ON CODIFYING GOOD, COMING UP WITH AN ORDINANCE TO GET THAT CODIFIED.
SO IT, IT, IT BEGINS TO WORK IT OUT INTO THE DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
BECAUSE I MEAN, THE BIGGEST THING, OBVIOUSLY MOVE VR IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
UM, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS, THE STATE PROJECTS, EVERYDAY PROJECTS THAT THEY GO OUT FOR MAINTENANCE AND WHATNOT.
UM, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THINGS IS ADA COMPLIANCE AND, AND WHATNOT.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON AND GETTING IT CODIFIED.
SO, UM, YOU SHOULD SEE A LOT MORE MOVEMENT.
I WAS THINKING THE NEXT, IN THE NEXT YEAR ON MOVING SOME OF THOSE THINGS FORWARD.
SO, AND SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH TOO.
AND, AND ARE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET IT BY DISTRICT AS WELL? YEAH.
YEAH, THEY'RE WORKING ON BOTH.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT? MOVE BY COMMISSIONER BANK SECOND BY VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.
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AT THIS[3. APPROVAL OF 2023 CALENDAR]
TIME.WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE 2023 CALENDAR.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2023 CALENDAR MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SCRS? SECOND FROM, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.
[4. APPROVAL OF 2023 WORK PROGRAM]
ON TO THE 2023 WORK PROGRAM.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PROGRAM? MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LANDER? ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.
[5. PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT TO THE BREC COMMISSION]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT TO THE BREAD COMMISSION.WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.
WE'LL FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS PREVIOUSLY FOR THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
WE'LL VOTE IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE NOMINATED AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS, UH, FOR THE BREAD COMMISSION APPOINTMENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I NOMINATE RO ROSSI, WASHINGTON.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? EVAN SCRUBS? ANY OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS.
ROSSI, CONTINUE TO SERVE AS A BREAK APPOINTMENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
DIRECT THE HOLMAN AND THANK YOU, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AT
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 12TH MEETING? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 12TH ME MEETING.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SCENE? NONE.
THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
[COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE]
I'LL NOW ASK MR. LUENBERGER TO COME BACK UP TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.UM, THIS YEAR IS 2023 IS ALSO THE YEAR THAT WE DO THE FIVE YEAR UPDATE TO FUTURE BR WHICH TO REMIND YOU, THE FIRST COP, THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE FUTURE BR WAS ADOPTED IN 2011 AND WE DID A FIVE YEAR UPDATE, UM, BACK IN 2018.
SO THIS YEAR FOR THE 20 23 5 YEAR UPDATE, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS GIVEN US FUNDING FOR THE, FOR CONSULTING OUT THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS.
WE HAVE PUT OUT THAT RFQ AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT SELECTION PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A CONSULTANT PICKED BY THE END OF THE MONTH THAT, UM, CONSULTANT WILL BE IN CHARGE OF DOING THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PLAN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A SHORT INTRODUCTION VIDEO THAT WE'LL USE ON WEBSITES, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
THEY'LL DO A COMMUNITY SURVEY AND THEY'LL LEAD SEVEN TO NINE WORKSHOPS THROUGHOUT THE PARISH.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A CONSULTANT PICKED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
AND ONCE THAT GETS PICKED, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER SCHEDULE AND TIMING FOR ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA COME DOWN.
UM, BECAUSE AFTER THAT, THE ACTUAL UPDATE ITSELF IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, UM, FUTURE VRS GOALS, OBJECTIVES, THEIR ACTION ITEMS, FUTURE LAND USE, THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, UM, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THEN OTHER SUPPORTING DATA AND DOCUMENTS IN THE, THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT ITSELF.
WE WILL BE GETTING THAT, UM, GOING HOPEFULLY AT THE BEGINNING, UH, AT THE END OF THE MONTH WHEN THE CONSULTANT IS SELECTED, AND WE'LL BE DOING A PRESENTATION AT, UH, METRO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH.
IS THAT A, A CONTRACT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AS IT RELATES TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH? SO, UM, IT'S, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THE CONTRACT.
WE DID AN RFQ AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AN REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS LAST YEAR.
AND WE GOT THE SUBMISSIONS FROM THE KAONS.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS AND RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THE PURCHASING THE DEPARTMENT AND, AND IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
WHAT I WAS ASKING IS THIS THE, IS THIS A CONTRACT WE HAD PRIOR TO THIS ONE? NO, IT, THIS IS A NEW CONTRACT THAT WAS OKAY FOR THIS.
UM, IS THERE DBE REQUIREMENT OR ANYTHING? IS THERE A DBE DISADVANTAGE? BUSINESS ENTERPRISE REQUIREMENT? UM, THERE PRETTY SURE LIKE THAT'S REQUIRED IN RFQ THAT GO OUT HARDER SCORE.
THAT, THAT'S SCARY CUZ WHAT NOW? I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE, UM, IF YOU WANT A COPY OF THE RFQ, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET YOU NO, THE SCORING.
THAT HAS TO BE GONE THROUGH THE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST PROCESS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
BECAUSE IT IS A CONFIDENTIALITY
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AND THEY SAY THAT, BUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE DID THE, UH, REZONING, UM, THERE WAS A WHITE MAN WHO GOT THE CONTRACT AND HE WAS THE ONLY EMPLOYEE AND HE GOT POINTS FOR, UH, FOR HAVING MINORITY, FOR MINORITY, HAVING A MINORITY PARTICIPATION.SO THAT, THAT, THAT JUST WORRIES ME.
I, IT IT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT.
BUT, BUT I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW ALL THAT HAPPENED BACK THEN.
WHO'S PART OF THE COMMITTEE? WHO'S THE SCORING COMMITTEE? UM, THAT'S CONFIDENTIAL AS WELL.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST HOW THEY DO IT.
ALL THE SCORING PROCESSES, THE, THE SCORING PROCESS IS MADE.
SO IT, THE, THE, THE SCORES CAN'T BE INFLUENCED OUTSIDE OF THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.
SO, AND PURCHASING RUNS THAT PROCESS.
I MEAN, IT'S REQUIRED THROUGH THE PROCESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? THANK YOU MR. LUENBERGER.
[RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS]
ASK THE VICE CHAIRMAN GROW TO READ IN THE RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS, RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.ANY INTERESTED MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA MAY COMMENT IN PERSON AT CITY HALL 2022 ST.
LOUIS STREET, BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA, 7 0 8 0 2 THIRD FLOOR, ROOM 3 40 48.
DURING THE MEETING, ALL COMMENTS WILL BE BROADCAST ON WWW DOLA.GOV ON METRO 21 COX, CHANNEL 21, AND AT T CHANNEL 29.
AND ON THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE FACEBOOK PAGE VIA FACEBOOK LIVE.
COMMENTS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO 3:00 PM OF THE MEETING.
DATE WILL BE COMPILED BY POSITION FOR AND AGAINST, AND THE TOTAL NUMBER WILL BE ANNOUNCED BEFORE THE ITEMS PUBLIC HEARING, ANY INTERESTED PERSON WHO DOES NOT WISH TO COMMENT IN PERSON MAY USE THE FORM FOUND@HTTPSWWW.RLA.GOV.
PC APPLICANT AND APPLICANTS REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPOSAL WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A PERIOD OF NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES, EXCUSE ME.
THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM SHOULD REFER TO A MEETING AGENDA AND FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM.
ONCE THE ITEM IS ANNOUNCED, EACH PERSON'S NAME WAS FILLED OUT, A FORM WILL BE CALLED ON TO SPEAK.
PROPONENTS WILL SPEAK THEN THE OPPONENTS, EACH SPEAKER WILL NOT BE ALLOWED MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
THE SPEAKERS ARE REQUESTED TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS TO AVOID DUPLICATION OF THEIR PRESENTATION.
TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GRA WE CAN NOW
[CONSENT AGENDA]
MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.MR. MORAN CONSENT AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR WITHDRAWAL.
ITEM NUMBER 13, P U D 14 DASH ZERO SIX MICKENS ROAD CONCEPT PLANNED REVISION.
WERE DRAWN BY THE APPLICANT ON JANUARY 3RD, 2023.
THERE ARE NO ITEMS FOR DEFERRAL.
THE FOLLOWING ARE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.
ITEM NUMBER 15, CUP NINE DASH ZERO FOUR.
MOST BLESSED SACRAMENT SCHOOL PROPOSED NEW MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING WITHIN EXISTING CAMPUS ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY EAST OF BERINGER ROAD.
ITEM NUMBER 16 CS ONE DASH 23 JOHNNY W AND SBRA JEEP TURNER PROPERTY PROPOSED FLAG LOT SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PRIDE.
BAYWOOD ROAD, EAST OF HALL ROAD.
ITEM NUMBER 17, CS TWO DASH 23.
WARREN O WATSON IN SYDNEY, COX TRACK PROPOSED FLAG LOT SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PERKINS ROAD, WEST OF MEY DRIVE.
ITEM NUMBER 18, SS ONE DASH 23.
ETHEL D MARTIN TRACT, PROPOSED MINOR SUBDIVISION WITH A PRIVATE STREET ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH TIGER BEND ROAD NORTH OF HOSHI TWO ROAD IN ITEM 19 S SP ONE DASH 23.
PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PICARDI AVENUE EAST OF MANCUSO.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT ALL THESE ITEMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE UDC.
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WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FROM A CITIZEN TO PULL ITEMS 17 CS 2 23 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE HEARD AS A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.DIRECTOR HOLCOMB COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WILL BE TAKEN WITH ONE VOTE.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAVE AN ITEM ON CONSENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED AND HEARD AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA? DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ANYTHING? THE, THE ONES THAT WE JUST, THAT, THAT THEY JUST READ IN.
SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SCRS? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LANDER? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THESE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[Items 7 & 8]
MR. CHAIRMAN, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER.WE WILL LISTEN TO AT THIS TIME.
UH, PLAN AMENDMENT 25 22, 2100 TO 2200 MILLERVILLE ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, SPUD 2 22.
THE GATES AT MILLERVILLE, PA 25 22.
2100 TO 2200 MILLERVILLE ROAD WITH RELATED CASE SPUD 2 22.
THE GATES AT MILLERVILLE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF MILLERVILLE ROAD AND SOUTH OF HUNTERS RIDGE DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT AMOROSO.
THE APPLICANT IS MICKEY ROBERTSON.
THE CURRENT FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL.
THE REQUESTED FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL C2 WITH A REQUESTED ZONING OF SMALL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, SPUD FOR A GATED MEDIUM DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT WITH PRIVATE STREETS AND 73 LOTS PA 25 22, 2100 TO 2200 MILLVILLE ROAD WITH RELATED CASE SPUD 2 22.
THE GATES AT MILLERVILLE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON EXAMINATION OF THE AREA AT A FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES.
STAFF ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST WILL MEET THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A SMALL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BEING COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS IF THE COMPANION PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE MESSAGE OF OPPOSITION TO THESE TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS.
AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
UH, MICKEY ROBERTSON, MR. ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING 93 45 INTERLINE AVENUE.
I SPENT A, FORGIVE ME FOR USING MY PHONE.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME TODAY MAKING A LOT OF GREAT SPEAKING NOTES AND THEN I LEFT THEM ON MY DESK.
SO I'M KIND OF WORKING THROUGH 'EM HERE ON MY PHONE, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE GATES IN MILLERVILLE.
IT'S A 73 LOT, UH, SMALL PLANS UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED BEHIND THE TARGET ON, UH, MILLERVILLE AT I 12.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE ON ABOUT NINE ACRES AND IT WILL CONSIST OF 19 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND 54 TOWN HOMES.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR SITE PLANNING IS WE'VE POSITIONED THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES BEHIND THE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE PRESERVE AT HUNTERS RIDGE AND HUNTERS RIDGE SUBDIVISION.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE GATED WITH PRIVATE STREETS.
UH, WE WILL HAVE ONLY AN EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE THAT WILL GO THROUGH HUNTERS RIDGE ONLY IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, BUT ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC WILL BE ROUTED OUT TO MILLERVILLE DIRECTLY THROUGH THE MILLERVILLE COMMERCIAL SITE THAT'S THERE.
ONCE OUR RESIDENTS GET INTO THAT MILLERVILLE COMMERCIAL SITE, THEY'LL HAVE FIVE OPTIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT ON HOW TO ACCESS MILLVILLE DIRECTLY.
AND TWO OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE, UH, CONTROLLED BY A SIGNAL.
UH, WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED SLIGHTLY MORE THAN THE REQUIRED 15% OF GREEN SPACE.
UH, WE ARE REQUESTING A DOWN ZONING FROM C2 TO SPUD.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS COMMERCIAL.
WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD TO ACCOMMODATE THE TOWN HOMES.
UH, THIS WILL ALLOW THE SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A LOT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S ADJACENT TO.
UH, WE FEEL THAT THESE USES, ARE WE PROPOSING A LOT MORE COMPATIBLE THAN WHAT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT COULD BE DONE IN C2? UH, SOME PRETTY ONEROUS THINGS.
AND YOU'VE GOT FOUR STORY MULTI, UH, FOUR STORY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
YOU'VE GOT EQUIPMENT REPAIR, CABINET SHOPS, HOTELS, LOTS OF THINGS THAT COULD BE A LOT WORSE THAN, UH, JUST A A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, SUBDIVISION.
UH, WITH PRIVATE STREETS THAT YOU KNOW ONLY ACCESS DIRECTLY IS TO DIRECTLY TO MILLERVILLE.
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UH, WE HAVE PROVIDED THE REQUIRED DRAIN GYM PACK STUDY.UH, WE HAVE GONE ABOVE AND ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REQUIRED MINIMUM.
THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED IN A FEMA REGULATED FLOOD ZONE, BUT WE HAVE STILL REDUCED THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT FLOWS FOR THE 10 YEAR AND 25 YEAR STORM BY ABOUT 63%.
WE'VE ALSO DESIGNED OUR POND SUCH THAT WHEN HONEYWELL HONEYCUTT BY YOU, UH, IS KIND OF PRIMING THAT IT WILL DETAIN ALL OF THE FLOW FROM OUR SITE AND WILL BE NOTHING GOING INTO HONEYCUTT.
SO WE, WE FEEL LIKE THAT WILL IMPROVE DRAINAGE FOR THE AREA.
SAME CONCLUSION, WE'VE PRESENTED A PLAT, UH, THAT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A REZONE AND FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT AND WE ASK FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AS WELL.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSION MEMBERS, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION.
THE FIRST IS FOR DANIEL KILLEN.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, SIR.
UH, MY ONLY OPPOSITION IS IF THERE'S NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR THEM TO HAVE NO, UH, NORMAL ACCESS TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL, UH, AREAS.
UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, FROM WHAT THE, UH, PRIOR SPEAKER SAID IS THAT THERE WOULD ONLY BE AN EMERGENCY, UH, EXIT THERE, UH, FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT INTO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH IS WHERE I I LIVE.
YOU KNOW, UH, AND THE REASON FOR THIS BEING THAT IF THERE WERE TO BE NORMAL TRAFFIC THERE, UH, THAT WOULD INCREASE, UH, THE, UH, THE SAFETY RISK THERE.
UH, CHILDREN PLAY IN THAT AREA.
UH, THE STREETS ARE NOT MADE FOR A LARGE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.
UH, SO, UH, AS LONG AS THERE'S ONLY EMERGENCY AVAILABILITY OF THE STREETS, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, FINE, UH, WITH ME.
OUR OTHER COURT IS FOR JANICE CARTER.
UM, TO REPRESENT A FEW OF OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS IN, UH, THE PRESERVES AT HUNTER LAKE.
I MOVED THERE ABOUT 14 OR 15 YEARS AGO, AND THE REASON WHY I MOVED THERE IS BECAUSE IT WAS A COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ONLY FOUR STREETS.
SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN A, A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, NOISE.
AND I ASKED AROUND WHAT WAS THE NOISE ABOUT? AND THEY TOLD ME IT WAS GONNA BE A COMMERCIAL AREA THAT'S, THAT WAS GONNA BE BUILT THERE.
I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND, UH, TARGET.
I LIVE ON A STREET HUNTERS RIDGE DRIVE, WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BRING, UH, SOME TRAFFIC THROUGH.
I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT PLAY IN THE STREETS SOMETIME, AND THE REASON I'M CONCERNED OF BEING OPPOSED AGAINST IT IS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BRING IN HEAVY TRAFFIC AND, UH, MAYBE SOME CRIME.
I'M SO USED TO BEING THERE, UH, THE WAY IT IS.
AND WHEN I WENT TO TALK TO MY COUNSELOR PERSON IS A MISS, UH, AMAROSA.
WE WERE, IT WAS ABOUT 25 OF US THAT SIGNED THE, UH, PAPER SAYING THAT WE ARE OPPOSED AGAINST IT.
I TALKED WITH MR. BLAKE WHEN I MET WITH HIM, UH, AND I THINK IT WAS MR. STEVEN LAST WEEK.
AND LIKE I TOLD, UH, COUNCILWOMAN AM AMAROSA, I AM DEFINITELY OPPOSED AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE MORE TRAFFIC AND THERE'S ONLY FOUR STREETS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
UH, I WOULDN'T HAVE MIND, UH, UH, CONCERNING THE, THE, THE COMMERCIAL, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S TARGET THERE AND, AND, AND, AND LOADS THERE.
AND I JUST THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE, UH, COMMERCIAL.
BUT SINCE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABOUT 73 TOWNHOUSES, UH, THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.
IT'S GONNA BRING IN A WHOLE LOT OF NEW PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UH, MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF, WE ARE OPPOSED TO IT ABOUT 25, IT'S ABOUT 70 OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I GOT ABOUT 25, UH, SIGNATURES.
AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOUR OR FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
UH, WE CAN UNEQUIVOCALLY SAY THAT WE CAN MEET BOTH OF THE REQUIREMENTS AT THOSE.
UH, TWO RESIDENTS JUST ASKED US ABOUT, UH, ABOUT NOT HAVING ANY ACCESS THROUGH THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
AS I STATED IN THE INITIAL, THERE WILL BE NO ROUTINE ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT WILL STRICTLY BE AN EMERGENCY GATE.
EVERYTHING IS GONNA GO OUT THROUGH THE MILLERVILLE DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER SCR, I'LL, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MACON MAKING.
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CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN HOW DOES AN EMERGENCY GATE WORK? UH, SO THE, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES WILL HAVE A SORT OF AOB OR A KEY THAT WHENEVER THEY COME THERE TO, TO COME IN, THEY ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO IT SO THAT IT'S NEVER, UH, AN ISSUE.AND IT'S EVEN BUILT TO THE SUCH A WAY THAT IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO, THEY COULD JUST CRASH THROUGH IT SO THAT IT DOESN'T OFFER ANY IMPEDANCE IN A, IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE? YES, I I HAD THE SAME QUESTION.
UM, AS FAR AS THE EMERGENCY ACCESS, WH WHERE AT IS THAT GONNA BE COMING IN ON? BECAUSE I KNOW MS. UM, MS. CARTER HAD MENTIONED SHE LIVED ON HUNTER'S RIDGE DRIVE, CORRECT? RIGHT.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT ON THE PLAN, HUNTSMAN AVENUE WILL GO OUT IN BETWEEN THE TARGET AND THE BEST BUY.
SO THAT'S WHERE ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM THE DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA GO.
UH, MS. CARTER, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, SHE LIVES ON HUNTER'S RIDGE, WHICH WILL ONLY HAVE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS.
SO THERE'LL BE NO MORE TRAFFIC ON HER STREET.
THERE'S A, THAT'S WHERE THE EMERGENCY GATE IS.
UH, I I DON'T NEED TO HAVE MICKEY UP HERE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT AND THAT IS THAT I'M GONNA BE A BIT OF THE CONTRARIAN.
UM, I BELIEVE PART OF OUR MAJOR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ARE THE FACT WE DO NOT HAVE INTERCONNECTIVITY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE UDC IS TO HAVE INTERCONNECTIVITY.
AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMUNITY, UH, UH, IN FRONT DOESN'T WANT THAT, UM, I, I, I'M VERY, I MEAN, I'M, I'M VERY HESITANT.
UH, I'M GLAD WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE CONNECTION, BUT IT, TO MY MIND VIOLATES THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE UDC.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF DEAD END SUBDIVISIONS THAT ALL GO ONTO MAJOR STREETS.
AND SO THE ONLY WAY TO GET FROM, YOU KNOW, YOUR FRIEND'S HOUSE TO YOUR FRIEND'S HOUSE IS TO GET ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE JUST TO GO AROUND THE CORNER.
SO, UM, I I I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD, UH, UH, DESIGN.
UM, UH, I, I REALLY WISH WE WOULD HAVE MORE SUPPORT FOR CONNECTIVITY.
YOU, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A, UM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A, UM, I'M GONNA CALL IT.
IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A DRAG STRIP DOWN YOUR STREET.
UH, I LIVED IN, I GREW UP IN A CITY WHERE THERE WERE BLOCKS.
YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, FOUR STREETS, FOUR CORNERS.
WE STILL PLAYED IN THE STREET.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE DONE, BUT, UM, I, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AND TO, AND TO APPROVE THESE TWO ITEMS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MY 2 CENTS ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY.
IT'S TO MY MIND, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT WE DO THAT IN THIS CITY.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT TO APPROVE THESE TWO ITEMS. IS THERE A SECOND TO, TO THAT MOTION SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCRS.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SCENE? NONE.
THOSE TWO ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
[Items 9 & 10]
CHAIRMAN.THE NEXT TWO ITEMS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN TOGETHER.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL HEAR ITEM NUMBER NINE.
PLAN AMENDMENT 1 23 18 9 10 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY.
AND ITEM NUMBER 10, CASE 1 23, PA 1 23 18.
NINE 10 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY WITH A RELATED CASE.
1 23 PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD SOUTH OF COPPER MILL BOULEVARD COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE NOLAN, THE APPLICANT IS BRYANT BUTLER.
THE CURRENT FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE REQUESTED FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS TO COMMERCIAL.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS RURAL WITH THE REQUESTED ZONING TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO FOR PROPOSED RETAIL SALES OFFICE PA 1 23 18 9 10 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY WITH RELATED CASE 1 23.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARING APPROPRIATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.
STAFF ALSO CANNOT CERTIFY THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO MESSAGES AND OPPOSITION AND WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN OPPOSITION TO THESE TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
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GOOD AFTERNOON, BRYANT BUTLER, BOB BOX, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.SO WE WERE ENGAGED ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNER TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY AT OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY.
IT'S A 3.78 ACRE TRACT ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE AL TRAILS NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING UP THERE.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH, BECAUSE THIS IS A ZONE OF INFLUENCE CASE, WE WENT THROUGH ZACHARY PLANNING AND ZACHARY CITY COUNCIL.
NO OPPOSITION, NO MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND NO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OPTED TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING.
UM, SO NOW WE'RE WE'RE HERE BEFORE BATON ROUGE TEST THAT IT WOULD BE REZONED TO LIKE COMMERCIAL TWO.
UM, THIS ALL KIND OF CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE LANDOWNER ACTUALLY OPERATED A HAIR SALON ON THE PROPERTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND SHE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HER PROPERTY WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL AND WE GOT A
SHE TOLD US THAT SHE HAD SOME SORT OF VARIANCE OR NONCONFORMING USE PERMIT.
SHE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TO US.
UM, WE GOT A LETTER OF INTERPRETATION ALL THAT TO CONFIRM THAT IT WAS ZONED RULE.
AND THEN SHE ASKED THAT WE REZONE IT TO COMMERCIAL.
UM, WE KIND OF WORKED WITH HER AND LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT LIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONINGS.
WE OPTED TO GO WITH LC TWO JUST BECAUSE IT INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF FLOOR AREA ON THE PROPERTY TO 75,000 SQUARE FEET VERSUS 15,000 SQUARE FEET FOR LC.
ONE WITH A 3.78 ACRE TRACT, UM, 15,000 SQUARE FEET AND BE HIT PRETTY QUICKLY FOR THAT SIZE OF PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE ARE REQUESTING, THAT'D BE REZONED TO LC TWO, THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, UM, OUR ZONE COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN ONCE YOU GET INTO ZACHARY, THE COPPER MILL FRONTAGE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN ACROSS SCENIC HIGHWAY FROM COPPER MILL IS ALSO ZONE COMMERCIAL.
UM, THERE'S SOME NEW NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP IN THIS AREA.
WE FEEL THAT, UH, GOOD MIX OF LIGHT RETAIL AND MAYBE GARDEN OFFICE WOULD, WOULD BENEFIT THE SURROUNDED COMMUNITIES.
I SPOKE WITH BRYANT DIXON, WHO'S PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR ZACHARY.
UM, AND HE VERBALLY MENTIONED TO ME THAT THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA.
AND SINCE I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL CARDS, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE QUESTION AND COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION BEGINNING WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS.
DID YOU TALK TO COUNCILMAN NOEL? I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH HIM YET, NO.
HAS THERE BEEN AN AN ATTEMPT TO NO, THAT MIGHT BE YOUR FIRST PROBLEM.
WHAT, UH, UN I MEAN, HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THE WAY OLD, UH, SCENIC HIGHWAY WITH THE RETAIL ALONG THAT STREET, MINI AREA HOUSES IN THE BACK.
WHAT, WHAT CAUSED IT TO BE DENIED? SO WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
I'VE, I'VE SHARED THAT, THAT POINT OF VIEW WITH A COUPLE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME INDIVIDUALLY ON THIS PROJECT.
ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE DEMAND ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, UH, AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY, UH, WITH THE UPDATE OF FUTURE BR WE WOULD NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, SEE, SEE CHANGES IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA AS WE LOOK AT AT, AT THIS AREA.
AT A GREATER LEVEL OF DETAIL, THE PROPERTY ON THIS SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD IMMEDIATELY NORTH, UH, THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS HIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONE G O L.
WHICH IS GENERAL OFFICE LOW RISE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, ONE OF OUR, OUR, OUR LOWER LOW LOW SCALE OFFICE ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, YOU'RE CORRECT ACROSS THE STREET IN THAT PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS SOME LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES ALONG WITHIN EXISTING, UH, LAKE AFTER HOURS CLINIC, I BELIEVE.
SO, UM, IT, IT IS AN AREA THAT, THAT, UM, POTENTIALLY IS IN, UH, TRANSITION AND HAS A DEMAND FOR FUTURE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL.
WE JUST HAVE NOT SEEN IT ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, UM, AT THE PRESENT TIME.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS.
UM, THIS BODY HAS THE DISCRETION TO, TO APPROVE IT ANY WAY THEY, THEY SEE IT.
UM, I HAVE TALKED TO THE COUNCILMAN ON THERE THAT DOES HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND THAT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR MULTI-FAMILY.
AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
SO I WONDER, YOU KNOW, IF THIS, I YES, THIS IS A PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THE COMPANION REZONING.
SO IT DOES REQUIRE COUNSEL APPROVAL.
IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR, UH, THE FEBRUARY 15TH COUNCIL ZONING MEETING.
COMMISSIONER BANKS, IF YOU COULD, I'M
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SORRY.AND, AND WHAT THE GOALS ARE, UM, FOR THAT AREA.
UM, AND AS HE INDICATED IT, IT MAY, IT MAY BE NOT NOW, BUT UM, LATER ON IT MAY BE JUST A DELAY.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE, LIKE THE NUMBER ONE THING YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR REZONE, IS GET WITH THAT COUNCILMAN CUZ USUALLY THEY KNOW WHAT'S AHEAD AND THEY CAN ADVISE YOU OF CARDINAL AND YOU WON'T WASTE A LOT OF TIME OR MONEY.
UH, IT WAS FUN THING I, I DID HEAR THAT WAS NOT OFTEN HEARD WHEN IT COMES OUT OF THE ZACHARY RECORDER IS THAT WE GOT THE SPIRIT OF INFLUENCE.
WE GOT THE COUNCIL, WE GOT THE MAYOR, WE GOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OVER THERE APPROVING SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN, HAD THEM BEFORE US MANY TIMES BECAUSE OF ITEMS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE PERIPHERAL OF CENIC HIGHWAY OR ANYWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS USUALLY THE OPPOSITE, WHICH MAKES IT VERY STRANGE THAT WE ARE HERE.
THAT EVEN OUR COMMISSION IS SAYING WE DON'T MOVE FOR APPROVE OF THIS.
BUT IT IS NOT VERY OFTEN WE HEAR PROJECTS IN THAT CORRIDOR TO WHICH THE, THE COUNCIL, THE PLANNING DIRECTORS, ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE IS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
I MEAN, AND, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS CAUSE I WAS ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS WHO MET TO TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS AND WHAT IT WAS DOING AND THE IDEA THAT IT IS, UM, IT COULD POTENTIALLY PUT A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THERE.
IF THAT IS, IF THAT IS NOT YOUR INTENT, THEN CERTAINLY EXPRESSING THAT TO THE MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, WHETHER HE'S A FORWARD OR AGAINST IT.
BUT WAY I'M WEIGHING INTO THIS IS THAT NOT OFTEN DO WE HEAR OF THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND AND HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND TOUR THE AREA.
AND IT IS ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE THAT IT'S NOT ALREADY COMMERCIAL LIKE THE LADY SAYS SHE BELIEVED.
AND IF YOU DRIVE DOWN OEN HIGHWAY, WHEN YOU SEE WHAT YOU SEE, YOU'LL BE HARD TO THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL ON THAT PART OF SENIOR HIGHWAY.
FOR THAT REASON, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, IF IT PASSES THIS BODY, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND HAVE YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM.
BUT THEN IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL AND AT LEAST IT'LL BE OUT OF THIS BODY FOR WHICH WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO GO HAVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS' DISCUSSION AND PEOPLE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOUR HURDLE WOULD BE GETTING THE MEMBER WHO SAYS TO THIS BODY OF THIS COUNCIL, UH, TO APPROVE IT.
I MEAN, SO THAT, FOR THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THERE'S A, UH, WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER ELER.
SO, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY OCCUPYING THIS PROPERTY NOW THAT BELIEVED IT'S COMMERCIAL OR THEY NO LONGER YES.
THEY OPERATED A HAIR SALON WITH SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL PERMIT.
THEY TOLD US, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER, ARE THEY STILL OPERATING RIGHT NOW? NO, THEY'RE NO LONGER OPERATING IT.
THEY PLAN TO MOVE FROM THE PROPERTY.
THEIR HUSBAND JUST DIED AND IT'S A LOT OF PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN, SO.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, IS THERE ANY I, YOU KNOW, IDEA WHAT'S ONE Y'ALL, IS THERE AN IDEA WHAT YOU WANT PUT HERE? I MEAN, OR JUST A THIS IS THE REZONING TO SELL IT.
THIS IS JUST THE REZONING ITSELF.
THE IDEA WOULD BE LIGHT RETAIL AND IN OFFICE, NOT MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, THAT WAS KIND OF THEIR INTENT THAT THEY HAD DISCUSSED WITH US.
LC TWO IS JUST KIND OF A ALL-ENCOMPASSING COMMERCIAL ZONING.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT DOES PERMIT MULTI-FAMILY, THAT IS NOT THE INTENT WHATSOEVER.
UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, WHAT IS, UM, THE UNIT DENSITY THAT WOULD BE APPROVED FOR LC TWO OR WHAT, WHAT'S PERMITTED FROM LC TWO AS FAR AS UNIT DENSITY? DO WE KNOW APPROXIMATELY 29 UNITS IN AGRE.
I THINK FIRST, UH, WE DID HAVE A COM, A FLOOR, UH, MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? WE CAN ENTERTAIN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, UH, FROM THAT.
THERE'S A SECOND TO THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE COMMISSIONER.
UM, UM, COMMISSION, I MEAN, UM, RYAN, WHAT IN, IN HAVING THE DISCUSSION, IF THE CONCERN IS THE, UM, THE MAL FAMILY, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN, WHAT WOULD BE A, WHAT WOULD BE A ANOTHER, UM, ALTERNATIVE THAT THE COUNCILMAN AND THE DEVELOPER MAY BE ABLE TO DISCUSS? THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL OPTION IF THE APPLICANT AGREED AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL TO, AND, AND I CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH COUNCILMAN, NO.
LOWRISE IS THE SAME ZONING CATEGORY OF THE PROPERTY, UH, ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH GENERAL OFFICE.
LOWRISE ALLOWS OFFICE, UM, IT, IT DOES ALLOW MULTI-FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL, BUT 50% OR MORE OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT HAS TO BE OFFICE.
SO THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT IT CAN'T BE A TRADITIONAL MULTI-FAMILY
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DEVELOPMENT BY RETAIL.IT, IT WOULD ALLOW SOME, SOME LIKE COMMERCIAL IN RETAIL.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE AN OPTION.
UM, WE HAVE A LOWER SCALE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THE LIMITATIONS ON THERE WOULD BE I THINK, TOO SMALL.
I, I'LL CERTAINLY HELP COORDINATE A MEETING OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE COUNCILMAN, I'LL, I'M GLAD TO BE A PART OF THAT.
SO I, UH, YEAH, UH, AS IT RELATES TO WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN ADDISON, I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME LEVERAGE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
UM, THAT'S WHY HE'S THE SMARTEST PERSON HERE.
BUT YEAH, I, I, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT PART DEVELOP AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND IF THAT WILL, UM, FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION.
BE OPEN TO THOSE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS.
COMMISSIONER BANKS, VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW.
WELL, I, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF, IF, UH, THE DIRECTOR IF, OR ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT IF, UH, GOING TO A DOWN ZONING NOW WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL GET BEHIND.
BUT, UH, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT, UH, UH, THIS, THIS NEEDS, THIS IS GONNA GO TO COUNCIL AND, AND YOU HAVE BASICALLY A MONTH, UH, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
SO, UM, IF, IF, UH, I'M, I'M GONNA LET THE MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON STAND.
BUT, BUT I AM, BUT I AM GONNA, UH, VOTE AGAINST IT.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
THAT MOTION, UH, HAS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
UH, OKAY, WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL, THERE'S A, UH, VOTE IN OPPOSITION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT, AN ADDITIONAL FROM COMMISSIONER ER.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, VOTES OF IN OPPOSITION OF APPROVING THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.
THOSE ITEMS, THOSE TWO ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED
[11. TA-8-22 Industrial Districts]
AT THIS TIME.WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11, TEXT AMENDMENT 8 22 INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO AMEND THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO REVISE CHAPTER NINE, USE REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY SECTION 9.28, TABLE NINE G PRINCIPLE USES ALLOWED IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
AT THIS TIME, I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO SPEAKER, NO SPEAKER CARDS, UH, OPPOSED OR IN SUPPORT? I WILL GIVE YOU A ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND ON THIS.
STAFF HAS CERTIFIED THAT THE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THIS PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT WAS INITIATED AT YOUR SEPTEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO REVIEW THE ALLOWABLE USES IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
UH, THE EXISTING PROVISIONS IN THE UDC GOVERNING BOTH M ONE AND M TWO HAVE CREATED UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BY NOT REFLECTING THE HISTORICAL PRINCIPLE USES ALLOWED IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS.
PROPERTY ZONED M ONE AND M TWO TYPICALLY HAVE EXISTING OFFICES AND COMMERCIAL USES.
A PREVIOUS TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, DONE YEARS AGO PULLED SOME OF THOSE USES OUT.
THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO FURTHER REVIEW TO, UH, REPLACE SOME OF THOSE OFFICES.
SPECIFICALLY COMMERCIAL, UH, BOTH LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES BACK IN THESE TO REMOVE INCONSISTENCIES AND NUMEROUS NONCONFORMITIES A ACROSS THE CITY PARISH.
THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WAS REVIEWED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ALSO SHARED WITH THE GROWTH COALITION AND THE FEDERATION OF CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS.
BOTH, UH, REVIEWED THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT AND, UH, HAD NO OPPOSITION.
WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS ITEM FROM VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW.
THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.
[12. Case 78-22 10925 Tams Drive]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12.CASE 78 2200 925 TAMS DRIVE CASE 78 20 2009 25.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TAMS DRIVE, EAST OF GREEN OAK DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX DUNN JR.
THE FUTURE VR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, A ONE WITH A REQUESTED ZONING FOR TWO FAMILY, A 2.9 FOR A PROPOSED TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE CASE 78 22 1 0 9 25 TAM'S DRIVE.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
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COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.WE'VE RECEIVED TWO MESSAGES AND OPPOSITION FROM THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
THE LAST TIME WE GOT TOGETHER WAS LAST YEAR.
UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED? WE ARE, I REMEMBER SENDING K 78 22 FOR THE ADDRESS, TEN NINE TWENTY FIVE TAMS DRIVE, UM, TO MOVE IT FOR, TO REZONE IT FROM AN A ONE TO AN A 29.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO, UM, KIND OF BRING BACK LIFE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, SINGLE RESIDENT HOMES HERE, ESPECIALLY ON THE CORNER HERE AS A GOOD PROPERTY TO KIND OF BRING BACK FAMILY MEMBERS.
THERE'S A PARK RIGHT ACROSS THE CORNER THAT I GREW UP IN AND IT WAS REALLY FULL OF LIFE, UM, LIKE 12 YEARS AGO WHEN I GREW UP AROUND IT.
UM, I KIND OF JUST WANT TO SEE, UM, IT BEING BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE, MORE KIDS BEING PLAYED AROUND AND, UM, PLAYING IN THE BRIGHT PARK.
UM, AND TO ALLOW FAMILY MEMBERS TO, UM, THE ACCESS TO BE CLOSER TO A, UM, A PUBLIC PARK THAT ISN'T TOO FAR AWAY SO THAT THEY CAN KNOW THAT THEIR KIDS AREN'T GOING TOO FAR.
UM, AND THEN WITH A COUPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA, IT WOULD BE A GOOD, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO NOT, UM, BE SO FAR AWAY FROM THEIR KIDS.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, SPEAKER CARDS.
SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM, UH, COMMISSION MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BANKS.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS.
SECOND, SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FROM, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
I'M, I'M, I'M GOING TO AGAIN, BE THE CONTRARIAN.
I, I DON'T SEE A REASON, UH, TO MOVE THIS TO A 29.
UM, IT'S ALREADY A ONE, EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS A ONE.
YOU DO HAVE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET, BUT, UM, THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS, IS, UH, AN OUTLIER.
UH, YES, YOU DO HAVE THE PARK, BUT, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE OR A TWO-FAMILY HOUSE, UH, IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE PARK IN ANY WAY.
AND I AGREE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME BACK, BUT I HAVE A VERY HARD TIME WITH THAT MUCH A ONE THERE, UM, TO, FOR, FOR, FOR THIS, FOR THIS TO BECOME, UM, UH, I, I CAN JUST SEE THIS STARTING AT DOMINO AND I, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT.
SO I'M, I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA OPPOSE THIS.
I'M, I'M GOING, I'M GONNA, UH, VOTE NOW.
VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRATH, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.
UH, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THE COUNCILMAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, AREA AND, UH, THIS PROJECT? WE DID GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF THE COUNCILMAN ON THIS ITEM.
UH, IN MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM, HE, HE EXPRESSED SOME, SOME GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
AND WAS THAT UNABLE TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT, UM, DIRECTLY ON THIS ITEM? I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE APPLICANT WANTS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE IF THEY WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNCILMAN, BUT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE COUNCILMAN, UH, WAS CONCERNED AND, UM, EXPRESSED HIS OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM WHEN HE SPOKE TO ME.
I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSION BANKS HAS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO AGAINST MY COUNCILMAN.
UH, THE ONLY REASON I WANTED TO SPEAK ON IT BE IS I ACTUALLY WORK AT A SCHOOL IN THE AREA AND I'VE NOTICED THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE MOVED, HAVE CHANGED WHERE, UM, BASICALLY A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS PROBABLY, UM, EITHER CAN'T AFFORD OR, UM, ARE MORE LENIENT TO A HIGHER DENSITY IN HOUSING.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I, YOU KNOW, WAS THINKING, UM, THAT IT WAS A GOOD MOVE.
AND I'VE SEEN, UM, DEVELOPMENTS NOW, UH, WHERE I MEAN THAT THE, THAT ARE, UM, TWO FAMILY THAT ARE REALLY NICE WITH COVERED CARPORTS.
YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN YOUR PLANS, BUT, UM, I SEE WHERE A LOT OF MILLENNIALS ARE MOVING, UM, TOWARDS THIS KIND OF HOUSING.
SO MY THOUGHT PROCESS PROCESS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT HAVE IN YOUR, YOU DID SPEAK WITH COUNCILMAN DUNN? YES, MA'AM.
WE DID SPEAK, UH, BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
HE'S A, I KNOW HE IS UNDERSTANDING, HE'S A BUSY MAN.
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TODAY ON THE PHONE.WE DIDN'T GET THE CHANCE TO MEET IN PERSON MM-HMM.
UM, AND HE JUST HEARD THEIR CONCERNS AND KIND OF JUST SIDED WITH HIM.
I DO BELIEVE, UM, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, HE MAY HAVE THOUGHT THE SAME WAY THEY DID MM-HMM.
I DIDN'T, I ACKNOWLEDGE THERE WAS TWO, TWO CALLS OR EMAILS WE RECEIVED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS IN, IN OPPOSITION.
DID YOU SHARE WHAT THE, UH, WE HAVE 'EM AS PART OF THE PUBLIC FILE.
I I CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO YOU.
UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT, UH, BRAVE ENOUGH, UH, AS COUNCILMAN ADDISON TO UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ONCE IT COMES TO COUNCIL WITH, UH, A FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH COUNCILMAN, UM, WITH COUNCILMAN DUNN AND EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS IF YOU HAVE PLANS OR WHATEVER.
UH, CUZ HE IS A BUSINESSMAN AND HE UNDERSTANDS.
SO I DON'T THINK I, AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT SEE TODAY, BUT WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL RIGHTFUL.
UM, I WILL PROBABLY GET BACK TOGETHER WITH HIM TO TRY TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN.
SO WE JUST WANT TO SEE, UM, IT BE CONVERTED TO A MULTI-PROPERTY, A, UH, MULTI-FAMILY HOME SO THAT THEY'RE MULTI-FAMILY ON THAT LOT.
SO THAT, AND ACTUALLY, UM, AS I SAID, I WORK IN THAT AREA.
THERE ARE, EVEN IN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THERE ARE MULTIPLE FAMILIES LIVING IN THOSE HOMES FOR THE SAME REASON PROBABLY THAT YOU ARE INDICATING AND THERE'S A LOT OF VACANCIES IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND, AND SO I SEE ALL THIS AND I CAN ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND, UH, THE NEED.
BUT I THINK THAT IS A CONVERSATION, UM, THAT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO REALLY EXPLAIN HIM.
AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
CAUSE I TRAVEL THOSE ROADS EVERY DAY.
TO BE CLEAR, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS, DID YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION OR, OR, OR DOES IT STAND? OKAY.
SO WAS THERE A MOTION ON, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THERE WAS.
YEAH, YOU, YOU, YOU MADE THE INITIAL MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO YOU, YOU, YOU AT THIS TIME WISH TO WITHDRAW, DRAW THAT MOTION THAT BEFORE YOU WITHDRAW, GO AHEAD AND MAKE, OKAY.
AND, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME, UH, HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE.
UM, MY QUESTION IS FOR, UH, MR. PEREZ, YOU WANNA COME BACK TO THE, YOU MAY JUST WANT TO HANG AROUND THE PODIUM UNTIL WE WRAP THIS THING UP, MR. PEREZ
SO AS, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UM, THIS CURRENT PROPERTY, UM, IS IT A CURRENT HOUSE RIGHT NOW? YES, MA'AM.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEMOLISH IT, CORRECT? UH, WE HA I HAVE THE PLANS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THEM.
UM, THE, UM, PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS, UM, HAD THAT CRITERIA, MAN, I THINK IT'S A 7,025, UH, 72, 7,250 SQUARE FOOT LOT AREA ON THE PROPERTY.
AND SO TO BE ABLE TO PUT A DUPLEX ON IT AND TO, UH, KIND OF DEMOLISH A PART OF THE HOME TO HAVE THAT AREA SPACE ON IT TO, UM, BE ABLE TO HOUSE TWO FAMILY UNITS THERE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT, UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING JUST SINGLE, I THINK IT'S A FOUR BEDROOM HOME, BUT IT'S JUST A LOT OF SINGLE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
SO WE WANT TO KIND OF, WE'RE ENCOURAGING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA REMODEL THE PROPERTY TO WHERE IT'S MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING SINGLE PEOPLE WITH NO, YOU KNOW, NO KIDS NEXT TO A PARK AND LIKE THE SCHOOLING AREA, JUST TO GIVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ANY FAMILY WHO ARE LOOKING TO KIND OF MOVE CLOSER TO THE SCHOOL FOR THEIR CHILDREN OR TO LIKE A PARK, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO, SO YOU OWN THE PROPERTY? UH, MY FATHER DOES.
DID UM, HE LIVE THERE AT ONE POINT OR? WE STILL LIVE THERE.
THEY CURRENTLY LIVE, UH, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
I, LIKE I SAID, I GREW UP HERE ABOUT LIKE, IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS.
I'M STILL AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I, UM, 12 YEARS AGO IS WHENEVER I GREW UP, LIKE WAS PLAYING AROUND IN THE PARK.
UM, I, I'M KIND OF A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, BUT THE, THE FACT THAT, UM, IT IS LIKE A, A ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
I, I DON'T KNOW, TO ME IT SORT OF SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE LIKE WE'RE APPROVING LIKE A SPOT ZONING.
UM, IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I UNDERSTAND.
IT'S KIND OF WHERE, AND IT'S, THE CORNER MIGHT'VE BEEN, IT'S FROM THE CORNER OF TA'S DRIVE AND GREEN OAKS AND YEAH.
UH, AND THEN, AND JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE PICTURES, YOU KNOW, THE AREA OF
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THAT COMMUNITY IS ESTABLISHED AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL OPPOSITIONS.I'M, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY THOUGHTS, UM, ABOUT THIS AS IT AS IT RELATES TO WHY ARE WE, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO PUT A SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT THERE, UM, ALREADY IN LINE WITH A ONE, YOU KNOW, ON THE CORNER.
SO IF THAT WAS MY HOUSE NEXT DOOR, I WOULDN'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, SINGLE MY FAMILY ON THE CORNER.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA BE AGAINST IT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE.
ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? I TOO CAN APPRECIATE, UH, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
UH, BUT I DO SHARE, SHARE SIMILAR CONCERNS TO, UH, THOSE THAT WERE PRESENTED BY, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GR AND BY COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE, UH, ABOUT THE, UH, THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE EFFECT THAT, UH, APPROVING THIS, UH, COULD HAVE DOWN THE LINE.
SO I, I WON'T BE ABLE TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS EITHER.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT ARE OPPOSED TO IT.
SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO, UH, DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
BEFORE WE DO THAT, ARE, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ON THAT? YEAH, THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY ON IT IS, IS IN LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THERE ARE APARTMENTS THAT'S ZONE, I THINK C ONE OR C2.
UM, AND, AND THEN, I MEAN, YOU DROPPED DOWN AND DO A GOOGLE STREET VIEW AND YOU KINDA LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I, I, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO INVEST DOLLARS THERE I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD THING.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK ANY DOLLAR INVESTED IN THAT PART, UH, OF BATON ROUGE, YOU KNOW, WOULD SEE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT NEEDS IT.
AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
AGAIN, I I, I WILL STAND BEHIND MY SECOND, UH, ON THE MOTION, UH, AND I'LL STILL VOTE, VOTE IN FAVOR, BUT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, THEIR, THEIR CONCERNS, UH, AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHY THEY WOULD BE OPPOSED TO IT.
BUT, BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND IF YOU DON'T GET IT TIGHT, I WOULD TELL YOU TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP WORKING TOWARDS IT.
SO THERE'S, UH, NO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL AT THIS TIME.
THIS WILL BE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON ITEM 12, CASE 78 22 109 25 TAMS DRIVE THE MOTION IN THE SECOND WAS TO APPROVE CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON.
THAT ITEM FAILS WITH A, UH, THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES AND SIX OPPOSED.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL GO ON TO COUNCIL.
THAT COUNCIL MEETING IS TOMORROW JANUARY 18TH.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH BACK OUT WITH YOUR, TO YOUR COUNCILMAN.
UH, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME TO DO THAT.
AND WE, AND BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANT TO, UH, REMIND DIRECTOR HOLCOMB THAT HE DID, UH, CALL SOMEBODY BY AN INCORRECT NAME.
SO I'D LIKE HIM TO BE A LITTLE MORE FORGIVING IF THAT WOULD EVER, EVER TO HAPPEN TO HIM AGAIN.
[14. TND-1-07 Rouzan, Concept Plan Revision 16]
THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14, TN D 1 0 7 RUANNE CONCEPT PLAN REVISION 16 TND 1 0 7 RUANNE CONCEPT PLAN.REVISION 16 PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PERKINS ROAD, EAST OF GLASGOW AVENUE COUNCIL, DISTRICT 12 ROCCO.
THE APPLICANT IS INQUEST RUANNE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, LLC.
THE FUTURE VR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT T AND D.
THE REVISION PROPOSES TO INCREASE THE PATRONAGE OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, ADDING LOT THREE A TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, AND INCREASING THE TOTAL COMMERCIAL OFFICE AREA FROM 100,000 SQUARE FEET TO 165,000 SQUARE FEET.
T AND D 1 0 7 RUANNE CONCEPT PLAN REVISION 16.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEANS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICE HAS RECEIVED TWO MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, AS WELL AS ONE MESSAGE OF SUPPORT FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
I'M NOT SITTING HERE TYPICALLY AS THE LAWYER.
I'M ACTUALLY THE DEVELOPER OF RUANNE.
AND, UM, UH, VERY, UH, INTERESTING THAT, UH, DAY AFTER TOMORROW WILL BE THE FOURTH ANNIVERSARY OF OUR
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ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY.UM, WE ARE ASKING THAT THE EXISTING CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS PASSED IN 2007, UH, 15 YEARS AGO AND THE 2008 ORDINANCE, UM, BE AMENDED TO INCREASE THE CAP FOR COMMERCIAL USES FROM 100,000 TO 165,000.
UH, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF RUTHANNE, THERE WERE 33 ACRES THAT WE BOUGHT.
AND MR. SPINOZA, THE PRIOR DEVELOPER, HAD 4.3 ACRES THAT HE RETAINED.
UM, WE WERE GENERALLY AWARE OF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, UH, CAP, BUT WHAT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF IS THAT PRIOR TO OUR ACQUISITION ON THE 4.3 ACRE TRACK, AND REMEMBER, WE BOUGHT 32 ACRES.
UM, UH, MR. SPINOZA HAD ALREADY CONSUMED 49% OF THE ENTIRE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT CAP, LEAVING US WITH 1500 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL FOR EACH OF THE COMMERCIAL ACRES.
UM, UH, BECAUSE OF A LONG-STANDING RELATION, POSITIVE, LONG-STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH WILL GLADNEY, WHO HAS BEEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WILL ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO ME VERY EARLY AND SAID, WE KNOW THAT THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND ISN'T GOING TO WORK FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT DO YOU NEED? AND FOR YEARS, ALMOST FOUR YEARS, UM, WE'VE SAID, WE DON'T KNOW AND WE DON'T WANT TO ASK FOR AN EQUALLY ARBITRARY NUMBER AS A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LET'S LOOK AT THE USES WHEN WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO, UH, BURNING OFF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
UM, RIGHT NOW WITH THE, UH, SIX FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN TO 18,517, UH, SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, SO ON, ON JUST 6.87 ACRES.
NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 18,000, UH, SQUARE FEET LEFT.
AND WE HAVE ARLAY THE LAKE THAT'S OPENING UP A FAMILY CLINIC, WHICH IS VERY, VERY WONDERFUL USE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY NEED, UM, 18,400 SQUARE FEET.
SO IF YOU TAKE THIS MAP I JUST SENT YOU AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S IN YELLOW, THOSE ARE THE AREAS WITHIN RUANNE THAT WE PRESENTLY DO NOT HAVE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON.
THERE ARE FIVE LOTS, AND WHEN I LAY THE LAKE WILL COME TO YOU FOR THE CLINIC, IT WILL, WILL COMPLETELY TAKE ALL OF THE REMAINING, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, CAP.
SO FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY COLLABORATIVELY, VERY POSITIVELY WITH THE BOARD OF THE SOUTHSIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND WORKING TOWARD WHAT'S THE RIGHT BALANCE OF WHAT WE NEED TO FINISH RUELLE.
AND WE WANTED TO DO THAT BY TELLING THEM THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WOULD GO ON THE REMAINING FOUR, UM, LOTS THAT YOU SEE IN YELLOW.
UM, THE BOARD, UH, ALLOWED ME TO MAKE A FORMAL PRESENTATION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
THEY VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT AFTER, UM, THE, THEIR FIRST MEETING.
AND THEN THEY CAME BACK WITH AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST, WHICH MADE PERFECT SENSE TO US THAT INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA APPROVE 65,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND RIGHT NOW THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET ISN'T ASSIGNED TO ANY PARTICULAR PROPERTY, IT WAS JUST A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR WHAT WAS THEN 37 ACRES.
UM, THEY ASKED US TO IDENTIFY EACH OF THE FIVE LOTS THAT ARE LEFT AND TO ASSIGN THE, UH, VALUE FOR EACH.
AND IT WAS REAL SIMPLE AND IT MADE PERFECT SENSE TO US.
THEY DIDN'T WANT, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE PRIZE CORNER OF, OF, UM, PERKINS AND GLASGOW, VERY IMPORTANT CORNER FOR US AND FOR THEM, THEY DIDN'T WANT US TO BUILD A FIVE STORY, 65,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, AND WE WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE THAT.
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THAT IS WE LOOKED AT EACH OF THE FIVE LOTS AND WE ASSIGNED A PORTION OF THE 65,000 SQUARE FEET, ALL OF WHICH WAS ACCEPTABLE TO US.AND, UM, THEY VOTED, AND I HAVE PUT INTO THE RECORD, UM, THEIR, UH, SUPPORT OF THE 65,000 SQUARE FEET THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WITH THE ALLOCATIONS, UM, THAT WE HAVE, UH, TALKED ABOUT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, A WHAT WAS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL DEVELOPMENT WORKING HAND IN HAND, UH, WITH THE LARGEST, UM, HOMEOWNER, ONE OF THE LARGEST HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, UH, IN THE PARISH.
VERY, UH, VIGILANT IN TERMS OF WHAT GOES ON, UH, IN, IN AND AROUND, UH, THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WE HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND WITH THAT, I WOULD, UH, ASK YOU FOR THAT SUPPORT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DEVELOP RUANNE AS WHAT WE, UH, I MODESTLY FEEL IS THE PREMIER, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN THE PARISH.
AND I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS.
AND I'VE GIVEN YOU SOME INFORMATION THAT'S MORE TECHNICAL THAN YOU PROBABLY NEED.
BUT IT'S ALSO AN INDICATION IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE MATERIALS THAT I SENT TO YOU BY EMAIL AND I HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS IS THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION THAT WE DISSEMINATE ANYTIME THAT WE, UH, WORK WITH THE SOUTHSIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
WE RECEIVED A CALL TODAY FROM THE PRESIDENT OF, UM, WOOD, UH, UH, GATE.
WOOD CHASE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ALL RESOLVED, AND THEY'RE NOT HERE IN OPPOSITION.
SO, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY WANTS TO SEE THESE RESTAURANTS IN ADDITIONAL RETAIL AND SERVICES.
UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE GOT THEIR SUPPORT.
WE HAVE ONE, UH, ADDITIONAL CARD THAT IS IN SUPPORT, UH, FROM JACQUES WAGGA SPECK, BUT HE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
WE HAVE ONE CARD THAT IS IN OPPOSITION THAT IS FOR MARLET, A COACHELLA MARIET.
HELLO, COMMISSIONERS? YES, MA'AM.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
UH, I THINK IT WAS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC THAT WE HAD, UM, REVISION 14, WHICH WAS, UM, MR. LANDRY WAS RELINQUISHING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN ORDER TO GET 55 ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL LOT.
AND AT THAT TIME, OUR, UM, CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WHICH NEVER WORKS WITH US ON SWEET BRIAR, APPROVED THAT.
SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED WHY WE'RE BACK AGAIN TO GET THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT I BELIEVE WAS TRADED OFF FOR 55 ADDITIONAL LOTS IN ROSEANNE RESIDENTIAL LOT.
WE ARE CAUGHT IN A SPIDER'S WEB.
WE HAVE PTH, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY, WHICH COMMISSIONER GROUT LOVES IS NOW A DEAD END BECAUSE WE HAVE LITIGATION WHERE I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SQUATTING ON THE PROPERTY THAT HIAS SYNTH WOULD RUN THROUGH, WHICH IS FIGHTING THE STREET RUNNING THROUGH.
SO EVERY SINGLE CAR FROM WOOD CHASE AND PHASE, I BELIEVE NINE AND 10, 10 IS, I BELIEVE COMING UP SOON.
NINE IS ALMOST COMPLETED, COMES DOWN SWEET BRIAR.
WE CAN'T GET ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE.
WE CAN'T GET ADDITIONAL 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGNS.
I'VE JUST, UM, SENT A LETTER TO COUNCILMAN ROTA AND SHE WAS TRYING TO WORK WITH, UM, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO GET US SOME RELIEF.
EVERY TIME PERKINS BACKED UP, IT ALL FUNNELS DOWNWOOD CHASE AND COMES DOWN THROUGH SWEET BRIAR.
WE'RE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT WANNA PLAY ON OUR STREETS.
ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY RESTAURANTS IS GOING TO BRING MORE TRAFFIC DOWN OUR STREET BECAUSE WE ARE CONSIDERED A CUT.
THEY SPEED DOWN OUR STREET AT NINE, 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
IF WE GET MORE RESIDENTS AND MORE RESTAURANTS, THIS IS ONLY GONNA INCREASE.
HE COULD HAVE HAD THE COMMERCIAL SPACE AT, UH, REVISION NUMBER 14, BUT HE TRADED IT OFF FOR 55 ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO WHY ARE WE GIVING HIM BACK COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT HE RELINQUISHED? I THINK THIS
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WAS EVEN PRE PANDEMIC.WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR YEARS AND WE NEVER EVER HAVE A WIN.
AND SOUTHSIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE OF GLASGOW OR LEE BECAUSE THEY LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE.
THEY'RE NOT AFFECTED BY THIS IN THE LEAST, ESPECIALLY GLADNEY.
NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE FEEL WHAT WE FEEL.
THE TRAFFIC, THE SPEEDING, THE DENSITY.
IT'S JUST WHEN DO WE GET A BREAK? THANK YOU.
IT JUST, THEY KEEP APPROVING EVERYTHING AND THEY NEVER EVER ASK US.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
JUST FOR SOME CLARIFICATION THAT, UM, WE, WE CERTAINLY DID REMOVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF WHAT WAS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL IN EXCHANGE FOR 50 A MERE 55 ADDITIONAL LOTS.
UM, WE WERE AT 750, BUT THAT WAS AT THE REDUCTION OF WHAT WE WOULD'VE ASKED FOR, UH, TODAY IF ALL OF THAT REMAINED COMMERCIAL.
SO OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SOUTHSIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION WAS TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF AREA THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR BECAUSE WE WERE CONVERTING WHAT WAS PRIOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL.
IF WE HAD NOT UNILATERALLY CONVERTED WHAT WAS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL, WE PROBABLY WOULD BE HERE ASKING YOU FOR 250,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, I AM VERY SYMPATHETIC, UM, TO, UM, WHAT THIS, UH, YOUNG LADY'S CONCERN IS.
UH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN RAA ASKED ME IF I WOULD HELP SUPPORT, UM, GETTING ADDITIONAL, UH, SIGNAGE, UM, MAYBE SOME, UH, STREET CALMING, UH, FEATURES ON, ON, UH, HER STREET.
UM, WE, UH, HIRED A, A, UH, OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICER, UH, TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD STOP SPEEDING IN ROUSSANNE.
AND EVERYONE THAT WAS TICKETED WAS COMING FROM THE CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD MR. GROUT, WE WANT CONNECTIVITY.
UM, BUT THE CONNECTIVITY, IT COMES AT A, AT A PRICE.
AND WE, WE ARE THE ONES IN THE MIDDLE.
THEY'RE COMING FROM ONE END AND GOING THROUGH THIS WOMAN'S NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE HIGHEST LITIGATION RESOLVES ITSELF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR MASTER PLAN PROVIDES THAT WE HAVE HITH CONNECTING TO, UH, RUTHANNE.
UH, BUT THERE'S, UH, AND I THINK THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS, UH, STATED AND GIVEN AN OPINION THAT HITH HAS BEEN DEDICATED.
I THINK THAT'S CORRECT, RIGHT, RON? UM, BUT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS TO THAT LITTLE, UH, SEGMENT OF, UM, HITH ARE OBJECTING TO THAT POSITION.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WANTS TO CONNECT IT, WE'RE GONNA CONNECT IT, UH, BUT IT'S IN LITIGATION.
SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE TRADE IT OFF COMMERCIAL SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK FOR MORE COMMERCIAL TODAY.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE, THE NATURE OF THE ALLOCATIONS, IT'S VERY LOW DENSITY OF COMMERCIAL ON THESE REMAINING LOTS.
AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
MR. LANDRY, CAN YOU COME BACK FOR A SECOND, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
ONE THING, I, I DID UNDERSTAND THE, THE SPEAKER TO SAY THAT YOU, OF COURSE YOU TRADED OFF A PORTION OF YOUR COMMERCIAL IN THE FIRST PLACE TO GET ADDITIONAL MEASLY 50 SOMETHING MORE LOTS.
UM, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER YOU TRADED OFF IN? 15? I THINK IT'S 15 OR 14 REVISION.
I WOULD, I'D SAY MISS AND I, THIS IS GONNA BE A GUESS I'M GONNA SAY IT WAS PROBABLY 15 ACRES.
UM, AT LEAST THAT MUCH, AT LEAST HALF OF WHAT? UM, WE, WE HAD MAYBE 12 TO 15 ACRES.
SO TECHNICALLY YOU TRADED OFF THE LOT TO NOT, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS NOT, CUZ YOU SAID THERE WAS 70, 85% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAD ALREADY BEEN BUILT OUT.
SO, SO THE ACREAGE FOR THE FOOTAGE
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WOULD'VE BEEN A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.AND IF YOU SAY A 85, SO ABOUT 85,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE WOULD'VE RUN OUT A LONG TIME AGO.
SO THE ACREAGE OF A TRADE OFF WAS NOT COMMISERATE TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A TRADE OFF.
SO, SO THERE WAS NOT WHY IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE THAT WOULD BE TECHNICALLY THE CASE.
I AGREE THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL BECAUSE THE ACREAGE IS WHAT YOU TRADED OFF, BUT IT WAS NOT THE MEMBER, IT WAS NOT, YOU GAVE UP 50,000 SQUARE FEET IN EXCHANGE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT BECAUSE YOU MADE THIS, THE STATEMENT THAT AT, WHEN YOU ACQUIRED RUANNE, 87% OF THE, OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE HAD ALREADY BEEN BUILT OUT.
COMMITTED, COMMITTED, COMMITTED.
KIND OF SAME KIND OF PROCESS WITH ME.
WHAT I, WHAT I DID DO, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR, AT YOUR, YOUR MAP, THE LATEST ONE YOU GAVE ME, I LOOKED THROUGH YOUR CONCEPT PLAN, BUT THE LATEST ONE YOU JUST PROVIDED US INDICATES THAT I, I WANT TO GET THE RIGHTS LOTS AND THE RIGHT NUMBERS.
TRACK NUMBER R Z THREE B FOUR, YOU'RE INDICATING THAT THERE IS A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT CAP ON THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL? THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU, YOU, YOU ALSO INDICATED THAT YOU HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND THEY, IN THIS CASE, OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE SIGNED OFF ON THESE PARTICULAR CHANGES HERE.
AND THE NUMBERS TO ME, I'VE ADDED UP DON'T COME TOGETHER.
SO THEY DO NOT HELP, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT PART YEAH.
OF HOW THEY AGREE TO A CONCEPT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE FUZZY AND THERE THAT, THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
SO WHAT, WHAT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE REALLY, WE WENT TO MEET WITH HIM THE FIRST MEETING.
IT WAS 165,000 SQUARE FEET WHEREVER YOU WANTED IT.
THEN THEY CAME BACK AND HE SAID, LET, AND, AND, AND SO WE'RE CLEAR IT'S A HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE, A HUNDRED SIXTY 5,000 SQUARE FOOT TOTAL.
BUT THAT MEANS I'M ONLY GETTING 83,571 SQUARE FEET LEFT.
I'M, I'M NOT GETTING 165 NEW SQUARE FEET BECAUSE WE, WE'VE ALREADY CONSUMED, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THIS SCHEDULE, YOU, YOU CAN SEE WE, WE'VE ALREADY CONSUMED ALMOST, UM, WELL IT'S 81,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THAT WE INCREASED 65,000.
BUT THEN THEY CAME BACK, MR. ADDISON, AND I'M TELLING YOU IT'S VERY SMART OF YOU.
THEY CAME BACK AND UM, UH, MS. MS. BANKS ALREADY SAID THAT EARLIER THIS EVENING, UM, THAT THEY WANTED SPECIFIC CAPS ON EACH LOT.
WELL, WE SAID, OKAY, WE'LL PUT THESE SPECIFIC CAPS, UH, BUT THE SPECIFIC CAPS, WHEN YOU ADD 'EM TOGETHER, EXCEED THE TOTAL REMAINING BY 800, UM, 832 SQUARE FEET.
I I YOU YOU HAVE IT AND I'M SURE 8 29.
SO ONCE WE HIT 165,000, THAT'S IT.
SO EVEN THOUGH A LOT COULD HAVE MORE AS A CAP ON A PARTICULAR LOT, ONCE WE HIT THE 1 65, WE, WE CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE.
YOU IT, IT'S USE IT OR LOSE IT.
AND IF WE GET TO 1 65, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A PERFECT EXAMPLE, IF ON THE RESTAURANT DISTRICT THAT WOULD HAVE 21,000 WOULD BE THE CAP FOR THAT DISTRICT.
IF WE HAVE ON OTHER TRI TRACKS GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE THAT 8 3830 WAS NOT AVAILABLE, YOU CAN'T HAVE 21,000 SQUARE FEET, IT WOULD BE 20,180,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT, IT, IT IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED.
WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
UM, WE ACCEPTED THEIR REQUIREMENT.
UM, BUT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE INDIVIDUAL LOT CAPS, THEY'RE 830 SQUARE FEET MORE THAN IF YOU ADD 'EM ALL UP TO GET 165.
WE WERE JUST TRYING TO COOPERATE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO UM, I MAY GET BACK WITH YOU FOR A MINUTE.
I'D LIKE THE YOUNG LADY TO COME BACK TO THE MIC FOR A MINUTE CUZ SHE SAYS SOMETHING I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
CAUSE I DID HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
WHY DON'T YOU ASK YOUR OTHER QUESTION? NO, YOU GO FIRST.
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GO FIRST.UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL THAT IF MR. LANDRY WANTS THIS SO BADLY THAT WE HAVE, IS IT CALLED A QUID PRO QUO THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT GO THROUGH UNTIL WE GET THE HIGHEST SYNTH CONNECTION? BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT WHEN COUNCILMAN RAA, COUNCILWOMAN RACA DID REACH OUT TO, UH, MR. LANDRY, HE SAID, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT HIAS SYNTH CONNECTION.
THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME.
SO IF WE WANT CONNECTIVITY, WHICH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE NO DEAD ENDS, LET'S HAVE A TRADE OFF, GIVE SWEET BRIAR SOMETHING OUT OF THIS INSTEAD OF JUST MORE DENSITY, LET US HAVE AN ADDITIONAL STREET SO THAT WE ARE NOT THE BOTTLENECK.
GET THAT HIIN FIRST AND THEN WE CAN HAVE ALL THE RESTAURANTS HE WANTS.
I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE ON TO THE COMMISSIONER.
I WILL APPRECIATE YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
YOU MENTIONED IN EARLIER IN YOUR REMARKS THAT UM, THE PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW THE TWO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS NOR THE SPEAKERS FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT MR. LANDRYS ALREADY INDICATED THE ONE THAT WE OFTEN HEAR ABOUT.
YOU SAY THEY DON'T SPEAK FOR THE EAST SIDE OF GLASGOW, THEY DON'T SPEAK FOR YOUR SIDE.
WHO DOES SPEAK FOR SWEET BRA? WE, ME.
OH, SO YOU DO AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR AS A COMMUNITY OR AN ORGANIZATION? HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU GUYS SPEAK IN TERMS OF YOUR OPPOSITION? I UNDERSTAND.
I RESPECTFULLY, ONE PERSON, I SPEAK FOR MY NEIGHBORS.
MY NEIGHBORS ARE JUST SO WORN OUT WITH THIS.
THEY'VE BEEN FIGHTING IT FOR YEARS AND I'M KIND OF NEW TO IT BECAUSE I MOVED THERE AFTER THIS WAS ALREADY DECIDED.
BUT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN ORGANIZA AN ORGANIZATION.
WE JUST GET BULLDOZED BY THE S S C A EVERY SINGLE TIME BECAUSE THEY NEVER SPEAK FOR US.
I I I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS CAUSE I'VE, I'M, I'M, I KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
I I, I'M, I'M VERY INTRICATE EVOLV IN HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT TOOK PLACE.
AND OF COURSE I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, LIKE MR. LANDRY SAID, I KNOW A, A GREAT DEAL OF DETAIL HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS, UH, BACK, BACK IN THE DAY.
UH, TWO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU THOUGH, CHARLES.
DO YOU HAVE ANY VISION, I KNOW YOU CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE CRYSTAL BALL TODAY, BUT CAN YOU, AS A DEVELOPER, AS A PERSON ENGAGE IN THIS? DO YOU HAVE ANY FUTURE VISION OF COMING BACK FOR ADDITIONAL CHANGES OR INCREASES OF SQUARE FOOTAGE OR CHANGE IN ANY NO SIR.
THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T GO FORWARD UNTIL NOW BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET IT ALL ON THE TABLE IN A VERY TRANSPARENT WAY ONCE AND FOR ALL.
CAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ANSWER.
THE NEXT ONE I'M GONNA ASK, BUT FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU IS, I KNOW WE ARE IN LITIGATION WITH THE CONNECTIVITY ISSUE, UH, WHETHER IT WAS PRIOR DEVELOPER OWNER WHO SUING, WHEN, WHEN ENGAGED IN THAT ASPECT, YOU ARE COMMITTED REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT WAS MR. SPINOZA WHO MADE THOSE PRIOR COMMITMENTS OR OF ANYONE ELSE IN THE FUTURE, THAT IF CONNECTIVITY IS GRANTED BY THE COURTS OR THIS SUITS IS DISMISSED, THAT YOU ARE GONNA BUILD THE CONNECTIVITY THAT THIS LADY IS TALKING ABOUT.
AND I THINK MR. HOLCOMB WILL TELL YOU THAT'S PART OF THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS IN FROM 2007.
I JUST WANNA QUESTION MAKE SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE NOT GONNA, SHE SAID QUICK PRO QUO, THEY DO THE QUICK PRO QUO BECAUSE EVEN IF HE COMMITTED TO IT, IF THE COURT SAY THEY DON'T HAVE NO REASON FOR THE CONDEMNATION OR THEY DON'T DO IT, THEN HE'S GONNA BE LEFT OFF NOW AFTER THAT OBLIGATION.
SO TO STAND HERE TODAY AND SAY, I COMMIT TO IT AND THEN THE COURTS DECIDED OTHERWISE, THAT'LL BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME.
I BUT IF THE COURTS DETERMINE THAT, THAT THIS CONNECTIVITY AND, AND SMART STREETS IS A PART OF THE PROCESSES FOR THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT YOU AND YOUR DEVELOPER ARE COMMITTED TO LIVING TO THAT OBLIGATION THAT WAS MADE BY MR. ESPINOZA.
AND I WILL SAY FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, CUZ I, THERE WAS A MISCHARACTERIZATION OF SOMETHING THAT SHE DIDN'T HEAR BECAUSE IT WAS A CONVERSATION I HAD DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN AND THIS YOUNG LADY WASN'T THERE.
UM, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO MAKE THAT CONNECTIVITY.
WE WERE MAKING THE CONNECTIVITY, IF YOU LOOK AT PHASE EIGHT AND NINE, THE ROAD IS THERE, BUT WE ARE PREVENTED FROM MAKING THAT CONNECTIVITY BECAUSE OF ONE PROPERTY OWNER ALLEGING THAT A DEDICATION, NOT BY MR. SPINOZA, BUT BY DR.
FORD BEFORE MR. SPINOZA WAS NOT VALID.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION EMPHATICALLY YES.
I THINK THAT ANSWERS THAT, THAT QUESTION BOTH ON THE COGNITI C PART, BUT ALSO
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I HOPE IT ADDRESSES THE CONCERN THAT THE, THAT THE LADY HAD.FINALLY, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND THIS IS ONE YOU CAN'T ANSWER.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S HERE TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, I, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IS SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO REPRESENT, THAT'S WHY I SAID YOU MIGHT NOT CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME.
UH, BUT YOU NEGOTIATED WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT THESE NUMBERS AND, AND I DID TALK TO THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T ADD UP.
I MEAN, THEY'RE A LITTLE FUZZY MAPPED HERE AND, AND THAT, THAT WAS A LITTLE CONCERN OF MINE.
BUT IF THEY AGREE TO CERTAIN THINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THEY CAME UP TO THIS AGREEMENT OTHER THAN WE GONNA LEAVE SOMEBODY OUT.
I CALLED IT MUSIC CHAIRS ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO IF, IF THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT USES THEIR 20,000 SQUARE FEET AND SOMEBODY ELSE USES A 21,000 SQUARE FEET GONNA GET TO A NUMBER AT THE END THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET LEFT OUT.
THE LAST PER THE LAST LOT, THE LAST ONE ENDS GONNA GET LEFT OUT.
THE LAST LOT WILL HAVE 832 SQUARE FEET LESS.
BUT HERE'S A PART OF THAT PROCESS, THAT CONCERN, UNLESS, UNLESS ONE OF THE LOTS DOESN'T USE ALL OF THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE.
WELL, I THOUGHT THEY COULD NOT CHANGE OVER, THEY COULDN'T CHANGE.
IT'S A MAXIMUM OF, SO LIKE IF YOU TAKE THE RESTAURANT DISTRICT, IF YOU TAKE THE RESTAURANT DISTRICT, LET'S SAY THE RESTAURANT DISTRICT GOES NEXT, IT SAYS 21,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE RESTAURANT DISTRICT ONLY USES 18,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S LESS WE CAN'T EXCEED, THEN THE LAST PERSON WOULD GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT THEY WANTED BECAUSE SOMEBODY DID NOT USE IT.
YOU, YOU, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.
NOW FINALLY, I'M NOT GONNA ASK YOU THAT.
IS ANYBODY HERE DO THAT REPRESENTS THE SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION? I ASKED THAT QUESTION LAST TIME I ASKED ABOUT MR. GLADNEY, I WAS VERY POINTED IN WHY WASN'T THEY HERE.
BUT OF COURSE, TONIGHT WE'RE HEARING ANOTHER, ANOTHER ITEM, ITEM 16 REVISION.
AND AGAIN, I WOULD ASK THAT SAME QUESTION I ASKED BEFORE, WHY ISN'T THE GUYS WHO SAY NEGOTIATED WHAT YOU HERE FOR THIS PUBLIC BODY? I MEAN, THEY, THEY, THEIR CREDIBILITY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE NEGOTIATIONS I'M NOT PRIVY TO THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S, I CAN'T ASK PEOPLE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE NOT PRESENT.
WELL, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES IS THE PERSON WHO'S A LAWYER.
I HAVE CIRCULATED, HE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY AND IS NOT HERE TODAY, BUT SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU.
AND I'VE COPIED AS MANY OF Y'ALL AS I HAVE INFORMATION I UNDERSTAND AND AM SENSITIVE TO YOUR YOUR QUESTION, BUT THOUGH THEY'RE NOT HERE.
I SEE THAT YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE NOT HERE.
MY, MY, AGAIN, I ASKED THE STAFF TO LOOK AT HOW THE NUMBERS WERE CALCULATED.
I KIND OF, AND I SAY AGAIN, MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF THEY AGREE TO 20,000 ON ON PARCEL, UM, RZ 3 84 AND THE OTHER FIVE LOTS, AND THIS IS A CAP NUMBER, THEN WHY DON'T WE MAKE THAT NUMBER 16 1 65 8 0 8 29.
THAT'S WHAT'S LACKING THE 8 29.
UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER DISCUSSIONS WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING IN TERMS OF THIS, UM, THIS ITEM, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION AT THIS POINT THAT IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE INCREASE, UM, FROM THE 100,000, SAY ADDING 65,000, THAT WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT 165,000 8 29 AND CAP THOSE NUMBERS, AS THEY SAID AT 2020 1,005,000, 20,018, 18, UH, FOUR.
AND I KNOW YOUR DISCUSSIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD WITH THEM, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERN OF THAT, THAT ITEM BEING CAPPED AT THOSE NUMBERS AT EACH ONE OF THOSE FIVE PARCELS? UH, MR. ASON, JUST AS YOU ASKED ME TO MAKE AN ABSOLUTE COMMITMENT, I MADE A COMMITMENT TO, I UNDERSTAND TO THE SOUTH SIDE CIVIC ASSOCIATION THAT I WOULD CAP THIS AT 1 65.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CON THE COMPLEXITY WITH THIS.
I UNDERSTAND OTHER THING NOT ADDING UP.
WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION VERY, UM, FRUITFUL DISCUSSION, UH, WITH MR. HOLCOMB AND HIS STAFF.
BUT, UM, I, I WANNA SAY, I WANNA LIMIT IT TO 1 65 BECAUSE THAT'S OKAY.
DOES IT MAKE IT EASIER TO GO LOOK AT THE RIGHT COLUMN ONLY? ABSOLUTELY.
I LIKE, AGAIN, I LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE MAKE IT 1 65 8 29.
AND OF COURSE, YOU'VE ALREADY INDICATED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS OF MAKING ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO THIS.
AND I HOPE THIS CAPSID IT AND THIS BRINGS IT TO AN END.
AND RESIDENTS HAVE GREATLY SATISFIED.
UH, I'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AS I'VE DONE IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS TO TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF IT AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT YET.
BUT I LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND HOPEFULLY MY COLLEAGUES WILL AGREE WITH ME.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON WHILE THERE WILL BE, UH, ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A SECOND, UH, TO THAT MOTION AT THIS TIME? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS.
I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME, UH, COMMENTS FROM VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW.
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CHARLES, CAN YOU COME BACK UP FOR A SECOND? YES.YOU HAVE, YOU, YOU HAVE COMMITTED, YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO 1 65.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE ME AGAIN HERE TONIGHT SAYING I'M NEVER COMING BACK ON, ON THIS ISSUE.
NOW I KNOW YOU SAID, AND I'M NOT COMING BACK ON RESIDENTIAL.
WELL, I I KNOW YOU ALSO SAID THAT YOU'RE CAPPING THESE, THESE, UH, LOTS AT THESE NUMBERS.
BUT THEN YOU SAID, WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, IF THIS ONE ONLY COMES IN AT 18,000, YOU YOU, YOU CAN USE THAT EXTRA 800 FEET, NO.
THEN BECOMES INTO PLAY BECAUSE COMES INTO PLAY.
BUT YEAH, IF THESE PEOPLE OVER HERE IN, UH, UH, RZ THREE BRAVO FOUR ONLY USE 16,000 OF THEIR 20,000, THAT OTHER 4,000 DOESN'T GET ALLOCATED TO SOMETHING.
IT'S USE IT OR LOSE IT AND THE CAP IS 1 65.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE CUZ I'M NOT AS SMART AS HIM.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY CRYSTAL CLEAR IN MY SIMPLE LITTLE ANSWER.
UM, WITH THAT, UM, I I I I'M GONNA LEAVE IT AT 1 65.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON IS DOING, BUT YOU HAVE A COMMITMENT, SO I CANNOT SUPPORT MOVING IT FORWARD TO, TO EVEN 800 SQUARE FEET MORE IF I UNDERSTAND.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR PROBLEM TO DEAL WITH.
SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, UH, I'M GONNA OPPOSE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT MOTION.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON, WOULD YOU MIND CLARIFYING YOUR MOTION? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, AS I STATED TO MR. LANDRY, THE NUMBERS OF COURSE DON'T ADD UP.
AND THE CAP THAT WE DEALT WITH DOES NOT ADD UP TO THE NUMBERS.
THAT IS PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT THE RESIDENTS APPARENTLY AGREED UPON, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY AGREED UPON.
THE, THE CAP WAS BASED UPON THE USAGE IN EACH ONE OF THESE PARTICULAR PARCELS OF PROPERTY THAT HE OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
IT CLEARLY DELINEATES HOW MUCH THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGES ARE TO BE USED IN THAT PARTICULAR PARCELS.
I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S, WHETHER IT'S THE, THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT OR THE RESTAURANT DISTRICT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
AND THE NUMBERS SHOULD REFLECT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE.
IF YOU MAKE AN AGREEMENT, AT LEAST MAKE THE AGREEMENT MAKE SENSE? AND I'M NOT HERE TO KNOCK MR. LANDRY MAKE AN AGREEMENT WITH PEOPLE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT AS WE AS A GOVERNMENT WHO DOING WHAT WE DO, WE NEED TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT WE DOING.
EITHER WE GONNA APPROVE IT OR WE NOT GONNA APPROVE IT.
AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND SO I'M CLEAR ON WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I STATED.
AND HE MADE AN AGREEMENT FOR WE AS A GOVERNMENT.
WANNA BE SURE WHAT THIS IS? WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? IT'S 1 65 8 29 1 65.
AND AND KA EACH PARCEL AS DESIGNATED.
IT IS JUST LIKE THE, THE, THE T AND D WAS DOING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IT LEFT NOBODY TO SAY IT WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR A REASON.
SO WE DON'T COME BACK AND KEEP DOING THIS BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE PROPENSITY TO COMING BACK WHILE PEOPLE SAY WE NOT COMING BACK.
I ASKED THAT QUESTION IN RELIGION 14.
AND WE ARE BACK HERE VERY LESS THAN A YEAR LATER.
SO TO SAY WE NOT, THINGS CHANGE.
I WOULD LOVE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE C IT IS WHERE IT IS, YOU LIVE WITH IT.
AND WHEN YOU COME BACK AGAIN, I CAN EMPHATICALLY SAY I'M NOT SUPPORTING THE WHY, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN BACK HERE MULTIPLE TIMES CHANGING IT.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
I GIVE THE RESIDENT SOFT DOWNS WHAT THEY ASK FOR, BUT THIS WILL BE IT.
OKAY? THAT CAPS IT AND NOW IT'S CAPPED.
WE ALL KNOW IT'S CAPPED AND WE SAY WHAT WE CAN LIVE WITH BECAUSE WE SAID BEFORE WE CHANGE THIS, WE CHANGE THAT.
THAT'S WHY I'M GIVING CLARITY.
IT'S ONLY 829 SQUARE FEET, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE DANCE ON WHO COMES IN FIRST.
MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS.
UH, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ANY OBJECTIONS WE HAVE? WE HAVE ONE OBJECTION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ANY ADDITIONAL OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED AT THIS TIME.
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WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 17.WARREN O WATSON AND SYDNEY COX.
TRACK CS 2 23 WARREN O WATSON AND SYDNEY COX TRACK FLAG LOT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PERKINS ROAD, WEST OF MEY DRIVE COUNCIL, DISTRICT NINE HUDSON.
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THE APPLICANT IS DAVID PATTERSON.THE FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD AND MIXED USE.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS RURAL AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS FOR A FLAG LOT SUBDIVISION WITH TWO LOTS CS 2 23 WARREN, OH WATSON AND SYDNEY COX TRACK FLAG LOT STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICE HAS RECEIVED ONE MESSAGE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
UH, DAVID PATTERSON, 67 30 X CHECKER DRIVE, BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA LAND SOURCE INCORPORATED REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THE SUBDIVIDING FROM ONE LOT TO TWO, ROUGHLY ONE LOT TO TWO ROUGHLY EQUAL SIZE LOTS.
AND, UM, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THE, THE ONLY REASON WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE THIS IS A FLAG LOT.
THE, THE WAY THE LOTS ARE ARRANGED.
UM, I'M ALSO JOINED BY GEORGE KERR.
UH, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE SUBDIVIDING, ABOUT THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, MR. KRS CAN ADDRESS INC UH, CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE OR QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT WITH WHAT LITTLE WE KNOW ABOUT IT.
UM, MR. KS AND I BOTH HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN HUDSON.
UM, AND AFTER ANSWERING HIS QUESTIONS, UH, HE DIDN'T SEEM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
UM, I, I'VE ALSO TALKED TO, UH, BEFORE THE MEETING, I'VE TALKED TO, UM, FOUR OF THE PEOPLE HERE THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THEY WERE NOTIFIED AS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
UM, WE, UM, IT, IT'S SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS THAT THERE IS NO, THERE'S BEEN NO ENGINEERING DONE.
THERE'S BEEN NO DESIGN WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
UH, THEY'VE NOT PRODUCED A, A SITE PLAN FOR WHAT WILL BE DONE ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, SO IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO ANSWER QUESTIONS RELATED TO DRAINING AND DRAINAGE AND TRAFFIC.
UM, NO DOUBT THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND DRAINAGE STUDIES REQUIRED, UM, AS WOULD BE THE CASE WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.
NOW INVITE, UH, MR. KES UP AT THIS TIME.
KURT, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS CUR, HAS ALREADY BEEN, UH, REZONED ONCE FOR THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THE CITY PARISH HAS ASKED THE SCHOOLS AND PARKS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO WORK TOWARDS OPEN SPACE AND WORK TOWARDS A DRAINAGE.
TO THAT END, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WOULD BE USED AS A SCHOOL AND A PARK CONCEPT, WHICH WOULD BE A COMBINATION SCHOOL CAMPUS AND A RECREATION AREA WHICH CONNECTS TO EXISTING PARKS.
THERE'S A PARK AT THE BACK OF MEADOWPARK AND A PARK AT THE BACK OF ORLEANS'S PLACE.
THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PROGRAM THAT TOGETHER AND INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY, IT WOULD LEAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE.
THEY'VE COME UP WITH A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND A COOPERATIVE ENDEAVOR AGREEMENT, BUT SO FAR THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FINAL PLAN OR DESIGN FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS, THIS REQUEST IS ONLY TO SUBDIVIDE.
AND WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME IN WITH DETAILS ABOUT HOW THE ENTRY ROAD IS GONNA BE BUILT ON THE FLAGPOLE GOING INTO THIS SO THAT YOU'LL KNOW WHAT'S THERE ON THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY.
ON THE SIDE NEXT TO ORLEANS'S PLACE, THERE'S ALREADY A VERY LARGE DITCH THAT GOES BACK TO, UH, THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND WARTS CREEK.
AND THERE WILL HAVE TO BE DRAINAGE BUILT IN WHEN THIS IS BUILT ALONG THE OTHER SIDE, EXACTLY HOW IT'S ALL GONNA BE DONE.
THAT'S GONNA BE FOR THE FINAL ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER.
UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS, BUT THIS IS A, A GREAT, UH, ORGANIZATION BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS AND THE PARKS TO JOINTLY DEVELOP, SHARE FACILITIES AND MAKE THE MOST OF A SITE RATHER THAN HAVING INDEPENDENT USES.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR MELVIN NELSON.
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OKAY.WE HAVE SEVERAL CORDS THAT ARE, UH, IN OPPOSITION.
THE FIRST IS FROM BILLY WASHINGTON.
UH, I JUST COME DOWN CAUSE MY CONCERN WAS, UH, IT WOULD BE IN, IN MY BACK DOOR.
AND I JUST USED SAY, YOU GONNA BUILD A SCHOOL.
AND I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW BIG A SCHOOL YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING BACK THERE.
AND ANOTHER CONCERN WITH MINE IS, UH, UH, WHAT YOU WAS SAYING WHILE AGO IS WAY UP THE ROAD, BUT MY CONCERN WAS THE FLOOD AREA.
YOU KNOW, OUR, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER COMING IN THERE, IN THERE NOW, AND THE CANAL THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, IT'S NOT THAT BIG.
AND, UH, WE CAN'T GET IT CLEANED OUT NOW.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IF YOU GOING TO DO CONSTRUCTION AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF PLAN YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE WATER OFF THE, OFF THE ONES THAT'S ALREADY THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY BIG CONCERN.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE 28 HOUSES ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF MERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND ALL THIS HERE GOING ALL THE, THE CANAL RUN BEHIND ALL THE HOUSES.
AND THIS GOING INTERFERE WITH THE, IF IT GOING INTERFERE WITH THE DRAINAGE, WHAT GOING HAPPEN TO US IF, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET THE DRAINAGE OUT.
OUR NEXT COURT IS FOR CAROL TIDO.
MY CONCERNS ARE THE SAME AS HIS.
THIS PROPERTY BACKS UP TO MY HOUSE AND IN MAY OF 21 WE FLOODED.
SOME OF THE HOUSES ARE STILL NOT FIXED AND REBUILT, AND THEN WE FLOODED IN 16 AND BEFORE THAT.
SO WE CANNOT STAND TO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S GONNA COME IN THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE DRAINAGE TO TAKE CARE OF THE WATER.
I, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE SCHOOL.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE GREEN AREA.
THE PARKS ADJOINING ARE NOTHING.
AND THERE AGAIN, THESE DRAINAGE CANALS AND THESE DRAINS ON THE STREET, THEY ALL GET CLOGGED UP.
WARDS CREEK BACKS UP AND IT ALL COMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT'S THE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS DRAINAGE.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR MARRA ESPANOL AGAIN.
UM, I'M HERE FOR THE SAME REASON.
UM, WE'VE BEEN THERE POSSIBLY 15 TO 20 YEARS, AND I'M SCARED WHEN IT RAINS BECAUSE WE HAVE FLOODED SO MANY TIMES.
MY MOTHER-IN-LAW LIVES IN ON MEADOW, UH, MEADOWVIEW AND I LIVE ON MEADOWBROOK.
AND THE, THE WATER HAS GOTTEN WORSE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN, UM, DEVELOPING MORE, UH, SUBDIVISIONS AND ALL THAT.
THEY HAD CLOCKED UP THE, UH, THE SYSTEM.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT WORKS, BUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED IS THAT I LOST, I'M SORRY, I HAVE LOST A LOT OF THINGS THROUGH ALL THESE FLOODS.
I DON'T WANNA MOVE, BUT I DO WANNA FIGHT FOR SUBDIVISIONS THAT DO NOT DO THEIR JOB TO FIX THE PROBLEM OF THE FLOODING.
MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, WE HAVE SO MANY TIMES FIX HER HOUSE AND SHE DOESN'T HAVE TOO LONG.
SHE'S 83, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A HOUSE THAT SHE HAS ALWAYS LIVED FOR A LONG TIME.
AND IT'S A SUBDIVISION THAT I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE AND WORSE.
LIKE I SAID, EVERY TIME IT RAINS, I'M PRAYING AND I'M SHAKING TO THINK THAT WE GONNA GET FLOODED AGAIN.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED OUR SUB, UH, OUR HOME BECAUSE WE FIX OUR MOTHER'S HOME AND HELP OTHER NEIGHBORS WITH THEIR FLOODING, UH, CONDITIONS ALSO.
SO I WANT, I WANT YOU ALL TO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IF ANYTHING IS GONNA BE BUILT AROUND IT TO PLEASE TO MAKE
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THAT EFFORT OF FIXING THE PROBLEM OF THE FLOODING FIRST.WE HAVE ONE FINAL SPEAKER CARD, UH, THAT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, AND THAT IS FOR SWAN JAY HARVEY.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS HERE.
THERE'S THE OVERALL DRAINAGE SYSTEM OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH, WHICH AFFECTS FLOODPLAIN.
IF YOU LIE WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN, YOU WILL FLOOD.
WE HAVE PROPERTIES IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS THAT NEVER FLOODED UNTIL 2016 THAT WERE IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
THEY'RE BEING DEMOLISHED AND BUILT TO A HIGHER LEVEL.
THE FLOODPLAIN WAS EXISTING BEFORE THIS PROPERTY AND WHERE THE TOPO OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE THE SCHOOL WILL BE BUILT IS ACTUALLY ON A NULL AND IS OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
YES, THERE IS RUNOFF AND THE RUNOFF GOES THROUGH WART CREEK, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN STOP ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE.
THAT'S A LONG WARTS CREEK UNTIL WAR CREEK IS FIXED OR THE WHOLE DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS FIXED.
BUT I DO FEEL THAT A SCHOOL AND A PARK CONCEPT IS YOUR BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY RATHER THAN SOMEONE TRYING TO GO IN AND DO MITIGATION, CREATE PONDS AND BARRIERS AND MAKE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
THIS IS A VERY LOW DENSITY TYPE OF USE.
UM, SO I, I, I UNDERSTAND HER CONCERNS AND I KNOW WHAT FLOODING IS LIKE.
I'VE HAD THAT IN BUILDINGS THAT WE MANAGE AND TAKE CARE OF.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING ANYONE WANTS TO DO, BUT THE OVERALL VIEW OF WHAT'S FLOODING IS FLOODING.
NOW BECAUSE OF WARS CREEK, ANYTHING THAT'S DEVELOPED ON THIS PROPERTY HAS TO FOLLOW THE DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME MITIGATION ON SITE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT THERE IS NO WAY ANY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER ANYWHERE IN THE PARISH CAN BE HELD LIABLE FOR WARDS CREEK.
IT'S FLOODED FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, LIKE WHERE THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THE LOWER END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS.
SO, UM, I, I WISH WE COULD CHANGE THAT, BUT I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION.
VICE CHAIR, MCGRAW, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT YOU WANTED TO MAKE? UM, YES.
UM, LOOKING AT THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH, THERE IS ALREADY A POND ON THE SITE, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE IS.
IT'S, IT'S UP TOWARDS THE, WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S A ORIGINAL PROPERTY.
IT'S UP IN THE CO TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE R UH, THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S NOT UNDER CONSIDERATION.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS? YEAH, I GUESS I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO, TO THIS.
SO I'M SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THIS TRACK OF LAND, UM, AND IT, IT WAS A TRACK THAT REALLY NEVER WENT ON THE MARKET AS FAR AS I CAN RECALL, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT, THINKING WHAT WOULD BE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND WHAT THE LIKELY DEVELOPMENT WAS GONNA BE FOR THAT PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE.
I WASN'T MOST CERTAIN IT WAS GONNA BE, UH, A MID DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, LIKE WHAT'S AROUND THERE, WHICH CERTAINLY WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, I GUESS CALLS FOR, FOR MORE CONCERN WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, FLOODING, TRAFFIC, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
UH, I TEND TO AGREE WITH, UH, WHAT MR. KERR SAID WITH REGARDS TO, UH, THIS IS A PRETTY LOW INTENSITY USE, UH, THE LOW DENSITY PRESERVATION OF GREEN SPACE.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS SHOULD LEND ITSELF AT LEAST TO, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A, A BETTER SITUATION WITH REGARDS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FLOODING, UH, CONCERNS OUT THERE.
UH, AND I, I'M OPTIMISTIC I MAY BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE MINORITY HERE, BUT I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ENGINEER SITES TO, TO DO A BETTER JOB AND, AND MORE EFFICIENTLY, UM, DETAIN WATER AND MOVE WATER OFF OF 'EM.
UH, SO, UM, AGAIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS ONLY A, A SUBDIVISION REQUEST.
THIS ISN'T, WE'RE NOT APPROVING SITE PLANS, ANY ENGINEERING, ALL OF THAT STILL IS TO BE, UH, PROPOSED AND VOTED ON AT FUTURE MEETING.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.
SO WITH THAT, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST TO SUBDIVIDE THE TRACK, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
BEFORE WE, UH, ENTERTAIN ANY FUTURE DISCUSSION, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
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THAT MOTION AS A SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN? UH, GROUT? UH, I KNOW COMMISSIONER ADDISON HAD JUST RAISED HIS HAND.I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T KNOW IF HE STILL HAD A COMMENT THAT HE WANTED TO MAKE.
SO MOTION AND SECOND, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? THINK NONE OF THAT ITEM IS APPROVED
[DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS]
AT THIS TIME.WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMUNICATIONS, BEGINNING WITH DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION OF THE LAST ITEM REGARDING DRAINAGE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO STICK AROUND TO, TO MAYBE HEAR SOME OF THESE, THESE TALKING POINTS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SERVED ON MAYOR BROOM'S, STORMWATER MASTER PLANS STEERING COMMITTEE THAT MET THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OF 2022 AND, AND PREVIOUS BEYOND THAT IN 2021, TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 15, WHICH IS OUR FLOODWAY FLOODPLAIN DRAINAGE AND WATER QUALITY CHAPTER OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THIS CHAPTER ARE AT YOUR SEATS FOR REVIEW.
YOU HAVE A STRIKE THROUGH AND UNDERLINE SHOWING THE CHANGES AND ALSO A BRIEFING BOOK, WHICH SUMMARIZES THOSE CHANGES.
AT A FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL, THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THESE CHANGES AT THEIR MEETING TOMORROW, JANUARY 18TH.
CHAPTER 15 IS THE ONLY CHAPTER THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL.
THE PROPOSED CHANGES WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROTECTION AND STRENGTHEN STORMWATER REGULATIONS AND HELP FURTHER REDUCE FLOODING THROUGHOUT THE PARISH.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR, OR TO WALK YOU THROUGH 'EM.
MOVING ON, THE NEXT MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH.
AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO WISH A BELATED BIRTHDAY TO OUR VICE CHAIRMAN, CLIFFORD GROUT, WHO HAD A BIRTHDAY EARLIER THIS MONTH.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS.UH, BEGINNING WITH THE, UH, LATEST EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, UH, SHANKA TAYLOR, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST IN CURRENT PLANNING.
SHE COORDINATES THE TASK MEETINGS ALL, EXCUSE ME.
SHE CO SHE COORDINATES THE TASK MEETING ALL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THIS INCLUDES ADVERTISEMENT IN THE NEWSPAPER, PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, MAILOUT AND PUBLIC NOTICE POSTINGS.
SHE ALSO PREPARES MEETING MINUTES.
SHE ASSISTS IN THE PREPARATION OF THE MATERIAL FOR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
SHE HAS BEEN A CRITICAL BACKUP WHEN NEEDED AND HAS MADE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION THAT DESERVES RECOGNITION FOR THESE REASONS.
MAHANA TAYLOR WAS SELECTED AS THE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, JOIN ME, CONGRATULATING HER.
AND AT THIS TIME, UH, I'LL JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU TO, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO CONTINUE TO SERVE, UH, AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS BODY AND AS THE, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, FOR BRETT.
UH, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE ON THIS COMMISSION, UH, WITH BRETT SPECIFICALLY.
THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE, UH, A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR GIVE A REPORT ON SOME THINGS, AND I WILL BE DOING THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE, UH, THAT, THAT BRETT DID WIN THE NATIONAL, UH, GOLD MEDAL AS A TOP, UH, FOR THE TOP LARGE PARK SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY.
AFTER PLACING AS A TOP FOUR FINALIST, SIX OUTTA SEVEN YEARS, THEY WERE FINALLY ABLE TO LITERALLY BRING HOME THE, BRING HOME THE GOLD.
SO, SO THAT WAS A GREAT THING, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY WORKING ON SOME THINGS INTERNALLY THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND ALLOWING ME TO CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS.
I, I ALSO, UH, WANT TO SECOND, UH, SAYING THANK, THANK YOU YOU FOR, UH, MY, UH, SUPPORTING ME AND, UH, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, WORKING WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND, UH, TRYING TO WORK OUT ALL THE, THE, SOME OF THE KINKS THAT HAPPENED DURING, UH, DURING THE MONTH.
AND, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND, UH, FOR ALL OF THE GOOD WORK THAT THE STAFF DOES THAT, UH, MAKES US ALL LOOK GOOD.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? IF NOT, IS THERE MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUSE, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LANDER? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU ALL AND ONCE AGAIN, HAPPY NEW YEAR.