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[00:00:04]

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

[ROLL CALL]

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US FOR TONIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE THE ROLL CALL.

MR. MORAN.

CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON.

HERE.

VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER BANKS.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER CURTIS? HERE.

COMMISSIONER ALLEN.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER STERLING.

HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AT

[RECOGNITION OF PLANNING COMMISSION EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR]

THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO RECOGNITION OF PLANNING COMMISSION EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR DIRECTOR HOLCOMB WILL RECOGNIZE OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION EACH YEAR IN JANUARY, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND SINGLE OUT AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR, THEIR REGULAR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

UM, I I GET TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND, AND BRAG ABOUT THAT PERSON THIS YEAR.

THE, UH, THESE CONTRIBUTIONS OVER THE PRIOR 12 MONTHS HAVE CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE SU SUCCESS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S WORK IN 2022.

I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JASMINE THOMAS, A I C P SENIOR PLANNER AND OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SHE WAS SELECTED AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR.

JASMINE'S PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE MANAGING A BROWNFIELDS PROGRAM AND ALSO COORDINATING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE OFFICE.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, JASMINE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING THE CITY PARISH SECURE A RECENT BROWNFIELDS FUNDING THAT WAS AWARDED THROUGH L D E Q.

IN E P A.

SHE RECEIVED HER A I C P CERTIFICATION IN 2022 AND IS ACTIVE WITH THE LOCAL AND STATE AMERICAN PLANNING A ASSOCIATION ORGANIZATIONS.

ALSO, SHE WAS RECENTLY ELECTED AS A NEW CAPITAL SECTION A P A DIRECTOR STARTING THIS YEAR.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING JASMINE.

NO.

Y'ALL GOT IT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS, JASMINE.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.

AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR HOLCOMB FOR THAT.

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO, TO SPRINT DIRECTOR HOLCOMB .

[1. ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN]

SO, ITEM ONE IS ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL, LEMME TAKE A MINUTE AND JUST GO OVER THE RULES FOR THIS.

UM, WE'LL VOTE IN THE ORDER THE NOMINATIONS ARE RECEIVED.

THE FIRST PERSON TO RECEIVE FIVE VOTES WINS.

UH, I WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT COMMISSIONERS CAN VOTE FOR THEMSELF.

IF NO ONE GETS FIVE VOTES AFTER ROUND ONE, THEN WE'LL GET ROUND TWO WITH THE TOP TWO VOTE GETTERS.

THERE'S A TIME FOR SECOND PLACE, THEN THE TOP THREE VOTE GETTERS.

UH, IF NO ONE WHO GETS FIVE VOTES AFTER TWO OR THREE ROUNDS OF VOTING, WE'LL DEFER THE ITEM UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.

FOR CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, ROSSI WASHINGTON, HIS CHAIR SECOND.

ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT? SECOND.

ANYONE OPPOSED? ROSSI'S ELECTED CHAIR.

AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE NOMINATIONS WITH THE SAME RULES FOR VICE CHAIRMAN.

DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN? I'LL NOMINATE CLIFF GROUT.

I SECOND THE NOMINATION.

OKAY.

IT'S GROS AND APRIL HAWTHORNE WITH THE SECOND.

ANYONE OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS GUYS.

WE HAVE A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR.

[2. APPROVAL OF 2022 ANNUAL REPORT]

THIS TIME WE CAN MOVE ON.

ITEM TWO, APPROVAL OF THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT.

[00:05:01]

THEN WE HAVE JEFF LUENBERGER TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME MINOR REVISIONS OF THIS DOCUMENT SINCE IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO YOU LAST MONTH.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, UM, IN DECEMBER WE DISTRIBUTED THE DRAFT COPY OF THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, AND WE DID EMAIL A COPY OUT IN PDF FORM AFTERWARDS.

CAUSE I HAVE NO, SEVERAL OF YOU GIVEN IT WAS DUE DECEMBER MEETING WEREN'T PRESENT.

UM, WE HAD ASKED FOR COMMENTS BY, UM, AFTER THE NEW YEAR.

I THINK IT WAS JANUARY 3RD.

UM, AND WE RECEIVED ABOUT 10 COMMENTS AND FOR THE MOST PART, THEY WERE MINOR IN NATURE.

WE MADE SOME MINOR EDITS IN THE ACTUAL PROGRESS REPORT ITSELF UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT, THE HOUSING ELEMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY DESIGN AND NEIGHBORHOOD.

THOSE WERE JUST MINOR EDITS.

SOME, JUST SOME SPACING.

UM, REPOSITIONING OF THE, UM, OF THE LAYOUT AND WHATNOT.

NOTHING MAJOR.

ONE BIG CHANGE WAS THE COMPLETE STREET CITIZEN OF ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THEY, WE DID ADD SOME TRACKING METRICS ON THAT AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE NEW DRAFT THAT YOU GOT.

SO IF, AND FROM THERE, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ABOUT IT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LUENBERGER? COMMISSIONER BANKS CHANGES FOR, UH, COMPLETE STREETS, WHAT NOW? COMPLETE STREETS, WHAT WERE THE CHANGES? SO THE PREVIOUS REPORT DIDN'T HAVE, IN THE PAST, THEY HAD SOME METRICS THAT THEY HAD TRA THEY TRACKED BEFORE MM-HMM.

.

UM, THE PREVIOUS VERSION DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

I WASN'T UNAWARE THAT THEY, THAT THEY DID THAT.

UM, SO WE WENT AHEAD AND UPDATED THE, THE METRICS FOR THAT.

FOR THE MOST PART, IT JUST INCLUDES THE, UM, IN, IT'S ON PAGE EIGHT AND NINE IF YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T WANNA LOOK.

BUT, UM, IT INCLUDES BASICALLY THE PI BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN CRASHES THAT, THAT HAVE OCCURRED JUST TO, SO WE HAVE SOME KIND OF TRACKING MECHANISMS FOR COMPLETE STREETS.

MM-HMM.

ON HOW THEY'RE DOING AND WHATNOT.

SO.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, PREVIOUSLY, UH, I'LL SAY THE, LIKE THE END OF MY, UH, I THINK MY SECOND YEAR COMPLETE STREETS WAS REALLY, REALLY INVOLVED IN, UH, DETERMINING PROJECTS FOR BEAUTIFICATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THAT INVOLVEMENT, UM, IN, IN THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL YEARS.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, AND I DON'T WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAN, LIKE I WAS JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF HOW, UM, BEFORE SOMEONE IS THAT THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM A QUALITY REVIEW BOARD FOR CATS.

AND I WAS WONDERING, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING SIMILAR AS IT RELATES TO COMPLETE STREETS BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT DATA THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROJECTS? YES.

THE, SO THE COMPLETE STREETS CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, IT'S A COUNCIL APPOINTED AND MAYOR, UM, UM, POINT OF BOARD MM-HMM.

, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KIND OF REVIEW EVERYTHING.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY GOING OVER THAT, THE METRICS THAT WE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

THEY, THEY HAVE A NEW METRICS THAT THEY'RE GONNA COME UP WITH FOR NEXT YEAR.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'LL BE A LOT MORE INTUITIVE FOR TRACKING AND WHATNOT.

UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT 2024? THEY HAVE A NEW METRICS THIS 20, THE BEGINNING OF 25TH.

WHAT YEAR ARE WE IN RIGHT NOW? 2023.

YEAH.

SO IS IT, IS IT A METRICS GOING ON NOW OR THE 2024.

OKAY.

SO IT, WE'RE GONNA START OUR BASELINE NUMBERS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND SO THEN IT'LL BEGIN THE TRACK.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING.

THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON, UM, CODIFYING, CUZ RIGHT NOW THE COMPLETE STREETS, UM, POLICY IS JUST A RESOLUTION.

AND SO THEY'RE WORKING ON CODIFYING GOOD, COMING UP WITH AN ORDINANCE TO GET THAT CODIFIED.

SO IT, IT, IT BEGINS TO WORK IT OUT INTO THE DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

BECAUSE I MEAN, THE BIGGEST THING, OBVIOUSLY MOVE VR IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.

MM-HMM.

AND GETTING THESE PROJECTS MOVED INTO, AND A LOT OF THE MOVE VR PROJECTS HAVE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN MM-HMM.

COMPONENTS TO IT.

UM, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS, THE STATE PROJECTS, EVERYDAY PROJECTS THAT THEY GO OUT FOR MAINTENANCE AND WHATNOT.

UM, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THINGS IS ADA COMPLIANCE AND, AND WHATNOT.

SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON AND GETTING IT CODIFIED.

SO, UM, YOU SHOULD SEE A LOT MORE MOVEMENT.

I WAS THINKING THE NEXT, IN THE NEXT YEAR ON MOVING SOME OF THOSE THINGS FORWARD.

OKAY.

SO, AND SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH TOO.

AND, AND ARE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET IT BY DISTRICT AS WELL? YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, THEY'RE WORKING ON BOTH.

OKAY.

PRETTY MUCH.

SO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT? MOVE BY COMMISSIONER BANK SECOND BY VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.

THAT ITEM IS APPROVED

[00:10:01]

AT THIS

[3. APPROVAL OF 2023 CALENDAR]

TIME.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE 2023 CALENDAR.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2023 CALENDAR MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SCRS? SECOND FROM, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.

THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

WE'LL MOVE

[4. APPROVAL OF 2023 WORK PROGRAM]

ON TO THE 2023 WORK PROGRAM.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PROGRAM? MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LANDER? ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.

THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

[5. PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT TO THE BREC COMMISSION]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT TO THE BREAD COMMISSION.

AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.

WE'LL FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS PREVIOUSLY FOR THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

WE'LL VOTE IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE NOMINATED AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS, UH, FOR THE BREAD COMMISSION APPOINTMENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I NOMINATE RO ROSSI, WASHINGTON.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? EVAN SCRUBS? ANY OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS.

ROSSI, CONTINUE TO SERVE AS A BREAK APPOINTMENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THANK YOU.

DIRECT THE HOLMAN AND THANK YOU, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AT

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 12TH MEETING? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 12TH ME MEETING.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SCENE? NONE.

THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

[COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE]

I'LL NOW ASK MR. LUENBERGER TO COME BACK UP TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, THIS YEAR IS 2023 IS ALSO THE YEAR THAT WE DO THE FIVE YEAR UPDATE TO FUTURE BR WHICH TO REMIND YOU, THE FIRST COP, THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE FUTURE BR WAS ADOPTED IN 2011 AND WE DID A FIVE YEAR UPDATE, UM, BACK IN 2018.

SO THIS YEAR FOR THE 20 23 5 YEAR UPDATE, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS GIVEN US FUNDING FOR THE, FOR CONSULTING OUT THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS.

WE HAVE PUT OUT THAT RFQ AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT SELECTION PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A CONSULTANT PICKED BY THE END OF THE MONTH THAT, UM, CONSULTANT WILL BE IN CHARGE OF DOING THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PLAN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A SHORT INTRODUCTION VIDEO THAT WE'LL USE ON WEBSITES, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

THEY'LL DO A COMMUNITY SURVEY AND THEY'LL LEAD SEVEN TO NINE WORKSHOPS THROUGHOUT THE PARISH.

UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A CONSULTANT PICKED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.

AND ONCE THAT GETS PICKED, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER SCHEDULE AND TIMING FOR ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA COME DOWN.

UM, BECAUSE AFTER THAT, THE ACTUAL UPDATE ITSELF IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, UM, FUTURE VRS GOALS, OBJECTIVES, THEIR ACTION ITEMS, FUTURE LAND USE, THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, UM, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THEN OTHER SUPPORTING DATA AND DOCUMENTS IN THE, THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT ITSELF.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

WE WILL BE GETTING THAT, UM, GOING HOPEFULLY AT THE BEGINNING, UH, AT THE END OF THE MONTH WHEN THE CONSULTANT IS SELECTED, AND WE'LL BE DOING A PRESENTATION AT, UH, METRO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH.

QUESTION? YES.

IS THAT A, A CONTRACT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AS IT RELATES TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH? SO, UM, IT'S, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THE CONTRACT.

WE DID AN RFQ AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AN REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS LAST YEAR.

MM-HMM.

.

AND WE GOT THE SUBMISSIONS FROM THE KAONS.

UM, WE WENT THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS AND RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THE PURCHASING THE DEPARTMENT AND, AND IT'S MOVING FORWARD.

WHAT I WAS ASKING IS THIS THE, IS THIS A CONTRACT WE HAD PRIOR TO THIS ONE? NO, IT, THIS IS A NEW CONTRACT THAT WAS OKAY FOR THIS.

OKAY.

UM, IS THERE DBE REQUIREMENT OR ANYTHING? IS THERE A DBE DISADVANTAGE? BUSINESS ENTERPRISE REQUIREMENT? UM, THERE PRETTY SURE LIKE THAT'S REQUIRED IN RFQ THAT GO OUT HARDER SCORE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT'S SCARY CUZ WHAT NOW? I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE, UM, IF YOU WANT A COPY OF THE RFQ, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET YOU NO, THE SCORING.

OH, THE SCORING.

YEAH.

UM, WE NEVER GET TO SEE THAT.

THAT HAS TO BE GONE THROUGH THE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST PROCESS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IT IS A CONFIDENTIALITY

[00:15:02]

AND THEY SAY THAT, BUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE DID THE, UH, REZONING, UM, THERE WAS A WHITE MAN WHO GOT THE CONTRACT AND HE WAS THE ONLY EMPLOYEE AND HE GOT POINTS FOR, UH, FOR HAVING MINORITY, FOR MINORITY, HAVING A MINORITY PARTICIPATION.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT JUST WORRIES ME.

I, IT IT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT.

I KNOW THAT.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW ALL THAT HAPPENED BACK THEN.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WHO'S PART OF THE COMMITTEE? WHO'S THE SCORING COMMITTEE? UM, THAT'S CONFIDENTIAL AS WELL.

OH, .

THE, THE SCORING.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST HOW THEY DO IT.

THAT'S HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH IT.

ALL THE SCORING PROCESSES, THE, THE SCORING PROCESS IS MADE.

SO IT, THE, THE, THE SCORES CAN'T BE INFLUENCED OUTSIDE OF THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.

SO, AND PURCHASING RUNS THAT PROCESS.

I MEAN, IT'S REQUIRED THROUGH THE PROCESS.

ANY OTHER QUESTION? THANK YOU MR. LUENBERGER.

AT THIS TIME I'LL

[RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS]

ASK THE VICE CHAIRMAN GROW TO READ IN THE RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS, RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ANY INTERESTED MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA MAY COMMENT IN PERSON AT CITY HALL 2022 ST.

LOUIS STREET, BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA, 7 0 8 0 2 THIRD FLOOR, ROOM 3 40 48.

DURING THE MEETING, ALL COMMENTS WILL BE BROADCAST ON WWW DOLA.GOV ON METRO 21 COX, CHANNEL 21, AND AT T CHANNEL 29.

AND ON THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE FACEBOOK PAGE VIA FACEBOOK LIVE.

COMMENTS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO 3:00 PM OF THE MEETING.

DATE WILL BE COMPILED BY POSITION FOR AND AGAINST, AND THE TOTAL NUMBER WILL BE ANNOUNCED BEFORE THE ITEMS PUBLIC HEARING, ANY INTERESTED PERSON WHO DOES NOT WISH TO COMMENT IN PERSON MAY USE THE FORM FOUND@HTTPSWWW.RLA.GOV.

PC APPLICANT AND APPLICANTS REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPOSAL WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A PERIOD OF NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES, EXCUSE ME.

THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM SHOULD REFER TO A MEETING AGENDA AND FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM.

ONCE THE ITEM IS ANNOUNCED, EACH PERSON'S NAME WAS FILLED OUT, A FORM WILL BE CALLED ON TO SPEAK.

PROPONENTS WILL SPEAK THEN THE OPPONENTS, EACH SPEAKER WILL NOT BE ALLOWED MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.

THE SPEAKERS ARE REQUESTED TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS TO AVOID DUPLICATION OF THEIR PRESENTATION.

APPLICANT WILL BE ALLOWED.

TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GRA WE CAN NOW

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MR. MORAN CONSENT AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR WITHDRAWAL.

ITEM NUMBER 13, P U D 14 DASH ZERO SIX MICKENS ROAD CONCEPT PLANNED REVISION.

THREE.

WERE DRAWN BY THE APPLICANT ON JANUARY 3RD, 2023.

THERE ARE NO ITEMS FOR DEFERRAL.

THE FOLLOWING ARE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.

ITEM NUMBER 15, CUP NINE DASH ZERO FOUR.

MOST BLESSED SACRAMENT SCHOOL PROPOSED NEW MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING WITHIN EXISTING CAMPUS ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY EAST OF BERINGER ROAD.

ITEM NUMBER 16 CS ONE DASH 23 JOHNNY W AND SBRA JEEP TURNER PROPERTY PROPOSED FLAG LOT SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PRIDE.

BAYWOOD ROAD, EAST OF HALL ROAD.

ITEM NUMBER 17, CS TWO DASH 23.

WARREN O WATSON IN SYDNEY, COX TRACK PROPOSED FLAG LOT SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PERKINS ROAD, WEST OF MEY DRIVE.

ITEM NUMBER 18, SS ONE DASH 23.

ETHEL D MARTIN TRACT, PROPOSED MINOR SUBDIVISION WITH A PRIVATE STREET ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH TIGER BEND ROAD NORTH OF HOSHI TWO ROAD IN ITEM 19 S SP ONE DASH 23.

THE HEIGHTS AT PICARDI.

PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PICARDI AVENUE EAST OF MANCUSO.

LANE PLANNING COMMISSION.

STAFF CERTIFIES THAT ALL THESE ITEMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE UDC.

[00:20:02]

WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FROM A CITIZEN TO PULL ITEMS 17 CS 2 23 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE HEARD AS A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR HOLCOMB COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WILL BE TAKEN WITH ONE VOTE.

ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAVE AN ITEM ON CONSENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED AND HEARD AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA? DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ANYTHING? THE, THE ONES THAT WE JUST, THAT, THAT THEY JUST READ IN.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SCRS? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LANDER? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THESE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

[Items 7 & 8]

MR. CHAIRMAN, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

THAT'S ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT.

THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.

WE WILL LISTEN TO AT THIS TIME.

UH, PLAN AMENDMENT 25 22, 2100 TO 2200 MILLERVILLE ROAD AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, SPUD 2 22.

THE GATES AT MILLERVILLE, PA 25 22.

2100 TO 2200 MILLERVILLE ROAD WITH RELATED CASE SPUD 2 22.

THE GATES AT MILLERVILLE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF MILLERVILLE ROAD AND SOUTH OF HUNTERS RIDGE DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT AMOROSO.

THE APPLICANT IS MICKEY ROBERTSON.

THE CURRENT FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL.

THE REQUESTED FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE EXISTING ZONING IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL C2 WITH A REQUESTED ZONING OF SMALL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, SPUD FOR A GATED MEDIUM DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT WITH PRIVATE STREETS AND 73 LOTS PA 25 22, 2100 TO 2200 MILLVILLE ROAD WITH RELATED CASE SPUD 2 22.

THE GATES AT MILLERVILLE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON EXAMINATION OF THE AREA AT A FURTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES.

STAFF ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST WILL MEET THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A SMALL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BEING COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS IF THE COMPANION PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.

PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE MESSAGE OF OPPOSITION TO THESE TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MICKEY ROBERTSON, MR. ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING 93 45 INTERLINE AVENUE.

I SPENT A, FORGIVE ME FOR USING MY PHONE.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME TODAY MAKING A LOT OF GREAT SPEAKING NOTES AND THEN I LEFT THEM ON MY DESK.

SO I'M KIND OF WORKING THROUGH 'EM HERE ON MY PHONE, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE GATES IN MILLERVILLE.

IT'S A 73 LOT, UH, SMALL PLANS UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED BEHIND THE TARGET ON, UH, MILLERVILLE AT I 12.

UH, IT'S GONNA BE ON ABOUT NINE ACRES AND IT WILL CONSIST OF 19 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND 54 TOWN HOMES.

AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR SITE PLANNING IS WE'VE POSITIONED THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES BEHIND THE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE PRESERVE AT HUNTERS RIDGE AND HUNTERS RIDGE SUBDIVISION.

THANK YOU.

UM, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE GATED WITH PRIVATE STREETS.

UH, WE WILL HAVE ONLY AN EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE THAT WILL GO THROUGH HUNTERS RIDGE ONLY IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, BUT ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC WILL BE ROUTED OUT TO MILLERVILLE DIRECTLY THROUGH THE MILLERVILLE COMMERCIAL SITE THAT'S THERE.

ONCE OUR RESIDENTS GET INTO THAT MILLERVILLE COMMERCIAL SITE, THEY'LL HAVE FIVE OPTIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT ON HOW TO ACCESS MILLVILLE DIRECTLY.

AND TWO OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE, UH, CONTROLLED BY A SIGNAL.

UH, WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED SLIGHTLY MORE THAN THE REQUIRED 15% OF GREEN SPACE.

WE'VE PROVIDED ROUGHLY 18%.

UH, WE ARE REQUESTING A DOWN ZONING FROM C2 TO SPUD.

UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS COMMERCIAL.

WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD TO ACCOMMODATE THE TOWN HOMES.

UH, THIS WILL ALLOW THE SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A LOT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S ADJACENT TO.

UH, WE FEEL THAT THESE USES, ARE WE PROPOSING A LOT MORE COMPATIBLE THAN WHAT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT COULD BE DONE IN C2? UH, SOME PRETTY ONEROUS THINGS.

AND YOU'VE GOT FOUR STORY MULTI, UH, FOUR STORY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

YOU'VE GOT EQUIPMENT REPAIR, CABINET SHOPS, HOTELS, LOTS OF THINGS THAT COULD BE A LOT WORSE THAN, UH, JUST A A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, SUBDIVISION.

UH, WITH PRIVATE STREETS THAT YOU KNOW ONLY ACCESS DIRECTLY IS TO DIRECTLY TO MILLERVILLE.

[00:25:01]

UH, WE HAVE PROVIDED THE REQUIRED DRAIN GYM PACK STUDY.

UH, WE HAVE GONE ABOVE AND ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REQUIRED MINIMUM.

THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED IN A FEMA REGULATED FLOOD ZONE, BUT WE HAVE STILL REDUCED THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT FLOWS FOR THE 10 YEAR AND 25 YEAR STORM BY ABOUT 63%.

WE'VE ALSO DESIGNED OUR POND SUCH THAT WHEN HONEYWELL HONEYCUTT BY YOU, UH, IS KIND OF PRIMING THAT IT WILL DETAIN ALL OF THE FLOW FROM OUR SITE AND WILL BE NOTHING GOING INTO HONEYCUTT.

SO WE, WE FEEL LIKE THAT WILL IMPROVE DRAINAGE FOR THE AREA.

SAME CONCLUSION, WE'VE PRESENTED A PLAT, UH, THAT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A REZONE AND FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT AND WE ASK FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSION MEMBERS, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION.

THE FIRST IS FOR DANIEL KILLEN.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, SIR.

I THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

UH, MY ONLY OPPOSITION IS IF THERE'S NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR THEM TO HAVE NO, UH, NORMAL ACCESS TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL, UH, AREAS.

UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, FROM WHAT THE, UH, PRIOR SPEAKER SAID IS THAT THERE WOULD ONLY BE AN EMERGENCY, UH, EXIT THERE, UH, FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT INTO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH IS WHERE I I LIVE.

YOU KNOW, UH, AND THE REASON FOR THIS BEING THAT IF THERE WERE TO BE NORMAL TRAFFIC THERE, UH, THAT WOULD INCREASE, UH, THE, UH, THE SAFETY RISK THERE.

UH, CHILDREN PLAY IN THAT AREA.

UH, THE STREETS ARE NOT MADE FOR A LARGE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.

UH, SO, UH, AS LONG AS THERE'S ONLY EMERGENCY AVAILABILITY OF THE STREETS, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, FINE, UH, WITH ME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OUR OTHER COURT IS FOR JANICE CARTER.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M HERE.

UM, TO REPRESENT A FEW OF OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS IN, UH, THE PRESERVES AT HUNTER LAKE.

I MOVED THERE ABOUT 14 OR 15 YEARS AGO, AND THE REASON WHY I MOVED THERE IS BECAUSE IT WAS A COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ONLY FOUR STREETS.

SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN A, A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, NOISE.

AND I ASKED AROUND WHAT WAS THE NOISE ABOUT? AND THEY TOLD ME IT WAS GONNA BE A COMMERCIAL AREA THAT'S, THAT WAS GONNA BE BUILT THERE.

I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND, UH, TARGET.

I LIVE ON A STREET HUNTERS RIDGE DRIVE, WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BRING, UH, SOME TRAFFIC THROUGH.

I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT PLAY IN THE STREETS SOMETIME, AND THE REASON I'M CONCERNED OF BEING OPPOSED AGAINST IT IS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BRING IN HEAVY TRAFFIC AND, UH, MAYBE SOME CRIME.

I'M SO USED TO BEING THERE, UH, THE WAY IT IS.

AND WHEN I WENT TO TALK TO MY COUNSELOR PERSON IS A MISS, UH, AMAROSA.

WE WERE, IT WAS ABOUT 25 OF US THAT SIGNED THE, UH, PAPER SAYING THAT WE ARE OPPOSED AGAINST IT.

I TALKED WITH MR. BLAKE WHEN I MET WITH HIM, UH, AND I THINK IT WAS MR. STEVEN LAST WEEK.

AND LIKE I TOLD, UH, COUNCILWOMAN AM AMAROSA, I AM DEFINITELY OPPOSED AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE MORE TRAFFIC AND THERE'S ONLY FOUR STREETS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.

UH, I WOULDN'T HAVE MIND, UH, UH, CONCERNING THE, THE, THE COMMERCIAL, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S TARGET THERE AND, AND, AND, AND LOADS THERE.

AND I JUST THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE, UH, COMMERCIAL.

BUT SINCE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABOUT 73 TOWNHOUSES, UH, THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.

IT'S GONNA BRING IN A WHOLE LOT OF NEW PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UH, MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF, WE ARE OPPOSED TO IT ABOUT 25, IT'S ABOUT 70 OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I GOT ABOUT 25, UH, SIGNATURES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOUR OR FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

UH, WE CAN UNEQUIVOCALLY SAY THAT WE CAN MEET BOTH OF THE REQUIREMENTS AT THOSE.

UH, TWO RESIDENTS JUST ASKED US ABOUT, UH, ABOUT NOT HAVING ANY ACCESS THROUGH THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

AS I STATED IN THE INITIAL, THERE WILL BE NO ROUTINE ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT WILL STRICTLY BE AN EMERGENCY GATE.

EVERYTHING IS GONNA GO OUT THROUGH THE MILLERVILLE DEVELOPMENT.

PERFECT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ONE SECOND.

UH, COMMISSIONER SCR, I'LL, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MACON MAKING.

YOU CAN STAND RIGHT THERE.

COMMISSIONER SQUIER.

YEAH,

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CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN HOW DOES AN EMERGENCY GATE WORK? UH, SO THE, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES WILL HAVE A SORT OF AOB OR A KEY THAT WHENEVER THEY COME THERE TO, TO COME IN, THEY ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO IT SO THAT IT'S NEVER, UH, AN ISSUE.

AND IT'S EVEN BUILT TO THE SUCH A WAY THAT IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO, THEY COULD JUST CRASH THROUGH IT SO THAT IT DOESN'T OFFER ANY IMPEDANCE IN A, IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE? YES, I I HAD THE SAME QUESTION.

UM, AS FAR AS THE EMERGENCY ACCESS, WH WHERE AT IS THAT GONNA BE COMING IN ON? BECAUSE I KNOW MS. UM, MS. CARTER HAD MENTIONED SHE LIVED ON HUNTER'S RIDGE DRIVE, CORRECT? RIGHT.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT ON THE PLAN, HUNTSMAN AVENUE WILL GO OUT IN BETWEEN THE TARGET AND THE BEST BUY.

SO THAT'S WHERE ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM THE DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA GO.

UH, MS. CARTER, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, SHE LIVES ON HUNTER'S RIDGE, WHICH WILL ONLY HAVE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS.

SO THERE'LL BE NO MORE TRAFFIC ON HER STREET.

IT'S IN BETWEEN OUR LOTS.

SIX AND SEVEN.

IT'S HUNTERS RIDGE.

THERE'S A, THAT'S WHERE THE EMERGENCY GATE IS.

THANKS, CHAIRMAN GRUFF.

UH, I I DON'T NEED TO HAVE MICKEY UP HERE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT AND THAT IS THAT I'M GONNA BE A BIT OF THE CONTRARIAN.

UM, I BELIEVE PART OF OUR MAJOR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ARE THE FACT WE DO NOT HAVE INTERCONNECTIVITY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE UDC IS TO HAVE INTERCONNECTIVITY.

AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMUNITY, UH, UH, IN FRONT DOESN'T WANT THAT, UM, I, I, I'M VERY, I MEAN, I'M, I'M VERY HESITANT.

UH, I'M GLAD WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE CONNECTION, BUT IT, TO MY MIND VIOLATES THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE UDC.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF DEAD END SUBDIVISIONS THAT ALL GO ONTO MAJOR STREETS.

AND SO THE ONLY WAY TO GET FROM, YOU KNOW, YOUR FRIEND'S HOUSE TO YOUR FRIEND'S HOUSE IS TO GET ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE JUST TO GO AROUND THE CORNER.

SO, UM, I I I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD, UH, UH, DESIGN.

IT MEETS THE CRITERIA.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

UM, UH, I, I REALLY WISH WE WOULD HAVE MORE SUPPORT FOR CONNECTIVITY.

YOU, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A, UM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A, UM, I'M GONNA CALL IT.

IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A DRAG STRIP DOWN YOUR STREET.

OKAY.

UH, I LIVED IN, I GREW UP IN A CITY WHERE THERE WERE BLOCKS.

YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, FOUR STREETS, FOUR CORNERS.

WE STILL PLAYED IN THE STREET.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE DONE, BUT, UM, I, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AND TO, AND TO APPROVE THESE TWO ITEMS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MY 2 CENTS ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY.

IT'S TO MY MIND, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT WE DO THAT IN THIS CITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT TO APPROVE THESE TWO ITEMS. IS THERE A SECOND TO, TO THAT MOTION SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCRS.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SCENE? NONE.

THOSE TWO ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

THANK YOU, MR.

[Items 9 & 10]

CHAIRMAN.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

THAT'S ITEM NINE AND 10.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME WE'LL HEAR ITEM NUMBER NINE.

PLAN AMENDMENT 1 23 18 9 10 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY.

AND ITEM NUMBER 10, CASE 1 23, PA 1 23 18.

NINE 10 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY WITH A RELATED CASE.

1 23 PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD SOUTH OF COPPER MILL BOULEVARD COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE NOLAN, THE APPLICANT IS BRYANT BUTLER.

THE CURRENT FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE REQUESTED FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS TO COMMERCIAL.

THE EXISTING ZONING IS RURAL WITH THE REQUESTED ZONING TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO FOR PROPOSED RETAIL SALES OFFICE PA 1 23 18 9 10 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY WITH RELATED CASE 1 23.

RECOMMEND.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARING APPROPRIATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.

STAFF ALSO CANNOT CERTIFY THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.

WE HAVE RECEIVED NO MESSAGES AND OPPOSITION AND WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN OPPOSITION TO THESE TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

[00:35:02]

GOOD AFTERNOON, BRYANT BUTLER, BOB BOX, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.

SO WE WERE ENGAGED ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNER TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY AT OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY.

IT'S A 3.78 ACRE TRACT ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE AL TRAILS NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING UP THERE.

UM, WE WENT THROUGH, BECAUSE THIS IS A ZONE OF INFLUENCE CASE, WE WENT THROUGH ZACHARY PLANNING AND ZACHARY CITY COUNCIL.

NO OPPOSITION, NO MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND NO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OPTED TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING.

UM, SO NOW WE'RE WE'RE HERE BEFORE BATON ROUGE TEST THAT IT WOULD BE REZONED TO LIKE COMMERCIAL TWO.

UM, THIS ALL KIND OF CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE LANDOWNER ACTUALLY OPERATED A HAIR SALON ON THE PROPERTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND SHE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HER PROPERTY WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL AND WE GOT A .

SHE TOLD US THAT SHE HAD SOME SORT OF VARIANCE OR NONCONFORMING USE PERMIT.

SHE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TO US.

UM, WE GOT A LETTER OF INTERPRETATION ALL THAT TO CONFIRM THAT IT WAS ZONED RULE.

AND THEN SHE ASKED THAT WE REZONE IT TO COMMERCIAL.

UM, WE KIND OF WORKED WITH HER AND LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT LIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONINGS.

WE OPTED TO GO WITH LC TWO JUST BECAUSE IT INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF FLOOR AREA ON THE PROPERTY TO 75,000 SQUARE FEET VERSUS 15,000 SQUARE FEET FOR LC.

ONE WITH A 3.78 ACRE TRACT, UM, 15,000 SQUARE FEET AND BE HIT PRETTY QUICKLY FOR THAT SIZE OF PROPERTY.

UM, SO WE ARE REQUESTING, THAT'D BE REZONED TO LC TWO, THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, UM, OUR ZONE COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN ONCE YOU GET INTO ZACHARY, THE COPPER MILL FRONTAGE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN ACROSS SCENIC HIGHWAY FROM COPPER MILL IS ALSO ZONE COMMERCIAL.

UM, THERE'S SOME NEW NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP IN THIS AREA.

WE FEEL THAT, UH, GOOD MIX OF LIGHT RETAIL AND MAYBE GARDEN OFFICE WOULD, WOULD BENEFIT THE SURROUNDED COMMUNITIES.

I SPOKE WITH BRYANT DIXON, WHO'S PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR ZACHARY.

UM, AND HE VERBALLY MENTIONED TO ME THAT THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

AND SINCE I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL CARDS, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE QUESTION AND COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION BEGINNING WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS.

I THINK SHE HAS COMMENTS.

ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.

DID YOU TALK TO COUNCILMAN NOEL? I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH HIM YET, NO.

HAS THERE BEEN AN AN ATTEMPT TO NO, THAT MIGHT BE YOUR FIRST PROBLEM.

.

OKAY.

WHAT, UH, UN I MEAN, HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THE WAY OLD, UH, SCENIC HIGHWAY WITH THE RETAIL ALONG THAT STREET, MINI AREA HOUSES IN THE BACK.

WHAT, WHAT CAUSED IT TO BE DENIED? SO WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.

I'VE, I'VE SHARED THAT, THAT POINT OF VIEW WITH A COUPLE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME INDIVIDUALLY ON THIS PROJECT.

ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE DEMAND ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, UH, AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY, UH, WITH THE UPDATE OF FUTURE BR WE WOULD NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, SEE, SEE CHANGES IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA AS WE LOOK AT AT, AT THIS AREA.

AT A GREATER LEVEL OF DETAIL, THE PROPERTY ON THIS SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD IMMEDIATELY NORTH, UH, THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS HIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONE G O L.

YES.

WHICH IS GENERAL OFFICE LOW RISE.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, ONE OF OUR, OUR, OUR LOWER LOW LOW SCALE OFFICE ZONING DISTRICTS.

UM, YOU'RE CORRECT ACROSS THE STREET IN THAT PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS SOME LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES ALONG WITHIN EXISTING, UH, LAKE AFTER HOURS CLINIC, I BELIEVE.

SO, UM, IT, IT IS AN AREA THAT, THAT, UM, POTENTIALLY IS IN, UH, TRANSITION AND HAS A DEMAND FOR FUTURE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL.

WE JUST HAVE NOT SEEN IT ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, UM, AT THE PRESENT TIME.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS.

UM, THIS BODY HAS THE DISCRETION TO, TO APPROVE IT ANY WAY THEY, THEY SEE IT.

UM, I HAVE TALKED TO THE COUNCILMAN ON THERE THAT DOES HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND THAT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR MULTI-FAMILY.

OKAY.

AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

SO I WONDER, YOU KNOW, IF THIS, I YES, THIS IS A PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THE COMPANION REZONING.

SO IT DOES REQUIRE COUNSEL APPROVAL.

IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR, UH, THE FEBRUARY 15TH COUNCIL ZONING MEETING.

YES MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER BANKS, IF YOU COULD, I'M

[00:40:01]

SORRY.

AND, AND WHAT THE GOALS ARE, UM, FOR THAT AREA.

UM, AND AS HE INDICATED IT, IT MAY, IT MAY BE NOT NOW, BUT UM, LATER ON IT MAY BE JUST A DELAY.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE, LIKE THE NUMBER ONE THING YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR REZONE, IS GET WITH THAT COUNCILMAN CUZ USUALLY THEY KNOW WHAT'S AHEAD AND THEY CAN ADVISE YOU OF CARDINAL AND YOU WON'T WASTE A LOT OF TIME OR MONEY.

YES, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE THE ADVICE.

SURE.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

THANK YOU, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, IT WAS FUN THING I, I DID HEAR THAT WAS NOT OFTEN HEARD WHEN IT COMES OUT OF THE ZACHARY RECORDER IS THAT WE GOT THE SPIRIT OF INFLUENCE.

WE GOT THE COUNCIL, WE GOT THE MAYOR, WE GOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OVER THERE APPROVING SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN, HAD THEM BEFORE US MANY TIMES BECAUSE OF ITEMS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE PERIPHERAL OF CENIC HIGHWAY OR ANYWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS USUALLY THE OPPOSITE, WHICH MAKES IT VERY STRANGE THAT WE ARE HERE.

THAT EVEN OUR COMMISSION IS SAYING WE DON'T MOVE FOR APPROVE OF THIS.

BUT IT IS NOT VERY OFTEN WE HEAR PROJECTS IN THAT CORRIDOR TO WHICH THE, THE COUNCIL, THE PLANNING DIRECTORS, ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE IS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.

I MEAN, AND, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS CAUSE I WAS ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS WHO MET TO TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS AND WHAT IT WAS DOING AND THE IDEA THAT IT IS, UM, IT COULD POTENTIALLY PUT A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THERE.

IF THAT IS, IF THAT IS NOT YOUR INTENT, THEN CERTAINLY EXPRESSING THAT TO THE MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, WHETHER HE'S A FORWARD OR AGAINST IT.

BUT WAY I'M WEIGHING INTO THIS IS THAT NOT OFTEN DO WE HEAR OF THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND AND HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND TOUR THE AREA.

AND IT IS ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE THAT IT'S NOT ALREADY COMMERCIAL LIKE THE LADY SAYS SHE BELIEVED.

AND IF YOU DRIVE DOWN OEN HIGHWAY, WHEN YOU SEE WHAT YOU SEE, YOU'LL BE HARD TO THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL ON THAT PART OF SENIOR HIGHWAY.

FOR THAT REASON, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, IF IT PASSES THIS BODY, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND HAVE YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM.

BUT THEN IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL AND AT LEAST IT'LL BE OUT OF THIS BODY FOR WHICH WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO GO HAVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS' DISCUSSION AND PEOPLE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOUR HURDLE WOULD BE GETTING THE MEMBER WHO SAYS TO THIS BODY OF THIS COUNCIL, UH, TO APPROVE IT.

I MEAN, SO THAT, FOR THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THERE'S A, UH, WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER ELER.

SO, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY OCCUPYING THIS PROPERTY NOW THAT BELIEVED IT'S COMMERCIAL OR THEY NO LONGER YES.

THAT THAT WAS THEIR THOUGHT.

THEY OPERATED A HAIR SALON WITH SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL PERMIT.

THEY TOLD US, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER, ARE THEY STILL OPERATING RIGHT NOW? NO, THEY'RE NO LONGER OPERATING IT.

THEY PLAN TO MOVE FROM THE PROPERTY.

THEIR HUSBAND JUST DIED AND IT'S A LOT OF PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN, SO.

OKAY.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, IS THERE ANY I, YOU KNOW, IDEA WHAT'S ONE Y'ALL, IS THERE AN IDEA WHAT YOU WANT PUT HERE? I MEAN, OR JUST A THIS IS THE REZONING TO SELL IT.

THIS IS JUST THE REZONING ITSELF.

THE IDEA WOULD BE LIGHT RETAIL AND IN OFFICE, NOT MULTI-FAMILY.

UM, THAT WAS KIND OF THEIR INTENT THAT THEY HAD DISCUSSED WITH US.

LC TWO IS JUST KIND OF A ALL-ENCOMPASSING COMMERCIAL ZONING.

UM, ALTHOUGH IT DOES PERMIT MULTI-FAMILY, THAT IS NOT THE INTENT WHATSOEVER.

UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, WHAT IS, UM, THE UNIT DENSITY THAT WOULD BE APPROVED FOR LC TWO OR WHAT, WHAT'S PERMITTED FROM LC TWO AS FAR AS UNIT DENSITY? DO WE KNOW APPROXIMATELY 29 UNITS IN AGRE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I THINK FIRST, UH, WE DID HAVE A COM, A FLOOR, UH, MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? WE CAN ENTERTAIN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, UH, FROM THAT.

I'LL SECOND.

THERE'S A SECOND TO THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE COMMISSIONER.

JUST ONE QUESTION.

UM, UM, COMMISSION, I MEAN, UM, RYAN, WHAT IN, IN HAVING THE DISCUSSION, IF THE CONCERN IS THE, UM, THE MAL FAMILY, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN, WHAT WOULD BE A, WHAT WOULD BE A ANOTHER, UM, ALTERNATIVE THAT THE COUNCILMAN AND THE DEVELOPER MAY BE ABLE TO DISCUSS? THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL OPTION IF THE APPLICANT AGREED AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL TO, AND, AND I CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH COUNCILMAN, NO.

MM-HMM.

TO POTENTIALLY DROP DOWN TO G O L, UH, GENERAL OFFICE.

LOWRISE IS THE SAME ZONING CATEGORY OF THE PROPERTY, UH, ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH GENERAL OFFICE.

LOWRISE ALLOWS OFFICE, UM, IT, IT DOES ALLOW MULTI-FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL, BUT 50% OR MORE OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT HAS TO BE OFFICE.

SO THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT IT CAN'T BE A TRADITIONAL MULTI-FAMILY

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DEVELOPMENT BY RETAIL.

IT, IT WOULD ALLOW SOME, SOME LIKE COMMERCIAL IN RETAIL.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE AN OPTION.

UM, WE HAVE A LOWER SCALE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THE LIMITATIONS ON THERE WOULD BE I THINK, TOO SMALL.

IT'S 120 500 SQUARE FEET.

SO G O L MAY BE AN OPTION.

I, I'LL CERTAINLY HELP COORDINATE A MEETING OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE COUNCILMAN, I'LL, I'M GLAD TO BE A PART OF THAT.

DEFINITELY.

THANK YOU.

SO I, UH, YEAH, UH, AS IT RELATES TO WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN ADDISON, I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME LEVERAGE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

UM, THAT'S WHY HE'S THE SMARTEST PERSON HERE.

BUT YEAH, I, I, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT PART DEVELOP AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

AND IF THAT WILL, UM, FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION.

I THINK, UM, COUNCILMAN NO.

BE OPEN TO THOSE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BANKS, VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW.

WELL, I, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF, IF, UH, THE DIRECTOR IF, OR ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT IF, UH, GOING TO A DOWN ZONING NOW WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL GET BEHIND.

BUT, UH, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT, UH, UH, THIS, THIS NEEDS, THIS IS GONNA GO TO COUNCIL AND, AND YOU HAVE BASICALLY A MONTH, UH, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO, UM, IF, IF, UH, I'M, I'M GONNA LET THE MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON STAND.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT I AM, BUT I AM GONNA, UH, VOTE AGAINST IT.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

THAT MOTION, UH, HAS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE.

UH, OKAY, WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL, THERE'S A, UH, VOTE IN OPPOSITION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT, AN ADDITIONAL FROM COMMISSIONER ER.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, VOTES OF IN OPPOSITION OF APPROVING THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

THOSE ITEMS, THOSE TWO ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED

[11. TA-8-22 Industrial Districts]

AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11, TEXT AMENDMENT 8 22 INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO AMEND THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO REVISE CHAPTER NINE, USE REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY SECTION 9.28, TABLE NINE G PRINCIPLE USES ALLOWED IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

AT THIS TIME, I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO SPEAKER, NO SPEAKER CARDS, UH, OPPOSED OR IN SUPPORT? I WILL GIVE YOU A ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND ON THIS.

OKAY.

STAFF HAS CERTIFIED THAT THE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, THIS PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT WAS INITIATED AT YOUR SEPTEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO REVIEW THE ALLOWABLE USES IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

UH, THE EXISTING PROVISIONS IN THE UDC GOVERNING BOTH M ONE AND M TWO HAVE CREATED UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BY NOT REFLECTING THE HISTORICAL PRINCIPLE USES ALLOWED IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS.

PROPERTY ZONED M ONE AND M TWO TYPICALLY HAVE EXISTING OFFICES AND COMMERCIAL USES.

A PREVIOUS TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, DONE YEARS AGO PULLED SOME OF THOSE USES OUT.

THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO FURTHER REVIEW TO, UH, REPLACE SOME OF THOSE OFFICES.

SPECIFICALLY COMMERCIAL, UH, BOTH LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES BACK IN THESE TO REMOVE INCONSISTENCIES AND NUMEROUS NONCONFORMITIES A ACROSS THE CITY PARISH.

THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WAS REVIEWED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ALSO SHARED WITH THE GROWTH COALITION AND THE FEDERATION OF CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS.

BOTH, UH, REVIEWED THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT AND, UH, HAD NO OPPOSITION.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.

WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS ITEM FROM VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW.

SECOND.

THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.

THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

WE'LL

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MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12.

CASE 78 2200 925 TAMS DRIVE CASE 78 20 2009 25.

TAMS DRIVE.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TAMS DRIVE, EAST OF GREEN OAK DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX DUNN JR.

THE APPLICANT IS JOSE PEREZ.

THE FUTURE VR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE EXISTING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, A ONE WITH A REQUESTED ZONING FOR TWO FAMILY, A 2.9 FOR A PROPOSED TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE CASE 78 22 1 0 9 25 TAM'S DRIVE.

STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,

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COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

WE'VE RECEIVED TWO MESSAGES AND OPPOSITION FROM THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, HAPPY NEW YEAR.

THE LAST TIME WE GOT TOGETHER WAS LAST YEAR.

UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED? WE ARE, I REMEMBER SENDING K 78 22 FOR THE ADDRESS, TEN NINE TWENTY FIVE TAMS DRIVE, UM, TO MOVE IT FOR, TO REZONE IT FROM AN A ONE TO AN A 29.

UM, THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO, UM, KIND OF BRING BACK LIFE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, SINGLE RESIDENT HOMES HERE, ESPECIALLY ON THE CORNER HERE AS A GOOD PROPERTY TO KIND OF BRING BACK FAMILY MEMBERS.

THERE'S A PARK RIGHT ACROSS THE CORNER THAT I GREW UP IN AND IT WAS REALLY FULL OF LIFE, UM, LIKE 12 YEARS AGO WHEN I GREW UP AROUND IT.

UM, I KIND OF JUST WANT TO SEE, UM, IT BEING BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE, MORE KIDS BEING PLAYED AROUND AND, UM, PLAYING IN THE BRIGHT PARK.

UM, AND TO ALLOW FAMILY MEMBERS TO, UM, THE ACCESS TO BE CLOSER TO A, UM, A PUBLIC PARK THAT ISN'T TOO FAR AWAY SO THAT THEY CAN KNOW THAT THEIR KIDS AREN'T GOING TOO FAR.

UM, AND THEN WITH A COUPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA, IT WOULD BE A GOOD, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO NOT, UM, BE SO FAR AWAY FROM THEIR KIDS.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, SPEAKER CARDS.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM, UH, COMMISSION MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BANKS.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS.

SECOND, SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FROM, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.

I'M, I'M, I'M GOING TO AGAIN, BE THE CONTRARIAN.

I, I DON'T SEE A REASON, UH, TO MOVE THIS TO A 29.

UM, IT'S ALREADY A ONE, EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS A ONE.

YOU DO HAVE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET, BUT, UM, THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS, IS, UH, AN OUTLIER.

UH, YES, YOU DO HAVE THE PARK, BUT, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE OR A TWO-FAMILY HOUSE, UH, IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE PARK IN ANY WAY.

AND I AGREE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME BACK, BUT I HAVE A VERY HARD TIME WITH THAT MUCH A ONE THERE, UM, TO, FOR, FOR, FOR THIS, FOR THIS TO BECOME, UM, UH, I, I CAN JUST SEE THIS STARTING AT DOMINO AND I, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT.

SO I'M, I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA OPPOSE THIS.

I'M, I'M GOING, I'M GONNA, UH, VOTE NOW.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRATH, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.

UH, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THE COUNCILMAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, AREA AND, UH, THIS PROJECT? WE DID GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF THE COUNCILMAN ON THIS ITEM.

UH, IN MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM, HE, HE EXPRESSED SOME, SOME GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

AND WAS THAT UNABLE TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT, UM, DIRECTLY ON THIS ITEM? I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE APPLICANT WANTS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE IF THEY WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNCILMAN, BUT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE COUNCILMAN, UH, WAS CONCERNED AND, UM, EXPRESSED HIS OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM WHEN HE SPOKE TO ME.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSION BANKS HAS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO AGAINST MY COUNCILMAN.

UH, THE ONLY REASON I WANTED TO SPEAK ON IT BE IS I ACTUALLY WORK AT A SCHOOL IN THE AREA AND I'VE NOTICED THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE MOVED, HAVE CHANGED WHERE, UM, BASICALLY A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS PROBABLY, UM, EITHER CAN'T AFFORD OR, UM, ARE MORE LENIENT TO A HIGHER DENSITY IN HOUSING.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I, YOU KNOW, WAS THINKING, UM, THAT IT WAS A GOOD MOVE.

AND I'VE SEEN, UM, DEVELOPMENTS NOW, UH, WHERE I MEAN THAT THE, THAT ARE, UM, TWO FAMILY THAT ARE REALLY NICE WITH COVERED CARPORTS.

YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN YOUR PLANS, BUT, UM, I SEE WHERE A LOT OF MILLENNIALS ARE MOVING, UM, TOWARDS THIS KIND OF HOUSING.

SO MY THOUGHT PROCESS PROCESS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

UM, BUT HAVE IN YOUR, YOU DID SPEAK WITH COUNCILMAN DUNN? YES, MA'AM.

WE DID SPEAK, UH, BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

HE'S A, I KNOW HE IS UNDERSTANDING, HE'S A BUSY MAN.

UM, WE DID TALK

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TODAY ON THE PHONE.

WE DIDN'T GET THE CHANCE TO MEET IN PERSON MM-HMM.

, BUT HE DID EXPRESS THAT HE, UM, DID OPPOSE BECAUSE HE SPOKE TO I THINK THE TWO OPPOSITION MM-HMM.

THAT, UM, WERE OPPOSING FOR THIS PROPERTY.

UM, AND HE JUST HEARD THEIR CONCERNS AND KIND OF JUST SIDED WITH HIM.

I DO BELIEVE, UM, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, HE MAY HAVE THOUGHT THE SAME WAY THEY DID MM-HMM.

AND THE WHOLE REASON WE WANT TO, WHAT YOU SAID TWO OPPOSITION.

WE AREN'T AWARE OF THAT.

RIGHT.

I DIDN'T, I ACKNOWLEDGE THERE WAS TWO, TWO CALLS OR EMAILS WE RECEIVED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS IN, IN OPPOSITION.

DID YOU SHARE WHAT THE, UH, WE HAVE 'EM AS PART OF THE PUBLIC FILE.

I I CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO YOU.

I'M JUST ASKING.

OKAY.

SO YEAH.

UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT, UH, BRAVE ENOUGH, UH, AS COUNCILMAN ADDISON TO UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ONCE IT COMES TO COUNCIL WITH, UH, A FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH COUNCILMAN, UM, WITH COUNCILMAN DUNN AND EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS IF YOU HAVE PLANS OR WHATEVER.

UH, CUZ HE IS A BUSINESSMAN AND HE UNDERSTANDS.

RIGHT.

SO I DON'T THINK I, AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT SEE TODAY, BUT WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL RIGHTFUL.

I TRIED TO SHOW HIM MY PLANS.

UM, I WILL PROBABLY GET BACK TOGETHER WITH HIM TO TRY TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN.

MM-HMM.

, IT WAS JUST WHAT WE WERE JUST TRYING TO DO WAS TO, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF SINGLE RESIDENT NEIGHBORHOODS MM-HMM.

, UM, OR RESIDENTIALS THAT ARE LIVING ON THAT PROPERTY.

YEAH.

SO WE JUST WANT TO SEE, UM, IT BE CONVERTED TO A MULTI-PROPERTY, A, UH, MULTI-FAMILY HOME SO THAT THEY'RE MULTI-FAMILY ON THAT LOT.

SO THAT, AND ACTUALLY, UM, AS I SAID, I WORK IN THAT AREA.

THERE ARE, EVEN IN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THERE ARE MULTIPLE FAMILIES LIVING IN THOSE HOMES FOR THE SAME REASON PROBABLY THAT YOU ARE INDICATING AND THERE'S A LOT OF VACANCIES IN THAT AREA.

UM, AND, AND SO I SEE ALL THIS AND I CAN ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND, UH, THE NEED.

BUT I THINK THAT IS A CONVERSATION, UM, THAT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO REALLY EXPLAIN HIM.

BUT I EXACTLY, I SEE.

AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

CAUSE I TRAVEL THOSE ROADS EVERY DAY.

OKAY.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

TO BE CLEAR, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS, DID YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION OR, OR, OR DOES IT STAND? OKAY.

SO WAS THERE A MOTION ON, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THERE WAS.

YEAH, YOU, YOU, YOU MADE THE INITIAL MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO YOU, YOU, YOU AT THIS TIME WISH TO WITHDRAW, DRAW THAT MOTION THAT BEFORE YOU WITHDRAW, GO AHEAD AND MAKE, OKAY.

WELL, SO IT STANDS THEN.

AND, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME, UH, HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER HAWTHORNE.

THANK CHAIRMAN.

UM, MY QUESTION IS FOR, UH, MR. PEREZ, YOU WANNA COME BACK TO THE, YOU MAY JUST WANT TO HANG AROUND THE PODIUM UNTIL WE WRAP THIS THING UP, MR. PEREZ .

SO AS, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UM, THIS CURRENT PROPERTY, UM, IS IT A CURRENT HOUSE RIGHT NOW? YES, MA'AM.

SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEMOLISH IT, CORRECT? UH, WE HA I HAVE THE PLANS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THEM.

UM, THE, UM, PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS, UM, HAD THAT CRITERIA, MAN, I THINK IT'S A 7,025, UH, 72, 7,250 SQUARE FOOT LOT AREA ON THE PROPERTY.

AND SO TO BE ABLE TO PUT A DUPLEX ON IT AND TO, UH, KIND OF DEMOLISH A PART OF THE HOME TO HAVE THAT AREA SPACE ON IT TO, UM, BE ABLE TO HOUSE TWO FAMILY UNITS THERE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT, UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING JUST SINGLE, I THINK IT'S A FOUR BEDROOM HOME, BUT IT'S JUST A LOT OF SINGLE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.

SO WE WANT TO KIND OF, WE'RE ENCOURAGING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA REMODEL THE PROPERTY TO WHERE IT'S MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING SINGLE PEOPLE WITH NO, YOU KNOW, NO KIDS NEXT TO A PARK AND LIKE THE SCHOOLING AREA, JUST TO GIVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ANY FAMILY WHO ARE LOOKING TO KIND OF MOVE CLOSER TO THE SCHOOL FOR THEIR CHILDREN OR TO LIKE A PARK, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO, SO YOU OWN THE PROPERTY? UH, MY FATHER DOES.

OKAY.

DID UM, HE LIVE THERE AT ONE POINT OR? WE STILL LIVE THERE.

THEY CURRENTLY LIVE, UH, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

I, LIKE I SAID, I GREW UP HERE ABOUT LIKE, IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS.

YEAH.

I'M STILL AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I, UM, 12 YEARS AGO IS WHENEVER I GREW UP, LIKE WAS PLAYING AROUND IN THE PARK.

UM, I, I'M KIND OF A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, BUT THE, THE FACT THAT, UM, IT IS LIKE A, A ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA.

I, I DON'T KNOW, TO ME IT SORT OF SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE LIKE WE'RE APPROVING LIKE A SPOT ZONING.

UM, IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S KIND OF WHERE, AND IT'S, THE CORNER MIGHT'VE BEEN, IT'S FROM THE CORNER OF TA'S DRIVE AND GREEN OAKS AND YEAH.

UH, AND THEN, AND JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE PICTURES, YOU KNOW, THE AREA OF

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THAT COMMUNITY IS ESTABLISHED AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL OPPOSITIONS.

I'M, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY THOUGHTS, UM, ABOUT THIS AS IT AS IT RELATES TO WHY ARE