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FIRST TIME WE'VE MET THIS YEAR.
UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE, UM, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
IT'S 10 52 FOR THE MUNICIPAL FIRE, POLICE, AND CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.
[1. Roll Call ]
UH, MA'AM, CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, SIR.MR. JOHN SMITH? PRESENT? MR. PRESSON PRESENT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
UH, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN IN THE MEETING WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
[2. Consider Motion to Approve Agenda ]
NONE.LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS TO CONSIDER THE MOTION.
YOU HAVE COPIES OF THE AGENDA IN YOUR FOLDER.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A CHANGE FOR THE THEN.
WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO JUST HANDLE THAT WHEN WE GET TO IT.
[3. Consider Motion to Approve Minutes from November 2022, regular meeting4]
IN THE SECOND.MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER, 2022 MEETING, OF WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR FOLDER.
I WILL, WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES.
MOVED IN, SECONDED BY, UH, MR. SMITH.
MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. ROBINSON.
[4. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Personnel Action Forms ]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.CONSIDER MOTIONS TO APPROVE OR REJECT PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS. WE HAVE ANY? OKAY.
[5. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Applications ]
ALL RIGHT.MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT APPLICATIONS.
[6. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Examination Results ]
ALL RIGHT.CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT RESULT EXAMINATION.
[7. Consider Motion to Call For Examinations in Fire Department - Fire Chief, Chief of Operations, Haz-Mat Chief, Assistant Chief of Fire Investigator, Fire Public Information Officer, Chief Fire Safety Officer, Fire Inspector 1, Fire Inspector 2, Chief Fire Apparatus Technician, Chief of Special Services, Chief Fire Communications Officer, Assistant Chief Fire Communications Officer ]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A CONSIDER A MOTION TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.AND THAT IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE CHANGE.
SO SINCE THE NOVEMBER MEETING, WE DIDN'T POST THE CHANGE FROM THE, THE QUALIFICATIONS TO EACH CLASSIFICATION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT WE POSTPONE CALLING FOR THESE TESTS UNTIL NEXT.
I MEAN, YOU COULD TABLE IT, MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL, UH, NEXT MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO ONE MAY ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THOSE TESTS REAL QUICK.
THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT EIGHT 11 GIRL AUGUSTON, UM, IN, IN DOING WAY WITH US AND PUSHING THESE BACK.
UH, DO WE KNOW, IS THERE ANY TEST ON HERE, UH, THAT ARE, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN CALLED FOR TODAY? OR COULD IT BE NOT BE CALLED FOR TODAY THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE 18 MONTH CYCLE? THERE IS A FEW ON THERE.
COREY, UH, THE ASSISTANT CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR.
MICHAEL HAS ALREADY FOR THAT POSITION.
SO, BUT I ASKED, SO I ASKED THAT QUESTION TO SAY THAT A PERSON IN THAT DIVISION, COULDN'T THEY MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THAT TEST REALLY NEEDS TO BE CALLED FOR VERSUS PUSHING IT BACK, BEING THAT IT'S OUTSIDE THE 18 MONTH TIMEFRAME AND THAT THERE'S NO CURRENT WORKING LIST RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE A SUB APPOINTMENT, WHAT SUBSTITUTE APPOINTMENT DID YOU MAKE THAT LIST OFF OF? UH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO WORKING LIST.
I MEAN, AND I'M, I'M JUST SAYING FOR THE BOARDS, UH, YES.
PROTECTION OR, OR, OR SUGGESTION THAT IT COULD BE, THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO CALL FOR THAT TEST TODAY.
CAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE THE 18 MONTHS.
CAUSE THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE, UH, FOR THAT JOB CHANGED.
UH, I'M LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THE DATE WAS.
THE CHANGES WERE MADE IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING, CORRECT? YEAH.
THE THREE YEARS AND SIX MONTHS.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE CURRENT QUALIFICATION, TIME, TIME AND GRADE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE WORKING OFF OF.
THE CHANGES WERE MADE WHEN, AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
WE WENT FROM 10 YEARS TO FOUR YEARS,
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THE TIME AND GRADE REQUIREMENTS.AND YOU VOTED TO GO BACK TO THREE YEARS AND SIX MONTHS.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT WAS VOTED ON.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT IF THERE'S TESTS ON HERE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE 18 MONTH TIME CYCLE, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY NEED TO BE CALLED FOR, COULDN'T A PERSON MAKE AN ARGUMENT TO SAY THAT THAT TEST NEED, CAUSE THERE IS NO WORKING LIST.
AND IT IS, IT HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK BECAUSE OF THE 10 AND FOUR RULE WAITING TO BE RULED ON BY THE BOARD.
WE POSTPONED IT BECAUSE, UH, BRANDON WANTED THE UNION AND THE CHIEF TO COME TOGETHER ON IT AND REALIZED THAT IT, THAT WASN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
BUT ALL IT, ALL IT HAPPENED WAS THE TIME AND GRADE REQUIREMENTS GOT LOWERED.
SO IT ACTUALLY MADE MORE, MORE PEOPLE QUALIFIED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT TEST.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED IN THAT, IN THAT INSTANCE.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE 18 MONTHS.
IT'S CHANGED, LIKE THE BOARD'S VOTED TO CHANGE IT, BUT WE HAVE TO POST IT FOR 30 DAYS TO MAKE IT LEGAL.
ALL INTERESTED PARTIES HAVE TO BE MADE AWARE THROUGH AN OFFICIAL POSTING FROM THE BOARD OF THE DIFFERENT QUALIFICATIONS THAT, THAT IT GOT CHANGED TO THREE DAYS GOT CHANGED.
SO WE, BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE THAT THAT HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER AND HERE WE ARE WELL OVER 30 DAYS LATER.
WHY HASN'T THOSE POSTS, WHY HAVEN'T THOSE POSTINGS BEEN DONE? THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
THAT MAY JUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS, BUT HEY, AT THIS POINT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD AS TO WHEN THEY CALL FOR TESTS, THOUGH.
I MEAN, IF ANYONE HAS AN ISSUE, THEY'RE WELCOME TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD CAN ADDRESS THAT AT THAT POINT.
UH, BUT FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE AN EXAM CALL FOR IT.
IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT ANYBODY.
I I'M JUST BEGGING A QUESTION CUZ THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TIMES THERE'S A LOT OF TESTS TO KEEP UP WITH, BUT WHO'S, THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THAT BEGS ANOTHER QUESTION.
WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY ISN'T ON THE BOARD ON THE 18 MONTH CYCLE? WHO, WHO, WHO WOULD IT BE DEFAULT ON TO TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TESTS ARE BEING CALLED FOR ON A REGULAR ROUTINE BASIS SO THAT THEY DON'T FALL OUTSIDE THE 18 MONTH TIME? IT'S THE BOARD RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WHO KEEPS UP WITH IT? MS. MS. BREWER.
AND SHE WILL BE KEEPING UP WITH IT.
AND THEN, AND THEN ONCE THOSE GET POSTED, IS THERE ANOTHER ABOUT POSTING, BUT ONCE THIS BOARD APPROVES SAY THAT THE, THAT A POSTING HAS TO BE MADE FOR EXAMS. IS THERE A BUFFER TIME, LIKE 48 HOURS OR 72 HOURS THAT, THAT IT HAS TO BE BEFORE IT CAN BE POSTED AT THE STATIONS.
LIKE FOR, FOR INSTANCE, FOR US AT FIRE STATIONS IS AS LONG AS WE POSTED IT FOR 20 DAYS.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT.
SO THERE'S NO BUFFER THAT SAYS THAT AT BY MINIMUM IT HAS TO BE IN THE STATIONS BY 40, 48 HOURS AFTER IT WAS APPROVED.
ANYTHING, JUST AS LONG AS IT'S POSTED FOR 20 DAYS PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING.
I MEAN, YOU WANT TO, YOU HAVE 20 DAYS FOR POSTINGS, TEST POSTINGS SO THAT YOU CAN, YOU DON'T FALL INTO MISSING A MEETING, CORRECT? IT DOES.
THE BANGARD FIRE DEPARTMENT VOTED TO MAKE IT 20 BECAUSE THE WAY OUR SHIFTS WORK AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
BUT IT ALSO AFFECTS THE POST MAKING SURE THAT THE POST, THE APPLICATIONS GET TURNED IN AND GET APPROVED ON A TIMELY MANNER WITH WITHIN EACH MEETING.
THAT'S JUST A, BUT YEAH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT MEETING, SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO APPLICATION, THERE'S NO BUFFER THAT THERE'S NO TIMEFRAME THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE POSTED ABOUT 4 48 HOURS? NO.
YOU WERE, UH, CONSIDERING A MOTION TO TABLE THE MATTER TILL NEXT.
WE TABLE CALLING FOR THESE EXAMINATIONS UNTIL THE FEBRUARY MEETING.
IS THERE A SECOND? I PROVIDE A SECOND.
[8. Consider Motion to Call for Examinations in Police Department - Communication Specialist 1, Police Cadet, Criminal Intelligence Analyst, Fingerprint Technician 1, Police Criminal Information Specialist 1, Police Captain ]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS CONSIDERED A MOTION TO CALL FOR THE EXAMINATIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST.ONE, POLICE, CADE, CRIMINAL INTELLIGENCE ANALYST, FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN.
ONE, POLICE, CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST ONE, AND POLICE CAPTAIN.
YOU HAVE A MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I SECOND ALL IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY MS. I MEAN, UH, MOTION BY MS. DORSEY.
APPROVED BY, UH, I MEAN SECONDED BY JOHN.
[9. Consider Motion to Accept and Schedule Appeal of Captain Todd David - Fire Department ]
MR. ITEM NUMBER NINE, CONSIDER A MOTION TO EX ACCEPT THE SCHEDULE APPEAL OF CAPTAIN TODD DAVIS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.WE HAVE, UM, SPOKE WITH MR. KERSHAW AND, UH, MS. MS. DON, UM, BEFORE THE MEETING.
THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE FOR APPEALS IS APRIL 24TH, AND BOTH PARTIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR
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APRIL 24TH.WE SCHEDULE THAT APPEAL HEARING FOR APRIL 24TH.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SMITH.
SO WE'VE SCHEDULED THAT FOR APRIL 24TH.
UM, THAT BEING DONE? MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
YOU GUYS JUST GONNA GIVE US A COPY OF THE BUDGET? Y'ALL GONNA, Y'ALL ADJOURN? WHAT? UH, WE HAD A MOTION.
THAT WHY WANTS TO ADJOURN? YEAH, WE ADJOURN.