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GOING.WELCOME TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
GOOD TO HAVE ALL OF YOU LIVE HERE WITH US TODAY AND HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU HAD A FUN-FILLED MARDI GRAS.
AND TODAY'S ASH WEDNESDAY, AND IT'S THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING A COUNCIL MEETING TODAY.
AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE BEING A PART OF OUR MEETING.
WE ARE LIVE ON METRO 21 ON, UH, COX, AND THEN WE'RE ON 99 ON, UH, UVERSE.
WE'RE STREAMING LIVE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND WE ARE ALSO LIVE ON FACEBOOK LIVE.
WELCOME EVERYBODY, AND AT THIS TIME HERE IS THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT PRO TEM OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
[CALL TO ORDER]
TO BRING YOU COUNCIL MI LAMA COLE COUNCILMAN.AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
ASHLEY, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA PASS TO COUNCIL MEMBER SHAWN BANKS TO INTRODUCE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE.
UM, FOR THE INVOCATION, WE HAVE REVEREND GILL WRIGHT, PASTOR OF, UM, NEW LIGHT.
NEW LIGHT, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH OF SCOTLANDVILLE.
COUNCIL WOMAN BANKS FOR THE INVITATION.
CHRIST'S FATHERS, WE COMING FOR YOU TODAY? LORD, WE ASKING THAT YOU WOULD COME AND BE A PART OF THIS MEETING AND THEN, LORD, WE ASKING THAT YOU WOULD USE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN LORD, GIVE THEM THE WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND REVELATION AS THEY DO THE BUSINESS FOR THE CITY.
LORD, WE ASKING THAT YOU BLESS MAYOR BROOM, BLESS ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND BLESS ALL THOSE WHO ARE HERE.
WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU BLESS OUR NATION.
WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU BLESS OUR STATE, OUR CITIES, AND OUR TOWNS.
AND THEN LORD, WE ARE ASKING THAT THE PETITION THAT HAS BEEN MADE BE GRANTED AND THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL DO BUSINESS ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
SARAH PLEDGE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND REPUBLIC FOR WHICH WE STAND ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE RAW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, REVEREND.
[ADOPTION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES OF THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8TH, 2023 AND THE SPECIAL METROPOLITAN COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 15TH, 2023, THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL ZONING MEETING OF FEBRUARY 15TH, 2023 IN THE GREATER BATON ROUGE AIRPORT COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 7TH, 2023 BY THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATIVE TREASURER.IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER AMAROSA, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GOK.
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READ THE INTRODUCTIONS? SECTION 2.12.INTRODUCTIONS NUMBER TWO, AMENDING THE 2023 CURRENT EXPENSE BUDGET.
SO IT'S APPROPRIATE $17,500 FOR A VETERANS BUS RIDERSHIP PASS PROGRAM FROM GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE UNASSIGNED BY COUNCILMAN HURST AND THE MAYOR PRESIDENT.
NUMBER THREE, AMENDING ORDINANCE 1 8 7 33 TO ADD DEFINITIONS AND PROVISIONS FOR VETERAN OWNED BUSINESSES, SPECIFICALLY TO PROVIDE AN EXEMPTION OR REDUCED TAX BY COUNCILMAN DARYL HURST.
COUNCILMAN AARON MO COUNCILWOMAN DENISE MARISO AND COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER ROCKA.
NUMBER FOUR, AMENDING ORDINANCE 94 90 AS AMENDED BY PARISH ORDINANCE 5 1 23 AND CITY ORDINANCE 38 43 AS AMENDED BY PARISH ORDINANCE 5 9 26 AND CITY ORDINANCE 46 92 CITY PARISH ORDINANCE 76 86 CITY PARISH ORDINANCE 1 12 2 78 AND CITY PARISH ORDINANCE 13 4 78 CITY PARISH ORDINANCE 1 7 1 94.
PARTICULARLY THE LIST OF EXCEPTIONS TO THE REQUIRED PARKING FEE TO ADD A DISCOUNTED BREAK FOR VETERANS AND OF THE ARMED FORCES BY COUNCILMAN DARYL HARRIS.
COUNCILMAN AARON MO, COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN, DENISE MARISO AND COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER ROCKA.
NUMBER FIVE, AMENDING THE 2023 ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE 19TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT, FAMILY COURT AND JUVENILE COURT.
SO AS TO APPROPRIATE $560,000 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR NEEDED COURT REPORTING AND OTHER PERSONAL NE PERSONNEL NEEDS BY THE MAYOR.
PRESIDENT CONDEMNATION INTRODUCTIONS NUMBER SIX, JOSEPH MONTERO, 1 8 5 18 19 8 55 DEER CREEK DRIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE NOEL NUMBER SEVEN, THE ESTATE OF WILLIE LEE GEORGE IN THE ESTATE OF MATTIE SCOTT GEORGE, 28 84, UH, J STREET COUNCIL.
DISTRICT TWO BANKS, NUMBER EIGHT, CHERRI L GIBBS 7,105 NORTH BUTTONWOOD DRIVE
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COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE HURST.NUMBER NINE, THE ESTATE OF BEN A BEN DANIELS JR.
50 38 ROSELAWN AVENUE COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN COLE NUMBER 10, SPECKLE TROUT PROPERTIES, LLC 54 55 PARKVIEW CHURCH ROAD COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT, AMMAR ROSA, NUMBER 11 TIMOTHY HURL BRINK 93 3 HORSESHOE DRIVE, COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE HUDSON NUMBER 12, JAMES CARL BEASON AND CLAUDIA PHILLIPS BEASON, 93 89 HORSESHOE DRIVE, COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE HUDSON NUMBER 13, TINA MARIE DEN CAMP 94 66 HORSESHOE DRIVE, COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE HUDSON.
NUMBER 14, SUCCESSION OF ELEANOR NEWMAN 2054 TENNESSEE STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 15, MARGARET D. TAYLOR, 44 32 BEWELL STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT 12 RACA ADJUDICATED PROPERTY INTRODUCTIONS NUMBER 16 LOT TWO PLUS AND 46 SQUARE THREE SUBDIVISION NORTH HIGHLANDS EDITION COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE HURST NUMBER 17 LOT 84 A SUBDIVISION, MARYLAND FARMS COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS NUMBER 18 LOT 18 SUBDIVISION BROOKSTOWN COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN COLE NUMBER 19 LOT 17 PART SQUARE 2 35 SUBDIVISION MAGNUS COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 20 LOT THREE SQUARE TWO SUBDIVISION UNIVERSITY GARDENS COUNCIL DISTRICT 12 ROCA NUMBER 21 LOT C4 SUBDIVISION DIGS TRACK COUNCIL DISTRICT 10, COLEMAN NUMBER 22 LOT 21 SUBDIVISION VILLAGE TO PROVINCE COUNCIL.
DISTRICT EIGHT, AMAROSA NUMBER 23 LOT 16 A SQUARE SUBDIVISION SUBDIVISION UNIVERSITY PLACE COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS NUMBER 24 LOT 16 SQUARE EIGHT SUBDIVISION UNIVERSITY PLACE COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS NUMBER 25 LOT 20 SQUARE K SUBDIVISION NORTH FAIRFIELD COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN COLE NUMBER 26 LOT 68 PLUS SQUARE TWO SUBDIVISION RICHMOND PARK COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN COLE NUMBER 27 LOT 14 PART AND 15 PART SQUARE 12 SUBDIVISION NORTHDALE COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 28 LOT 24 PLUS SQUARE 17 SUBDIVISION UNIVERSITY PLACE COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS NUMBER 29 LOT 33 SQUARE 18 SUBDIVISION SOUTH BATON ROUGE SUB, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE, GOE NUMBER 30 LOT 90 SUBDIVISION MAYFAIR HEIGHTS COUNCIL DISTRICT 12 RACA NUMBER 31 LOT NINE SUBDIVISION BUTLER PLACE COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 32 LOT SIX PART SQUARE 2 66.
COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN NUMBER 33 LOT 19 SQUARE 19 SUBDIVISION SOUTH BATON ROUGE COUNCIL DISTRICT 10, COLEMAN NUMBER 34, LOT SIX SUBDIVISION FRATERNITY PLACE COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS.
ALL ITEMS THAT REQUIRE READING HAVE BEEN READ.
AND A MOTION TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS AS AN ORDER.
MOTION TO INTRODUCE, UH, BY COUNCIL MEMBER JEN ROCKER.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUN JR.
ALL ITEMS REQUIRING INTRODUCTION HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED.
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PLEASE COUNCIL NUMBERS GO TO YOUR SEPARATE SHEET FOR CONDEMNATIONS.I'M GONNA READ THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY ARE.
THEY ARE TO PROCEED WITH ITEM 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, AND 71.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON A CONDEMNATION? ANYONE HERE WILL NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS? WE DO HAVE A, UH, WISHING TO SPEAK WILLARD SIMS. WILLARD SIMS. WE HAVE, UH, COME TO THE MIC PLEASE FOR ME, SIR, I WILL COME TO THE MIC PLEASE FOR ME, SIR, WE HAVE ITEM 71 COTTON STREET, 5 58 COTTON STREET.
WANNA THANK YOU FOR LETTING US COME HERE TODAY.
WE ALSO WANNA THANK MRS. CAROLYN COLEMAN FOR WORKING WITH US OVER THIS STRONG AND LONG AGENDA FOR SAVING 5 58 COTTON STREET.
I PURCHASED THIS, UM, IN TAXES AND I SPENT OVER $130,000 IN BOARDING UP THE PLACES AND THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO OWNED THE PLACE CAME BACK AND BOUGHT A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, BUT NOT 5 58 COTTON STREET.
AND NOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABANDONED, BUT I AM A TAX PERSON WHO PAID TAXES.
THIS IS MY LAWYER ATTORNEY STEVE ADAMS, WHO HAS FILED FOR ME TO HAVE QUITE THE TITLE, BUT IT HASN'T GONE THROUGH YET.
AND THEY STILL WANT ME TO ABANDON THE PLACE OR TEAR IT DOWN, BUT THE OWNER STILL OWNS IT, NOT ME.
LEGALLY, THE OWNER IS OWNING IT, NOT ME.
ALL I DID WAS PAY THE TAXES AND TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK PLEASANT.
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MY LAWYER WILL SPEAK MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.UM, I AM STEVE ADAMS, UH, MS. ROBERTSON'S ATTORNEY.
UM, SHE'S PAID THE TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY FOR 10 YEARS.
RIGHT? AND, UM, WE HAVE, WE FILED A PETITION TO QUIET TAX TITLE, WHICH IS PENDING IN THE 19TH, A D C.
UM, AS Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW, THERE'S A WAITING PERIOD FROM THE TIME YOU FILE IT TILL THE TIME YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE HEARING.
WE HAVE, UH, FILED A MOTION TO SET IT FOR HEARING AND, UM, IT'S ASSIGNED TO JUDGE, UH, JUDGE
UM, MRS. UM, ROBERTSON HAS NOT BEEN, UH, IDLY SITTING BY, UH, STALLING ON THIS.
UH, SHE CAN'T GET PERMANENT FINANCING UNTIL SHE GET, WE GET THIS TAX TITLE THING STRAIGHTENED OUT, WHICH I, I BELIEVE THE COURT WILL RULE IN OUR FAVOR ON THAT.
IN THE MEANTIME, SHE'S SPENT A HUNDRED AND ALMOST $123,000, UH, IN COST OF REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE A COPY OF THAT COUNSEL, THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND, UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED, UH, A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, NUMBER ONE, TO HAVE THE COURT HEARING.
I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHAT HIS DOCKET IS LIKE, BUT, UH, AS SOON AS WE CAN GET INTO COURT, WE'LL HA AND, AND SHE GETS TITLED TO THE PROPERTY, SHE CAN GET THE PERMANENT FINANCING SHE NEEDS TO MAKE THE REPAIRS THAT SHE WANTS TO MAKE.
UM, SHE WENT, SHE HAD TWO LAWYERS BEFORE ME THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO GET MUCH DONE.
UH, BUT, UM, SHE'S BEEN TRYING
AND, UH, WE WOULD ASK YOUR INDULGENCE AND, UH, AND GIVING US, UH, A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THAT TITLE, UH, CLEAR AND TO OBTAIN THE FINANCING THAT IS NEEDED TO REHABILITATE THE PROPERTY COUNCIL MEMBER CALL ME.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY ON COTTON STREET, AND AS MS. ROBINSON STATED, YES, WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME THAT, AND IT IS BACK ON THE LIST AT THIS POINT.
I GUESS I'M ASKING WHAT IS YOUR REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING, AND THEN WHAT I ALSO LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT I MAKE MENTION HERE IS THAT OTHER CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE NEAR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY HAVE CONCERNS MM-HMM.
BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE REASONABLE, UH, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BECAUSE WE'VE GIVEN TIME AND WE'VE GIVEN TIME AND WE'VE GIVEN TIME, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE PUT IN MONEY IN AND ALL OF THIS AND PAID FOR 10 YEARS AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET A TAX TITLE THING AND ALL OF THIS.
BUT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AS REASONABLE? WELL, UH, MADAM COUNCILMAN, THE, UH, THE THING THAT WE, WE CANNOT, UH, GUESSTIMATE IS THE DATE.
I WOULD ASSUME WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
UM, AND THEN ONCE WE GET A JUDGMENT, UM, WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL WITH THE FINANCING AND, AND, AND GET THIS PROPERTY BACK IN SHIP SHAPE.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE.
SO I GOT TO KNOW WHAT IS REASONABLE.
I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT A TIMEFRAME HERE.
AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T DETERMINE WHEN COURT WILL BE, JUST AS, I CAN'T DETERMINE THAT MM-HMM.
AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IS YOU'VE GOT TO WAIT, I THINK IT'S SIX MONTHS AFTER YOU FILE THE PETITION OF QUIET TAX TITLE FOR THE, UH,
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RECORD OWNERS TO COME IN AND ASSERT ANY CLAIM THEY HAVE.UM, AND SO WE BASICALLY HAD TO JUST SIT ON IT FOR, FOR THAT TIME.
SO THAT WAS ONE, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE DELAYS.
BUT, UM, WE NOW THAT TIME IS NOW ELAPSED, WE'RE AWAITING A HEARING DATE.
UM, TIME IS THAT, CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE JUDGE GET THIS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU, ACCORDING TO YOUR PAPERWORK HERE, THAT YOU PUT SOME MONEY INTO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, MS. ROBERTSON, ACCORDING TO THIS, AND, AND, AND I HAVE, I'VE I'VE DONE SOME TIME AND TIME AND TIME.
AND THEN J UH, AS FAR AS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT DOORS AND LOCKS AND BOARDED UP, AND I'M EVEN ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CLEANUP AROUND IT AND THE GRASS CUT AND THE, ALL OF THIS.
OH, I'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT SINCE I'VE, THE CITY WANTED $1,500 TO COVER THE CUT.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T.
SO THAT WAS WHEN I FIRST ACQUIRED FROM LOUISA STREET TO COTTON STREET MM-HMM.
AND I STARTED WITH A LAWN CARE SERVICE, WHICH CHARGED $150 PER MONTH JUST TO TAKE CARE OF THE ENTIRE SECTION UNTIL THE FAMILY CAME BACK AND BOUGHT ONE SECTION OF IT.
TOOK CARE OF THE SHRUBBERY, TOOK CARE OF ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE OTHER NEEDS THAT WERE NEEDED.
WEED EATING, TRIPPING, SHRUBBERY.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER ONE? DO YOU PAY TAXES ON BOTH OR JUST ONE.
OF UNIT, ONE UNIT I PAY TAXES.
WHAT OTHER, WHEN I, OKAY, LET ME, YOU MENTIONED, OKAY, THERE'S THIS SECTION THAT'S A HOUSE AND THAT'S 5 52.
RIGHT BEHIND THAT HOUSE IS AN ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, WHICH HAS A COOKOUT AREA WHERE ENTERTAINMENT WAS IN THREE, THE GARAGES, A BATHROOM, THE BARBECUE GRILL, ET CETERA.
WHEN I ORIGINALLY STARTED, I HAD THE WHOLE UNIT.
NOW THE UNIT I ONLY HAVE NOW IS THE COTTON STREET UNIT, WHICH IS A SMALL FOURPLEX.
TWO, TWO BEDROOMS IN ONE, ONE BEDROOM, TWO, TWO BEDROOMS IN TWO, ONE BEDROOM.
AND THAT'S THE SECTION THAT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH.
NOW, THE OWNERS HAVE SOLD THE COOKOUT AND THEY'VE SOLD 5 52 LOUISA, AND THEY'VE EVEN OFFERED TO SELL COTTON STREET, BUT IT HAD BEEN ILLEGAL FOR ME TO SELL IT BECAUSE THE TITLE ISN'T CLEAR.
SO THEN THE CITY EVEN SENT, UH, THE TAX ASSESSOR SENT THE TAX FOR COTTON STREET BACK TO ME FOR 2021.
AND I CALLED THEM, THEY SENT ME A CHECK AND I CALLED THEM AND THEY SAID THAT, UM, THAT WAS A CHECK THAT THEY SENT, BUT I DIDN'T CASH IT.
I WENT ON AND PAID 2022 TAXES AS I HAD BEEN PAYING, BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO TAKE THE, THE PROPERTY BACK FROM ME.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, I THINK A SAFE DATE WOULD BE PERHAPS FOUR MONTHS.
THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN CAN PROVIDE IS 90 DAYS.
I'M SORRY, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN CAN PROVIDE IS 90 DAYS.
BUT IT'S TOTALLY UP TO COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO WORK WITH 90 DAYS.
AND AFTER 90, IF YOU ALL HAVE NOT DONE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WE'RE GOING PROCEED WITH WHAT WE NEED TO PROCEED WITH.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON A CONDEMNATION.
MY NAME IS WILLARD SIMS. UH, THANK YOU.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, GIVEN SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO MY FELLOW SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY LABORATORY SCHOOL GRADUATES, UH, COUNCILMAN HURST AND COUNCILWOMAN BANKS.
UM, I'M AN OWNER OF THE HOME THAT SITS JUST ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, WAS JUST SPOKEN TO, PARTICULARLY THE, UH, FOUR, UH, UH, THE TWO STORY DUPLEX RATHER.
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TRYING AS BEST AS I CAN TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE WITH THE PROPERTY FOR OVER SIX YEARS.IN FACT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN TARA WICKER WAS THE COUNCILWOMAN WHEN I FIRST ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS.
AND NOW I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGES WORKING WITH COUNCILWOMAN COLEMAN.
AND I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT ALTHOUGH, UH, AND CERTAINLY HAVING NO ANIMUS TOWARDS, UM, THE LADY AND THE LAWYER WHO SPOKE, UH, FOR SIX YEARS, THE DUPLEXES BASICALLY SAT IN THE SAME STATE THAT IT CURRENTLY IS NOW.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO PHOTOS, BUT LITERALLY THERE IS GROWTH COMING OUT OF THE ROOF.
AND APPARENTLY NONE OF THAT $100,000 THAT WAS SPOKEN OF, UH, TOWARDS THE, UH, CONTINUAL PROCESS OF, OF HOLDING ONTO THIS PROPERTY WAS PUT FORTH FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE FOR TRIMMING SHRUBS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, I HAD TO, ALONG WITH MY SISTER, WHO'S A JOINT OWNER, HAVE HAD TO BEAR THE COST OF TAXES UPKEEP ON THE HOME.
IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY, AND IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SELL, EXCUSE ME, TO RENT SUCH A PROPERTY WHEN IT'S SIX NETS TO AN EYESORE.
AND THERE'S ALSO THE CONCERN TO GIVE IN THE PROXIMITY OF MY HOME AND THE DETERIORATION THAT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN OF A POSSIBLE FIRE, WHICH IS CERTAINLY IF THAT STRUCTURE CATCHES ON FIRE, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT MY HOME.
SO THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF THINGS THAT BRING ME TO, UH, THIS POINT.
AND I AM STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF PROCEEDING WITH THE CONDEMNATION.
UH, I THINK THAT HOPES AND PROMISES ARE FINE, BUT TANGIBLE ACTIONS AND RESULTS HAVE TO ACCOMPANY THOSE PROMISES.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, IN SIX YEARS, I HAVE SEEN NONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE OF RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHO IS HOLDING ONTO THIS PROPERTY, BUT FROM MY VANTAGE POINT, THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
I'M HAVING TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF THE, THE RESULTS OF THE INACTION OF THE, THE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY.
AND I FELT, I FEEL THAT SUFFICIENT TIME HAS BEEN ALLOWED FOR SO COUNCILWOMAN COLEMAN, I WOULD STRONGLY URGE TO PROCEED WITH THE CONDEMNATION.
I, I THINK THAT IS MORE THAN FAIR.
I THINK MORE THAN ENOUGH REASONABLE TIME HAS BEEN GIVEN.
AND, AND I THINK THIS IS JUST TIME TO HAVE THIS MATTER PUT TO REST ONCE AND FOR ALL.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ANY CONDEMNATION? ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE CONDEMNATION? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, RACHEL, CAN, WOULD YOU COME PLEASE AND LET ME KNOW, UM, WHAT IS IT, ITEM NUMBER 61, THAT WOODLAND DRIVE? HAVE THEY PULLED PERMITS ON THAT OR ANYTHING? CAN YOU TELL ME? YES, MA'AM.
I SEE THAT THEY'VE ATTEMPTED AT ONE TIME TO PULL PERMITS, BUT WE'RE STILL ON FOUNDATION.
WE'LL COME BACK TO, SO THEY'VE APPLIED FOR PERMITS, IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, WE SENT A COMMENT LETTER THAT BASICALLY SAID, PLEASE PROVIDE A DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK TO BE THROUGH THE COURSE OF THIS RENOVATION.
WE ATTACHED A QUESTIONNAIRE TO COVER ALL AREAS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, SO BASICALLY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DO A PLAN REVIEW OKAY.
IN ORDER TO ISSUE THEM A PERMIT CURRENTLY.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN NO PERMITS? NO MA'AM.
OKAY, COUNCIL NUMBER MO? YEAH.
UM, BACK TO, UH, 71 MS. CAROLYN, IF I, IF I MAY JOIN IN WITH YOU HERE.
UH, LOOKING AT THE PICTURES AND EVERYTHING THEY SAID, UM, HOW LONG HAVE Y'ALL BEEN WAITING? THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE 71, ARE THEY STILL HERE? NO.
SO THEY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE, UM, THEY'RE WAITING ON THEIR TAX PAYMENTS OR HOW MUCH THEY OWE OR BACK TAXES THAT YOU'RE CATCHING UP ON.
DID THEY GET CAUGHT UP WITH THAT? IS THAT WHAT THEY SAID? NO.
FROM WHAT I GATHER, THEY HAVE A TAX TITLE THING.
A TAX TITLE ISSUE WITH, UM, THE OWNER.
AND SHE HAS BEEN PAYING TAXES ON IT, BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY
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GET ALL OF HER PAPERWORK IN LINE, HAVING TO GO TO COURT TO HAVE IT, UM, ACTUALLY GIVEN TO OKAY.THAT, THAT'S WHAT I, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, SO YOU BUY, WHEN YOU BUY A PROPERTY AT TAX SALE, THE SHERIFF'S AUCTION, RIGHT? SHE BROUGHT US A TAX SALE.
AND SO SHE'S BEEN PAYING THE TAXES FOR 10 YEARS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT YOU HAVE TO, WHAT HE CALL QUIET THE TITLE, MEANING THAT IT GIVES YOU FREE AND CLEAR TITLE TO THAT PROPERTY.
BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAITING PERIOD.
YOU HAVE TO DO THE 10 YEARS AND THEN, UM, AND THEN YOU FILE AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT A CERTAIN PRESCRIBED AMOUNT OF PERIOD OF TIME TO LET ANY POTENTIAL REDEMPTIVE, UM, PERSONS COME UP.
WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT LEVEL YET.
WHAT ARE WE, WHAT, WHAT IS SHE WAITING ON FROM A, FROM A COURT, UH, TO SCHEDULE THE, AFTER SHE'S, I GUESS, LET THE SIX MONTH REDEMPTIVE PERIOD.
AND SO THEY'RE WAITING ON THEIR COURT DATE AFTER THAT IN ORDER FOR THE JUDGE TO GLARE HER, THE OWNER AND CLEAR THE TITLE.
SO SHE MISSED A PARTICULAR DATE TO FINALIZE THIS? NO, I THINK SHE'S STILL WAITING ON THE JUDGE TO SCHEDULE THE DATE.
I JUST HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING ELAPSED, SO, OH, NO.
LIKE AS IN, YOU HAVE TO LET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME ELAPSE AFTER, AFTER, UM, YOU FILE TO QUIET THE TITLE.
UH, SO WE'RE IN THAT TIME PERIOD NOW.
THERE'S NO WAY TO, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE HANDLING A CITY PARISH? NO, SIR.
THIS IS LIKE A STATE LAW FOLLOWS THE, THE STATE, UM, TITLE, YOU KNOW, AND LAWS.
SO WE'RE WAITING FOR SOMETHING FROM A JUDGE OUTSIDE OF OUR REALM.
THERE'S NO WAY TO EXPEDITE THIS OR GET IT? NO, SIR.
UH, PUSHED OR ANY ASSISTANCE THAT WE CAN GIVE.
SHE WAS BASICALLY STATING THAT BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T OWN FREE AND CLEAR TITLE, THAT SHE CAN'T PULL ANY FUNDING.
LIKE SHE CAN'T GET A LOAN WHILE USING THIS PROPERTY AS COLLATERAL.
BECAUSE SHE'S NOT THE FREE AND CLEAR TITLE OWNER.
IT'S ALSO NOT PROHIBITING HER FROM SPENDING ANY OF HER OWN DOLLARS ON IT.
OBVIOUSLY SHE SPENT SOME DOLLARS, SO, OKAY.
I, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PICTURES AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD DEFER TO, UM, COUNCILWOMAN COLEMAN AS FAR AS WHAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO DO, BUT I JUST LOOKING AT THESE B LOTS AND, AND WHEN SHE MENTIONED THAT SHE'S BEEN DEALING WITH THIS, OR THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER YEAH, WE'RE READY TO TEAR IT DOWN.
WE'VE TESTED IT AND WE'RE ABOUT TO TEAR IT DOWN.
HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, WE WERE, UM, LET KNOW ABOUT A SUCCESSION THAT WAS GOING ON, SO WE HAD TO REEVALUATE AND RE LIKE, REDO THE CONDEMNATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, OR CONDEMNATIONS? I'M GONNA READ STATED, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND CHANGES.
THEY ARE TO PROCEED WITH ITEM 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 69, AND 70 DEFERRED FOR 30 DAYS.
ITEM 66 AND 71 COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONDEMNATIONS MOTION? IS THERE A MOTION TO SUM MOVE BY COUNCIL? SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ALL CONDEMN NATIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL NOW GO TO PAGE 14, ITEM 72,
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THE QUESTION OF METROPOLITAN COUNCIL TO APPOINT THREE MEMBERS FROM THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL TO MAYOR BROOM, STORMWATER ADVISORY.COMMITTED BY MAYOR PRESENT ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 72? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 72? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, ASHLEY, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE AT THIS TIME? UM, Y'ALL CAN NOMINATE THREE MEMBERS TO SERVE SO SOMEONE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT A PARTICULAR THREE MEMBERS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBERS LORI ADAMS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, SHAUNA BANKS AND COUNCIL MEMBER DWIGHT HUDSON.
I SECOND THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER HEARST.
OH, THERE'S BEEN A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
DO YOU DECLINE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS? UH, SO COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON AND COUNCILMAN GOK.
IS THERE ANY NOBODY HAS DECLINED THE OFFER.
CONGRATULATIONS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
YOU ALL HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO THE STORM ORDER COMMITTEE.
[Items 73 & 97]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ARE GONNA TAKE ITEM 73 AND 97 BACK TO BACK.ITEM 73, REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER STUDY AND AMENDING THE UDC TO PUT IN PLACE A DISTANCE LIMITATIONS FOR PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALS BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEARST.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 73? WE HAVE A FEW WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 73.
UH, STATE SENATOR REGINA BARROW IS HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 73.
COME ON DOWN AT THAT THIS TIME I WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE BUILDING THAT I SEE.
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STEWART REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL BOARD.AND I ALSO SEE, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, DARIUS LANDIS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
AND AGAIN, OUR SENATOR REGINA BARROW IS HERE WITH US.
WHO'S GONNA SPEAK NOW? SENATOR BARROW.
WE ALSO HAVE A PA COUNCIL MEMBER.
JOSEPH, WHERE ARE YOU? RIGHT HERE.
HOW YOU DOING MS. JOSEPH? THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.
THANK YOU MR. PROTE AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
DO I SPEAK ON 73 AND 97 TOGETHER OR WILL THEY BE SEPARATE? WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE.
WELL, I WILL SPEAK ON BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER.
AND SO FOR YOU, UM, YOU ALL, AS OPERATORS, YOU MAY HAVE A STANDARD THAT IS HIGH, BUT IF WE, IF THE, IF WE ARE, WE CAN'T JUST PROTECT, UM, THE RESIDENTS BASED ON THE CURRENT FACILITY, BASED ON THE CURRENT OPERATOR.
WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THESE THINGS ARE GONNA GO LONG AFTER WE LEAVE.
WE KNOW HOW FREQUENT IT IS FOR FACILITIES SUCH AS THIS, HOSPITALS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, TO NOW CHANGE OWNERSHIP.
AND WE MAY GET SOMEBODY WHO DOES NOT HAVE, UM, THE SAME SENSE OF VALUE AND COMMITMENT.
SO THAT IS WHY, UM, THESE THINGS ARE NECESSARY TO BE MORE, UM, TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON, IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PARISH.
I KNOW, I DO ALSO THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A STUDY AND BEING ON PLANNING AND, AND ZONING.
I WOULD BE, I WOULD FEEL MORE, UM, COMFORTABLE IN BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT HAVING THE STUDY BEFORE WE WOULD MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A STUDY MM-HMM.
AND, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TIME TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR NOT, BUT I WOULD WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
DID YOU WANT TO, HUH? I HEAR YOU AS AMENDED.
WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND DO IT, BECAUSE I'M JUST KIND OF READY TO, UH, I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED NUMBER ITEM NUMBER 73.
THERE'S A MOTION BY HER SECONDED BY BANKS IS DURING THE OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION FOR THE STUDY.
I'D LIKE TO VOTE ON THE MACHINES, PLEASE.
IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION, EVERYBODY AGREES, BUT IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON MACHINES ON THIS ONE, WE CAN, BUT THERE'S NO OPPOSITION.
ITEM 97, EX EXPRESSING THE OPPOSITION OF THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE AND PARIS OF EAST BATON ROUGE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN OPERATION OF ANY FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL IN WHICH THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS WITHIN TWO MILES OF A SCHOOL OR ONE MILE OF A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BY COUNCILMAN HURST.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF YOU WHO'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ON ITEM 97, BUT IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 97? ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 97? WHEN NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MANY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ON ITEM 97.
SOMEONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 97? COME ON.
STATE'S NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
KEISHA ROBINSON, 27 36 FLORIDA BOULEVARD.
I DID SPEAK EARLIER, BUT LISTENING TO, UM, THE QUESTIONS FOR, UM, ITEM 73, 73 ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, UM, FORENSIC THE DEFINITION, THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S DONE AND EVERYTHING BEFORE MAKING A MAJOR DECISION.
AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE MOVED BY EMOTIONS.
ANY INCIDENT CAN TRIGGER SOMEONE EMOTIONS, A DIVORCE, A ILLNESS, DEATH OF A LOVED ONE.
ALL OF THOSE ARE TRIGGERS THAT CAN TRIGGER YOUR MENTAL HEALTH.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS AND MR. TEMPLE, UM, WITH UPPER MANAGEMENT, BUT BEING DIRECTLY IN THE WORK OF MENTAL HEALTH, THOSE NUMBERS, HE WAS BEING VERY MODEST WITH 'EM.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING TODAY AND WE HAVE SUCCESS STORIES.
AGAIN, IF YOU ARE TAKING YOUR DAUGHTER OR YOUR GRANDCHILD TO THE MOVIES, YOU CAN CLEARLY HAVE A INDIVIDUAL THAT HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME AND HAVE PAID THEIR TIME TO SOCIETY THAT COULD BE IN THE SAME THEATER WITH YOU.
SO FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THAT'S $300,000 HOMES IN GLEN OAKS.
BUT WHAT IF THAT INDIVIDUAL SELL THEIR HOME AND THAT PERSON HAVE PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY AND THEY BUY THE HOME IN DISTRICT FIVE?
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SO WHEN YOU ARE MAKING THOSE TYPE OF DECISIONS, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ACTING AS PUBLIC SERVANT AND NOT OFF EMOTION.AS COUNCILWOMAN COLEMAN STATED, MENTAL HEALTH IS A ISSUE THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IN THIS ROOM CAN SAY THAT WE CAN RELATE TO.
SO THE STUDY OF THE UDC, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT MENTAL HEALTH, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN BANKS FOR MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE IT'S EASY FOR US TO HAVE A STUDY, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE EXPERTS THAT WORK EVERY DAY IN THE FIELD, BEST PRACTICES, UM, SO WHEN THOSE INDIVI INDIVIDUALS LEAVE EAST, THAT GOES TO EITHER HARMONY CENTER OR TO GRACE OUTREACH IN NEW ORLEANS, WE HAVE PROGRAM, UH, PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF LOUISIANA.
SO MY PLEA TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, BEFORE YOU CAST A VOTE, DO A I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
B AT ANY GIVEN TIME, CAN IT BE SOMEONE IN MY FAMILY OR MY HOME? IT'S NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE.
MENTAL HEALTH HITS AFRICAN-AMERICAN, CAUCASIAN, LATINOS, ASIANS, EVERYONE.
SO WE ARE NOT GONNA PLAY THE RACE GAME.
WE ARE GONNA PLAY THE GAME THAT AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WHEN THE STOCK MARKET CRASH, WILL MY MENTAL HEALTH BE TRIGGERED? THANK YOU, MA'AM.
STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
KELLY STEIN, 56 47 H END AVENUE.
UM, THIS IS POSSIBLY MORE OF A QUESTION.
I'M JUST NOTICING THAT IN THIS, THAT IT, THERE ARE SOME MATTERS THAT SEEM A LITTLE BIT VAGUE.
SO IT SAYS TWO MILES OF A SCHOOL.
DOES THE TYPE OF SCHOOL MATTER? UM, ARE YOU TALKING JUST, YOU KNOW, K THROUGH EIGHT? ARE YOU TALKING, UM, PRESCHOOLS? ARE YOU TALKING DAYCARE FACILITIES? ARE YOU TALKING, UH, COMMUNITY COLLEGES? YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE ARE SCHOOLS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS, AGE LEVELS.
AND THEN ALSO IT SAYS, UH, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
CAN THAT BE QUANTIFIED IN SOME KIND OF WAY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT'S ALL I THANK YOU, MA'AM.
STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS NAYIR RANSOM, UM, 41 55 ESSEN LANE.
UM, AND THOUGH I'M NOT IN THE GLEN OAKS AREA, UM, THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD TODAY AND ALSO FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS AS I'VE BEEN COMING TO THE METRO MEETINGS, BRINGS TO ME THE IDEA OF DO WE WANT A THRIVING BATON ROUGE OR NOT? UM, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT WE'RE BOILING IT DOWN TO.
I'VE HEARD COMMENTS FROM MR. TEMPLE, UM, RHETORIC CONCERNING YOUNG PEOPLE, WHICH IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME, UM, IN THE CRIMINALIZATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE.
UM, I'VE ALSO HEARD COMMENTS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THREE OTHER FACILITIES OF THIS NATURE, WHICH TO ME IS LIKE, JUST BECAUSE THEY CURRENTLY EXIST DOES NOT MEAN THEY SHOULD CONTINUE TO, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CAPACITY.
UM, WHY CONTINUE TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN? THAT IS ALBERT EINSTEIN'S DEFINITION OF INSANITY.
UM, AND I WOULD VERY MUCH ENCOURAGE THE METRO COUNCIL, UM, AND ALSO FOLKS WHO, UH, HAVE BEEN SILENT ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER TO ASK THEMSELVES WHAT TYPE OF BATON ROUGE ARE THEY BUILDING, UM, BY THEIR SILENT ACCEPTANCE OF CONTINUING TO PUSH FACILITIES INTO ALREADY DISENFRANCHISED NEIGHBORHOODS.
BECAUSE WHETHER IT IS A, YOU KNOW, ISSUE OF SAFETY OR NOT, WHAT IT IS, IS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.
AND WHAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO IS PULL THE LEGS OUT FROM UNDER FOLKS WITH CONTINUED RIGHT TO BEAR THE BRUNT OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING A, UH, BETTER COMMUNITY FOR OTHERS.
RIGHT? SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN, YOU KNOW, MAKING THESE PLANS, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO LIKE, DIG DEEP AND DECIDE WHAT KIND OF CITY YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRODUCE IN THE FUTURE.
BECAUSE CLEARLY THIS HAS BEEN A THING THAT'S BEEN IN A, IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME, AS MOST OF THESE THINGS ARE.
UM, SO THE DECISIONS THAT WE ARE MAKING TODAY ARE NOW GOING TO IMPACT PEOPLE 10 YEARS FROM NOW, RIGHT? SO THINK ABOUT THE BATON ROUGE YOU WANNA HAVE IN A DECADE IN 20 YEARS, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, EXACERBATE INSANE INEQUALITIES ACROSS OUR CITY.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER ARD AND I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.
I'VE BEEN AN ALCOHOLIC FOR LAST 39
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YEARS, LAST 30 YEARS.I WAS IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE OF MY ADDICTION.
I'VE BEEN TO THE FACILITIES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I HAD TO GO TO HALFWAY HO HALFWAY HOMES IN THIS CITY.
SO I DON'T SPEAK AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT OR CONCERNED OR A CONCERNED RESIDENT.
I SPEAK FOR SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN IN THE SYSTEM, WHO'S BEEN IN THESE FACILITIES.
WHAT P****S ME OFF IS THAT COMMON SENSE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD.
I THINK THE FACILITIES NEED TO BE OVERHAULED SLEEPING IN THREE, UH, THREE BEDS TO, UH, IN, IN A ROOM EATING DAY OLD FOOD, TRYING TO GET CLEAN, TRYING TO GET SOBER.
SOME OF YOU THAT I KNOW, I ORDER WATER AND COKE EVERYWHERE I GO.
WANNA KNOW WHY? BECAUSE EVERY DAY I WANT TO DRINK.
BUT THE ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE TO DO IN MY SOBRIETY IS DO THE STEPS IS BE OF SERVICE.
THAT'S WHY I BOTHER, THAT'S WHY I BOTHER MY COUNCILMAN WHO I'VE KNOWN BECAUSE I WANNA BE OF SERVICE.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE NEW LAWS, NEW LEGISLATION RIGHT NOW ON HOW FACILITIES OF THIS KIND CAN BE, CAN BE SET UP.
THEY WILL SAY THERE, THERE'S NOT A PLAY OF EMOTION.
THAT'S ALL I CAN, I GOT TO FIGHT WITH Y'ALL HAVE THE POWER.
WHETHER YOU, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO VOTE WITHIN YOUR CONSCIENCE BECAUSE I HAVE TO APPEAL TO MY
I HAVE TO APPEAL TO WHAT I KNOW IS RIGHT.
JUST LIKE YOU, Y'ALL ON THIS DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL, THERE'S PLENTY.
I I HEARD THE GENTLEMAN SPEAK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES.
I DON'T KNOW HIM, BUT I'VE BEEN IN THEM.
OH, YOU HAVEN'T HAD INCIDENCE, INCIDENCE OF THIS UNTIL YOU GET SOAP SOPPED.
I GUESS THAT WON'T GO INTO ANYBODY'S REPORT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO MAKE, I'M SAYING THAT TO MAKE A POINT IS LIKE NOT EVERYTHING ON THE PAPER GETS REPORT, UH, GETS REPORTED.
THESE FACILITIES CHANGE HANDS.
THIS IS WHAT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO.
NOW, CHRIS, CHRIS, THAT I GAVE YOU A FEW MINUTES OVER YOUR TIME, BUT THAT'S YOUR TIME.
UH, COUNSEL, NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER MOK.
UM, I WOULD DIRECT THIS AT, UH, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AS FAR AS SPEAKING TO Y'ALL.
AND I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC'S COMMENT AND ALL.
UH, LOOK, I I DON'T AGREE AT THE MOMENT AS FAR AS THAT FACILITY GOING RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.
AND I, AND I GET WHERE THE CONCERN'S COMING FROM FOR THE PUBLIC AND EVERYTHING.
BUT THIS RIGHT HERE, AND, AND JUST TO ANSWER THE GENTLEMAN'S QUESTION, THIS IS NOT AN ORDINANCE.
THIS IS NOT CHANGING ANY RULES OR WHATEVER ELSE.
KIND OF LIKE, IT DOESN'T SAY RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S MORE OF AN OPINION OF THE COUNCIL ABOUT THIS WHAT'S WORDED IN HERE AND EXPRESSING THE OPPOSITION OF THE METRO COUNCIL.
I, I'M WORRIED WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AND, UM, PLANNING CAN COME UP.
THIS IS A BROAD NET I THINK THAT WE'RE THROWING OUT THERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TWO MILES IN ONE MILE.
I, I THINK IS THIS, I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU DROVE UP RIVER ROAD TOWARD LE BURGE AND FOUND A SPOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN HERE AND LE BURGE IN ALL THAT LAND THAT'S OUT THERE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE WITHIN ONE MILE OR TWO MILES OF A SCHOOL.
AND, AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS ISN'T DRIVING A MILE DOWN THE ROAD TURNING LEFT, AND THIS IS AIR MILES FROM WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.
YOU'RE GOING ONE MILE IN A PARTICULAR AIR MILES.
ANYTHING IN THAT CIRCLE IS GOING TO CAUSE THIS TO BE.
AND I THINK IS, IS THIS EVEN DOABLE? AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST AN EXPRESSION, BUT IS THIS EVEN DOABLE OR ARE YOU BASICALLY SAYING THIS, NONE OF THIS CAN EVER BE BUILT IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH BY ACCEPTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
SPEAKING TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT, THE GREATEST DISTANCE REQUIREMENT IN THE UDC REGARDING USES IS A THOUSAND FEET THAT'S
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CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE UDC.AND, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT MILES.
MAYBE WE, WE DON'T, I I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT IS, UH, LOOK, COUNCILMAN HURST AGAIN, I GO BACK TO THE THING.
I DO THINK WE NEED FACILITIES, I THINK, BUT THIS RIGHT HERE IS, I THINK IS A BLANKET TO WHERE I FELT LIKE MAYBE WE CAN BRING IT BACK BEING MORE NARROWED DOWN.
MAYBE IT COULD BE A SPECIFIC RESOLUTION TO, TO THIS PARTICULAR THING.
I, I THINK THIS OPENS UP A LOT AS FAR AS THE CITY AND IT SETS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE TO STATE OVER AND OVER, YOU KNOW, WE PASSED THIS EXPRESSION AND THIS RESOLUTION ABOUT, WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING WITHIN TWO MILES AND SO ON.
SO, I, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AS FAR AS WHAT TO RAISE THE RESOLUTION IS RESOLUTION IS STATED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
BEFORE WE DO A KNEE JAR, WE JUST ASKED FOR A STUDY TO BE DONE.
WHY CAN'T WE WAIT TILL THE STUDY'S DONE AND GET SOME INFORMATION BACK ON THAT AND LET THE EXPERTS COME TELL US, JUST LIKE WE DO AT MASTER PLANNING AND STUFF.
UM, THEY TELL US THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT THIS WOULD WORK IN.
THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE COULD PUT THIS AND WE KINDA REARRANGE AND, AND CHANGE THE UDC TO MATCH THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, BEFORE I GO TO YOU ALL, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER HIRST WANTS TO MAKE A RE A MOTION TO DEFER THE ITEM.
UH, THAT MAY CHANGE SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS.
AND SO, UH, I, I, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER, BUT I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHY.
WELL, I'M GONNA COME BACK TO YOU CUZ THEY WANT TO GO FIRST.
SINCE THEY LEFT THERE FIRST THEY REQUESTED TO GO FIRST.
COUNCIL MEMBER NOEL, I, I'LL, I'LL HOLD MY COMMENTS TO BE BROUGHT BACK UP AFTER DEFERRAL.
COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN, I GUESS ALL OF THIS IS IN LINE WITH COURTNEY.
AND WHAT I AM LOOKING AT HERE IS 73 IS A STUDY.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE 97.
YEAH, WE, WE HAVEN'T STUDIED, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT DOING.
SO COURTNEY, TALK TO ME ABOUT ANY LEGAL CONCERNS OF THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT A COUNCIL RESOLUTION OR JUST, JUST COMING AS THEY SAY IN, IN THE CHURCH.
WELL, I DID A FEW WEEKS BY EMAIL.
SO YOU DID, UM, JUST, UH, PUTTING COUNCIL MEMBERS ON NOTICE, UH, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND WHAT IT COULD MEAN.
UM, SO YEAH, SO YOU'VE STATED IT CORRECTLY.
SO YOU'VE GOT ONE ITEM THAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO DO THE WORK AND DO THE RESEARCH.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ONE ITEM THAT THE RESEARCH DOESN'T EXIST YET, BUT THERE'S A REQUEST BEING MADE THAT YOU ALL EXPRESS, UH, STANCE ON IT.
SO AT THIS TIME, IT'S ALWAYS BEST, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I'M GONNA ADVISE THE COUNCIL TO MOVE WHAT CAUTION AND TO GET THE STUDY DONE SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW THE LEGAL BASIS ON WHICH YOU ALL CAN STAND ON BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION, RIGHT? YES.
OKAY, SO WE, WE HAVE HAD SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS ON THIS.
I WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THE STEPS.
LET ME PUT THIS ON SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DELETE THIS RESOLUTION UNTIL WE GET OUR STUDY BACK.
SECOND, THERE IS A MOTION TO DELETE BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN SECONDARY BY COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS.
WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER PER WHO IS UP NEXT
SO, UM, MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION, UH, WILL BE TO DEFER IT, BUT IT WILL BE BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT IF FOUND LEGAL, AND I'M GONNA FIND THE RIGHT TERM.
CAUSE WHAT I DO, WHAT WHAT WE DO WITH THESE RESOLUTIONS IS INSTEAD OF HAVING 12 PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE PLANT IN THE ZON MEETING, WHICH NONE OF Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE THERE, I'LL NEVER SEE Y'ALL THERE UNLESS WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THERE.
I'M NOT SAYING NONE CHINA BANKS IS GONNA BE THERE CAUSE SHE SITS ON THE BOARD.
BUT, UM, UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING MAJOR GOING ON IN OUR DISTRICT, MOST OF US DO NOT SHOW UP TO THOSE MEETINGS, RIGHT? NO, BUT SO WE WON'T, WE WELL, I MEAN EVERY NOW AND THEN WE DO.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE, WE, MOST OF US DON'T, RIGHT? WE COME TO THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
SO WHAT THIS RESOLUTION WAS INTENDED FOR WAS TO SHOW SUPPORT THAT IF THIS WAS FOUND LEGAL, THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T WANT IT IN OUR DISTRICTS.
AND SO I BELIEVE THAT OPINION BASED ON THE WORDS, WE PUT THE RIGHT WORDS IN THERE, WHICH IS WHY I'M GOING TO ADD REQUEST TO DEFER, TO ALLOW TIME.
I JUST ENTERED, REINTRODUCE IT, EITHER ONE.
BUT, UM, BUT I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO DID SHOW UP TODAY.
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I BELIEVE YOUR VOICES WERE HEARD.I BELIEVE THE, THE, THE COUNCIL, THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY ONLINE, EVERYBODY OUT IN TV, LAND.
UH, THE MEDIA HEARD THAT YOU ALL WERE EXTREME OPPOSITION OF THIS.
I WANT TO THANK THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT SHOWED UP.
CAUSE I KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS WE HAVE ON A WEEKLY BASIS OUTSIDE OF YOUR NORMAL JOBS, RIGHT? SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.
I AM NOT DEFERRING THIS CAUSE, UM, I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF IT.
I'M DEFERRING IT BECAUSE I WANT TO BE LEGAL, MORAL, AND ETHICAL WITH ANYTHING THAT WE DO.
AND THE CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE THAT STATES THAT IF APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING, THEN WE SHOW THAT WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF PLANNING AND ZONING'S DECISION.
IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, WHICH IS WHAT THIS WAS INITIALLY INTENDED FOR, TO SHOW SUPPORT SO THAT WHEN WE ARE NOT AT THAT MEETING, I WILL BE THERE.
BUT I CAN SHOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES STOOD BESIDE ME BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T WANT THIS IN THEIR DISTRICT EITHER IF IT WAS LEGAL, MORAL, AND ETHICAL.
SO I WILL REQUEST THAT THE DEFERRAL GOAL, AND IF IT'S DELETED, I WILL JUST REINTRODUCE IT TO BE CLEAR.
BUT, UM, I AM REQUESTING AS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT IT'LL BE DEFERRED SO THAT WE CAN PUT THE SUBSTANTIVE LANGUAGE IN THERE SO THAT IT DOES NOT, UM, NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES OR THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE.
FOR HOW LONG? I'LL, I'LL SECOND THE DEFER IF IT'S 120 DAYS TO GIVE US TIME TO GET THE STUDY BACK JUST DELETED.
YEAH, I WAS THINKING LIKE TWO WEEKS, UH, FOUR WEEKS.
BECAUSE I WANTED TO SHOW AT THE, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I, I'LL I'LL DEFER FOR, FOR, FOR 60 DAYS.
I THINK THAT SHOULD GIVE 'EM ENOUGH TIME TO COME BACK.
SINCE WE, SINCE WE CHANGE THE DEFINITION DOWN TO STRICTLY HOSPITAL, IT SHOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME IN 60 DAYS TO DETERMINE.
UH, I JUST DON'T WANNA MISS THE OPPORTUNITY ON THE, ON THE, ON THE ZONING.
IF WE DO IT TOO LONG, THEN THE RESOLUTION COMES OUT AFTER THE ZONING STUDY IS DONE AND GOES BEFORE THE BOARD.
SO, UH, CAN WE GO WITH 60 TODAY? DEFERRAL? IS THAT MOTION SHOWING TWICE THAT, IS THAT YOUR MOTION? THAT IS MY MOTION.
MY COUNSEL NUMBER HEARD SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUN JR.
WILL NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON.
UH, COURTNEY, IF YOU WOULD COME BACK UP, COURTNEY.
UH, I WANT SOME CLARITY ON IF THIS ITEM WERE TO BE PASSED TONIGHT, WHAT IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OR THE, THE, THE FACILITY THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE UP IN ARMS ABOUT.
SO IF WE PASS THIS ITEM TONIGHT, DOES IT STOP THE FACILITY? DOES IT SHUT 'EM DOWN, OR ARE THEY STILL GONNA BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE SO LONG AS THEY OPERATE WITHIN THE, THE SPUD THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE? THE RESOLUTION ITSELF WON'T SHUT IT DOWN OR, OR STOP THE OPERATIONAL DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, BUT THE, BASICALLY THE METRO COUNCIL IS JUST TAKING A POSITION THAT Y'ALL ARE GIVING THEM A PREVIEW IN ADVANCE THAT Y'ALL ARE, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO OPPOSE IT.
UM, IF, IF Y'ALL HAVE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH OPERATION OR DEVELOPMENT OF, OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
SO FROM A LIABILITY STANDPOINT, WE ARE TAKING A POSITION ON THE OPERATION OF A BUSINESS WITHOUT A SET OF STANDARDS TO, TO SORT OF MAKE THAT VOTE.
DOES THAT GIVE THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ANY PAUSE? A AS TO OUR LIABILITY, A BUSINESS'S CHANCE TO COME AND SUE US FOR, UM, MAKING THAT OPINION? THAT'S GONNA GIVE US SOME WORK TO DO.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE LOYALLY ANSWER MAYBE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET UNTIL SOMEBODY MAKES AN ISSUE OUT OF IT.
AND BECAUSE THIS RESOLUTION IS BASICALLY STATING FOR THE METRO COUNCIL THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO SAY NO TO ANYTHING, UM, INVOLVING THE OPERATIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF A, OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
UM, THE PERSON THAT'S SEEKING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, THE DEVELOPER COULD SAY, OH, IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS RESOLUTION THAT THAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM.
AND SO THEN THE, THE BALL STARTS ROLLING, UM, IN THAT DIRECTION.
I, I'LL JUST TELL YOU MY OPINION IS THAT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THIS ISSUE IS IF AND WHEN THE SPUD IS, UH, AN APPLICATION IS PUT IN FOR THE SPUD TO BE UPDATED.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO JUST BE MAKING OPINIONS WITHOUT HAVING THE DATA PRESENTED TO US, WITHOUT HAVING A SET OF STANDARDS THAT WE CAN, UH, JUDGE IT LIKE WE WOULD ANYTHING ELSE IN OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I, I THINK IS A, A REALLY DANGEROUS STEP LONG TERM FOR US TO BE MAKING AS A COUNCIL.
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JUST AS A MATTER OF, UH, FUNCTION OF THE WAY THAT THE OR, OR THE, UM, RESOLUTION IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND REVISITING IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK IN HERE ABOUT A HIGH DENSITY SUBDIVISION.
UH, GLEN OAKS IS NOT A HIGH DENSITY SUBDIVISION.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR UDC, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UH, WE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT, UH, SCHOOLS IN THIS.
WE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT, UM, CERTAIN TYPES OF FACILITIES.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT DAYCARES, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO, TO LOOK THROUGH.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY CUMBERSOME FLOOR AMENDMENT, UH, IF WE WERE TO TRY AND JUST DEFER IT.
SO, UM, AS COUNCILMAN HURST ITEM, IF HE WANTS TO DEFER IT, THAT'S FINE.
I, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
I JUST THINK A DELETION AND THEN A RESUBMITTAL MIGHT MAKE IT A CLEANER ITEM FOR US TO DISCUSS WHEN IT COMES BACK IN THE FUTURE.
UM, I, UM, FOR, FOR ME, I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT HASTE MAKES WASTE AND FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT CLEAR, I WOULD NOT WANT, UM, A FORENSIC FACILITY IN MY, UM, ENTIRE DISTRICT UNLESS IT'S THE, UH, AN AREA WHERE IT'S NOT AROUND SCHOOLS AND RESIDENTS.
SO, BUT I THINK THAT WE MAY BE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE ALL THE, UM, THINGS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN TALKING ABOUT NOT ONLY A FUTURE PLANS FOR A FORENSIC FACILITY, BUT ALSO THE EXISTING FACILITY AS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.
NOW THIS ONLY TALKS ABOUT WITHIN TWO MILES OF A SCHOOL OR ONE MILE OF A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
BUT THAT IS ONLY, THAT IS NOT NEARLY, UM, EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WITH THIS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED COULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, WE DEAL WITH OVERCROWDING, UM, SAFETY AND SECURITY, UM, CONCERNS, INABILITY TO MEET CODE, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE, UM, COUNCILMAN HUDSON SAID THIS IS GONNA, WOULD COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
UM, WE ALSO NEED TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT ARE THE CRIME TRENDS THAT EXIST IN THAT COMMUNITY? WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE RESOLUTIONS OR ORDINANCE THAT IF THERE'S A, A SPECIFIC, A POTENTIAL AMOUNT OF CRIME OR, UH, THE DATA, THEN WE SHOULD NOT ADD THIS TO IT.
UM, WHAT ARE THE LIABILITIES OF FOR RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN? UH, WHAT ARE THE ACCREDITATION ISSUES? SO FOR ME, THIS IS VERY LIMITED IN SCOPE AS IT RELATES TO THE MILES.
UM, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THAT CAN COME OUT OF THIS STUDY.
I HATE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO EVEN PUT A 60, UM, DAY MANDATE ON IT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE NEED TO