Feb 20, 2023 Fire Police Municipal Board Meeting

THANK YOU.

UH, NOW I'D LIKE TO, UH, TO GIVE A TIME FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

NUMBER TWO IS CONSIDERED A MOTION TO APPROVE OR MAKE CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.

HEARING, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO ITEM

[2. Consider Motion to Approve Agenda]

MR. SMITH? YES.

I NEED TO, WE NEED TO LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR CHIEF BY OUR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, THE ASSISTANT CHIEF THAT WE HAVE IN THERE RIGHT NOW.

SHE HASN'T COMPLETED HER, UH, WORKING TEST PERIOD, AND SHE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S QUALIFIED TO TAKE THE TEST.

SO THERE IS A VACANCY IN THE CHIEF SPOT.

SO WE NEED TO LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS SO THAT SHE CAN TAKE IT.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE LOWER CHIEF FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST PUTTING ON THE AGENDA, CORRECT? OKAY.

SO, UH, AND WE ALSO NEED TO STRIKE CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES.

WE DON'T NEED TO CALL FOR NOW.

SO THE OTHER ITEM WOULD, UH, POSSIBLY COME AS ITEM NUMBER 14, AND THAT WOULD BE TO RESTATE YOUR, YOUR MOTION TO LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR CHIEF FIRE COMMUNICATIONS.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

UH, UM, WE HAVE A SECOND BY MISTREAT.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

WHAT SHOULD MOTION IS TO LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR WELL, WE'LL DO THAT ON NUMBER 14.

I'M SORRY TO ADD THAT.

I'M SORRY.

TO ADD NUMBER, UH, 14 TO THE AGENDA, UM, WHICH IS TO LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, WHICH WOULD MEAN, UM, ITEM NUMBER 15, UH, WOULD BECOME REVIEW MEETING SCHEDULE.

BUT IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION.

UH, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.

WE DON'T NEED TO REMOVE IT.

WE CAN REMOVE IT.

AND TO REMOVE, UH, WHAT IS NOW BEFORE THE CHANGE, ITEM ONE 14 TO JUST OMIT IT.

REVIEW MEETING SCHEDULE.

GOOD.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADD ITEM NUMBER 14 TO THE AGENDA.

ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? UH, YES.

FOR REQUEST OF CHIEF ALL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE, UH, SECOND EXAMINATION TO THE CALL FOR, UH, A SECOND EXAMINATION.

UH, THAT BEING THE POLICE LATENT PRINT EXAMINER EXAM.

I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA.

SO WOULD THAT BE A ADD TO NUMBER SEVEN? YES, SIR.

YES.

MM-HMM.

AND I DO HAVE A, UM, LETTER FROM THE CHIEF THAT ASKS THE SAME THING.

CORRECT.

UM, JUST CALL FOR VOTE.

UM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADD.

UH, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. SMITH.

SO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WILL, UH, ALSO REFLECT THAT THE POLICE LADEN EXAMINER BE ADDED TO THE CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS.

THEN I THANK MR. SMITH WAS REMOVING CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES FROM NUMBER NINE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.

ARE YOU MAKING THAT MOTION? I'LL MOVE.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES FROM ITEM NUMBER NINE.

SEE? OH, ALRIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ALL.

SO, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY MS. DORSEY.

CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES FOR THE CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE HAVE STRICKEN THE

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I MOVE, BE APPROVE.

YES, WE ADVISED AGENDA.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? AYE.

IS A CONSIDERATION FOR, UM, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS. , THERE? YEAH, I'VE MOVED THAT.

BUT MR. SMITH, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[3. Consider Motion to Approve Minutes from January 2023, regular meeting]

NUMBER THREE.

CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE MEETINGS OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY MEETING.

UH, DO YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKET? IF YOU WOULD LOOK OVER IT.

AND I ENTERTAIN A MOTIONS THIS TIME.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

UH, DUAL SECOND OR MR. SMITH? MS. DORSEY.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[4. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Personnel Action Forms]

WE APPROVE P A F FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE THERE.

DO A SECOND AGAIN.

UM, LET'S SEE.

UH, BY PRESSING MS. DORSEY, UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

FIVE, A CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE OR REJECT APPLICATIONS.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER

[5. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Applications]

DO WE HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS AT THIS TIME? YES, SIR.

YES.

SO CAN WE PASS THOSE AROUND PEOPLE? LOOK AT 'EM.

NO.

APPLICATIONS FOR THESE ARE POLICE, ARE POLICE APPLICATIONS.

SO I'M GONNA PASS THESE DOWN.

THIS IS A FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN, ONE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, ONE, CRIMINAL INTELLIGENCE ANALYST, CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST FOR FORENSIC SCIENTISTS AND POLICE CADET.

I'M GONNA GIVE, YEAH, I HEARD YOU LATER.

I THOUGHT YOU GAVE HIM.

TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT EXAMINATION RESULTS.

THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'LL CHANGE, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT APPLICATIONS.

YOU STILL GOING , MR. YOU NEED SOME TIME? NO.

UH, I BELIEVE WE APPROVED APPLICATIONS.

YEAH, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

OKAY, SO, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION.

MANY DO HAVE, HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? OH, 13.

JUST, ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[6. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Examination Results]

WE DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT OBJECTIONS.

OKAY? NONE TERMS. SO THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN.

UH, CONSIDER A MOTION

[7. Consider Motion to Call for Examinations in Police Department - Police Sergeant]

TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS IN POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A POLICE SERGEANT AND POLICE LAYTON.

PRINT EXAMINER.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR. DORSEY.

SECOND BY PRESS.

TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO REVIEW AND APPROVE UPDATED CLASS SPECIFICATIONS AND PRIOR DEPARTMENT.

[8. Review and Approve Updated Class Specifications in Fire Department]

THAT'S JUST THE ONES WE, WE DID.

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I'D HAND THEM TO JOHN, WHAT YOU THINK THAT THE ONES THAT WE POSTED FOR? YEAH, I MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THE, THE, UH, UPDATED CLASS CATION, UPDATED CLASSIFICATION PLANS.

THESE ARE FOR ALL THE PROMOTIONAL CLASSES.

NINE IS TO CONSIDER A MOTION TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH ARE DEPUTY FIRE, CHIEF ASSISTANT, FIRE CHIEF ASSISTANT CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR, CHIEF FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, ASSISTANT CHIEF FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, AND CHIEF FIRE APPARATUS TECHNICIAN.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU, MRS. DORSEY.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[9. Consider Motion to Call for Examinations in Fire Department - Deputy Fire Chief, Assistant Fire Chief, Assistant Chief Fire Investigator, Chief of Special Services, Chief Fire Communications Officer, Assistant Chief Fire Communications Officer, Chief Fire Apparatus Technician.]

SO ON THE CHIEF FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, THAT'S THE ONE WE MOVED TO NUMBER 14.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I MOVE, WE CALL FOR THESE EXAMINATIONS OTHER THAN THAT ONE.

WE COULD CALL FOR IT NOW.

SO WE GOT A VOTE TO, THIS IS JUST CALL FOR THEM.

WE'LL HANDLE THAT AT 14.

I MOVE.

SO, UM, MINUS THE CHIEF FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, UH, WE ARE CONSIDERING A MOTION TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS.

I MOVE.

ALL BEEN MOVED BY JOHN.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY PRESS.

A CALL FOR A PUBLIC MEETING REGARDING THE CLASS SPECIFICATIONS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRE INSPECTOR ONE, FIRE INVESTIGATOR, FIRE SAFETY OFFICER, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL OFFICER AND TRAINING OFFICER.

[10. Call for Public Meeting Regarding Class Specifications in Fire Department - Fire Inspector 1, Fire Investigator, Fire Safety Officer, Hazardous Materials Officer, Training Officer]

I MOVE THAT WE, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 27TH TO DISCUSS THE CHANGES IN THESE JOB QUALIFICATIONS.

UH, ALL THIS IS, IS GOING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, PRIOR TO APRIL 26TH, 21.

THESE ARE ALL THE COMPETITIVE STUFF.

OKAY? SO YOU'RE CALLING FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING? PUBLIC HEARING.

PUBLIC HEARING, YEAH.

WE WILL POST THESE FOR 30 DAYS, STARTING FEBRUARY 22ND THROUGH MARCH 23RD.

YOU NEED A SECOND, SECOND, AND A SECOND.

SECOND BY PRESS.

[11. Consider Request from BRFD for Board to work with OSE to create Medical Training Officer class]

ON.

TITLE NUMBER 11.

WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM BR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE BOARD TO WORK WITH OE TO CREATE A MEDICAL TRAINING OFFICER'S CLASS.

I MOVE.

WE ACCEPT THAT.

UH, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS CREATING A NEW, WE'RE CREATING A NEW POSITION AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, MEDICAL TRAINING OFFICER MM-HMM.

AND, UH, WE'RE ASKING THE OFFICER, STATE EXAMINER'S OFFICE TO CREATE THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

FAIR ENOUGH.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THERE.

MR. DORSEY, MR. UH, ENTERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENT? SORRY.

NAME, NAME AND ADDRESS.

YEP.

CORY ARTA.

80 11 MER.

JUSTICE AND BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

JUST CLARIFICATION PURPOSES FOR PROCEDURAL WISE.

SO MAKING THIS MOTION TODAY TO, UH, HAVE THE OSC CREATE THE JOB CATIONS RIGHT.

OR THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

UM, ONCE THAT'S DONE, DOES ADMIT COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND THEN IT WILL BE POSTED FOR 30 DAYS FOR TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT.

MM-HMM.

? YES.

SO IT'LL BE PUBLIC HEARING, KIND OF SAME PROCEDURE AS IT WAS WITH THE, UM, CHIEF WITH THE INFORMATION WITH THE CLASS SPECIFICATIONS.

SO ONCE YOU GET THE JOB DESCRIPTION BACK, YOU'LL POST FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CREATION OF THE POSITION, SAME WAY WE DID WITH CHIEF INFORMATION, RIGHT.

KNOWLEDGE.

HAVE AN OPENING, I'M GONNA RECLASSIFY THAT POSITION OF A FIRE TRAINING OFFICER TO STRICTLY DOING MEDICAL TRAINING.

SO JUST PROCEDURALIZING AND THAT IT'LL MOVE FORWARD OR NOT MOVE FORWARD.

UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

SINCE, SINCE THIS IS A NEW POSITION, I'M ASSUMING THAT NO BUDGET IMPLICATION THAT WE NO, NO, SIR.

IT IS.

THEY TAKEN A TRAINING OFFICER POSITION AND RENAME IT TO A MEDICAL TRAINING OFFICER.

THE CHIEF RIGHT THERE, THE CHIEF CAN SPEAK ON.

SO WE ARE ADDING A NEW POSITION OF MEDICAL TRAIN OFFICER TO DO A BETTER JOB TO PROVIDE BETTER TRAINING TO OUR PERSONNEL IN THE MEDICAL FIELD AS THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE CITIZENS.

SO WE CURRENTLY

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JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T CREATING A BUDGET PROBLEM.

THAT'S NO, NO, NO.

NO, SIR.

SIR, WE, UH, JUST RECLASSIFYING THAT COME Y'ALL ASKING FOR THE REQUEST TO ADOPT A POSITION.

AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND, UM, OR DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

SECOND BY MS. DORSEY.

[12. Consider Motion to Continue Officer Billy Mattingly's Appeal, filed by Appellant.]

ITEM NUMBER 12.

CONSIDER A MOTION TO CONTINUE BILLY MANNING LEE'S APPEAL FILED BY THE APPELLANT.

UM, YES.

OFFICER MATTINGLY'S, UM, ENDED UP HAVING TO SWITCH ATTORNEYS.

SO, UH, IN LIGHT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AND GIVE THEM TIME TO, TO PREPARE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHEN OUR NEXT OPENING IS FOR, UH, APPEALS THOUGH.

WOULD IT BE MAY? UM, WE HAVE A, A SCHEDULE ACCOUNTED EVERY WE DO.

I THINK I, BUT I THINK MAY IS OUR FIRST OPENING.

WELL, IN, IN THAT CASE, I MEAN, HAVE WE GIVEN HIM A, UH, CONTINUANCE BEFORE? NO, THIS WOULD BE HIS FIRST.

HIS FIRST ONE? YEAH.

I JUST NOTICED THE WORD CONTINUE, BUT, UM, I WILL REMOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THIS AND ASSIGNED IT TO NEXT AVAILABLE TIMEFRAME.

NOW WE, ARE WE OPEN TO MOVING ANYTHING AROUND? I HADN'T GOTTEN ANY CONFIRMATIONS TO, TO SAY DEFINITIVELY.

UH, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THE OPTION OF POSSIBLY JUGGLING SOME STUFF.

ONE THING THE BOARD CAN DO IS, UM, I GUESS DELEGATE TO YOU THE ABILITY TO SCHEDULE THESE HEARINGS IF THAT'LL MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR US.

UH, THE ONLY PROBLEM ABOUT JUGGING 'EM AROUND IS THAT WE SET THESE HEARINGS IN THE PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS WHEN THEY'RE SET, WE CHANGE THE DATES AND THEN THEY DON'T, THEN WE'LL GET CONFUSED OF HAVING TO, HEARING THE PEOPLE NOT KNOWING ABOUT HIM.

MM-HMM.

GOOD POINT.

WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP IT IN THE, UH, OPEN SETTING.

SO IT'S MAY OUR FIRST AVAILABLE? YES.

YES.

ALRIGHT, LET'S, I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE CONTINUE IT.

BILLY MARILYN'S APPEAL TILL MAY.

I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND BY PRESS.

13, CONSIDER A MOTION TO EX ACCEPT AND SCHEDULE APPEAL FOR ORLANDO WALLACE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

[13. Consider Motion to Accept and Schedule Appeal of Orlando Wallace - Fire Department]

UM, MR. WALLACE WAS TERMINATED FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HE FILED HIS APPEAL.

IT APPEARS THAT IT IS TIMELY, SO MR. MATTER FINDING AN AVAILABLE DATE FOR HIM AS WELL.

SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE JUNE, CORRECT? THE, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE OR, OR STATEMENT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T DETERMINATIONS TAKE PRECEDENT OVER THE OTHER STUFF? HMM.

SO SHOULD WE REARRANGE SOME OF THE STUFF TO WHERE WE HAVE TERMINATIONS, UM, THAT TAKE PRIORITY AND THEN SCHEDULE THE OTHER ITEMS BEHIND THEM, WHICH BASED UPON OUR EXISTING SCHEDULE, THIS IS A TERMINATION.

SO, UH, IT'S JUST A QUESTION, BUT WE SCHEDULED THE OTHER STUFF ALREADY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT THIS UP.

WELL, ANYTHING THAT'S A TERMINATION TAKE PRIORITY OVER, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SCHEDULED.

IT'S UP FOR THE BOARD.

IT'S A DISCUSSION.

I THINK PEOPLE PREPARE FOR THE DATE THAT WE SET FOR 'EM.

SO IF YOU MOVE 'EM AROUND AND MOVING 'EM BACK AND DOING ALL THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FRUSTRATING TO ME.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING WHENEVER WE SETTLE EM, WHEN WE SET ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.

CORRECT.

JUST AS SOON AS IT COULD BE.

I MEAN, AND THAT WAS MY POINT TOO, JOHN.

UH, OKAY.

THANK PEOPLE PREPARED HAVE TO DO MANY AUDIT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY COULD, THIS ORDER OF HOW THEY COME.

SO OUR NEXT AVAILABLE IS JUNE.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.

AND WILL, WILL THAT BE THE SAME WITH PEOPLE WHO KIND OF REQUEST CONTINUANCE? IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE, THE BACK OF THE LINE.

I MEAN, USUALLY THEY, OKAY.

WHEN THEY WERE ALREADY IN QUEUE? YEAH.

I MEAN THEY,

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ALRIGHT.

I MEAN, THE BOARD CAN ALWAYS SET A SPECIAL, A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT I THINK PEOPLE JUST BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, SO, YEAH.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE CONSIDERING A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, OR TO SCHEDULE THE APPEAL FOR ORLANDO WALLACE FOR THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE, WHICH IS IN JUNE MOVE.

AYE, RIGHT.

SECOND BY PRESS.

NUMBER 14 IS THE LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS OF CHIEF COMMUNICATION OFFICER.

[Addtional Item]

I SPOKE LITTLE BIT ON THIS EARLIER.

SO THE, THE ONLY PERSON QUALIFIED TO TAKE THE CHIEF PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER EXAM WOULD BE THE ASSISTANT CHIEF PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

AND THE GIRL THAT IS IN THAT JOB RIGHT NOW HASN'T COMPLETED HER WORKING TEST PERIOD, BUT THERE'S A VACANCY COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WHERE SHE WILL MOVE UP TO CHIEF BY OUR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

BUT SHE HADN'T TAKEN THE TEST YET.

SO SHE NEEDS TO, WE NEED TO LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS TO SAY ASSISTANT BY OUR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER WITH, WITH, WITHOUT BEING CERTIFIED, THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON THAT CAN TAKE IT.

SO I MOVE, WE LOWER THE QUALIFICATION SO THAT SHE CAN TAKE THE TEST AND THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE LOWERING IS THE CERTIFICATION.

YES, SIR.

I'D SECOND THAT.

ALRIGHT.

BEEN SECONDED BY PRESS.