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GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PRESENTATION PORTION OF OUR METROPOLITAN COUNCIL MEETING ON THIS MARCH 22ND, 2023 AT 3:30 PM.FIRST UP, WE'LL HAVE OUR MAYOR, PRESIDENT SHARON WESTERN BROOM TO RECOGNIZE LINDSEY DUGA BATTER ROUGE AUTHOR AND THREE TIME FEATURED AUTHOR AT LOUISIANA BOOK FESTIVAL IN LIVINGTON PARISH BOOK FESTIVAL IN RONNIE ANDERSON, JR.
ITS COLUMBIA NATO AUTHOR, BEING HONORED FOR HIS LITERARY WORKS IN PUBLISHING COMPANY RU STAR PUBLISHING, L L C, MAYOR BROOM.
UH, IF I COULD HAVE BOTH OF THE AUTHORS COME UP WHILE I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR SUCCESSES.
AS YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING VERY DEAR TO YOUR HEART, UM, MAYOR PRO TIM, CUZ YOU'RE ALWAYS TELLING PEOPLE TO READ TO THEIR CHILDREN THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT MARGE IS NATIONAL READING MONTH.
AND SO TO CELEBRATE, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE TWO DYNAMIC LOCAL AUTHORS, LINDSAY DUGAS AND RONNIE ANDERSON.
LET ME START FIRST WITH LINDSAY.
UH, LINDSAY DUGAS WRITES FANTASY STORIES FOR TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS.
THESE ARE SOME OF HER BOOKS RIGHT HERE.
SHE WROTE, WROTE HER FIRST NOVEL WHILE EARNING HER DEGREE AT LSU MANSHIP SCHOOL OF COM, MASS COMMUNICATION.
HER DEBUT NOVEL KISS OF THE ROYAL CAME OUT IN THE SUMMER OF 2018.
AND HER OTHER YOUNG ADULT FANTASY NOVELS INCLUDE GLOW OF THE FIREFLIES ROARING AND MOST RECENTLY STORM CHASER, WHICH WAS RELEASED IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.
SHE ALSO WRITES GHOST STORIES FOR YOUNG READERS.
LINDSAY IS A THREE TIME FEATURED AUTHOR AT THE LOUISIANA BOOK FESTIVAL.
SHE ENJOYS TRAVELING TO VARIOUS BOOK FESTIVALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND SPEAKING AT LOCAL SCHOOLS AND WRITERS GROUPS SUCH AS THE WRITER'S GUILD OF ACAA.
SO I WANT TO FIRST RECOGNIZE LINDSAY CELEBRATING, UH, YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS A BATON ROUGE AUTHOR.
AND ALSO HERE TODAY IS A SCOTLANDVILLE AREA NATIVE RONNIE ANDERSON, JR.
NOW, DURING THE DAY, RONNIE WORKS TO SAVE LIVES AS A TECHNICAL SUPERVISOR AT BATON ROUGE GENERAL MEDICAL CENTER.
AND IN HIS FREE TIME HE WRITES FAIRY TALES FOR CHILDREN.
UH, RONNIE BEGAN HIS JOURNEY IN 2017 WHEN HIS DAUGHTER ASKED HIM WHY THERE, THERE WEREN'T MANY BLACK PRINCESSES.
THAT DAY HE DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO CHANGE, THAT THE KINGDOM OF ANNE BARON WAS BORN, WAS BORN.
ANDERSON SAYS HE CREATED THIS FICTIONAL WORLD FOR TWO REASONS.
IT'S A HEALING PROJECT DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN OF COLOR AND ALLOWS THOSE OUTSIDE THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO FALL IN LOVE WITH THE CHARACTERS LIKE BLACK CHILDREN HAVE DONE WITH OTHER FAIRYTALE CHARACTERS.
THIS IS A COVER WHAT THE BOOK LOOKS LIKE, CENTERS AROUND A PRINCESS NAMED BEAUTIFUL WHO MISUSES A GIFT.
READERS FOLLOW HER JOURNEY OF LEARNING WHAT MAKES LIFE WORTH LIVING.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER COVER OF, UH, ONE OF RONNIE'S BOOKS, FIVE AMAZING FAIRY TALES, THE ANTHOLOGY.
SO RONNIE, I WANT TO CELEBRATE YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS ALSO AS AN AUTHOR AND AS A BATON ROUGE NATIVE AND HERE GIRLS.
AND SO WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS OR YOU JUST WRITE A FEW WORDS?
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THIS IS SUCH AN HONOR TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR AND THE METRO COUNCIL.
UM, I AM A BATON ROUGE NATIVE.
AND, UH, LITERACY AND WRITING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME.
I DO LOVE VISITING LOCAL SCHOOLS.
I DO IT FOR FREE BECAUSE I LOVE BATON ROUGE SO MUCH.
UH, SO THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH.
I WANT TO, UH, FIRST SAY THANK YOU TO THE LADY JAGS AND WHATNOT.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU GUYS ON YOUR GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.
YO WANNA SHARE THIS MOMENT WITH YOU
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ALL AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE BANON ROUGE COUNCIL, UM, AND THE MAYOR CHERYL, FOR HAVING ME HERE.I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I DO WORK SA AT BANON ROUGE GENERAL SAVING LIVES, ALONG WITH, UH, MY SUPERVISOR SHERRY DOK HERE.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY I BRING IN SOMETHING NEW TO BATON ROUGE.
UH, WANT TO PUT US ON THE MAP.
WE HAVE CREATED THE FIRST COLLECTION OF FAIRY TALES THAT FEATURE PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY BEING TURNED INTO A GLOBAL BRAND.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU GUYS SUPPORT AND THANK YOU.
WE GOTTA TAKE, COME OUT HERE AND TAKE SOME PICTURES.
NEXT WE'LL HAVE MAYOR SHARON WESTERN BROOM TO RECOGNIZE ED BUSH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF RED CROSS PLAQUE FORMATION RED CROSS MONTH.
I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, UM, THE BOARD MEMBERS, JONATHAN BLAKE, CONNIE BOLEN, PASTOR ERIC WILLIAMS TO ALSO, UH, JOIN IN THIS RECOGNITION, UM, AND ALL OTHERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.
IT'S AN HONOR TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE AMERICAN RED CROSS OF LOUISIANA AND THE CRITICAL ROLE THAT THEY PLAY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AS WE OBSERVE RED CROSS MONTH, WE GIVE PAUSE TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS AND SPIRIT OF THE VOLUNTEERS WHO TIRELESSLY DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO PROVIDING ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT TO THOSE IN NEED.
ALMOST 90 YEARS AGO, FORMER PRESIDENT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT PROCLAIMED MARCH AS RED CROSS MONTH TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE ORGANIZATION'S CRITICAL HUMANITARIAN MISSION.
TODAY, THE AMERICAN RED CROSS IS POWERED BY VOLUNTEERS WHO WORK SELFLESSLY TO PROVIDE AID AND COMFORT TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY DISASTERS BOTH NATURAL AND MANMADE.
WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THE DEVASTATION THAT COULD RESULT FROM HURRICANES, FLOODS, FIRES, AND OTHER DISASTERS THAT STRIKE OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND IT'S DURING THESE TIMES OF CRISIS THAT THE AMERICAN RED CROSS OF LOUISIANA RISES TO THE OCCASION PROVIDING SHELTER, FOOD, AND EMOTIONAL SUPPORT TO THOSE AFFECTED, IN ADDITION TO DISASTER RELIEF, EF RELIEF EFFORTS.
THE AMERICAN RED CROSS OF LOUISIANA PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN SUPPORTING OUR MILITARY FAMILIES, PROVIDING LIFESAVING BLOOD DONATIONS AND OFFERING TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION IN LIFESAVING SKILLS, UH, TO ALL THE STAFF AND THE VOLUNTEERS OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS OF LOUISIANA, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE HERE TODAY.
JONATHAN BLAKE, CONNIE BO BOLAN, PASTOR ERIC WILLIAMS. THEY ALL LIVE AND WORK IN BATON ROUGE AND ARE HIGHLY ACTIVE IN, UH, AS RED CROSS BOARD MEMBERS.
SO WE WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SELFLESS SERVICE AND FOR BEING A SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S BEST IN HUMANITY BECAUSE OF YOUR COMPASSION AND GENEROSITY.
YOU'RE MAKING A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN COMMUNITIES ALL AROUND.
AND THANK YOU, UM, FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND WE ARE GLAD YOU'RE HERE TODAY.
SO WE CAN CELEBRATE RED CROSS MONTH IN LOUISIANA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HONORING THE RED CROSS.
UH, WE DEFINITELY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS CAPITAL WEST, UH, BOARD, I THANK, UH, THIS METRO COUNCIL AS WELL FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT HERE TODAY.
WE DO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE GREAT PARTNERSHIPS AND THE TIRELESS EFFORTS OF MANY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, DEFINITELY WANNA RECOGNIZE PASTOR ERIC A. WILLIAMS, UH, SENIOR PASTOR OF BEACON LIGHT OF BATON ROUGE.
ALSO MS. CONNIE BOLDEN AS WELL.
AND ANOTHER ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO'S THE VICE PRESIDENT AT HANCOCK WHITNEY BANK.
SO ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS, WE DEFINITELY THANK YOU VERY,
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VERY MUCH.AND AS A, UM, POSTSCRIPT, WE DID FLY THE AMERICAN RED CROSS FLAG RIGHT OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL FOR THIS MONTH.
NEXT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER CAROLYN COLEMAN TO FIRST RECOGNIZE SU UNIVERSITY SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM WINNING THE 20 22 20 23 SW CHAMPIONSHIP COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN
AND I SAY, GOOD AFTERNOON, ALL OF YOU.
AND JUST TO BEGAN HERE, WHO I HAVE BEHIND ME, AND I HATE YOU ALL BEING BEHIND ME, BUT THIS IS HOW IT HAS TO BE DONE, IS THE SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM.
AND SO HERE IT IS, JUST TO GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND IN THE WORDS OF GEORGE STRAIT, HE SAYS, WRITE THIS DOWN, UHHUH
AND SO THEY HAVE RETURNED TO THE BIG DANCE AFTER DEFEATING THE NUMBER SEVEN UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS PINE BLUFF GOLDEN LINES IN THE 2023 SOUTHWESTERN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT, THE SIX SWAC CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYED IN THE FIRST FOUR GAME OF THE 2023 NCAA TOURNAMENT VERSUS SACRED HEART ON THE CAMPUS OF STANFORD UNIVERSITY.
AMANI MAC WAYNE STANDUP AMANI CLOSED HER CAREER OUT AT SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY AS A TWO TIMES SWAC CHAMPION, SWAC TOURNAMENT MOST VALUABLE PLAYER, AND A MEMBER OF THE JAGUAR'S 1000 POINT CLUB.
THEN TANISHA MET KAF, CLOSED OUT HER CAREER AT SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY AS A SWAC CHAMPION AND LED THE JAGUARS IN A ASSIST ON SEVERAL GAMES, INCLUDING THE SWAC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.
NOW YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
COME ON UP, COACH WITHOUT THE COACH CARLOS FUNCHES, WHO'S THE HEAD COACH OF SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY, WINNING THE 2023 SW CHAMPIONSHIP AND EARNING AN AUTOMATIC BID IT TO THE 2223 WOMEN NCAA BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT.
AND THIS IS NOT A ONE MAN OR WOMAN SHOW.
COME ON UP, MARJORIE COTTON AND LADIES, I'M GONNA JUST DO THIS.
YOU KNOW, YOU ALL ARE THE REASON FOR THE SEASON, BUT I GOTTA DO THIS IS MARGIE, SHE'S AT OH, RIGHT, SHE'S WORKING, WORKING.
COURTNEY LOOKS LIKE A STUDENT HERSELF AND WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NOW, COACH PEW IS NOT HERE, BUT HE ASKS THAT I WOULD LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT HE'S SO PROUD OF EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU AND THAT HE WOULDN'T RATHER BE ANYWHERE ELSE BUT AT THE SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY WITH YOU LADIES.
SO KNOW THAT HE OUGHT TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW.
I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS GONNA BRING IT BACK TO HIM, COACH.
SO I'M GONNA MAKE A BIG DEAL WITH THAT.
JEREMY, WHERE IS JEREMY BONING? GIVE IT UP FOR JEREMY.
WILLIE SCOTT, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU WILLIE SCOTT.
SOMEBODY GOT TO STAY IN THE OFFICE AND WORK.
I GUESS SHE'S A TRAINER WITH BASEBALL.
IT'S NO NEITHER HESITATING KENDALL ARRO.
AND ACT LIKE HE'S GOING TO BE HERE.
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COME ON.THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IS OUR NAME.
AND THEY ALL READ, THEY ALL READ WINNING THE THIS SWAT THING.
AND I KNOW THE LINE IS GETTING LONG, BUT IT'S OKAY.
IT TOOK ALL OF YOU SURVIVOR LEGIONS.
TIANA, APPRECIATE TIANA LEDGE.
I SHOULD HAVE HAD COACH CALL THESE NAMES.
OKAY, LET ME CALL HER NAME ANYWAY.
AND RAYVON ROBERTSON IS IN CLASS.
NO, COME ON, AALIYAH CALL A BIG SHOT.
MIKAYLA MARSHALL, CLAIRE CLASS.
THAT'S A, THAT'S THE RIGHT PLACE TO BE TOO.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, DIAMOND HUNTER.
AND SO LADIES, I SAY TO YOU ALL THAT WE ARE, WE ARE SO PROUD OF EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU.
AND THAT YOU HAVE ONLY JUST BEGUN.
AND SO YOU WANT TO USE THIS AS A SPRINGBOARD TO DO BIGGER AND BETTER STUFF.
SO COME ON, COACH, AND GIVE US A WORD.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING THESE YOUNG LADIES.
UH, THEY DID A TREMENDOUS JOB THIS YEAR.
THEY FOUGHT THROUGH A LOT OF ADVERSITY, BUT THEY STUCK TOGETHER.
THIS IS A SISTERHOOD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE PROMOTE HERE AT SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY.
AND NOT ONLY DO THEY REPRESENT SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY ON THE COURT, WELL, THEY REPRESENT THEM TREMENDOUSLY WELL OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I'M JUST BLESSED AND HAPPY ENOUGH, I LOVE 'EM ALL.
I TREAT 'EM LIKE THIS, MY DAUGHTERS, BUT I'M BLESSED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COACH THEM AND TRUST THEIR LIVES.
HEY, UH, COACH, COACH LAMONT, I'M GONNA MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT, MAN.
AS A, AS A FORMER SOUTHERN FOOTBALL PLAYER AND ATHLETE, I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU, COACH.
BEEN WATCHING FOR A LONG TIME.
YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THOSE KIDS, MAN.
MAYOR, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SHAWN WITH US.
YOU WANNA WAIT TILL THEY FINISH? YES.
AND ANYBODY ELSE? I WOULD LOVE TO.
SEE A BIG SMILE FROM EVERYBODY.
ALL RIGHT, GOT, GOT ONE MORE RIGHT HERE.
COACH, YOU PLAYED AT NORTHEAST, RIGHT? CULTURE.
I JUST WANTED, YEAH, I WANT, I WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, I SHOULD GET, WHAT IS IT? THEY GET A RING OR WHAT? COAT PUNCHES.
I, I, I SHOULD HAVE A RING BECAUSE I SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, WITH THESE AT THE GEORGE J NEMAN COMMUNITY CENTER.
THEY ALSO, UH, OFTEN, UM, WILL VOLUNTEER JUST AS YOU INDICATED AT OUR THANKSGIVING EVENTS AND THINGS AROUND THE CENTER.
SO CONGRATULATIONS, GIRLS, YOU ARE GREAT ATHLETES, BOTH ON AND OFF THE COURT.
Y'ALL CAN LEAVE AT THIS POINT.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL WANNA STAY Y'ALL MORE TO Y'ALL.
YOU KNOW, DON'T PUT DISTRICT 10 PEOPLE.
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THEY SO POLITE IN STUDIOS.I THINK THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD THE STEAK.
YOU DIDN'T DISMISS THE YOUNG LADIES.
I'M DEFINITELY, WILL WE GONNA MAKE SURE, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE TO GET THE YES.
NEXT WE HAVE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL MEMBER CAROLYN COLEMAN TO RECOGNIZE CLIFF BOLDEN, CO-OWNER, MANAGER OF BEAU NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET IN VIRGINIA.
BELL DONATING MEALS TO COUNCIL ANDING SENIORS AT THE LEO S BUTLER CENTER, COUNCIL MEMBER COBRA AND CLIFF BOLDEN, WHO IS THE, UH, CO-OWNER AND MANAGER OF THE, UM, THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY STORE COULD NOT BE HERE.
BUT THIS GROCERY STORE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1961.
AND SO HE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN TAKING CARE OF MANY OF OUR SENIORS THERE, ATHE, LEO OS BUTLER CENTER, PROVIDING MEALS FOR THEM AND OTHER THINGS.
AND SO DUE DILIGENCE, BUT HE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY DUE TO CARING FOR A SPECIAL NEEDS DAUGHTER.
BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I GO TO THAT GROCERY STORE AND GIVE MR. BOLDEN HIS CERTIFICATE, UH, IN DONATING MEALS TO THE COUNCIL AND AGENT SENIORS AT THE DR.
LEOS BUTLER CENTER, AND HIS PERSON THAT HE USED QUITE OFTEN TO DO.
BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I GO OVER THERE TO THE BETAR, UH, GROCERY STORE AND TAKE BOTH OF THESE.
AND SHE'S AN EMPLOYEE THERE AND ENJOYS DOING WHAT SHE DOES.
COUNCIL MEMBER TIME NOW IS 3 53.
WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL FOUR O'CLOCK.
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AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A TAKE A SEAT.COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLEASE TAKE A SEAT.
WE GOT ONE WE GOT, YEAH, WE GOT ONE.
WELCOME TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
GOOD TO HAVE ALL OF YOU TUNED IN FOR OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE SPRING OF 2023.
WELCOME AGAIN, AND AT THIS TIME HERE IS THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT PRO TEM OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
TO MY RIGHT IS COUNCILMAN LAMA CO COUNCILMAN.
WELCOME EVERYONE HERE AND AT HOME AND ELLIOT VIEWING AUDIENCE.
WELCOME TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED A COUNCIL MEETING ON THIS MARCH 22ND, 2023 WEDNESDAY AT 4:00 PM AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA PLA IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROWDY GOK, TO INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS WHO WILL BE LEADING US IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
LET'S MAKE SURE THE FRED, WILL YOU HELP MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE IS ON, PLEASE? UH, YES, SIR, THIS IS TEST.
THIS IS FIRE SAFETY OFFICER TRAVIS LEE MCCARLEY, UH, 24 YEAR, UH, VETERAN OF OUR BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BATON ROUGE NATIVE.
UH, AND IN ADDITION TO SERVING AS A FIRE SAFETY OFFICER, HE IS THE DEPARTMENT'S CHAPLAIN.
SO VERY GRATEFUL THAT HE CAME TO, UH, BLESS US WITH AN INVOCATION AND THEN LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
LET'S GO TO THE LORD AND PRAYER FOR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST WELCOME YOUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY WITH US, LORD, FOR THIS MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL.
LORD, I PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS WHO GOVERN THIS GREAT CITY.
LORD, I PRAY THAT THEY WOULD COME TO YOU, LORD, AND SEEK WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AS THEY LEAD US.
LORD, I PRAY FOR ALL WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO FIND FAVOR WITH YOU.
I PRAY FOR PEACE WITHIN OUR HEARTS, WITHIN OUR HOMES, OUR SCHOOLS, AND ALL THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
LORD, WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR THANK YOU CHAPLAIN.
THANK YOU TO THE, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO OUR REID IN PARISH.
ASHLEY, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? WE HAVE A QUORUM.
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ONE, APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES OF THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL MEETING ON MARCH 8TH, 2023 IN THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL'S ZONING MEETING OF MARCH 15TH, 2023 IN THE GREATER BATON ROUGE AIRPORT COMMISSION MEETING ON MARCH 7TH, 2023.IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
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THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SHALL MOVED BY COUNCILMAN OLE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEAR ITEM ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED AFTER.[INTRODUCTIONS]
WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE INTRODUCTIONS? SECTION 2.2 INTRODUCTIONS NUMBER TWO, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SUBSTITUTION OF AMAZON.COM SERVICES LLC FOR CFRI INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AND MODIFYING THE TERMINATION DATE IN CONNECTION WITH AN ANNUAL PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAX TO EAST BAT ROUGE'S PARISH IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THE PROPERTY TAX PAYMENT OF $35,461,620.AND ACCORDING TO THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CAPITAL AREA FINANCE AUTHORITY AND AMAZON.COM SERVICES, LLC, IN RATIFYING AND APPROVING SUCH MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
NUMBER THREE, AMENDING TITLE EIGHT, CHAPTER EIGHT, SECTION 8 8 0 1 SCHEDULE OF PERMIT FEES.
SO AS TO ADD AND TO PROVIDE FOR REGULATIONS TO BE COMPREHENSIVELY ALIGNED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING, INTERNATIONAL EXISTING BUILDING CODE, INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE, INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE AND ELECTRICAL CODE AND RENU ALL CHAPTERS AND SECTIONS FOR NUMERICAL CONSISTENCY BY THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT.
NUMBER FOUR, A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN ANNUAL PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAX TO THE SHERIFF OF LIVINGSTON PARISH IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX PAYMENT OF 1040 $2 AND 92 CENTS IN ACCORD WITH A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CAPITAL AREA FINANCE AUTHORITY AND MILLENNIUM PROPERTIES INCORPORATED BY COUNCILWOMAN LAURIE ADAMS. NUMBER FIVE, AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING FAIR CHANCE HIRING STANDARDS FOR PERSONS, CORPORATIONS, AND ENTITIES THAT HAVE A CONTRACT OR COOPERATIVE ENDEAVOR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE PARISH EAST BATON ROUGE BY LIMITING CONSIDERATION OF THE CRIMINAL HISTORY OF ANY APPLICANT AND TO PROVIDE OTHERWISE WITH RESPECT THERE TOO BY COUNCILWOMAN CHINA BANKS CONDEMNATION INTRODUCTIONS
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NUMBER SIX, CHARLES JASON STAC AND TINA MARIE DEN, CAMP STAC 24 8.28 HU TWO ROAD COUNCIL, DISTRICT NINE HUDSON NUMBER SEVEN, RICHARD WALLS AND GLADYS WALLS 25 26 DAYTON STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN.
ALL ITEMS THAT REQUIRED READING HAVE BEEN READ AND A MOTION TO DELETE ITEMS 50 52, 57 AND 58 AND INTRODUCE ALL OTHER ITEMS AS AN ORDER MOTION TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS WITH EXCEPTIONAL ITEM NUMBER 45.
SHE SAY SHE'S, YOU GOTTA MAKE THAT MOTION AND SAY DELETE THOSE ONCE SHE MENTIONED TWO.
WE HAVE A REQUEST TO DELETE BY THE DEPARTMENT'S ITEMS 50 52, 57 AND 58.
MOTION TO DELETE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS AND INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER 45.
THERE IS AN OBJECTION TO THE MOTION TO INTRODUCE AND DELETE THOSE ITEMS AS WELL AS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION ITEM 45.
SO WE DON'T NEED A LITTLE CLARITY.
MOTION TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS. THAT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS. ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S START AT THE TOP.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN JR'S MOTION IS TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 45 50, 52, 57 AND 58.
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN'S MOTION.
ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GET A POINT OF ORDER HERE.
LET'S, LET'S GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
DOES ANYONE OBJECT TO THE ITEMS ASHLEY READ BEING DELETED? DO YOU OBJECT TO THAT? COUNCILMAN HUDSON? I'M SORRY.
DO YOU OBJECT TO THE ITEMS ASHLEY READ BEING DELETED? WHAT? I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT ITEMS OF THOSE ASHLEY? 50, 52, 57 AND 58, THOSE WERE ALL REQUESTED TO BE DELETED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
SO MY, MY MOTION CAN BE MOTION TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE.
SO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE.
THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE.
AND ITEM 45, COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON'S MOTION IS TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE, INCLUDING ITEM 45.
SO THE, I THE QUESTION ON THE FLOOR IS ITEM 45.
REALLY? ALL RIGHT, SO THERE'S A MOTION TO LEAVE 45 AND A MOTION TO INTRODUCE 45.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FIRST, WHICH IS TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS INCLUDING 45.
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL, HUH? CAN'T DISCUSS THEM.
NO, THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO EXCLUDE 45.
SECOND, THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WAS TO INCLUDE 45.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON IS TO INCLUDE ITEM 45 AND DELETE
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THE OTHER ITEMS. WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FIRST.DO HAVE A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER? A ROSA, SECONDED.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S THE SECOND ON? COUNCIL.
Y'ALL READY TO VOTE? HAVE WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO.
PULL MY, PULL MY, UH, MOTION PULL THE SECOND SHE WANTS TO, COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN WANTS TO PULL HIS MOTION AND PULL A SECOND.
SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR NOW IS TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE 51, 58, 50, 52, 57, AND 58, AND INCLUDE ALL OTHER ITEMS. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON'S MOTION TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED IS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE AS ASHLEY RED.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WILL GO TO YOUR
[CONDEMNATIONS]
SECOND SHEET FOR CONDEMNATIONS.SECOND SHEET FOR CONDEMNATIONS.
THERE ARE TWO CONDEMNATIONS THIS WEEK.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO PROCEED WITH ITEM 63 AND DELETE ITEM 62.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON EITHER OF THOSE ITEMS? 63 OR 62 COUNCIL MEMBERS? I'M GONNA READ THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CHANGES THEY ARE TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL CONDEMNATIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER AMAR SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS DOES HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT DO YOU GOT? DELETING? OKAY, IT IS ON THE AGENDA THAT STATED AS DELETED.
MAYBE WE GET
ANYONE? ANYONE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT? MM-HMM.
ANYONE? ANYONE? IT SAYS ABATED BY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE IS A ROBERT FLORIDA HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 62.
MR. FLORIDA, ARE YOU HERE? YES.
UH, SO I MEAN, I NEED, WHERE DID WE GO FROM HERE? THAT'S WHAT EVADED BY ALL MEANS.
OKAY, SIR, I DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.
SO AGAIN, ITEM 62 HAS BEEN DELETED AND ITEM 63 HAS BEEN DEFERRED FOR 30 DAYS.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MA SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS.
ANY OBJECTIONS CONDEMNATIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
UH, WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR SEPARATE SHEET.
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MEMBER, WE DIDN'T GET TO THE REPORTS LAST MEETING.I'M GONNA READ ALL OF THEM TOGETHER.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ALL OF THE ITEMS TOGETHER.
READ 'EM AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
ITEM ONE 16, RECEIVING A REPORT FROM THE BATTERY ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE PARIS ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DIVISION OF RISK MANAGEMENT ON THE NUMBER OF INCIDENT BYSTANDERS AND PASSENGERS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED OR INJURED DURING THE B R P D POLICE PURSUITS AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED OR INJURED IN TOTAL FROM B R P D CALLS TO SERVICE OR B R P D POLICE PURSUITS IN THE PAST 10 YEARS.
THIS REPORTED ALSO INCLUDE FINANCIAL LIABILITY, BUT THE CITY PARISH AS A RESULT OF CLAIM MADE BY THOSE IMPACTED BY POLICE PURSUITS BY YEAR FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.
ITEM ONE 17, RECEIVING A REPORT FROM THE B R P D ON THE CURRENT POLICY AND THE EXECUTION OF ARREST WARRANT.
THE REPORT SHOULD INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CLAIMS FOR DAMAGE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, EXCUSE ME.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE TWO, UH, WARRANT ITEMS TOGETHER AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE TWO, UH, POLICE PURSUIT ITEMS TOGETHER.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO ONE 16 AND ONE 18 RECEIVING A REPORT FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON THE NUMBER OF INNOCENT BYSTANDERS.
PASSES HAVE BEEN KILLED OR BY THE EAST BARRON PARISH SHERIFF'S OFFICE PURSUED A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED OR ANY.
THE TOTAL OF EAST BARRON PARISH SHERIFF'S ARE CALLS FOR SERVICE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PURSUITS IN THE PAST 10 YEARS.
THIS REPORT IS ALSO TO INCLUDE THE FINANCIAL LIABILITY AND TAXPAYER FUNDS, WHICH INCLUDES THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE, IF ANY, AS A RESULT OF CLAIMS MADE BY THOSE IMPACTING THE PURSUITS BY THE YEAR FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN JUNIOR.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE ITEMS ONE 16 AND ONE 18.
NOW, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ONE 16 AND ONE 18? ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK NOW? UH, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AFTER REPORT, JUST LET ME KNOW.
A AFTER THE REPORT, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE REPORT.
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WHO'S HERE TO GIVE THE REPORT? YOU CAN GO AFTER.REVEREND ANDERSON, DEPUTY CHIEF MYRON DANIELS IS COMING FORWARD.
UH, DEPUTY CHIEF MYRON DANIELS.
UH, I AM HERE TO, UH, FOLLOW UP ON THE ITEM, UH, ONE 17.
UH, DEPUTY CHIEF NEIL NOEL IS ACTUALLY IN THE PARKING GARAGE.
HE'LL BE UP AND HE'S GONNA COVER ONE 16 REGARDING THE PURSUITS.
UH, THE LAST TIME THAT I WAS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, UH, ALL OF THE REQUESTED INFORMATION.
YOU'RE HERE ON ITEM ONE 17? YES, SIR.
I HADN'T READ THAT ONE INTO THE RECORD.
YOU SAID THE OTHER OFFICER TO GIVE THE REPORT.
ITEM ONE 16 AND ONE 18 IS NOT HERE.
HE'S ACTUALLY, UM, YOU'RE COMING, WALKING IN THE DOOR RIGHT NOW.
I'M GONNA READ ITEM ONE 17 INTO THE RECORD SO THAT WE HAVE IT OFFICIALLY, ITEM ONE 17, RECEIVING A REPORT FROM THE BARR POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE CURRENT B R P D POLICY.
THE REPORT SHOULD INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CLAIMS FOR DAMAGE AND OWNERS AND THE LIABILITY OF THE CITY PASS FOR CLAIMS MADE BY THE PROPERTY DAMAGES DURING THE EXECUTION OF AN ARREST WARRANT FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.
ADDITIONALLY, THE REPORT SHOULD OUTLINE THE PROCESS OF PROPERTY OWNER MUST FOLLOW WHEN MAKING SUCH CLAIM FOR DAMAGE RESULTING IN THE EXECUTION OF SUCH.
ITEM ONE 19, RECEIVING A REPORT FROM EAST BARR PARISH SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE CURRENT SHERIFF'S OFFICE POLICY ON THE EXECUTION OF AN ARREST WARRANT.
THE REPORT SHOULD INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CLAIMS OR DAMAGE BY THE OWNERS OF THOSE PROPERTY AND THE RESULT OF THE EXECUTION OF AN ARREST WARRANT, AS WELL AS FINANCIAL LIABILITY TO THE TAXPAYER, WHICH FUNDS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IF ANY, FOR CLAIMS MADE A PROPERTY DAMAGED DURING THE EXECUTION OF AN ARREST WARRANT FOR THE PAST 10 YEAR.
ADDITIONALLY, TO REPORT SHOULD OUTLINE THE PROCESS, THE PROPERTY OWNER MUST FOLLOW AND MAKING SUCH A CLAIM FOR DAMAGE RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTION OF ARREST WARRANT BY COUNCIL MEMBER PLEA BY DUNN JR.
WE'RE GONNA HIT A REPORT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO TO ANYONE WHO MAY HAVE COMMENTS.
COUNSEL, I MEAN, DEPUTY CHIEF DANIELS.
UH, BUT YES, UH, TO FOLLOW UP, UH, ON THAT INFORMATION, THERE WERE ONLY A COUPLE ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE UPDATED FROM THE ORIGINAL REPORT.
UH, THE ORIGINAL REPORT WE GAVE THE 10 YEARS OF DOCUMENTED INCIDENTS.
THERE WAS ONE CLARIFICATION THAT DEFINITELY NEEDED TO BE MADE.
THERE WAS THE ASK OF HOW MANY OF THOSE WARRANTS WERE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL, UM, AND ACTUALLY, UH, RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNT FOR RIGHT ABOUT 99% OF THOSE WARRANTS VERSUS THE COMMERCIAL WARRANTS THAT ARE EXECUTED BY, UH, OUR SPECIALIZED DIVISION IN THAT AREA.
AND THE OTHER ASPECT, UH, WAS, UH, UP BRINGING IT BACK UP TO DATE, UP TO DATE, UH, WE'VE SERVED 44 WARRANT UP TO DATE THIS YEAR IN 2023, AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN RESIDENTIAL.
YOU DON'T TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE MELISSA AT A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ONE 17? IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO SPEAK TO ITEM ONE 19? IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE? ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL COME TO THE COUNCIL.
DEPUTY CHIEF, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ONE 17 AND ONE 19 COUNT? REVEREND ANDERSON.
UH, IS THERE A WRITTEN REPORT SOMEWHERE THAT'S AVAILABLE? IS THERE A WRITTEN REPORT THAT YOU ALL CAN MAKE AVAILABLE? DEPUTY CHIEF? ABSOLUTELY.
I CAN MAKE THAT REPORT AVAILABLE TO YOU.
CAN YOU, AND GIVE, SEND IT TO ALL OF US AND SEND IT TO, UH, ASHLEY, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PUT IT UP ON THE WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE TO PRINT OR DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.
UH, I, I MADE THIS REQUEST IN WRITING AND I'VE MADE IT VERBALLY SEVERAL TIMES WHEN THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN ON THE AGENDA THAT FOR THE PUBLIC, THE SAME WAY WE GET POWERPOINTS AND OTHER THINGS, THAT THE, THE DATA THAT WAS REQUESTED IS PRETTY CLEAR CUT.
AND IT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL FOR THAT TO BE PRESENTED SINCE THAT WAS THE ITEM THAT WAS ASKED BECAUSE AT LEAST FOR ME, UM, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE, WE GOT A LOT OF DETAILS AT ALL.
SO I KNOW, AGAIN, I'VE MADE THIS REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL BOTH, UH, IN WRITING AS WELL AS WHEN I'VE MADE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
BUT IT IS VERY HARD TO DO AN ANALYSIS WHEN YOU SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE DATA AND IN GOD WE TRUST.
BUT ALL OTHERS NEED TO BRING DATA.
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COUNCIL, UH, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ONE 17 AND ONE 19? WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL COUNCILMAN EARTH? SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANDY OR SOMEBODY'S IN MIND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER FOR ME, BUT, OKAY.SO MY ONE QUESTION WAS, YES SIR.
I BELIEVE WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A COUPLE, TWO WEEKS AGO, JUST HOW MANY CLAIMS ARE BEING PAID BECAUSE I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND THEN WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW DOES SOMEBODY WHO'S HAD SUFFERED A TREMENDOUS LOSS, UM, CUZ YOU WERE AT GRANDMA'S HOUSE AND YOU BAR IRRITATED YOURSELF IN AND GRANDMA DIDN'T KNOW THE POLICE WERE LOOKING FOR YOU.
HOW DO WE GET THAT MONEY RECOVERED? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS A LOT OF CLAIMS ARE BEING DENIED.
AND, AND, AND WHAT'S THE CRITERIA THAT YOU ALL USE TO DETERMINE WHO GETS PAID AND WHO DOESN'T? OKAY.
AND I, AND I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING, I HOPE I GET IT RIGHT, COUNCILMAN, I THINK ANDY QUOTED, UH, UH, MR. DOTSON QUOTED THE STATUTE THAT ABSOLVES US OF THAT LIABILITY.
I THINK HE EVEN MADE A STATEMENT, MA'AM.
WE NEED TO GET THAT CHANGED TO HELP THESE PEOPLE OUT.
THEY'RE NOT CATEGORICALLY DENIED.
UH, THEY ARE TYPICALLY, THOSE CLAIMS ARE INVESTIGATED AND COME BACK FROM OUR ADJUSTING COMPANY TO EITHER SAY, THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, EITHER PAY OR DON'T PAY.
SO THEY'RE NOT JUST ABSOLUTELY DENIED RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS YOUR ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
IT DOES, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU, I THINK YOU JUST CONTRADICTED IT BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN WHERE IT SAYS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR CERTAIN REASONS.
BUT THEN, THEN YOU'RE STILL SEND AN ADJUSTER OUT TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WOULD THE ADJUSTER GO OUT IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT ANY FAULT BASED ON THE LAW? BECAUSE WE, IF SOMEBODY FILES A CLAIM WITH US, WE STILL INVESTIGATE IT.
SO IF, IF WE GET A CLAIM, HE MAY THINK UPFRONT, GREG, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY.
ANDY AND I ARE PROBABLY STILL GONNA TELL HIM YOU NEED TO GO OUT THERE.
AT LEAST MAKE SURE YOU GOT ALL THE FACTS CORRECT BEFORE WE SAY WE'RE ABSOLUTELY NOT GONNA PAY THIS CLAIM.
WE DON'T START OFF AT THE BEGINNING SAYING, WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY THIS CLAIM.
CUZ PEOPLE FILE CLAIMS ALL THE TIME, AND I'M THE NO GUY.
I MEAN, I, I SAY NO TO CLAIMS ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S AFTER USUALLY AN INVESTIGATION AND THE ADJUSTER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO US.
I STILL, I, I TALKED TO ANDY A LITTLE BIT.
WE, UM, LOOKED AT, UH, THE, HOW, HOW WE CHANGED IT AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT ALSO WANNA KNOW IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING THE LOCAL LEVEL AS WELL.
SO I, I'LL DEAL WITH YOU ON THAT.
I, I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU.
I I DON'T KNOW IF, IF I COMPLETELY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT I'M GLAD TO MEET WITH YOU TO, TO A DEGREE, BUT THERE'S SOME ACTIONS I'D LIKE TO TAKE WITH YOU BEYOND THIS SUBJECT.
CO COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS, UM, MYRON, PLEASE, DEPUTY CHIEF.
SO, UH, REVEREND ALEXANDER, UH, MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING A REPORT AND DATA.
IS THAT SOMETHING CUZ I OFTEN GET THAT FROM DEPUTY CHIEF AND ALL, UM, NOT FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR REPORTS.
SO DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION WHERE YOU COULD EMAIL IT? YES, MA'AM, I DO.
DO YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU NOW? ANYTHING? I HAVE, UH, THE BASICS WHICH ARE THE, UH, BREAKDOWN FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS OF SPECIAL RESPONSE TEAM ACTIVITY.
AND I ALSO HAVE, UH, THE ATTACHED POLICY THAT GOVERNS ARREST AND WARRANT.
YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE COPY? ACTUALLY, I, I DO HAVE A FEW COPIES YESTERDAY.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE? UM, IT, IT DOESN'T COMPROMISE ANYONE, DOES IT? UH, NO MA'AM.
ACTUALLY THAT POLICY IS ON OUR WEBSITE.
I MEAN, AND THE DATA, UH, NO MA'AM.
UH, REVEREND ALEXANDER, IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED? I MEAN, REVEREND ANDERSON, WHAT I JUST GAVE YOU, REVEREND ANDERSON, WHAT I, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF GAVE US ALL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE SAME THING.
I KNOW HE'S GONNA EMAIL IT TO US CORRECTLY.
OH, NO, HE GAVE IT US ALL THE FIRST TIME HE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET A REPORT.
I JUST GAVE THAT TO REVEREND ANDERSON JUST MINUTE.
WELL, WE KNOW WE HAVE ACCESS AND HE'LL BE HERE FOR A MINUTE IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK WITH ABSOLUTELY.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ONE 17 AND ONE 19? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE NOW WILL HAVE, IS THE, THE OFFICER HERE TO GIVE US THE REPORT ON ITEM ONE 16? I'M LOOKING AT, YOU WANNA SPEAK AT I AIN'T COUNCIL MEMBER MO, WE HAVE GOT QUESTIONS ON THE OTHER ONE BEFORE WE HIT THAT REPORT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, EXECUTION OF ARREST, OUT OF THE EXECUTION OF ARREST WARRANTS.
FROM THE DATA THAT YOU GAVE US, HOW MANY OF THOSE RESULTED IN THE COMPLETION OF THE ARREST WARRANT? SO THE, THE INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU WAS THOSE HIGH RISK, UH, ARREST AND SEARCH WARRANTS THAT WERE PERFORMED BY
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OUR SPECIAL RESPONSE TEAM.DO YOU HAVE THAT WITH YOU? YES, SIR.
SO OUT OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GAVE US IN THAT REPORT, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARREST WARRANTS OR EXECUTION OF ARREST WARRANTS AND SEARCHES RESULTED IN AN ACTUAL ARREST? I DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION FOR YOU, SIR.
I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT SOME OF THIS REPORT'S ASKING FOR.
AND I GUESS IN THAT INFORMATION, WHENEVER YOU GET THAT REPORT IS WHEN YOU EX, UH, EXECUTE THAT ARREST WARRANT OR SEARCH.
AND WHAT I'M, THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR HOW MANY AM ACTUALLY INDICATED A ACTUAL ARREST AT THE MOMENT THAT YOU EXECUTED IT WAS DO, DO YOU HAVE THE PROBABLE CAUSE TO GO IN AND EXECUTE THIS? AND WHEN THERE'S AN EXECUTION OF THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH A HIGH RISK OR WHATEVER, THERE'S PROBABILITY HIGH, HIGH PROBABILITY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE DAMAGE TO A, UH, FACILITY, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO GET THAT NUMBER IS WE GO IN, EXECUTE AN ARREST WARRANT, SEARCH ITEM OR WHATEVER IN A RESIDENCE OR A COMMERCIAL, HOW MANY OF THOSE ACTUALLY TURNED OVER AN ACTUAL ARREST OR A CAPTURE OF A SUSPECT VERSUS, AND, AND WE DAMAGE THE PLACE OR WHATEVER THAT GOT THE ARREST OF THE SUSPECT VERSUS WE GO IN AND DO ALL THE DAMAGE AND EVERYTHING, DID NOT GET AN ARREST OF THE SUSPECT OR WHATEVER.
UH, THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UH, THE USUALLY, UM, AND I GUESS THERE IS ASSUMPTION THAT THERE'S ALWAYS DAMAGE DONE.
UH, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE WILL, UH, HAVE TO MAKE FORCED ENTRY, BUT THAT IS NOT ALWAYS ON EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE.
SO COULD I NARROW THAT REQUEST DOWN TO ANY OF 'EM THAT HAVE HAD FORCED ENTRY, EXECUTION OF AN ARREST WARRANT WITH A FORCED ENTRY, IMPLEMENTED AN ACTUAL ARREST OF A, UM, PERSON VERSUS NON-RES OF A PERSON? WHETHER IT BE THE PERSON WASN'T THERE THAT THEY THOUGHT WAS THERE OR, OR WHATEVER.
IS THAT INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GET IN THIS DATA? IF YOU GIVE ME UNTIL NEXT MEETING, I PROBABLY CAN'T GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.
I MEAN, I DON'T, I I GUESS RIGHT NOW I DON'T NEED IT.
PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY OF THESE FORCED ENTRY SEARCH AND, AND, AND EXECUTION OF, OF WARRANTS RESULTED IN DAMAGE OF THE HOUSE, THE, OF THE HOME THAT CREATED A CAPTURE OR A NON CAPTURE.
LET ME FIRST, UM, THANK B R P D FOR ENGAGING WITH US IN THIS DISCUSSION.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UM, TIP MY HAT OFF TO YOU GUYS, THE CHIEF AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
WE'RE GETTING US THE DATA, GETTING US THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, COMING UP HERE REPEATEDLY AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF NOT ONLY US, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THAT.
LET ME ALSO SAY, UM, I'M PERSONALLY OFFENDED.
I THINK WE AS EASTBOUND ROUGE PARISH SHOULD BE COLLECTIVELY OFFENDED THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND CITY GORO HAS CHOSEN NOT TO ENGAGE IN THIS CONVERSATION.
UH, THIS CITY PARISH AND THIS METRO COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE, UH, SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, BUT THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS PARISH DOES FUND THAT AGENCY.
AND THIS IS A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION THAT'S OF CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THEY SHOULD DO THE COMMUNITY, UM, A SOLID AND SHOW UP AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, SECONDLY, MINE, WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS NOT SO MUCH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF WARRANTS.
UM, AND, AND I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW MANY ENDED IN, UH, PROPERTY DAMAGE AND WHAT ARE, WHAT DO WE CLASSIFY AS PROPERTY DAMAGE WHEN WE DURING THESE WARRANTS? UH, IN MOST CASES, ALL, MOST FORCED ENTRY OCCURRED WITH THE BREACH OF A DOOR.
OKAY? AND, AND THAT IS OUR STANDARD, UH, METHOD TO ENTER A HOME.
UH, IF IT IS A HIGH RISK WARRANT, UH, WHERE WE HAVE RECEIVED, UH, APPROVAL FROM A JUDGE TO EXECUTE.
DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER OF KNOWING WHAT, WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE THAT ARE EXECUTED THAT CREATE PROPERTY DAMAGE? DO YOU HAVE THAT WITH YOU? I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER WITH ME, SIR.
AND THIS MAY NOT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I, I NEED TO KNOW.
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MAY NOT BE FOR YOU MAY BE FOR, FOR LEGAL, UH, BECAUSE I TALKED TO THE, THE CHIEF ABOUT THIS AND, AND TALKING TO RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS WHO WENT THROUGH THIS WHO WASN'T AWARE OF THE PROCESS.COULD YOU OR SOMEONE TALK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT A RESIDENT OR PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD DO IN THE EVENT THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN DAMAGED? HOW DO THEY START THE PROCESS? WHO DO THEY CONTACT? HOW DO THEY GET IT GOING TO EVEN CONSIDER THEM BEING MADE WHOLE BY THE DAMAGES THAT WERE CAUSED? I THINK THAT I, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND HIM CUZ I LEARNED, UH, SOMEWHAT ABOUT THE EXTENT OF THE PROCESS.
TYPICALLY, WHAT'LL HAPPEN, COUNCILMAN, IS SOMETIMES THE, UH, OUR POLICE LEGAL ADVISOR, DELEY MORRIS, WILL CALL ME AND SAY, HEY, WE HAD THIS INCIDENT.
THIS PERSON WANTS TO FILE A CLAIM, GREG, HERE'S THE NUMBER.
I'LL PROBABLY CALL 'EM AND SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA CALL OUR ADJUSTER.
USUALLY PAT LASALLE, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WORKS, ET CETERA.
BUT USUALLY I CALL PAT LASALLE AND SAY, HEY, THIS LADY SAYS THEY EXECUTED A WARRANT ON HER HOUSE.
I NEED YOU TO GO OUT THERE AND CHECK IT OUT.
SOMETIMES THEY WILL CALL OUR OFFICE DIRECTLY.
SOMETIMES THEY CALL SWI DIRECTLY.
SO THERE'S NO PARTICULAR ROUTE.
IF I GET IT FROM THE POLICE LEGAL ADVISOR, THAT'S FINE TOO.
THAT, BUT THAT'S, THE CLAIM WILL GET STARTED THAT WAY.
IT'LL EVENTUALLY EITHER GET TO ME OR MR. LASALLE, IT GETS TO ME.
I'M GONNA TELL HIM, HERE'S THE PERSON, HERE'S THEIR NUMBER, HERE'S WHO THEY CALLED.
CAN YOU PLEASE CONTACT THEM? AND HE OPENS A CLAIM.
AND WHO, WHO DO THE, WHO DOES THE CITIZEN CALL? YOU JUST SAID YOU RELY ON SOMEONE WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO WHO, WHO, WHO DOES THE CITIZEN CALL? IF THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN THIS SITUATION? THEY HAVE NO CONTACT.
YOU CAN TELL 'EM TO CALL ME COUNCILMAN, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU, THE NEXT THING I'M GONNA DO IS CALL MR. LASALLE AND SAID, THIS CITIZEN CALLED, THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID HAPPENED.
I NEED YOU TO GET OUT THERE AND INVESTIGATE.
SO THEY SHOULD CONTACT THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON THE AMOUNT OF, UH, PROPERTIES THAT, THAT END UP IN DAMAGE? IT'S NOT A LOT.
UH, IN FACT, PAT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T TRACK IT, BUT WE'RE GONNA START TRACKING IT NOW.
SO I CAN GIVE YOU ACCURATE INFORMATION.
BUT IT'S TYPICALLY LESS THAN FIVE TO 10 A YEAR.
AND WE DON'T PAY A LOT OF 'EM.
WE HAVE PAID SOME, BUT WE DON'T PAY A LOT OF THEM.
AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REAL BIG, BIG NUMBERS.
LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS Y'ALL DESCRIBED, WE HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T PAID THOSE KINDS NUMBERS.
I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES IS MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOUP THAT DAMAGES.
STEVEN, HAVE IT EVALUATED YOU MAY BE CORRECT.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WHOEVER GET THE WORD OUT, HOWEVER, BUT THEY CAN CALL OUR OFFICE.
I'M GONNA GET 'EM TO THE RIGHT PERSON.
THANK AND IT'S GONNA GET INVESTIGATED.
ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? WHEN ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? COUNCILMAN MO? SO I, I GUESS IF, IF I MAY ASK, UM, UH, DIRECT THIS AT COUNCIL MEMBERS OR IF ANYBODY ELSE CAN ANSWER IT.
IF THE, IF THE RESULTING, UH, EXECUTION OF A WARRANT OR SEARCH OF A HOME DOES HAVE DAMAGE AND THEY, THEY CAPTURE THE PERSON THAT'S IN THERE, IS THE, SAY IT IS AT, AT AT GRANDMA'S HOUSE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BUT THE PERSON'S ACTUALLY THERE AND THEY CAPTURE THAT PERSON AND MAKE THE ARREST, ARE THEY STILL LIABLE FOR A CLAIM IF THAT, IF YOU ACTUALLY MADE MY OPINION, I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE, WHAT THE STATUTE WOULD PROBABLY SAY.
IF YOU ASK, IN MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO GO IN YOUR HOUSE AND DAMAGE YOUR HOUSE.
CUZ THEY LOOKING FOR ME, THAT THAT'S JUST ME.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS.
RIGHT? SO FOR INSTANCE, IF I CALL TONIGHT AND SAY, CLE ROBBED THE BANK AND HE HAD AARON MO HOUSE AND THE POLICE COME IN AND TELL YOUR HOUSE UP.
IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, I, I GUESS, AND AGAIN, WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION HERE.
I GUESS THE THING WOULD BE IS WHAT KIND OF THREAT IS THAT PERSON THAT HAPPENS TO BE IN MY HOUSE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE TO GET HIM THEN AND THERE? BETTER QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I I I RESPECT THAT, THAT THEY, I I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW IT.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE YOU CAME FROM BEFORE VISITING MY HOUSE.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN MY HOUSE IS IN SHAMBLES, BUT I'M LIKE, THANK GOD HE'S OUTTA MY HOME
SO I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT'S THE WHERE'S THAT BALANCE IS THAT WE HAVE TO, IS WE AS A CITY PARISH RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CAPTURE OF THE PERSON.
IT'S, IT'S HORRIBLE THAT IT HAPPENED, BUT YET THIS PERSON'S OFF THE STREET.
I I THINK YOU MADE A GREAT POINT.
IT IT DEPENDS ON THE, THE LEVEL OF THE THREAT, WHICH IS SOMETHING I'M GONNA DISCUSS ON THE NEXT ITEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, I JUST HAVE ONE SUGGESTION AND WE HAVE A DIALOGUE UP HERE SOMETIMES SO WE DON'T BURN OUR TIME, WE USE IT.
BUT IN MY COMMUNITY CENTER, I BROUGHT UP THREE INCIDENCES WHERE TWO WERE SENIOR CITIZENS AT ARE PART OF COA AT CHARLES R. KELLY, WHERE NOW THE HOMES ON A CONDEMNATION LIST BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO FIX THEM AND HOMEOWNERS WOULDN'T PAY THE CLAIM, RIGHT? AND THESE WERE BOTH RESIDENCES WHERE THE PERSON DIDN'T LIVE THERE, BUT THESE WERE FORMALLY
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KNOWN ADDRESSES FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL.SO AT ONE POINT IN TIME IT WAS ON A LICENSE.
SO THAT GAVE THE POLICE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO ON IN, TELL GRANDMA TEAR GRANDMA'S HOUSE UP AND NOT FIX IT.
SO I DISAGREE WITH IT, BUT ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS TOLD, UM, ONE OF THESE LADIES, WE DON'T FIX THIS STUFF, YOU GOTTA FIX IT YOURSELF.
SO HE, HE IMMEDIATELY TOLD HER NOT TO FILE A CLAIM WHEN SHE WAS ASKING, HOW DO I GET THIS REPAIR? AND HE SAID, WE DON'T DO THAT.
SO ANYTIME Y'ALL HAVE FORCED ENTRY, I'M GONNA URGE THAT YOU CREATE A POLICY THAT THEY PASS OUT A CARD, THAT IF THEY WANT TO REACH OUT AND FILE A CLAIM THAT THIS CARD IS GIVEN OUT TO EACH HOMEOWNER TO AT LEAST START THE PROCESS AND GIVE THEMSELVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME WHOLE AGAIN.
I THINK THAT'S THE LEAST WE CAN DO WHILE WE WORK ON OTHER PIECES OF IT.
THAT'S JUST A COURTESY TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, DULY NOTED COUNCILMAN AND I'M, I WOULD NOT THINK OR WOULD NOT WANT TO THINK THAT ONE OF OUR OFFICERS WOULD'VE TOLD SOMEONE THAT, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS ALWAYS TO FILE YOUR, YOUR COMPLAINT THROUGH INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION IS NORMALLY THE, THE BODY, UH, THAT WORKS WITH OUR LEGAL DIVISION TO HELP GET, UH, EVERYONE IN CONTACT WITH RISK MANAGEMENT.
AND I DON'T THINK EVERY POLICE OFFICER, BAD POLICE OFFICER, I MEAN, IT'S ONE GUY I MIGHT HAVE SAID BASED ON THE LAST FOUR HOURS WE BUSTED INTO, THEY DIDN'T PAY 'EM, YOURS NOT GETTING, GETTING PAID EITHER, RIGHT? SO, BUT I THINK THE CARD COVERS THAT AND IT JUST SAYS, HEY, WE MAY HAVE CARDS DAMAGED TO YOUR HOME, LEGALLY OR ILLEGALLY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA PUT ON THERE, HERE'S A NUMBER YOU CAN DIAL WHERE YOU CAN, UH, START A, START A CLAIMS PROCESS.
I THINK THAT'S A, A EASY WAY TO GET AROUND THESE CONVERSATIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK, SIR? YES, MA'AM.
IF THERE IS A, AN ACTIVE WARRANT, UM, DOESN'T THE WARRANT HAVE TO BE ISSUED TO A FIRST PARTY ADDRESS OR THERE MUST BE A REASONABLE BELIEF THAT THAT PERSON IS IN THAT PARTICULAR HOME OR ADDRESS OR LOCATION? YES, MA'AM.
AND IT'S ALSO, UM, REASONABLE TO SAY THAT THAT WARRANT OR THAT FOR YOU GUYS TO GO OR GIRLS GO TO EXERCISE THE WARRANTS, IT HAS TO BE SIGNED BY A JUDGE AND THAT ADDRESS IS CONTAINED ON THE WARRANT AT THAT TIME? YES, MA'AM.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN, OKAY.
WE WILL NOW HEAR THE REPORT FOR ITEMS ONE 16 AND ONE 18.
I THINK I, I DROPPED OFF THE REPORT LAST COUNSEL, SO, UM, SHORT JUST READING IT, UM, I, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE STATISTICS THAT WE PROVIDED OR ANY OF THE INFORMATION TO REVEREND ANDERSON'S POINT.
I DON'T THINK SHE OR THE PUBLIC HAS THE REPORT.
SO IF YOU CAN GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE REPORT FOR THE PUBLIC STATE.
UM, SO FROM 2016 TO 2022, UH, THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT ENGAGED IN APPROXIMATELY 926 PURSUITS.
THE NUMBER OF CRASHES THAT OCCURRED DURING THE PURSUIT OF THAT TOTAL SUM IS 101.
THE NUMBER OF THIRD PARTY INJURIES AS A RESULT OF THOSE PURSUITS ARE 46, UH, NUMBER OF THIRD PARTY PROPERTY DAMAGE.
AND I KIND OF CLARIFIED PROPERTY DAMAGE AS BEING ANYTHING FROM A VEHICLE HIT IN THE HOUSE, FENCE PROPERTY, TURF LAWN, WHATEVER IT WAS THAT, THAT BELONGED TO A THIRD PARTY AND OR CITY, PARISH OR STATE IS 122 INCIDENTS.
UM, NUMBER OF CRASHES CAUSED BY THE SUSPECT IS A HUNDRED NUMBER OF CRASHES CAUSED BY B R P D WAS ONE.
UH, AND I KIND OF BREAK DOWN, UH, THE NUMBER OF INJURIES, THIRD PARTY INJURIES, STARTING FROM, UH, 2016 THROUGH 2022, THERE WERE 43 THIRD PARTY PASSENGER INJURIES AND OF, OF THE TOTAL OF 46 3 WAS A LOSS OF LIFE BREAKDOWN OF, OF DAMAGE TO THIRD PARTY PROPERTY, UM, 74 VEHICLES DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
AND DURING THAT NUMBER OF PURSUITS, 41, UH, THIRD PARTY PROPERTIES, SEVEN OF THOSE BELONG TO, UH, SEVEN OF THE TOTAL BELONG TO CITY ESTATE PROPERTY AND ONE B R P D VEHICLE AND 100 SUSPECT VEHICLES.
THAT'S COMMON TO THE GIST OF IT.
THAT IS THAT THE END OF THE REPORT? ALL RIGHT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TAKE SOME, ANY QUESTIONS AND FROM THE AUDIENCE, UH, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ONE 16 AND ONE 19, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
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AND 1 1 16 AND ONE 18.EXCUSE ME, PLEASE COME FORWARD, REVEREND.
UH, FIRST LET ME SAY THAT I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR FILLING THIS ROOM WITH FIREFIGHTERS JUST FOR SO MANY REASONS.
UH, SECONDLY, THERE'S SO MUCH TO UNPACK HERE, 926 PURSUITS.
WHAT WAS THE, THE TIMEFRAME? WHAT WAS THE PRECIPITATING EVENT IN THIS PARISH? WE PAID OUT $86,000 ON A LAWSUIT SIMPLY BECAUSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID NOT WANT TO SETTLE SOMETHING.
THE FRAN CASE, I AM TOTALLY CONCERNED THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITHOUT APPROPRIATE DATA.
EVERYTHING DOESN'T REQUIRE A POLICE CAR TO CHASE PEOPLE.
AND I THINK WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE PURSUITS WERE FOR, WERE WE CHASING PEOPLE BECAUSE IT WAS AN IMMINENT DANGEROUS SITUATION? OR WERE WE CHASING PEOPLE FOR THINGS THAT QUITE FRANKLY COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED? BECAUSE THERE ALWAYS HAS TO BE A RISK ANALYSIS.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE NOT HEARING ANY OF THAT.
WE'RE THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS THAT ARE INDEPENDENTLY DONE.
I AM REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER A COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE MULTIPLE SETTLEMENTS FOR CAR CRASHES FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THESE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND THE TAXPAYERS HAVE A RIGHT NOT JUST TO THE DATA, BUT TO INDEPENDENT AFTER ACTION ANALYSIS.
I SERVED AS AN HR MANAGER FOR 20 YEARS AND WHEN WE HAD ANY INCIDENT AT THE WORKPLACE, WHETHER IT WAS A NEAR ACCIDENT OR AN ACTUAL ACCIDENT, WE HAD ACCOUNTABILITIES AND NOT JUST ACCOUNTABILITIES FOR BLAME ACCOUNTABILITIES FOR ACTUALLY IMPROVING.
AND MY CONCERN IS DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY, YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE ARE WASTING TAXPAYER MONIES THAT WE NEED FOR OTHER THINGS BECAUSE WE WILL SIMPLY NOT PUT THE SAME KIND OF ANALYSIS AND THE SAME KIND OF EXAMINATION TO THESE INCIDENTS THAT WE WOULD PUT TO ANYTHING ELSE.
AND THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME.
WE GET SUED A LOT BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THAT ANALYSIS.
AND SO I AM HONESTLY ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO PLEASE AGAIN, USE YOUR INVESTIGATIVE POWERS TO HAVE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS AND THEN LET'S HAVE AN OPEN AND PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
CUZ THERE'S NO SUCH THING IS NOT BEING ABLE TO DO BETTER.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ONE 16 AND ONE 18? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM? COUNCILMAN MARI.
UM, GREG, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
SO WE'VE HEARD, UM, COUNCILMAN DUN MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN, UM, GET HELP TO REPAIR.
UM, LAST TIME THIS WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL, MY SON-IN-LAW GOT UP AND THERE WAS A POLICE CHASE AND IT ENDED UP IN ONE OF HIS BEDROOMS. UM, IS THERE, IF THESE PEOPLE, UH, THESE FOLKS THAT DON'T KNOW, IS THERE A STATUTE IS, I GUESS THAT'S THE RIGHT TERM, STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON WHEN THEY CAN REPORT THESE THINGS AND HOPEFULLY TO GET SOME HELP TO REPAIR THEIR HOUSES OR THEIR CARS OR THEIR PROPERTY OR WHATEVER.
AND I, AND I DIDN'T STATE THAT EARLIER, BUT TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE A ONE YEAR PERIOD BEFORE THEY'D HAVE TO FILE SOME KINDA LAWSUIT.
BUT, AND, AND AGAIN, IF WE DENY A CLAIM, IT DOESN'T IN THE CITIZEN'S CAUSE OF ACTION, THEY CAN ALWAYS SUE US THE REVEREND'S, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU CAN SUE US AND, AND TAKE YOUR TURN AT COURT.
UM, AND OF COURSE OUR OFFICE WOULD DEFEND THAT.
BUT YEAH, TYPICALLY THAT'S A ONE YEAR PERIOD BEFORE YOU'D HAVE TO FILE A SUIT.
I LISTENED TO YOUR SON, THAT WAS YOUR SON LAST TIME SON-IN-LAW.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT CLAIM, BUT, UM, WELL, HE NEVER PUT IN A CLAIM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T REALIZE HE COULD.
UM, THIS, THIS ONES, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR YOUR SON'S HOME.
WAS THAT THE, UH, PERSON THEY WAS CHASING WENT OFF OR THE BAT ROUGE POLICE OFFICER WENT OFF THROUGH THE HOME? UH, THE PERSON THEY WERE CHASING WENT THROUGH THE HOME AND OF COURSE THE POLICE OFFICERS CAME UP INTO THE YARD.
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THE BUT, BUT THE PERSON THEY WERE CHASING WENT THROUGH THE HOME.HE WENT THROUGH THE FRONT, YES, HE DID.
IS THAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY? WELL, AND SEE, WHEN WE SAY POLICE PURSUITS, I THINK WE AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THAT THE POLICE ARE LIABLE.
THAT'S A QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS ONCE WE START A PURSUIT, ARE WE THEN, DO WE THEN BECOME LIABLE? NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS DURING THAT PURSUIT? N NOT NECESSARILY A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND WE'VE TRIED SOME OF THOSE CASES, AND I THINK I SAID LAST TIME WE HAD ONE POLICE PURSUIT CASE THAT I HAD THAT WENT TO TRIAL, AND I THINK WE GOT HELD LIKE 25% LIABLE.
AND OF COURSE, THE PERSON WE WERE CHASING WAS 75% LIABLE.
UM, I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBERS, IF YOU COULD.
SO ANY, THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, YOU BRING UP SEVERAL NUMBERS ABOUT, UM, PROPERTY DAMAGE OR EITHER, UH, ONE OF OUR OFFICERS HITTING THE BUSH OR SOMETHING.
I WANNA FOCUS ON THE INNOCENT BYSTANDERS OR PASSENGERS TO GENERAL PUBLIC OF THIS DATA HERE.
INDIVIDUAL PERSONS OR PASSENGERS WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHASE JUST ON SIDE OF THE ROAD OR WHATEVER ELSE.
WHAT ARE OUR NUMBERS THERE? OVER THE 10 YEARS? PER, PER, FOR PEOPLE, ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS NOT RAN OFF THE ROAD, HIT MAILBOXES OR CAUSED DAMAGE OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT ACTUAL PEOPLE INJURED, 46.
46 OUT OF HOW MANY? UH, 926 PURSUITS.
AND AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S NOT COUNTING ANY INJURY TO A SUSPECT ON OFFICE.
THAT'S JUST DUE TO BYSTANDERS.
AND OF THOSE 46, DID YOU SAY TWO WERE RESULTS OF RESULTING IN DEATH? THREE RESULTED IN LOSS OF LIFE THROUGHOUT THAT TIME PERIOD.
UM, OF THOSE, AND THAT WAS, THAT HAPPENED DURING A PURSUIT? YES, SIR.
UM, OF THOSE THREE IN THE INVESTIGATOR PURSUIT, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING I TALK TO YOU ONE-ON-ONE OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED HERE OR WHATEVER.
UM, THE OFFICER MAKES THE CALL TO CONTINUE A PURSUIT OR DUE THE PURSUIT AT THAT MOMENT.
AND IT'S A VERY FLUID AND DYNAMIC.
THEY KNOW IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOLS AND EVERYTHING BEFORE THEY HIT THE GAS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO THOSE THREE INCIDENTS OCCURRED, BUT AS A RESULT OF THOSE, I GUESS WITH THOSE INCIDENTS THAT DID OCCUR, WAS THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A LEGAL THING OR WHAT, WAS THERE ANY FAULT OF, OF OURS OR OUR POLICE OFFICERS THAT INFLICTED THIS DAMAGE? I'M A, I, I'D HAVE TO DEFER SOME OF THAT QUESTION TO LEGAL, BUT I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, THERE WERE TWO IN 2022, AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT.
UM, AND THE OTHER WAS IN 2018.
UM, I CAN CHECK TO SEE WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT'S AT AND PROBABLY GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.
I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE, THE, THE NUANCES OF THE SITUATION BEFORE WE START GOING DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE OF, YOU KNOW, UH, SHOULD WE PURSUE, SHOULD WE NOT PURSUE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF 'EM HAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
UM, I GUESS THEN AGAIN, THE MAIN THING I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IS, WAS THIS THE PERSON THEY WERE PURSUING THAT CAUSED THIS BODILY HARM OR WAS IT ONE OF OUR OFFICERS THAT CAUSED THIS BODILY HARM? ALSO, IN THAT FACT, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD WANT ASKED IS, WAS AFTER INVESTIGATION, WAS THE PURSUIT JUSTIFIABLE RIGHT.
IN THAT? SO JUST SOME QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD HAVE, SO I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
UM, PART PART OF GOING BACK AND PULLING THESE NUMBERS WAS GOING THROUGH.
SO ANY AND EVERY TIME THERE'S A PURSUIT IN THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE BY A BATON ROUGE POLICE OFFICER, HE IS BOUND BY OUR POLICY, WHICH IS 15 PAGES LONG.
AND IN THAT IT REQUIRES HIM TO REPORT THAT PURSUIT.
AND THAT PURSUIT IS REPORTED ON A PURSUIT FORM.
THAT FORM MAKES ITS WAY THROUGHOUT BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION THROUGH SUPERVISORS, UM, AND IT, IT WINDS UP IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
SO EVERY ONE OF THEM IS EXAMINED
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TO THAT DEGREE.UM, EVEN OUR TRAINING ACADEMY SEES IT BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A TRAINING ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, WE, WE, BECAUSE WE ARE AN ACCREDITED AGENCY, OUR, OUR POLICIES ARE ALWAYS REVIEWED, UM, BY A THIRD PARTY.
UM, WE, WE, OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE ISSUES AND NUANCES THAT COME UP, WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO, TO, UH, LOOKING AT CHANGES IN OUR POLICY.
HEY, I, I KNOW I'M IN MY SECOND FIVE MINUTES, SO IF YOU WANT TO, OKAY.
SO, UM, SO REMEMBER, MARK, THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR ONLY FIVE MINUTES.
I'M JUST MESSING WITH YOU GUYS.
I WAS SAY I I THOUGHT WE WAS ON THE OTHER ONE.
SO ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME IF THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
SO I GUESS OF THESE THAT HAVE HAPPENED HERE, ESPECIALLY THE, THE, UM, THREE DEATHS, BUT I ALSO LIKE TO KNOW THE OTHER ONES.
WHEN Y'ALL DO THESE INVESTIGATION, IS THERE A DETERMINATION OF FAULT? ABSOLUTELY.
OF, OF THESE THREE, AND AGAIN, I I'M TRYING TO BALANCE HERE CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE ANSWERED OR IF, I GUESS HIS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE THREE DEATHS, THE DETERMINATION OF FAULT WAS, DO WE KNOW? WE DO KNOW.
I WOULD HAVE TO, I'M SAYING 2 22 ARE PROBABLY STILL GOING ON OR WHATEVER ELSE.
BUT LIKE 2018, IS THAT OVER WITH AND DONE AS FAR AS THE INVESTIGATION AND DETERMINATION AND ALL THAT? DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT ONE WAS? IT SHOULD BE, I CAN GIVE YOU AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
I CAN PROVIDE IT TO ALL COUNSEL, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T WANT ANY, I WOULD HAVE TO, TO RELY ON MY MEMORY AND I HATE TO DO THAT.
AGAIN, THAT'S, UH, INFORMATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
UM, AS FAR AS DETERMINATION OF FAULT, GREG, SO SINCE EACH ONE OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS COME UP WITH A DETERMINATION OF FAULT, OBVIOUSLY, UM, DOES THAT, I, I GUESS, DOES THAT CHANGE? I, I GUESS IT WOULD CHANGE THE FACTOR AS FAR AS WHETHER WE PAY OUT WHAT TYPE OF LAWSUIT IT IS OR ANYTHING ELSE, OR DEFENSE.
IT, IT COULD, I MEAN, IF THE POLICE MAKES AN INTERNAL DECISION ON WHO THEY THINK'S AT FAULT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT GONNA GET SUED.
YOU KNOW, I, I JUST ANTICIPATE THOSE THINGS COMING REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THEIR INVESTIGATION.
OF COURSE, WE USE THEIR INVESTIGATION AS A TOOL FOR OUR DEFENSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I ASSUME WE, I JUST, MAYBE THAT'S CYNICAL ON MY, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THIS HAPPENED, YOU ASSUME IT'S COMING TO US.
IT IT'S COMING TO US IN A SUIT NO MATTER WHAT.
I MEAN, WHEN COUNCILMAN DUNN PULLED ME OUT LAST TIME AND SAID HE WAS DEFERRING HIS ITEM, WE HAD A POLICE PURSUIT THAT NIGHT.
I HADN'T GOTTEN A CLAIM YET, BUT I'M ASSUMING I'M GOING TO GET A CLAIM.
SO, UM, THAT'S ONE THAT'LL BE PENDING.
I CAN TELL YOU I'LL BE PENDING.
I AIN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING, BUT I, I CAN ASSUME THAT EVENTUALLY EITHER ME, MR. LASALLE, MR. DODSON, SOMEBODY WILL BE NOTIFYING THAT.
SOMEBODY WILL BE MAKING A CLAIM IF I HAD TO GUESS.
ANYBODY CAN HAVE MY TWO MINUTES AND 28 SECONDS IF Y'ALL WANT TO.
COUNCIL MEMBER, DUN, MAY IF YOU COULD COME AS WELL, BOTH OF Y'ALL.
I THINK, SIR, I THINK Y'ALL PROBABLY GONNA BE TO ALWAYS LIKE SOMEBODY COLLECTIVELY.
AND, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR ENGAGING IN THIS DISCUSSION.
SAME AS THE LAST ITEM YOU'VE BEEN, IN MY OPINION, COOPERATIVE AND, AND, AND, UM, GETTING, GETTING THIS INFORMATION THAT WE REQUESTED.
BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE HAVE.
JUST A LOT OF IT HAS TO BE PULLED BY HAND BECAUSE WE WEREN'T CAPTURING THAT DATA IN THAT WAY.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY WE DIS DEFERRED ONE AT LEAST ONE TIME.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND BASED ON THE NUMBERS YOU REPORTED, UH, THE 9 26, UH, CHASE IS ABOUT 10 TO 12% IN, IN CRASHES.
OUT OF THOSE CRASHES ABOUT 46% IN, IN INJURIES.
AND ABOUT 3% OF THOSE INJURIES, ABOUT 60.5% OF THOSE INJURIES END IN DEATHS.
SO MY QUESTION IS, COULD YOU GIMME THE TIMELINE AGAIN OF WHEN YOU CAPTURED THESE NUMBERS? YES, SIR.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE REINFORCE THAT POINT SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW, LIKE THE ONE THAT HAPPENED TWO WEEKS AGO IS, IS NOT IN THIS NUMBER.
UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING OUT THE POINT THAT THERE ARE MADE ABOUT THE PREVIOUS ITEM WITH THE FORM.
UM, I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM WHERE WE CAN CREATE A POLICY TO GIVE RESIDENTS OR HOMEOWNERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS A FORM LISTING THE INFORMATION OF WHO THEY CAN CONTACT IF THEY WANNA, UH, SUBMIT A CLAIM.
AS COUNCILWOMAN AMAR SAID, HER SON-IN-LAW HAD NO IDEA THAT HE EVEN HAD THAT OPTION.
SO I THINK WHETHER IT'S THE, UM, BREACHING OF A HOME THROUGH A WARRANT, OR WHETHER IT'S SOME CHASE THAT ENDS UP IN SOME PROPERTY DAMAGE, I THINK THAT'LL BE A GOOD IDEA TO LEAVE THAT INFORMATION.
AND I'M TOLD OTHER AGENCIES ALREADY DO THAT.
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TOLD THERE'S NOT ANYTHING FOREIGN OR NEW.WELL, COUNCILMAN, I CAN TELL YOU, UH, IN THOSE INSTANCES, UM, PART OF OUR, OUR POLICY IS TO HAVE HEALTH AND SAFETY, OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY DIVISION, UH, NOTIFIED AS WELL AS INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
WHEN THERE IS PROPERTY DAMAGE, OUR, OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS NOTIFIED AND WE DO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT INFORMATION.
AND THERE WAS ONE POINT, AND THIS WAS FOR, UH, THE REVEREND, UH, THAT INFORMATION REGARDING, UH, HOW PURSUITS STARTED, THE NUMBER OF PURSUITS, ALL THOSE THINGS.
IT IS ACTUALLY ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE, WE PUT OUT AN ANNUAL REPORT EVERY YEAR, UH, BECAUSE WE DO CAPTURE A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION.
THE CHIEF SENT ME THAT, THAT REPORT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AND HE EVEN TALKED TO ME PERSONALLY AND US, UH, PUBLICLY ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MAKING.
UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
HOWEVER, WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, SEEING THESE, THESE CRASHES.
THERE WAS ONE YESTERDAY THAT DIDN'T END IN THE DEATH, BUT IT WAS A CHASE THAT ENDED IN MULTIPLE VEHICLES, UH, CRASH.
SO WHERE I LIKE TO CENTER THE CONVERSATION IS, ONE, IS THE DAY THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, BUT TWO, GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE LEVEL OF THREAT.
CUZ OFTENTIMES WE'RE SEEING WHERE THESE CHASES ARE THE RESULT OF A MINOR TRAFFIC VIOLATION OR, UH, IMPROPER EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE END UP WITH AN INJURY OR DEATH.
SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD? WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF THREAT THAT WE ARE GOING TO DETERMINE THAT, HEY, IT'S JUSTIFIABLE ENOUGH TO ENTER INTO THIS PURSUIT AND POSSIBLY PUT CITIZENS AT RISK.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T HEAR A LOT OF 'EM WHERE THERE'S BEEN LIKE A VIOLENT CRIME.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RUNNING FROM A VIOLENT CRIME AND YOU'RE CHASING THEM.
AND, AND I MAY JUST HAVEN'T HEARD THOSE, BUT I'D WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A TRAFFIC VIOLATION OR SOMETHING MINOR, IS IT, IS IT WORTH US, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THROUGHOUT CITY AND PUTTING CITIZENS AT RISK, AT RISK? WELL, IN MY OPINION, UM, I THINK OUR POLICY SPEAKS BEST TO THAT PRACTICE.
UM, OUR POLICY STATES THAT WHEN A PURSUIT STARTS, UM, IT DOES GIVE AND, AND IT DOES GIVE THE OFFICERS DISCRETION WHETHER TO PURSUE OR NOT.
BUT IT ALSO, UH, INVOKES THE SUPERVISION TO BE NOTIFIED IMMEDIATELY WHEN THAT TYPE OF PURSUIT STARTS.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, AND I, I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT OUR OFFICERS CALL OFF QUITE A FEW PURSUITS.
UM, SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT GO INTO PLAY OR THE VIOLATION, WHETHER IT'S A MISDEMEANOR OR A FELONY, IT ALSO TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION IF WE KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS THAT WE ARE CHASING.
UM, BUT THEN IT GETS INTO THE TERRAIN ITSELF.
UM, WEATHER CONDITIONS, UH, ROADWAY CONDITIONS OR JUST TRAFFIC ITSELF, UH, UH, UH, A PURSUIT, UM, AT THREE O'CLOCK DURING SCHOOL ZONES IS, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT, UH, AS COMPARED TO A, UH, AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WHERE THERE'S LIMITED TO NO TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAY.
SO OF COURSE, ONE GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY.
AND JUST AS DEPUTY CHIEF NOEL STATED INITIALLY, UM, THOSE THINGS ARE VERY FLUID AND THOSE DETERMINATIONS ARE MADE, UH, LIKE I SAID ON THE ON THE FLY.
TWO MORE THINGS, UH, MYRON, I'D LIKE Y'ALL TO TALK TO US ABOUT HOW YOU INTEGRATING TECHNOLOGY IN THESE SITUATIONS AND WHAT ARE THEY REPLACING, HOW YOU'RE USING IT.
UM, ALSO AS IT RELATES TO OUR CURRENT POLICY, HOW DOES IT LINE UP WITH BEST PRACTICES? BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST A BATON ROUGE CONVERSATION, IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENING NATIONALLY.
SO WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES? WHERE ARE WE AS IT RELATES TO REACHING BEST PRACTICES? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUR PLAN OF TO UTILIZE THIS TECHNOLOGY TO REDUCE THE NEED FOR EVEN, UH, RESPONDING BECAUSE DRONES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE HAVE BEEN USED AROUND THE COUNTRY TO, TO SUBSTITUTE? WELL, I CAN SPEAK ON THE BEST PRACTICES AND THEN I'LL LET, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF NOEL SPEAK ON THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE OF IT.
UH, BEST PRACTICES, UH, I, I AM HAPPY TO SAY IF YOU COMPARE OUR POLICIES TO MANY OTHERS, YOU'LL SEE A, A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
LIKE HE STATED, UH, HE WASN'T EXAGGERATING WHEN HE SAID, OUR POLICY IS 15 PAGES.
IT IS 15 PAGES, UM, WHERE OTHER DEPARTMENTS MAY BE ONE.
UM, WE, YOU CAN'T PUT EVERY, UH, INSTANCE OR SCENARIO INTO POLICY, BUT YOU CAN, UH, CREATE, UH, A VERY SAFE POLICY TO OPERATE WITHIN.
UM, AS FAR AS OURS BEING IN LINE WITH BEST PRACTICES, ABSOLUTELY WE'RE KALIA CERTIFIED.
OUR POLICIES ARE, UH, LOOKED AT THROUGH THIRD PARTY LENSES TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE,
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UH, OPERATING WITHIN BEST PRACTICE.COUNCILMAN? SO AS FAR AS TECHNOLOGY, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
IF, UH, IF WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, PRIOR TO OR DURING, AT ANY POINT IN TIME, UH, AFFIX A GPS DEVICE TO THAT VEHICLE, THEN WE WOULD CALL THAT PURSUIT OFF.
WE ARE LOOKING AT, THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT, THAT HAVE SOME PRETTY INTERESTING DELIVERY SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, PRICE POINT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE THAT.
AND THE OTHER PIECE IS, UH, AND, AND THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL COMPANIES DOING THIS AS WELL.
I KNOW WE SPOKE TO, UH, AND MET WITH AT LEAST ONE THAT DOES, UM, A GEOFENCING WARNING.
SO THERE'S DEVICES THAT WOULD BE PUT INTO ALL OF OUR MARKED CARS.
UM, WHEN THAT PURSUIT STARTS, IF THAT PURSUIT STARTS, THEY PRESS THAT BUTTON AND A TWO MILE RADIUS OR A RADIUS TO BE PROGRAMMED AROUND THAT VEHICLE WILL ALERT WHOEVER HAS THE APP THAT A PURSUIT IS IN PROGRESS IN THAT AREA.
SO CALL IT AN EARLY WARNING SYSTEM, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING IN A VERY DYNAMIC AFFLUENT ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, IS, IS, UH, OUR AIR SUPPORT, UH, WHICH DOES A FANTASTIC JOB WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE UP AND, UH, WHEN THEY'RE OPERATING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND, AND MANPOWER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ONCE THE AIRCRAFT HAS THE VEHICLE TO PURSUE THE, THE MOTOR VEHICLES BACK OFF.
SO IT BECOMES A HELICOPTER ISSUE.
IF WE HAVE A DRONE IN RANGE, SAME, SAME PROCESS.
SO SOME OF THE, THAT INFORMATION WAS GIVEN OUT BY THE CHIEF WHEN HE CAME TO SPEAK BEFORE US, THE TWO MOST RECENT INCIDENTS.
AND NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM SO MUCH IN SPECIFICS IN DETAIL, BUT THE ONE ON YESTERDAY IN SOUTH BATON ROUGE AND THE ONE ON, UH, TWO WEDNESDAYS AGO ON ACADIAN AND, UH, FAIRFIELD.
WHERE DID TECHNOLOGY FAIL US OR DID WE NOT ENGAGE WITH TECHNOLOGY ON THOSE? YOU WANT TO, I, I THINK IT'S AN ISSUE OF HOW LONG THAT PURSUIT ACTUALLY WENT ON.
UM, I KNOW IT'S AN ONGOING CASE, BUT IT WAS, THE PURSUIT DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH OR LONG ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GET ASSETS.
IT WAS, IT WAS OVER BEFORE IT STARTED.
AND I DON'T WANT TO, UH, MINIMIZE ANY OF IT.
ALL OF IT'S A TRAGEDY, BUT IT, IT'S THAT DYNAMIC.
SO, AGGRAVATED FLIGHT FROM AN OFFICER CARRIES UP TO FIVE YEARS AT HARD LABOR.
UM, AGGRAVATED FLIGHT FROM AN OFFICER WITH SERIOUS BODILY INJURY CARRIES UP TO 10.
WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, PEOPLE CHARGED WITH THAT PARTICULAR CRIME OR EITHER OF THOSE CRIMES, ARE YOU SEEING ENFORCEMENT FROM OUR JUDGES IN THE 19TH J D C? I THINK THAT THE REASON WHY I ASK THIS, UM, IS BECAUSE I THINK A BIG DETERRENT, UM, FROM HAVING PEOPLE COMMIT CRIMES IS KNOWING WHAT ATTACHES AND WHAT PENALTIES ATTACHED TO THOSE CRIMES.
AND IF IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED OR IF IT'S NOT BEING, UM, IF, IF FOLKS ARE NOT PLEADING GUILTY AND THESE THINGS ARE SIMPLY BEING DISMISSED FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR THE JUDGES, UM, ALLOWED TO OCCUR.
AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHERE OUR PROBLEM LIES.
SO WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH HAVING THAT ENFORCEMENT IN, UM, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE ARRESTING THESE FOLKS FOR COMMITTING THOSE CRIMES? SO WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY REGARDING THAT EXACT THING.
UM, WE HAVE SEEN, FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, MORE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO, TO RUN FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AS COMPARED, UH, BEFORE.
UH, IT, AND I I'M GONNA SAY IT, UM, AT ONE POINT IN TIME, UM, CRIMINALS DIDN'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD GO TO JAIL FOR CERTAIN WARRANTS, MISDEMEANOR.
SO THEY, THERE WAS NO REASON TO RUN, THERE WAS NO ROOM IN THE JAIL, SO THEY WOULD NOT RUN.
AND, UM, WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND THE CONVERSATION, UM, FROM OUR END WAS THAT WE WOULD DEVELOP MORE COMMUNICATION WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO ENSURE THAT PROSECUTION OF THOSE CASES ARE, ARE, ARE PRIORITY IN HIS OFFICE.
AND, UH, HE WAS VERY RECEPTIVE AND, AND WE'VE COMMUNICATED A, A NOTI NOTIFICATION SYSTEM TO OUR UNIFORM PATROL AS WELL AS OUR DETECTIVES AND SPECIAL, UM, SPECIAL INVESTIGATIVE UNITS ON NOTIF NOTIFICATION SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE THINGS ADDRESSED.
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OKAY.I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT DATA MOVES FORWARD.
I THINK THAT, UM, OFTENTIMES I'VE HEARD WITH, UH, OFFICERS FROM ALL SORTS OF ENTITIES, NOT JUST WITH BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT THEY, THEY ARREST FOLKS FOR CRIMES AND THEN THERE'S NOT AN ENFORCEMENT ON THE BACK END.
UM, AND SO IT'S IN SOME, SOME WAYS IN SHAPES AND FORM IT'S PLAIN CATCH AND RELEASE.
UM, SO, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PRETRIAL DIVERSION PROGRAMS FOR FIRST TIME OFFENDERS, AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE.
BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IF WE HAVE LAWS, THEY HAVE TO BE ENFORCED FOR PEOPLE TO RESPECT, UM, THE PENALTY PHASE THAT GOES ALONG WITH COMMITTING THOSE CRIMES.
BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE ON THAT.
YEAH, WE CAN TRY AND GET THANK YOU DEPUTY CHIEFS.
SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
[Item 120. 23-00411]
GONNA TAKE THE EMERGENCY ITEMS SINCE IT'S ON THE LAST PAGE WITH THE OTHER ITEMS. MM-HMM.ITEM ONE 20, AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT TO AMEND THE CONTRACT WITH SHENAY MAYOR AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED FOR CYBERSECURITY SERVICES, INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT BY $48,300 FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $850,920 BY INFORMATION SERVICES DIRECTOR.
REASONING FOR EMERGENCY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PRICING THAT EXPIRES ON MARCH 31ST, 2023 IN ACCORDANCE WITH 1 16 4 42.
THIS ITEM MUST BE DECLARED IN EMERGENCY BY TWO THIRD ROAD IN METROPOLITAN COUNCIL.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DECLARE AN ITEM IN EMERGENCY? THERE ARE A MOTION.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL HUNTER, SECONDED BY THE CHAIR.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO ANY OBJECTION TO DECLARING THE ITEM IN EMERGENCY? YOU? OKAY.
WELL, WE WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? WHEN NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I JUST NEED TO STAND FOR THE RECORD.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM ONE 20 HAS BEEN APPROVED.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU WOULD, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO PAGE 16
[64. 23-00141]
SEVEN, EXCUSE ME, PAGE 15, ITEM 64, AMEND TITLE 13, SECTION EIGHT 13, CODE TWO EIGHTY FIVE IN PROPER TELEPHONE COMMUNICATION.SO AS TO ADD MESSAGING AND OTHER MESSAGING AS A FORM OF IMPROPER COMMUNICATION BY PARISH ATTORNEY.
IS ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 64? NO.
LAMONT, WE GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 64? SO MOVE BY COUNCILMAN MO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN RAT.
ANY OBJECTION? ITEM 64 BEEN APPROVED.
I'VE JUST BEEN REMINDED BY, WELL, I'VE BEEN INFORMED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE HERE TO ENGAGE IN THIS CIVIL, UH, RESPONSIBILITY OF COUNCIL MEETINGS.
OVER THERE, UH, I SAY CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE I THANK EVERY CITIZEN IN THIS PARISH SHOULD COME TO AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER IN THEIR LIFETIME.
AND I WANT TO THANK, UH, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE BATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT FROM, FOR COMING AND ENGAGING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE COME TO THE MIC ON ANY OTHER ITEMS. WE SINCERELY WOULD LOVE TO ENGAGE YOU IN FIRE DEPARTMENT.
[65. 23-00299 (Part 1)]
YOU GO TO ITEM 65 NOW, AUTHORIZED AND SETTLEMENT IN THE MATTER ENTITLED CHARMAINE REID VERSUS TROY LAWRENCE, JR.AT ALL IN THE AMOUNT OF 55,000, APPROPRIATING 55,000 FOR SUCH PURPOSE BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS? THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? ITEM 65.
[66. 23-00309]
TO APPROVE, WE GO TO ITEM 66, CERTIFYING THE BATTERY OF CITY PROBATION OFFICERS.A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY PARISH ON EMPLOYED ON DUTY COMMISSION POST CERTIFIED OFFICER WILL PAY SOLELY FROM MUNICIPAL FUNDS BY THE CITY PARISH AND AUTHORIZED THE MERIT PRESIDENT.
EXECUTE THE APPLICATION SUPPLEMENT OF PAY FROM LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND BATTERY CITY COURT POST CERTIFIED PROBATION OFFICER TO ALLOW THE FINANCE DIRECTION OF CLERK COURT JUDICIAL ADMINISTRATOR EXECUTE ALL.
IS ANYONE HERE, EXCUSE ME BY THE CLERK COURT? IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 66? WILL NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 66.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM.
[67. 23-00308]
BEEN APPROVED? 67.AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AWARD FROM BURN JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF 201050 CENT TO ALLOW BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 67 WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE SOME MOVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN.
[68. 23-00310]
BEEN APPROVED.ITEM 68, AUTHORIZED MAYOR PRESENT TAKE TWO AGREEMENT TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS RESEARCH INSTITUTE FOR MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF E S R I G I S SOFTWARE IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 78,000 BY INFORMATION SERVICES DIRECTOR.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 68? WE'RE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN AND THE OBJECTIONS WE'RE
[69. 23-00311]
NOW GO TO 69,[01:30:01]
AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT TO A CONTRACT WITH TRANSFERS, LLC FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $87,000.ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 69? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 69? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURST, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM.
I'M GONNA STATE, UH, I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS ITEM 30.
MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCC COLEMAN.
SHOW COUNCIL MEMBER HER SUSTAIN IT.
[70. 23-00312]
HAS BEEN APPROVED.WHEN NOW GO TO ITEM 70 AUTHORIZING METROPOLITAN COUNCIL.
DECLARE LAW SIX SQUARE SEVEN NORTH BATON ROUGE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ADJUDICATED PROPERTY NOT NEEDED FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE.
AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRESENT, ENTER TO AN ACT OF EXCHANGE WITH WALLY HAROLD BRAZIER BY COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? WILL NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER'S.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURST.
[71. 23-00316]
HAS BEEN APPROVED.AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT TO EXECUTE TO CONTRACT AND CONSTRUCTION COST SERVICES.
WOULD G I M JK, M G, EXCUSE ME, G E M JK M, CONSTRUCTION CONSULTANTS LLC FOR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH MOVER CAPACITY PROJECT HOOPER ROAD, BLACKWATER BAY, THE JEWEL ROAD, AND AN MOUNT TIC C 83,000 HUNDRED AND $60 BY TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE DIRECTOR.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM WILL NOW GO TO COUNCIL.
THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SOME MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MO SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM, ANY OBJECTION?
[72. 23-00319]
BUT ITEM 72, AMEND THE 2023 ALLOTMENT OF POSITIONS FOR THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE AND PARIS OF EAST BATON ROUGE.SO AS TO CHANGE THE ALLOTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FOLLOWS MARCH 23RD, 2023.
ENVIRONMENT OF SERVICES, WASTEWATER COLLECTION, DELETE HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, MAINTENANCE WORKER AND MAINTENANCE WORKER.
TWO, WASTEWATER MECHANIC, JOB AND PLANT INSTRUMENT TECHNICIAN BY ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR AND HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 72? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL.
SO MOVE BY COUNCILMAN MOMENTS COLEMAN.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ANY OBJECTION? 72 HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[73. 23-00320]
AUTHORIZED THE MERIT PRESIDENT EXECUTE ALL REQUIRED CONTRACTS NOW RELATED TO DOCUMENTATION FOR THIRD PARTY MEDICAL BILLING AND ADMINISTRATION SERVICES WITH EMS, CMS WILL PAY 4.5% OF COLLECTIVE REVENUE TO EM.SMC, THE CONTRACT WITH EMSC WILL BEGIN JUNE 1ST, 2023 AND TERMINATE ON MAY 31ST.
2026 WITH TWO OPTIONAL ONE YEAR RENEWALS BY EMERGENCY MURDER MEDICAL SERVICES DIRECTOR.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM WHEN I'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER MO.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN? SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS? ITEM 73 HAS BEEN APPROVED.
YOU WANT TO GO TO 72? YOU'D LIKE TO READ? I, I'M NOT REQUESTING TO HEAR, I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A PERSONAL POINT OF PRIVILEGE TO COMMENT REAL QUICK ABOUT 72 AND THANK THE DIRECTOR FOR DOING WHAT WE HAD ASKED DURING THIS PRIVATIZATION OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BY TAKING CARE OF THESE EMPLOYEES OF EAST ROUGE PARISH BY GETTING THEM INTO THE SAME STATUS THAT THEY WAS IN.
AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED AND I WANTED TO THANK THE DEPARTMENT FOR DOING THAT.
[74. 23-00323]
GO NOW TO ITEM 74.WE'RE SENDING THE FINAL ACCEPTANCE ON WORK DONE BY THE CONTRACT UNDER THE CONTRACT FOR SALES TAX STREET AND ROAD REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
PROJECT 75 DASH FIRE STREETS IN NEW DAYTON, FAIRWOOD MAP AND LAKES OF STONEGATE, SHERWOOD MAYER, BOCO, FOX CROSS SUBDIVISION, ADAMS STREETS, ST.
JOSEPH AND PONDEROSA AUTHORIZED AND EXCUSE TO CHANGE ORDER BEING CHANGED.
ORDER NUMBER THREE TO THE CONTRACT EXECUTED BETWEEN THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE AND PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE AND RJ DAYO AND SONS CONTRACTORS INCORPORATED IN THE AFOREMENTIONED PROJECT BY TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE DIRECTOR.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED BY THE CHAIR.
IS THERE SECOND? SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOK.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM 74 HAS BEEN APPROVED.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. I WAS JUST GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT.
FRED, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE? COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD OUR FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROJECT, THE CONTRACTOR DID EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT NOT BEING CREDITED OR GETTING FUNDING FOR SOME UTILITY DELAYS IN THE PROJECT.
UH, CERTAINLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT WAS BROUGHT UP AFTER WE PUT ALL THE PAPERWORK TOGETHER, OUR TEAM HAD LOOKED AT IT AND FELT LIKE THAT IT WAS, IT, IT DID MEET THE WARRANTS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK IN TO INCLUDE THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR.
[75. 23-00324]
TO AN ITEM 75 AUTHORIZED BRASCO TO ENTER TO A CO COOPERATIVE ENDEAVOR AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF LOUISIANA DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATION TO ACCEPT A 5 MILLION WATER SECTOR GRANT TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A THE NORTH REGIONAL WASTEWATER CONSOLIDATION PROJECT.[01:35:01]
DIRECTOR, IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 75? WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SOME MOVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOK? SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN? ITEM 75[76. 23-00326]
HAS BEEN APPROVED.WE GO TO ITEM 76 AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRESENT AND OR BRASCO EXECUTE AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE WITH GRADY CRAWFORD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INCORPORATED FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL PARISH WIRE SEWER REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT PROJECT RESULTING IN AN INCREASE IN CONTRACTING AN AMOUNT OF $300,000 BY ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 76? WE NOT GO TO COUNCIL.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 76.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NO.
SECONDED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER MO.
[77. 23-00313]
HAS BEEN APPROVED.GO TO ITEM 77 AUTHORIZING THE PARISH ATTORNEY IN ITS OFFICE TO ACQUIRE THROUGH PURCHASE EXCHANGE AND INSTITUTION OF APPROPRIATION AND PROCEEDINGS TO TAKE SUCH ACTIONS AS MAY BE REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THE ACQUISITION OF LAND NECESSARY FOR CENTURION AVENUE OVER DRAINAGE BAYOU BRIDGE REPLACEMENT BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 77.
WHEN HOWEVER, TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? ITEM 77.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
[78. 23-00318]
AUTHORIZED A SETTLEMENT IN THE CLAIM OF LIBERTY PERSONAL INSURANCE COMPANY SARAH EEK FOR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM AN AUTO ACCIDENT CAUSED BY BATON ROUGET POLICE OFFICER IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,184 PAID TO LIBERTY PERSONAL INSURANCE COMPANY FOR SARAH EEK BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY.ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 78 WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM? UH, 78.
SO MOVED BY COUNCILMAN MO, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM.
[79. 23-00327]
ITEM 79 AUTHORIZED SETTLEMENT OF THE CLAIMANT'S JEANIE LOK FOR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM A SEWER BACKUP IN THE CLAIMANT'S HOME FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $14,519 81 CENTS BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY.IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 79? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MCMAN, SEGMENT BY COUNCIL MEMBER MO.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM 79 HAS BEEN
[80. 23-00315]
APPROVED.ITEM 80 AUTHORIZING A SETTLEMENT, THE CLAIM OF KIMBERLY CARTER FOR DAMAGE RESULTING FROM A SEWER BACKUP IN THE CLAIMANT'S HOME FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $16,306 TO 5 CENTS BY PARISH ATTORNEYS.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 80 COUNCIL MEMBERS? SO MOVED BY NOEL, SECONDED BY ADAMS. ANY OBJECTIONS? 80
[81. 23-00328]
HAS BEEN APPROVED AUTHORIZING OF 81 AUTHORIZING ED A SETTLEMENT IN THE CLAIM OF JOYCE CHANNEY FOR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM A SEWER BACKUP IN THE CLAIMANT'S HOME FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $40,176 AND 9 CENTS BY PARISH ATTORNEY.SO MOVED BY MO, SECONDED BY COLEMAN.
[82. 23-00329]
HAS BEEN APPROVED 82 AUTHORIZING A SETTLEMENT TO CLAIMANT CANERA JACKSON FOR DAMAGE RESULTING FROM A SEWER BACKUP AND CLAIMANT'S HOME FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $34,631 AND 86 CENTS.IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR 82 BACK TO COUNCIL? SO MOVED BY ADAM, SECONDED BY COLVIN.
[83. 23-00330]
APPROVED.AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESIDENT TO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY WELLNESS INTERVENTION AND AMOUNT OF $90,000 TO ADMINISTER AN APPRO AND OPERATE COMMUNITY-BASED VIOLENCE INTERVENTION.
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO ADVANCE THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AND CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICE FROM AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DEDICATED TO COMBATING COMMUNITY VIOLENCE BY MAYOR'S OFFICE.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER'S? MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLMAN 83 HAS BEEN
[84. 23-00331]
APPROVED.ITEM 84 AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT INSTITUTE OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE BROAD INNOVATION MARKETING FIRM IN THE AMOUNT OF 75,000 TO ADMINISTER AND OPERATE COMMUNITY BASED ENGAGEMENT IN PUBLIC MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT FUNDED THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE A PLAN ACT DEDICATED TO COMBATING COMMUNITY VIOLENCE.
AND ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
SO MOVED BY COUNCILMAN MC COLEMAN.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURST.
[85. 23-00332]
APPROVED.AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT TO INSTITUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH JAZZY SOLUTIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000 TO OPERATE AS A DIRECTOR OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE PROGRAMS FOR SAFE HOPE AND HEALTH.
BR COMMUNITY-BASED VIOLENCE INTERVENTION INITIATIVE FUNDING FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, DEDICATED TO COM COMBATING COMMUNITY VIOLENCE.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERS.
[86. 23-00333]
APPROVED WITH ITEM 86, AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT.YOU COULD ENTER INTO A COOPERATIVE ENDEAVORING AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF LOUISIANA FOR THE STATE AND PROVIDE FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF 225,000 FOR EDUCATION, TUTORING, OUTREACH, FUNCTION, AND FOOD ACCESS IN LOW SOCIOECONOMIC AREAS OF EAST BARRON PARISH.
FUNDING PROVIDED BY ACT ONE 70 OF THE 2022 REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
APPROPRIATING THE FUNDS FOR SET PURPOSE AND AUTHORIZED AND EXECUTION OF ALL DOCUMENT CONNECTION THERE WITH BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 86? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER POMAN.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ANY
[87. 23-00334]
OBJECTIONS? WE MOVE NOW TO 87.AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT TO ENTER INTO A COOPERATIVE ENDEAVOR AGREEMENT WITH MAYOR'S HEALTHY CITY INITIATIVE AND THE AMOUNT OF
[01:40:01]
225,000 FOR EDUCATION, TUTORING, OUTREACH, FUNCTION AND FOOD ACCESS IN LOW SOCIOECONOMIC AREAS IN EASTFUNDED FROM THE STATE OF STATE ACT ONE 70 OF THE 2022 REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION BY MAYOR'S OFFICE.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM BY COM? SECONDED BY ADAMS. ANY OBJECTIONS?
[88. 23-00335]
WE NOW GO TO 88.ENTER INTO A SUB-RECIPIENT AGREEMENT WITH BIG BUDDY IN THE AMOUNT OF 200,000 TO ADMINISTER, OPERATING AND COORDINATE PARTNERSHIPS TO SAFE, HOPEFUL AND HEALTHY CLASSROOM AT FIVE AREA HIGH SCHOOLS IDENTIFIED DUE THE PROXIMITY OF HIGH RISK OF VIOLENCE FUNDED BY THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT DEDICATED TO COMBATING VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MCMAN.
[89. 23-00336]
MEMBER ADAMS. WE GO TO 89 AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR PRESENT TO A SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT WITH THE WAR GUN FOUNDATION AMOUNT OF 215,000 TO FACILITATE THEIR INNOVATIVE TRAUMA INFORMED CURRICULUM.BETTY'S HOPE IN PARTNERSHIPS WITH SAFE HOPE IN THE HEALTHY CLASSROOM AT FIVE AREA HIGH SCHOOLS IDENTIFIED DUE TO PROXIMITY OF HIGH RISK VIOLENCE FUNDED IN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT DEDICATED TO COMBATING COMMUNITY VIOLENCE.
ANYONE HERE WRITTEN TO SPEAK ON ITEM 89? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS.
UM, SOMEBODY FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
COURTNEY, I HAD SENT AN EMAIL, UM, ASKING HOW DOES THE, UM, HOW, HOW DOES IT DETERMINE WHETHER SOMETHING IS SOMEONE IS A, A SUB-RECIPIENT? YES MA'AM.
OR A WHAT ARE THE, WHAT WERE THE OTHER TWO? SUB-RECIPIENT CEA OR A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT? DID ANYONE EVER RESPOND TO THAT? YES MA'AM.
I NEED TO READ CHECK THE EMAIL TO MAKE SURE.
SO FOR THE CEA, THE CEAS ARE NOT CONNECTED TO ANY OF THE ARPA FUNDING THAT'S BEEN LISTED.
THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE STATE OF LOUISIANA ACT ONE 70 OF THE 2022 REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
SO THAT'S A COOPERATIVE ENDEAVOR AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE.
THE SUB-RECIPIENT AGREEMENTS FOR HEALTHY I'M, WELL THE SUB-RECIPIENTS, EXCUSE ME FOR A R P ARE USED FOR PEOPLE WHO ADMINISTER SUB AWARDS OR BASICALLY CARRY OUT A PROGRAM OR PROJECT FOR THE STATE.
A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT ON THE OTHER HAND ARE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES PROVIDED BY A CONTRACTOR.
TO MONITOR THE SUB RECIPIENT, OBTAIN GOOD SERVICES FOR THE NON-FEDERAL ENTITIES OWN USE OR CREATES, UH, A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO, UM, ANY SIMILAR SERVICES.
SO BASICALLY OPERATIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE FOR PSA AND SUBRECIPIENTS ARE PROGRAM PROVIDERS THAT ARE SERVICES ARE GOODS TO COMPLETE A CAUSE.
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE, FOR INSTANCE, UM, THE, THE LAST ONE WITH THE SERVICES? WHAT WAS THAT ONE? THE LAST ONE YOU READ THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT.
TYPICALLY THOSE ARE, UM, FOR-PROFIT.
TYPICALLY IT MAY BE A NON-PROFIT IF THE NON-PROFIT IS OPERATING AS AN ADMINISTRATOR OR A SERVICE IN ORDER TO, UM, OPERATE DAY TO DAY IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
A SUBRECIPIENT IS A PROGRAM OR INITIATIVE WITH MEASURABLE GOALS AND OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT IN.
WHAT ABOUT A BENEFICIARY? I DO NOT HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
THAT HAS AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE.
UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS ALSO, UM, AN OPERA RELATIONSHIP.
AND SO FOR THE THIRD ONE, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
I'M ONLY FAMILIAR WITH MY PROGRAMMING FOR SUB-RECIPIENTS.
OR FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE THAT I'VE HAD TO DO TO DATE.
SO WITH THE WORK WE ON THE WORK DONE, YES WE ARE.
SO YOU MENTIONED THE FIVE AREA HIGH SCHOOLS.
AND JUST, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE DEALING WITH THEM, UM, WHAT HIGH SCHOOLS ARE THEY CUR? ARE THEY CURRENTLY IN ANY OF THE SCHOOLS NOW? THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN SCHOOLS THROUGH A CITY PARTNERSHIP.
I CANNOT SPEAK TO IF THEY'RE IN ANY SCHOOLS WITH EBR R SCHOOL SYSTEM OR CHARTERS.
UM, WHEN I PRESENTED THE INFORMATION TO MANY OF YOU, I SHARED THERE'S A LIST OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND AREAS THAT ARE WORKING.
SO THOSE FIVE AREAS SCHOOLS ARE MCKINLEY, ESMA, GLEN OAKS CAPITAL AND SCOTLANDVILLE.
SO IN WORKING WITH WAR DUN ON BETTY'S HOPE, HIS PRO, HIS UM, FOUNDATION AND THE GOALS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH VIOLENCE.
SO I WAS WONDERING HOW ARE WE CONNECTING SAFE HOPE AND HEALTHY CLASSROOMS?
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AND IS HE AWARE OF THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE DID THAT, WHEN WE WORKED HIS PROGRAM AT SOUTHERN, I MEAN AT ESTRO, AND ONE OF THE REASONS HE, UM, I I ACTUALLY INTRODUCED HIM TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LACK OF FIDELITY AS IT RELATES TO THE ONLY THING THAT HE CARES ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO BETTY'S HOPE AS A RESULT OF HIS MOTHER PASSING.AND THAT IS THE GRIEF OF CHILDREN WHO, UM, ARE BASICALLY FACED WITH, AND I SEE IT EVERY DAY, UM, A MURDER OR FAMILY LOSS MEMBER DYING MM-HMM.
I I KNOW PERSONALLY THAT THAT IS HIS MISSION.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO, AND WHEN I READ THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT MIRRORED THE PROGRAM THAT I KNOW HE'S ACTUALLY STOPPED HAVING PROGRAMMING AND PARTNERSHIPS ON A NATIONAL LEVEL BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DEAL WITH THE GRIEF.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WORKED WITH BETTY'S HOPE, UM, THROUGH RECOMMENDATION OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
I'M AWARE THAT YOU WORK IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND YOU SHARED, YOU SHARED THAT TO THE OFFICE AS WELL.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING PRO BONO IN SESSIONS WITH COMMUNITY WELLNESS VENTURES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PARTNER THAT YOU JUST APPROVED TO SCALE THIS PROGRAM TO FIT THE NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS.
SO THEY'VE BEEN MEETING REGULARLY WITH HEALTHCARE CENTERS AND SCHOOLS.
SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO OPERATE.
SO IF THEY DON'T PASS, THEN WE WON'T DO IT.
BUT IF IT DOES PASS, WE HAVE SET UP A CURRICULUM THAT'S ACTUALLY IN YOUR EMAIL.
I'M ASKING JESSICA TO CHECK THE DATE THAT WE SENT THAT TO YOU.
AND I CAN FOLLOW BACK THROUGH THAT.
BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE, AND WITH THE PARTNERS IN HEALTHCARE CENTERS AND SCHOOLS, WHICH HAS SOCIAL WORKERS AND CLINICIANS, THEY FEEL LIKE BASED UPON THE GAPS AND NEEDS THAT THE STUDENTS HAVE DISPLAYED THOSE PROGRAMMINGS DOES MATCH.
THAT'S, I'M TELLING YOU THAT'S NOT WHAT HIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT.
HE SCALED THE PROGRAM TO MATCH WHAT WE NEED.
WHEN THE LAST TIME YOU TALKED TO MARK, UM, MAYBE LAST WEEK, SO THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROGRAM, I MEAN, AND SURE, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M JUST OFFERING THE ANSWER TO YOU RIGHT.
THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM ON, AND I CAN PULL THE INFORMATION AND EMAIL IT BACK TO YOU ALL TO SHOW THE WEEKLY PIECES.
I I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M GIVING YOU EYE CONTACT, WHICH IS WHY I'M NOT STOPPING.
BUT TO PULL THAT INFORMATION UP, IT HAS WEEKLY ASSESSMENTS TO THOSE PIECES.
AND JESSICA OR MS. GAY, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE WEEKLY ASSESSMENTS THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT BETTY'S HOPE IS ABOUT.
SO I THINK WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU IS I'M NOT HIRING BETTY'S HOPE AS THEY STAND.
WE ASK BETTY'S HOPE TO WORK WITH US AND DEVELOP PROGRAMMINGS THAT MEET THE NEED, ALMOST LIKE A CUSTOMIZED MENU OF SERVICES.
HERE ARE THE NEEDS AND GAPS THAT OUR STUDENTS AT THESE FIVE SCHOOLS ARE EXPERIENCING.
GIVE ME A LESSON OR CURRICULUM THAT MARRIES THAT.
I'LL EMAIL YOU THE INFORMATION BACK FOR YOU.
BE ABLE TO SEE WHY WAS BETTY'S HOPE THERE ARE SO MANY, UM, PROGRAM AND NONPROFITS THAT ARE IN OUR SCHOOLS.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE LOUISIANA SPIRIT DOES WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THEY ARE DOING WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
YOU UH, BIG BUDDY DOESN'T HAVE CLINICIANS.
I'M SAYING THEY ARE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES HOLISTICALLY.
29 11 IS IN OUR SCHOOL, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY ARE WE GOING TO, TO MAKE A PROGRAM THAT IS NOT DESIGNED TO DO WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO WHEN THEY'RE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY DOING, BUT YOU REALLY WANT 'EM TO DO.
I'M HAPPY THAT YOU BROUGHT UP 29 11, FOR EXAMPLE.
THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET OFF THE SUBJECT.
HUNTER WITH THE FAMILY ADVOCATE INITIATIVE MM-HMM.
WHY DID WE HAVE TO REMANUFACTURE AND REIMAGINE BETTY'S HOPE WHEN THAT IS NOT THEIR MAIN GOALS? AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO I'M SORRY THAT YOU FEEL THAT WAY.
IT'S, I'M I'M ANSWERING THAT'S THE WORD YOU SAID.
YOU SAID WE HAD TO, WE ARE RE-IMAGINING, WE ARE RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE I THINK THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE SHARED TO ME PRIMARILY YOU AS WELL THAT, THAT IT DOESN'T, I'M TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IF YOU LET ME I KNOW, BUT I JUST NEED YOU TO LIKE REALLY, REALLY DEAL JUST WITH, WE CUSTOMIZE SOLUTIONS FOR THE NEEDS THAT FIT EVERY DAY.
IF SOMEONE DIES YESTERDAY, WE ANSWER THE NEED THAT THAT PERSON NEEDS THAT DAY.
AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS SPECIFICALLY DIFFERENT.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, YOU SAID THAT WE CHANGE, WE DIDN'T HIRE BETTY'S HOPE TO DO THE WORK THAT BETTY'S HOPE DID.
WE HAVEN'T HIRED BETTY'S HOPE YET.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SUCCESSFUL BUDDY.
SO YOU SAID WE ARE USING, WE ARE USING THEM,
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BUT WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.WHAT UM, I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S YOUR INTERPRETATION.
UM, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO COMPLETE THE THOUGHT, I MAY BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WE WORKED WITH A PARTNER THAT WAS REFERRED TO US FROM EAST BAN ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL SYSTEM.
MANY OF THE PARTNERS THAT YOU NAME, ONE OF WHICH JUST GOT APPROVED TODAY.
WHAT IS THE PARTNERSHIP THAT, THAT'S THE BETTY'S HOPE THAT THAT JUST GOT APPROVED.
YEAH, YOU MENTIONED BIG BUDDY AND THAT THEY OFFER THOSE SERVICES.
BIG BUDDY, EVEN IN THE SAFE, HOPEFUL CLASSROOM CANNOT MEET THE INDIVIDUAL NEED OF A STUDENT THAT HAS EXPERIENCED TRAUMA.
THEY CAN PERSONALLY DEVELOP THEM.
THEY CAN PROFESSIONALLY DEVELOP THEM TO GO TO WORK.
SO OUR CARE EYECARE ALSO IS DOING THAT EVERY DAY.
AND THAT'S THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A TAX CREDIT THEY'VE REACHED OUT SAYING THEY CAN'T MEET, THEY CAN'T GET WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFERS ABOUT, WE ACTUALLY MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK.
I DID TELL THEM WHO TO CALL, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A CALL THAT CAME TO ME.
THEY'RE DOING THIS, THEY'RE DOING SUICIDE PREVENTION.
THEY'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, OVERDOSES AND DRUGS.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
IT'S JUST LIKE, TO ME, THERE ARE PRO, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN PLACE ALREADY THAT ARE DOING, THAT ARE DOING THIS WORK ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE KEEP THROWING AWAY MONEY AND TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN CONTROL THE, THE REPORTING AND THE DATA.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHY WE ARE SCATTERED IN MEETING THESE NEEDS AND THAT'S WHY NOTHING REALLY, REALLY WORKS BECAUSE THEY ARE PE THEY'RE, AND WHEN YOU DEALING WITH STUDENTS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP.
I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE ARE TAKING 90 MINUTES OUT OF THE SCHOOL DAY TO DO THESE PROGRAMS. WHEN MOST OF THE CHILDREN THAT ARE DEALING WITH THESE PROGRAMS ARE TWO AND THREE YEARS BEHIND AND THEY'RE FAILING.
WE SHOULD NEVER EVER INTERRUPT A SCHOOL DAY AND TO DO THESE KIND OF PROGRAM.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT MAKING THOSE CHANGES.
AND YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, BUT YOU, YOU SHOULD NOT EVER DO THAT.
THESE KIDS NEED TO BE IN SCHOOL LEARNING AND GETTING THEIR, ESPECIALLY THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TARGETING.
AND I'VE, THAT'S WHY I'VE ASKED YOU ABOUT DATA, ABOUT CARNEGIE UNITS, ABOUT WHAT IS THE FAILURE RACE, WHAT IS THE ATTENDANCE, WHAT IS THE BEHAVIOR? BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT WORK AND IT'S WASTING $215,000 ON PROGRAMMING THAT DOES NOT WORK.
AND EVERYBODY IS GONE ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH IT.
I I I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOT APPROVE THIS.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE DAY-TO-DAY AND THAT'S FINE.
BUT, UH, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT.
THERE IS A MOTION TO NOT APPROVE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR MOTION TO DELETE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DELETE.
THERE'S A MOTION TO DELETE ITEM 89.
IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND TO DELETE? ITEM 89 MOTION FILLS AS A LACK FOR LACK OF SECOND.
SO THIS PERTAINS TO THIS ITEM AND A FEW OTHERS AND I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPENSATION PORTION, SO ARE THEY ALREADY OPERATING, IS THIS ALREADY UNDERWAY? WHICH PROGRAM FLOOR DONE ALREADY IN THE SCHOOLS DOING THIS AT THIS MOMENT, I CANNOT SPEAK TO ANY SCHOOLS OUTSIDE OF THE FIVE.
BUT FOR THOSE FIVE SCHOOLS, THEY ARE NOT, THEY ARE OPERATING THE PROGRAMS IN OTHER PLACES.
THE SUPERINTENDENT REACHED OUT TO US AND SPECIFICALLY, UH, SHARED HIS IDEALS AND THOUGHTS WITH REFERRALS FROM HIS MTSS DEPARTMENTS AND HIS EYECARE SYSTEM THAT THEY NEEDED SOME REFERRING SYSTEMS. OKAY.
UM, SO, AND THE REASON I ASK THAT, SO THIS WHAT WE'RE APPROVING SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE, THE SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT SPECIFICALLY LAYS OUT THE PAY STRUCTURE AND IT'S, AND AND IT SAYS IT'S TO BEGIN JANUARY 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST.
AND IT, AND IT HAS A MONTHLY PAY.
AND THEN IT SAYS THE INVOICES MUST INCLUDE APPROPRIATE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, THE TIME SHEETS, THE MONTHLY PROGRESS REPORTS.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY IN THE SCHOOLS AND THIS AGREEMENT HAS JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND MARCH, SHOULDN'T THIS BE, AND AND, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE, BUT ACTUALLY SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WE'VE LOOKED AT, SHOULD THEY BE AMENDED TO SAY APRIL 1ST TO APRIL 1ST AND THEY WILL BE, WE, WE SHARE THE AGREEMENTS WITH YOU ALL FOR CONTRACT YEARS THAT ARE SET UP AND WE DRAFT THESE WHEN WE'RE SETTING UP THE PROGRAM.
ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED, WE AMEND THE
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YEAR TO GO TO 12 CALENDAR MONTHS THAT ARE ABLE TO BE APPROVED.SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO SEND THEM BACK TO YOU BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY EXECUTED, WE WILL.
BUT THEY WILL ESSENTIALLY SAY FROM APRIL 1ST UNTIL MARCH 30TH OR 31ST IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO IS THAT A PROBLEMATIC BASED ON HOW WE'RE APPROVING IT, WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT SHOULD, I'D HAVE TO DEFER, UM, TO SOMEONE IN EITHER FINANCE OR MAYBE ASHLEY CAN ANSWER THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WE MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS BASED UPON WHERE THEY ARE.
IT'S MORE ABOUT THE SCOPE AND, AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
I SURE THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT, UH, IN A LIABLE SITUATION OR, OR VIOLATING SOMETHING BY MOVING FORWARD.
WHEN, WHEN IT'S, IT, IT, WE WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO COMPLY IF THEY'RE NOT THERE YET.
ALSO, I WILL SHARE THAT, UM, SOME OF THESE FOLKS HAVE ACTUALLY RENDERED SERVICE KNOWING THAT IT MAY NOT BE APPROVED.
SO SOMETIMES AN OPPORTUNITY, THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
THEY HAVE NOT ENGAGED, THIS WILL BE THEIR FIRST YEAR.
IT IS BY REQUEST OF THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
UM, WE WORK WITH THOSE SCHOOLS YEAR ROUND.
THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR GOING IN AND THEY'VE EXPRESSED SOME SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT THEY'VE WORKED WITH WITH THESE STUDENTS.
EACH ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS HAS HAD A STUDENT THAT HAS PASSED AWAY.
EACH ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, HAVE HAD A PERSON THAT HAS HAD VICTIMS IN THEIR FAMILY AND THERE'S A LEVEL OF SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL.
SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE IN SCHOOL TODAY, ON WEEKENDS, DURING THE SUMMER WHEN THESE OTHER AGENCIES ARE NO LONGER IN SCHOOL, WE KNOW SCHOOL SYSTEMS HAVE DIFFERENT TIMELINES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO WORK, THEY CAN GO OUTSIDE THE HOME.
THEY ALSO WORK IN CONNECTION WITH ICARE WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE SUPPORTS.
AND SO THAT, THAT HELPS ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
ASHLEY, DO YOU SEE AN ISSUE ON SHOULD WE AMEND THE WAY WE APPROVE THESE TO REFLECT THAT? TALKING ABOUT THE YEARLY IN TERMS OF THE DATE? MM-HMM.
UM, I THINK WHEN THE, UM, UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING JUST PATENTLY INCORRECT, UM, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A SHIFT MADE BECAUSE OF WHEN AN ITEM IS APPROVED OR THE ACTUAL START DATE OF THE GRAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SUBSTANTIVE.
AND I THINK, UM, ANYTIME WE DEEM THAT A CHANGE FROM WHAT IS POSTED WITH THE AGENDA ITEM OR WHAT'S WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM SAYS, UM, IF WE DEEM THAT THAT IS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE, WE WOULD SAY SOMETHING NEEDS TO COME BACK.
ANOTHER THING TO ADD TO THAT TOO, THAT AS I'M READING THIS, UM, MOST OF THESE ALSO SAY A SUM NOT TO EXCEED.
SO WHILE IT IS PLANNED FOR A CALENDAR YEAR AS WE CONTINUE TO DO METRICS, WE HAVE SOME GREAT DEPARTMENTS HERE THAT MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE PUTTING IN OUR BILLING, WE ALSO HAVE TO TURN IN A REPORT.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE FOLKS HAVE TO TURN IN A MONTHLY REPORT WITH THEIR WORK.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A MONTH THAT THEY DID NOT DO WORK, THEY DON'T RECEIVE THAT.
WE HAVE SOME CONTRACTS WHERE THERE'S MONEY THAT HAS BEEN LEFT OVER AND IT GETS ALLOCATED BACK TO SOMETHING ELSE OR GOES INTO A SECOND YEAR AS WELL.
HEY, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK Y'ALL FOR SPEAKING.
I WATCHED, UM, ON THE WEBEX, SO THANK YOU JAS FOR PUTTING THAT ON.
UM, AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE, BEFORE I KNEW WHO THE MEMBERS WERE CUZ IT WAS BUSINESS NAMES.
I WAY BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING, WE DISCUSSED WHAT ARE THE METRICS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
UM, I, WE HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE EARLIER TODAY WITH MATTHEW FORTON, BARRETT'S PARENTS, WHERE A 17 YEAR OLD, UH, MURDERED AN 11 YEAR OLD IN MY DISTRICT.
SO WHEN I CHALLENGE, UH, SAFE, HOPEFUL NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S JUST ABOUT HOW DO WE EFFECTIVELY MEASURE THE SUCCESS AND EFFICACY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT AND I ASK THAT YOU SEND US TO COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THAT FOR EVERY AGENCY THAT YOU USE, BETTY HOPES, WHATEVER, WHAT'LL SATISFY EVERYBODY IS SEND THE GOALS FOR EACH GROUP, SEND THEM METRICS THAT YOU PLAN TO USE TO MEASURE EACH GROUP.
UM, AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS SHOW WHERE WHAT THEY'VE DONE, HOW THEY'VE DONE IT, AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S GONNA HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN LET ME TELL YOU, THE GOAL IS NOT TO SAY THAT OPERATORS ARE NOT GOOD OPERATORS.
IT'S JUST TO SAY AS YOU GO ALONG IN THE PROCESS, IF SOMETHING IS NOT YIELDING THE RESULTS THAT YOU EXPECT, HOW DO WE PIVOT FROM THAT AND LEARN FROM THOSE, UH, UM, THE, THE LACK OF MEETING THAT PARTICULAR GOAL TO TWEAK IT? CUZ IF YOU DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND, AND THE RESULTS AREN'T CHANGING, THEN WE'RE WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
BUT THROUGHOUT THEIR PROCESS, I JUST ASK YOU TO KEEP US UP WITH THE METRICS ON CRIME PREVENTION.
NOT, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE STATS.
I WANT TO HEAR INDIVIDUAL OPERATORS
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WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHAT WERE THEIR GOALS.AND IF YOU SET US THE GOALS AHEAD OF TIME, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO HOLD THOSE OPERATORS ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL FOR WHAT THEY DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AS LESS AMOUNT OF CRIME AS POSSIBLE.
AND I WILL TALK PUBLICLY ABOUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE IN THE MEETING IS, UM, WE ARE 23% LESS IN TERMS OF CRIME, RIGHT? BUT WHAT, WHAT GOES UP DURING HURRICANES ARE BIRTHS CRIME.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT LOWERS IS WORKFORCE, RIGHT? UH, IF YOU LOOK AT DISASTERS, THE WORKFORCE THAT GOES UP IS TYPICALLY RELATED TO THAT DISASTER IN COVID.
PEOPLE WERE AT HOME, TRASH WENT UP, BIRTHS WENT UP, CRIME WENT UP, WORKFORCE WENT DOWN.
SO HOW DOES THE INCREASE IN WORKFORCE NOW THAT WE'RE STABILIZING ACTUALLY DIRECTLY CORRELATE WITH THE REDUCTION IN CRIME FOR THE NUMBERS THAT YOU PRESENT? AND I DON'T, NOT CHALLENGING THE NUMBERS WHATSOEVER, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT WE'RE STILL EITHER 14 OR 18% HIGHER THEN WE WERE PRE COVID.
SO WHILE THE NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN, WE'RE STILL HIGHER THAN WE WERE IN 2019, WHICH IS MORE OF A DIRECT, UM, EVALUATION FROM WHERE WE WERE, UH, IN A STABLE ENVIRONMENT TO WHERE WE ARE AND, AND, AND NOW WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER A STABLE ENVIRONMENT.
AND THAT'S WHY THOSE METRICS ARE SO IMPORTANT.
SO, AND I ASKED FOR A REPORT OF, UH, FOR THE WORKFORCE, AND I STILL WANT THAT FROM YOU GUYS, OF AS WORKFORCE WENT UP AND PEOPLE WERE NOT BORED AT HOME ANYMORE, HOW DID IT HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT? AND WE HAVE BRACK WHO'S A GREAT RESOURCE FOR THAT.
WE HAVE EMPLOYED PR THAT DEALS WITH NOTHING BUT EMPLOYMENT.
SO I STILL WANT THOSE NUMBERS FROM ME.
THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
WE DO HAVE AN OBJECTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS? ITEM 89 HAS BEEN APPROVED.
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WE GO TO ITEM 90, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT, AND CHAIRMAN OF THE AIRPORT COMMISSION.NEXT YOU TO SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER ONE WITH STEVE BALDON ASSOCIATES TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ORGANIZATIONAL ASSESSMENT AND COMPENSATION REVIEW AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,693 BY THE AVIATION DIRECTOR.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 90? MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN MADONE.
SECONDED BY THE CHAIR OF THE OBJECTIONS.
[Items 91 - 103 & 105 - 109]
BEEN APPROVED.WE'RE NOT GONNA ADJUDICATE PROPERTIES.
CAN I TAKE 'EM ALL TOGETHER? WE'RE GONNA TAKE 90.
I KNOW AARON MO WOULD LIKE ME TO TAKE 'EM ALL TOGETHER.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE 91 THROUGH 1 0 9 LOT TWO PLUS AND 46 SQUARE THREE, UH, HIGH BIDDER.
HIGH BIDDER ROLLING BATIS $3,100.
ITEM 92 LOT 84 A, UH, DISTRICT TWO HIGH BIDDER.
CHRISTOPHER REYNOLDS, $20,000 93 LOT 18 HIGH, UH, APPLICANT.
REBECCA GERALD, APRIL MORRIS, DISTRICT SEVEN, HIGH BIDDER.
ITEM 94 LOT 17 POINT SQUARE 3 24.
CEDRIC FORD AND DAISY R BURNS $100.
DISTRICT 12 HIGH BIDDER PLACE PROFITS, LLC, $100,100.
ITEM 96 LOT C FOUR SUBDIVISION DIGS.
TRACK DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN HIGH BIDDER.
ITEM 97, LOT 21 SUBDIVISION VILLAGE, PROVIDENCE TO PROVINCE.
DISTRICT EIGHT, HIGH BIDDER INNOVATIVE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, LLC, $40,100.
ITEM 98 LOT 16 A SQUARE SEVEN.
DISTRICT TWO, HIGH BIDDER, TURNKEY, LLC, $500.
DISTRICT TWO HIGH BIDDER, TURNKEY, LLC, $500 ITEM 100 LOT 20 SQUARE K, DISTRICT SEVEN HIGH BIDDER.
ITEM 1 0 1 LOT 68 PLUS SQUARE TWO.
DISTRICT SEVEN HIGH OF WILLIAM JEREMIAH ALEXANDER, $8,000 1 0 2 LOT, 14 POINT AND 15 POINT SQUARE 12 HIGH BIDDER.
JAMES ALLEN, $500 DISTRICT TEN ONE OH THREE LOT 24 PLUS SQUARE 17.
DISTRICT TWO HIGH BIDDER NIKIA WHITE $5,000 ITEM 1 0 4, 33 SQUARE 18, LOT 10 HIGH BIDDER.
JONATHAN DILLON, $500 1 0 5 LOT 90 DISTRICT 12 HIGH BIDDER.
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LOT NINE DISTRICT 10 HIGH BIDDER, BRIGHT BEGINNINGS, $4,000 1 0 7 LOT SIX POINT SQUARE 2 6 6 DISTRICT 10 HIGH BIDDER, BRIGHT BEGINNINGS.$13,000 1 0 8 LOT 19 SQUARE 19.
THE ORCHARD GROUP INCORPORATED F $5,600 LOT 1 0 9, EXCUSE ME.
DISTRICT TWO HIGH, BETTER CON KENARD D MONROE, $2,500.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 91 THROUGH 1 0 9? COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN? YES, SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THOSE, UH, UNTIL I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT TO SEE WHAT THEIR PLAN IS.
HOW LONG, HOW LONG COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, FOR UM, 30 DAYS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON 1 0 7 THERE.
AND SO I SEE BRIGHT BEGINNINGS DEVELOPMENT THERE AND A DIFFERENT NAME AND I SEE 1 0 6 BRIGHT BEGINNING DEVELOPMENT.
SO SOMEBODY EXPLAINED THAT TO ME.
IS THAT A TYPO OR HELP ME PLEASE.
I DON'T THINK I SEE THE, WHAT'S THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
OR MY QUESTION IS FOR, SEE WHEN I LOOK AT ONE, OH, ALRIGHT, WHEN I LOOK AT 1 0 6, IT SAYS, BRIGHT BEGINNINGS WAS THE HIGHEST BIDDER CORRECT.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT 1 0 7 BRIGHT BEGINNING REDEVELOPMENT THERE AND A DIFFERENT NAME IS THERE FOR THE APPLICANT.
IS THAT A TYPO? I DON'T WANNA MISS NO.
THAT ON THAT PARTICULAR FILE, THAT PERSON OPENED THE FILE.
AND THEN BRIGHT BEGINNINGS WAS THE EVENTUAL HIGH BIDDER.
SO 1 0 7, THE APPLICANT WAS NOT DYLAN, IT WAS THAT PERSON.
BUT WE, WE ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE THAT OPENS THE FILE AND THEN HE OR SHE MAY OR NOT, MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE EVENTUAL HIGH BIDDER, BUT WE ALWAYS SHOW WHO OPENED THE FILE AND THEN WE SHOW WHO THE HIGH BIDDER WAS.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT ARROW IN HERE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING IN 10, ASHLEY, ANYTHING IN 10.
AND MR. UH, JONATHAN DILLON IS THE APPLICANT OR THE CONNECTED TO THIS, THAT THIS, NOT THAT THEY GET 30 DAYS.
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT HIS PLAN IS, WHAT HE'S DOING, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM HIM.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE 1 0 4, 1 0 6 AND 1 0 8.
YOU STILL WANT THAT FOR 30 DAYS? COUNCIL MEMBER? THAT'S THE 30 DAYS.
WHAT'S THAT? WHICH ONE? ITEM 1 0 6 IS NOT JONATHAN DILLON.
YOU WANT HIM? I NEED SOME EXPLANATION.
WHEN I LOOK AT 1 0 6, I SEE THE APPLICANT, JONATHAN DILLON, BUT HE WASN'T THE HIGH BIDDER.
SO THE HIGH BIDDER WAS BRIGHT BEGINNING.
SO THAT'S WHO ACTUALLY WON THE BID.
JONATHAN JUST OPENED UP THE, THE, THE ITEM TO BE LOOKED AT TO BE REVIEWED.
SO HE WASN'T THE HIGH BIDDER ON THE OTHER ONES.
HE WAS THE HIGH BIDDER ON THOSE ITEMS YOU REQUESTED.
ALL OF THOSE WHERE HE WAS THE HIGHEST BIDDER? YES, MA'AM.
THOSE ARE THE ONES I NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
SO THAT'S 1 0 4 AND THAT IS 1 0 1 0 4, 1 0 5.
COUNCIL MEMBER GOT IT ON 1 0 8.
HE WAS AGAIN THE APPLICANT, BUT THE HIGH BIDDER WAS THE ORCA GROUP.
I DON'T WANT TO GET NOBODY'S DISTRICT.
OKAY, SO THE ONLY ONE IS 1 0 4? YES, MA'AM.
ANYTHING IN TAN? THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
ANYTHING IN TAN CONVERSATION? SO THERE IS, UH, A
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MOTION TO DEFER ITEM 1 0 4.IS THERE A SECOND TO DEFER ITEM 1 0 4.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM 1 0 4 HAS BEEN DEFERRED FOR 30 DAYS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS? 1 0 1 THROUGH ONE OH THROUGH 1 0 9 WITH THE EXCEPTIONAL 1 0 4.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SOMEONE BY MO? AND AND ITEMS? 91 THROUGH 1 0 3 AND ITEMS 91.
AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER? NO.
ANY OBJECTIONS ITEMS 91 THROUGH 1 0 3 HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN ITEMS 1 0 5 THROUGH 1 0 9 HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
[ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS]
WE NOW GO TO ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS COUNCIL MEMBERS ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER.A AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESIDENT TO APPLY, ACCEPT, AND EXECUTE GRANT AGREEMENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24 DISASTER MITIGATION GRANT WITH FEMALE ADMINISTERED BY CEP AND AN AMOUNT OF $4,694,600 FOR THE SOUTH FLANNERY ROAD BRIDGE AND APPROPRIATE 1.2 MILLION FOR LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT.
THE REASON AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR GRANTS TO MEET THE TIMELINE.
THIS IS OH, ITEM B AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT TO APPLY AND ACCEPT AND EXECUTE THE GRANT AGREEMENTS FOR THE FIS.
YEAR 24, PRE-DISASTER MITIGATION GRANT FEE ADMINISTERED BY OH SEVEN IN AMOUNT OF $7,067,532 FOR THE NORTH BAYOU FOUND DETENTION AND PUMP STATION PROJECT APPROPRIATE 1.8 MILLION FOR THE LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT BY TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR ITEM C CASE 18 DASH 23 19 39, AND 1941 PAULSON STREET TO ZONE FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO TWO FAMILY ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PAULSON STREET, SOUTH OF JACKSON AVENUE BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER COLE.
JULY 34TH SQUARE NINE SUBDIVISION NORTHDALE NORTH 15TH STREET DISTRICT 10 COVIN BY PARIS ATTORNEY.
MEANING THE MOTION AWAIT THE RULES OF THE ITEMS CAN BE INTRODUCED AS THEIR MOTION TO WEIGH THE RULES.
MOTION THE WAY THE RULES ARE MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MAROSE.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION TO WEIGH THE RULES? IS THERE ANY OBJECTION ON THE MOTION TO WEIGH THE RULES? IS THERE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE ALL ITEMS? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MAROSE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ALL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED.
[110. 23-00419 ATCHAFALAYA TRACE COMMISSION]
WE NOW GO TO APPOINTMENTS.THEIER TRACE COMMISSION CONSIDERATION OF FULFILLING THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF CHRISTINE DE MYERS, WHO RESIGNED THIS TERM WILL EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2023.
OUR CURRENT BALLOT IS HILLARY COLLINS AND AMANDA TAKA.
THIS IS, UH, EITHER ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HERE TONIGHT.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 10? WE NOW GO TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPOINT ONE OF THESE LADIES? WHAT'S WHO? HILLARY COLLINS.
IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER.
MOST SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ANY OBJECTIONS? CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU WANNA NOMINATE THE OTHER ONE? AMEND TO COX.
WE'RE GONNA VOTE IN THE ORDER.
IF YOU ARE NOT VOTING FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO VOTE AT ALL.
WE'RE GONNA VOTE FIRST FOR HILLARY COLLIS.
HILLARY COLLEGE MACHINES ARE OPEN FOR HILLARY CALLIS.
WE'RE GOING LET'S GO ONE MORE TIME.
HILLARY COLLIS MACHINES ARE OPEN FOR HILLARY COLLIS.
[111. 23-00420 BOARD OF APPEALS]
BOARD OF APPEALS.CONCURRENT WITH THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATION TO REPLACE DARIUS BONTON WHO DECLINED REAPPOINTMENT.
CURRENT BALLOT IS FRITZ EMBAR.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? IS MR. EMBAR HERE? HE'S NOT HERE.
WHEN I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO A FULL FRITZ? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM, OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HURT.
[112. 23-00421 BOARD OF APPEALS]
ITEM ONE 12 BOARD OF APPEALS CONCURRENT WITH THE MAYOR.PRESIDENT'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPEAL AN UNEXPIRED, THE UNINSPIRED TERM OF BRANDON O' WILLIAMS WHO RESIGNED.
THIS TERM EXPIRES ON JUNE 30TH, 2025.
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CURRENT BALLOT IS MICHAEL LEBOS.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE SOME MOVE BY COUNCILMAN MADAM? SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURST? CONGRATULATIONS MR. LEBOS.
[Items 113 & 114]
WE NOW GO TO CHANGE ORDERS.VIBRATION ANALYSIS FOR VARIOUS AUS CITY OF BATON ROUGE CONTRACTOR, FAILURE PREVENTION ASSOCIATES, LLC.
CHANGE ORDER AMOUNT, $45,565 AND 8 CENTS.
ITEM ONE 14 EAST BEWI PARISH FIRST RESPONDER SAFE ROOM TRAINING CENTER, CONTRACTED DU MY CONSTRUCTION LLC CHANGE ORDER AMOUNT, $98,313.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 13 AND ONE 14? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS? ONE 13 AND 14.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MO SECONDED BY THE CHAIR.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEMS ONE 13 AND ONE 14 HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
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FINAL ACCEPTANCES SALES TAX, STREET ROAD REHABILITATION PROGRAM, PROJECT 18 DASH TWO, TIGER BEND AND STREETS IN OAK HILL, PLACE PARK AND SHADOW SUBDIVISION MTRA $2,000,879 120, EXCUSE ME, $2,879,125 AND 75 CENTS.ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 15? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
DID ONE OF Y'ALL WANNA SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? Y'ALL DO? UM, UH, LISA WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? UM, AGAIN, I'M BEFORE YOU AND, UH, THE COMMITTEE MET AGAIN BASED ON YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, AND WE AGAIN, ASK THAT THIS ITEM BE DELETED SO THAT WE CAN CANCEL THE BID AND REISSUE IT.
YOU WANNA SPEAK ON ITEM? MA'AM, COME ON DOWN.
COUNSEL, MY NAME IS BARBARA IRWIN.
I REPRESENT RJ DAYL, MY ASSOCIATE ASHLEY TATA WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING AND SPOKE WITH YOU AND ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS.
I WOULD JUST REITERATE OUR REQUEST THAT RJ DAIGLE IS THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDER IN THIS INSTANCE.
INCIDENTALLY, SINCE THE LAST BID PROTEST AND THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE REJECTION OF ALL BIDS, THE 45 DAY DELAY REQUIRED IN 38 22 15 HAS PASSED.
AND AT THIS POINT, THE CITY PARISH ONLY HAS ONE OPTION AND IT'S TO AWARD THIS JOB TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDER.
AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S RJ DAIGLE.
RJ DAIGLE COMPLIED WITH EVERY ONE OF THE STATUTORY COMPONENTS AND THE BID INSTRUCTIONS PROVIDED BY THE CITY PARISH.
AND THERE HAS BEEN NO FINDING AND NO SUGGESTION WHATSOEVER THAT RJ DL HAS NOT COMPORT COMPORTED WITH ALL OF THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, RJ DL HAS TO BE FOUND THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDER AND THE AWARD MUST GO TO THEM.
SO UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER THE CITY PARISH'S SUGGESTION AND NOT REJECT ALL BIDS, NOT DELETE THIS ITEM, BUT VOTE TO AWARD THE ITEM TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE BIDDER.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, IT IS THE COMMITTEE'S DECISION.
IT IS CERTAINLY NOT MINE OR THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ALONE.
UM, UH, I APPRECIATE WHAT MS. IRWIN HAS PRESENTED HERE TODAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, UM, WE DID REEVALUATE ALL OF THE PROPOSALS THAT CAME IN.
THE ERROR THAT WAS ON OUR PART OF LACKING THAT NON COLLUSION AFFIDAVIT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT NONE OF THE BIDDERS OTHER THAN RJ DAIGLE PUT INTO THEIR SUBMISSIONS.
SO AGAIN, THIS REITERATED, UH, AT LEAST FROM THE COMMITTEE STANDPOINT, THAT THE CITY PARISH HAD DONE THIS INCORRECTLY.
AND AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD AND SIMPLY, UH, AWARDING RJ DL, THERE IS A PROCESS AS MS. ERWIN WOULD KNOW UNDER PUBLIC BID LAW, THAT IF WE, UH, ARE TO GO FORWARD AND NOT CANCEL THE BID AND CHOOSE TO DEEM, UH, MTRA NON-RESPONSIVE, WE WOULD NEED TO GIVE THEM NOTICE OF THAT AND PROVIDE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED.
ALRIGHT, WHERE ARE WE? COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THE LAWYER'S RESPONSES BID.
THERE IS A SECOND AND A THIRD FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ROCKER AND COUNCIL MEMBER? NO.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE MOTIONS? THERE'S AN OBJECTIVE.
WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE MACHINES COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, CAN WE HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEYS, PARISH ATTORNEYS COME UP OR WHOEVER YOUR LITIGATION, YOUR COMMITTEE MADE A DECISION, THINKS IT NEEDS TO ALL BE WIPED OUT? I I GUESS LOOKING AT THIS, EITHER WAY WE'RE HEADED FOR A LAWSUIT.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T SEE IT.
IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IT ISN'T.
DO YOU FEEL THAT WE ARE HEADED FOR A LAWSUIT IF WE REFUSE MTRA, WHICH IS THEY SAYING TECHNICALLY THEY'RE A LOWER BIDDER BIDDER
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OR WE ASSIGN IT TO RJ DAYL, UM, AS THE MOST RESPONSIVE LOWER BIDDER, AND THEN THE WHOLE SITUATION TO WHERE Y'ALL ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE JUST YANKED THE WHOLE THING AND RESTART THE BID PROCESS? I THINK MY, UM, OPINION TO YOU ALL WOULD BE THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW PUBLIC BID LAW.THAT WE CANNOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT ONE OR THE OTHER WILL FILE SUIT AGAINST US, BUT THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FOLLOW THE PUBLIC BID LAW.
COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON, I'D LIKE TO CALL IT MR. PAUL NACI, OUR INTERIM PURCHASING DIRECTOR, UH, MR. NARCIS TO THE FIRE
UM, SO WALK ME THROUGH, IF THE COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR AT THE MOMENT AND WE APPROVE THE ITEM WITH RJ DAIGLE FROM A PURCHASING STANDPOINT, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? UH, WHAT DO THE, WHAT OPTIONS DO THE OTHER BIDDERS HAVE? SO, UH, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING STEPS, UH, PER THE, UH, PUBLIC BIG BLAH, UM, RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, GIVE A WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE PROPOSED ACTION TO THE SUCH BIDDER IN THE WRITTEN NOTICE OF ALL REASONS FOR THAT PROPOSED ACTION.
SO IN THIS CASE HERE, THAT LETTER WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT, HAVE TO BE NOTARIZED, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO INDICATE ON THAT LETTER THE REASONS WHY THEY WERE NON-RESPONSIVE.
SO, UH, BASICALLY MTRA AND THE OTHER BIDDERS ARE GONNA GET A LETTER FROM US STATING THAT THEY ARE NON-RESPONSIVE, UH, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE A DOCUMENT THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY NEEDED TO PROVIDE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A SEVEN DAY PERIOD WHERE THEY'VE GOT A CHANCE TO PROTEST FIVE WORKING DAYS.
UM, SO I, I, I, AGAIN, I, I UNDERSTAND FROM MS. SMITH THAT WE, WE CAN'T REALLY PREDICT, UM, WHAT ANY OTHER ENTITY IS GONNA DO.
BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE CHANCES THAT WE END UP WITH A PROTEST FROM MTRA OR ONE OF THESE OTHER BIDDERS? UH, MY PROBAB UH, PROBABILITY THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET, UH, MTRA ALSO AS WELL IN SOME OF THE OTHER BIDDERS, UH, UM, PROTESTING THIS, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, I WANNA REITERATE THE FACT THAT, UM, UH, I DON'T TAKE ISSUE WITH ANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT RJ DAIGLE HAS BROUGHT TO US.
AND I, AND I THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THESE.
WHAT I SEE IS DEFICIENCIES IN THE PURCHASING PROCESS, RIGHT? WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION AS CITY PARISH TO MAKE SURE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE IN PLACE, THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF, UM, UH, OF HAVING SENT TO SEND SOMETHING BACK OUT TO BID.
BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, MY CONCERN WITH THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT OUR INTERIM INTERIM PURCHASING DIRECTOR, THE SELECTION COMMITTEE AND OUR PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ALL ALIGN WITH THE BEST PRACTICE BEING TO DELETE THE ITEM AND RESTART THE PROCESS.
I, I, I FEEL WITH A, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CERTAINTY THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS ITEM TONIGHT, WE'RE GONNA END UP IN A PROTEST SITUATION THAT WE'LL LOSE.
UH, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA DELAY OUR STREET REHAB PROGRAM ANYWHERE FROM 90, UH, PROBABLY MORE LIKE SIX TO NINE MONTHS, NOT 90 DAYS, BUT PROBABLY MORE LIKE SIX TO NINE MONTHS.
UH, LOOK, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL STREETS ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM.
I KNOW, I KNOW THE ONES THAT ARE IN DISTRICT NINE.
MY CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT GONNA BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
THEY ARE, THEY ARE PAST READY TO GET THESE STREETS REHABBED.
SO, UH, I WILL ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE BIDDERS HA HAVE A, ESPECIALLY RJ DAYLE, HAVE A LONG STANDING TRADITION OF, OF WORKING WITH US.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
LET'S REBID THIS AND, AND GET THE STREETS FIXED FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DELETE THE ITEM.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THE MOTION TO DELETE? THERE A SECOND.
SO MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MAGDA.
UH, MR. NARCIST, DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
UH, FOR, UH, COMING IN AND SERVING AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, UM, THE LETTER THAT YOU MENTIONED PRIOR TO THAT WOULD NEED TO GO, UH, THE LETTER THAT YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PREVIOUS COMMENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO GO TO, IN THIS CASE, MTRA, UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, WOULD THAT LETTER HAVE BEEN SENT PRIOR TO THIS ITEM COMING TO THE COUNCIL? WELL, WE ARE CURRENTLY, THERE'S A PROTEST THAT'S BEING HELD AND THEN THAT DIRECTION, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO REVIEW THAT FIRST BEFORE THAT LETTER GOES OUT.
SO THERE WAS NOTHING WAS DEEMED IN GENERAL WHERE WE WERE.
EVERYONE WAS DEEMED NON-RESPONSIVE YET UNTIL WE FORMALLY MET IN THE REVIEW MEETING, UH, AND PROTEST COMMITTEE WAS MET FIRST.
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OKAY.TYPICALLY, WOULD THAT, UH, SITUATION HAVE PLAYED OUT PRIOR TO AN ITEM COMING TO THE METRO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, WHETHER IT BE PROTEST OR A LETTER NOTIFYING AN ENTITY, THEY'RE NON-RESPONSIVE.
I'M GONNA DEFER THAT TO OUR CITY PARISH ATTORNEYS, ATTORNEYS.
YOU WOULD ON DOWN SOMEBODY, YOU WOULD BE THAT.
UM, I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, TYPICALLY YOU'RE GONNA GO DOWN ONE ENTIRE PATH AT A TIME.
SO CURRENTLY WE RECEIVED FROM RJ DELE OF PROTEST, A PROTEST COMMITTEE WAS BROUGHT TOGETHER, A DECISION WAS MADE.
THAT DECISION MADE IT, UM, NOT NECESSARY TO SEND OUT LETTERS INDICATING THAT THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE, WERE NON-RESPONSIVE BECAUSE OUR DECISION AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL WAS TO CANCEL THOSE BIDS AND REBID.
UM, UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY, HAVE STEPS BEEN TAKEN TO ENSURE THIS TYPE OF ERROR DOESN'T OCCUR AGAIN? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YES, I CAN.
UM, SINCE THEN ON MONDAY, UM, AND LET ME JUST, UH, NOT TO PULL YOU ALL INTO THE WEEDS, ANY FORMAL SOLICITATION GREATER THAN $250,000 PUBLIC WORKS IS NORMALLY HELD.
THAT'S BEING CONDUCTED BY OUR AGENCIES WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, ARCHITECTURE SERVICES AND WHAT WE DO, WE DO THE ADMINISTRATION PIECE OF IT AND STUFF.
SO WHAT I'VE DONE, WE ACTUALLY MET ON MONDAY, MYSELF WITH LISA AND SOME OF THE TEAM ARE AGENCIES WHERE WE'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT PUTTING A CHECKLIST TOGETHER, WHERE WE'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT OUR, OUR LANGUAGES IN OUR CONTRACTS TO ENSURE THAT THIS ISSUE NEVER RESURFACE ANYMORE.
AND, UM, I'LL, I'LL CONCUR WITH THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE.
I, UM, I WOULD LIKE NOTHING MORE THEN TO AWARD THIS AND MOVE ON WITH IT TONIGHT, PARTICULARLY, UH, ONE OF THESE STREETS IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT THREE.
UM, HOWEVER, THE ANTICIPATION THAT THIS WOULD, IF WE DID THAT, THAT ACTION WOULD THEN BE PROTESTED AND WE'D BE CAUGHT UP FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS.
UH, MAKES ME LEAN ON THE SIDE OF LET'S UNDO WHAT WE UNFORTUNATELY DID AND TRY IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
AND I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPEDITIOUS THAN GOING THIS ROUTE.
SO THAT'S WHERE I AM COUNCIL NUMBER HEAR.
SO, UH, INTERIM DIRECTOR NA SEAT.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS WOULD THE BID, UM, DETAILS THAT YOU PUT OUT, SAY WE DID DENY IT TONIGHT, Y'ALL DECIDE TO PUT IT BACK OUT IN A WEEK, RIGHT? WHAT WOULD CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE AND THE SCOPE OF WORK? SINCE I'M NOT THE, THE AGENCY'S TRULY YES.
FRED JUST NEED THE, THE NEED, THE NICKEL TO FRED.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD CHANGE IN, IN THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THAT? FOR THAT THERE WOULD BE NOTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE ACTUALLY IN THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THE LIST OF STREETS THAT WE ARE ALSO WHERE PART OF THAT PACKAGE, THAT WOULD STILL BE THE SAME.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD BE SURE THAT WE INCLUDED AND VERIFY WOULD BE THE AFFIDAVIT.
AND BE SURE ALL OF THOSE ARE PART OF THE PACKAGE WHEN WE HAVE THE FINAL SUBMISSION ON THAT.
SO MY, MY CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY SHOWN THEIR HANDS, THEY'VE ALREADY SHOWN WHAT THEY WOULD BID BASED ON THE SCOPE OF WORK, IF IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE, WHICH MEANS YOU PUT THEM IN A SITUATION TO WHERE NOW RJ DA'S GOING TO BE LOWER THAN 2,879,000 1 25 AND 75 CENTS.
CAUSE IF I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR ABOUT, UH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR, UH, GIVE OR TAKE LESS THAN ME OR 200,000, THEN I'M GONNA CHANGE MY BID.
SO NOW YOU PUT THEM IN A BAD SITUATION TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR BUSINESS.
AND THEN THE LAST MEETING, I THINK ONE THING WAS NOT BRINGING UP IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE INITIAL BID WAS DONE CORRECTLY, BUT WAS RESPONDED TO INCORRECTLY.
THE SECOND BID WAS DONE INCORRECTLY, BUT IT HAD A FAIL SAFE PIECE OF LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT STILL ALLOWED FOR THE AFFIDAVIT TO BE SUBMITTED.
AND RJ DL COMPLIED TO THAT FAIL SAFE, WHICH INCLUDED THE AFFIDAVIT, WHICH MEANS THEY WERE THE ONLY TRUE RESPONSIVE BIDDER.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M WANT TO SUPPORT IT, UM, TO BE APPROVED, BUT I'M ALSO GONNA PULL UP MR. DL BECAUSE HE WANTED TO
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SPEAK AND IT'S, IT IS BEYOND THE COMMENT TIME.SO THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. NARCIS.
AND CONGRAT, UH, THANK YOU FOR PULLING ME UP.
I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE, THE PROCESS HERE, SO I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UH, SO WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PROCEDURE AND ISSUING LETTERS TO ALL THE BIDDERS, BUT THERE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN TWO LETTERS ALREADY ISSUED TO BIDDERS, UH, FROM THE CITY PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
FIRST ONE WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS PROJECT WAS BID AND REJECTED, AND I'M GONNA READ FROM BOTH OF THEM.
SO FROM THE FIRST ONE, THE PROTEST BY RJ DEEL RAISED AN ALLEGATION THAT MTRA FAILED TO TIMELY SUBMIT THE STATUTORILY MANDATED NON COLLUSION AND NON-SOLICIT SOLICITATION AFFIDAVIT PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF ALL BIDS.
A REVIEW OF RESPONSES CONFIRMS THAT MTRA FAILED TO SUBMIT THE NON, I'M SORRY, I STARTED WITH THE SECOND ONE.
THE FIRST ONE SAYS THAT, UM, THE SAME THING, THE AFFIDAVIT SHOULD BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF ALL BIDS.
BUT THE FIRST TIME OF THE ROUND, NONE OF THE BIDDERS ON THE ABOVE REFERENCE PROJECT SUBMITTED THE STATUTORILY REQUIRED AFFIDAVIT.
PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF ALL BIDS, ALL SUBMISSIONS ARE DEEMED NON-RESPONSIVE.
THE SECOND TIME AROUND, WE DID SUBMIT THAT AFFIDAVIT.
AND WHEN WE RAISED THAT OBJECTION, THE RESPONSE WAS A REVIEW OF THE RESPONSES CONFIRMS THAT MTRA FAILED TO SUBMIT THIS AFFIDAVIT WITH THEIR BID OR PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF THEIR BID, AND THEN THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE OFF.
BUT WE FOUND MTRA NON-RESPONSIVE.
SO THE PROBLEM FOR US IS THAT IT, IT'S VERY BLATANT THAT STATE LAW IS BEING APPLIED DIFFERENTLY TO ONE BIDDER THAN TO ANOTHER.
SO WITH THAT, OF COURSE, I WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS, BUT I DON'T GET A VOTE.
SO I KNOW WE, WE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS LAST TIME AND, UM, I'LL SHARE MY VIEWPOINT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I'M, I'M WEIGHING, UM, I LOOK AT THE SCENARIO WHERE, YES, THE FIRST, THE FIRST BID WENT OUT AND EVERYBODY WAS NON-RESPONSIVE FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON.
AND THAT REASON WAS ARTICULATED TO ALL OF THEM.
AND, UM, AMTRAK DID NOT CORRECT THE ISSUE THAT WAS ARTICULATED THE FIRST TIME COUNCILMAN HEARST POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS A FAIL SAFE LANGUAGE THERE.
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS IN TOTAL, UH, AND NOT TO THE FAIRS, THE COMMITTEE, I THINK IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE BE, WE MESSED UP.
LET'S JUST START, LET'S SCRAP IT AND START OVER.
BUT WHAT IS NOT THOUGHT ABOUT POTENTIALLY, MAYBE, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S DEFINITELY NOT, BUT WHAT MAY NOT BE BEING THOUGHT ABOUT IS THE COST TO THESE BIDDERS TO GO THROUGH THAT.
ONCE AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE'S A LOT OF COST THAT GOES INTO PREPARING THESE BIDS.
AND WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT PLENTY TIMES FROM PEOPLE I KNOW I HAVE.
UM, NOW SOME OF THEM CAN JUST THROW 'EM OUT, WILLYNILLY, BUT USUALLY YOU GET VERY GRANULAR, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND YOU SEE HOW CLOSE THE NUMBERS ARE.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW LOOKING AT BIDS SO MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS, YOU MAY SEE SOME THAT ARE CRAZY, CRAZY HIGH AND SOME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THESE COMPANIES WILL BID AND YOU GET AN IDEA OF WHO'S HUNGRY AND WHO'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, BASED ON SOME OF THE NUMBERS, AND IT KIND OF ALMOST TELLS APIC, UH, TELLS A STORY.
UM, SO IN THIS CASE, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND WHAT OCCURRED, UH, IT, IT MAY VERY WELL BE A DAMNED IF YOU DO, DAMNED IF YOU DON'T SITUATION FOR US, BUT I THINK WE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY LIABLE IF WE DON'T AWARD BECAUSE, AND IF WE MAKE 'EM GO THROUGH THIS COST AGAIN WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE.
SO I THINK IT'S A SCENARIO WHERE WE MAY VERY WELL BE, IT'S NOT FUN.
BUT I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT IT, AND I OFTENTIMES WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT MAY BE LITIGIOUS OR IF WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT A SETTLEMENT, WHAT I DO PERSONALLY, AND I THINK YOU ALL PROBABLY DO AS WELL, IS I SAY, WELL, I I, WE'RE A SAMPLING OF A JURY, RIGHT? AND I'D LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF AS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF I, IF I WERE GATHERING ALL OF THIS, THIS INFORMATION ON A JURY, HOW WOULD I LOOK AT IT? AND SO THAT'S HOW I WEIGH THESE THINGS.
I THINK A LOT OF YOU DO AS WELL.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN I LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT HAS OCCURRED, AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT THE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH.
UM, I I THINK IT'S JUST, IT, IT'S VERY SIMPLE FOR US TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE MESSED UP.
LET'S JUST START OVER AND MAKE EVERYBODY DO IT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBLEMATIC IN AND OF ITSELF.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE SPECIFICS, UM, THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH, I, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE WARD THIS TO THE ONLY RESPONSIVE BIDDER, WHICH
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IS RJ DIEGO AND SUMS COUNCIL NUMBER ROCK.SO NOT TO REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID, BUT SITTING HERE WEDDING IN LINE TO TALK NEXT, I WAS OF THE SAME OPINION WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST BID, THE SECOND BID ON THE SECOND BID, THE CITY GETS IT WRONG.
UM, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RFP PROCESS, I MYSELF HAVE ANSWERED RFPS ALL OVER THE STATE OF LOUISIANA, AND IT IS AN ARDUOUS PROCESS.
WE HAVE SPENT HOURS AND HOURS WITH AN ENTIRE TEAM ASSEMBLED FROM FOLKS ALL OVER THE NATION TO COMPILE OUR BID PROCESS AND TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, WE HAVE PREPARED BINDERS THAT ARE TRIPLE THE SIZE OF OUR COMPETITORS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO COME IN FIRST PLACE AND WE WERE BUYING FOR THAT BUSINESS.
SO FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE UP HERE ON THIS SCREEN TONIGHT, THEY'VE ALL BEEN SLIGHTED BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET OUR PROCESSES RIGHT.
BUT TODAY, RIGHT NOW, AS MR. NOEL COUNCILMAN NOEL HAS SAID, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT RIGHT, AND WE CAN SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT LITIGATION AND PRESUME THAT WE KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA GO IN COURT.
BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS WE DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S TOO MANY FACTORS AT PLAY, AND IT MAY BE BEST FOR A JUDGE TO DECIDE, BUT IN MY POSITION CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS, KNOWING THE PROCESSES THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE, THE SAFE, THE SAFETY NETS THAT SHOULD BE IN PLACE, AND US RELEASING DOCUMENTATION OUT IN THE PUBLIC THAT THEY RELY ON US DOING THE RIGHT THING, WE, WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO THOSE FULL.
UM, MS. LISA SMITH, WHENEVER YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER, YOU SPOKE TO LITIGATION.
WOULD YOU BE THE ATTORNEY THAT WOULD BE SEEING THIS THROUGH THE LITIGATION PROCESS? NO, MA'AM.
WHO WOULD THAT BE? UH, SOMEONE FROM OUR LITIGATION DEPARTMENT.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE FARMED OUT? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT, BUT TYPICALLY IT IS NOT.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF ANYBODY DID IT LAST TIME, BUT, UH, I KNOW NOBODY HAS.
IS ANYONE FROM MTRA HERE? BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK THEY WERE HERE LAST TIME EITHER.
AND THE, THE MEASURE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S THIS ONE OR NOT, I, I GUESS I'LL ASK YOU AS THE ATTORNEY AS FAR AS THE BID PROCESS AND EVERYTHING, WHETHER IT'S YOU OR NOT, THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE REQUESTED OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THERE OR HOWEVER IT WAS, THAT'S A STATE LAW THING THAT HAS TO BE TURNED IN TO ALL OF IT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THAT'S JUST COMMON KNOWLEDGE.
IT, WHETHER YOU PUT A LINE IN THERE OR NOT, THOSE DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE TURNED IN NO MATTER WHAT.
HOWEVER, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS WAS SUBMITTED, NONE OF THE SUBMITTERS TURNED IN THOSE FOUR.
BUT THE SECOND TIME WE DID HAVE EVERYBODY EXCEPT ONE OR, OR THEY, THE ONLY ONES THAT SUBMITTED ALL THE DOCUMENTS.
THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT SUBMITTED ALL THE DOCUMENTS.
WELL, THEY READ BETWEEN THE LINES AND THEY RAN IT TO FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THE STATE.
SO AGAIN, I JUST WANNA PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.
AND, ALL RIGHT, JUST A QUICK STATEMENT HERE.
IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, AND I KNOW SOMETIME IT DOESN'T, BUT I ASKED THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR AT THAT TIME, DID WE DROP THE BALL? DID WE MESS UP? AND THAT ANSWER THAT THEY GAVE, HE GAVE WAS YES.
AND SO, AND IF RJ DAYL SUBMITTED EVERYTHING THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT AND THE OTHERS DIDN'T, AND EVEN IF WE DIDN'T DO WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO, THEN I DON'T UNDERSTAND W I MEAN, AND THEN TALKING ABOUT GOING TO COURT, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT.
AND SO I'M GONNA SAY TO OUR CURRENT INTERIM, UM, PURCHASING PERSON, YOU INHERITED SOMETHING, BUT FROM HERE ON OUT YEAH, YOU GOT SOME SHOES TO FEEL AND DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN YET.
BECAUSE WHERE YOU HAVE US, WHERE NOT YOU, WHERE PURCHASING HAS US IS MAKING A DECISION BASED ON AN ERROR THAT THEY MADE.
AND SO, YEAH, WE CAN SAY, OH YES, I DID.
AND I'M SORRY, BUT IT DOESN'T ERASE THE FACT OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS HERE.
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I ARREST MY CASE.THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR.
THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS TO DELETE THE ITEM MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GOK.
WE WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
FIRST, WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
MACHINES ARE OPEN ON THE SUBSTITUTE.
WE'RE NOW GONNA VOTE ON THE MOTION TO AWARD RJ DELE.
THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN DUNN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ROCCO, MADE BY COUNCILMAN DUNN.
MACHINES ARE OPEN MOTION TO APPROVE AN AWARD TO RJ DELE.
NOW, COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILMAN, BEFORE WE END THE MEETING, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. I KNOW WE WANNA RECONSIDER ONE, BUT I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR DEPUTY CHIEF MYRON DANIELS TO GIVE US A REPORT ON SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
DEPUTY CHIEF, I'M GONNA MAKE IT EXTREMELY QUICK.
UM, THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT EVERY YEAR COMPLETES A, UH, ANNUAL REPORT, UH, END OF THE YEAR REPORT, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAVE THOSE, UH, ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF OUR USUAL TIME.
AND I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TONIGHT, IF THAT IS OKAY.
UM, WE'LL ALSO BE PUTTING THIS ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL, SO THE COMMUNITY HAS ACCESS TO IT.
NOW SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AN ITEM.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM NUMBER 65.
THERE THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM NUMBER 65.
OUR COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO RECONSIDERING THE ITEM NOW? COUNCIL MEMBER MO BACK
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TO YOU ON ITEM.YES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEM NUMBER 65.
THERE IS A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO READ? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO HEAR UPDATED INFORMATION ON THIS, ON THE, UH, ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN SINCE THE LAST DEFERRAL.
DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC WHAT JEOPARDIZE THE CITY'S POSITION AND LITIGATION? YES.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS, OBJECTS.
YES, THERE ARE NO OTHER, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER OBJECTIONS, WE WERE RETIRED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION HEROES IN THERE TOO.
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BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.ARE THERE ANY NEW MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR? COUNCIL? MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ONE OBJECTION.
ANY OTHERS? IF WE HAVE MORE THAN TWO, WE GONNA VOTE ON THE MACHINE.
YOUR OBJECTION? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE MACHINE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM.
MACHINES ARE OPEN ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
ITEM 65, WHAT YOU WANNA DO? MOTION CARRIES.
MOTION CARRIES, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN.
ITEM MEETING HAS BEEN ADJOURNED.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THOSE IN DISTRICT SEVEN, ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE TO COME OUT ON APRIL 1ST AT PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR A SPRING FLEEING EAST EGG HUNT, AS WELL AS OTHER FUN THINGS HAPPENING FOR THE FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY.
PLEASE COME OUT AT 9:00 AM TO 12 NOON AT 26 8 BOGAN WALK FOR OUR ANNUAL SPRING CLEAN AT PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND WHEN YOU LEAVE THERE, COME TO THE CHARLESVILLE KILLER COMMUNITY CENTER FROM ONE TO FOUR.
GET FREE EASTER PICTURES WITH THE EASTER BUNNY, ALONG WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF FOOD CRAFTS AND, UH, OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
AND WE LEAVE THERE ON THE EIGHTH.
COME OVER UNDER THE EXPRESSWAY PARK IN THE DISTRICT 10 AND, UM, GET SOME GOODIES AND SOME GOOD MUSIC.
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WHEN YOU LEAVE THERE ON THE EIGHTH, COME TO THE HARTLEY BAY PARK GARDENER FOR THE EASTER EGG EXTRAVAGANZA, WHERE WE HAVE AN EASTER EGG DROP FROM A SHERIFF'S OFFICE HELICOPTER.I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S RIGHT.
AS ALWAYS, ME TO YOUR CHILDREN AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE, HAVE THEM READ BACK TO YOU.