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THANK YOU.GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR TONIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
[ROLL CALL ]
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE ROLL CALL DIRECTOR, HOLCOMB.AND COMMISSIONER STERLING HERE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]
HOLCOMB.AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 20TH MEETING? MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STERLING, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, THOSE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED.
THERE IS NO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
[RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS ]
UPDATE.SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT TO READ IN THE RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS, RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ANY INTERESTED MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA MAY COMMENT IN PERSON AT CITY HALL 2022 ST.
LOUIS STREET, BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA, 7 0 8 0 2.
DURING THE MEETING, ALL COMMENTS WE BROADCAST ON WWW DOT B R LA I'M YEAH.
ALL COMMENTS WE BROADCAST ON WWW.BR.GOV ON METRO CHANNEL 21, BOX CHANNEL 21, AND AT T CHANNEL 99 ON AND ON THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE FACEBOOK PAGE VIA FACEBOOK LIVE.
COMMENTS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO 3:00 PM OF THE MEETING.
DATE WILL BE COMPILED BY POSITION FOUR AND AGAINST, AND THE TOTAL NUMBER WILL BE ANNOUNCED BEFORE THE ITEMS PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY INTERESTED PERSONS WHO DO NOT WISH TO COMMENT IN PERSON MAY USE THE FORM FOUND@HTTPSWWW.RLA.GOV.
BALL SLASH PC APPLICANT AND APPLICANTS REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPOSAL WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A PERIOD OF NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM SHOULD REFER TO A MEETING AGENDA AND FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM.
ONCE THE ITEM IS ANNOUNCED, EACH PERSON'S NAME WHO IS FILLED OUT A FORM WILL BE CALLED ON TO SPEAK.
PROPONENTS WILL SPEAK THEN THE OPPONENTS, EACH SPEAKER WILL NOT BE ALLOWED MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
SPEAKERS ARE REQUESTED TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS TO AVOID DUPLICATION OF THEIR PRESENTATIONS.
APPLICANTS WILL BE ALLOWED A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES OR REBUTTAL.
[CONSENT AGENDA ]
YOU MR. GRA.WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MR. MORAN, THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THERE ARE NO ITEMS FOR WITHDRAWAL AND THERE ARE NO ITEMS FOR DEFERRAL.
THE FOLLOWING ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CASE 14 23 1500 THROUGH 1600.
BRIGHTSIDE DRIVE TO REZONE FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, A ONE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BRIGHTSIDE DRIVE WEST OF NICHOLSON.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CASE 15 DASH 23 12 75 HONORE LANE TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HONORE LANE, EAST OF FIELDSTONE DRIVE.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CASE 16 DASH 23 1 4700 OLD HAMMAN HIGHWAY TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL ONE LC ONE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OLD HAMMOND HIGHWAY EAST OF MILLERVILLE ROAD.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT K 17 DASH 23 25 75 AND 25 95 O'NEILL LANE TO REZONE FROM LIGHT COMMERCIAL C1 TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE HC ONE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF LANE, SOUTH OF NORTH LAROCHE DRIVE.
ITEM NUMBER 10, CASE 19 DASH 23 1 72 40 PERKINS ROAD TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO GENERAL OFFICE, LOW RISE, G O L ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PERKINS ROAD, NORTH OF HIGHLAND ROAD.
ITEM NUMBER 11, CASE 20 DASH 23 1 21 81 AIRLINE HIGHWAY TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF AIRLINE HIGHWAY WEST OF PICU.
ITEM NUMBER 12, CASE 21 23 56.
21 GOVERNMENT STREET TO REZONE FROM LIGHT COMMERCIAL C1 TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE RESTAURANT, C A B ONE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF A GOVERNMENT STREET WEST OF CLOUD DRIVE.
ITEM NUMBER 13, PUT TWO DASH ZERO BENNY'S B QUICK BURBANK UNIVERSITY FINAL DEVELOPMENT
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PLAN.PROPOSED PROPOSED COMMERCIAL TRUCK RENTAL DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED EAST OF PICU LANE NORTH OF INTERSTATE 10.
IN ITEM NUMBER 14, SS TWO DASH 23.
AJ KLEIN PETER TRACT PROPOSED COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION WITH PUBLIC STREETS ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SEGAN LANE NORTH OF INDUSTRIAL PLEX BOULEVARD PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE UDC.
WE'VE RECEIVED TWO MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION FOR ITEM EIGHT, CASE 1723 AND ONE FOR ITEM 10, CASE 1923 AND I'M 11 CASE 2023.
WE'VE ALSO HAD A REQUEST IN PERSON TO PULL ITEM NUMBER EIGHT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO HAVE IT HEARD IN THE REGULAR AGENDA ORDER.
MR. HOLCOMB COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOU HAVE HEARD ALL THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT ARE TO BE TAKEN WITH ONE VOTE.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAVE AN ITEM ON CONSENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE HEARD AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR NUMBER FOUR TO DEFER? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S ON THE, UH.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S ON CONSENT.
ANY OTHER, UH, ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF, IF NOT, DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? MR. CHAIRMAN, IT WAS JUST, UH, ONE CONFIRMED, UH, CITIZEN WHO WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM EIGHT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SEEING NONE, I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTION? I'M ANY, IS THERE A SECOND? I'M SORRY.
FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT, UH, TO APPROVE THE REMAINING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, THOSE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED.
WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE, TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
BEFORE WE HEAR THE FIRST ITEM, THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST TO, UH, TO REORDER THE, THE AGENDA, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE FLOW OF THE MEETING.
I BELIEVE, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DIRECTOR HO.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR, UH, SPEAKER COURTS ARE FOR THE FIRST TWO ITEMS THAT ARE TO BE TAKEN TOGETHER.
SO, UH, IS THERE A MOTION, UH, FROM THE BODY IN NO TO, UH, APPROVE REORDERING THE AGENDA? THERE'S A MOTION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN MCG THERE.
YOU HAVE NOW HEARD ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE TO BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WILL BE TAKEN WITH ONE VOTE.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION WHO HAVE AN ITEM ON CONSENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED AND HEARD AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA? DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT, THAT WE, THAT WE JUST READ OFF.
HE'S ASKING TO PULL ITEM NUMBER, NUMBER EIGHT.
SO WE'LL PULL, WE'LL PULL THAT ITEM.
WANT, HE DOESN'T WANT IT PULL, SO WE WILL NOT BE PULLING THAT IT, SO WE WILL NOT BE PULLING ANY ITEMS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM? THERE'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, THESE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE YES, THAT'S NOT CONSENT.
NUMBER SIX ISN'T ON CONS CONSENT.
I DON'T, NUMBER SIX IS NOT ON CONSENT.
JUST TO, UH, SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THESE ITEMS. THAT MOTION RECEIVED THE SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THOSE ITEMS? ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THOSE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED.
[2. TA-2-23 Chapter 16, Signs ]
REGULAR AGENDA.WE'LL MOVE, WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO, TEXT AMENDMENT 2 23.
THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS ON, ON YOUR AGENDA LAST MONTH.
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CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED U D C AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 16 RELATED TO SIGNS SPECIFICALLY BLIGHTED IN ABANDONED SIGNS.
UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED A MESSAGE OF SUPPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT FROM BRACK, THE BATON ROUGE AREA CHAMBER MAYOR PRO LAMONT COLE, COUNCIL MEMBER ROWDY GODDE.
UH, THIS TEXT AMENDMENT ESTABLISHES A PROCEDURE FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO DETERMINE WHEN EXISTING SIGNS ARE ABANDONED.
NOTICE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS IN A PROCESS TO RESPOND.
ALSO, THE REMOVAL PROCESS, IF A, IF A SIGN, UH, IF THE OWNER IS NOT RESPONSIBLE.
WE ALSO HAVE RECEIVED ONE MESSAGE IS IN SUPPORT FROM A MEMBER WHO'S PRESENT HERE TODAY, BUT THEY'VE INDICATED THEY DO NOT WANNA SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
TO CLARIFY, DIRECTOR HOLAND, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CORD FROM ANYONE THAT DOES WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL MOVE PAST THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE OPEN, UH, OPENED THE FLOOR FOR ANY, UH, MOTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO? VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW TO APPROVE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LATINO.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[3. TA-3-23 Chapter 9, Use Regulations ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.CHAPTER NINE, USE REGULATIONS.
THIS IS ANOTHER TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATED TO CHAPTER NINE.
SPECIFICALLY USE REGULATIONS, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE'VE RECEIVED A MESSAGE OF SUPPORT FROM THIS ITEM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. IN THIS TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, CLARIFIES EXISTING LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
NOW, IT BREAKS EXISTING LANGUAGE UP INTO TWO SECTIONS, UH, TO MAKE IT EASIER TO ENFORCE AND APPLY THESE REGULATIONS.
IT'S, UH, RELATED TO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF FENCES, BOTH IN THE FRONT AND SIDE YARDS, FENCES OVER FOUR FEET IN THE FRONT, INSIDE CORNER YARDS.
MUST HAVE 70% TRANSPARENCY AND IT CLARIFIES EXISTING MEN MINIMAL SETBACKS, UH, THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE CODE.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
DIRECT THE HOLCOMB BEING THAT THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, UH, FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL, UH, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY MOTIONS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER LANDER, UH, I BELIEVE HAS A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[4. Case 22-23 9856, 9918 and 9958 Burbank Drive ]
NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CASE 22 23 9 8 5 6 9 9 1 8 AND 99 58 BURBANK DRIVE, CASE 22 23 98, 56, 99 18, AND 99 58 BURBANK DRIVE.PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BURBANK DRIVE, WEST OF ELVIN DRIVE COUNCIL.
THE APPLICANT IS AYAD ALGAMAL.
FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS RURAL WITH A REQUESTED ZONING OF LIGHT COMMERCIAL LC, ONE CASE 22 23, 98, 56, 99 18, AND 99 58 BURBANK DRIVE.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION OFFICE HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION TO SPECIFICALLY A VAPE SHOP AT THIS LOCATION.
BUT THE APPLICANT IS, IS SEEKING LC ONE, LIKE COMMERCIAL ONE REZONING.
THERE IS NO INDICATION OF A VAPE SHOP ON THE APPLICATION.
THIS TIME I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
UH, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY FATHER, MR. AMA.
UM, SO WE ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM BREWER TO C ONE AS STATED.
UM, WE ARE TRYING TO DO A SEAFOOD MARKET.
UM, WE ARE TRYING TO BRING TO THE COMMUNITY FAMILY FRIENDLY SEAFOOD MARKET, AND WE ARE HOPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTS US.
UM, AND, UH, THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY A VAPE STORE WITH A VAPE SIGN NEXT DOOR TO THE PLACE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, RENOVATING AND WORKING TOWARDS
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OPENING.BUT, UH, IT IS NO LONGER THERE.
THE SIGN HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN AND THE LANDLORD CAN CONFIRM IT, AND THAT'LL BE ALL.
WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKER CORDS, UH, THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
THE FIRST IS FOR MURIEL HARRISON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
I SERVE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE GUARDER INITIATIVE AND, UH, WE ARE FUNDED TO REDUCE UNDERAGE ALCOHOL USE AND OTHER SUBSTANCE MISUSE.
AND WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT REZONING THAT WOULD POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE PERMIT THE SALE OF VAPES.
AND, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A VAPE SHOP THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM OUR PARK, AND WE KNOW FROM THE RESEARCH THAT THE MORE RETAIL AVAILABILITY, THE MORE ACCESS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE.
AND SO WE WANT TO STOP THE PROLIFERATION OF VAPE SHOPS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT IS THE REASON THAT WE ARE OPPOSING THIS MEASURE.
OUR NEXT COURT IS FOR KAREN LEE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, MA'AM.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH BURBANK FARM PREVENTION AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AND I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF THE HERMITAGE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS, UH, LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE LOCATION THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS IN OUR SUBDIVISION AND AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT DID NOT WISH TO HAVE A VAPE SHOP OPEN IN SUCH A PROMINENT LOCATION AND ESPECIALLY SO CLOSE TO A SCHOOL THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY OPPOSE THIS.
WE HAVE A SCHOOL, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS LESS THAN A THOUSAND YARDS FROM THE LOCATION.
ALSO, UH, THAT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE ONE OF THE, A BENEFICIAL BUSINESS FOR THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THE PROLIFERATION OF MORE VAPE UH, PRODUCTS AND HAVING ACCESS TO IT BY THE RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND ALSO, UH, I THINK THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE VAPE SHOP WAS OPERATING WITHOUT A PERMIT AND WE HAD A SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE, WE'RE, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THAT.
MR. NEXT, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT, BUT HE NOT SAY HE'S NOT DOING A VAPE SHOP AND A VAPE SHOP DOES NOT EXIST.
MAYBE THEY MAYBE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
IS THERE A, IS THERE AN APPLICATION HERE THAT CAN ALLOW HIM TO PUT A VAPE SHOP, BUT HE'S NOT DOING A VAPE SHOP FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE'S DOING A SEAFOOD MARKET.
YOU THINK THAT'S WHAT HE SAID? I JUST WANTED BE CLEAR WHAT A MARKET THAT IS.
SO HE'S NOT DOING ANY VAPE SHOPS, SO I DON'T WANT THE MISDEMEANOR TO BE, AND HE'S OKAY, LET THE COME BACK UP HIS FINGER.
I GOT CLARITY SO THAT THEY, SO THE RESIDENTS WHO COMING UP ARE IN OPPOSITION THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.
WE HAVE ONE MORE, UH, ONE MORE CORD.
BUT IF THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT WHAT THEY HAVE OPPOSITION TO.
THAT'S ALL I WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT.
SO THAT'S MY POINT OF CLINIC PRIVILEGE RIGHT NOW TO ASK THAT QUESTION.
IF IT IS A VAPE SHOP, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT IF THE APPLICANT'S NOT DOING A VAPE SHOP AND THE RESIDENT'S NOT OPPOSITION, BE BASED ON THAT, THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT WHAT HE'S DOING.
LET'S, SO I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION FOR MY POINT OF REFERENCE.
YEAH, THERE WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER CARD, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON THAT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS HIS RE REBUTTAL.
I'M, I'M HOPING THAT HE'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THAT, UH, IN THAT REBUTTAL.
THAT FINAL SPEAKER CARD IS FOR SAMMY GRIMES, UH, THAT IS IN OPPOSITION, BUT DOES NOT WISH, WISH TO SPEAK.
AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, I'M SORRY.
MR. GRIMES, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, SIR.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME IS SAMMY GRIMES.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF HERMITAGE CROSS CREEK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, 486 HOMES.
UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF HERMITAGE CROSS CREEK, UH, CRIME PREVENTION AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE ISSUE WE HAVE HERE WITH THE VAPE SHOP, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW HE'S DOING A FOOD THING, SEAFOOD, IT'S THE FACT THAT IN A NEFARIOUS MANNER, THEY OPEN UP A VAPE SHOP AND STARTED RUNNING BUSINESS.
AND WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER ONE TO BE SLIPPED IN.
IT WAS RAN, IT WAS OPERATING AND WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
NOBODY KNEW IT, SO THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, SHUT IT DOWN.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH.
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IT.WE, ANYTHING THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO US, WE'LL SUPPORT IT.
I GAVE YOU THE HOMES WISE, SO YOU'LL KNOW HOW MANY WE GOT THE RESIDENTS THAT DO BUY AND SERVICE THAT AREA.
UH, WE JUST DON'T WANT A BIG JOB.
IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAD ONE EARLIER.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE US SPEAKING.
WE THINK THAT LATER ON IN THE FUTURE, IT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD RE UH, INVENT ITSELF OR COME BACK AGAIN.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
SO, YES, AS I PREVIOUS PREVIOUSLY STATED, UM, IT WAS A PRE, PREVIOUSLY A VAPE STORE THAT WAS A COMPLETE SEPARATE ENTITY.
WE WERE NOT INVOLVED WITH THEM.
WE, UH, IT WAS A COMPLETE DIFFERENT LEASE, COMPLETE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
WE ARE A WHOLE SEPARATE SUITE.
AND WE DO AGREE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CONCERNS WITH, UH, A VAPE STORE BEING BROUGHT UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY SURROUNDING SCHOOLS.
UM, MY DAD DOESN'T WANT TO BRING SOMETHING INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO BRING INTO HIS OWN COMMUNITY.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
AND COMMISSIONER ADDISON, I'LL, I'LL POINT TO YOU FIRST IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR, OR ANY, ANY, ANY, UH, WORDS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO, LIKE, SHARE WITH US.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR APPROVING THIS ITEM FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS, AND I BELIEVE THERE IS FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UH, VICE CHAIRMAN MCGRAW WOULD LIKE TO, UH, CAN THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD PLEASE? THE APPLICANT, UH, WHOEVER, WHOEVER'S SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, UH, SPEAKING ON BEHALF.
UM, MR. MR. DIRECTOR, UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR LC ONE THAT WOULD ALLOW A SEAFOOD SHOP THAT'S CORRECT.
A SEAFOOD SHOP WITHOUT ALCOHOL.
AND, AND, AND IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW A VAPE SHOP IF ONE WERE TO, IF ONE, IF, IF ONE WERE TO HAPPEN? CORRECT.
VAPE SHOP IS CONSIDERED RETAIL SALES.
LC ONE WOULD ALLOW RETAIL SALES.
UM, QUESTION Y UH, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE OPENING A SEAFOOD SHOP IN THE, YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH A VAPE SHOP.
DO YOU OWN THE PROPERTY THAT THE VAPE SHOP WAS ON? UH, THE, WELL, CURRENTLY WE'RE TENANT, THE LANDLORD OWNS, OWNS BOTH PROPERTIES.
YOU, YOU DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? NO, WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND, AND YOU DO NOT INTEND TO OPEN A VAPE SHOP? NO, SIR.
SO YOU, SO FOR THE RECORD, YOU'RE NOT OPENING A VAPE SHOP? YES, SIR.
IN THE APPLICATION, THERE'S, IT'S A SEAFOOD.
AND I, I KNOW WE CAN'T DETERMINE WHAT, WHAT YOU DO WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF LC ONE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, AND WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE QUITE CONCERNED.
IF THE PREVIOUS LANDLORD LET THAT IN, THAT'S FINE.
UM, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DID NOT, YOU KNOW, IF, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS NOT YOU ALL WHO PUT THE VAPE SHOP IN THERE.
SO WITH THAT, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M, UH, I'M DONE.
SO, IS IS THE PERSON, YOU SAY YOUR TENANTS AT THIS PROPERTY, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
WHO'S THE PERSON THAT'S WHOSE NAME IS ON THE LEASE? IS THAT YOU SIR? HE'S THE LANDLORD.
COULD YOU COME, COME TO THE PODIUM IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME CLARITY AS TO, UH, WHAT HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UH, V SHOP, UH, THERE WAS SOMEONE TRYING TO OPEN A, A VAPE SHOP THAT APPARENTLY DIDN'T HAVE, UH, ALL THE, ALL THE PERMITS, UH, THAT THEY NEEDED AND IT WASN'T ON FOR THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
SO, SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME CLARITY ON, ON WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT AND ANY SEPARATION THERE IS BETWEEN, UH, THE ENTITY THAT WAS TRYING TO DO THAT AND THE, THE GROUP THAT'S TRYING TO, UH, THAT'S SEEKING THIS REZONING.
THE COUNCILMAN WHO CALLED ME REGARDLESS THE, THE ISSUE.
AND I GAVE HIM A PROMISE MYSELF AS A LANDLORD.
CAUSE I GOT KIDS MY OWN 18 AGENT UP, AND I TOLD HIM IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN FROM DAY ONE WHO WAS A MISTAKE WITH THE PERSON WHO GAVE HIM A LEASE, BUT HE WOULDN'T GOT HIS LICENSE.
BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE NO OCCUPANCY IN THE, IN THE PLACE.
IF I KNOW THE PLACES, UH, SHOULD BE REZONED FROM DAY ONE, I WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.
I WILL APPLY FOR REZONING, BUT I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, WITH, UM, WITH ANYBODY
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REGARDLESS OF THEIR PROPERTY.I'M NOT GONNA DO ANY VAPE SHOP, ANY LIQUOR EITHER.
I DON'T WANT NO LI NO LIQUOR, NO VAPE SHOP IN THE POLICE.
UH, AND MR. CORINO, HE'S THE COUNCILMAN FOR THE, THE AREA.
HE SPOKE WITH ME TWICE REGARDLESS OF THAT PROBLEM.
COMMISSIONER GRO, DID THAT SATISFY YOUR QUESTION? THAT'S THAT, THAT BASICALLY SATISFIES THE QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER ADDISON, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, THAT MOTION TO RECEIVE THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS.
ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM WAS APPROVED.
[6. Case 24-23 2340 North Sherwood Forest Drive ]
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CASE 24 23.2340 NORTH SHERWOOD FOREST DRIVE CASE 24 23.
2340 NORTH SHERWOOD FOREST DRIVE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH SHERWOOD FOREST DRIVE, NORTH STAN AVENUE COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX DUNN JR.
FUTURE VR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS A MIXED USE.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL C2 AND COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE RESTAURANT, C A B ONE WITH A REQUESTED ZONING OF COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR AND LOUNGE, C A B TWO CASE 24 23.
2340 NORTH SHERWOOD FOREST DRIVE.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM, THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICE HAS RECEIVED 27 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? UH, UH, I ASKED MY FIRST TIME HERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I'M JUST GONNA SPEAK.
SO I'VE BEEN STAYING THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
UH, I WENT TO BALLARD HIGH SCHOOL.
MY SON GO TO GEO PREP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, I KNOW THE BARBERSHOP, UH, GUY THAT OWNED THE BARBERSHOP, THE LADY THAT OWNED THE, UH, BILLY JEANS, THE LOCAL RESTAURANT.
AND, UH, MY HOURS WAS GONNA BE FROM FIVE TO TWO IN THE MORNING.
THAT'S AFTER SCHOOL IN, I BELIEVE THE PROBLEM WAS THAT WE, THEY ASSUMED THAT WE WAS GONNA BE OPEN FOR, UH, TWO HOURS, WHICH WON'T BE IT.
UH, HOPEFULLY WE HAD A BUSINESS THERE.
IT WAS A BOUTIQUE, UH, OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T DO SO GOOD.
SO WE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
UH, WE WOULD BELIEVE THAT THIS COULD GENERATE, UH, JOBS, UH, A FEW JOBS AND BE SOME GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR YOUR LOCAL, UH, WORKING PEOPLE THAT WORK.
I WORK A LOT OF HOURS AND WHEN I GET OFF, SOMETIMES I LIKE TO SOCIALIZE AT A NICE ATMOSPHERE.
AND I'M HOPING, UH, Y'ALL CAN PASS ALONG AND PASS THAT, UH, LOOKALIKE.
SO I GET THIS BUSINESS RUNNING.
AND, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I GOT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO SPEAKER CORDS THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM.
OUR FIRST IS FOR MELANIE MADISON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF THERE BEING A LOUNGE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVING A PLACE, HAVE A PLACE WHERE ADULTS COULD GET OFF OF WORK AND COME AND SOCIALIZE AND HAVE INTERACTIONS WITH OTHERS.
UM, YES, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A SCHOOL AND A DAYCARE NEAR THE LOUNGE, BUT I LIKE, UM, HE MENTIONED BEFORE IT WILL NOT BE DURING THE BUSINESS HOURS OF THE LOUNGE.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR LAIKA TAYLOR, YOU HAVE FOUR FOR THREE MINUTES.
AND BASICALLY, I'M JUST SAYING THE SAME THING EVERYBODY ELSE SAID IT WON'T BE DURING SCHOOL HOURS.
THIS MY DAUGHTER'S SHOP, SHE'S OPENING UP.
IT WAS, SHE HAD A BOUTIQUE AT FIRST.
THE COMMUNITY JUST IS A, YOU KNOW, LOW CLASS COMMUNITY AND WE JUST TRYING TO BRING IT UP.
WHERE I GREW UP AT BARS WAS LIKE WHERE PEOPLE WAS, FAMILY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY COME AROUND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY GONNA BE WHAT, 25 AND UP? NO CLUB, NO DJS, JUST REGULAR LITTLE
OUR NEXT COURT IS FOR FELICIA JACKSON.
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.I STAY IN THE AREA, ACTUALLY, I STAY IN A RED OAK SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, ONCE I FOUND OUT THAT, UM, THE YOUNG LADY WAS TRYING TO, THEY'RE TRYING TO OPEN UP A LOUNGE, OF COURSE, I WENT AND SPOKE WITH THEM AND I ASKED THEM SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
MY MAIN ONE BEING THAT THERE'S A SCHOOL DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH MY NEPHEW ATTENDS.
LIKE, AND THERE'S ALSO A DAYCARE THAT'S, UM, A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS DOWN.
HOW WOULD THEY ACCOMMODATE THAT? AND SO ONCE THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO OPEN AFTER HOURS, AFTER SCHOOL HOURS, UM, I WAS OKAY, YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT AREA IS A HIGH CRIME AREA AND, UM, I KNOW IT'S A, IT WAS A BOUTIQUE AND EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S IN THAT AREA, NOTHING HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
SO WE NEED SOMETHING TO BRING TO THAT AREA THAT'S GOING TO BRING IT UP INSTEAD OF HAVING VACANT BUILDINGS.
AND IT'S, THE TARGETED AUDIENCE IS MATURE AUDIENCE ONLY.
UM, THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, UM, LIKE A, A CLUB TYPE SCENE.
IT'S REALLY STRICTLY FOR MATURE ADULTS TO COME AFTER WORK.
MAYBE HA YOU KNOW, WATCH THE GAMES, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST SOCIALIZE WITH ONE ANOTHER AND YOU KNOW, HAVE A FEW DRINKS AT THE SAME TIME.
I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, WE NEED SOMETHING IN THAT AREA BECAUSE EVERYTHING, UM, ON THAT LITTLE STRIP HAS FAILED.
SO THERE'S NOTHING WE NEED TO GIVE SOMETHING TO TRY INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING ALL OF THESE VACANT BUILDINGS.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY, UM, OH, THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, SECURITY TRAINED SECURITY AND THE BARTENDERS OR WHOEVER ARE GOING TO BE LICENSED.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE MY HOMEWORK, I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH AND I'M COMPLETELY FOR IT.
WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE IN FAVOR, BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
THOSE ARE FOR CHERYL TAYLOR AND JADA TAYLOR.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CHORUS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR FIRST SPEAKER, AL ALFREDA.
I AM A RESIDENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, I HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES COME TO THAT PARTICULAR, UH, LOCATION.
UH, NONE OF THEM ARE REALLY SUCCESSFUL, AS BEEN STATED.
UM, THE BOUTIQUE, UM, HAS BROUGHT ISSUES FOR ME.
I WORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING.
I DON'T FEEL SAFE WALKING TO THE STORE THAT IS IN THE SAME BUILDING.
WHEN THE BOUTIQUE WAS THERE, THE NOISE LEVEL WAS TO THE POINT WHERE I COULD NOT WORK.
I WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE WORK, GO HOME, BECAUSE I COULDN'T CONCENTRATE.
AND THE MUSIC, THEY HAD MUSIC OUT, OUT ON THE STREET ON, ON THE SIDEWALK.
YOU COULDN'T EVEN WALK ON THE SIDEWALK TO GET TO THE STREET.
SO MY THING IS, IF, IF, IF, IF, IF I CAN'T HAVE ACCESS TO WHERE I'M GOING AND FEEL SAFE, IF IT'S A BOUTIQUE, THEN HIRING THE WORLD, AM I GONNA FEEL SAFE? IF IT'S A CLUB, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYBODY DOING ANYTHING.
UH, WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I'M FOR THAT.
BUT PUTTING A A, AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS GOING TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, LOUD MUSIC, A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE HANGING OUT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CURRENTLY HAPPENS ALREADY AND IT'S NOT EVEN THERE, UH, I DON'T FEEL SAFE FOR MYSELF, MY GRANDKIDS.
I WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO WALK FROM MY HOME TO THE STORE BECAUSE OF THIS.
I'M A GROWN WOMAN AND I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN WALK.
I WON'T EVEN WALK FROM, IT'S NOT EVEN 20, UH, 20 YARDS FROM, FROM, FROM, FROM MY WORKPLACE TO THE STORE.
SO I AM OPPOSED OF THIS PARTICULAR ESTABLISHMENT BEING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE ENOUGH CRIME AS IT IS AND WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE.
OUR NEXT COURT IS FOR LISA REYNOLDS.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? GOOD EVENING.
UM, LIKE THEY SAID, THEY LIVE IN RED OAKS.
RED OAKS IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
IT'S NOT A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR COMMUNITY IS FAR AS OAKS WINDSOR PLACE.
WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE BEEN A CRIME PREVENTION DISTRICT.
WE ARE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY
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TO BRING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD UP.WE HAVE HAD THREE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUPS AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY FROM RED OAKS CAME OVER THERE TO HELP US.
OKAY? WE ARE, WE HAVE OUR POLICE PATROL BEEFED UP.
WE HAVE CAMERAS, LICENSE PLATE READERS FIRST, WE HAVE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS THAT'S COMING UP AS FAR AS THE BOUTIQUE.
IT HAS BEEN A EYESORE AND A NUISANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE FACT THAT IT IS CLOSED IS A PLUS.
NOW THEY WANNA BRING IN AND CHANGE IT INTO A BAR, CLUB, NIGHTCLUB, LOUNGE, WHATEVER.
YOU HAVE ABOUT 10, 15 SPACES FOR CARS TO PARK.
MY QUESTION IS, WHEN YOUR PATRONS COME BETWEEN FIVE AND TWO, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? ALL OVER THE STREET.
ALL OVER OTHER PEOPLE PROPERTY.
THERE IS A DAY COURT CARE RIGHT NEXT TO YOU.
THERE'S A DAYCARE ACROSS FROM YOU.
THERE IS A SCHOOL ACROSS FROM YOU.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SECURE YOUR PATRONS FROM TEARING UP SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY? HOW ARE YOU GONNA SECURE THEM FROM VIOLENT ACTS WHEN YOU HAD A BOUTIQUE AND YOU COULD NOT SECURE YOUR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY FROM BEING BURNED? DID YOU NOT HAVE A TRUCK THAT WAS BURNED ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT BELONGED TO Y'ALL? OKAY.
THE ONLY PERSON THAT SHOULD BE SPEAKING IS THE PERSON AT THE PODIUM.
AND MA'AM, IF YOU COULD JUST DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, THAT'D BE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
SO OUR CONCERN FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE WORKING HARD TO BRING UP WOULD NOT BE BROUGHT UP.
AND YOU HAVE 25 SECONDS, BRING IT IN A, A LOUNGE OR A CLUB.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR ARCHIE JONES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, UH, CONCERNING, UM, THIS, UM, PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
I AM, UH, ALONG WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, NOT IN FAVOR OF YET.
THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THAT, UM, THE, THE APPLICANT INDICATES THAT, UM, THE AREA IS 1200 SQUARE FEET THAT'S INTENDED TO BE ALLOWED.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PUT ON THE TABLE AND ADVISE THAT THAT BUILDING IS A APPROXIMATELY 9,000 SQUARE FEET BUILDING SITTING ON A CORNER ACROSS THE STREET FROM A, ACROSS THE STREET FROM A, UH, SCHOOL NEXT DOOR TO A DAYCARE CENTER.
THE BUS STOP IS, UH, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET WHERE PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS THEY, AS THEY GO TO THE BUS STOP AND COME FROM THE BUS STOP, YOU'VE HEARD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH PEOPLE JUST HANGING OUT.
UM, SO THE, THE CHANGING OF A ZONING FOR, FOR 1200 SQUARE FEET, I THINK IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF IMAGINATION TO KNOW THAT THE NEXT 8,000 SQUARE FEET IS IN PLAY TO BE REZONED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH IF THIS GETS DONE, WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
SO, UH, THE POTENTIAL IS, UM, A LOT GREATER THAN 1200 SQUARE FEET IN THE APPLICATION.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR KARA RANSON.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? GOOD EVENING.
I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONLY THREE YEARS.
I'M ALSO RAISING MY GRANDCHILDREN THERE.
THE CORNER STORE, WHICH IS CALLED AL'S.
I TRAVEL UP THERE EVERY NOW AND AGAIN TO GET SNACKS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THEY'RE CORRECT ABOUT THE BOUTIQUE.
THEY ALSO HAD LIKE A LITTLE CAR WASH OVER THERE AS WELL WHERE YOU SEE CERTAIN TYPE OF VEHICLES WITH MUSIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT COME THROUGH AND THEY'RE GETTING THEIR CAR WASHED, THEY'RE HANGING OUT EVEN AT NIGHT.
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MOSTLY A LOT OF GUYS HANGING OUT THERE, WHICH IS AROUND EIGHT, NINE O'CLOCK.SO MY THING IS, IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IT BETWEEN THE HOURS OF FIVE AND TWO, BUT IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN THAT'S HAVING AFTERCARE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AFTER FIVE, CUZ SOME PARENTS WORK A LITTLE LATE, THEY'RE GONNA RUN INTO THAT.
AND I'M ALL FOR BLACK BUSINESSES OR WHATEVER THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING, JUST NOT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE WORKING SO HARD TO GET IT TO WHERE WE NEED IT TO BE FOR OUR OWN SAFETY.
OUR NEXT COURT IS FOR PAULINE WATSON.
UH, LIKE EVERYONE SAID, IT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
I'M, I'M ON THE BOARD, UM, IN THE, UH, COMMUNITY AND WE NEVER RECEIVED A NOTICE ABOUT IT.
I JUST SO HAPPENED TO SEE A FLYER THAT SOMEBODY PUT OUT AND THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR, FOR THE BOARD.
AND WHEN I CALLED THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICE, THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE MAILED OUT.
AND I'LL SAY, ASK THEM TO HOOP BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM IT.
AND I DIDN'T GET A NOTICE ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FLYER, MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS.
THAT'S HOW WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
WHEN I SEEN THE SIGN OUT THERE FOR REZONING, I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR THE STORE.
I DIDN'T SEE A SIGN ON THEY BUSINESS TRYING TO GET ALCOHOL LICENSE OR ANY OF THAT.
AND WHEN I WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE SIGN, THE SIGN WAS GONE.
I ASKED THE PLAN COMMISSION, THE SIGNS SUPPOSED TO BE GONE.
SO SOMEONE PICKED THE SIGN UP AND IT WAS GONE.
BUT MY CONCERN IS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, THEY COULD SAY BAR, LOUNGE, WHATEVER.
WE ALL KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A CLUB.
AND HOW YOU GONNA HAVE A BOY IN A LOUNGE AND NOT HAVE A DJ? COME ON, MUSIC IS GONNA TRAVEL.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN THE STREET, PARKING THEIR CARS, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUSINESSES THAT'S THERE, THAT'S BEEN THERE.
I'VE BEEN IN MY HOME FOR 10 YEARS AND I'M ON THE COMMITTEE AND WE TRYING TO GET IT SAFER FOR EVERYBODY'S THERE.
I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND I'M GONNA DO WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO KEEP MY COMMUNITY SAFE BECAUSE I LIVE THERE AND MY GRANDCHILDREN ARE THERE.
SO IF IT TAKE ME AND MY NEIGHBORS WALKING THE STREET, GETTING PETITIONS, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO KEEP A BAR OUTTA OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LET 'EM TAKE IT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THEY DON'T LIVE THERE, THEY LIVE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
THEY CAN TAKE IT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET A BALL.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DON'T WANT TO HIT A DRAGON DOWN THE STREET AT 1 1 30 IN THE MORNING.
GUNSHOTS, WAKING UP, PICKING UP PAPER.
WE PICK UP ENOUGH PAPER WHEN PEOPLE PASSING DOWN THE STREET, THROWING THE PAPER OUT OF THE WINDOW.
I DON'T WANT TO BE GETTING UP PICKING UP PAPER THAT CAME FROM THE BAR CUZ THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
MY NEXT CALL IS FOR VICTOR ROBINSON SENIOR.
YEAH, IT'S JUST ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID.
UH, I'M ON THE BOARD AT THE FAR AND WEST PLACE, CIVIL ASSOCIATION.
WE HAD WORKED HARD TO TRY TO UH, TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK TO WHERE IT'S AT.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS, BUT WE MOVING FORWARD TO TRYING TO DO RIGHT.
WE HAVE A THREE DAY CARES, LIKE THEY SAY, SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU GOT THREE STORES ALREADY SELLING ALCOHOL.
I SPOKE TO THE YOUNG LADY ABOUT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
I WENT TO TALK TO THE GUY AT THE CELL PHONE SHOP CUZ SHE WANTED TO TRY TO GET A CAMERA, SURVEILLANCE CAMERA, WE FINN TO GET READY TO COME UP WITH SOME CAMERAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO SHE WAS ABLE TO COME ACROSS THE STREET AND TALK TO ME.
AND HER WORDS WAS, THAT WAS HER BUSINESS, SHE TOLD ME.
BUT HER DE HER GOT CAUGHT ON FIRE AND SHE WANTED TO GET A SURVEILLANCE CAMERA.
SO I TOLD HER TO GIVE ME HER NAME AND ADDRESS OUTCOME, GET WITH ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND WE'LL GET BACK WITH HER.
BUT THE NEXT TIME WE KNOW, LIKE THEY SAY THE BOUTIQUE, EVERYTHING WAS CLOSED DOWN.
BUT WE WORKING HARDER TRYING TO WORK WITH THE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE WORKING WITH BRETT, TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE PARK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S NOT A LOW CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'VE JUST BEEN HAVING PROBLEM WITH CRIME AND
YEAH, WE DO HAVE SHOOTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE DO HAVE POLICE PATROL IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE STAY THERE, WE GOTTA DO OUR PART TOO.
AND WE WORKING HARD TO DO THAT.
WE DON'T WANT NO NIGHTCLUB OR WHATEVER THEY TRYING TO OPEN UP.
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YOU KNOW, WE AGAINST THAT AND WE WORKING HARD WITH, LIKE I SAID, WITH THE YOUNG KIDS THAT JUST TRYING TO HELP THEM.AND LIKE I SAID, THEY GOT THREE DAYCARE AND THAT WOULDN'T LOOK RIGHT.
THAT IS OUR FINAL, UH, SPEAKER CARD FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION.
WE DID HAVE A LATE CARD, UH, FOR UH, SOMEONE THAT IS IN FAVOR AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
SO I'LL CALL THEM TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, UH, BEFORE THE REBUTTAL THAT IS FOR TAIWAN LE BLANC.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS IF SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO OPEN UP, WHETHER IT'S A BOY, A LOUNGE OR A CLUB OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CALL IT, THEY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THEIR FAMILY.
THEY'S TALKING ABOUT CHECKING IN WITH A BOARD.
NOBODY IS OBLIGATED TO CHECK IN WITH NO BOARD FIRST OF ALL.
SECOND OF ALL, UH, THEY SAY TAKE IT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY LIKE IT'S 10 MILES ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
THE BARE MINIMUM TRANSPORTATION IT'LL TAKE TO GET THERE IS TWO FEET.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, TALKING ABOUT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, CRIME IS EVERYWHERE.
THEY SAY IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SCHOOL.
IT'S DOWN THE STREET FROM A DAYCARE.
OKAY? THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER LOUNGE THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND THE DAYCARE IS FURTHER DOWN THE CORNER.
SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO OPEN UP AN ESTABLISHMENT TO BETTER THEIR FAMILY, TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILY, TO BUILD AN ESTABLISHMENT.
AND, AND, AND IT DOES, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I I FEEL LIKE IT'S A BIGGER, A BIGGER MOTIVE BEHIND WHY THEY TRYING TO PUSH, UH, OH, YOU CAN'T OPEN THIS AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
IT'S ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE RIGHT THERE.
OKAY, WHY YOU NOT TRYING TO F**K THEM OUT? WHY YOU TRYING TO STOP, UH, A BLACK BUSINESS FROM OPENING UP AN ESTABLISHMENT FOR THEIR FAMILY? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
YOU SAY YOU WANT TO KEEP DOWN CRIME AND, AND OKAY, THAT'S COOL, BUT CRIME IS EVERYWHERE.
YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T STOP THAT.
WHY ARE YOU NOT REPORTING ALL OF THESE, THIS PERSON SELLING DRUGS OR, OR THIS PERSON RIGHT HERE ON DRUGS AND CAUSING THE DISTURBANCE? YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT PATROLLING NONE OF THAT, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO STOP SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S TRYING TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THEIR FAMILY.
THESE PEOPLE ONLY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THEY FAMILY.
THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO CAUSE NO TROUBLE OR, OR, OR TRYING TO.
BUT I WANT TO SAY I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT I, WHAT WORD I WANT TO USE, BUT THEY ONLY TRYING TO, THEY'RE ONLY TRYING TO BUILD AN ESTABLISHMENT FOR THEIR FAMILY.
AND AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
UH, AGAIN, UH, MY NAME MAL CORS, UH, I STAYED ON STAN DRAFT ABOUT 10 YEARS.
I STAYED IN BRANDON FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
LIKE I SAY, UH, I KNOW EVERYBODY AROUND.
I DON'T KNOW THE BOARD, BUT, UH, AND UH, THE GUY TRUCK THAT CAUGHT ON FIRE, THAT'S A GUY NEXT DOOR.
HE SAID SOMEBODY CAME THROUGH A BRICK CUZ HE WAS TRYING TO OPEN UP A CAR WARS, TRYING TO DO SOME LEGITIMATE AND UH, LIKE I SAID, I WAS YOUNG AT ONE TIME AND UH, LIKE I KNOW ALL THE YOUNG GUYS AROUND THERE AND UH, I LIKE TO CALL MYSELF A ROLE MODEL TO BE YOUNG GUYS.
I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR 15 YEARS.
UH, AND MY JOB, I'M A SUPERINTENDENT NOW.
AND UH, THE YOUNG GUYS AROUND THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK UP TO ME, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, I USED TO BE YOUNG LIKE THEM AND KNOW, UH, AND NOW THEY SEE ME TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, TRYING TO OPEN SOMETHING.
UH, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SHOW THEM GUYS, YOU KNOW, YOU AIN'T GOTTA BE AROUND HERE, UH, DOING, CALLING ALL THIS MISSION, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU CAN DO STUFF IN A LEGAL WAY, YOU KNOW, AND NO, I'M NOT TRYING TO, CAUSE I'M NOT DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA KNOW HOW TO BE SCARED.
IF I GOTTA HIRE POLICE OFFICERS TO PATROL, I KNOW A COUPLE OF THEM.
YOU KNOW, IF I GOTTA HIRE PATROL IN, IN, UH, WORKING OUT, I'LL DO THAT.
ANYTHING THAT MAKE Y'ALL FEEL SAFE, UH, I GET ON Y'ALL BOARD, WORK WITH Y'ALL.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M TRYING TO UH, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING FOR MY FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, I AIN'T TRYING TO CALL NO PROBLEM.
I GOT YOUNG KID AND UH, I WANT HIM DOING RIGHT.
I WANT TO WANT HIM TO LOOK UP TO ME AND BE LIKE, LOOK MY DAD, YOU KNOW, GOT THIS GOING ON, YOU KNOW, DOING STUFF RIGHT.
GOT A WORKING JOB, GOT A BUSINESS, WANT MY DAUGHTER TO DO.
I WANT THEM TO GROW UP AND WALK THEM STREETS.
THE SAME STREETS I USED TO WALK TO, WALK TO BALL OUT, YOU KNOW.
SO MY SON GO TO GEO PREP AND I WANT THEM TO WALK ON THE STREETS TO FEEL SAFE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW ALL THE KIDS, ALL THE GUYS, THEY DO GOT PEOPLE TO HANG AROUND THERE, YOU KNOW.
AND UH, I DO KNOW THEM, YOU KNOW, UH, AND UH, EVERYBODY AIN'T BAD.
EVERYBODY JUST, CAUSE THEY HANGING OUT.
THEY, THEY AIN'T A BAD GUY, YOU KNOW, JUST, THEY JUST LOST, YOU KNOW.
AND SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO COME HANG IN A NICE ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW.
AND UH, LIKE I SAID, WE JUST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE.
WE AIN'T TRYING TO CALL NO MISSION OR WHATEVER, UH, STIMULATION.
WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HELP.
IF I NEED TO HELP WALK OUT THEM, PICK UP, UH, TRASH, I
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DO THAT AND I GET ALL THE GUYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DO THE SAME THING.YOU KNOW, IF I GOT, WHETHER WE GOTTA, HOW MUCH MONEY WE GOTTA PUT UP TO HELP INVEST IN WHATEVER THE BOARD, LIKE I SAID, I NEVER HEARD OF THE BOARD.
UH, BUT WHATEVER I GOTTA DO TO UH, MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL SAFER ON THERE, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I GOT TO SAY.
COMMISSION MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
COMMISSIONER ADDISON, YOU'RE FREE.
I HEARD ONE OF THE OPPONENTS OF THE APPLICANT TO STATE THAT THIS, UM, THIS ACTUALLY APPLICANT IS IN A BIG OF COMPLEX AND UH, WE ARE ONLY DOING WHAT, A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OF THIS PART OF THE COMPLEX FOR THE REZONING? OR ARE WE DOING ENTIRE 6,000 SQUARE FEET? HOW DOES WORK? NO, IT, IT, COMMISSIONER ADDISON IS, IT'S A, A VERY RESTRICTIVE ZONING.
IT REQUIRES A MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION, WHICH IS A LEGAL SURVEY OF THE FOOTPRINT THAT THEY'RE REZONING.
AND WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE IS, IS APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET.
THE 1200 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT IT'S REFERENCING.
BUT THE COMPLEX ITSELF, EVEN I SEE HERE, CAUSE I DON'T HAVE ON MY COMPUTER, I CAN'T PULL UP FOR SOME REASON I'M NOT EVEN TO PULL UP ACTUALLY DESCRIPTION OF THE ENTIRE, UM, AREA THAT IS SITTING IN A BIGGER, IN A BIGGER COMPLEX IN THE, IN THE AREA.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK I HEARD THE ONE OF THE OPPONENTS SAY THAT SOMEWHERE CAN TRIGGER THAT, WHERE OTHERS CAN ALSO COME BACK AND GET THAT.
IS IT THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THAT PARTICULAR COMPLEX AT 24 23 40 SHERWOOD FOREST? IS THAT A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT COMPLEX WHERE WE ARE DOING A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OUT OF IT? NO, IT WOULD JUST BE THIS, THIS SUITE.
SO THERE'S A MUCH LARGER COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER THAT EXISTS AND THIS IS, UH, THE MOST RESTRICTIVE AREA THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, APPLIED FOR.
ARE YOU ASKING COMMISSIONER EDISON IF THAT ACTUAL CENTER IS 6,000 SQUARE? YEAH, SIX.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
I KNOW APPLICANT NOT JUST THE PART THAT'S BEING RESOLVED.
THAT ONE SUITE, WHAT IS THE ENTIRE COMPLEX, DO YOU HAVE THAT AS A BOUNDARY? WE'RE PULLING THAT UP RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S, THAT SOUNDS AS WELL, LIKE AN APPROXIMATE SIZE OF THE STRIP CENTER.
ABOUT 6,000 FOR THE SCRIPT CENTER.
SO I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE, WHAT THE OPPONENT WAS STATING THAT, THAT IT LOOKS LIKE APPROXIMATELY 6,000 OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, THE, UH, PARKING AREA AND SOME STORAGE ADJACENT TO THAT IS A LITTLE LARGER.
BUT THE, THE STRIP MALL IS, IS APPROXIMATELY RIGHT AT 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND USUALLY NOW APPLICANT APPLICATIONS.
AND ARE THERE ANY SURROUNDING AREAS THAT ALSO, UM, ZONE AT THIS CATEGORY? UM, IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OR HOW MANY OF WE HAVE LISTED, AND I DO APOLOGIZE CAUSE I CAN'T PULL UP, BUT GENERALLY I CAN PULL UP ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM LEAVE IN ADVANCE.
THIS PROPERTY'S CURRENTLY ZONED C A B ONE, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, UH, IS A, IS A LOWER CATEGORY, WHICH IS ALLOWS RESTAURANT WITH ON-PREMISE ALCOHOL SALES CURRENTLY IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA THERE, THERE IS NO C A B TWO IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA ON THE VICINITY MAP.
NOW I IF THE APP CAN COME BACK, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OF YOU GUYS AND, UM, HEY BUDDY.
UM, WOULD YOU NOT AGREE, YOU'D SAY YOU, YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU LIVED ON STAND THAT, THAT THE RESIDENCE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOODS KIND OF WORKING TO AS BEST THEY CAN TO REDUCE THE ADDITIONAL PROLIFERATION OF ALCOHOL IN THE AREA THAT ALCOHOL DOES LOAN TO A GREATER ISSUE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD SOMEWHAT AGREE THAT THAT IS A, THAT IS A LONG TERM CHALLENGE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT WHEN PEOPLE LOOK TO IMPOSE ADDITIONAL ALCOHOL SALES IN THE AREA, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE DOING A LOUNGE, NOT A, NOT A PACKAGED LIQUOR SALE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, SO, UH, TO ME THE ALCOHOL IS NOT THE PROBLEM NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS THE DRUGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I'M ALL THE WAY AGAINST, LIKE I SAID, I GOT KIDS, I WANT THEM TO BE GREAT AND I'M TOLD AGAINST THE DRUGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND UH, LIKE I SAID, I SAID I THINK IT'S A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.
I, I REALLY AIN'T EXPECT HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE OPPOSED, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE, I GOT A LOT OF GOOD, UH, STATEMENTS FROM PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT LIKE THEY WITH IT, YOU KNOW? AND I, LIKE I SAID, I AIN'T EXPECT TO COME UNPREPARED, BUT, UH, THE PROBLEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A DRUG.
LIKE I SAID, I GREW UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND UH, IT'S THE DRUGS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S IN THE ALCOHOL.
LIKE I SAY, UH, WE WON'T BE OPEN, UH, STORE SCHOOL WALLS.
LIKE I SAY, MY SON, HE GO TO JAIL PREP.
MY NIECE AND MY UH, GUARD DAUGHTER, THEY WORK AND THEY, UH, GO TO THAT, UH, DAYCARE.
MY SISTER ALSO GOT A DAYCARE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, UP
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ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW.AND, UH, WE WON'T BE OPEN AROUND NO MALL.
AND UH, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW LOCAL POLICE OFFICER THAT PATROL THERE, I CAN TALK TO HIM, HAVE IN COURT.
I COULD ALSO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER OUT THERE.
WHY WE WORKING, LIKE I SAID, I COULD GET ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING Y'ALL WANT, Y'ALL, UH, WANNA WORK OUT, WE CAN WORK.
I PUMP THERE, PICK UP TRASH, ANY ANYTHING TO HELP, HELP.
ADDITIONAL, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? YES.
COMMISSIONER BANKS, UM, THE APPLICANT, PLEASE, I NOTICED YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE, UM, SURPRISED BY THE OPPOSITION.
UM, USUALLY WHEN THERE'S A BI, AND I'M SPEAKING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A, OF A COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL.
WHENEVER, UM, THERE'S A BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO REZONING, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF WILL TELL THE APPLICANT IS TO GO TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
DID YOU DO THAT OR WERE YOU ADVISED TO DO THAT? UH, MY WIFE ACTUALLY, UH, I BELIEVE SHE, SHE SPOKE TO HIM.
LIKE I SAID, I WORK OUT OF TOWN, WORK A LOT, BUT YOU WANNA COME UP HERE? MY WIFE DO A LOT OF THE FOOTWORK FOR ME.
SO WHO, SO IS THIS YOUR WIFE? YES, MA'AM.
AND I DID SPEAK WITH, UH, DON CLE, CLEVE, JOHN JR.
AND HE DID TELL ME WE HAD HIS SUPPORT, BUT HE DID ADVISE ME IF SO MANY PEOPLE COME OUT AND AGAINST IT, HE HAVE TO STICK WITH THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM.
HE, HE CALLED ME, WELL HE, SOMEONE FROM HIS OFFICE CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THAT PEOPLE WAS, YOU KNOW, AGAINST IT.
AND HE JUST ASKED ME IF WE STILL WANT TO COME GO THROUGH WITH IT AND WE TOLD HIM.
UM, SO USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IS THEN WE, IF ESPECIALLY WE HAVE A CRIME DISTRICT, UM, IF WE HAVE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THEY TOO WILL BE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNOW.
AND APPARENTLY THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE, UM, COUNCILMAN DUNN ABSOLUTELY 100% IS AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
UH, AND IT IS DUE TO THE OVERWHELMING, UM, OPPOSITION, UH, USUALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT HE'S A CHAMPION FOR MANY OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND ADULT FUND BUSINESSES.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I HAVE TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO DECLINE.
DO WE DECLINE? DENY DENIED YOUR PERMIT? MM-HMM.
OH, SO YOU HAVE NO, NO REAL INVESTMENT.
YOU WANTED TO DO THIS? JUST WANT, UM, WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
WE WERE JUST GONNA SELL LIQUOR.
IT STILL WILL BE A LOUNGE THOUGH.
NO, I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS YOUR BRICK AND MORTAR, BUT YOU WOULD LEASE IT FROM THAT.
SO YEAH, I THINK, UM, IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE, YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO START WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND FIND OUT WHAT WILL IT TAKE.
I CAN TELL YOU NOW, I ASKED FOR PLANS, I, AND A CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENT WHERE IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE THE SAME BUILDING.
SO I AM MAKING A MOTION, UM, THAT WE DENY THE PERMIT TONIGHT.
COMMISSIONER MEMBERS, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS TO DENY THIS ITEM.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
I BELIEVE THERE'S ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AGAIN FROM, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
I'M, I'VE, UH, I'VE LISTENED TO THE, TO THE DEBATE AND MY, UH, MY CONCERN IF EVEN IF YOU'VE GOT APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD, THIS COMMISSION, YOU STILL HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE, UH, YOU HAVE TO GET A WAIVER FROM THE, UH, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE FOLKS.
AND YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO SCHOOLS, DAYCARE CENTERS.
EVEN IF WE APPROVE, I'M NOT SURE YOU COULD GET THAT.
THE OPPOSITION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUITE LARGE.
WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T MAKE PLANNING DECISIONS BASED ON JUST WHO SHOWS UP.
HOWEVER, THIS DOES SEEM TO BE AN OUTLIER.
UM, I'M LOOKING AROUND, I DON'T SEE ANY MORE CA TWO S I KNOW SOMEONE MADE A COMMENT THAT, UM, YOU WANTED SOMEPLACE OR SOMEONE WANTED SOMEPLACE THAT THEY COULD SOCIALIZE.
YOU, YOU APPARENTLY, YOU, YOU HAVE A MISTAKEN MR. DIRECTOR, THEY COULD OPEN A RESTAURANT HERE BY WRIGHT,
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CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.UM, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPEN A RESTAURANT, UH, UM, AND YOU COULD SERVE ALCOHOL IN THERE.
UH, THAT COULD BE A PLACE THAT YOU COULD HAVE AS A COMMUNITY FOCUS FOR SOCIAL, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, FOR PEOPLE TO SOCIALIZE AND BRING THEIR FAMILIES.
SO I, I'M GOING TO, UH, I I'M GOING TO, UH, UH, I'M GONNA SUPPORT, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS, UH, AND, UH, AND WE'LL, WE'LL VOTE TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, WE WE'RE CERTAINLY, UH, ALWAYS IN SUPPORT OF ANYONE THAT'S TRYING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILD A BUSINESS OR BUILD AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT THEY THINK CAN BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
SOMETIMES WE MAY DISAGREE ON WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS IN MIND, UH, WOULD HAVE THAT EFFECT, BUT, UH, NEVERTHELESS, IT'S NEVER OUR INTENTION TO, UH, KILL ANYONE'S DREAMS. AND WE CERTAINLY, UH, HOPE THAT YOU FIND, UH, YOU KNOW, MEANINGFUL WAYS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PURSUE THOSE, UH, DREAMS, MEANINGFUL AND EFFECTIVE WAYS TO DO THAT.
HOWEVER, I DO SHARE IN SOME OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS BY MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THE ITEM, UH, THAT WAS MENTIONED OF THE PROXIMITY, OBVIOUSLY, TO THE SCHOOL IN DAYCARE.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE YET, WE'RE AT THE REQUEST HERE, IS TO CHANGE TO A ZONING, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF YOUR TENSIONS DOES HAVE, UH, THERE THE POSSIBILITY OF AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY DOES EXIST.
UH, THAT'S BEEN STRONGLY ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, THEY, THEY HOLD A STRONG OPINION THAT THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, MOST LIKELY OUTCOME.
SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE UNABLE TO SUPPORT THIS ITEM, UH, AS WELL.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS TO DENY THIS ITEM.
THAT MOTION RECEIVED A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT MOTION? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN DENIED.
[7. Case 25-23 2106 Perkins Road ]
TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CASE 25 23, 21 0 6 PERKINS ROAD CASE 25 23, 21 0 6 PERKINS ROAD.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PERKINS ROAD, SOUTH OF PLINY STREET COUNCIL, DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN.
FUTURE BR, LAND USE DESIGNATION IS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, A ONE WITH A REQUESTED ZONING OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL NC CASE 25 23, 21 0 6.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICE HAS RECEIVED TWO MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD, NOT TAKE SEED.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
UM, I'M THE APPLICANT FOR THE, UM, THIS ITEM.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, CONVERT THIS PROPERTY, UM, TO A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IN HOPE TO BRING MORE HEALTHCARE AND SERVICE AMENITY OPTIONS TO THIS AREA.
AS A CURRENT BUSINESS OWNER IN THIS SUBDIVISION, I AM PERSONALLY CONNECTED TO THIS AREA AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONTINUE TO GROW, AND I LIKE TO, UM, I HOPE TO BE A PART OF IT.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE IN FAVOR BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
THOSE ARE FOR COLIN KREGAN, HENSLEY KREGAN AND ZOE MARCEL.
WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKER CORDS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT, UH, FOR THIS, UH, TIME, MA'AM.
UH, AND, UM, YOU'LL HEAR FROM MY, UH, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A HUNDRED OAKS EDITION, UH, RESIDENTIAL PLAN.
OKAY? SO, AND WE ARE, YOU KNOW, OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL REZONING.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I LIVE ON HO STREET, AS I MENTIONED, AND ON EACH SIDE OF THAT STREET, WHICH IS LESS THAN REALLY 15 FEET, UH, FOR A PATHWAY TO DRIVE ON, THERE IS PERKS COFFEE IN HARMON'S FLOWER SHOP.
AND THEN RIGHT DOWN FROM THAT IS PALS IS A DANCE STUDIO.
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MANY TIMES WHEN I COME HOME, I CAN'T EVEN DRIVE DOWN HORAS OFF PERKINS TO GET TO MY HOUSE.WHY? BECAUSE ON PERKS COFFEE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THESE BIG PICKUP TRUCKS THAT EXCEED, THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING SPACES, AND THEY, THEY'RE INTO THE PATHWAY TO GO DOWN.
SO YOU, YOU, YOU CAN'T GO DOWN.
I HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER ENTRYWAY, ENTRYWAY IN.
I SEE THE SAME THING WHAT HAPPENED WITH PLINY, UH, AND PERKINS, IF YOU PUT A BUSINESS THERE, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK.
THEY HAVE TO PARK, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE STREET YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS.
NOW, WE DO HAVE OTHER WAYS IN, BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS YOUR OWN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FROM THE STREET THAT YOU LIVE ON.
SO HENCE, THAT'S THE ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I'M OPPOSED TO ANOTHER BUSINESS, UH, OPENING ON, UH, PERKINS INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR AMY DEWITT.
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE POET'S CORNER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
POET'S CORNER IS OUR BRANDED NAME, WHICH WE GOT THROUGH WORKING WITH THE MID-CITY REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION.
UM, BUT IT'S ADDITION, UH, HUNDRED OAKS.
UM, I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU ONLY GOT TWO LETTERS OPPOSING THIS, BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE SENT LIKE, MULTIPLE LETTERS.
SO REALLY, DID YOU ONLY GET TWO LETTERS, EMAILS, TWO.
UM, DID YOU GET A COPY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, MA'AM? PLAN IF YOU COULD, UH, JUST MAKE YOUR, MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
DID YOU GET A COPY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN? I MEAN, THIS, THIS GENERALLY ISN'T A, A QUESTION AND ANSWER, UH, PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT IF YOU, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
COULD I PASS THAT AROUND TO YOU OR IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH COPIES? YES, MA'AM.
YOU CAN HAND IT TO, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON RIGHT THERE AND THEN YOU HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE 45 LEFT.
UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, IN 2008 FOUGHT A REZONING ON THIS IDENTICAL PROPERTY WHEN WE WERE STILL UNDER THE HORIZON PLAN.
UM, OUR CONCERNS TODAY ARE THE SAME FUTURE EBR R UH, VISION INDICATES THAT THEY WANNA SEE THRIVING, REVITALIZED NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, USING SMART GROWTH CONCEPTS.
WE HAVE REVITALIZED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE WALKABILITY, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF HOUSING AND A MIX OF SUPPORT BUSINESSES AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST.
WE, UM, GO TO THOSE BUSINESSES.
THEY SUPPORT US WHEN WE'RE DOING NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS, BUT WE HAVE ENOUGH, THERE ARE MANY BUSINESSES THERE.
WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES.
UH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, SURFACE DRAINAGE.
ANYBODY WHO'S DRIVEN DOWN PERKINS ROAD AFTER HEAVY RAIN KNOWS THAT THERE'S STANDING WATER AND THAT IS BACKED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THERE IS MORE PAVING FOR PARKING, THAT INCREASES THAT, UH, POSSIBILITY.
WE LOVE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
IT'S PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL, UH, AREA.
AND THIS BLOCK IS ONLY RESIDENTIAL ON IT, AND IT'S A CORNER.
SO THAT JUST SEEMS TO BEGIN THE PROGRESS OF OTHER REQUESTS FOR REZONING IN THERE.
UM, PERKINS IS ALSO THE FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL OF OUR STREETS GO ONTO PERKINS.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN GET OUT.
AND I'M SORRY MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.
UH, NEXT COURT IS FOR MR. GK JR.
UM, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1992.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF, UM, EVOLUTION, BUT I THINK MOSTLY AS AMI HAD MENTIONED, IS REALLY MOSTLY A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UM, PORTS CORNER IS A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S GOT A VERY PLEASANT, DELICATE BALANCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND A ONE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH COMMERCIAL USE.
CURRENTLY MAKING UP ABOUT 6.5% OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT'S A VERY SMALL KIND OF A SEGMENT ALREADY.
UM, BUT WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT THE LOT THAT'S GONNA BE UP UNDER REVIEW FOR REZONING IS SURROUNDED
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ENTIRELY BY A ONE ZONING ON EVERY SIDE OF IT.AND SO WHAT I'VE KIND OF DID IS, I KNOW I REVIEWED THE, UH, UDC AND WHEN IT LOOKED AS THOUGH IS THAT WHEN THE REZONING WOULD OCCUR FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD PRODUCE AN INCOMPATIBLE ZONING KIND OF A, UH, YOU KNOW, LOT TO LOT CONSIDERATION SO THAT YOU WOULD END UP HAVING TO HAVE A, UH, 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER YARD.
THE LOT BEING THE SIZE THAT IT IS SO SMALL, I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE REALLY WOULDN'T NEED BE ROOM FOR PARKING.
UH, BASED ON WHAT I NOTICED HERE, NOT GONNA PASS THIS AROUND HERE, HERE IN A FEW MOMENTS, IS IT LOOKED LIKE WE WOULD BE GOING FROM ONE, ONE PARKING SPACE IN ITS CURRENT USE TO SEVEN BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF USE THAT IT WOULD BE GOING TO.
UM, I THINK WITH THIS IN MIND AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER REQUIRED, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD REALLY WORK.
THEN BEYOND THAT, I, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS OF A, OF A CERTAIN AGE WHERE THE, THE STREETS ARE VERY NARROW.
UH, AND WHEN I SAY NARROW, I'M TALKING ABOUT 14 AND A HALF FEET WIDE.
SO SOMETIMES, AS LAWRENCE WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, IT'S CAN BE HARD FOR TWO CARS TO PASS AT THE SAME TIME.
THERE IS NO ABILITY TO PARK ON THE STREET.
SO THE CONCERN WOULD BE IS THAT WHATEVER A PARKING EXTRA LOAD WOULD BE GOING FROM A, A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TO A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WOULD CREATE SOME PARKING CHALLENGES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK BASED ON THIS, I'M, I OPPOSE WHAT IS BEING PURSUED AS A REZONING AND WOULD HOPE THAT Y'ALL WOULD DO THE SAME.
ONE THING I WOULD ASK IF, IF, IF I COULD IN THIS MOMENT IS THAT I DID NOTICE THE PLAN COMMISSION HAD MADE SEVERAL OTHER LOTS THAT ARE A ONE ZONING CURRENTLY AND HAVE KIND OF MARKED THEM FOR A FUTURE USE TO BE COMMERCIAL.
AND I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO AT LEAST RECONSIDER THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE, UM, WE NEED MORE HOUSES IN THIS AREA.
IN TRUTH, WE'VE GOT PLENTY COMMERCIAL.
I'M GONNA PASS THIS AROUND TO, UH, YOU ALL THERE.
THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
SO, AND, AND LET ME EXPLAIN ABOUT I'M, I'M CONTROL MM-HMM.
SO I WANT THAT TO BE MADE KNOWN.
BUT MY PURPOSE HERE TONIGHT IS TO MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT I HAVE NOT HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ANYBODY OTHER THAN TWO PERSONS THAT CALLED ME AFTER ALL OF THE RUMBLINGS STARTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THIS.
AND I HAD ONE CONVERSATION WITH THE OWNERS AND I DID SAY TO THEM TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS IN PURSUING THIS, WHICH THEY WANTED TO PURSUE.
COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN, WE HAVE SEVERAL ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CALLS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
I'LL READ THOSE NAMES IN FOR THE RECORD.
ROBERT NASH, JUDITH NASH, AMY PEARL, LAWRENCE BUTCHER, PHILLIP DUNLAP, LAUREN LUQUETTE, MARTY HORN, RICHARD COCHRAN, EMILY BLASER, CALEB FONT KNOW, AND ROBERT FONT, I'M SORRY, ROBIN FONT KNOW AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
SO, UM, A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS CONCERN IS PARKING LOT.
SO WE DID LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
WE WERE NOT PARKING ON THE STREET.
SO OUR LAND, WE WILL HAVE, UM, AT LEAST FIVE PARKING SPOT AND WE CAN GO UP TO SIX OR SEVEN CUZ WE DO HAVE THE, THE SPACE.
UM, I DON'T SEE IT'S GONNA GET IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE WAY OF ANYBODY DRIVING BACK AND FORTH.
CAUSE WE ARE NOT GONNA PARK ANYWHERE ON THE STREET.
UM, AND ALSO WE DO APPOINTMENTS OF, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A A CLINIC, YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE IN AND OUT ALL THE TIME, YOU WILL HAVE THEM CONTROLLED.
UM, YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AND SO YOU COME, PEOPLE COME AND GO IN LIKE ONE OR TWO OR THREE CUSTOMER AT A TIME, PATIENT AT A TIME, BUT NOT LIKE A MARKET OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU GO IN AND YOU PARK EVERYWHERE.
I, I, I DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, I I WOULDN'T THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM WITH PARKING.
AND SO, SO I SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF TORN AND OLD, SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S VACANT.
AND SO ONE, WHENEVER I BOUGHT THE BUILDING AND, UM, I WAS GONNA SEE WHAT I'M GONNA DO WITH IT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE, UM, THAT COMING UP THAT WE ARE GONNA DO A, UH, CLINIC.
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UH, MENTIONED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.SHE MENTIONED THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, THE FEASIBILITY OF A LOWER ZONING.
IF, IF THEY WERE, THEY WERE TO SEEK TO CHANGE INSTEAD OF FROM GOING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION TO GO FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT WOULD BE A LESS INTENSIVE AND, UH, MORE RESTRICTIVE, UH, ZONING.
WOULD THAT STILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PURSUE THEIR INTEREST AS THEY'VE PRESENTED TO THIS COMMISSION? THAT'S CORRECT.
CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON, THE APPLICANT IS, IS REQUESTING ON THEIR APPLICATION NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UH, BUT THE SPECIFIC USE THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS ALLOWED IN A, A LOWER ZONING DISTRICT, NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE WOULD ALLOW, UH, A MEDICAL OFFICE OR CLINIC IN THAT.
SO THAT'S A MORE RESTRICTIVE ZONING.
UM, AND, AND, AND WOULD ALLOW WHAT THE APPLICANT, THEIR STATED INTENDED USE OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT, UM, MR. DIRECTOR, UH, THE COMMENT WAS MADE EARLIER CONCERNING BUFFERS AND PARKING.
IF THIS WAS, IF THIS DID BECOME NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OR NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THOSE, UH, BUFFER YARDS WITH RESIDENTIAL? THAT'S CORRECT.
THOSE ARE VALID CONCERNS THAT THE OPPOSITION DID RAISE.
UM, THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES BASED ON THE SMALL LOT SIZE AND THE CONFIGURATION OF THE, THE STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY, BUT BOTH PARKING AND THE REQUIRED BUFFER YARDS BETWEEN DIFFERENT USES IS, IS LOOKED AT AT THE PERMITTING STAGE.
UM, THE, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF THE REZONING PROCESS.
UH, IT, IT WHATEVER THIS BODY RECOMMENDS WOULD GO ON TO COUNSEL.
UH, AND IF COUNSEL WERE TO APPROVE EITHER NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL OR NEIGHBORHOOD TO OFFICE, UM, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE ENSURING THAT IT MEETS ALL CODES AND REGULATIONS AT THE PERMITTING OFFICE.
AND COULD THE, COULD THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD FOR A MOMENT? AND, AND I'M, I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS, BUT DID YOU, UH, IN, DID YOU REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO, TO DISCUSS WITH THEM WHAT, UH, WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS WERE? WERE? YES.
SO I REACH OUT TO LIKE, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, SO WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, DERMATOLOGY CLINIC, THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS AROUND THERE CAN BENEFITS FROM THE OFFICE.
THEY CAN WELL, BUT THE, THE, THE QUESTION COMES IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE, THERE WAS NO COMMUNITY MEETING ON THIS AT ALL.
THERE WAS NO COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT GOING TO A, A MORE RESTRICTIVE ZONING USE, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, I THINK NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UH, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN? UH, ME.
UM, I, I, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUFFER YARD AND PARKING, UH, CLARK, WHO I KNOW AND, UH, HAVE SOME GOOD OF RESPECT FOR, I THINK HE'S A, HE'S A, HE KNOWS WHERE HE IS TALKING ABOUT.
HE HAS RAISED ISSUES OF BUFFERS AND PARKING, UM, LOOKING AT THE SITE AND ACTUALLY WENT BY IT OVER THE WEEKEND.
BUT, UM, I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW ON, ON GOOGLE EARTH, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE SOME CHALLENGES TO MEET THAT.
I CAN IT BE DONE? PROBABLY, BUT THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO DECIDE.
I'M NOT HERE AS A, I'M NOT HERE AS AN ARCHITECT.
UM, SO, UM, SO WITH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A DRESS SHOP OR, YOU KNOW, A A A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS, I WOULD HAVE A VERY BIG CONCERN WITH THIS BECOMING A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT AS A DERMATOLOGY CLINIC, AS A HEALTHCARE CLINIC, WHERE YOU WILL HAVE FEW, YOU, YOU, YOU WILL NOT HAVE A HIGH TURNOVER OF CUSTOMERS.
I MEAN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I I I SEE THAT AS A VALID POINT YOU MAKE.
SO WITH THAT, UH, WHEN THE MOTION COMES, UH, I WILL, I WILL SUPPORT A, A MOTION TO GO TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND, UH, ALLOW IT TO MOVE FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND, AND, UH, SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH OF THE, UH, SPEAKERS WHO REPRESENTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
CAN THEY COME BACK UP THOUGH? PLEASE COME BACK UP IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I, I DID READ YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT YOU SENT IN.
WHEN WERE YOUR PLAN ACTUALLY ADAPTED BY YOUR ORGANIZATION? WHAT, UH, TWO IN 2010, TWO 10 JULY.
AND WE WORKED ON THAT WITH TARA WICKER AND PLANNING AND ZONING.
TO COORDINATE IT WITH FUTURE EBR R.
AND YOU ALL HAVE OPPOSED ANY, ANY CHANGES? I SAW THAT THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR KEY PARTS OF YOUR PLAN, THAT YOU HAD OPPOSED ANY, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND YOU WOULD ONLY
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ACTUALLY SUPPORT B ONE C ONE AND A ONE, UM, R A 83 3 RESIDENTIAL.SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY CATEGORIES OF ZONING THAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE SUPPORTING AND THAT THAT'S A PART OF YOUR FINAL IN READING YOUR DOCUMENT, UH, YOUR PLAN THAT IS TO BE ON PAGE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER OF PAGES.
I KNOW THE PAGE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
IT'S THE LAST PAGE UP AT THE TOP OF TOP OF THE PAGE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY CATEGORIES THAT YOU GUYS WOULD SUPPORT IN REGARDS TO ZONING IN, IN, IN THESE CATEGORIES HERE IS WHAT YOU'RE STATING.
AND IF THAT SOUNDS LIMITING, IT'S BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL MM-HMM.
I DID HEAR OTHER MEMBERS SPEAK ON OTHER THINGS THAT TRAFFIC AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SAY IN TERMS OF THE ZONING THAT DOES NOT INFRINGE UPON THE REDID ON THE, THE REMAINING ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS A BIG PROBLEM, BUT WE CAN'T SAY THE TERMINOLOGY IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY MIGHT NOT NEED THE SAME TYPE AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO BECAUSE WE GET A RIGID PLAN, BUT NO FLEXIBILITY IN IT, WE START SAYING, THIS IS IT NOTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP GOOD, WE JUST SAY THIS IS IT AND NOTHING ELSE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK THE QUESTION.
IS THERE ANY FLEXIBILITY OF THIS COMMUNITY TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING AS A, AS A RESTAURANT THAT MIGHT NEED 50 PARKING IN MASS AS AN INDIVIDUAL? YES.
I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THAT YOU KNOW, IT, IT DOES SOUND INFLEXIBLE AND WHAT SHE WANTS THERE IS SOUNDS REASONABLE.
HOWEVER, ONCE IT'S REZONED, IT'S REZONED AND THEN WE CAN'T GO BACK.
WHEREAS, BUT IF, BUT IF, BUT IF WE ARE DOING IT RESTRICTIVELY, I MEAN, CERTAINLY THE SAME THING APPLIES THAT IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, AND THIS STUFF'S GONNA FIT IN THEIR CATEGORY.
PLUS IN MOST CASES WHEN WE DO REZONE SOMETHING, THERE'S ALSO SOMETIMES LICENSES THAT NEED TO BE REQUIRED.
THERE'S PERMITS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND THINGS ALONG THAT NATURE.
SO WE, WE TAKE IT AS THE ZONING IS A PART OF THE PROCESS THAT GOES TO A WHOLE LENGTHY PROCESS.
IF I WANTED TO BUILD A CERTAIN KIND OF FACILITY, IF IT DON'T FIT IN THE CATEGORY OF THE ZONING, I CAN'T EVEN DO THAT.
BUT IT DON'T MEAN I CAN'T, I STILL HAVE TO GO GET A PERMIT.
IT DON'T MEAN I'LL STILL HAVE TO DO OTHER THINGS TO DO THAT AND MEET THOSE CRITERIA.
SO WHEN WE SAY IT'S A ZONING AND THAT THAT GIVES, IT OPENS IT UP, YEAH, THAT GIVES THE FOOTPRINT, BUT THAT DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA ACTUALLY GET.
NOR DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU MEET OTHER CRITERIA.
FOR EXAMPLE, MR. GR POINTED OUT THE POINT, THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW, YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS, YOU MAY NOT CAN GET A PARKING, PARKING SLOTS IN THERE.
IT DON'T MAKE NO DIFFERENT WHAT WE ZONED AS.
BUT THERE AGAIN, IF SHE WAS TO DO IT AND IT WAS ALLOWED TO, THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I DO AGREE THAT IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GONNA BE ENCROACHED UPON AND IT'S GOING TO, IT IS GONNA DO THAT, BUT, AND YOU ALL HAVE DONE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE NEIGHBORS TO DO, IS TO DO THESE TYPE OF PLANS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO STAND BEHIND THEM.
BUT THE QUESTION BECOMES, WHEN WE WRITE, WRITE A DOCUMENT IN 2010, IN 2020, WE STILL STANDING THERE SAYING NO, CUZ THAT'S WHAT WE WROTE IN 2010.
WE'RE NOT EVEN TO DO ANY OF THAT BECAUSE WE WROTE IT, WE HAD 20 OF US TO GET TOGETHER IN 2010, AND IN 2023, EVERYBODY SAYS, HERE'S OUR PLAN.
THAT, THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M ASKING.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE, THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO COME DOWN ON THEIR ZONE AND TRY TO MEET THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS.
THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE HAVE A MARRIAGE HERE TO SERVE A NEED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOES NOT COME IN? AND THE SAME THING.
WHEN THE NEIGHBORS CAME UP JUST A COUPLE OF APPLICATIONS AGO AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE UTTERLY OPPOSED TO THE, TO THE ZONING OF SOMETHING THAT THEY THOUGHT WAS EGREGIOUS TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS EGREGIOUS TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN WHY DO WE SAY, WELL, WE JUST GOT A DOCUMENT HERE AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
IS THERE ANY FLEXIBILITY AMONG THE, THE ORGANIZA ORGANIZED OPPOSITION THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT DOES THIS, IT DOES THAT, IT DOES THIS, IT DOES, OR WE JUST DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE WE GOT TOGETHER WITH FORMER COUNCILMAN WICKER AND THIS IS WHAT WE GOT, WE CAME UP WITH.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT IS THE, THE RULE OF THE LAND, BUT I THINK, BUT THIS, OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAD LIKE AN 84 5% BUY-IN ON THIS DOCUMENT.
LOOK, I I, I DON'T ARGUE YOUR DOCUMENT.
I, THE FLEXIBILITY OF YOU ALL TO SAVE WHETHER SOMETHING HAS AN IMPACT ON YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS EGREGIOUS, THE MAN WHO RAISED THE ISSUE ABOUT PARKING, THAT'S AN
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IMPACT.YOU SHOULD BE HAVING ACCESS TO IT.
YOU RAISING THE IDEA OF WE PASSED THE DOCUMENT, SO THE DOCUMENT STANDS NO, AND I DIDN'T, THAT'S THAT'S, I'M ASKING YOU FOR, I'M ASKING FOR THAT AS AN ANSWER, NOT ASKING FOR WHETHER OR NOT YOU DIDN'T ADOPT THE DOCUMENT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THAT'S YOUR ANSWER, I RESPECT IT.
IF SHE'S WILLING TO COME DOWN ON IT, YOU ARE WILLING TO SAY, WE ADOPTED A DOCUMENT IN 2000 WITH MRS. WICKER 2010.
IF THAT'S THE ANSWER, THAT'S THE ANSWER.
I THINK THAT WE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WOULD HAVE TO REEXAMINE WHAT, BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH WAS NOT NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE.
SO I THINK THAT WE WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD AS FAR AS WHETHER WE WOULD OPPOSE OR SUPPORT.
BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE GOING BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD US MEETING AND MEETING WITH OUR COUNCIL PERSON AND DISCUSSING THAT.
VICE CHAIRMAN GRUFF, UM, MR. DIRECTOR, CAN, CAN YOU QUICKLY GIVE A, UH, A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND WHAT IT, WHAT WOULD BE MORE RESTRICTIVE? WE SHOULD OFF JUST, JUST A GENERAL PURPOSE.
BOTH ARE LIMITED TO 2,500 SQUARE FEET BY RIGHT.
UH, ANYTHING BETWEEN 20 505,000 WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANY FUTURE EXPANSION.
UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OF OFFICE, NO ZONING, UH, RESTRICTS THE USES TO, TO JUST THAT TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICES.
UM, WHAT, WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS DESCRIBED, A MEDICAL OFFICE SLASH CLINIC WOULD FIT UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS THE NEXT STEP UP FROM THAT.
IT'S A MORE INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT THAT INTRODUCES RETAIL OF THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGES.
SO IT WOULD ALLOW, UM, STORES THAT SELL RETAIL PRODUCTS.
IT WOULD ALLOW CONVENIENCE STORES UP TO THAT SIZE AND ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE OF THAT SAME SIZE.
UM, JUST AS, AS A POINT, AND I, I WANT TO, UH, SAY SOMETHING THAT WITH WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON SAID, UH, HE AND I WERE BOTH, UH, WE'RE BOTH VETERANS AND SO YOU ALWAYS KNOW THAT, UH, NO PLAN EVER PASSES FIRST CONTACT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE, ADAPT, AND OVERCOME, WHICH IS THE WHOLE REASON THIS COMMISSION EXISTS.
SO I THINK THE IDEA OF A PLAN, WHILE GOOD IF YOU CAN'T, IF IT'S JUST INFLEXIBLE AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOU WAIVE IT AND IT'S DONE.
I, I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT IF THE, UM, IF THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO COME DOWN TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, I THINK YOU'VE SEEN SOME, UH, SOME WILLINGNESS TO COMPROMISE.
AND I THINK, UH, A, A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IN THERE, YOU MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S NOT A HOUSE.
I MEAN, UNLESS THEY PUT A BIG SIGN ON IT, YOU KNOW, WITH BIG LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING THAT SAYS DERMATOLOGY CLINIC, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY'LL DO.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT THE VISUALS THAT YOU WOULD SEE, I THINK WHAT CLARK RAISED IS A VERY GOOD VALID POINT, WHICH IS PARKING.
YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE PARKING TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, AND THAT MAY BE A PROBLEM.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK OUT AT, AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I AM GOING TO TACITLY MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UH, TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? UH, CAN I ASK HER A QUESTION BEFORE? YEAH.
WE'LL LET'S SEE IF WE, UH, IF THE MOTION, UH, STANDS AND THEN I'LL BE, UH, COMING DIRECTLY TO YOU.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STERLING, UH, COMMISSIONER BANKS.
UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, AND THIS IS GONNA PROBABLY BE VERY RELEVANT, UM, TO MR. ADDISON, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LOT, IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE, UM, A HOME THAT MY MOTHER BOUGHT ON THE CORNER OF, UH, CURTIS STREET AND WHATEVER TO SAY, HUH.
AND PAULINE, THE FRONTAGE WAS JUST LIKE THIS, WHICH WAS HARDING BOULEVARD COMMERCIAL ON BOTH SIDES.
THEN THE OTHER SIDE IS LIKE MIXED USE.
IT WAS A OLD HOUSE AND MY MOTHER TURNED IT INTO A LEARNING CENTER.
ALL THIS SIDE WOULD BECAME PARK.
IT WAS SHRUBBY JUST LIKE THIS.
THE FRONTAGE BECAME A PARKING LOT.
AND THE FA AND THE WORKERS THAT, UM, PARKED IN THE BACK, THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT LOOKED.
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THE FLEXIBILITY.AND I GUESS THE QUESTION ABOUT ZONING IS, UM, WHEN MY MOTHER CLOSED DOWN, IT REVERTED BACK TO RE WHERE PEOPLE RENT IT BECAUSE KATRINA CAME.
SO WITH RE WITH RESIDENTIAL AND, AND NOTHING ABOUT THE CHARACTER CHANGE RES WITH IT BEING RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL VERSUS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
CAN THIS GO BACK AND FORTH? WHICH ONE WOULD ALLOW IT TO BE RESIDENTIAL IF THAT BECOMES LEAVE? UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NO REVERSIONARY CLAUSE IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO LEGAL MECHANISM TO REVERT IT BACK.
UH, WOULD SHE HAVE TO OR IF, IF IT, IF SHE, IF THEY NEED TO USE THIS FOR RESIDE TO LEASE OUT TO A FAMILY.
SO SINGLE FAMILY, A RESIDENTIAL LAND USE IS ALLOWED IN THE ZONING THAT SHE REQUESTED A DROP DOWN.
SO SHE WOULD HAVE THAT OPTION BETWEEN EVERYONE.
SO MEAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR? I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MM-HMM.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNCIL THINK THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT ME ON NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, WE ARE OKAY WITH IT.
BECAUSE WE INDEED GONNA, UM, PUT IT INTO A DERMATOLOGY CLINIC RIGHT THERE SERVING THE, YOU KNOW, THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SO, UM, I MEAN IF, IF IT HASN'T BEEN, I MEAN THINK IT'S BEEN SECOND, I TOO WAS SUPPORT.
I ALSO AM SUPPORTING HER CUZ I'VE SEEN HER OTHER PROPERTIES.
AND I ALSO IN NORTH BATON ROUGE ON AIRLINE HIGHWAY, AND I ALSO OWN IN ZACHARY.
I ALSO OWN A PROPERTY ON PERKINS, WHICH IS LIKE THREE PROPERTIES DOWN.
UH, IT'S A BUSINESS RIGHT NOW.
SO YEAH, AND I'VE SEEN THAT SHE DOES NOT HAVE STEP ON MAKING IT, UM, SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY IS PROUD OF, IF THAT GIVES ANY HELP.
BUT, UM, I DEFINITELY WILL SUPPORT THIS ITEM BA IF, IF IT DOES COME TO A VOTE.
THANKS COMMISSIONER BANKS, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT, UH, TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE.
THAT MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER STERLING.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCU? THERE'S ONE OBJECTION, UH, NOTED OBJECTION FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THE ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED AS NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, CASE 27 23, 100, 307 AND 1 3 15 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY CASE 27 23 1 0 3 0 7, AND 1 0 3 15 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY WEST OF ARNOLD LANE.
COUNCIL DISTRICT 11 ADAMS. THE APPLICANT IS JIM TATUM.
FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMBAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS LIMITED, RESIDENTIAL A 3.1 AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, A ONE WITH A REQUESTED ZONING OF LIGHT COMMERCIAL LC TWO CASE 27 23 1 0 3 0 7, AND 1 0 3 15 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
FORTUNATELY, THIS ITEM HAS RECEIVED ONE MESSAGE OF OPPOSITION AND THAT'S WHY I WASN'T ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
I WILL NOTE TO THE APPLICANT THAT THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS.
AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF AND I'LL START WITH MA'AM AND MR. CHAIRMAN AND GENTLEMEN, I'M JIM TATUM.
UH, WE'RE LOCATED HERE IN BATON ROUGE 69 20 NORTH MERCHANT COURT REPRESENTING MIKE DENTI, WHO'S LOOKING TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY AND REZONE IT TO A, FOR A OFFICE, SORT OF A, A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND LARGER OFFICE, UH, COMPLEX.
IT'S LOCATED HERE, UH, ON JEFFERSON HIGHWAY ACROSS FROM THE JEFFERSON UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN ON THE, OR IF YOU'VE GONE BY THE SITE OR IF YOU SAW IN THE VIDEO, IT'S A, UH, UH, IT'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN IN A FAMILY FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS.
THE FAMILY LIVED THERE AND THEY, UH, ABANDONED THE PROPERTY EFFECTIVELY.
AND, UH, UH, IT'S IN DISREPAIR THE HOUSES THAT ARE LOCATED ON DISREPAIR.
AND IT'S A, ACTUALLY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU DRIVE BY AND AND MISS IT.
BUT, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND, AND,
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UH, CLEAN IT UP AND IT'S IN DIRE NEED OF CLEAN UP.AND SO THAT'S THE, THE PURPOSE OF OUR REQUEST FOR THE REZONING TO THE LC.
AND, UH, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS.
I KNOW, UH, RYAN HAD INDICATED THERE WAS ONE IN ONE, UH, EMAIL OF OPPOSITION.
I CALLED THAT INDIVIDUAL AND ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH HIS BOSS.
AND HE INDICATED TO ME THAT THERE WAS A, A REBUTTAL OR A, UH, A SECOND EMAIL SENT IN RETRACTING THEIR OPPOSITION.
THEY WEREN'T OPPOSED TO THE REZONING.
THEY WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ADDRESSED ANY DRAINAGE CONCERNS OF THEIRS.
SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP AND WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SCRS.
I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T CATCH YOUR MOUTH.
AND I BELIEVE THAT MOTION'S BEEN SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRMAN GR.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS ]
MOVE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMUNICATIONS, BEGINNING WITH DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS.JUST A REMINDER, YOUR NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, JUNE 19TH.
[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS ]
NOW MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.AND WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO CONGRATULATE THE LATEST EMPLOYER OF THE MONTH, YOLANDA DEREK IN THE CURRENT PLANNING DIVISION.
YOLANDA'S PROVIDED A VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEPARTMENT IN HER DUTIES.
SHE'S CONSISTENTLY DEPENDABLE AND SHE'S PUNCTUAL IN REPORTING THE WORK IN ALL OF HER ASSIGNMENTS.
YOLANDA DISPLAYS A POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND OVERALL WILLINGNESS TO ASSIST OTHER OTHERS.
SHE NEVER HESITATES TO STEP IN TO HELP WITH NEW TASKS WHEN OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ARE OUT OF THE OFFICE.
SHE RECENTLY HAS TAKEN ON THE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY OF REZONING APPLICATIONS AND PREPARING ZONING LETTERS.
SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING YOLANDA, AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO, BEFORE I, UH, ASK IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMENTS, I, I'D LIKE TO, UH, ASK THE DIRECTOR IF HE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE NEWEST, THE NEWEST MEMBER TO THIS, UH, COMMISSION.
I JUST WANNA, UH, WELCOME JODY BOYD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF HE WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
UH, HE REPRESENTS THE, UH, RURAL ZONING, RURAL PART OF THE PARISH OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
UH, I BELIEVE NEAR THE ZACHARY, UH, CITY LIMITS.
SO, UH, WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I JUST SAY THANK YOU, UH, DON'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THIS YET.
UH, THANK YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH Y'ALL.
SO, WELCOME COMMISSIONER BOYD.
AND, UH, IT TAKES EVERYBODY A LITTLE TIME TO GET USED TO IT, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION?
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON? SECOND BY VICE CHAIRMAN GRO.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.