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[00:00:06]

GOOD MORNING.

TODAY IS MONDAY, MAY 2ND.

UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE, UH, MUNICIPAL FIRE AND POLICE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD TO ORDER.

[1. Roll Call]

UM, MS. RULE, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, ROLL CALL? MAY 22ND, 2023.

MS. TRINA DORSEY.

PRESENT IS SHEILA LEWIS.

MR. JOHN SMITH.

PRESENT THE WILLIAMS PRESENT.

DR.

ROBINSON PRESENT.

ATTORNEY JOSH TARRAN.

PRESENT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS TIME I'D GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

SAYING NONE.

[2. Consider Motion to Approve Agenda]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS APPROVE THE AGENDA.

I HAVE TO REMEMBER THE POLICE WANT ADD, CORRECT? UH, I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT, WHAT DO YOU HAVE MISS? UH, STEPHANIE REBELS APPLICATION FOR, UH, FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER ONE.

I'D LIKE, I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD HER TO THE ELIGIBILITY LIST FOR FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

WHAT'S HER LAST NAME? STEPHANIE.

R E V E L F.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, YOU'RE ADDING HER TO THE AGENDA.

TO WHAT? TO ACCEPT.

ADDING HER TO THE AGENDA TO ACCEPT HER AS IN SCORE.

OKAY.

AND TO ADD HER TO THE ELIGIBILITY LIST.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED ITEM NUMBER 11.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE, UM, TWO APPLICATIONS FROM THE, UM, WELL, NOT APPLICATIONS.

UH, WE HAVE A REHIRE FOR, UM, A DEVON PAYNE SENIOR FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I PROPOSE THAT BE ITEM NUMBER 12.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TOO.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

I'M DEVIN PAYNE, SENIOR.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, MR. ROES.

R E W L S.

OKAY.

YES, I HAVE THAT.

UH, LA DARIUS ROES.

WOULD I PUT THOSE TOGETHER, OR ADAM DO 'EM SEPARATE? IT'S THE SAME DEPARTMENT.

YEAH.

YOU CAN DO 'EM ON THE SAME WITH JANIAH.

OKAY.

SO ITEM NUMBER 12 WOULD BE TO THE ADD THE REHIRE OF DEVIN PAYNE, SR.

AND LA DARIUS ROUSE.

BLESS YOU.

BLESS.

I WOULD ASK FOR ANY OTHER AGENDA MODIFICATIONS.

AND IF NOT, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE.

THE AGENDA IS AMENDED.

YEP.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, SECOND BY PRESS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

AND THAT WOULD REFLECT THAT NU ITEM NUMBER 11 BECOMES THE STEPHANIE REBELS TO ADD HER, UH, TO ACCEPT HER PASSING SCORE.

ITEM 12 WOULD BECOME TO ADD THE REHIRE OF DEVIN PAYNE, SR.

AND LARIS ROSS.

AND, UH, LEAVING NUMBER IT.

ITEM NUMBER 13, BEING ADJOURNED.

SO, UM, NOW YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.

MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

MOTION.

HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND BY PRESS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

UM,

[3. Consider Motion to Approve Minutes from April 24, 2023, meeting]

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE IS CONSIDERED A MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES FROM APRIL 24TH, UH, MEETING.

IT'S IN THE PACKET.

MOTION.

MOTION PLEASURE.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOTION TOE APPROVE BY MR. SMITH, SECOND BY PRESS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

UM,

[4. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Personnel Action Forms]

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS. I HAVE HERE PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS. YEP.

POLICE STAND.

FIRE.

YEAH, WE HAVE BOTH.

POLICE STAND FIRE.

AYE.

ANYBODY WANTS TO REVIEW 'EM? YEAH.

ANYBODY WANNA LOOK AT HIM? I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE SECOND, SECOND.

SECOND.

SECOND BY MS. DORSEY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

[5. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Applications]

UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT APPLICATIONS.

HOW MANY DO WE

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HAVE? THIS IS, WELL, THESE ARE SCORES.

THESE AREN'T APPLICATIONS.

SO DO WE, DID WE RECEIVE ANY APPLICATIONS? NO APPLICATIONS AT THIS TIME.

NOT THESE ALL SCORES FROM WHAT I HAVE, BUT NO APPLICATIONS.

UM, LET ME MAKE SURE NONE OF THE CORRESPONDENCES THAT I'VE RECEIVED TODAY.

OKAY.

NO, THESE ARE ALL PAS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE NO APPLICATIONS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO YES, WE HAVE NO APPLICATIONS.

SEE NONE.

WE MOVE ON.

ALL RIGHT.

[6. Consider Motion(s) to Approve or Reject Examination Results]

UH, CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE OR RE REJECT RESULT IN EXAMINATIONS.

NOW, HERE WE HAVE THESE, SO IF Y'ALL WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE, LOOK OVER THOSE, AND THEN MOVE.

THESE ARE EXAMINATIONS.

YEAH, THOSE ARE RESULTS OVER THE EXAMINED.

MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY MS. DORSEY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

[7. Consider Motion to Call for Examinations in Police Department - Police Criminal Information Specialist]

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A MOTION TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, POLICE.

WE HAVE A POLICE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. DORSEY.

SECOND.

SECOND BY JOHN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

UM,

[8. Review and Discuss Petition for Appeal filed by Thomas H. Wallace - Fire Department]

REVIEW AND DISCUSS PETITION FOR APPEAL FILED BY THOMAS H. WALLACE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, MR. KERSHAW AND MS. UH, DON GIO WILL BE THE ATTORNEY'S OF RECORD.

UH, THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR OUR AUGUST REGULAR MEETING.

SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SCHEDULING THE APPEAL.

THE APPEAL IS TIMELY SUBMITTED.

UH, IT MEETS THE, THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

SO I, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE SCHEDULE IT FOR AUGUST 28TH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU.

SECOND.

SECOND BY MS. TRINA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

WHAT DATES DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE? AUGUST 28TH.

AUGUST 28TH.

THAT'S WHAT THEY AGREED ON.

THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL JUST DID THE MOTION ON.

OKAY.

THAT WAS OKAY.

I DUNNO.

WE HAD,

[9. Review and Discuss Notice of Appeal filed by John Dauthier - Police Department]

OKAY.

UM, MOVING ON TONIGHT, ITEM NUMBER, UH, NINE, REVIEW AND DISCUSS APPEAL FILED BY JOHN DELK OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU RECUSE YOURSELF.

OKAY.

UH, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO VOLUNTARILY, UH, RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ACTUAL ITEM AND THE PROCEEDINGS GOING FORWARD.

YEAH.

AND THE PROCEEDINGS GOING FORWARD.

SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK WHAT THAT'LL DO IS MAKE, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN DR.

ROBINSON, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AGENDA.

I, OKAY.

UH, GENTLEMEN, SO WE HAVE THE, UM, THE PETITION OR THE NOTICE OF APPEAL.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THIS ONE.

I DON'T KNOW.

UH, WHO WANTS TO ADDRESS FIRST? HEY, CLIFF, TANYA.

MIC IS YOUR MIC? IS MIC ON? GREAT.

THERE WE GO.

THANK YOUR HONOR, I HAD OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH MR. RAINS, WHICH YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT, UH, EARLIER.

UM, AND NE NEITHER OF US, UH, HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU PROPOSE AS FAR AS ADVISING THE BOARD TO SET, UH, WHETHER THIS IS AN APPEALABLE MATTER, UH, FOR A HEARING ON A FUTURE DATE.

OKAY.

UH, SO BOARD, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THIS IS AN APPEAL.

UH, THE PERSON WHO'S APPEALED IS NO LONGER WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO IT KIND OF PRESENTS SOME UNIQUE ISSUES.

SO WHAT I'VE SUGGESTED TO THE ATTORNEYS IS, IS THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY BRIEF THE ISSUES AND COME PRESENT TO US WHY THIS MATTER SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE APPEALED AT A LATER DATE.

YEAH, THAT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME.

YEAH.

SO I GUESS RIGHT NOW WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT, UH, A TIME TO DO THAT.

I WANT TO SAY THAT SOMEONE TOLD, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO, THAT THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE FOR JUNE.

I DON'T.

OKAY.

THAT'S ME.

YEAH.

GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, I, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THERE'S NO RUSH, BUT I MEAN, SURE.

THERE, THERE'S NO PENDING OR, OR, OR DISCIPLINARY ACTION.

WE'RE UNDER, SO THE JULY DATE'S FINE.

DO WE HAVE AN OPEN DATE IN JULY? YES.

CAN WE SET IT FOR JULY? YOU CAN'T TALK.

OH, UM, JULY SHOULD BE FINE.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN APPEAL SCHEDULED FOR JULY 24TH.

24TH.

YEAH.

24TH.

JULY 24TH.

YEAH, JULY 24TH.

I WOULD THAT DAY.

UM, SEPTEMBER 25TH, AND IT HAS TO BE SEPTEMBER 9TH, 25TH.

Y'ALL, Y'ALL.

YES.

[00:10:01]

DIDN'T WE JUST DO SOMETHING ARGUING? WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST GONNA BE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, IT'S APPEALABLE.

SO I I THINK WE COULD PUT IN, COULD BOTH.

YEAH.

ALL DON'T ARGUE, ARGUE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AUGUST 28TH, THEN.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IN THAT CASE THEN, THE APPEAL FROM JOHN DOLEY IS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 28TH AT OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE.

AND JUST SO THE RECORD CLEAR, IT'S WHETHER, IT'S NOT THE APPEAL, BUT, UH, THE, THERE'S A MOTION WHETHER WE HEAR CONCERNING WHETHER HE HAS THIS IS AN APPEALABLE ISSUE TO THE BOARD.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A BRIEF, SO I, I WAS GONNA, SO THAT THAT DOES MAKE SENSE.

UM, NO.

SO CONSIDERING MR. IVY, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES SEEKING THE APPEAL, UH, WOULD 30 DAYS PRIOR BE ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO OF COURSE, YEAH.

AND THEN 15 DAYS PRIOR FOR YOU, MR. RAINES, AND THAT'LL GIVE US ALL TIME TO REVIEW IT.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GREAT.

SO WE'LL REVIEW THAT ON AUGUST 28TH, 2023.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN AND LADIES.

OKAY, I'LL RETURN THE CHAIR TO CHAIRMAN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[10. Hear and Decide Appeal Concerning Billy Mattingly]

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10, IS TO HEAR AND DECIDE THE APPEAL CONCERNING BILLY MADLY .

GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THOMAS STEWART, ON BEHALF OF MR. MADDEN LEE.

UH, I DID REACH OUT TO MR. RAINES THIS MORNING AT, I WAS CONTACTED EARLIER THIS MORNING BY MY CLIENT THAT HE AND HIS CHILDREN BOTH HAVE FEVER WITH STREP THROAT, WHICH I WOULD ASSUME WAS CONTAGIOUS.

MY BOYS ARE GROWN, BUT AT THAT TIME, SO I ADVISED MR. RAINS, SO WOULD BE MOVING FOR A NEW DATE, UH, TALK TO HIM AND TO THE MR. DAR RELATIVE TO THAT ISSUE.

WE JUST, IF WE COULD JUST PICK A DATE, UH, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO, AT THIS POINT, HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, WITHIN THIS MONTH TO GO AHEAD AND CLEAR IT UP.

WHAT, I KNOW YOU HAD A JUNE, JULY CONFLICT WITH YOU.

LET ME KNOW WHAT DATES Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I, SO I'M, I, I THINK AS FAR AS MR. MADLEY, IT'S NOT GONNA, HE IS RIGHT NOW GAINFULLY EMPLOYED, SO, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS MATTER STILL NEEDS TO GO FORWARD.

UM MM-HMM.

, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE WHEREVER DATE IS CONVENIENT TO THE COURT.

RIGHT.

I, I'M ASSUMING GUYS WERE READY TO, TO ROCK AND ROLL TODAY, SO YES, SIR.

I, I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO GET SOMETHING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO FORGET ALL THIS AND LEARN IT AGAIN.

.

SO IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING NEXT WEEK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD IN YOUR SCHEDULES.

IT'D BE BEST UPON YOU GUYS AVAILABILITY.

YEAH.

NEXT MONDAY THE 29TH.

WE'LL TALK, LETS MEMORIAL DAY.

MAYBE THAT WEEK'S NOT, WHAT ABOUT THAT FIRST FULL WEEKEND GYM? I'M OUT.

YEAH, I'LL BE GONE.

YOU'LL BE GONE SECOND TOO.

WHAT ABOUT GOING BACK TO THAT, UH, TUESDAY? YOU KNOW ABOUT NEXT TUESDAY? MM-HMM.

THE 30TH OF JUNE.

MAY.

MAY.

OH, MAY.

I'M GOING THE FIFTH THROUGH THE NINTH AND THE 12TH THROUGH THE 16TH.

SENT ME LIKE THE 20TH, 21ST.

I THINK THE 19TH.

THE HOLIDAY, THE 21ST.

21ST IS OUT 21ST.

I HAVE ALL ACTUALLY 21ST.

I'LL BE OUT, I'LL BE OUT A LAW PARTNER.

HAVE IT.

I'LL BE IN CHICAGO.

UH, YEAH, THE REST OF THAT 2020 FIRST THROUGH THE 25TH.

I'LL BE BACK THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY.

AND THE 26TH.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONE.

[00:15:01]

WHAT WAS THAT, THE 31ST OR THE FIRST? OH, THANK YOU.

WHAT ABOUT THE 30TH? UH, 31ST.

I'VE GOT DEPOSITION.

WHAT ABOUT THE 1ST OF JUNE? I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

I THINK SOMEONE SAID THEY WERE OUT ON JUNE 2ND.

JUNE 2ND, RIGHT.

FRIDAY, JUNE 2ND.

MAY WORK.

I'M GOOD.

JUNE NEXT WEEK I'LL BE GONE.

I YOU'LL BE GONE.

I'LL BE GONE THE NEXT WEEK.

JUNE TWO WOULD WORK.

THE SECOND WILL WORK.

JUNE 2ND IS GOOD WITH EVERYBODY.

I GUESS I DO NEED TO SAY, TECHNICALLY WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU'ALL 10 DAYS NOTICE.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH WITH JUNE 2ND? I AM.

OKAY.

.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

THAT'S A FRIDAY.

SO FRIDAY.

THANKS BRO.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE ROOM'S AVAILABLE TOO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THINK WAIT ONE.

MAKE SURE LOSE ALL.

YOU WANNA, UH, SO WHAT I'D RECOMMEND RIGHT NOW IS A BRIEF FIVE MINUTE RECESS SO WE CAN CHECK THE AVAILABILITY OF THE ROOM AND COME BACK IF THAT'S OKAY.

ALL 10 30.

WE'RE GOOD.

THANK Y'ALL.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

UM, IT APPEARS THAT THE JUNE 2ND DATE AT THE SAME SCHEDULED 10 30 TIME IS AVAILABLE.

AND AT THIS TIME CAN WE, DO WE NEED A, A MOTION IN A VOTE? YES.

MOVE.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM PRESS YEAH.

TO CHAIN.

I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND FROM JOHN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

[Additional Item]

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON.

UH, THAT BRINGS US TO NUMBER 11.

THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE ITEM WITH STEPHANIE RES TO ADD HER ACCEPTED PASSING SCORE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

APPROVE AND ACCEPT.

STEPHANIE, USE YOUR MICROPHONE, JOE.

MY BAD.

A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE STEPHANIE BRAS, UH, PASSING SCORE 95% AND ADD HER TO THE ELIGIBILITY LIST FOR FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

SECOND BY MS. TRINA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION PASSES.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12.

IS THE, UH, TO REHIRE THE REHIRE OF DEVIN PAYNE, SR.

AND LA DARIUS RAW.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE DO HAVE LETTERS FROM THE, UH, POLICE CHIEF IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

I MAKE A MOTION HONOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. TRI.

IS THERE SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. SMITH.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT ONLY ADJOURNED.

YES, SIR.

WE DO HAVE SEVERAL APPEALS SCHEDULED.

WELL, WE HAD THREE APPEALS, UM, WHICH ONE WAS LAST MONTH AND ONE WAS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE, WHICH, WHICH SETTLED? RIGHT.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE ONE TODAY, OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST, IS THE ONLY THING WE HAVE ON OUR BOOKS.

IF I'M, AND MY QUESTION SIMPLY REVEALS AROUND WHETHER OR NOT WHEN WE HAVE IT ON SCHEDULE, WHETHER WE NEED TO TAKE SOME OFFICIAL YEAH, WELL, WE, WE USUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK WE HAD, UM, THE ONE, DO WE HAVE THE SIGNED DOCUMENT? BECAUSE I THINK WE WOULD, WE WOULD'VE DONE IT AT THIS MEETING FOR KAMALA.

THEY HADN'T.

OKAY.

SO WE WERE WAITING ON THAT BASED UPON, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SCHEDULED FOR JUNE, BUT WE DO DO THAT.

YES, SIR.

UH, MYRON, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE, THE, UH, YEAH, COME ON UP PLEASE.

UM, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING AT THE LANGUAGE OKAY.

ON, ON THE SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE JUST MISSING, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL OUTCOME.

I MAKE SURE WE GOT IT CORRECT.

YES, SIR.

MOST DEFINITELY.

SO NOBODY TO COME BACK LATER,

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CORRECT? YEAH.

UM, GOOD POINT.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT BRINGS US TI 13 ADJOURNMENT.

MAKE A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT, SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

SECOND BREATH, PRESS, PRESS.

THANK YOU.