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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR TONIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL.
MR. HOLCOMB, CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20TH MEETING? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ELLEN.
SECOND BY VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE OF THESE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE COMPREHENSIVE
[COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE]
PLAN OF UPDATE AND I WILL INVITE MR. LUENBERGER TO GIVE US THAT UPDATE.UM, I AM JEFFREY LUENBERGER, MANAGER WITH THE LONG RANGE PLANNING DIVISION AND I WAS JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT WE'RE GOING ON WITH FUTURE BR.
WE'VE JUST WRAPPED UP OUR, OUR FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHICH BASICALLY GAVE US A FOUNDATION TO GO BACK AND KIND OF DO SOME REVISIONS, UM, TO FUTURE VR TO GET SOME UPDATES TO THAT.
DURING THAT FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC WORKSHOPS, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 127 PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THE WORKSHOPS WITH 96 COMMENTS RECEIVED.
UM, OUT OF THE SURVEYS THAT WE DID, WE HAD 385 OF THOSE RETURNED.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED.
WE'VE GONE BACK, WE'VE MADE SOME COMMENTS ON THAT.
AND IN THE NEXT, UM, UPCOMING WEEKS, WE WILL BE HAVING OUR SECOND ROUND OF WORKSHOPS TO DO THAT FINAL, UM, FINAL COM COMMENT COLLECTION FOR THAT, FOR THOSE ROUNDS OF UPDATES.
UM, OUR NECK, OUR WORKSHOP, OUR FIRST WORKSHOP FOR THIS ROUND WILL BE HELD THIS WEDNESDAY AT THE GOODWOOD LIBRARY, AUGUST 23RD FROM FIVE O'CLOCK TO SEVEN O'CLOCK.
SO WE ARE INVITING EVERYBODY TO COME OUT FOR THAT.
UM, THAT'LL BE IN THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE PARISH.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE ONE IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PARISH AT JONES CREEK LIBRARY, UM, ON AUGUST 29TH.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE OF THE DELMONT GARDENS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PARISH ON SEPTEMBER 26TH.
SO WE JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET OUT, UM, PARTICIPATE, SUBMIT MORE COMMENTS, UM, AND AS ALWAYS, GO TO OUR PROJECT WEBSITE ON THE FUTURE VR WEBSITE, UM, PROJECT PAGE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE UPDATES HAVE OCCURRED.
AND, UM, BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WILL BE UP THERE AS WE GO.
SO IF YOU CAN'T MEET, MAKE THE MEETINGS, GO THERE, LEAVE COMMENTS, AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO DO SO AS WELL.
COMMISSION MEMBERS BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UH, WE HAD A, A MISTAKE WITH THE MINUTES, SO WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT.
UH, I STATED THE DATE WAS JUNE 20TH.
WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE JULY 17TH MEETING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LANDER? SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THE MINUTES ARE, HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT TO READ IN THE
[RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS]
RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ANY INTERESTED MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA MAY COMMENT IN PERSON AT CITY HALL 2 2 2 ST.
LOUIS STREET, BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA, 7 0 8 0 2 THIRD FLOOR, ROOM 3 48.
DURING THE MEETING, ALL COMMENTS WILL BE BROADCAST ON WWW.B.GOV ON METRO 21 COX, CHANNEL 21, AND AT T CHANNEL 99 AND ON THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE FACEBOOK PAGE VIA FACEBOOK LIVE.
COMMENTS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO 3:00 PM OF THE MEETING.
DATE WILL BE COMPILED BY POSITION FOR AND AGAINST AND THE TOTAL NUMBER WILL BE ANNOUNCED BEFORE THE ITEMS PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY INTERESTED PERSON WHO DOES NOT WISH TO COMMENT IN PERSON MAY USE THE FORM FOUND AT HTTPS SLASH WWW.B.GOV/PC.
APPLICANT AND APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPOSAL WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A PERIOD OF NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM SHOULD REFER TO A MEETING AGENDA AND FILL A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM.
ONCE THE ITEM IS ANNOUNCED, EACH PERSON'S NAME WHO IS FILLED OUT A FORM WILL BE CALLED ON TO SPEAK.
PROPONENTS WILL SPEAK, AND THEN THE OPPONENTS, EACH SPEAKER WILL NOT BE ALLOWED MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
SPEAKERS ARE REQUESTED TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS AND TO AVOID DUPLICATION OF THEIR PRESENTATION, APPLICANT WILL BE ALLOWED A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
THANK YOU VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT, WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA MR.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
MORAN.[00:05:01]
UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR WITHDRAWAL.ITEM NUMBER 17 CASE 48 DASH 23 T 1700 INNOVATION PARK DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO HC TWO LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF INNOVATION PARK DRIVE EAST OF NICHOLSON DRIVE WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT ON AUGUST THE 15TH.
THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR DEFERRAL.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, PA EIGHT DASH 2 3 9 5 0 9 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO OFFICE, LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY WEST OF BLUEBONNET BOULEVARD.
AND ITEM NUMBER TWO, CASE 34 DASH 23 95 0 9 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE N O TO GENERAL OFFICE, LOW RISE, G O L LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY WEST OF BLUEBONNET BOULEVARD.
AND ITEM NUMBER 22 S S SIX DASH 23.
CSS MCCONNELL PROPERTY PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITH A PRIVATE STREET LOCATED ON THE SOUTH OF THE DEAD END OF NORWOOD DRIVE.
THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.
ITEM NUMBER 10, CASE 40 DASH 2 3 19 20.
CAROLYN SUE DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM TRANSITION B ONE TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE HC ONE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAROLYN SUE DRIVE NORTH OF OLD HAMMOND HIGHWAY.
ITEM NUMBER 11 CASE 41 DASH 23 1 1 8 5 8 SOUTH HAROLDS FERRY DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTH HARALD FERRY FERRY ROAD, WEST OF EASTGATE DRIVE.
ITEM NUMBER 12 CASE 42 DASH 23 19 17 MINNESOTA DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, A 3.1 TO MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
A 3.2 LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF MINNESOTA STREET SOUTH OF VAN BUREN STREET.
ITEM NUMBER 13, CASE 43 DASH 23 15 80 NICHOLSON DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT COMMERCIAL C ONE HEAVY COMMERCIAL C TWO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR AND LOUNGE CA B TWO AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE TWO HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE HC ONE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NICHOLSON, DRIVE NORTH OF MCCLUNG STREET.
ITEM NUMBER 14, CASE 45 DASH 23 7 1 1 5 7 1 2 5 7 1 3 5 AND 7 1 4 5 PICO LANE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PICO LANE SOUTH OF RU DVE.
ITEM NUMBER 15, CASE 46 2 3 6 9 5 5 PICO LANE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO L C TWO LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PICO LANE NORTH OF RU DELVE.
ITEM NUMBER 16 CASE 47 DASH 23 1300 THROUGH 1400 MYRTLE STREET TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL ONE LC ONE LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MYRTLE STREET EAST OF EDDIE ROBINSON SENIOR DRIVE.
ITEM NUMBER 18, CASE 49 DASH 2 3 1 0 1 5 0 1 0 3 9 0 1 0 4 2 0 1 0 6 6 OH AND 1 0 7 5 OH PICU PICO LANE TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AGRICULTURE.
ONE R E SLASH A ONE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PICO LANE BETWEEN HIGHLAND ROAD AND PERKINS ROAD.
ITEM NUMBER 19, CASE 50 23 1 0 3 4 5 1 0 3 8 1 AND 1 0 7 0 9 PICO LANE TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE SLASH AGRICULTURE.
ONE R E A SLASH A ONE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PICO LANE BETWEEN HIGHLAND ROAD AND PERKINS ROAD.
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20 CS 12 DASH 23 T L AND JULIA, A ALBAN TRACT PROPOSED FLAG LOTT MINOR SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF JULIA ALBAN LANE, WEST OF SEGAN LANE.AND ITEM 21 CS 13 DASH 23 D SS D PORTER TRACT PROPOSED FLAG LOTT MINOR SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED TO THE NORTH SIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY WEST OF BLUE BONNET BOULEVARD PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE U D C MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'VE HAD REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC TO PULL ITEMS 18 CASE 49 23 ITEM 19, CASE 50 23 AND ITEM 21 CS 1323 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO HAVE THEM HEARD IN THE REGULAR AGENDA ORDER TONIGHT.
THANK YOU DIRECTOR HOLCOMB COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOU HAVE HEARD ALL THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WILL BE TAKEN WITH ONE VOTE.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAVE AN ITEM ON CONSENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED AND HEARD AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA? DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION MOVED BY VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCROGGS? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, THOSE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED AND WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEMS FOUR
[Items 4 & 5]
AND FIVE.THESE TWO ITEMS CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLAN AMENDMENT 11 23 1 6 4 8 1 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY AND ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUT 2 23 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY PA DASH 11 DASH 23 1 6 4 8 1 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY RELATED TO PUD DASH TWO DASH 23.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST SIDE OF OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY NORTH OF VAL AVENUE COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE.
NO, THE APPLICANT IS BRAD ANTI.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE USES PLAN AMENDMENT FROM AGRICULTURAL, RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO EMPLOYMENT CENTER RELATED CASE PUD DASH TWO DASH 23 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY CONCEPT PLAN.
THE PUD CONCEPT PLAN PROPOSED IS 700,000 SQUARE FEET, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE AREA.
THE FUTURE LAN DESIGNATION IS AGRICULTURAL RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PA DASH 11 DASH 23 1 6 4 8 1 OH SCENIC HIGHWAY RELATED TO PUD DASH TWO DASH 23.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON THE PROPOSED LAND USE DESIGNATION OF EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
APPEARING TWO INTENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA STAFF DOES CERTIFY THAT THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS IF THE COMPANION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MY NAME'S ERIC PIAZZA, 400 CONVENTION STREET, BATON ROUGE 7 0 8 0 2.
I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT FOR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. SO THERE'S TWO ITEMS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THE FIRST IS TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO PUD AND THE SECOND IS TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM AG RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
UH, AS MR. MORIN STATED THE FIRST ITEM, THE PUD HAS BEEN CERTIFIED TO MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE U D C.
THE SECOND ITEM IS NOT CERTIFIED BY THE STAFF AND THERE'S A MO A RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THAT ITEM.
I'VE MET WITH EACH OF YOU AND I THINK EACH OF YOU UNDERSTAND THE, THE SECOND ITEM OR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS HAVE FULL SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN NOEL.
WE ARE, WE ARE REZONING THIS, THIS PROPERTY TO DO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S SURROUNDED BY RURAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHY THE STAFF IS UNABLE TO CERTIFY THAT IT MEETS REQUIREMENTS WITH THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE SURROUNDING IT BEING RURAL AS WELL.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO OPPOSITION TO THIS MATTER TO EITHER ONE OF THEM.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNCILMAN NOLI FULLY SUPPORTS IT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
WE HAVE ONE, UH, SPEAKER CARD THAT IS IN FAVOR BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK FOR CAMERON MILLER.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND INVITE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FOR THESE TWO ITEMS. COMMISSIONER SCROGGS, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS ITEM FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LANDER.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THESE ITEMS? SEEING NONE, THOSE ITEMS ARE,
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ARE APPROVED.MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TWO ITEMS WHICH
[Items 6 & 7]
CAN ALSO BE TAKEN TOGETHER.ITEM SIX, PA 1223 AND ITEM SEVEN, CASE 2223, I MEAN 44 23 PA DASH 12 DASH 23 3 5 4 0 JONES CREEK ROAD RELATED TO CASE 44 DASH 23.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST SIDE OF JONES CREEK ROAD, SOUTH OF TAR ROAD COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT ASO.
THE APPLICANT IS CLAIRE GOWING.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE USES PLAN AMENDMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO OFFICE R CASE 44 DASH 23.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO GENERAL OFFICE.
LOW RISE, G O L PROPOSED USE OFFICE ART GALLERY.
THE FUTURE BUREAU LANE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PA DASH 12 DASH 23 3 5 4 0 JONES CREEK ROAD RELATED TO CASE 44 DASH 23.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARING APPROPRIATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.
SNAP ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING DOES MEET THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING IF THE COMPANION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, BEING COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO NEED TO REMIND THE APPLICANTS FOR THE REMAINING CASES ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
WE DO HAVE LIMITED ATTENDANCE BY OUR VOTING MEMBERS.
UH, NORMALLY WE HAVE NINE COMMISSIONERS THAT CAN VOTE.
WE ONLY HAVE SIX IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
SO KEEPING WITH PREVIOUS PRACTICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, ANY APPLICANT THAT WOULD LIKE A DEFERRAL, WE HAVE OFFERED AN AUTOMATIC DEFERRAL.
UM, THEY WOULD JUST NEED TO STATE THAT FROM THE MICROPHONE.
UM, AND THAT ITEM COULD BE DEFERRED TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS, ALL ITEMS WILL NEED FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO GO ON AS AN APPROVAL.
AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AND I HOPE Y'ALL ALL HAVE AIR CONDITIONERS IN YOUR HOMES AND CARS THAT ARE WORKING.
UM, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY MOTHER'S PROPERTY.
SHE'S 86 YEARS OLD, ABOUT TO BE 87, AND SHE, UH, RECENTLY, UH, LAST IN 2022, MOVED TO WILLIAMSBURG RETIREMENT HOME AND HAS BEEN TRYING TO SELL HER HOME AT 35 40 JONES CREEK.
UH, SHE HAS OWNED THE HOME SINCE 1977 AND AT THE TIME IT WAS, UM, ZONED RURAL AND, UH, SHE REALLY NEEDS THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THIS HOME TO HELP HER WITH HER RETIREMENT LIVING EXPENSES.
NOW THE HOUSE IS SITUATED, UM, NEXT TO SOME BUSINESSES.
IN FACT, THERE ARE BUSINESSES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ROAD UP UNTIL HER HOME AND BUSINESSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HER HOME.
UH, SO WE ARE ASKING THAT IT BE REZONED TO ALLOW THE GO THAT THE G O L.
UM, AND UM, WE'VE HAD SOME INTEREST IN THE RESIDENCE, BUT NOBODY HAS, UH, THAT HAS, UM, COME TO BUY THE RESIDENCE, HAS BEEN INTERESTED IN IT FOR RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, UM, LARGE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH NEXT TO US AND THAT ALL THE BUSINESSES UP AND TO HER, UM, ARE BUSINESSES.
SO WE'RE JUST, UH, ASKING FOR THIS REZONING SO THAT SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO SELL THE PROPERTY BECAUSE AFTER IT BEING ON THE MARKET FOR QUITE A WHILE, UH, COMPARED TO HOW QUICKLY HOUSES ARE SELLING, SHE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET IT SOLD BECAUSE OF THE ZONING PEOPLE ARE THAT INSTRUMENT DIDN'T WANT IT FOR OFFICE TYPE, UM, USE.
UM, WE DID PAY THE $1,600 TO GET IT REZONED AND THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO, UM, WHAT IT IS ZONED AS RIGHT NOW.
SOME OF THE PAPERS SAID RESIDENTIAL, SOME SAID RURAL, BUT WE'RE WE'RE SAYING IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND WE'RE GOING FOR OFFICE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOWED SOME OF IT.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE, AND WE DID EMAIL EVERYONE, UM, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT YOU COULD SEE OR ASK BUSINESSES.
WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO PASS THIS AROUND? YES.
SO AS I SAID, SHE NEEDS THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THIS HOUSE TO HELP HER WITH HER RETIREMENT, UM, EXPENSES.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL OF YOU, IF IT WAS YOUR MOM, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
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THANK YOU.WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARD, UH, THAT IS IN FAVOR FOR GLENDA POLLARD, UH, SAYS, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IF NEEDED.
DO YOU, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, MA'AM.
HI, I'M GLENDA POLLARD AND WITH POLLARD PARTNERS, AND I'VE BEEN REPRESENTING THE DE DOMINICAN FAMILY FOR THE PAST YEAR.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, PREPARING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND MOVING THIS LITTLE LADY TO WILLIAMSBURG AFTER SHE'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE MID SEVENTIES.
AND, UM, SHE AND HER FAMILY ENJOYED THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, USED IT.
UM, HER, HER FATHER, UM, HELPED MANY PEOPLE, LET MANY PEOPLE LIVE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND, UM, HE HAD WAREHOUSES AND DID VARIOUS BUSINESSES THERE.
AND IT WAS A PERFECT LOCATION.
YOU KNOW, JONES CREEK IS NOW A VERY BUSY THOROUGHFARE AND, UM, WHEN YOU GO DOWN FROM HAROLD'S FERRY, YOU JUST HAVE ONE BUSINESS AFTER ANOTHER FROM, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THE PALM TREE BUSINESS, WHICH TAKES, UM, YOU KNOW, A A LARGE CHUNK.
AND THEN NEXT DOOR TO UM, UH, MISS D D DOMINICAN'S PIECE OF PROPERTY IS A HOUSE THAT THE HAINS, UH, AND EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THE HAIN, UH, CARPET BUSINESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED NOW, BUT HE HAD A A BECAUSE IT WAS ALL RES IT WAS ALL RURAL AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN BEHIND HIS HOME, HE HAS HUGE WAREHOUSES, TREMENDOUS WAREHOUSES, AND THE CAJUN NAVY IS NOW RESIDING.
UH, THEIR OFFICE IS THERE NOW WHERE THEY HAVE, UH, THEY DO ALL THEIR STORAGE AND TRUCKS COME IN AND OUT AND, UM, IT'S BASICALLY UNSIGHTLY.
SO, UM, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT DOES SERVE A PURPOSE, BUT ANYBODY WHO'S GONNA TRY AND PAY WHAT THE VALUE OF THREE ACRES IS ON JONES CREEK ZONED X, IT DOES NOT FLOOD.
IT'S NOT GONNA WANT TO HAVE A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR HOME NEXT TO THE HELPIN WAREHOUSES AND THE CAJUN NAVY.
AND, UM, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE IN RURAL, UH, DESIGNATION.
YOU LOOK BEHIND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I STARTED MARKETING THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE, UM, THE DE DOMINICANS, I SAW THIS HUGE WAREHOUSE GO UP.
I GO AROUND AND I TALK TO THE OWNER AND THEY HAVE ERECTED A HUGE WAREHOUSE AND THEY SAID, WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE IT'S RURAL.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, IT'S A WONDERFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND, UM, WE JUST THINK WE'LL HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THE HOUSE, NOTHING HAS BEEN UPDATED SINCE 1970S.
IT'S A TRUE, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVENTIES TIME WARP WHEN YOU WALK IN.
BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO? NO, MA'AM.
YOU'RE JUST HERE TO COMMENT AT THIS.
DURING THE HEARING, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE ONE, UH, SPEAKER CARD, UH, THAT IS IN OPPOSITION FOR ROBERT MILLS.
MR. MILLS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, I JUST WANNA COMMENT TODAY, VOICE OPPOSITION TO, UH, THIS REZONING EFFORT, UM, REVIEWING THE, UM, REZONING DOCUMENTS THAT WERE AVAILABLE ONLINE, UH, TO COME TO MY ATTENTION.
UH, THAT THERE IS NO, UH, INCLUDED INFORMATION IN HERE REGARDING ANY KIND OF, UH, DRAINAGE IMPACT STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR THESE, THIS PROPERTY.
UH, IT'S HEAVILY, UH, IT'S HEAVILY WOODED.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VEGETATION AND, UH, ANY KIND OF REZONING WOULD MOST LIKELY INCUR, UH, CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS THAT WOULD INCLUDE A LOT OF OPEN PAVEMENT.
UH, THIS AREA, AS YOU KNOW, IS VERY, UH, SUBJECT TO AERIAL FLOODING, UH, FOR THE SURROUNDING, UH, DWELLINGS IN THE, THE LOCAL AREA.
UM, VERY HIGH CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROXIMITY OF THE DRAINAGE, UH, IN THE LOCAL AREA.
SO, UH, I DON'T SEE ANY, UH, INDICATION OF ANY DRAINAGE IMPACT STUDIES INCLUDED IN WITH THIS REZONING EFFORT.
UM, AS WELL AS ANY, UH, INDICATION FOR, UH, A, A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.
THIS, THIS AREA IS A VERY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AREA, UH, JONES CREEK, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS.
UH, THIS LOCAL AREA DOES NOT HAVE A DEDICATED LEFT-HAND TURN LANE OR DEDICATED TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
UM, SO THE, UH, UH, THE PROPENSITY FOR TRAFFIC INCIDENCES, POSSIBLY DEADLY ONES COULD BE VERY, UH, COULD STAND TO INCREASE IN THIS LOCAL AREA.
AND I, AS A RESIDENT OF THIS LOCAL AREA, I NOTED, UH, SEVERAL SERIOUS TRAFFIC INCIDENTS AT TERRELL AND JONES CREEK.
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UM, THAT'S MY PRIMARY OPPOSITION TO, UH, THE REZONING EFFORT FOR THIS PROPERTY.AND I WISH YOU GUYS TO, UH, TAKE THAT INTO FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO RESPOND TO, UH, THE CONCERNS.
YOU KNOW, JONES CREEK USED TO BE JUST AN OLD TWO-LANE HIGHWAY, AND I WENT TO WOODLAWN HIGH SCHOOL.
AND IT IS TRUE THAT YOU, YOU HAVE TO MAKE KIND OF A U-TURN TO GET INTO MY PARENTS' PROPERTY.
UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IT'S MADE OUR PROPERTY MORE DIFFICULT TO SELL AS RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO COMMERCIALIZED ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'VE BEEN LANDLOCKED BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT A BUSINESS UP INTO US AND WE CAN'T FIND ANY BUYERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN IT FOR RESIDENTIAL.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, BEFORE, UH, BEFORE OPENING FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR MOTIONS, I'LL ASK DIRECTOR HOLCOMB TO, UH, TOUCH BASE ON A FEW THINGS.
ONE, UH, PROVIDE THE APPLICANT.
I GUESS JUST A BRIEF CLARIFICATION, UH, REGARDING THE TWO DI, THE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS AND, UH, AND HOW THEY'RE LABELED AS FAR AS THE RURAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL.
ALSO, UH, ONE OF THE, THE, THE GUY THAT SPOKE IN OPPOSITION MENTIONED, UH, FLOODING DRAINAGE STUDY.
IF YOU COULD TOUCH ON THAT, UH, AS WELL.
AND ALSO, IF YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER AMAR AND GUIDING HER FEELINGS ON THESE ITEMS THAT WOULD BE ON THIS ITEM, THAT WILL BE APPRECIATED AS WELL.
CERTAINLY A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION FOR ITEM SIX AND SEVEN.
UH, AS, AS THE CHAIRMAN STATED, THESE ITEMS ARE TAKEN TOGETHER.
SO THE TERMINOLOGY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ACTUAL ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, TO REZONING THE PROPERTY, IT REQUIRES THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH IT.
UM, THE PLAN AMENDMENT, THE CURRENT FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION, UH, IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AS THE APPLICANT STATED, THEY'RE ASKING TO CHANGE THAT TO OFFICE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REZONING REQUEST, WHICH IS THE COMPANION CASE.
ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS TO REZONE FROM THE ACTUAL CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, RURAL TO GENERAL OFFICE, LOW RISE, G O L.
UM, THERE IS G O L ACROSS THE STREET, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE ON THE STAFF REPORT, UM, THE, THE OPPOSITION, UM, SPOKE TO SOME CONCERNS ON DRAINAGE.
UH, AGAIN, ON THE STAFF REPORT, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROPERTIES LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA.
UH, REZONINGS AND PLAN AMENDMENTS DO NOT REQUIRE A DRAINAGE STUDY TO BE SUBMITTED OR DRAINAGE IMPACT STUDY.
UM, A WA WA WATER QUALITY IMPACT STUDY TO BE SUBMITTED.
UH, THOSE DETAILS AND THE DETAILED GRADING PLAN WOULD BE LOOKED AT AT THE PERMITTING OR CONSTRUCTION LEVEL.
THIS IS JUST ASKING FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT AND A REZONING, WHICH DOESN'T GIVE ANY ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UM, BY RIGHT, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S A SEPARATE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WOULD BE LOOKED AT BY THE PERMIT OFFICE AT A LATER DATE.
UM, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUN COUNCILMAN ASO TODAY, AND, UH, SHE STATED THAT HER, UH, UH, THAT SHE WAS AWARE OF THESE TWO A APPLICATIONS AND SHE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD.
UH, SHE DID HAVE A LEVEL OF COMFORT AND, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER ADDISON, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE.
I BELIEVE THAT MOTION HAS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ELLEN.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, SEEING NONE OF THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED.
[8. Case 37-23 2083 Dallas Drive]
TO ITEM EIGHT, CASE 37 23.CASE 50 DASH 23 1 0 3 4 5 1 0 3 CASE 50 DASH 23 1 0 3 4 5, 1
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CASE, UH, 37 DASH 23, UH, 2083 DALLAS DRIVE TO REZONE FROM TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL M TWO TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR AND LOUNGE CA B TWO LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF DALLAS, DRIVE NORTH OF WACO AVENUE ON PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY NOW ARE FORMERLY KNOWN AS LOTS 3 1 1 AND 3 1 2 OF WOODDALE CENTER.FILING STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE RECEIVED 27 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS VOTING MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, LOW ATTENDANCE DEFERRAL DOES NOT APPLY ANYMORE.
AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
I JUST WANT USE MY MINUTES TO RESPOND THE COMMENT FOR THE OPPOSITION.
SO, BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, 27 OPPOSITION.
I THINK I GOT ONE OVER HERE TO SPEAK, SO I WANNA USE MY MINUTES TO RESPOND HER COMMENTS.
I CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? YOU CAN USE FIVE MINUTES TO, TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS.
ALRIGHT, SO YOUR, YOUR INITIAL COMMENTS YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED 15 MINUTES FOR, ALRIGHT, SO THIS THE SECOND TIME HERE AND YOU KNOW, I'M THE APPLICANT FOR THE CLUB AND YOU KNOW, I'M NEW IN THAT AREA.
I'M COME WITH A NEW CREW AND UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME COME HERE SECOND TIME AFTER 60 DAYS BECAUSE THE FIRST, THE FIRST MEETING OVER HERE WAS, UH, 60 DAYS BEFORE AND I GOT EIGHT MONTHS WITH, IN THIS SITUATION, YOU KNOW, SO I SPENT MY OWN MONEY OVER THERE, MY SAVINGS I GOT WITH MY WIFE OVER THERE.
SO I'M PUT MY OLD THINGS OVER THERE AND YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO OPEN THIS FOR MY FAMILY, FOR TAKE CARE OF MY KIDS.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M COME TO, I'M NOT COME TO WITH TROUBLES AND EVERYTHING.
I KNOW I HEAR BEFORE IN THE, IN THE LAST MEETING THAT IN THE AREA, UH, LIKE BAD THINGS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE AREA, BUT THE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT BUILDING ALWAYS WAS CLUB.
HE GOT THAT BUILDING WITH BAR LIKE A 30 37 SOMETHING, 7 37 YEARS.
YOU HAVE THAT CLUB 34, 30, 34 YEARS WITH THE SAME CLUB IN THE SAME AREA.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF I JUST WANNA, I WANNA SAY SOMETHING.
HE'S THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU KNOW ABOUT CLUBS OR BARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MORE IN DANCE CLUBS, YOU KNOW, BARS DIFFERENT.
BUT THIS, BUT THIS IS A BAR DANCE CLUB.
AND ALWAYS, HE ALWAYS, WHEN HE RAN HIS PLACE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT PROMOTERS, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT SCREW, IT'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
SO ALWAYS WHEN, UH, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO HIS PLACE AND, AND RUN HIS PLACE, YOU KNOW, COME WITH DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE PAST.
I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LIKE TROUBLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M COME WITH NEW IDEAS.
I'M, YOU KNOW, AFTER, AFTER THE FIRST MEETINGS, I'M, I'M CALLED WITH POLICE AND I'M, I'M SUPPORT WITH POLICE, THE OLD AREA.
SO I THINK, SO IT'S MORE BENEFIT, LIKE, BECAUSE I WORK WITH POLICE TO COVER THE AREA, YOU KNOW, AROUND.
AND IT'S BETTER LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, UH, UM, I GOT MY HISTORY ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT NEW IN THIS, UH, BUSINESS.
I DO IT LIKE A, LIKE A COUPLE YEARS, LIKE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.
AND I HAVE WITH, UM, I HAVE, I HAVE A CLUB BEFORE THEN THIS ONE NOW, NOW ONE IS AS A NEW PROJECT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I NEVER HAVE A TROUBLE WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, CITY, WITH POLICE NEVER SHOOTING, NEVER TROUBLE, NEVER NOTHING.
BECAUSE MY BUSINESS MORE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER ONES.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO, SO I, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I KNOW.
I, I JUST WANT TO SAY BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS A POSITION.
THIS IS THIS, THIS
SO, AND I THINK SO THAT I HEAR THE SAME GUY AND THE, THE FIRST MEETING ABOUT THE SHOOTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
HE JUST, I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA HEAR, I JUST WANNA SAY, SAY SOMETHING TO HIM LIKE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME I'M NOT THERE, YOU KNOW, HE'S THE OWNER.
WHAT'S DIFFERENT PROMOTING WAS DIFFERENT PEOPLE BRING THE PLACE AND YOU KNOW, I'M NEW, I'M DIFFERENT.
SO, UH, I THINK SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CORRECT IF I COME TO THE CITY AND PAY MY TAXES AND PUT LIKE
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A LITTLE BIT FOR PAY MY TAXES AND DO EVERYTHING STRAIGHT, SOMEBODY STOP ME JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT, YOU KNOW, OR FOR SOMETHING IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW? SO I'M NEW AND I'M COME TO DO EVERYTHING STRAIGHT AND YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE A LOT OF BAD COMMENT, I, I, I DON'T THINK SO.IT'S FOR MY FAULT, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR THE SOMETHING SOMEBODY ELSE FAULT, YOU KNOW? SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT RIGHT NOW.
I JUST, I WAIT FOR THE COMMENT ALL.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD THAT'S IN FAVOR FOR, UH, MR. SHELTON.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE RECORD.
HOW Y'ALL DONE TODAY? YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, SIR? YES SIR.
LISTEN, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
LISTEN, I HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR 34 YEARS.
I WORKED OVER THERE AND ALL MY NUMBER HAVE BEEN ON THIS BUILDING EVER SINCE I HAD IT.
ANYBODY HAD ANY PROBLEM OVER THERE, COULD COME TO ME, COULD CALL ME, WHATEVER.
SO WHAT THEY, THEY CALLED AND SAYING ALL THIS, THAT, SIR, I MADE A POINT TO MAKE SURE MY BUSINESS WAS THERE TOO.
SO I WOULDN'T DOING NOTHING TO TRY TO DESTROY NOBODY'S BUSINESS IF SOMETHING HAPPENED OVER THERE OR SOME TRASH.
I MADE SURE WHEN WE LEFT THAT NIGHT WE CLEANED UP AND MY BUSINESS JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE, LIKE THE LADY SAID, I'M 80 YEARS OLD, I HAVE PROPERTY HERE, HAVEN'T HAD 34 YEARS.
I'M TRYING TO RENT TO A YOUNG MAN HERE SO HE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
THEY WANT TO STOP ME FROM HAVING MY INCOME COME IN SOMETHING.
I DONE WAIT FOR 30 SOMETHING YEARS.
I'M NOT, I, I AIN'T BEEN TO, I AIN'T BEEN TO PENITENTIARY.
THANK GOD I'M A BEEN, I'VE BEEN THERE, BEEN IN HERE FOR 34 YEARS IN BATON ROUGE, HAD APARTMENTS OVER ON SHEWAY PARK BOULEVARD, HAD THE PLACE ON ALLEN HIGHWAY.
I AIN'T GOT NOTHING AGAINST NOBODY.
SO IF SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH MY BUSINESS, THEY CAN COME TELL ME MAN.
I AIN'T GOT NO REASON TO BE W DARK NOBODY.
I WAS AT THAT BUSINESS JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY.
JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY I WAS THERE FROM ANYBODY OVER THERE KNOW ME, SEE ME.
I AIN'T TRYING TO DESTROY NOBODY'S BUSINESS.
MY BUSINESS, I WANT THE WHOLE STREET TO LOOK GOOD.
THAT IF THE STREET LOOK BAD, MY BUSINESS LOOK BAD.
I, WE, WE DID THE BEST WE COULD DO WITH THE SECURITY GUARD WE HAD THERE.
WE WORKED TO HELP KEPT HOLD AND GET ELECTED.
SO POLICE WOULD WORK AT THE CLUBS.
WE COULDN'T GET IT, BUT THEY WORKING AT THE CLUBS NOW WE CAN HAVE THE POLICE THERE DURING THE TIME WE OPEN, THE POLICE CAN BE THERE.
SO THAT ELIMINATES THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IF THAT TRASH OR WHATEVER THE POLICE CAN WORK AT THE CLUB, IF WE OPEN EVERY MINUTE WE OPEN, THE POLICE WILL BE ON, ON DUTY AT THE CLUB.
I'M NOT TRYING TO START NOBODY.
I DON'T WANT NOBODY GETTING HURT IN MY BUSINESS.
I GOT CHILDREN, I GOT GRANDCHILDREN.
IF SOMEBODY GET HURT OR SOMETHING, IT HURTS ME TOO.
THIS AIN'T ABOUT NO, IT'S ABOUT BUSINESS.
YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS, SIR.
YOU GOT 30 SECONDS LEFT IF YOU, SO I'M SAYING THAT, LISTEN, I'M A BUSINESS MAN, LIKE ALL THE REST OF Y'ALL, I DONE WORKED ALL MY LIFE FOR THIS THIRD GRADE EDUCATION.
I CAME, I'VE WORKED HARD FOR WHAT I HAVE AND RESPECT EVERYBODY.
AND I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO PROVE THIS SO THIS MAN CAN HAVE THIS BUSINESS.
SO I CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF INCOME COMING IN FOR WHAT I WORKED HARD FOR THINKING YOU, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD THAT IS IN OPPOSITION FOR JASON HORNSBY.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
SO I'VE BEEN ON DALLAS DRIVE FOR 31 YEARS AND WE WATCHED MR. SHELDON RUN HIS BARS OUT OF THERE.
HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH HIM.
WE WERE PROMISED THAT IT WAS GONNA CLEAN UP IN THE, IN THE MEANTIME WE WOULD GET BOXED IN.
AND THIS IS ALL I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ON DALLAS DRIVE.
IF, IF YOU WOULD WORK LATE, THERE WAS SO MANY CARS YOU WOULD GET BOXED IN WHERE YOU COULDN'T LEAVE YOUR OFFICE.
THE POLICE WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO COME TO THIS PLACE.
THEY COULDN'T CONTROL WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND WHEN PE, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THIS BAR, THERE'S NO ONE AROUND.
THIS IS IN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS DISTRICTS.
I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE FREE REIGN.
MAYBE AT THE END THEY STARTED A LITTLE BIT.
I'M TALKING LIKE THERE WAS MORE DRINKING OUTSIDE THE BAR THAN THERE WAS GOING ON IN THE BAR.
WE HAD, UH, PEOPLE DOING NUMBER TWO AT OUR, AT OUR DOORSTEP.
UH, I'D MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME.
THEY TAKE ALL THE TOBACCO OUT, THE CIGARS.
WE HAD THIS ALL IN OUR PARKING LOT.
SO WE WOULD GET THERE TO COME TO WORK THE NEXT MORNING DRINKING OUR COFFEE, THE SMELL OF COFFEE.
AND THEN WE WOULD SMELL THE TOBACCO THROW UP, UH, PEE PEE POO POO.
I DON'T HAVE A BETTER WORD FOR THAT, SO I'M SORRY, BUT IN OUR PARKING LOT.
SO YOU WOULD STEP OUT AND LITERALLY STEPPING IN THE GLASS AND ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS HORRIBLE.
SO, UM, I TALKED WITH ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS, THAT'S WHY WE GOT 27 OPPOSITIONS.
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UM, IT KIND OF, THIS 60 DAYS SNUCK UP ON US AGAIN.WE PROBABLY COULD'VE GOT MORE OPPOSITIONS, BUT EVERYBODY UP AND DOWN THE STREET FEELS VERY STRONGLY THAT WE DO NOT WANT A BAR AGAIN AT THIS PLACE.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO OVER, NOBODY OVERSEEING WHAT'S GOING ON.
IT'S, IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL, MOST EVERYBODY GOES TO HOME AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
THERE'S NOBODY THERE AT 8, 9, 10, 11 O'CLOCK.
AND IT GOT SO BAD THAT, UM, YOU JUST COULDN'T WORK LATE ANYMORE, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, IN STRONG OPPOSITION, THIS IS A BUSINESS DISTRICT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO COME AT NIGHT AND HAVE FREE REIGN AND THERE'S NO O OVERSEEING BY THE, BY THE POLICE OFFICERS.
AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
SIR, I DIDN'T COME IN TO ARGUE WITH NOBODY, BUT AGAIN, IF ANYBODY CAME TO ME AND TOLD ME SOMETHING WAS LEFT OR SOMETHING WAS DOWN OR SOMETHING WAS BAD, I CLEANED IT UP.
AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T HIDE NOBODY.
SO THE MAN SAYING THAT HE FIND NEEDLES AND ALL THIS STUFF AROUND THIS DOOR, DR.
AND MOBI OUTSIDE THE INSIDE AND MOBILE WAS OUTSIDE THE INSIDE, THAT'S NOT HELPING ME.
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT AROUND THERE IF THEY DRINKING OUTSIDE, I WOULDN'T LET 'EM BE AROUND THERE.
IF YOU, IF A DRUG ADDICT BUYING DRUGS, HE MUST BE GETTING 'EM OVER THERE WHILE HE AFTER, BECAUSE HE SHOOT UP OVER THERE.
THEY AIN'T GONNA BUY NO DRUGS HERE AND GO OVER THERE.
I'M A BUSINESSMAN MAN, AND I'M PREPARED IF ANYBODY AROUND MY HOUSE, MY BUSINESS, ANYTHING.
BUT I MEAN, JUST BEING FAIR SIR.
YOU SAID YOU CAME TO ME SIR, SIR, IF YOU COULD, OKAY.
ANYWAY, JUST BEING FAIR, HE SAID HE CAME TO ME, SIR.
IF ANYBODY CAME TO ME ANY, ANY ONE TIME AND SAID, SIR, BALL OVER HERE, TRASH OVER HERE, SOMETHING THERE.
IF I GOT IN MY CAR WHEN I'M LEAVING THE CLUB AND IF I GO DOWN THE STREET AND WE LOOK AND SEE A CAN OF SOME OVER THERE, WE'LL STOP AND GET OUT AND GO PICK IT UP.
ANYBODY THAT WORKED ME WILL TELL YOU WHEN THEY LEFT THERE, BEFORE THEY LEFT, THEY HAD TO CLEAN UP FROM CHACHA BACK DOWN TO, UH, BUILDING RIGHT THERE.
PAST GREG DUKE'S PLACE USED TO BE A LITTLE RESTAURANT THERE BEFORE YOU GET TO, UH, WHAT'S THAT CROSS STREET RIGHT THERE, GREG? WACO.
WACO HAD TO CLEAN DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE.
SO WE, AGAIN, MY BUSINESS WAS THERE BECAUSE I WANNA SEE MY BUSINESS LOOK GOOD AND THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS, SIR.
I DON'T TREAT MY NEIGHBOR LIKE THAT.
I'M GONNA TEACH MY CHILDREN HOW TO ACT IF I'M GONNA TREAT MY NEIGHBOR LIKE THIS.
I GOT A BUSINESS OVER HERE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND I WISH HARD JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
I AIN'T TRYING TO DESTROY NOBODY'S BUSINESS.
I DON'T SHOOT DRUGS, I DON'T SELL DRUGS.
I CAN'T STOP NOBODY FROM GOING DOWN THE STREET THROWING A BEER CAN OUT THEIR CAR.
I CAN'T STOP NOBODY FROM LEAVING HIS PLACE OR MY PLACE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THROWING A CAN OR NEEDLE IN SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY.
IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU GO TO WALMART, ALL APARTMENTS, THEY'RE FULL OF TRASH.
THAT'S A PART OF DOING BUILDING.
I WOULD NOT LET MY BUSINESS BE LEFT UNCLEAN.
AND I, IF I DID SOMETHING TO ANYBODY THAT WAS WRONG, I APOLOGIZE TO ANYBODY IF I DID SOMETHING WRONG, IF I DID SOMETHING, BUT I'M A MAN, YOU CAN COME TO ME.
AND AGAIN, I SAY NOW WE CAN USE THE POLICE TO HAVE US TO HELP CONTROL WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS.
THE POLICE OUT THERE, PEOPLE NOT GONNA BE SENDING THEIR CAR, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING THE LOUD NOISE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DRAG RAISING, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
BUT ALL THIS STUFF WE CAN HANDLE, ALL WE ASKING WAS A CHANCE TO LET US DO OUR BUSINESS.
SO I HAVE SOME INCOME SO I CAN DO SOME ON MY PROPERTY.
YOU CAN'T ASK ME TO GIVE UP 34 YEARS OF MY PROPERTY JUST JUST TO GIVE IT UP.
UH, YES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN STILL SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, I'M RESPONDING THIS COMMENT, JOE.
IT'S THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW.
SO HE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST, THAT CLUB IS ALMOST CLOSED, LIKE ALMOST THREE YEARS THAT, THAT THAT CLUB CLOSED, UH, LIKE, UH, FOR THE C SO IT'S CLOSED MORE THAN THREE.
SO HE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO.
HE NEVER GO AND TAKE SOME I CALL FROM IN A BAR OR SOMETHING WHEN HE WAS DRUNK, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND, UH, I, I'M RESPECTING HIS OPINION, BUT I'M NEW GUY.
I'M NEW, UH, I'M NEW COME, I'M, I'M NEW IN, I'M, I'M NEW IN THE, IN THIS SITUATION TO PAY, TO PAY TAXES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND I'M HELPED, I'M, I'M HELPED THE, THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY BY ME TOO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE DON'T KNOW ME AND HE
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OPINION, HE, HE HE DO HIS OPINION ABOUT THE PAST, ABOUT THE OTHERS GUYS, ABOUT THE OTHERS PROMOTER.YOU KNOW, HE DON'T KNOW MY CREW.
AND BECAUSE MY BUSINESS IS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M DOING ALWAYS, AND YOU KNOW, I'M HELPED TOO.
I'M, WE WORK WITH THE, WITH THE LUCIANA WASTE, UH, UM, ABOUT 30 SECONDS SIR LU LUCIANA LUCIANA WASTE.
UH, IT IS FOR THE WASTE IN, EXCUSE ME, IT THE, THE COMPANY FOR THE WASTE EXCUSE.
WHEN, WHEN WE COVID CLOSED OUR BUSINESS DOWN, WHEN COVID CAME, WE HAD TO CLOSE DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID.
OUR LICENSE WAS NOT SUSPENDED.
OUR LICENSE WAS TURNED IN BECAUSE OF COVID.
SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO BE OPEN AGAIN, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH THE OLD WASTE COMPANY OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY PARKED ALL TRUCKS OVER THERE AND THE WASTE THINGS, YOU KNOW.
AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, I'LL ASK, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB TO, UH, ONE, UH, IF YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN HAS EXPRESSED ANY OPINIONS ON THIS, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE YOU TO JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY RECAP WHY, UH, THIS PREVIOUS, UH, THE, THIS, THIS, THIS PLACE THAT OPERATED AS A BAR AND AS A CLUB PREVIOUSLY WOULD NEED TO BE REZONED NOW TO CAB TWO IN ORDER TO OPERATE GOING FORWARD.
I DID SPEAK WITH COUNCILMAN DUNN BRIEFLY TODAY.
UH, HE AND I SPOKE, AND IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DEFERRED THIS ITEM FOR 60 DAYS IN JUNE, THAT THE UNDERSTANDING WAS FOR THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER TO MEET WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE A RESOLUTION, UH, TO THE CONCERNS OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES.
UH, IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT NO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS OR CONVERSATIONS TOOK PLACE IN THAT AREA.
I KNOW HE, UH, EXPRESSED TO ME THAT HE WAS WILLING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING, BUT NEVER HEARD BACK FROM THE APPLICANT OR PROPERTY OWNER IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I CAN SHARE WITH YOU FROM THE COUNCILMAN'S STANDPOINT.
UM, CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON ASKED, UH, FOR A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON THE PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED, UH, BAR AND LOUNGE OPERATION THAT EXISTED ON THIS PROPERTY.
HISTORICALLY, UM, IT WAS TREATED AS A LEGAL, UH, A LEGALLY ESTABLISHED NON-CONFORMING USE AND THAT, UH, PREVIOUS BAR COULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
HOWEVER, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS VERY STRICT, UH, REGULATIONS THAT SPEAK TO LEGALLY ESTABLISHED NON-CONFORMING USES.
AND THEY CANNOT BE DISCONTINUED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME OF GREATER THAN SIX MONTHS.
SO THAT LEGAL LEGALLY ESTABLISHED NON-CONFORMING USE, UH, CEASED TO EXIST ANYMORE.
AND THAT, THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT'S HERE TODAY, UH, THAT THAT DID LAPSE, UH, BOTH BEFORE AND, AND WELL AFTER C O V I D.
UH, THE COVID RESTRICTIONS WERE RELAXED.
UM, WE DO HAVE A, A PARISH ATTORNEY'S REPRESENTATIVE WHO, WHO ALSO REPRESENTS THE A B C OFFICE THAT, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON THAT.
IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE SOME, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE TO VOLUNTEER.
YEAH, NO, I, I'M SATISFIED WITH IT.
UH, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? UH, COMMISSIONER STERLING, UH, I JUST HAVE A, UH, COMMENT TO MAKE.
UM, I HAVE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE SITUATION.
MR WAS MY CLIENT WHEN I WORKED IN RADIO ADVERTISING.
AND, UM, FOR PROBABLY EIGHT YEARS.
I DID BUSINESS WITH HIM MOST MORNINGS AROUND NINE TO 10 O'CLOCK.
AND MR. SHELTON HIMSELF WOULD CLEAN THE LOTS NEXT TO HIS BUSINESS AFTER A NIGHT'S BUSINESS.
SO I'VE KNOWN THIS MAN FOR 30 YEARS TO OPERATE, UM, AND BE A GOOD OPERATOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, WHEN YOU OWN A BAR, YOU CAN'T CONTROL SOME OF THE THINGS, BUT AS FAR AS TRYING TO CLEAN UP OUTSIDE HIS CLUB AREA AND THE, THE STREET, HE DID ALL THAT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, TO HEAR THE GENTLEMAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS HE COMMENTED ON, UH, DALLAS, THE RADIO STATION I WORKED FOR WAS AT THE CORNER OF DALLAS AND WACO.
IT WAS A GHOST TOWN ABOUT FIVE, FIVE O'CLOCK.
AND THERE WERE OTHER BARS IN THE AREA, SO IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT BARS AROUND THERE.
SO THERE ARE BARS ON OTHER STREETS.
AND, UH, MR. SHELTON OPERATED A, A REPUTABLE BUSINESS AND HE DID HIS PART IN
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CLEANING UP.AND I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS CASE.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER STERLING TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? UH, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER STERLING TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
AND I WAS ASKING IF THERE'S A SECOND FROM THE COMMISSION.
I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION FOR THE TIME BEING.
THERE'S A SECOND, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? THERE'S SOME, UH, NOTED OBJECTIONS.
WE'LL PROBABLY GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON HAS SOME QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT HE WANTED TO VOICE.
I THINK SOME OF IT GOT CLEARED UP BECAUSE MR. UM, PREVIOUS OWNER, MR. SHELTON, INDICATED THAT COVID WAS A REASON WHY HE HAD, UM, CEASED OPERATION.
BUT CAN YOU COME BACK UP FOR A SECOND, MR. MR. SHELTON? 'CAUSE THAT WAS A, WHEN DID YOU OFFICIALLY CLOSE YOUR BUSINESS? YOU SAY IT WAS AFFECTED BY COVID.
WHEN DID YOU OFFICIALLY CLOSE THE BUSINESS? NOW WE HAVE A LEVEL OF DEBATE ABOUT WHEN THE FEDERAL ORDER MIGHT BE APPLICABLE TO YOU, BUT WHEN DID YOU ACTUALLY CLOSE YOUR BUSINESS? D DECEMBER.
I THINK WE STOPPED 50 UTIL I BELIEVE IN DECEMBER OF THE YEAR.
UH, THE FIRST YEAR TO YEAR COVID, BUT WE PAID THE BILL FOR LIKE A YEAR.
SO WE SAW THEY FIRST, THEY GAVE US LIKE 20 PEOPLE, SO WE COULDN'T DO NOTHING WITH IT.
SO YOU HAD AN ACTIVE LICENSE IN 2019? 2020.
THEY WAS ACTIVE THROUGH COVID.
WHEN COVID CAME, THAT'S WHEN THEY LAPSED, UH, DURING, SO, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SAY THAT YOU HAD AN ACTUAL A, B, C LIQUOR LICENSE IN 2020.
WHEN COVID, OKAY, SO COVID HIT IN 2019.
AND WE HAD THE FEDERAL ORDER THAT DECLARED THAT.
UM, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IDEA WHEN YOU ACTUALLY CLOSED YOUR BUSINESS.
NOT, NOT, NOT SO MUCH WHEN YOUR DOORS INITIALLY CLOSED, IF YOU HAD A LICENSE THAT ACTUALLY TELLS US YOUR BUSINESS WAS EITHER OPERATING, WHETHER YOU HAD A SINGLE CUSTOMER OR NOT.
YEAH, LOOK, I KNOW, I KNOW, SIR.
UH, WE OPENED BACK UP AND HAD A FLOOD LIKE SEPTEMBER.
THE OLD WAS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, SO I KNOW WE HAD A LICENSE GOING OVER INTO A COVID YEAR.
YOU KNOW, THE LICENSE EXPIRED I THINK 31ST OF JANUARY, BUT IN THAT YEAR WHEN COVID CAME, WE HAD A LICENSE.
I JUST DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT DATE.
AND OF COURSE, I, I HAD, UM, JUST A SIDEBAR DISCUSSION WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY ABOUT IT, AND THAT THAT WOULD BE SETTING UP FOR DEBATE IS WHEN THE FEDERAL ORDER VERSUS THE STATE ORDER, UM, SUSPENDING THE AVAILABILITY OF PEOPLE'S LICENSES IN COVID.
OF COURSE, YOU HAVE A GREATER NUMBER OF ISSUES.
I DON'T, YOU DON'T STAND THERE.
OF COURSE, I HEARD A LOT OF TALKS WITH RESIDENTS IN THE AREA THAT ABOUT THE, THE CONDITIONS OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, UM, THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY, UH, CERTAINLY THAT IS UP FOR CONSIDERATION AS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT, UH, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER.
I HEAR THIS NEW YOUNG PERSON COME UP WITH WHAT HE'S IDEA AND SCOPE OF PROVIDING SERVICE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I ALSO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
I DID HEAR FROM SOME OF THE PERSONS SAY, WE CLOSE AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
GENERALLY CLUBS ARE AT NIGHT AND WHATEVER.
CERTAINLY IF, IF THAT IS A CONCERN.
I I'M, I WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON HOW A CLUB THAT CLOSES AT TWO AND EIGHT, 2:00 AM AND MAYBE GET STARTED ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE WITH HIS PATRONS, WOULD HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES, GIVEN THAT IT'S A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IS WHAT IT IS.
AND PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY, LIKE SOME OF THE PERSON SAID AT THE MICROPHONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY LEAVE AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON AND MOST CLUBS NOT OPEN AT FIVE IN THE AFTERNOON, NOR DO THEY HAVE A SERVICE THEY PROVIDE AT THAT TIME.
UH, AND IF YOU HAVE SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, UH, CONTRIBUTING FACTOR BEING THE CLUB, PROVIDING FOR A NUISANCE, UH, THEN CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BOTH FOR A, B, C.
BUT THEY ADDRESSED WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATIONS, AND OF COURSE THE, UM, OWNERS OF THOSE PROPERTIES SHOULDN'T NOT BE BURDENED BY ANY APPLICANT, WHETHER IT'S A FORMER APPLICANT OR A CURRENT ONE.
UM, BUT THIS NEW PERSON SEEMED TO BE TOTALLY DIVESTED OF WHAT THE FORMER OWNERS HAD.
AND, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WAS WEIGH IN ON AT THAT, THAT POINT.
UH, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO LEAVE IT ON THE FLOOR FOR DEBATE ON MR. STERLING'S MOTION.
UH, IT IS A CONCERN TO MINE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T KNOW IF, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO SAY THAT THIS GUY, HE WAS RESPONSIBLE, THE NEW APPLICANT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SINS OF THE PAST.
I REALLY DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, ANYBODY CAN COME BACK AND SAY A PREVIOUS OWNER AND WHO'S OWNER BUILDING IN A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT
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CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE AND WHAT THEY, THEY DID, AND THAT'S NOT FAIR.YOU KNOW, NOW HE TAKES A RISK ON COMING BEFORE THIS BODY, NOTWITHSTANDING WHETHER HE HAS A CONFORMING USE OR NOT.
BECAUSE IF, AND I BELIEVE IF YOU CUT DOWN BECAUSE OF A FEDERAL DECLARATION BEING COVID, IT AFFECTED THIS NATION.
AND I THINK THAT ARGUMENT CAN BE WHETHER OR NOT THE FEDERAL DECLARATION IS APPROVED BY THE JOE BIDEN OR APPROVED BY JOHN BELL EDWARDS.
I TEND TO THINK THAT FEDERAL DECLARATION IS A SUPERSEDED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND WHEN HE LIFTS THAT FEDERAL DECLARATION, THEN EVERYTHING SITS AND START, GO BACK IN ORDER.
THAT'S FOR YOU TO GET A LEGAL ARGUMENT WITH, WITH A, WITH A COURT OF LAW, AND THEN DETERMINE WHETHER THE FEDERAL DECLARATION IS APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IMPLEMENTED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BEING THE STATE OF LOUISIANA.
I MEAN, A FEMA DISASTER BY DECLARE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER OR NOT THE STATE DECIDES TO ACT OR NOT ACT IF YOU CAN, WHEN WE FILE OUR FEDERAL FUNDS FOR REIMBURSEMENT, WHEN THE DECLARATION IS LIFTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER THE INJURY OR NOT IS TAKING PLACE OR NOT, THAT'S THE DEBATE FOR ANOTHER DAY.
I JUST THINK IT'LL BE A LITTLE UNFAIR TO NOT ALLOW THIS MAN AND ATTEMPT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
I MEAN, AND THAT HE GET HIS DEBT FOR THE COUNCIL.
MAYBE THERE'S ADDITIONAL OPPOSITION, THE COUNCIL MEMBER GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON IT.
AND FOR THAT, I STAND BY MY SECOND AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS APPROVE THE ITEM.
COMMISSIONER ADDISON, VICE CHAIRMAN GR CAN THE, UH, OWNER COME BACK UP FOR A SECOND? UM, I, I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA, IM THE, ALRIGHT.
UM, I I'M GOING TO, UH, I'M GOING TO, UM, KIND OF, UH, TAKE OFF ON SOMETHING THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON SAID.
I HAPPEN TO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS IN THE PAST, AND WE SHOULDN'T HOLD PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WE DO NOT HAVE COLLECTIVE GUILT IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND SO I I I'M, I'M, I WAS SWAYED BY THAT ARGUMENT THAT HE HAD THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NEW AND SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT YOUR ACTIONS.
BUT, AND THIS IS WHERE I HAVE THE QUESTION.
YOU CAME HERE TWO MONTHS AGO AND WE, YOU, WE GAVE YOU A DEFERRAL BECAUSE YOU HAD NOT MET WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON.
YOU HAD NOT MET WITH THE, UH, UM, THE OWNERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THEIR, THEIR CONCERNS ARE LEGITIMATE OR NOT, THEY NEED TO BE HEARD.
AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DID YOU REACH OUT TO COUNCILMAN DUNN IN THOSE TWO MONTHS? YEAH, WE, WE TOLD WITH THE COUNCIL AS, AS THE GUY ON THE N B C OFFICE? NO, NO.
YOUR METRO COUNCILMAN CLEVE DUNN.
THAT'S THE REASON WE GAVE YOU THE DEFERRAL, WAS TO REACH OUT TO HIM.
I'M, I'M, YEAH, I'M DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME.
BUT I THINK SO HE IS
AND FROM WHAT I SAW IN THE OPPOSITION EMAILS AND FROM THIS GENTLEMAN SPEAKING HERE, UM, THAT MEETING NEVER HAPPENED.
DID IT? YOU, YOU DIDN'T MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, YOU DIDN'T MEET WITH THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS? I'M NOT MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT I MEET WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, I MEET WITH THE, WITH THE GUY FROM ME, I MEET WITH THE, MR. RICKEY CAN COME RIGHT NOW AND, YOU KNOW, I'M TOLD WITH THE COUNCIL, HE'S IN THE OFFICE OF A, B, C, I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME.
BUT HE, HE, HE SAY HE HELPED ME ABOUT A BAR AND PUT A MEETING OR SOMETHINGS THAT'S A B C MY CONCERN IS THAT WE GAVE YOU AN EXTENSION BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, UH, THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS A, A, A FAIR AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION.