Aug 21, 2023 Planning Commission

UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR WITHDRAWAL.

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ITEM NUMBER 17 CASE 48 DASH 23 T 1700 INNOVATION PARK DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO HC TWO LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF INNOVATION PARK DRIVE EAST OF NICHOLSON DRIVE WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT ON AUGUST THE 15TH.

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR DEFERRAL.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, PA EIGHT DASH 2 3 9 5 0 9 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO OFFICE, LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY WEST OF BLUEBONNET BOULEVARD.

AND ITEM NUMBER TWO, CASE 34 DASH 23 95 0 9 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE N O TO GENERAL OFFICE, LOW RISE, G O L LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY WEST OF BLUEBONNET BOULEVARD.

AND ITEM NUMBER 22 S S SIX DASH 23.

DR.

CSS MCCONNELL PROPERTY PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITH A PRIVATE STREET LOCATED ON THE SOUTH OF THE DEAD END OF NORWOOD DRIVE.

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.

ITEM NUMBER 10, CASE 40 DASH 2 3 19 20.

CAROLYN SUE DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM TRANSITION B ONE TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE HC ONE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAROLYN SUE DRIVE NORTH OF OLD HAMMOND HIGHWAY.

ITEM NUMBER 11 CASE 41 DASH 23 1 1 8 5 8 SOUTH HAROLDS FERRY DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTH HARALD FERRY FERRY ROAD, WEST OF EASTGATE DRIVE.

ITEM NUMBER 12 CASE 42 DASH 23 19 17 MINNESOTA DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, A 3.1 TO MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

A 3.2 LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF MINNESOTA STREET SOUTH OF VAN BUREN STREET.

ITEM NUMBER 13, CASE 43 DASH 23 15 80 NICHOLSON DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT COMMERCIAL C ONE HEAVY COMMERCIAL C TWO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR AND LOUNGE CA B TWO AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE TWO HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE HC ONE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NICHOLSON, DRIVE NORTH OF MCCLUNG STREET.

ITEM NUMBER 14, CASE 45 DASH 23 7 1 1 5 7 1 2 5 7 1 3 5 AND 7 1 4 5 PICO LANE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PICO LANE SOUTH OF RU DVE.

ITEM NUMBER 15, CASE 46 2 3 6 9 5 5 PICO LANE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO L C TWO LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PICO LANE NORTH OF RU DELVE.

ITEM NUMBER 16 CASE 47 DASH 23 1300 THROUGH 1400 MYRTLE STREET TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M ONE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL ONE LC ONE LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MYRTLE STREET EAST OF EDDIE ROBINSON SENIOR DRIVE.

ITEM NUMBER 18, CASE 49 DASH 2 3 1 0 1 5 0 1 0 3 9 0 1 0 4 2 0 1 0 6 6 OH AND 1 0 7 5 OH PICU PICO LANE TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AGRICULTURE.

ONE R E SLASH A ONE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PICO LANE BETWEEN HIGHLAND ROAD AND PERKINS ROAD.

ITEM NUMBER 19, CASE 50 23 1 0 3 4 5 1 0 3 8 1 AND 1 0 7 0 9 PICO LANE TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE SLASH AGRICULTURE.

ONE R E A SLASH A ONE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PICO LANE BETWEEN HIGHLAND ROAD AND PERKINS ROAD.

ITEM NUMBER

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20 CS 12 DASH 23 T L AND JULIA, A ALBAN TRACT PROPOSED FLAG LOTT MINOR SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF JULIA ALBAN LANE, WEST OF SEGAN LANE.

AND ITEM 21 CS 13 DASH 23 D SS D PORTER TRACT PROPOSED FLAG LOTT MINOR SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED TO THE NORTH SIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY WEST OF BLUE BONNET BOULEVARD PLANNING COMMISSION.

STAFF CERTIFIES THAT ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE U D C MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'VE HAD REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC TO PULL ITEMS 18 CASE 49 23 ITEM 19, CASE 50 23 AND ITEM 21 CS 1323 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO HAVE THEM HEARD IN THE REGULAR AGENDA ORDER TONIGHT.

THANK YOU DIRECTOR HOLCOMB COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOU HAVE HEARD ALL THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WILL BE TAKEN WITH ONE VOTE.

ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAVE AN ITEM ON CONSENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED AND HEARD AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA? DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION MOVED BY VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCROGGS? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, THOSE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED AND WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEMS FOUR

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AND FIVE.

THESE TWO ITEMS CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLAN AMENDMENT 11 23 1 6 4 8 1 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY AND ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUT 2 23 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY PA DASH 11 DASH 23 1 6 4 8 1 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY RELATED TO PUD DASH TWO DASH 23.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST SIDE OF OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY NORTH OF VAL AVENUE COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE.

NO, THE APPLICANT IS BRAD ANTI.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE USES PLAN AMENDMENT FROM AGRICULTURAL, RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO EMPLOYMENT CENTER RELATED CASE PUD DASH TWO DASH 23 OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY CONCEPT PLAN.

THE PUD CONCEPT PLAN PROPOSED IS 700,000 SQUARE FEET, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE AREA.

THE FUTURE LAN DESIGNATION IS AGRICULTURAL RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PA DASH 11 DASH 23 1 6 4 8 1 OH SCENIC HIGHWAY RELATED TO PUD DASH TWO DASH 23.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON THE PROPOSED LAND USE DESIGNATION OF EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

APPEARING TWO INTENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE AREA STAFF DOES CERTIFY THAT THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS IF THE COMPANION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MY NAME'S ERIC PIAZZA, 400 CONVENTION STREET, BATON ROUGE 7 0 8 0 2.

I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT FOR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. SO THERE'S TWO ITEMS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THE FIRST IS TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO PUD AND THE SECOND IS TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM AG RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

UH, AS MR. MORIN STATED THE FIRST ITEM, THE PUD HAS BEEN CERTIFIED TO MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE U D C.

THE SECOND ITEM IS NOT CERTIFIED BY THE STAFF AND THERE'S A MO A RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THAT ITEM.

I'VE MET WITH EACH OF YOU AND I THINK EACH OF YOU UNDERSTAND THE, THE SECOND ITEM OR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS HAVE FULL SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN NOEL.

WE ARE, WE ARE REZONING THIS, THIS PROPERTY TO DO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S SURROUNDED BY RURAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHY THE STAFF IS UNABLE TO CERTIFY THAT IT MEETS REQUIREMENTS WITH THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE SURROUNDING IT BEING RURAL AS WELL.

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO OPPOSITION TO THIS MATTER TO EITHER ONE OF THEM.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNCILMAN NOLI FULLY SUPPORTS IT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LANDER.

WE HAVE ONE, UH, SPEAKER CARD THAT IS IN FAVOR BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK FOR CAMERON MILLER.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND INVITE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FOR THESE TWO ITEMS. COMMISSIONER SCROGGS, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS ITEM FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THESE ITEMS? SEEING NONE, THOSE ITEMS ARE,

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ARE APPROVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TWO ITEMS WHICH

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CAN ALSO BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

ITEM SIX, PA 1223 AND ITEM SEVEN, CASE 2223, I MEAN 44 23 PA DASH 12 DASH 23 3 5 4 0 JONES CREEK ROAD RELATED TO CASE 44 DASH 23.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST SIDE OF JONES CREEK ROAD, SOUTH OF TAR ROAD COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT ASO.

THE APPLICANT IS CLAIRE GOWING.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE USES PLAN AMENDMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO OFFICE R CASE 44 DASH 23.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO GENERAL OFFICE.

LOW RISE, G O L PROPOSED USE OFFICE ART GALLERY.

THE FUTURE BUREAU LANE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PA DASH 12 DASH 23 3 5 4 0 JONES CREEK ROAD RELATED TO CASE 44 DASH 23.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BASED UPON THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARING APPROPRIATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.

SNAP ALSO CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING DOES MEET THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING IF THE COMPANION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, BEING COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO NEED TO REMIND THE APPLICANTS FOR THE REMAINING CASES ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

WE DO HAVE LIMITED ATTENDANCE BY OUR VOTING MEMBERS.

UH, NORMALLY WE HAVE NINE COMMISSIONERS THAT CAN VOTE.

WE ONLY HAVE SIX IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.

SO KEEPING WITH PREVIOUS PRACTICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, ANY APPLICANT THAT WOULD LIKE A DEFERRAL, WE HAVE OFFERED AN AUTOMATIC DEFERRAL.

UM, THEY WOULD JUST NEED TO STATE THAT FROM THE MICROPHONE.

UM, AND THAT ITEM COULD BE DEFERRED TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS, ALL ITEMS WILL NEED FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO GO ON AS AN APPROVAL.

THANK YOU DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.

AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AND I HOPE Y'ALL ALL HAVE AIR CONDITIONERS IN YOUR HOMES AND CARS THAT ARE WORKING.

UM, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY MOTHER'S PROPERTY.

SHE'S 86 YEARS OLD, ABOUT TO BE 87, AND SHE, UH, RECENTLY, UH, LAST IN 2022, MOVED TO WILLIAMSBURG RETIREMENT HOME AND HAS BEEN TRYING TO SELL HER HOME AT 35 40 JONES CREEK.

UH, SHE HAS OWNED THE HOME SINCE 1977 AND AT THE TIME IT WAS, UM, ZONED RURAL AND, UH, SHE REALLY NEEDS THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THIS HOME TO HELP HER WITH HER RETIREMENT LIVING EXPENSES.

NOW THE HOUSE IS SITUATED, UM, NEXT TO SOME BUSINESSES.

IN FACT, THERE ARE BUSINESSES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ROAD UP UNTIL HER HOME AND BUSINESSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HER HOME.

UH, SO WE ARE ASKING THAT IT BE REZONED TO ALLOW THE GO THAT THE G O L.

UM, AND UM, WE'VE HAD SOME INTEREST IN THE RESIDENCE, BUT NOBODY HAS, UH, THAT HAS, UM, COME TO BUY THE RESIDENCE, HAS BEEN INTERESTED IN IT FOR RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, UM, LARGE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH NEXT TO US AND THAT ALL THE BUSINESSES UP AND TO HER, UM, ARE BUSINESSES.

THEY'RE NOT RESIDENCES.

SO WE'RE JUST, UH, ASKING FOR THIS REZONING SO THAT SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO SELL THE PROPERTY BECAUSE AFTER IT BEING ON THE MARKET FOR QUITE A WHILE, UH, COMPARED TO HOW QUICKLY HOUSES ARE SELLING, SHE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET IT SOLD BECAUSE OF THE ZONING PEOPLE ARE THAT INSTRUMENT DIDN'T WANT IT FOR OFFICE TYPE, UM, USE.

UM, WE DID PAY THE $1,600 TO GET IT REZONED AND THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO, UM, WHAT IT IS ZONED AS RIGHT NOW.

SOME OF THE PAPERS SAID RESIDENTIAL, SOME SAID RURAL, BUT WE'RE WE'RE SAYING IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND WE'RE GOING FOR OFFICE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOWED SOME OF IT.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE, AND WE DID EMAIL EVERYONE, UM, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT YOU COULD SEE OR ASK BUSINESSES.

WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO PASS THIS AROUND? YES.

SO AS I SAID, SHE NEEDS THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THIS HOUSE TO HELP HER WITH HER RETIREMENT, UM, EXPENSES.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL OF YOU, IF IT WAS YOUR MOM, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

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WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARD, UH, THAT IS IN FAVOR FOR GLENDA POLLARD, UH, SAYS, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IF NEEDED.

DO YOU, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, MA'AM.

HI, I'M GLENDA POLLARD AND WITH POLLARD PARTNERS, AND I'VE BEEN REPRESENTING THE DE DOMINICAN FAMILY FOR THE PAST YEAR.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, PREPARING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND MOVING THIS LITTLE LADY TO WILLIAMSBURG AFTER SHE'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE MID SEVENTIES.

AND, UM, SHE AND HER FAMILY ENJOYED THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, USED IT.

UM, HER, HER FATHER, UM, HELPED MANY PEOPLE, LET MANY PEOPLE LIVE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND, UM, HE HAD WAREHOUSES AND DID VARIOUS BUSINESSES THERE.

AND IT WAS A PERFECT LOCATION.

YOU KNOW, JONES CREEK IS NOW A VERY BUSY THOROUGHFARE AND, UM, WHEN YOU GO DOWN FROM HAROLD'S FERRY, YOU JUST HAVE ONE BUSINESS AFTER ANOTHER FROM, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THE PALM TREE BUSINESS, WHICH TAKES, UM, YOU KNOW, A A LARGE CHUNK.

AND THEN NEXT DOOR TO UM, UH, MISS D D DOMINICAN'S PIECE OF PROPERTY IS A HOUSE THAT THE HAINS, UH, AND EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THE HAIN, UH, CARPET BUSINESS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED NOW, BUT HE HAD A A BECAUSE IT WAS ALL RES IT WAS ALL RURAL AT THIS POINT.

HE HAD A BIG, UM, HOME.

AND THEN BEHIND HIS HOME, HE HAS HUGE WAREHOUSES, TREMENDOUS WAREHOUSES, AND THE CAJUN NAVY IS NOW RESIDING.

UH, THEIR OFFICE IS THERE NOW WHERE THEY HAVE, UH, THEY DO ALL THEIR STORAGE AND TRUCKS COME IN AND OUT AND, UM, IT'S BASICALLY UNSIGHTLY.

SO, UM, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT DOES SERVE A PURPOSE, BUT ANYBODY WHO'S GONNA TRY AND PAY WHAT THE VALUE OF THREE ACRES IS ON JONES CREEK ZONED X, IT DOES NOT FLOOD.

IT HAS NEVER FLOODED.

IT'S NOT GONNA WANT TO HAVE A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR HOME NEXT TO THE HELPIN WAREHOUSES AND THE CAJUN NAVY.

AND, UM, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE IN RURAL, UH, DESIGNATION.

YOU LOOK BEHIND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I STARTED MARKETING THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE, UM, THE DE DOMINICANS, I SAW THIS HUGE WAREHOUSE GO UP.

I GO AROUND AND I TALK TO THE OWNER AND THEY HAVE ERECTED A HUGE WAREHOUSE AND THEY SAID, WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE IT'S RURAL.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, IT'S A WONDERFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND, UM, WE JUST THINK WE'LL HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THE HOUSE, NOTHING HAS BEEN UPDATED SINCE 1970S.

IT'S A TRUE, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVENTIES TIME WARP WHEN YOU WALK IN.

IT'S KIND OF COOL.

BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO? NO, MA'AM.

YOU'RE JUST HERE TO COMMENT AT THIS.

UH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

DURING THE HEARING, THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

WE HAVE ONE, UH, SPEAKER CARD, UH, THAT IS IN OPPOSITION FOR ROBERT MILLS.

MR. MILLS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.

UM, THAT'S MY PRIMARY OPPOSITION TO, UH, THE REZONING EFFORT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, I JUST WANNA COMMENT TODAY, VOICE OPPOSITION TO, UH, THIS REZONING EFFORT, UM, REVIEWING THE, UM, REZONING DOCUMENTS THAT WERE AVAILABLE ONLINE, UH, TO COME TO MY ATTENTION.

UH, THAT THERE IS NO, UH, INCLUDED INFORMATION IN HERE REGARDING ANY KIND OF, UH, DRAINAGE IMPACT STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR THESE, THIS PROPERTY.

UH, IT'S HEAVILY, UH, IT'S HEAVILY WOODED.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VEGETATION AND, UH, ANY KIND OF REZONING WOULD MOST LIKELY INCUR, UH, CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS THAT WOULD INCLUDE A LOT OF OPEN PAVEMENT.

UH, THIS AREA, AS YOU KNOW, IS VERY, UH, SUBJECT TO AERIAL FLOODING, UH, FOR THE SURROUNDING, UH, DWELLINGS IN THE, THE LOCAL AREA.

UM, VERY HIGH CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROXIMITY OF THE DRAINAGE, UH, IN THE LOCAL AREA.

SO, UH, I DON'T SEE ANY, UH, INDICATION OF ANY DRAINAGE IMPACT STUDIES INCLUDED IN WITH THIS REZONING EFFORT.

UM, AS WELL AS ANY, UH, INDICATION FOR, UH, A, A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.

THIS, THIS AREA IS A VERY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AREA, UH, JONES CREEK, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS.

UH, THIS LOCAL AREA DOES NOT HAVE A DEDICATED LEFT-HAND TURN LANE OR DEDICATED TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

UM, SO THE, UH, UH, THE PROPENSITY FOR TRAFFIC INCIDENCES, POSSIBLY DEADLY ONES COULD BE VERY, UH, COULD STAND TO INCREASE IN THIS LOCAL AREA.

AND I, AS A RESIDENT OF THIS LOCAL AREA, I NOTED, UH, SEVERAL SERIOUS TRAFFIC INCIDENTS AT TERRELL AND JONES CREEK.

SO,

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AND I WISH YOU GUYS TO, UH, TAKE THAT INTO FURTHER CONSIDERATION.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO RESPOND TO, UH, THE CONCERNS.

YOU KNOW, JONES CREEK USED TO BE JUST AN OLD TWO-LANE HIGHWAY, AND I WENT TO WOODLAWN HIGH SCHOOL.

DROVE DOWN THAT TWO-LANE HIGHWAY, AND IT'S ALL BEEN SO DEVELOPED NOW, UH, INTO LIKE A, A FOUR-LANE, I THINK WITH A MEDIAN.

AND IT IS TRUE THAT YOU, YOU HAVE TO MAKE KIND OF A U-TURN TO GET INTO MY PARENTS' PROPERTY.

UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IT'S MADE OUR PROPERTY MORE DIFFICULT TO SELL AS RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO COMMERCIALIZED ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN.

AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'VE BEEN LANDLOCKED BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT A BUSINESS UP INTO US AND WE CAN'T FIND ANY BUYERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN IT FOR RESIDENTIAL.

TO ITEM EIGHT, CASE 37 23.

THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, BEFORE, UH, BEFORE OPENING FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR MOTIONS, I'LL ASK DIRECTOR HOLCOMB TO, UH, TOUCH BASE ON A FEW THINGS.

ONE, UH, PROVIDE THE APPLICANT.

I GUESS JUST A BRIEF CLARIFICATION, UH, REGARDING THE TWO DI, THE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS AND, UH, AND HOW THEY'RE LABELED AS FAR AS THE RURAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL.

ALSO, UH, ONE OF THE, THE, THE GUY THAT SPOKE IN OPPOSITION MENTIONED, UH, FLOODING DRAINAGE STUDY.

IF YOU COULD TOUCH ON THAT, UH, AS WELL.

AND ALSO, IF YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER AMAR AND GUIDING HER FEELINGS ON THESE ITEMS THAT WOULD BE ON THIS ITEM, THAT WILL BE APPRECIATED AS WELL.

CERTAINLY A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION FOR ITEM SIX AND SEVEN.

UH, AS, AS THE CHAIRMAN STATED, THESE ITEMS ARE TAKEN TOGETHER.

ITEM SIX IS A PLAN AMENDMENT.

SO THE TERMINOLOGY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ACTUAL ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, TO REZONING THE PROPERTY, IT REQUIRES THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH IT.

UM, THE PLAN AMENDMENT, THE CURRENT FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION, UH, IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, AS THE APPLICANT STATED, THEY'RE ASKING TO CHANGE THAT TO OFFICE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REZONING REQUEST, WHICH IS THE COMPANION CASE.

ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS TO REZONE FROM THE ACTUAL CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, RURAL TO GENERAL OFFICE, LOW RISE, G O L.

UM, THERE IS G O L ACROSS THE STREET, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE ON THE STAFF REPORT, UM, THE, THE OPPOSITION, UM, SPOKE TO SOME CONCERNS ON DRAINAGE.

UH, AGAIN, ON THE STAFF REPORT, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROPERTIES LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA.

UH, REZONINGS AND PLAN AMENDMENTS DO NOT REQUIRE A DRAINAGE STUDY TO BE SUBMITTED OR DRAINAGE IMPACT STUDY.

UM, A WA WA WATER QUALITY IMPACT STUDY TO BE SUBMITTED.

UH, THOSE DETAILS AND THE DETAILED GRADING PLAN WOULD BE LOOKED AT AT THE PERMITTING OR CONSTRUCTION LEVEL.

THIS IS JUST ASKING FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT AND A REZONING, WHICH DOESN'T GIVE ANY ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UM, BY RIGHT, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S A SEPARATE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WOULD BE LOOKED AT BY THE PERMIT OFFICE AT A LATER DATE.

UM, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUN COUNCILMAN ASO TODAY, AND, UH, SHE STATED THAT HER, UH, UH, THAT SHE WAS AWARE OF THESE TWO A APPLICATIONS AND SHE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD.

UH, SHE DID HAVE A LEVEL OF COMFORT AND, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE.

I BELIEVE THAT MOTION HAS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ELLEN.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, SEEING NONE OF THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN NOW MOVE

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CASE, UH, 37 DASH 23, UH, 2083 DALLAS DRIVE TO REZONE FROM TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL M TWO TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR AND LOUNGE CA B TWO LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF DALLAS, DRIVE NORTH OF WACO AVENUE ON PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY NOW ARE FORMERLY KNOWN AS LOTS 3 1 1 AND 3 1 2 OF WOODDALE CENTER.

SIX.

FILING STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED 27 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS VOTING MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, LOW ATTENDANCE DEFERRAL DOES NOT APPLY ANYMORE.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.

AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

I JUST WANT USE MY MINUTES TO RESPOND THE COMMENT FOR THE OPPOSITION.

SO, BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, 27 OPPOSITION.

I THINK I GOT ONE OVER HERE TO SPEAK, SO I WANNA USE MY MINUTES TO RESPOND HER COMMENTS.

I CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? YOU CAN USE FIVE MINUTES TO, TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS.

ALRIGHT, SO YOUR, YOUR INITIAL COMMENTS YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED 15 MINUTES FOR, ALRIGHT, SO THIS THE SECOND TIME HERE AND YOU KNOW, I'M THE APPLICANT FOR THE CLUB AND YOU KNOW, I'M NEW IN THAT AREA.

I'M COME WITH A NEW CREW AND UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME COME HERE SECOND TIME AFTER 60 DAYS BECAUSE THE FIRST, THE FIRST MEETING OVER HERE WAS, UH, 60 DAYS BEFORE AND I GOT EIGHT MONTHS WITH, IN THIS SITUATION, YOU KNOW, SO I SPENT MY OWN MONEY OVER THERE, MY SAVINGS I GOT WITH MY WIFE OVER THERE.

SO I'M PUT MY OLD THINGS OVER THERE AND YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO OPEN THIS FOR MY FAMILY, FOR TAKE CARE OF MY KIDS.

YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M COME TO, I'M NOT COME TO WITH TROUBLES AND EVERYTHING.

I KNOW I HEAR BEFORE IN THE, IN THE LAST MEETING THAT IN THE AREA, UH, LIKE BAD THINGS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE AREA, BUT THE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT BUILDING ALWAYS WAS CLUB.

HE'S THE OWNER.

HE GOT THAT BUILDING WITH BAR LIKE A 30 37 SOMETHING, 7 37 YEARS.

YOU HAVE THAT CLUB 34, 30, 34 YEARS WITH THE SAME CLUB IN THE SAME AREA.

HE'S THE OWNER OF THE CLUB.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF I JUST WANNA, I WANNA SAY SOMETHING.

HE'S THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU KNOW ABOUT CLUBS OR BARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MORE IN DANCE CLUBS, YOU KNOW, BARS DIFFERENT.

IT, IT IS KIND.

BUT THIS, BUT THIS IS A BAR DANCE CLUB.

AND ALWAYS, HE ALWAYS, WHEN HE RAN HIS PLACE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT PROMOTERS, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT SCREW, IT'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

SO ALWAYS WHEN, UH, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO HIS PLACE AND, AND RUN HIS PLACE, YOU KNOW, COME WITH DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU KNOW.

SO I'M NEW.

I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE PAST.

I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LIKE TROUBLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M COME WITH NEW IDEAS.

I'M, YOU KNOW, AFTER, AFTER THE FIRST MEETINGS, I'M, I'M CALLED WITH POLICE AND I'M, I'M SUPPORT WITH POLICE, THE OLD AREA.

SO I THINK, SO IT'S MORE BENEFIT, LIKE, BECAUSE I WORK WITH POLICE TO COVER THE AREA, YOU KNOW, AROUND.

AND IT'S BETTER LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, UH, UM, I GOT MY HISTORY ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT NEW IN THIS, UH, BUSINESS.

I DO IT LIKE A, LIKE A COUPLE YEARS, LIKE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.

AND I HAVE WITH, UM, I HAVE, I HAVE A CLUB BEFORE THEN THIS ONE NOW, NOW ONE IS AS A NEW PROJECT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I NEVER HAVE A TROUBLE WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, CITY, WITH POLICE NEVER SHOOTING, NEVER TROUBLE, NEVER NOTHING.

BECAUSE MY BUSINESS MORE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER ONES.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO, SO I, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I KNOW.

I, I JUST WANT TO SAY BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS A POSITION.

THIS IS NEW FOR ME.

THIS IS THIS, THIS IS NEW FOR ME.

IT'S MY FIRST TIME.

SO, AND I THINK SO THAT I HEAR THE SAME GUY AND THE, THE FIRST MEETING ABOUT THE SHOOTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

HE JUST, I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA HEAR, I JUST WANNA SAY, SAY SOMETHING TO HIM LIKE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME I'M NOT THERE, YOU KNOW, HE'S THE OWNER.

I'M NOT THERE.

WHAT'S DIFFERENT PROMOTING WAS DIFFERENT PEOPLE BRING THE PLACE AND YOU KNOW, I'M NEW, I'M DIFFERENT.

I'M COME WITH DIFFERENT TOO.

SO, UH, I THINK SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CORRECT IF I COME TO THE CITY AND PAY MY TAXES AND PUT LIKE

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A LITTLE BIT FOR PAY MY TAXES AND DO EVERYTHING STRAIGHT, SOMEBODY STOP ME JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT, YOU KNOW, OR FOR SOMETHING IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW? SO I'M NEW AND I'M COME TO DO EVERYTHING STRAIGHT AND YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE A LOT OF BAD COMMENT, I, I, I DON'T THINK SO.

IT'S FOR MY FAULT, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR THE SOMETHING SOMEBODY ELSE FAULT, YOU KNOW? SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT RIGHT NOW.

I JUST, I WAIT FOR THE COMMENT ALL.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD THAT'S IN FAVOR FOR, UH, MR. SHELTON.

IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE RECORD.

WILLIE SHELTON.

LISTEN, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

HOW Y'ALL DONE TODAY? YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, SIR? YES SIR.

LISTEN, I HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR 34 YEARS.

I'M A BUSINESSMAN.

I WORKED OVER THERE AND ALL MY NUMBER HAVE BEEN ON THIS BUILDING EVER SINCE I HAD IT.

ANYBODY HAD ANY PROBLEM OVER THERE, COULD COME TO ME, COULD CALL ME, WHATEVER.

I TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO WHAT THEY, THEY CALLED AND SAYING ALL THIS, THAT, SIR, I MADE A POINT TO MAKE SURE MY BUSINESS WAS THERE TOO.

SO MY NAME.

SO I WOULDN'T DOING NOTHING TO TRY TO DESTROY NOBODY'S BUSINESS IF SOMETHING HAPPENED OVER THERE OR SOME TRASH.

SO LEFT OVER THERE.

I CLEANED THAT UP.

I MADE SURE WHEN WE LEFT THAT NIGHT WE CLEANED UP AND MY BUSINESS JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE, LIKE THE LADY SAID, I'M 80 YEARS OLD, I HAVE PROPERTY HERE, HAVEN'T HAD 34 YEARS.

I'M 80 YEARS OLD.

I'M TRYING TO RENT TO A YOUNG MAN HERE SO HE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

THEY WANT TO STOP ME FROM HAVING MY INCOME COME IN SOMETHING.

I DONE WAIT FOR 30 SOMETHING YEARS.

I'M NOT, I, I AIN'T BEEN TO, I AIN'T BEEN TO PENITENTIARY.

THANK GOD I'M A BEEN, I'VE BEEN THERE, BEEN IN HERE FOR 34 YEARS IN BATON ROUGE, HAD APARTMENTS OVER ON SHEWAY PARK BOULEVARD, HAD THE PLACE ON ALLEN HIGHWAY.

I'M A BUSINESSMAN HERE.

AND SO I AIN'T NO BAD GUY.

AIN'T AIN'T NOBODY.

I DON'T, I DON'T HATE NOBODY.

I AIN'T GOT NOTHING AGAINST NOBODY.

SO IF SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH MY BUSINESS, THEY CAN COME TELL ME MAN.

I'M A MAN.

I STRAIGHTEN IT UP.

I AIN'T GOT NO REASON TO BE W DARK NOBODY.

AND I'M THERE.

I WAS AT THAT BUSINESS JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY.

JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY I WAS THERE FROM ANYBODY OVER THERE KNOW ME, SEE ME.

I AIN'T TRYING TO DESTROY NOBODY'S BUSINESS.

MY BUSINESS, I WANT THE WHOLE STREET TO LOOK GOOD.

THAT IF THE STREET LOOK BAD, MY BUSINESS LOOK BAD.

I, WE, WE DID THE BEST WE COULD DO WITH THE SECURITY GUARD WE HAD THERE.

WE WORKED TO HELP KEPT HOLD AND GET ELECTED.

SO POLICE WOULD WORK AT THE CLUBS.

WE COULDN'T GET IT, BUT THEY WORKING AT THE CLUBS NOW WE CAN HAVE THE POLICE THERE DURING THE TIME WE OPEN, THE POLICE CAN BE THERE.

SO THAT ELIMINATES THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF THAT TRASH OR WHATEVER THE POLICE CAN WORK AT THE CLUB, IF WE OPEN EVERY MINUTE WE OPEN, THE POLICE WILL BE ON, ON DUTY AT THE CLUB.

SO WE KNOW WHAT TO DO.

I'M NOT TRYING TO START NOBODY.

I'M A FAMILY MAN TOO.

I DON'T WANT NOBODY GETTING HURT IN MY BUSINESS.

I GOT CHILDREN, I GOT GRANDCHILDREN.

IF SOMEBODY GET HURT OR SOMETHING, IT HURTS ME TOO.

THIS AIN'T ABOUT NO, IT'S ABOUT BUSINESS.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS, SIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

YOU GOT 30 SECONDS LEFT IF YOU, SO I'M SAYING THAT, LISTEN, I'M A BUSINESS MAN, LIKE ALL THE REST OF Y'ALL, I DONE WORKED ALL MY LIFE FOR THIS THIRD GRADE EDUCATION.

I CAME, I'VE WORKED HARD FOR WHAT I HAVE AND RESPECT EVERYBODY.

AND I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO PROVE THIS SO THIS MAN CAN HAVE THIS BUSINESS.

SO I CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF INCOME COMING IN FOR WHAT I WORKED HARD FOR THINKING YOU, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD THAT IS IN OPPOSITION FOR JASON HORNSBY.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.

UM, IT KIND OF, THIS 60 DAYS SNUCK UP ON US AGAIN.

SO I'VE BEEN ON DALLAS DRIVE FOR 31 YEARS AND WE WATCHED MR. SHELDON RUN HIS BARS OUT OF THERE.

HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH HIM.

WE WERE PROMISED THAT IT WAS GONNA CLEAN UP IN THE, IN THE MEANTIME WE WOULD GET BOXED IN.

AND THIS IS ALL I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ON DALLAS DRIVE.

IF, IF YOU WOULD WORK LATE, THERE WAS SO MANY CARS YOU WOULD GET BOXED IN WHERE YOU COULDN'T LEAVE YOUR OFFICE.

THE POLICE WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO COME TO THIS PLACE.

IT WAS SO BAD.

THEY COULDN'T CONTROL WHAT WAS GOING ON.

AND WHEN PE, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THIS BAR, THERE'S NO ONE AROUND.

THIS IS IN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS DISTRICTS.

I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE FREE REIGN.

WE HAD BEER BOTTLES.

THEY NEVER GOT CLEANED UP.

MAYBE AT THE END THEY STARTED A LITTLE BIT.

I'M TALKING LIKE THERE WAS MORE DRINKING OUTSIDE THE BAR THAN THERE WAS GOING ON IN THE BAR.

CONDOMS, NEEDLES.

WE HAD, UH, PEOPLE DOING NUMBER TWO AT OUR, AT OUR DOORSTEP.

UH, I'D MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME.

THEY TAKE ALL THE TOBACCO OUT, THE CIGARS.

WE HAD THIS ALL IN OUR PARKING LOT.

SO WE WOULD GET THERE TO COME TO WORK THE NEXT MORNING DRINKING OUR COFFEE, THE SMELL OF COFFEE.

AND THEN WE WOULD SMELL THE TOBACCO THROW UP, UH, PEE PEE POO POO.

I DON'T HAVE A BETTER WORD FOR THAT, SO I'M SORRY, BUT IN OUR PARKING LOT.

SO YOU WOULD STEP OUT AND LITERALLY STEPPING IN THE GLASS AND ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS HORRIBLE.

SO, UM, I TALKED WITH ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS, THAT'S WHY WE GOT 27 OPPOSITIONS.

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'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN BUSY.

WE PROBABLY COULD'VE GOT MORE OPPOSITIONS, BUT EVERYBODY UP AND DOWN THE STREET FEELS VERY STRONGLY THAT WE DO NOT WANT A BAR AGAIN AT THIS PLACE.

'CAUSE THERE'S NO OVER, NOBODY OVERSEEING WHAT'S GOING ON.

IT'S, IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL, MOST EVERYBODY GOES TO HOME AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

THERE'S NOBODY THERE AT 8, 9, 10, 11 O'CLOCK.

AND IT GOT SO BAD THAT, UM, YOU JUST COULDN'T WORK LATE ANYMORE, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, IN STRONG OPPOSITION, THIS IS A BUSINESS DISTRICT.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO COME AT NIGHT AND HAVE FREE REIGN AND THERE'S NO O OVERSEEING BY THE, BY THE POLICE OFFICERS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

SIR, I DIDN'T COME IN TO ARGUE WITH NOBODY, BUT AGAIN, IF ANYBODY CAME TO ME AND TOLD ME SOMETHING WAS LEFT OR SOMETHING WAS DOWN OR SOMETHING WAS BAD, I CLEANED IT UP.

AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T HIDE NOBODY.

SO THE MAN SAYING THAT HE FIND NEEDLES AND ALL THIS STUFF AROUND THIS DOOR, DR.

AND MOBI OUTSIDE THE INSIDE AND MOBILE WAS OUTSIDE THE INSIDE, THAT'S NOT HELPING ME.

YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT AROUND THERE IF THEY DRINKING OUTSIDE, I WOULDN'T LET 'EM BE AROUND THERE.

IF YOU, IF A DRUG ADDICT BUYING DRUGS, HE MUST BE GETTING 'EM OVER THERE WHILE HE AFTER, BECAUSE HE SHOOT UP OVER THERE.

THEY AIN'T GONNA BUY NO DRUGS HERE AND GO OVER THERE.

I'M A BUSINESSMAN MAN, AND I'M PREPARED IF ANYBODY AROUND MY HOUSE, MY BUSINESS, ANYTHING.

SOMETHING IS WRONG, SIR.

I WOULD STRAIGHTEN THAT UP.

I AIN'T NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

SO I DIDN'T COME TO ARGUE.

BUT I MEAN, JUST BEING FAIR SIR.

JUST BEING FAIR.

YOU SAID YOU CAME TO ME SIR, SIR, IF YOU COULD, OKAY.

ANYWAY, JUST BEING FAIR, HE SAID HE CAME TO ME, SIR.

IF ANYBODY CAME TO ME ANY, ANY ONE TIME AND SAID, SIR, BALL OVER HERE, TRASH OVER HERE, SOMETHING THERE.

I'LL MAKE IT A POINT.

IF I GOT IN MY CAR WHEN I'M LEAVING THE CLUB AND IF I GO DOWN THE STREET AND WE LOOK AND SEE A CAN OF SOME OVER THERE, WE'LL STOP AND GET OUT AND GO PICK IT UP.

ANYBODY THAT WORKED ME WILL TELL YOU WHEN THEY LEFT THERE, BEFORE THEY LEFT, THEY HAD TO CLEAN UP FROM CHACHA BACK DOWN TO, UH, BUILDING RIGHT THERE.

PAST GREG DUKE'S PLACE USED TO BE A LITTLE RESTAURANT THERE BEFORE YOU GET TO, UH, WHAT'S THAT CROSS STREET RIGHT THERE, GREG? WACO.

WACO HAD TO CLEAN DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE.

SO WE, AGAIN, MY BUSINESS WAS THERE BECAUSE I WANNA SEE MY BUSINESS LOOK GOOD AND THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS, SIR.

I DON'T TREAT MY NEIGHBOR LIKE THAT.

I'M GONNA TEACH MY CHILDREN HOW TO ACT IF I'M GONNA TREAT MY NEIGHBOR LIKE THIS.

I GOT A BUSINESS OVER HERE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND I WISH HARD JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

I AIN'T TRYING TO DESTROY NOBODY'S BUSINESS.

I DON'T SHOOT DRUGS, I DON'T SELL DRUGS.

I DON'T DO NONE OF THAT.

I CAN'T STOP NOBODY FROM GOING DOWN THE STREET THROWING A BEER CAN OUT THEIR CAR.

I CAN'T STOP NOBODY FROM LEAVING HIS PLACE OR MY PLACE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THROWING A CAN OR NEEDLE IN SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY.

I CAN'T DO THAT.

CAN'T NOBODY DO THAT.

IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU GO TO WALMART, ALL APARTMENTS, THEY'RE FULL OF TRASH.

'CAUSE PEOPLE DO THAT.

THAT'S A PART OF DOING BUILDING.

I WOULD NOT LET MY BUSINESS BE LEFT UNCLEAN.

I WOULD NOT DO THAT.

AND I, IF I DID SOMETHING TO ANYBODY THAT WAS WRONG, I APOLOGIZE TO ANYBODY IF I DID SOMETHING WRONG, IF I DID SOMETHING, BUT I'M A MAN, YOU CAN COME TO ME.

AND AGAIN, I SAY NOW WE CAN USE THE POLICE TO HAVE US TO HELP CONTROL WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS.

THE POLICE OUT THERE, PEOPLE NOT GONNA BE SENDING THEIR CAR, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING THE LOUD NOISE.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DRAG RAISING, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

BUT ALL THIS STUFF WE CAN HANDLE, ALL WE ASKING WAS A CHANCE TO LET US DO OUR BUSINESS.

SO I HAVE SOME INCOME SO I CAN DO SOME ON MY PROPERTY.

YOU CAN'T ASK ME TO GIVE UP 34 YEARS OF MY PROPERTY JUST JUST TO GIVE IT UP.

I MEAN, SO THANK YOU.

UH, YES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN STILL SPEAK.

OPINION, HE, HE HE DO HIS OPINION ABOUT THE PAST, ABOUT THE OTHERS GUYS, ABOUT THE OTHERS PROMOTER.

THANK YOU MR. SHELTON.

YOU KNOW, I'M RESPONDING THIS COMMENT, JOE.

IT'S THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW.

SO HE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST, THAT CLUB IS ALMOST CLOSED, LIKE ALMOST THREE YEARS THAT, THAT THAT CLUB CLOSED, UH, LIKE, UH, FOR THE C SO IT'S CLOSED MORE THAN THREE.

SO HE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO.

HE NEVER GO AND TAKE SOME I CALL FROM IN A BAR OR SOMETHING WHEN HE WAS DRUNK, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND, UH, I, I'M RESPECTING HIS OPINION, BUT I'M NEW GUY.

I'M NEW, UH, I'M NEW COME, I'M, I'M NEW IN, I'M, I'M NEW IN THE, IN THIS SITUATION TO PAY, TO PAY TAXES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND I'M HELPED, I'M, I'M HELPED THE, THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY BY ME TOO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE DON'T KNOW ME AND HE

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HE DON'T KNOW.

HE DON'T, HE DON'T KNOW ME.

YOU KNOW, HE DON'T KNOW MY CREW.

HE DON'T KNOW NOTHING.

SO I'M COME WITH POLICES.

I'M COVERED ALL AREA.

AND BECAUSE MY BUSINESS IS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M DOING ALWAYS, AND YOU KNOW, I'M HELPED TOO.

I'M, WE WORK WITH THE, WITH THE LUCIANA WASTE, UH, UM, ABOUT 30 SECONDS SIR LU LUCIANA LUCIANA WASTE.

UH, IT IS FOR THE WASTE IN, EXCUSE ME, IT THE, THE COMPANY FOR THE WASTE EXCUSE.

SO LEMME SAY ONE OTHER THING.

WHEN, WHEN WE COVID CLOSED OUR BUSINESS DOWN, WHEN COVID CAME, WE HAD TO CLOSE DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID.

OUR LICENSE WAS NOT SUSPENDED.

OUR LICENSE WAS TURNED IN BECAUSE OF COVID.

SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO BE OPEN AGAIN, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH THE OLD WASTE COMPANY OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY PARKED ALL TRUCKS OVER THERE AND THE WASTE THINGS, YOU KNOW.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, I'LL ASK, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB TO, UH, ONE, UH, IF YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN HAS EXPRESSED ANY OPINIONS ON THIS, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE YOU TO JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY RECAP WHY, UH, THIS PREVIOUS, UH, THE, THIS, THIS, THIS PLACE THAT OPERATED AS A BAR AND AS A CLUB PREVIOUSLY WOULD NEED TO BE REZONED NOW TO CAB TWO IN ORDER TO OPERATE GOING FORWARD.

I DID SPEAK WITH COUNCILMAN DUNN BRIEFLY TODAY.

UH, HE AND I SPOKE, AND IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DEFERRED THIS ITEM FOR 60 DAYS IN JUNE, THAT THE UNDERSTANDING WAS FOR THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER TO MEET WITH OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE A RESOLUTION, UH, TO THE CONCERNS OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES.

UH, IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT NO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS OR CONVERSATIONS TOOK PLACE IN THAT AREA.

I KNOW HE, UH, EXPRESSED TO ME THAT HE WAS WILLING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING, BUT NEVER HEARD BACK FROM THE APPLICANT OR PROPERTY OWNER IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I CAN SHARE WITH YOU FROM THE COUNCILMAN'S STANDPOINT.

UM, CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON ASKED, UH, FOR A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON THE PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED, UH, BAR AND LOUNGE OPERATION THAT EXISTED ON THIS PROPERTY.

HISTORICALLY, UM, IT WAS TREATED AS A LEGAL, UH, A LEGALLY ESTABLISHED NON-CONFORMING USE AND THAT, UH, PREVIOUS BAR COULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE.

HOWEVER, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS VERY STRICT, UH, REGULATIONS THAT SPEAK TO LEGALLY ESTABLISHED NON-CONFORMING USES.

AND THEY CANNOT BE DISCONTINUED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME OF GREATER THAN SIX MONTHS.

SO THAT LEGAL LEGALLY ESTABLISHED NON-CONFORMING USE, UH, CEASED TO EXIST ANYMORE.

AND THAT, THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT'S HERE TODAY, UH, THAT THAT DID LAPSE, UH, BOTH BEFORE AND, AND WELL AFTER C O V I D.

UH, THE COVID RESTRICTIONS WERE RELAXED.

UM, WE DO HAVE A, A PARISH ATTORNEY'S REPRESENTATIVE WHO, WHO ALSO REPRESENTS THE A B C OFFICE THAT, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON THAT.

THANK YOU DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.

IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE SOME, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE TO VOLUNTEER.

YEAH, NO, I, I'M SATISFIED WITH IT.

YES, YES.

UH, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? UH, COMMISSIONER STERLING, UH, I JUST HAVE A, UH, COMMENT TO MAKE.

UM, I HAVE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE SITUATION.

MR WAS MY CLIENT WHEN I WORKED IN RADIO ADVERTISING.

AND, UM, FOR PROBABLY EIGHT YEARS.

I DID BUSINESS WITH HIM MOST MORNINGS AROUND NINE TO 10 O'CLOCK.

AND MR. SHELTON HIMSELF WOULD CLEAN THE LOTS NEXT TO HIS BUSINESS AFTER A NIGHT'S BUSINESS.

SO I'VE KNOWN THIS MAN FOR 30 YEARS TO OPERATE, UM, AND BE A GOOD OPERATOR.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, WHEN YOU OWN A BAR, YOU CAN'T CONTROL SOME OF THE THINGS, BUT AS FAR AS TRYING TO CLEAN UP OUTSIDE HIS CLUB AREA AND THE, THE STREET, HE DID ALL THAT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, TO HEAR THE GENTLEMAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS HE COMMENTED ON, UH, DALLAS, THE RADIO STATION I WORKED FOR WAS AT THE CORNER OF DALLAS AND WACO.

IT WAS A GHOST TOWN ABOUT FIVE, FIVE O'CLOCK.

AND THERE WERE OTHER BARS IN THE AREA, SO IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT BARS AROUND THERE.

SO THERE ARE BARS ON OTHER STREETS.

AND, UH, MR. SHELTON OPERATED A, A REPUTABLE BUSINESS AND HE DID HIS PART IN

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CLEANING UP.

AND I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS CASE.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER STERLING TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? UH, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER STERLING TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

AND I WAS ASKING IF THERE'S A SECOND FROM THE COMMISSION.

I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION FOR THE TIME BEING.

THERE'S A SECOND, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? THERE'S SOME, UH, NOTED OBJECTIONS.

WE'LL PROBABLY GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON HAS SOME QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT HE WANTED TO VOICE.

I THINK SOME OF IT GOT CLEARED UP BECAUSE MR. UM, PREVIOUS OWNER, MR. SHELTON, INDICATED THAT COVID WAS A REASON WHY HE HAD, UM, CEASED OPERATION.

BUT CAN YOU COME BACK UP FOR A SECOND, MR. MR. SHELTON? 'CAUSE THAT WAS A, WHEN DID YOU OFFICIALLY CLOSE YOUR BUSINESS? YOU SAY IT WAS AFFECTED BY COVID.

WHEN DID YOU OFFICIALLY CLOSE THE BUSINESS? NOW WE HAVE A LEVEL OF DEBATE ABOUT WHEN THE FEDERAL ORDER MIGHT BE APPLICABLE TO YOU, BUT WHEN DID YOU ACTUALLY CLOSE YOUR BUSINESS? D DECEMBER.

DECEMBER.

I THINK WE STOPPED 50 UTIL I BELIEVE IN DECEMBER OF THE YEAR.

UH, THE FIRST YEAR TO YEAR COVID, BUT WE PAID THE BILL FOR LIKE A YEAR.

SO WE SAW THEY FIRST, THEY GAVE US LIKE 20 PEOPLE, SO WE COULDN'T DO NOTHING WITH IT.

SO, OKAY.

SO I WANT TO SAY DECEMBER.

SO YOU HAD AN ACTIVE LICENSE IN 2019? 2020.

AN ACTIVE LICENSE.

WE HAD ACTIVE LICENSE.

THEY WAS ACTIVE THROUGH COVID.

WHEN COVID CAME, THAT'S WHEN THEY LAPSED, UH, DURING, SO, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SAY THAT YOU HAD AN ACTUAL A, B, C LIQUOR LICENSE IN 2020.

YES, SIR.

WHEN COVID, OKAY, SO COVID HIT IN 2019.

AND WE HAD THE FEDERAL ORDER THAT DECLARED THAT.

UM, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IDEA WHEN YOU ACTUALLY CLOSED YOUR BUSINESS.

NOT, NOT, NOT SO MUCH WHEN YOUR DOORS INITIALLY CLOSED, IF YOU HAD A LICENSE THAT ACTUALLY TELLS US YOUR BUSINESS WAS EITHER OPERATING, WHETHER YOU HAD A SINGLE CUSTOMER OR NOT.

YEAH, LOOK, I KNOW, I KNOW, SIR.

I KNOW THIS.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

WE HAD HAD A FLOOD THERE.

UH, WE OPENED BACK UP AND HAD A FLOOD LIKE SEPTEMBER.

THE OLD WAS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, SO I KNOW WE HAD A LICENSE GOING OVER INTO A COVID YEAR.

YOU KNOW, THE LICENSE EXPIRED I THINK 31ST OF JANUARY, BUT IN THAT YEAR WHEN COVID CAME, WE HAD A LICENSE.

CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE AND WHAT THEY, THEY DID, AND THAT'S NOT FAIR.

I JUST DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT DATE.

THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND OF COURSE, I, I HAD, UM, JUST A SIDEBAR DISCUSSION WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY ABOUT IT, AND THAT THAT WOULD BE SETTING UP FOR DEBATE IS WHEN THE FEDERAL ORDER VERSUS THE STATE ORDER, UM, SUSPENDING THE AVAILABILITY OF PEOPLE'S LICENSES IN COVID.

UM, BUT THAT'S ONE ISSUE.

OF COURSE, YOU HAVE A GREATER NUMBER OF ISSUES.

I'M, I'M, I'M NOT DONE.

I'M DONE WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

I'M SORRY.

I DON'T, YOU DON'T STAND THERE.

UM, BUT THAT WAS A CONCERN.

OF COURSE, I HEARD A LOT OF TALKS WITH RESIDENTS IN THE AREA THAT ABOUT THE, THE CONDITIONS OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, UM, THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY, UH, CERTAINLY THAT IS UP FOR CONSIDERATION AS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT, UH, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER.

I HEAR THIS NEW YOUNG PERSON COME UP WITH WHAT HE'S IDEA AND SCOPE OF PROVIDING SERVICE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I ALSO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.

I DID HEAR FROM SOME OF THE PERSONS SAY, WE CLOSE AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

WE, WE, WE WE'RE DONE.

GENERALLY CLUBS ARE AT NIGHT AND WHATEVER.

CERTAINLY IF, IF THAT IS A CONCERN.

I I'M, I WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON HOW A CLUB THAT CLOSES AT TWO AND EIGHT, 2:00 AM AND MAYBE GET STARTED ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE WITH HIS PATRONS, WOULD HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES, GIVEN THAT IT'S A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IS WHAT IT IS.

AND PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY, LIKE SOME OF THE PERSON SAID AT THE MICROPHONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY LEAVE AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON AND MOST CLUBS NOT OPEN AT FIVE IN THE AFTERNOON, NOR DO THEY HAVE A SERVICE THEY PROVIDE AT THAT TIME.

UH, AND IF YOU HAVE SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, UH, CONTRIBUTING FACTOR BEING THE CLUB, PROVIDING FOR A NUISANCE, UH, THEN CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BOTH FOR A, B, C.

BUT THEY ADDRESSED WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATIONS, AND OF COURSE THE, UM, OWNERS OF THOSE PROPERTIES SHOULDN'T NOT BE BURDENED BY ANY APPLICANT, WHETHER IT'S A FORMER APPLICANT OR A CURRENT ONE.

UM, BUT THIS NEW PERSON SEEMED TO BE TOTALLY DIVESTED OF WHAT THE FORMER OWNERS HAD.

AND, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WAS WEIGH IN ON AT THAT, THAT POINT.

UH, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO LEAVE IT ON THE FLOOR FOR DEBATE ON MR. STERLING'S MOTION.

UH, IT IS A CONCERN TO MINE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T KNOW IF, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO SAY THAT THIS GUY, HE WAS RESPONSIBLE, THE NEW APPLICANT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SINS OF THE PAST.

I REALLY DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, ANYBODY CAN COME BACK AND SAY A PREVIOUS OWNER AND WHO'S OWNER BUILDING IN A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT

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YOU KNOW, NOW HE TAKES A RISK ON COMING BEFORE THIS BODY, NOTWITHSTANDING WHETHER HE HAS A CONFORMING USE OR NOT.

BECAUSE IF, AND I BELIEVE IF YOU CUT DOWN BECAUSE OF A FEDERAL DECLARATION BEING COVID, IT AFFECTED THIS NATION.

IT AFFECTED THIS WORLD.

AND I THINK THAT ARGUMENT CAN BE WHETHER OR NOT THE FEDERAL DECLARATION IS APPROVED BY THE JOE BIDEN OR APPROVED BY JOHN BELL EDWARDS.

I TEND TO THINK THAT FEDERAL DECLARATION IS A SUPERSEDED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND WHEN HE LIFTS THAT FEDERAL DECLARATION, THEN EVERYTHING SITS AND START, GO BACK IN ORDER.

THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DATE.

THAT'S FOR YOU TO GET A LEGAL ARGUMENT WITH, WITH A, WITH A COURT OF LAW, AND THEN DETERMINE WHETHER THE FEDERAL DECLARATION IS APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IMPLEMENTED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BEING THE STATE OF LOUISIANA.

I MEAN, A FEMA DISASTER BY DECLARE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER OR NOT THE STATE DECIDES TO ACT OR NOT ACT IF YOU CAN, WHEN WE FILE OUR FEDERAL FUNDS FOR REIMBURSEMENT, WHEN THE DECLARATION IS LIFTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER THE INJURY OR NOT IS TAKING PLACE OR NOT, THAT'S THE DEBATE FOR ANOTHER DAY.

I JUST THINK IT'LL BE A LITTLE UNFAIR TO NOT ALLOW THIS MAN AND ATTEMPT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

I MEAN, AND THAT HE GET HIS DEBT FOR THE COUNCIL.

MAYBE THERE'S ADDITIONAL OPPOSITION, THE COUNCIL MEMBER GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON IT.

AND FOR THAT, I STAND BY MY SECOND AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS APPROVE THE ITEM.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON, VICE CHAIRMAN GR CAN THE, UH, OWNER COME BACK UP FOR A SECOND? UM, I, I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA, IM THE, ALRIGHT.

I'M SORRY.

UM, I I'M GOING TO, UH, I'M GOING TO, UM, KIND OF, UH, TAKE OFF ON SOMETHING THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON SAID.

I HAPPEN TO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS IN THE PAST, AND WE SHOULDN'T HOLD PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WE DO NOT HAVE COLLECTIVE GUILT IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND SO I I I'M, I'M, I WAS SWAYED BY THAT ARGUMENT THAT HE HAD THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NEW AND SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT YOUR ACTIONS.

BUT, AND THIS IS WHERE I HAVE THE QUESTION.

YOU CAME HERE TWO MONTHS AGO AND WE, YOU, WE GAVE YOU A DEFERRAL BECAUSE YOU HAD NOT MET WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON.

YOU HAD NOT MET WITH THE, UH, UM, THE OWNERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THEIR, THEIR CONCERNS ARE LEGITIMATE OR NOT, THEY NEED TO BE HEARD.

AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DID YOU REACH OUT TO COUNCILMAN DUNN IN THOSE TWO MONTHS? YEAH, WE, WE TOLD WITH THE COUNCIL AS, AS THE GUY ON THE N B C OFFICE? NO, NO.

YOUR METRO COUNCILMAN CLEVE DUNN.

THAT'S THE REASON WE GAVE YOU THE DEFERRAL, WAS TO REACH OUT TO HIM.

I'M, I'M, YEAH, I'M DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME.

BUT I THINK SO HE IS AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WAS FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASSURE THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD IN A NEW DIRECTION.

AND FROM WHAT I SAW IN THE OPPOSITION EMAILS AND FROM THIS GENTLEMAN SPEAKING HERE, UM, THAT MEETING NEVER HAPPENED.

DID IT? YOU, YOU DIDN'T MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, YOU DIDN'T MEET WITH THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS? I'M NOT MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT I MEET WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, I MEET WITH THE, WITH THE GUY FROM ME, I MEET WITH THE, MR. RICKEY CAN COME RIGHT NOW AND, YOU KNOW, I'M TOLD WITH THE COUNCIL, HE'S IN THE OFFICE OF A, B, C, I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME.

BUT HE, HE, HE SAY HE HELPED ME ABOUT A BAR AND PUT A MEETING OR SOMETHINGS THAT'S A B C MY CONCERN IS THAT WE GAVE YOU AN EXTENSION BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, UH, THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS A, A, A FAIR AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION.

AND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD SOME ISSUES AND WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU EVERY CHANCE WE COULD.

AND, UH, UM, I JUST FOUND OUT THAT COUNCILMAN DUNN HAS AN OFFICE IN THE A B C BUILDING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU TALKED TO HIM OR NOT.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IS CONS CONSULATE DON.

WELL, I NEVER, I NEVER RECEIVED NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HIS NAME OR SOMETHING.

ALRIGHT, WELL THE, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT, AND I'M NOT, I'M, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON, I'M NOT GONNA LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

YOU'RE A NEW PAGE.

I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD HOLD YOU TO SOMETHING YOU HAD NO CONTROL OVER.

RIGHT? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT AT ALL.

UM, AND YOU DIDN'T, AND TO ME THAT THAT WEIGHS IN ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

I KNOW YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, YOU SHOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE GAVE YOU TWO MONTHS TO, TO WORK SOME THINGS OUT.

SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE NO, WAS IT 20 SOME MESSAGES OF OPPOSITION?

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OKAY? I MEAN, WE GAVE YOU 60 DAYS AND YOU WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT HAVING TO WAIT EVEN TWO MORE MONTHS.

THAT'S TWO MONTHS.

YOU COULD'VE JUMPED IN, GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, GOTTEN HALF YOUR NEIGHBORS TO SHOW UP IN SUPPORT OF YOU, AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

SO HOW, HOW CAN, HOW CAN TELL THE PEOPLE I'M A NEW GUY AND I'M WITH TEAM.

THAT'S THE REASON, THAT'S THE REASON WE ASKED YOU TO TALK TO COUNCILMAN DUNN.

HE WAS TO SET UP, HE WAS WILLING TO SET UP A COMMUNITY MEETING FOR YOU.

JUST GIMME, JUST GIMME A SECOND.

HOW IS, HOW HIS NAME, THE CONS, THE COUNCIL? NO, SIR.

I'M, I'M TALKING TO THIS GENTLEMAN HERE.

YEAH, JUST LEMME TALK BECAUSE I DO WITH HIM.

JUST SEND ME WITH HIM BECAUSE I COME WITH HIM THE LAST TIME.

IF YOU, IF YOU REACHED OUT TO COUNCILMAN DUNN, APPARENTLY COUNCILMAN DUNN DIDN'T, WHO IS THE COUNCILMAN DONOR? BECAUSE I NEVER RECEIVED NOTHING WITH HIS NAME TO MAKE MEETING WITH HIM.

I DON'T KNOW.

HE'S OFFICER, HE'S THE METRO COUNCILMAN IN CHARGE OF THIS.

THAT'S WHO WE, THAT'S WHO COMMISSIONER BANKS WHEN SHE WAS HERE SPECIFICALLY TOLD YOU TO REACH OUT TO HIM.

AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE GIVING YOU EXTRA TIME BECAUSE WE KNEW YOU HAD, YOU, YOU WERE, YOU HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH, WITH GETTING THROUGH THE, THE BUREAUCRACY.

BUT I HAVE, I HAVE A MEETING CONCEPT, BUT I DON'T NOT REMEMBER HIS NAME.

I DON'T HAVE WITH ME.

BUT, BUT I, AS I SAID, I, I AM GOING, I AM GOING TO, I'M GONNA MAKE OR NOT MAKE A MOTION.

I'M GONNA OPPOSE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, BUT BECAUSE WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU HAVE SHOWN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MET YOU TWO MONTHS AGO AND IN THOSE TWO MONTHS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CONCERNED IF YOU HAVEN'T JUMPED THIS OR JUMPED ON THIS WHEN YOU HAD THAT TIME, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO IN THE FUTURE? SO I'M, I'M UNFORTUNATELY GOING TO, GOING TO, UH, GONNA OPPOSE THE MOTION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON, I SEE THESE TWO GENTLEMEN RIGHT HERE TRYING TO MAKE A COMMENT TO US.

I MEAN, I, I WOULD LIKE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANNA SAY TO US, BUT I'LL ALLOW 'EM MINUTE TO SAY.

BUT EITHER ONE OF YOU TWO.

I SEE Y'ALL, Y'ALL.

YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA SAY, BUT CAN YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AND MAKE YOUR STATEMENT OVER HERE? SIR, YOU NEED TO GET THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ALONE TO THE IDEA OF WHETHER HE MET WITH MR. DON OR NOT MET WITH MR. DONN.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW, SIR.

DID HE MEET WITH MR. DONN OR NOT MEET WITH MR. DUNN? YES, HE MET WITH MR. DON.

AND MR. DON TOLD HIM, LIKE YOU SAID, TO GO AND SPEAK TO THE PEOPLES ON THE STREET TO SEVERAL A MEETING.

AND HE WAS SUPPOSED, HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAD SPOKE TO MR. UH, THE GUY ON THE GARBAGE PLACE OVER THERE THAT TALKED TO HIM AND SAID, TALKED TO SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE THERE.

BUT HE DID SAY HE TALKED TO THE GUY ON THE GARBAGE PLACE, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND THEN THIS IS GREG DUKE.

HE TALKED TO HIM, SO HE DID TALK TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT HE DID MEET WITH MR. DON.

I WAS WITH HIM WHEN HE MET WITH MR. DON.

TOOK US ABOUT A MONTH, BUT WE DID A GOOD A APPOINTMENT WITH MR. DON.

WE MET WITH HIM.

MUCH ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

THIS IS ALLEN FROM THE COMMISSION.

I'LL MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

JUST, I THINK IT'S, UH, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE, UH, A LITTLE LACK OF CLARITY ON EXACTLY WHAT CONVERSATIONS DID AND TAKE DID AND DID NOT TAKE PLACE.

I WILL SAY THAT, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, UH, MENTIONED EARLIER THAT HE SPOKE TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN.

I, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE KNOW IS THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN DID OFFER, UH, HIS SERVICES IN THE VEIN OF SETTING UP A COMMUNITY MEETING TO MEET WITH THOSE THAT WERE, UH, OPPOSED TO THE ITEM.

AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THAT MEETING TOOK PLACE.

UH, EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT IS PROBABLY, UH, A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, IMMATERIAL.

I'LL SAY THAT IT IS, UH, DISHEARTENING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

I THINK THAT COULD HAVE GIVEN A LOT OF, UH, CLARITY AND POSSIBLY MAYBE SAW SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM, UH, THE, UH, REGARDING THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, I HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A, THIS WAS FUNCTIONING, UH, THE BUSINESS WAS FUNCTIONING IN THE VEIN, THAT IT'LL, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN THE ZONING THAT'S BEING PURSUED NOW.

AND HAD COVID NOT HAVE HIT, ITS PRETTY LIKELY THAT, UH, IT WOULD'VE CONTINUED WITH THAT, UH, WITH THE RIGHTS OF THAT NON-CONFORMING USE.

UH, BECAUSE OF THAT, I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR AND ALLOW IT TO GO TO COUNCIL, UH, FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU, UH, DESPITE WHATEVER OUTCOME COMES FROM THIS PLANNING COMMISSION TO YOU, AND HE'S NOT GOING TO REACH OUT TO YOU, MR. SHELTON, I WOULD INVITE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO ASSIST HIM IN THIS, BECAUSE THERE SEEMED TO BE

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A LACK OF, UH, UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT WAS TRYING TO RELAY TO HIM THAT IT WAS INCUMBENT ON HIM TO REACH OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER DUN, FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS, AND, UH, HAVING THOSE CONCERNS ACKNOWLEDGED AND WORKING THROUGH SOME SOLUTIONS TO MASSAGE THOSE CONCERNS AND HOPEFULLY CREATE A, IF THIS BUSINESS IS TO CONTINUE IN THAT VEIN, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORS FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY WON'T EXPERIENCE THOSE, UH, THOSE EXPERIENCES THAT THEY, THEY, THEY, UH, EXPRESSED EARLIER.

NO, SIR.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PAST THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT.

I WANT TO MAKE THAT BRIEF COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

I THINK, UH, ALL COMMENTS, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT HAD ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT, AND, AND I WANNA MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR, I'M NOT OPPOSING THIS 'CAUSE IT'S A BAR.

OKAY? I'M OPPOSING THIS BECAUSE, AND IT'S NOT A VERY STRONG OPPOSITION, BUT I'M OPPOSING THIS BECAUSE THE TIME WAS GIVEN TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPENED AND IT WASN'T USED.

AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THIS WOULD'VE GONE DOWN IF HAD HAD THAT IT NOT, HAD IT NOT BEEN, UH, DEFERRED IN JUNE.

I THINK.

SO WITH THAT, MY OPPOSITION IS THAT I'M, I'M GONNA OPPOSE, I KNOW THIS IS GONNA GO TO COUNCIL.

THERE ARE ENOUGH VOTES TO SEND IT TO COUNCIL IF, IF IT, IF IT DOESN'T PREVAIL HERE, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSING YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A BAR.

I'M NOT OPPOSING YOU, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, I MAY END UP THERE.

WHO KNOWS? I MAY SHOW UP .

BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT, UM, WE GAVE YOU SOME TIME AND, AND THAT WAS A GOOD INDICATOR TO ME OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

NOTHING HAPPENED AND THAT, THAT BOTHERS ME.

SO I AM GOING TO OPPOSE, MAYBE IT'LL PASS.

CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON? YES.

THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS.

I DO, I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

CLIFF KEEPS SAYING THAT NOTHING HAPPENED, BUT MR. SHELDON SAYS THEY DID MEET WITH DUNN, AND SO I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME, UM, LACK OF CLARITY IN, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? WHAT? I THINK THERE'S SOME LACK OF CLARITY AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HE DID AND WHO HE ACTUALLY MET WITH.

HE SAYS HE WENT TO THE A B C CLIFF.

UH, CLEVE DUNN HAS A, AN OFFICE AT THE A B C BOARD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, CLIFF KEEPS TALKING ABOUT HE DIDN'T TRY.

SOUNDS LIKE HE DID TRY, BUT THIS MAN DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES THAT CLIFF IS LOOKING FOR.

MR. SHELDON SAID THEY DID TRY TO MEET WITH DUNN, AND SO I WANT TO KEEP MY MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THIS CASE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STERLING, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONER? IF NOT, I THINK IT WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE A ROLL CALL, VOTE ON ITEM EIGHT, CASE 37 23.

2083.

DALLAS DRIVE.

MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND SECONDED IS TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? NO.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON? YES.

COMMISSIONER BOYD? YES.

COMMISSIONER ELLEN? NO.

COMMISSIONER SCROGGS? NO.

COMMISSIONER STERLING? YES.

IT HAS FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

THIS ITEM FAILS FOR LACK OF FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

THIS ITEM WILL GO ON TO COUNCIL MR. POLL AND COUNCIL'S ZONING ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023 FOR CONSIDERATION.

CASE 39 23 1 1 0 2 3 DEVAL LANE CASE 39 DASH 23 1 1 0 2 3 DEVAL LANE.

AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE,

[9. Case 39-23 11023 Devall Lane]

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST SIDE OF DEVAL LANE, NORTH OF BLUNT ROAD COUNCIL, DISTRICT TWO BANKS.

THE APPLICANT IS GREGORY DUKES.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL ONE LC ONE.

THE FUTURE BELAN DESIGNATION IS EMPLOYMENT CENTER CASE 39 DASH TWENTY THREE ONE TEN TWO THREE DEVAL LANE.

STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE, INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK, UH, OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

UH, GOOD DAY COUNCIL COMMISSION.

SORRY.

I'M GREG DUKES AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT H AND H SECURITY GROUP, L L C.

AND WHAT WE ARE, WE, WE ARE AN UNARMED SECURITY GUARD GROUP AND, UH, SORRY, I'M NERVOUS, .

IT'S OKAY.

PUBLIC SPEAKER.

BUT ANYWAY, SO WHAT WE

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DOING IS, UM, IT'S AN EMPTY LOT.

WE'RE GONNA INSTALL A PREFAB BUILDING THERE FOR OFFICES FOR THAT BUSINESS.

AND IF THE ONLY PROBLEM I SEE WOULD BE IF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THE ENTRANCE ON BLUNT ROAD INSTEAD OF THE ENTRANCE ON THE BALL LANE, IF THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

BUT BESIDES THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN SEE CAUSE A PROBLEM.

AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS TO APPROVE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LANDER.

AND I KNOW, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS, UH, INITIALLY HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THIS.

UH, DO YOU KNOW WHERE SHE IS CURRENTLY? YEAH.

I SPOKE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER AND COUNCILWOMAN BANKS THIS MORNING.

SHE WAS ABLE TO, TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE APPLICANT.

UH, THEY HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION AND SHE IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

49 23, CASE 49 DASH 23 1 0 1 5 0 1 0 3 9 0 1 0 4 2 0 1 0 6 6 0, AND 1 0 7 5 0 PQ LANE.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM 18, CASE

[18. Case 49-23 10150, 10390, 10420, 10660 and 10750 Pecue Lane]

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST SIDE OF PQ LANE BETWEEN HIGHLAND ROAD AND PERKINS ROAD COUNCIL.

DISTRICT THREE GDE.

THE APPLICANT IS RODDY GDE.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AGRICULTURE, ONE R E A ONE PROPOSED USE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THE FUTURE BUREAU LANE'S DESIGNATION IS AGRICULTURAL RURAL CASE, 49 DASH 23 1 0 1 5 0 1 0 3 9 0 1 0 4 2 0 1 0 6 6 0, AND 1 0 7 5 0 PQ LANE.

THIS ITEM, UH, HAS RECEIVED SEVEN MESSAGES WE HAVE RECEIVED IN SUPPORT AND 13 MESSAGES INTO OPPOSITION.

I DO NEED TO STATE ON THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ITEM THAT WILL BE, UH, TAKEN SEPARATELY, BUT ITEM 49, I CAN CONFIRM THAT ALL PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE SIGNED THE APPLICATION REQUESTING TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES REZONED FROM RURAL TO R E A ONE.

COUNCILMAN GDAY HAS MET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, LISTED ON THE APPLICATION AND SUPPORTS THE REZONING FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, BEING THAT THE APPLICANT IS COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, GOE, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL MEMBER WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT, UH, TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, UH, SPEAKER COURTS THAT ARE IN FAVOR, UH, BEGINNING WITH JOE TORITO.

ALL, UH, ALL THE LAWS AND ORDINANCES HAVE BEEN MET.

EVENING, I'M JOE TORITO, LIVE AT 1 0 4 2 OH PICO LANE, ONE OF THE, UH, APP, UH, ONE OF THE LOTS THAT'S, UH, REQUESTING THIS REZONING.

UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OWNERS OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES AND ALL, AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, UH, PLANNING AND, UH, COUNCILMAN GO DAY AND HUDSON, UH, TO, TO REQUEST THIS RESOLVING AND ALL.

UM, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS STATED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST TO REZO IS AN, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S IN ACCORD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WITH ALL THE CITY PARISH ORDINANCES AND ALL, UH, AS PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE REZONING, UH, AS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES ALONG PKU LANE BETWEEN PERKINS AND HIGHLAND.

UH, THEY'RE ALL, UH, ONE ACRE OR MORE ALREADY.

THERE ARE, UH, THERE IS A A P Q S A SUBDIVISION THAT, UH, THERE'S A 9.2 ACRE, UH, SUBDIVISION THAT, UH, HAS EIGHT HOMES IN IT.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY, YOU HAVE, UH, ONE HOUSE ON A LITTLE OVER ONE ACRE THERE, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT ALL ONE ACRE LOTS.

BUT, UH, THE POINT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH, UH, IN THE STATE SECTION, UH, OF THE TOWN AND ALL, AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF TRY TO, UH, MAINTAIN THAT, UH, THAT ESTATE, UH, THAT ONE ACRE ESTATE.

LOTS AND

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AND, UH, UH, THE RE UH, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE BR PLAN AND, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RURAL REAL ESTATE AGRICULTURE.

UH, AND AS, UH, UH, AS, UH, MR. HOLCOMB HAS STATED, UH, MR. GOE AND, UH, MR. HUDSON, UH, SPONSORING THIS FOR US, IT'S A WAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, WORK WITH THE, OUR, OUR CITY PARISH GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO, UH, TO, TO COME TO TERMS AND, AND TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO WORK OUT SOME ISSUES IN, IN OUR AREA.

AND ALL THIS IS STRICTLY VOLUNTARY.

NOBODY'S BEING FORCED TO DO ANYTHING.

UH, AND, UH, THE, UH, ITEM 50 23 IS BASICALLY THE, THE, THE SAME ISSUES.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE IN FAVOR, BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

THOSE ARE FOR TYLER FRANKLIN AND PEGGY DAIGLE.

WE HAVE SEVERAL CARDS THAT FOR, THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM.

UH, THE FIRST IS FOR ED KRAMER.

AND LASTLY, INCONSISTENT PRACTICES.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ED KRAMER, 1 0 4 7 3 PQ LANE.

THIS APPLICATION IS NOT ABOUT ANYTHING NEW.

IT'S ALL ABOUT LIMITING.

HOWEVER, THIS REQUEST ALSO HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT CANNOT BE IGNORED.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? FIRST, PROPERTY TAXES, THIS TYPE OF ZONING, HYPER RESTRICTIVE ZONING CAN LOWER THE ASSESSED VALUE OF PROPERTIES.

PROPERTIES.

VALUES ON TAX ROLL ESTIMATES SUGGEST THAT THIS COULD REACH UP TO 2.5 MILLION DUE TO RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.

THIS COULD TRANSLATE TO AN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE LOSS OF AROUND 48,000 TO THE CITY.

EVEN IF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY VALUES INCREASE, IT CAN CREATE A TAX SAVING WINDFALL FOR THE APPLICANTS SECOND DENIAL OF QUALITY OF LIFE.

FOR OTHERS, I'VE GOT MINE.

TOUGH LUCK.

FOR THE REST.

APPLICANTS ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF LIVING NEAR BRAND NEW INTERSTATE ACCESS AND HIGHLAND ROAD PARK, BUT THEREFORE PREVENTING OTHERS FROM HAVING THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES.

OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IS SPENT ON WIDENING BOTH PCU LANE IN PERKINS AND A PICU INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE, PLUS THEIR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS LOCATED WITHIN A MILE OF THIS LOCATION, INCLUDING CORPORATE CAMPUSES, HEADQUARTERS, AND MORE.

AND WHAT DO THE APPLICANTS WANT TO ENSURE THAT NO ONE ELSE CAN SHARE IN THE PROXIMITY OF THESE CONVENIENCES, CONVENIENCES THAT THEY THEMSELVES ENJOY? BY GRANTING THIS REQUEST, WE'RE LETTING THE APPLICANTS OFF THE HOOK FROM SHOULDERING THEIR FAIR SHARE TO OUR CITY'S GROWTH.

INSTEAD, WE ARE SADDLING OTHERS WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

IF THIS APPLICATION PASSES LIMITING GROWTH IN NON FLOOD HIGH INFRASTRUCTURE AREAS WOULD PUSH PEOPLE TOWARD FLOOD PRONE AREAS OF THE CITY.

WHEN DEVELOPMENTS ARISE THERE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE HARD PRESSED TO REJECT THEM.

OTHERWISE, IT WILL BE ARBITRARY.

THIS DILEMMA IS SIGNIFICANT AND IN MY VIEW, NOT WORTH THE CONSEQUENCE.

THE STRAIGHTFORWARD SOLUTION TO, EXCUSE ME, ALL THIS, DENY THE REQUEST.

ALL THE APPLICANTS HAVE TO DO IS JUST DON'T BUILD ANYTHING OR THEY CAN FILE PROPERTY RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR LAND.

ZONING IS NOT TO BE USED AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR PROPERTY RESTRICTIONS.

WE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT THE REQUESTED ACTIONS HAVE FAR REACHING AND SOMETIMES COUNTERPRODUCTIVE CONSEQUENCES.

THE APPLICANTS MUST BE TOLD NO AND PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES, SHARE IN A FAIR BURDEN OF TRAFFIC AND DEVELOPMENT LIKE ALL OF US DO IN THE CITY, AND PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO LIVE NEAR THEIR WORK AND BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE PARK, WHICH WE ALL PAY FOR, AND FLOOD FREE LAND THAT THEY ENJOY AS WELL.

THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY BATON ROUGE.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

TRAFFIC CANNOT BE ALLEVIATED BY ONLY IMPROVING CERTAIN AREAS, WHICH IS WHY OVER A BILLION DOLLARS IS GOING TO BE SPENT IMPROVING BATON ROUGE INTERSTATE SYSTEM AND ITS COLLECTOR ROADS.

OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR SUTTER KRAMER.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.

ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SUTTER KRAMER.

I'M IN CIVIL ENGINEERING SPECIALIZING IN LAND DEVELOPMENT AT O S U.

I'M IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING CASE.

THIS REZONING CASE GOES AGAINST ALL INFRASTRUCTURE, DRAINAGE, AND ESPECIALLY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT THIS PARISH HAS BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO IMPROVE.

CONNECTIVITY IS WHAT BATON ROUGE RESIDENTS WANT AND NEED.

THIS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PLUS PQ LANE AND PERKINS ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WILL HELP EVENLY SPREAD OUT CONGESTION AND WILL MAKE THE FLOW RATE OF CARS MORE FLUID THROUGHOUT THE PARISH.

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PIRU LANE IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR ROAD THAT WILL BE USED TO FUNNEL THIS NEW INTERCHANGE.

THERE IS NOT ONE INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE IN BATON ROUGE THAT HAS NOT EXPERIENCED LARGE AND RAPID GROWTH SINCE IT WAS COMPLETED.

PIRU LANE IS NO DIFFERENT TO LIMIT GROWTH ALONG A FUTURE MAJOR CORRIDOR GOES AGAINST PLANNING COMMISSION'S GOALS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S WEBSITE.

I QUOTE, PLANNING REPRESENTS THE PROCESS OF REGULATING THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT TO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY WITH BETTER CHOICES OF WHERE AND HOW PEOPLE LIVE.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION TO IS TO PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE IS AVAILABLE AND TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE IS OBSOLETE.

WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE CONVENIENTLY CLOSE TO AN INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE AND BE ABLE TO WORK NEAR WHERE YOU LIVE? THE HISTORICAL LOT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS AN EXCUSE THAT THESE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN USING TO CONTROL ADJACENT LANDOWNERS.

AS ANYONE CAN CLEARLY SEE, BATON ROUGE IS GROWING AND WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

EAST BATON ROUGE.

PARIS HAS TO SUPPORT THIS GROWTH THROUGH NEW HOMES AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

HISTORY IS A STORY OF THE PAST AND THIS IS THE FUTURE.

BUILDING HOMES ON HIGH ON HIGH LAND HAS BEEN OCCURRING SINCE THE START OF TIME TO PREVENT HOMES FROM FLOODING.

GROW SHOULD BE PROMOTED IN THESE AREAS TO PREVENT DEVELOPMENTS IN FLOOD ZONES LIKE ALONG BURBANK.

I WISH YOU COULD HELP OUT THE ENTIRE HARDWORKING TAXPAYER IN THE PARISH BY NOT LIMITING GROWTH WHERE SO MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN INVESTED TO HELP TRAFFIC AND PROMOTE GROWTH.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON? YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL CARS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION, BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

THOSE ARE FOR HELEN VALDI AND DONNA SKILLY AT THIS TIME, WELL, I DON'T, WE WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICANT, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO, UH, GIVE A REBUTTAL.

SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

I, I TOO, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

I DON'T HAVE AN APPLICANT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS TO AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ASK THE RESIDENCE.

BET I'M GONNA TRY.

UM, WHO WAS THE FIRST GENTLEMAN WHO CAME UP TO THE MIC TO SPEAK AND OPPOSITION OR MR. MR? NO, IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM ITSELF? MR. TORITO DORITO.

MR. DORITO, CAN YOU COME BACK UP, MR. RITO, IF YOU COULD COME BACK TO THE MIC PLEASE.

YOU ARE ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE 14.5 ACRES OF THIS, UM, THESE TRACKS OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEING REZONED.

AM I CORRECT? YES, SIR.

AND, UM, I'M, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE MAP TO UNDERSTAND THAT HOW THESE PROPERTIES ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE SUBDIVIDED.

I SEE FIVE, FIVE RED AREAS ON THE MAP ITSELF.

ARE THOSE PROPERTIES GONNA BE AT A CERTAIN, NOT EVEN TO DISTINGUISH FROM THE MAP ITSELF, ARE THEY GONNA BE AT A CERTAIN SIZE? EACH ONE OF THOSE, EACH, EACH ONE, UH, IS, IS ALREADY ITS OWN PROPERTY.

SO, UH, WE'RE, SO WHY WOULD WE, TO BUILD A SUBDIVISION THERE, WE'RE JUST BASICALLY RE UH, WE'RE REZONING OUR PROPERTY TWO, UH, RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE ONE.

UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE, UH, YEARS AGO FROM THE GET GO, UH, PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD WAS BASICALLY CONSIDERED A STATE PROPERTY.

AND, UH, THE PROPERTIES ON ED SIDE OF THE ROAD WE'RE ROUGHLY FIVE ACRES.

EACH PROPERTIES ON MY SIDE OF THE ROAD, WERE USUALLY SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO ACRES TO, TO MORE, YOU KNOW, THREE.

UH, AND AND EVEN I THINK THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO 12 OR 15 ACRES, I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT IT WAS ALSO BROKEN UP INTO, UH, SMALLER LOTS, LIKE A TWO ACRE TO, TO THREE ACRE LOTS.

SO WE'RE JUST BASICALLY WANTING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.

UH, WE REALIZE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA PLACES THAT'S GONNA HAVE, UH, 30 FOOT OR 50 FOOT OR WHATEVER SIZE LOT THAT THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S NICE.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING.

AND, AND IN OUR CASE, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN, IN A STATE, UH, LANE THERE WITH THE STATE PROPERTIES BETWEEN PERKINS AND HIGHLAND.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY, WE JUST WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO AVOID ANY TAXES.

MATTER OF FACT, ONE STUDY THAT WAS DONE, UH, THE LARGER HOMES AND THE LARGER, UH, UH, LOTS WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING MORE TAXES THAN THE SMALLER ONES.

SO, UH, I I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS TODAY, BUT I KNOW AROUND 2 20 14, 20 15 OR SO, THE, THE STUDY

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THAT WAS QUOTED SHOWED THAT, UH, THE LARGER LOTS AND LARGER HOMES ACTUALLY PAID MORE TAXES.

I GUESS THAT'S NOT, I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENTARY ON THAT PIECE, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPELLING REASON WHY YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING THIS AS A LANDOWNER.

I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT COMPELLED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO DO IT.

NO.

AND YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO USE YOUR PROPERTY AS YOU SEE FIT IF YOU OWN IT.

EXACTLY.

SO, SO THAT, AND WE WANT, WE WANT TO ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, LARGER SIZED LOTS AS AS WE WOULD LIKE TO BE LIVING ON.

IN OTHER WORDS, UH, IF ANOTHER PERSON CHOOSES TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THEIR PROPERTY, WE CAN'T STOP THEM.

BUT NEITHER SHOULD WE BE STOPPED TO, TO, TO MAINTAIN, UH, ONE AC ONE HOUSE PER ACRE ON OUR PROPERTY.

OF COURSE, NOBODY CAN COMPEL YOU TO DO THAT.

IF YOU WANNA BE A ONE HOUSE ON AN ACRE PROPERTY, THAT'S YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY, IT'S ONE ACRE OF FIVE ACRES.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF A 14 ACRE TRACK OF PROPERTY BEING ASKED TO, TO THE GOVERNMENT TO, TO MAKE IT RA ONE OR A ONE, WHATEVER RESIDENTIAL IS, I MEAN, MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE YOUR REASONS FOR WANTING TO KEEP YOUR PROPERTY AS IT IS, AND THAT'S OKAY.

I MEAN, BUT THIS WAS MADE BY APPLICANT, BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER, AND, AND HE IS NOT HERE TO COMPEL TO TELL US WHY.

AND I'M JUST ASKING THE RESIDENT TO GIMME SOME CLARITY AS TO HOW WE GOT HERE, AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE.

SO IT'S A LITTLE STRETCH FOR ME TO ASK YOU THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS.

SO I UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, SO YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH YOUR PROPERTY.

IF YOU OWN TWO ACRES IN HERE, YOU WANNA LEAVE AT 800 RESIDENTIAL, PUT ONE HOUSE ON IT.

NOBODY CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU PUT ONE HOUSE ON IT.

WE MIGHT TELL YOU CAN'T PUT TWO, WE CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU CAN'T PUT ONE HOUSE PER AC IF YOU OWN TWO ACRES.

I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT PART, BUT AGAIN, IF I CAN'T GET ANY CLARITY OF THAT, I UNDERSTAND IT AND I'M GONNA BE DEFENSE WITH HAVING THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THE MEMBERS OF ACCOUNT THIS COMMISSION TIME UP.

SO, SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU WANT TO USE YOUR PROPERTY THAT WAY, THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY.

MR. KRAMER, CAN YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? I DID GET YOUR, YES, SIR.

I, I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE LIMITATION OF GROWTH THAT YOU, YOU REFERRED TO, WELL, AS YOUR SON REFERRED TO, AS TO HOW DOES THIS LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR ANY GROWTH IN THE AREA AND THE USE OF WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING IN THAT CORRIDOR.

HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THIS PROPERTY DO THAT WHEN A PERSON CHOOSES THEY WANT TO USE THEIR TWO ACRES TO DO ONE HOUSE ON IT OR DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, HOW DOES THAT LIMIT OR AFFECT YOUR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES? WELL, WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

AND WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS HERE, THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY APPLICANTS, NINE APPLICANTS, AND MOST OF 'EM ALREADY HAVE A HOUSE WITH A LOT ON IT.

SO THEY'RE ASKING TO REZONE THEIR, THEIR HOUSE.

THERE'S ONE TRACT THAT'S 10 ACRES THAT DOESN'T, I THINK IT HAS ONE HOUSE ON IT.

IT'S DR.

DIA'S HOUSE.

HE'S TWO DOWN FROM ME.

THERE'S ONLY REALLY THREE DEVELOPABLE TRACKS LEFT MYSELF, UH, BERNIE MARETTA, HE LIVES NEXT TO ME.

AND THEN, AND THEN MINE, I HAVE FIVE.

HE HAS FIVE, AND THEN DAMIA HAS 10, BUT WE'VE BEEN UP HERE LIKE TWO OR THREE TIMES ALREADY.

AND, AND I HAVEN'T ASKED TO REZONE ANYTHING REALLY.

IT'S ALL BEEN THE, THE, THE, THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO LIKE CHANGE THE FUTURE PLAN OR GO BEHIND, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THEY'RE DOING THE PICO LANE INTERCHANGE AND PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE GETTING NERVOUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? IT'S GONNA BE THESE 30 FOOT LOTS OR 10 FOOT LOTS OR WHATEVER.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS LIKE, OH, LET'S REZONE OUR LAND AT ONE LOT PER ACRE.

LET'S DO THIS.

AND IN ANTICIPATION OF ME, LIKE, I JUST HAVE THIS LAND.

I HAVE A CAMP THERE, WE HAVE SOME LITTLE HORSES OUT THERE.

WE'RE, WE HADN'T ASKED FOR ANY REZONING.

AND IT'S ALL THIS BIG CONTROVERSY.

PEOPLE GET NERVOUS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT ZONING ON THINGS, KNEE JERK REACTION WHEN PEOPLE CAN JUST RESTRICT THEIR LAND OR WHATEVER.

BUT PROPERLY, IF I CAME BEFORE YOU AND SAID, HEY, I WANNA DEVELOP MY LAND, HERE'S A PLAN, THEN SURELY IT'S, IT'S FAIR GAME.

BUT TRY TO DO IT IN ADVANCE AND SAY, BECAUSE I KNOW, WELL, IF THIS PASSES AND WE HAVE THIS ESTATE ONE LOT PER ACRE ON THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE A TOOTH MISSING, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLOTS, YOU COME UP AND THEN SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA IS ONE LOT PER ACRE, A STATE.

AND SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 4.83 ACRES, YOU CAN ONLY DO, YOU KNOW, FOUR LOTS AS OPPOSED TO, I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE, THE FUTURE DIRECTION OF THAT AREA, BECAUSE AN INTERCHANGE ON THE INTERSTATE IS LESS THAN ONE MILE FROM HERE IS GONNA BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.

IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT PROFESSIONALS DECIDE.

BUT, BUT LIMITING NOW TO ONE LOT PER ACRE, PARTICULARLY WITH ALL THIS MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING, IS NOT FUTURE THINKING.

IT'S, IT'S LOOKING BACK AND SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW IT WAS WHEN IT WAS A COUNTRY ROAD.

LET'S LOCK THAT IN.

UH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT IF THIS COMMISSION OR THIS COUNCIL IS FAIR, IT, IT TAKES EACH APPLICANT ON HIS OWN MERIT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

I, I UNDERSTAND I, AND I, AND I TRIED TO, WHEN I ASKED THE PERSON TO COME TO THE MIC, ALLOW OF THEM TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.

BUT, YOU KNOW,

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AND IF THESE OWNERS WISH TO PUT THEIR PROPERTY IN THIS CONVEYING AND PUT IT IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, POSTURE, THAT'S THEIR DEAL.

BUT THE REALITY IS, I THINK THIS COUNCIL AND THIS FA THIS, THIS GOVERNMENT AND THIS BODY SHOULD BE FAIR.

IF YOU WANNA MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR YOUR PROPERTY, THEN YOU DO.

I'VE LISTENED TO YOU.

I'VE HAD YOUR MOMENT TO SAY WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY.

I DID NOT DISTURB YOU.

SO, SO, SO ALL I SAY IS THAT IF, IF YOU CHOOSE IN THE FUTURE TO DO SO, AND YOU'VE SAID YOU DID NOT, I DON'T THINK THE IDEA OF THIS APPLICATION OR THESE INDIVIDUALS PUTTING THEIR PROPERTY OFF FOR THE RESTRICTIONS SHOULD BE ANY VARIANCE ON YOU.

YOU SHOULD MAKE YOUR OWN CASE, WHETHER YOU OWN 14 ACRES OR 14,000 ACRES, YOU SHOULD MAKE YOUR CASE BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO AT YOUR PROPERTY.

AND WHILE THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE HAPPENS TO BE THE COUNCIL MEMBER, THE IMPACT ON THOSE WHO HAS 10 ACRES OR 10,000 ACRES WOULD BE BASED ON THEIR OWN MERITS.

AND I, MR. RITO AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY WHO CHOOSE TO WANNA LOCK THEIR PROPERTY IN AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I CAN SAY, WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AS WELL, BUT IT'S YOUR PROPERTY.

IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT ONE ACRE HOUSE PER ACRE AND YOU OWN IT, THEN I'M VERY MUCH A STICKLER FOR LETTING THE PEOPLE MAKE THEIR CHOICES.

AND IF THEY DO, SO WE'VE HAD PEOPLE IN THAT CORRIDOR IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY.

AND IN SOME CASES THEY WERE REJECTED MULTIPLE TIMES, AND THEN WE SAW FIT TO LET THEM MOVE FORWARD ON USE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

IF YOU BELIEVE, BASED ON THIS ACTION TODAY, THAT IN THE FUTURE IT IS GONNA PROHIBIT, UH, OR PROHIBIT YOU FROM USING YOUR PROPERTY, I THINK THAT ARGUMENT MIGHT COME TO COME TO BEAR.

AND THERE'LL BE PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE WANT ONE, ONE LOT PER ACRE, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL LOOKING TO TRY TO MAKE ONE LOT PER ACRE IN RURAL AREAS ACROSS THIS PARISH.

IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSE TO DEEM THAT'S NECESSARY, THEN THAT'S ONE THING, BUT YOU'LL STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT YOUR ITEM BEFORE THIS BODY AND MAKE A MARITAL CASE AS WHY YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE YOUR PROPERTY AS YOU SEE FIT, JUST AS THESE APPLICANTS THROUGH THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE DONE.

FOR THAT.

MR. MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND FROM COM FROM COMMISSIONER LANDER? UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION.

UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GROP, UH, UH, AGAIN, I, I WANT TO, UH, I WANNA PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER ADDISON SAID, UH, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT UNDER THE CURRENT, UH, FUTURE, UH, UH, FUTURE BR THESE AREAS ARE ALREADY RESTRICTED.

ALL OF THAT AREA IS ALREADY RESTRICTED TO ONE, ONE HOUSE PER ACRE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT, WITH THIS, I KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH FUTURE BE RIGHT NOW, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT, UH, THERE COULD BE CHANGES TO THIS COMING THROUGH, PARTICULARLY WITH THAT INTERCHANGE.

AND, UH, MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF LOTS AND WE'VE GOT, UH, 15 ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OR ON THE LEFT SIDE, IF YOU WILL, AND I'VE GOT 12 ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE.

UM, IS MR. TORITO STILL HERE? LEMME JUST STOP YOU.

I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.

UH, BOTH MYSELF, UH, THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND BOTH COUNCILMEN WHO ARE APPLICANTS TO THIS, UH, TO THIS APPLICATION AND THE NEXT APPLICATION HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH THIS GENTLEMAN BEFORE.

AND, AND REGARDING FUTURE BR AND THIS AREA, WE, WE BOTH ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, COLLECTIVELY THAT THIS AREA IS SEEING CHANGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

AND, UH, WE, WE THOUGHT WE HAD A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF, UM, BOTH THE UPDATE TO FUTURE BR AND, UH, THIS APPLICATION AND THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROPERTY.

MY, MY, MY CONCERN IS, OR MY QUESTION IS TO MR. TORITO, IF HE'S STILL HERE, THERE ARE, AT LEAST AT MY ROUGH COUNT, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 15 LOTS ON, UH, COUNCILMAN GOD'S SIDE AND 12 ON COUNCILMAN HUDSON'S SIDE.

UH, I SEE THAT ONLY FIVE, UH, ARE ASKING FOR THIS.

WERE ALL THE OTHER, WERE ALL THE OTHER, UH, OWNERS ASKED.

THERE'S CIRCUMSTANCES THAT OTHERS COULD NOT BE IN INVOLVED IN THIS.

THEY WANTED TO, OKAY, TWO, TWO OWNERS HAVE PASSED AWAY.

OKAY, BUT, BUT THEY WERE ASKED, CORRECT? THEY WERE ASKED.

PASSED AWAY WERE NOT ABLE TO SIGN ANYTHING? I UNDERSTAND BEFORE THEIR PASSING, OTHERS HAD, UH, A LOT WAS CUT INTO TWO, THE LOT NEXT TO THE NURSERY WAS, UH, ONE LOT WAS CUT INTO TWO.

BUT, BUT, UH, BUT ONLY, BUT ONLY FIVE.

WELL, ONLY FIVE OUT OF THE 15, UH, ACCEPTED IT.

CORRECT.

CAN, CAN, CAN I REITERATE THOUGH, THE THE TWO THAT

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BUT, BUT MY, MY QUESTION REMAINS, WERE THEY ASKED THAT'S A, THAT'S A SIMPLE YAY OR NAY.

OH, I'M SORRY.

AND, AND ON BOTH SIDES AND, AND MORE WILL COME LATER.

WELL, I, I'M, I'M TAKING UP WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ADDISON SAID, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU ALL WANNA DO THIS AND KEEP YOUR PROPERTY THAT WAY, THAT'S FINE, BUT IF SOMEONE NEXT TO YOU DOESN'T, THIS SHOULD NOT BECOME A PRECEDENT.

UM, THIS SHOULDN'T SET A PRECEDENT TO FORCE THEM, UH, TO GO TO THIS.

WELL, THEY HAVE A RIGHT, RIGHT.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO IT.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT.

AND I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.

UH, I'M GOING TO, UH, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO IMPOSE ANYTHING.

I'M SUPPORT YOU.

I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION THAT, UH, THAT THIS ON BOTH.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M GONNA THIRD SECOND AGAIN, YOUR, UH, YOUR, UM, UH, YOUR MOTION.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

UH, THAT MOTION WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ER.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM 19, CASE

[19. Case 50-23 10345, 10381 and 10709 Pecue Lane]

50 23.

NOW, THANK YOU.

CASE 50 DASH 23 1 0 3 4 5 1 0 3 8 1 AND 1 0 7 0 9 PQ LANE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST SIDE OF PQ LANE BETWEEN HIGHLAND ROAD AND PERKINS ROAD COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE HUDSON.

THE APPLICANT IS DWIGHT HUDSON.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AGRICULTURE, ONE R E A ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THE FUTURE BUREAU LANE USE DESIGNATION IS AGRICULTURAL RURAL CASE 50 DASH 23 1 0 3 4 5 1 0 3 8 1, AND 1 0 7 0 9 PQ LANE.

STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR CHANGE OF A ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.

WE'VE RECEIVED SEVEN MESSAGES IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM AS WELL, AND 13 MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION.

AGAIN, THIS ITEM'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE PROPERTIES ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, AND THE APPLICANT, UH, IS COUNCILMAN HUDSON.

AGAIN, ALL PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE SIGNED THE APPLICATIONS CONSENTING, UH, THE REQUEST TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES REZONED FROM RURAL TO R E A ONE.

AGAIN, COUNCILMAN HUDSON IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION AND COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S, UH, AGAIN, NOT HERE, AND WE HAVE A STACK OF CARDS THAT IS ALMOST A DUPLICATE OF THE STACK FOR THE PREVIOUS ITEM, GIVEN THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE TWO ITEMS, UH, THE FIRST CARD IS FOR JOE TORITO.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONALLY THAT, THAT NEED, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? FOR THE RECORD, MR. TORITO, JUST TO BE BRIEF, UH, I SPOKE WITH BILL DEIA, WHO OWNS, UH, TWO TWO SEPARATE OF THESE PROPERTIES.

HE IS, UH, HIGHLY IN, IN FAVOR OF HAVING THIS APPROVED AND ON THIS PROPERTY.

I'VE AL ALSO TALKED TO MRS. BERNARD, UM, I'M SORRY, BRUCE ART, WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

UH, AND SHE IS, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO GO FORWARD WITH HER, UH, REZONING OF HER PROPERTY.

MR. UH, DAMIA IS TAKING CARE OF HIS WIFE, WHO IS SICK, SO HE COULD NOT BE HERE.

AND, UH, AS I SAID, THEY'RE BOTH WANTING TO ZO THEIR PROPERTY TO R E A ONE.

IT AFFECTS ME AS A LANDOWNER IS BECAUSE THE U D C REQUIRES THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WHAT IS THE ZONING IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

WE HAVE THE TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, CARDS IN FAVOR OF, BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK FROM P PEGGY D**O AND TYLER FRANKLIN, WE HAVE, UH, THE SPEAKER CORDS IN OPPOSITION FOR MR. KRAMER.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING, MR. KRAMER? IF YOU DO SO, IF YOU DO IT, IT'D HAVE TO BE AT THE MIC.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BURN, BURN THOSE CALORIES TO GET UP HERE THERE, .

I, I, I, I WOULD LOVE TO, BUT I, I, I, I REALIZE HOW THIS IS GONNA TURN OUT.

THERE IS A POINT ORDER I WOULD LIKE TO, TO, I MEAN, NOT A POINT OF, A COUPLE OF FACTS I THINK SHOULD BE ADDED.

THREE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY, AND NONE OF THEM INCLUDED ONE LOT PER ACRE.

UH, PULA ESTATES LESS THAN ONE LOT PER ACRE.

VALHALLA SUBDIVISION AND ANOTHER ONE BY OUR FRIEND JOE BEON.

AND EACH OF THESE WAS LESS THAN ONE LOT PER ACRE.

THESE HOMES ARE, ARE SELLING THE RANGE OF OVER $2 MILLION.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE LOT PER ACRE IS NOT REALLY A, A STRETCH.

UM, THE REASON THAT, UM, MR. GROUT, THAT THERE'S FIVE OUT OF 15 IS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

UM, IT'S, IT'S PORTRAYED THAT THE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA, BUT IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA.

AND THE REASON THAT

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AND WHEN THE ZONING IN THE SURROUNDING AREA IS ONE LOT PER ACRE, IT DOES AFFECT ME AS A, AS A LANDOWNER IN THIS AREA.

AND SO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA IS NOT ONE LOT PER ACRE, ALTHOUGH THE NEW ZONING IS, AND THAT CAN AFFECT ME AS A LANDOWNER.

AND THAT'S HOW THIS, THAT'S HOW THIS DOES AFFECT ME.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR SUTTER KRAMER.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? OKAY.

AND WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL, UH, CARD THAT IS IN OPPOSITION, BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK FOR HELEN VALDI.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR EMOTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT MOTION TO APPROVE.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER GROUT TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ELLEN, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? I COMMENT ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? YES, COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

THANK YOU MUCH.

MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.

I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT I, WHILE, WHILE MR. KRAMER HAS MADE A GREAT ARGUMENT REGARDING WHAT THE FUTURE USE OF HIS PROPERTY COULD BE AND IMPACT ON THIS, I, I CERTAINLY WOULD SAY TO HIM AND TO HIS FORMER RESIDENTS WHO CHOOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE, UH, IN THIS REZONING INITIATIVE THAT I THINK IF THEY BRING IT BEFORE THIS COMMISSION AND I'M ON HERE, I'M GONNA GIVE THEM FAIR CONSIDERATION THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S ONE LOT PER ACRE, WHETHER IT'S A HALF, A LOT PER ACRE.

AND I'LL LOOK AT THAT MERIT BASED ON THE APPLICATION.

AND IF THESE GENTLEMEN OR THESE LADIES WISH TO USE THEIR PROPERTY AND THEIR AND THEIR WISHES, WE WILL GRANT THEM WHAT THEY ASK FOR.

AND IF IN THE FUTURE YOU GUYS COME BACK AND ASK FOR A HALF A LOT PER ACRE AND YOU GET IT, THEN THEY'LL BE THE ONES WHO HAVE A LOSS IN THEIR FINANCIAL REVENUE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

BUT I WOULD NOT TELL ANOTHER APPLICANT ANOTHER PERSON HOW TO USE THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY.

SO WHILE YOUR ARGUMENT MAY HAVE VALIDITY, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, I THINK YOU NEED TO FILE YOUR APPLICATION TO BRING IT BEFORE THIS BODY.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE NOW CAN MOVE TO THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

ITEM 21,

[21. CS-13-23 S.D. Porter Tract]

CSS 1323 CS DASH 13 DASH 23 SSD PORTER TRACK FLAG LOT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH SIDE OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY WEST OF BLUE BARN BOULEVARD COUNCIL DISTRICT 11 ADAMS. THE APPLICANT IS THOMAS M LUSKO.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A COMMERCIAL FLAG LOT MINOR SUBDIVISION WITH THREE LOTS.

THE FUTURE BUREAU LANE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD CS DASH 13 DASH 23 SD PORTER TRACK FLAG LOT STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, MY NAME IS FABIAN EDWARDS.

UM, I'M MS. THE APPLICANT, MR. TOMMY LUSKO, UM, REPRESENTATIVE, UH, AND HIS REALTOR.

UM, SO I'M PRIMARILY HERE JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS, UH, THAT ANYONE HAS.

SO I'LL, I'LL KEEP THIS INITIAL PORTION, UH, FAIRLY BRIEF.

UM, THE LOT IN QUESTION.

MUNICIPAL ADDRESS 9 5 0 9 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY, UM, IS JUST OVER 1.2 ACRES, DIRECTLY FRONT JEFFERSON, JUST A FEW FEET AWAY FROM THE, UH, BLUE BLUEBONNET INTERSECTION.

UM, WE FEEL OUR, OUR, UH, APPLICATION FOR THE SUBDIVISION, UM, CONVERTING THAT INTO THREE LOTS.

UM, FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UH, THE, THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS, UM, ARE MET, UH, TO HAVE THIS, UH, INTO THREE LOTS.

UM, AND, AND WE HOPE THAT THE, UH, THE COMMISSION WILL APPROVE IT.

THAT'S FOR KEVIN CALHOUN.

THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARD, UH, THAT IS IN FAVOR BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

AND I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND OKAY.

SHE DOESN'T NEED TO SPEAK, BUT SHE IS HERE.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL CARDS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION.

THE FIRST IS FOR BILL BENEDETTO.

PROPERTY OWNED BY THREE DIFFERENT, UH, PEOPLE.

I'M SHORT.

IN 1995 WHEN MY WIFE AND I PURCHASED OUR HOME IN WILLOW RIDGE, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY AND BLUE BONNET AVENUE WAS THREE SEPARATE PIECES OF

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ALL THREE PROPERTIES WERE ZONED AT RESIDENTIAL.

AFTER TWO ATTEMPTS BY WALGREENS AND WON BY RACETRACK GAS STATION TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND BILL ON THE PROPERTY, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THE PROPERTY COULD NOT BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

NOT LONG AFTER THAT RESOURCE BANK CONTACTED ME AND SAID THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND ASKED IF WE WOULD SUPPORT REZONING TO GENERAL OFFICE.

LOW RISE.

AFTER CONSIDERING THE BANK'S OPERATION OPEN FROM NINE TO FIVE, CLOSED ON WEEKENDS AND LOW WALK-IN TRAFFIC, WE AGREED TO SUPPORT THE REZONING.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROPERTY DIRE, UH, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO WILLOW BAY OR WILLOW RIDGE WAS NOT SOLD.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S, UH, BEING TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AGAINST SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY AT 95 0 9 JEFFERSON HIGHWAY.

THIS PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE EAST SIDE OF OUR WILL RIDGE SUBDIVISION AND IS LITERALLY, UH, IN THE BACKYARDS OF SOME OF OUR RESIDENCE.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE PROPERTY WAS RIGHTLY REZONED BY THIS COMMISSION TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS FROM HAVING A MULTI-STORY BUILDING BUILT BY A DEVELOPER IN THEIR BACKYARD.

NOW THE REAL, UH, REALTY COMPANY WANTS TO EITHER CHANGE THE ZONING OR SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY.

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR COUNCILWOMAN IS ACTIVE WITH THE INVOLVE AND INVOLVED WITH THIS, WITH THE REALTY COMPANY IN THIS DIVISION THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BYPASS THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE ZONING AND ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF THREE BUILDINGS.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS, SIR.

I'M SORRY.

ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT WOULD BE ABOUT, BUT WHEN WE SERVED, UH, WHEN I SERVED ON THE BRENT COMMISSION, WE CALLED IT ENHANCED POLITICAL PRESSURE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WAS NOT WHAT WE REALLY CALLED IT.

ALL WE ARE ASKING IS KEEPING EVERYTHING THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING AND ONE PRI A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND DEDICATION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR PAUL SELTZER.

OH, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THE TIME AND Y'ALL DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AND I'M GLAD THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IT.

UH, BUT I, UH, LIVE AT, UH, 9 5, 1100 COURT, BEEN THERE SINCE 1989, AND THE, THE AREA AROUND THERE HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT.

AND I OPPOSE THIS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IS WHY, WHY ARE WE EVEN DOING THIS? WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT SO MANY TIMES AND ALL THE YEARS THAT I'VE, UH, THAT I'VE RESIDED THERE.

FOR ME TO EXIT MY SUBDIVISION ONTO JEFFERSON HIGHWAY OFF OF WILLOW BAY, I HAVE TO TAKE A RIGHT TURN, GO INTO THE HILL TO GO FOUR BLOCKS DOWN, TURN AROUND, COME BACK OUT TO THE LIGHT TO TAKE A LEFT TURN.

NOW WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT AS ONE OFFICE SPACE.

THAT'S GONNA BE BAD ENOUGH IF YOU TRY AND EXIT.

JUST GO TRY AND EXIT ANY DIRECTION OFF OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY FROM THAT PARTICULAR SPACE AND SEE HOW DIFFICULT AND HOW DANGEROUS IT'S GONNA BE.

AND NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT THREE TIMES THAT WE'VE ALREADY CONSENTED TO ONE, WE'VE DONE WHAT THEY'VE ASKED US TO DO, AND I'M OPPOSED TO IT.

AND I THINK THAT Y'ALL OUGHT TO CONSIDER, UH, REJECTING THIS AND LEAVING IT AS IT IS.

WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS TO BEGIN WITH? IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE SINCE 1989.

I'VE BEEN THROUGH IT.

LET'S DON'T MAKE IT MORE DANGEROUS.

LET'S MAKE IT SAFER AND BE WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHEN IT WAS INTENDED TO BE THAT WAY.

OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR DOUGLAS ZAD.

ZAD.

OF OUR PROPERTY FOR, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

DOUGLAS ZOT.

WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY ON, UH, HUNTER'S COURT 21 YEARS AGO, AND WE INSPECTED THE LOTS, THE TWO VACANT LOTS THAT THERE, WELL, THERE WERE TWO VACANT LOTS AND THE LOT THAT SUFFERS QUESTION RIGHT NOW AND INSPECTED THAT THEY WERE A ONE RESIDENTIAL.

WE CHECKED THAT IT HAD AND WENT AHEAD WITH PURCHASE

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SEVERAL PROPOSALS THAT HAVE COME AND GONE WITH THESE TWO LOTS.

AND OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN, HAS BEEN AVAILABLE TO DO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE.

IT WAS MY FEELING THAT BOTH OFFICES BE DEVELOPED TOGETHER CONSIDERING THE LIMITED ACCESS ON JEFFERSON HIGHWAY.

THE MOST RECENT WAS RESOURCE BANK, PROPOSED PURCHASE OF BOTH CORNER LOTS IN WHICH LOT A IS ONE OF RESOURCE BANK WANTED, DEVELOP BOTH LOTS FOR USE AND SUPPORTED THAT USE.

HOWEVER, THE OWNERS OF LOT A, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT SUBJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, REJECTED A PROPOSAL MOST LIKELY FOR RE FINANCIAL REASONS.

AND BY DOING SO, WE FOR RESOURCE BANKS CONTINUED TO PUR TO PURCHASE THE, THE PARALLEL LOT AND SQUEEZE THEIR DEVELOPMENT ONTO, I'M GONNA SAY LOT B IN A VERY TIGHT LIMITED ACCESS.

NOW NO ONE'S FAULT EXCEPT THE OWNER'S OF LOT A, THAT THEY HAVE A LONG AND NARROW LOT WANTING TO GET THE BEST CASE PRICING BECAUSE THEIR OWN SHORT THINKING AND LACK OF WORKING WITH THE OWNER'S LOT.

B, THE PARALLEL LOT IN SUMMATION, I ASK THE CITY PLANNING COMMITTEE TO REJECT ANY INCREASE IN IN ZONING LEVEL OR RE OR RE SUBDIVIDING OF THE SAME LOT ADDITIONAL.

ADDITIONALLY, REQUEST YOU SUPPORT RETURNING THE LOT TO ORIGINAL A ONE STATUS NOW THAT THE PARALLEL LOT THAT RESOURCE BANK HAS IS DEVELOPED, AND THAT WOULD ADDITIONALLY RETURN IT TO THE BATON ROUGE MASTER PLAN STATUS.

OUR NEXT COURT IS FOR KYLE WATERS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MY NAME IS KYLE WATERS.

I LIVE AT 95 10 HUNTER COURT IN WILLOW BAY SUBDIVISION AT THE HEAD OF THE SUBJECT LOT.

UM, I'M OPPOSED TO ANY CHANGE TO THE NUMBER OF OFFICES, UH, ON THIS PROPERTY.

WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SUBSTITUTE 1 2500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FOR UP TO 3 2500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS CRAMMED INTO A LOT, RIGHT CLOSE TO THE SETBACK AND PROPERTY LINES.

AND IT'S SO TIGHT THAT IT REQUIRES, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, APPROVAL OF TWO FLAG LOTS TO MAKE THE PLAN WORK.

COUNCIL WARMING ADAMS, UH, SENT ME GOOGLE MAPS LINKS TO TWO PROPERTIES AS EXAMPLES OF HIGH-END HOMES, A BUDDING, UM, NO ZONING, UM, ZONE BUILDINGS TO SAY THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD WORK OUT.

AND WHILE I DO APPRECIATE, UM, HER HELP TO MEET, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.

HOWEVER, THOSE HOMES ARE VERY LARGE, UH, AND THEY HAVE VERY LARGE BACK LOTS, UH, AND SOME HAVE SWIMMING POOLS.

IF YOU LOOK AT MY HOUSE AT THE TOP OF, AGAIN, AT THE TOP ON HUNTER COURT ARE THE FOLKS ALONG THE FIRST BLOCK OF WILLOW BAY DRIVE.

MOST OF US HAVE VERY SMALL BACK, UH, BACKYARDS ATTACKED AS A SOUND OR A VISUAL BUFFER.

AGAIN, IN ONE OF THE EXAMPLES SENT, UM, I LOOKED DOWN ON GOOGLE EARTH AND SAW THAT THERE WERE FOUR AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSORS AND MAYBE A GENERATOR RIGHT BY THE SETBACK AND PROPERTY LINE.

MY NEIGHBORS OR I WILL DEFINITELY BE SUBJECTED TO SOUND POLLUTION IF WE CRAM THREE BUILDINGS ONTO THAT SLIDE.

AND FROM A TRAFFIC POINT OF VIEW, THOSE OTHER, UH, EXAMPLE HOMES EXIT TO TWO LANE, NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, BLUEBONNET ROAD, NOT BOULEVARD ROAD AND ELEPHANT ROAD, NOT THE CASE WITH WILLOW RIDGE.

WE EXIT ONTO JEFFERSON HIGHWAY AND EXITING ONTO JEFFERSON HIGHWAY TODAY IS ALREADY A DICEY EXPERIENCE GIVEN THAT WE HAVE TO CROSS SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC TO HEAD EAST ON JEFFERSON OR SOUTH ON BLUE BONNET BOULEVARD.

AND AS THE REALTOR'S OWN SALES BROCHURE TRUMPETS THE PROPERTY STATING QUOTE, THE MOST FAMILIAR AND HIGHLY TRAFFICKED INTERSECTION IN ALL OF BATON ROUGE.

SO WE NOW HAVE TO FACE THAT ON TOP OF IT.

IN CLOSING, I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT ANY BUSINESS BEING ON THAT LOT, BUT THAT'S THE RISK THAT I TOOK WHEN I BOUGHT IN WILLOW RIDGE A YEAR AGO.

I TOOK THAT RISK.

THE INVESTOR ALSO TOOK A RISK WHEN HE COULD HAVE SOLD THE LOT AT A HIGHER PRICE WHEN HE TURNED DOWN EARLIER OFFERS TO BUY, BUT AT A LOWER PRICE WHEN THE BANK BOUGHT THE OTHER LOTS.

THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT WELL FOR THE SUBJECT LOT OWNER, BUT THAT WAS THE RISK HE TOOK, NOT US.

SO IN CLOSING, I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO REJECT THIS ONE, LEAVE THIS AS A, AS ONE STORY NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, ONE STORY ONE LOT, 2,500.

JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL, UH, CARD THAT IS IN OPPOSITION BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

THAT IS FOR RHONDA MCGEE.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, I I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT WHAT'S, UH, BEFORE THE COMMISSION TODAY IS THE SUBDIVISION.

UM, NOT ANY

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REZONING.

SO THE, THE ENTIRE LOT IS CURRENTLY NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE.

UM, WE HAVE DEFERRED ANY REQUEST ON, UH, HAVING THE LOT REZONED.

UM, AND IN FACT, IF THE COMMISSION APPROVES THE SUBDIVISION, WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF PURSUING, UH, A REZONING.

UM, THE SUBDIVISION WILL NOT CHANGE WHAT IS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT IN THE WAY OF SINGLE STORY VERSUS MULTI-STORY AND SO FORTH.

UM, THE SUBDIVISION LOTS THAT ARE PROPOSED MEET ALL MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THE LOT IS JUST NORTH OF 1.2 ACRES TOTAL.

UM, AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, INGRESS EGRESS, UM, WHILE I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PRIMARILY, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY FOR THE D O T D AND FOR A DEVELOPER TO CONSIDER, UM, RIGHT TURNS IN AND OUT ON JEFFERSON.

UH, I, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AS WELL.

UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT HAS CHANGED IN BATON ROUGE AND 2030 YEARS.

UM, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF REMAINING LOTS ON JEFFERSON HIGHWAY THAT HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED AND HAS NOT BEEN PUT IN COMMERCE.

UM, AND AS BATON ROUGE CONTINUES TO GROW, I THINK IT WOULD BE A SHAME NOT TO, UH, TO USE THIS LOT, UH, IN THAT WAY.

SO, UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS, UH, FOR THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONER SCROGGS, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, CAN YOU SPEAK, I HEARD THEM MENTION 2,500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING LIMIT.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? IS, THAT'S ALL, IS THAT ALL THAT'S ALLOWED ON THE CURRENTLY UN SUBDIVIDED LOT IN THE CURRENT ZONING NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE ALLOWS ONE BUILDING PER LOT.

UH, THEY HAVE TO MEET LEGAL STANDARDS PER LOT AND THAT'S WHAT THIS APPLICATION IS DOING IS ASKING TO SUBDIVIDE THE ONE EXISTING LOT INTO, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THREE LOTS.

THOSE THREE LOTS HAVE TO STAND ON THEIR OWN AND MEET THE LEGAL LOT AREA REQUIREMENTS AND FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS.

IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE MEETING THAT THROUGH A FLAG LOT.

WE HAD ANOTHER FLAG LOT ON OUR SUBDIVISION THAT WAS APPROVED ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, SIMILAR TO OTHER AGENDAS WE'VE HAD.

UM, THAT ONE BUILDING WITH A MAXIMUM AREA OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET STILL APPLIES, UH, 2,500 SUITE FEET PER LOT, UH, THAT CAN GO UP OR ASKED TO GO UP TO 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS.

AGAIN, ONE PER LOT.

IN THAT CASE, ON ANY LOT THEY EXCEED 2,500 SQUARE FEET OR WISH TO, THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THIS BODY, UH, THIS SUBDIVISION BEFORE YOU HAS OUR OFFICE IS CERTIFIED, IT, IT MEETS ALL DIMENSIONAL AND U D C REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE SUBDIVISION OFFICE AND DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, I GUESS I CAN ASK RYAN THIS, HE MAY HAVE BEEN A CLARITY, WHAT IS THE LOT SIZES OF THE THREE LOTS THAT ARE BEING SUBDIVIDED HERE? YOU, YOU HAVE 1.2, UM, ONE ACRES OF PROPERTY AND YOU'RE MAKING THREE LOTS OUT OF THAT 1.21 ACRES.

WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DIMENSION OF THE LOT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING? A NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THAT.

THE MINIMUM LOT AREA IS 6,000 SQUARE FEET UNDER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE SMALLEST PROPOSED LOT THEY'RE ASKING TO CREATE IS 11,563 SQUARE FEET.

WELL EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM.

AND THAT'S EACH LOT THAT, UH, ASKED PROPOSED ON THE FLAG LOT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE CONFIGURATION THREE WOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM THEY COULD, THEY COULD CONFIGURE ON THIS PROPERTY.

I'M, I'M TRYING TO LOOK FOR THAT ON THE PROPOSED MAP AND IT DON'T SHOW ANY OF THAT.

SO AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? THAT, THAT OKAY.

I'M, I'M DOWN HERE.

I SEE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS BIG HELP.

'CAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE INGRESS, EGRESS OF THIS PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE IS THAT 2220 FOOT OF DRIVEWAY THAT'S 40 FEET THERE AND ONE POINT, I HATE DOING THE MATH ON THIS, ON THIS COUNCIL, BUT BOY, OKAY.

WHAT IS THE, OKAY, THE LOT ON THE END SEEMS TO BE ONE 18 BY 1 59.

WOULD I BE CORRECT IN READING THAT IN TERMS OF THE DIMENSIONS OF THAT FIRST LOT? THAT'S CORRECT.

WHERE DID I SEE THAT? I SAID WIDTH LOT WAS THE INITIAL, THAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIRED LOT WIDTH.

I THINK I'M RIGHT.

THAT LEAVES YOU AT 40 FEET OF INGRESS, EGRESS OF THAT PROPERTY LOT.

AND I THOUGHT I READ IN THERE THAT THERE WAS ONLY 50 FOOT FRONTAGE.

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THAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE 18 ON THE FIRST LOT.

DON'T, OKAY.

ONE 18 IS THE DISTANCE THAT THE, THE EXISTING FRONTAGE THAT, THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

ONE 18 IS FROM POINT A TO POINT B ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK HERE.

SO THAT'S NOT THE FRONTAGE OFF THE, OFF OF JEFFERSON HIGHWAY.

SO CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THAT PART? WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HERE, I DID READ THAT CORRECTLY IN TERMS OF THAT INITIAL, I THINK COMMISSIONER GR CAN, UH, PROVIDE A LITTLE OKAY.

CLARIFICATION ALL THE ENGINEERS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.

GO AHEAD MS. GR.

IF YOU LOOK, UM, THE LINE IN BETWEEN LOT A ONE AND LOT A TWO IS 79 75 0.96.

UH, I KNOW THAT'S NOT EXACT BECAUSE THE, UH, THE BEARINGS, WELL, THEY MAY BE THE SAME, THEY MAY BE PARALLEL.

UM, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 76 FEET ACROSS THAT, ACROSS THAT FRONT.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 1 18 0 9 MINUS 40.

MINUS 40.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO.

WELL, AGAIN, I HATE TO DO THE NUMBERS HERE AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER LIKE, UH, DESIGNER MR. GROUT, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEMAND, THE DIMENSIONS HERE AND THE SUBDIVIDE ARE THE CHANGE OF THESE LOTS.

I, I WAS RAISED SOME QUESTIONS AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE RESIDENTS AND I'VE BEEN VERY COURTEOUS IN GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR CASE WITH ME REGARDING THE IMPACT ON THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND PUTTING THREE BUILDINGS ON THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ONCE DESIGNED FOR ONE BUILDING, UH, WILL HAVE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT HAS IMPACT BY WAY OF THE FACT THAT YOU CREATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, UH, YOU CREATE ADDITIONAL IMPACT OF SERVICE, WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA PUT THERE.

UH, THEY HAD CONCERNS OF NOT KNOWING WHAT THE BUILDINGS WOULD ACTUALLY BE.

THAT, THAT, THAT IS A CONCERN OF ANYBODY.

WHEN YOU START HAVING PROPERTY SUBDIVIDED IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE A BANK OR WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE A BAR.

YOU KNOW? AND I KNOW, I KNOW WE SAY WE'RE DEALING IN LOW OFFICE, UH, UH, UM, UM, GENERAL OFFICE, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, WHICH KIND OF LIMITS WHAT THEY CAN, WHAT THEY CAN BUILD THERE, BUT IT STILL HAS THAT IMPACT.

AND THEY CURRENTLY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THREE VERSES ONE, AND, AND THAT THAT WAS THE, THE BIGGEST RUB WITH EVERYBODY IS THAT THREE VERSES ONE, HOW THAT CHANGES THINGS.

OF COURSE, THE FLAG LOT.

UH, YOU DID ADDRESS WITH ME, MR. HOLCOMB, THAT THE INGRESS IN EGRESS WITH DIVVY DEALT WITH WITHIN THAT 40 FOOT, 20, 20 SERVITUDE HERE ON THE FRONT SIDE.

WHICH WOULD BEING THE FLAG LOT, MAKING 'EM FLAG LOTS.

I MEAN, AND I, I DID UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I STILL DO.

AND THE MORE I LOOK AT IT, I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THEY WERE NOW, UH, RAISING CONCERNS TO ME ABOUT.

UH, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF ADDRESSING HERE, THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN OF COURSE THE TWO SUBSEQUENT PROPERTIES BEHIND THAT.

UM, HOW WE, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT? BECAUSE THERE WAS UNDER THE CURRENT, UH, ZONING AS WELL AS THE CURRENT USE WAS FOR ONE BUILDING.

AND WE GO INTO THREE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A QUESTION OR JUST A STATEMENT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ADDISON.

WELL, UM, OKAY.

I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN.

ADDITIONAL, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

VICE CHAIRMAN GROP, I'M GONNA MOVE TO APPROVE.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER GROUT TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BOYD? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? YEAH.

ROLL CALL, VOTE.

VOTE CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON.

DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON ITEM 21, CASE CSS.

1323 SD PORTER TRACK.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER ADDISON? NO.

VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? YES.

COMMISSIONER BOYD? YES.

COMMISSIONER ELLEN? YES.

COMMISSIONER SCROGGS? YES.

AND COMMISSIONER STERLING? NO, THAT ITEM PASSES BY FIVE TO TWO VOTE.