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I'D LIKE TO, UH, WELCOME OUR NEW BOARD MEMBER, UH, MR. BRADLEY RICKS.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, MS.
[1. Roll Call]
MONICA, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? ABSOLUTELY.PRESENT? MR. BRANDON RICKS PRESENT.
PRESS ROBINSON PRESENT? MR. JOHN THOMAS PRESENT? MR. BRANDON WILLIAMS? PRESENT, UH, ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD? JOSHUA.
MR. CHAIRMAN? WE HAVE A QUORUM.
UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
[2. Consider Motion to Approve Agenda.]
I CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE SOME CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE AGENDA.
UH, THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF, AND THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT LIKEWISE, IS CALLING FOR A DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF.
IS THAT CORRECT? BOARD MEMBERS? IT'S A DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF.
AND I DO HAVE A WRITTEN NOTICE FROM, UH, THE CHIEF'S OFFICE.
IS THAT IN OUR PACKET? UH, YES IT IS.
AND MR. LEMON BEING THE BOARD REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS THAT AUTHORITY.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE TEST THAT YOU'RE CALLING FOR? DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ADD THE CORRESPONDING, UM, TEST TO THE POLICE.
AND FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND THE CORRESPONDING, UM, TEST FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION WITH THOSE CHANGES? I'M RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THE, I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER CHA ANOTHER TEST THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA.
MS. MONICA, DIDN'T SHE GET SOME RESULTS? WELL, THAT'S NOT THE TEST.
WE DO HAVE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE OFFICE OF STATE EXAMINERS AND I THEY ARE IN POS MR. WILLIAMS'S POSSESSION AT THIS TIME.
SO LET'S MAKE THAT ITEM NUMBER 10.
DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE, UH, POLICE OR FIRE? UH, I DO NOT KNOW.
I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO OPEN THOSE RESULTS.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT APPROVE TEST SCORES AND I WILL OPEN THEM MOMENTARILY AND THAT WILL MAKE THE CHANGE TO NUMBER 11.
UH, SO WITH THOSE CHANGES, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THE APPROVE OF THE REVISED AGENDA.
[3. Consider Motion to Approve Minutes from August 28th and August 31st, 2023, meetings.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 28TH AND AUGUST 31ST MEETING.
UM, I ASSUME YOU HAVE THOSE IN YOUR PACKET.
IF YOU'VE LOOKED OVER THESE, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE ON AUGUST 28TH MINUTES THAT WE APPROVE.
WANNA DO THEM BOTH TOGETHER? YES, SIR.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 28TH AND THE 34TH.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
[4. Consider Motion to Approve or Reject Personnel Action Forms.]
US TO NUMBER FOUR.ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THESE AND PASS THEM AROUND SO WE CAN DO SO, GUYS.
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THANK YOU, MAN.IT IS A, IT'S A WHOLE ORDEAL OVER.
THEY HAVE AN ENVELOPE INSIDE THE ENVELOPE.
SO THESE ARE THE TEST SCORES, AND THEY, LET'S STICK WITH THE, OKAY.
UM, AND MR. TOMS, YOU GONNA PUT YOUR EYES ON THESE AS WELL? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT THE PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS. I MOVED TO APPROVE.
[5. Consider Motion to call for Examinations in the Baton Rouge Police Department:]
FIVE.WE HAVE TO CONSIDER A MOTION TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR DEPUTY POLICE, CHIEF POLICE, CADET POLICE, CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST.
ONE, POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN, ONE.
POLICE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST.
[6. Consider Motion to call for Examinations in the Baton Rouge Fire Department:]
IS A MOTION TO, UH, CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS OF THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR.FIRE CAPTAIN, DISTRICT FIRE CHIEF DEPUTY, FIRE CHIEF.
ALL DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'M SORRY.
[7. Request to rehire former Firefighter Justin Holmes, by Chief Michael Kimble, BRFD.]
NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REHIRE FORMER FIREFIGHTER JUSTIN HOLMES BY CHIEF KIMBALL OF THE BATI DID SEE A LETTER REQUESTING THAT, OR WAS IT OKAY? IT IS, YEAH.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE, WE HAD AN EMAIL AND A LETTER AND, UM, WHERE THIS IS POLICE CHIEF.
WE DO HAVE A LETTER STATING TO THE AFFIRMATIVE.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE REHIRE FIREFIGHTER JUSTIN HOLMES.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND IT.
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ALL OPPOSED.[8. Review and/or Approve Findings of Fact related to Thomas H. Wallace.]
NUMBER EIGHT, REVIEW AND OR APPROVE FINDINGS OF FACT RELATED TO THOMAS WALLACE, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE IN YOUR PACKET.I, I HANDED THOSE OUT EARLIER TODAY.
I'VE SENT THEM TO MR. KERSHAW AND TO MS. UH, DON GIT.
I HADN'T HAD MR. KERSHAW'S OPINION, BUT MS. GIT DID NOT HAVE ANY, UH, OBJECTION TO IT.
UM, SO I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE MR. KERSHAW'S AT.
CAN SOMEBODY GET HIM? I THINK HE'S RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR.
WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE FINDING OF FACT.
AND I, AND I MENTIONED THAT MS. GUILLO DID NOT HAVE A OBJECTION TO THEM, AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE SAME OPPORTUNITY IF YOU HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT 'EM.
THE ONLY, UH, I DON'T THINK THE MIC'S ON.
CAN, CAN PLEASE TURN YOUR MIC ON.
THE, I GUESS MY ONLY OBJECTION TO THIS IS IT APPEARS THAT I'M THE ONE THAT MOVED THE BOARD.
I, I MOVE THAT THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY'S DECISION WAS NOT COMMENSURATE WITH THE STATED OFFENSE, AND THE DISCIPLINE SHOULD BE REDUCED TO A 45 DAY SUSPENSION AND A DEMOTION.
I ACTUALLY, MY MOTION, WHAT I RECALL IS MY MOTION WAS TO UNDO THE DEMOTION ALTOGETHER AND HAVE A SUSPENSION MORE COMMENSURATE WITH THE, UM, WITH THE OFFENSE.
SO I, I DID NOT MOVE TO UPHOLD THE DEMOTION.
I MOVED TO UNDO THE DEMOTION AND THEN LOWER THE SUSPENSION DAYS.
WHERE ARE YOU AT MR. UH, NUMBER TWO ON THE DECISION OF THE BOARD? CONSIDERING THE BOARD'S FINDING ON CAUSE MR. THOMAS MOVED THAT THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY'S DECISION WAS NOT COMMENSURATE WITH THE STATED DEFENSE.
THAT'S MR. THOMAS, NOT MR. WALL.
UM, I WAS READING IT AS IF I'M THE ONE THAT MOVED AND IT SAYS, MR. THOMAS, NEVERMIND.
AND THEN I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, GO BACK AND, UM, THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UH, FINES OF HACK.
ALRIGHT, SO ALSO IN YOUR PACKET, WE HAVE A YES, SIR.
[9. Consider Notice of Appeal by Crystal Duckworth - Schedule Appeal Hearing]
ITEM NUMBER NINE, UH, IN YOUR PACKET, WE HAVE A CONSIDERATE NOTICE OF APPEAL BY CRYSTAL DUCKWORTH TO SCHEDULE A APPEAL HEARING.IS THERE ANYBODY TO TALK ON? OKAY.
GOOD MORNING, MR. YOU, UH, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE APPEAL OF MS. DUCKWORTH WAS TIMELY FILED, IT MET ALL THE INITIAL CRITERIA.
SO NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST SCHEDULING,
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SCHEDULING THE APPEAL.UH, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY PREFERENCES ON WHEN THE APPEAL IS HEARD? CAN, AND THEN WE CAN TALK TO THE LAWYERS ABOUT THEIR SCHEDULING.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE NEXT? UH, HOW FAR OUT ARE WE ON THE SCHEDULE? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY APPEAL SET FOR OCTOBER.
BUT I THINK MR. IVY'S GONNA BE OUT AT THE END OF OCTOBER, CORRECT? UH, YES.
UM, YOUR JANUARY DATE, IF IT'S THE FOURTH JAN, UH, FOURTH MONDAY IN JANUARY THE 22ND, IS THAT OPEN? I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY OPEN.
I THINK WE USUALLY FOREGO THE DECEMBER MEETING.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY BLANK SPACE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, UH, WOULD BE OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.
BUT IF YOU GUYS ARE AMICABLE TO PUSHING IT TO JANUARY, IF YOUR SCHEDULES DO NOT ALIGN, WE ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO IT'S TENTATIVELY JANUARY 22ND, I THINK.
I MEAN, WE'RE GOOD WITH THE JANUARY 22ND IF YOU GUYS, ALL RIGHT.
SO, UM, WE WILL PUT IT ON THE BOOKS FOR JANUARY 22ND.
YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION? NO, NO MOTION.
SO, UH, THE OTHER AGENDA CHANGE ITEM WOULD
[Additional Item]
BE ITEM NUMBER 10 TO APPROVE THE TEST SCORES, WHICH I NOW HAVE IN MY POSSESSION.UH, THESE APPEAR TO BE, UM, FIRE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO MR. THOMAS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND LOOKING OVER THIS, GIVE HIM A SECOND.
YOU WANT ME TO, THE NAMES THOSE FOUR? YES, MA'AM.
THIS, THOSE, I THINK YOU HAVE THOSE.
THAT'S THE, DID YOU WANT ME TO READ 'EM OFF? YEAH, YEAH.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S MY UNDERLINE THEM.
SHE JUST WANTS YOU TO IDENTIFY THE SCORES THAT WE JUST APPROVED.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE NAME, JUSTIN.
SO WE HAVE IN, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE, UH, SCORES FOR THE POLICE SERGEANT, FIRE INVESTIGATOR, AND TRAINING OFFICER EXAMINATIONS.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TEST SCORES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR POSSESSION.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS GO OFFICER.
[10. Hear and Decide Appeal(s) of Sgt. Kenneth Camallo.]
TO ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH IS CONSIDERED A MOTION TO CONTINUE FILED BY, UH, MR. KENNETH KALO.UM, LET'S HAVE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
LOOKS LIKE, UH, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, BOTH PARTIES, I'M SORRY, WAITING FOR MR. THOMAS, UH, THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE COME TO AGREEMENT AND WE WILL NOT NEED TO HEAR THE APPEAL.
COULD DO YOU MIND SPEAKING? YES, SIR.
AND WE CAN VERBALIZE THE, UM, TERMS, UM, ON THE RECORD SHOULD Y'ALL DESIRE?
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YES, PLEASE.SO, UM, WE'VE AGREED TO MR. CAMILLO RECEIVING A SUSPENSION OF 40 DAYS, AND THAT'S GONNA COVER ALL THREE CASES THAT WE HAD FOR HIM, WHICH IS IA FILES 0 0 1 DASH 21 0 12 DASH 21, AND ZERO 13 DASH 21.
UM, THE DEMOTION FROM SERGEANT TO CORPORAL WILL BE RESCINDED.
SO HE WILL MAINTAIN HIS CORPORAL RANK.
HE'S GONNA RETIRE AS A COURT, UM, AS A SERGEANT.
HE'S GONNA RETIRE AS A SERGEANT, BUT HE WILL BE REINSTATED AS A SERGEANT.
UM, AS A FUNCTION OF THIS, HE'S GONNA IMMEDIATELY DISMISS TWO APPEALS THAT HE HAS HERE, AS WELL AS THE PETITION FOR JUDICIAL REVIEW THAT'S PENDING OVER THE 19TH J D C RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S GONNA RESOLVE ALL THREE CASES THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, MR. CAMILLO.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, BY RESCINDING THE DEMOTION FROM SERGEANT TO CORPORAL, THE INTENTION IS OBVIOUSLY BY RESCINDING IT NEVER HAPPENED.
THEREFORE, HE MAINTAINED HIS SERGEANT RANK FROM THE DATE OF THE INITIAL DISCIPLINE, WHICH WOULD ENTITLE HIM 20, UM, BACK PAY EMOLUMENTS BENEFITS THAT HE WOULD DESERVE AS A SERGEANT, ALL I'M SURE FROM THAT DAY.
SO FOR CLARITY, MR. RAINS, THAT'S WHAT, UH, B R P D IS GOING TO DO.
THEY'RE GONNA PAY HIM HIS BACK PAY AND MONUMENT, ALL THAT STUFF.
THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE, UH, ONCE THE NOTICE OF RULING WENT INTO EFFECT, HE WAS DEMOTED AS A CORPORAL.
AND SO WE WERE GONNA REINSTATE HIM AS OF, YOU KNOW, AS OF THE END OF IT.
NOW HE'S GONNA GET THAT BACK PAY.
SO THERE'S A FEW MONTHS OR HOWEVER LONG IT WAS BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THE NOTICE RULING WENT INTO EFFECT AT, UNTIL THE TRIAL, OR UNTIL TODAY.
NOT TODAY UNTIL HIS RETIREMENT.
AND MR. CAVALLO, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING IN ITS ENTIRETY? USE YOUR MICROPHONE FOR US.
UH, COULD YOU PLEASE TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON FOR US? UH, IT SHOULD BE A BUTTON FRONT.
SO THE DEMOTION IS GONNA GO AWAY.
SO I WAS MAINTAINED AS A SERGEANT THE ENTIRE TIME FOR THIS INCIDENT.
THERE'S NO PERIOD WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE A CORPORAL FOR OUR RECORDS.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON BOARD WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID? YES, SIR.
AND MY ONLY REQUEST IS YOU FOLLOW IT UP IN WRITING AND SUBMIT IT TO US SO WE COULD HAVE IT FOR OUR RECORD.
UH, WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, WE'LL CONSIDER THIS MATTER DONE.
UM, WHICH LEADS US TO OUR NEXT ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT.
BEFORE, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, MR. CHAIRMAN, DOES THAT MEAN THAT TAKES CARE OF DEMARS MEETING AS WELL? YES.
UH, THAT, THAT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS THREE CASES THAT THEY HAD, TWO IN OUR POSSESSION AND ONE AT THE DISTRICT COURT.
SO THAT WOULD END ANYTHING THAT THEY HAD BEFORE US, WHICH MAKES, MAKES THE MEETING TOMORROW NECESSARY.
SINCE WE'VE ALREADY ANNOUNCED THAT MEETING, WE SHOULD SAY THAT WE WILL NOT.
WE WILL BE CANCELING THE MEETING ON TOMORROW, WHICH WOULD HAVE HELD THE SECOND APPEAL FOR MR. CAMILLO.
UH, AND THAT MOVES US ON TO OUR ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT 12.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND IT.