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AND GENTLEMEN.WELCOME TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED METROPOLITAN COUNCIL ZONING MEETING ON THIS WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 18TH, 2023 AT 4:00 PM ASHLEY, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? WE HAVE A QUORUM.
[1. 23-00838 Case 37-23 2083 Dallas Drive]
GONNA BEGIN WITH CASE THREE SEVEN DASH 2 3 2 0 8 3 DALLAS DRIVE, THREE REZONED PROPERTY FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR LOUNGE, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF DALLAS, DRIVE NORTH OF WACO AVENUE, DISTRICT SIX COMMISSION ACTION.UH, MOTION TO APPROVE FAILS FOUR TO THREE, AND WE REQUIRE EIGHT VOTES IN ORDER FOR THIS ITEM TO BE APPROVED.
UH, THE WAY THE MEETING WILL WORK, WORK, UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM CAN COME AND SPEAK FIRST.
THEN THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE ITEM CAN COME AND SPEAK SECOND.
AND THEN AFTER ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE OPPOSED SPEAK, UH, ONE OF THE PROPONENTS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS MADE BY THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION.
SO AT THIS TIME, IF THERE IS ANYONE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF.
AND STATE FOR THE RECORD, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU GET THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
YOU WANNA SPEAK? COME ON, COME ON TO THE MIC.
SO YOU READY? THREE MINUTES? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, UM, I'M HAPPY YOU, GOD, I KNOW MR. CLIFF.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I IS HERE, HERE, OVER HERE.
UH, THIS IS MY, I THINK THIS IS MY, UH, FIVE TIMES OVER HERE.
I GOT LIKE SIX MONTHS WITH THIS SITUATION.
SO, AND YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I NEED TO, TO DO BECAUSE I SPEAK FIVE TIMES WITH THE SAME THING, AND I'M VERY LIKE, CONFUSING WITH THE MEETINGS ALWAYS, BECAUSE, UH, ALWAYS IT'S DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW? SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE PROCESS.
SO I'M TRYING TO OPEN MY CLUB, UH, IN THE DALLAS DRIVE, THAT'S ALWAYS WAS A CLUB OVER THERE, LIKE FOR 30 YEARS.
SO, UM, WHEN I'M TAKE THAT PLACE, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW LIKE THAT, THAT COVID CLOSED THAT CLUB FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR.
SO WHEN I'M TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, I'M FROZEN.
SO IT'S A CLUB, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK SO I HAVE A PROBLEM TO TAKE THE A, B C LIQUOR LICENSE.
SO I'M UP TO TAKE THE OCCUPANCY TO TAKE THE FIRE MARSHAL, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M START REPAIR THINGS.
SO THE CITY SAY, TELL ME LIKE REPAIR YOUR, SO FINISH WITH THE REPAIR AND TO MAKE THE ALL INSPECTIONS.
SO FIRE MARSHAL, TELL ME, YOU KNOW WHAT? FINISH WITH EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN YOU FINISH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU READY TO OPEN.
SO I'M PUTTING MY OWN MONEY OVER THERE.
I GOT AS FEBRUARY ONE TO, TO, TO, TO THIS TIME.
IT IS LIKE A, LIKE A EIGHT MONTH SOMETHING.
SO, AND I SPENT, I'M SPENT MORE THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THAT CLUB WITH RENT.
AND SO SYSTEM, SCREEN, COUCHES, FURNITURE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I, I'M FROZE, I'M OPING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I, I, I, I, I, I DON'T THINK SO.
I SAY THEY PUT A PROBLEM, BUT WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M, WHEN I GOT THIS PROBLEM, SO I'M GONNA STOP EVERYTHING BECAUSE THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PERMIT TO OPEN THAT CLUB.
SO IT DON'T MATTER IF I HAVE A ENCY FOR MARSHAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT, IT DON'T MATTER IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS ONE.
SO I'M STOP EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NOW I'M LITERALLY, I'M BROKE.
I'M, I, I, WHEN I STARTED THAT BUSINESS, I WAS WITH, UH, FIVE, UH, FOUR BUSINESS, A BARBERSHOP, TWO BARBERSHOP, A RESTAURANT AND A BAKERY.
MY OLD BUSINESS WAS TRYING TO OPEN THIS CLUB, AND, YOU KNOW, EIGHT, NINE MONTHS STOPPED WITH WORKING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M PUT EVERYTHING OVER THERE.
SO I HOPE THIS TIME YOU HELP ME WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I, I DO EVERYTHING.
MR. CLIFF, TELL ME, UH, MR. UH, CLIFF, UH, TELL ME LIKE LETTERS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EXACTLY WHAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO, LIKE AN EXTRA, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AL ALWAYS, THEY REFER ME TO, TO MR. CLIFF.
SO I HOPE THIS TIME I GOT LUCKY FOR, FOR THAT.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, FOR HELP.
NEXT, WE'RE HERE FROM ELI, ANTONIO.
SIERRA, YOU SPEAK NICOLE WALKER AFTERNOON.
I'M NICOLE WALKER, 1 7 7 2 7 EAST PURPLE MARTIN COURT, 7 0 8 1 6.
MY NAME'S NICOLE WALKER AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UPLIFTED.
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LOCATED AT 1979 DRIVE ADJACENT TO WHERE THE REZONING TO INCLUDE COMMERCIAL ALCOHOL HAS BEEN REQUESTED.OUR MISSION IS TO HELP THE DISABLED AND DISADVANTAGED ESTABLISHED SELF-SUFFICIENCY.
UPLIFTED IS THE PARENT COMPANY TO THE WOMAN'S COMMUNITY RE REHABILITATION CENTER, W C R C, WHICH RELOCATION TO OUR BEAUMONT DRIVE ADDRESS WAS APPROVED IN 2022 BY THIS COUNCIL.
W C R C PROVIDES A HOME-LIKE ENVIRONMENT TO 16 LOUISIANA WOMEN WITH CHRONIC MENTAL ILLNESS, WHO COULD ALSO HAVE A CO-OCCURRING ADDICTIVE DISORDER, AND MANY OF WHOM ARE UNDER A CONDITIONAL RELEASE WITH THE COURT SYSTEM.
OUR CLIENTS RESIDE AT UPLIFTED W C R C PROGRAM FOR ONE TO THREE YEARS ON AVERAGE.
THEY ACTUALLY LIVE ON BEAUMONT DRIVE.
I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL APPROVED THIS RELOCATION BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL BELIEVED IN THE REVITALIZATION OF THIS AREA WITH THE POSITIVE ACTIONS OF SO MANY IN OUR LITTLE CORNER OF BATON ROUGE, POSITIVE CHANGE IS EVIDENT.
WE HAVE CHURCHES, DAYCARES, MEETINGS FOR ADDICTIVE RECOVERY AND FAMILY ORIENTED ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS.
THERE'S A GYM SERVICES FOR THE ELDERLY AND A FELLOW RESPECTED NON-PROFIT, THE ARC AND OTHER VITAL BUSINESSES AND SOCIAL SERVICES THAT SUPPORT BETTERING OUR COMMUNITY.
I HAD BEEN WORKING ON BEAUMONT DRIVE FOR OVER 21 YEARS, AND I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE NIGHTCLUB LOCATED AT 2083 DALLAS DRIVE.
I REMEMBER THE POLICE USING OUR ROOF AS SURVEILLANCE FOR THE NIGHTCLUB.
I REMEMBER THE DRAG RACES, THE NOISE, THE GATHERINGS OF INDIVIDUALS IN OUR PARKING LOT WITH ALCOHOL BOTTLES, DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, AND CONDOMS LEFT FOR US IN THE MORNINGS, OUR NEIGHBOR HAD BECOME A VERY UNSAFE PLACE TO BE, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.
NOW I HAVE OVER 16 SOULS UNDER THE ORGANIZATION'S, RUTH, EACH NIGHT WITH THE POTENTIAL, WITH THE POTENTIAL DANGERS OF A NIGHTCLUB ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.
I ASK YOU, HOW SAFE SHOULD THEY FEEL? UPLIFTED HAS INVESTED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS TO RENOVATE OUR BEAUMONT ADDRESS.
SO OUR RESIDENTIAL FACILITY WAS READY TO HOST OUR LADIES AT THE BEGINNING OF 2023.
PLEASE DON'T LET THIS INVESTMENT BE UNDERMINED BY INTRODUCING A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS ELEMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
PLEASE DON'T SUBJECT OUR RESIDENTS AND CLI AND CLIENTS WHO ARE STRIVING SO HARD TO ESTABLISH A BETTER WAY FORWARD TO ALL THAT WE KNOW COMES WITH A NIGHTCLUB SERVING ALCOHOL.
ON BEHALF OF MY STAFF, OUR CLIENTS AND RESIDENTS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE YOUR VOTE TO DENY THE REZONING OF DALLAS DRIVE TO COMMERCIAL, ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE, BEVERAGE, AND PROTECT ALL WHO ARE WORKING TIRELESSLY TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY.
WILL YOU GIVE OUR CORNER OF BATON ROUGE A CHANCE TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY AND SECURE A SAFE PLACE FOR OUR LADIES TO LAY THEIR HEAD AT NIGHT? WE ASK THAT YOU SAY NO TO THE REZONING REQUEST.
NEXT, WE'LL HEAR FROM KATIE LEBLANC.
NEXT TIFFANY, ANTHONY, VIRGINIA MCKENZIE.
I AGREE WITH THE LADY THAT JUST SPOKE.
THIS PLACE WAS CLOSED ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF ALL THE TERRIBLE THINGS.
AND NOW DALLAS DRIVE IS VERY NICE.
PEOPLE HAVE COME BACK FOR BUSINESSES, PEOPLE KEEP UP THEIR PLACES, THEIR BUSINESSES, AND IT IS A NICE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO DO BUSINESS WITH.
AND BATON ROUGE NEEDS TO BUILD UP, NOT TEAR DOWN.
AND THIS PLACE WOULD ONLY SCREAM TO TEAR DOWN THIS AREA.
IS ANYONE HERE, ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? UH, D EY, JR.
UM, MY MOTHER OWNS A BUSINESS ON DALLAS DRIVE.
SHE'S BEEN THERE THROUGH THE THICK AND THIN.
SHE WAS THERE WHEN THE BAR ROOM OPERATED.
SHE WAS THERE WITH, ALONG WITH ME CLEANING UP HUMAN FECES AND URINE OFF OF HER PROPERTY.
SHE HELPED ME PICK UP BOTTLES AND CONDOMS AND DRUG PARAPHERNALIA OUT OF THE PARKING LOT.
MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE HEARD FROM ME BY NOW, AND MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE HEARD FROM THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS ALONG DALLAS DRIVE WHO DO NOT WANT THIS.
THEY FEAR FOR THEIR LIVELIHOOD.
THEY FEAR FOR THEIR SAFETY, THEIR EMPLOYEES FEAR FOR THEIR SAFETY.
MANY OF THE BUSINESSES WORK AFTER HOURS, AND IF THIS CLUB REOPENS, THEY'RE AFRAID THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT, JUST OUT OF SAFETY.
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URGE YOU TO USE YOUR VOTE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS.NICOLE WALKER, YOU SPOKE ALREADY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING, UH, IN RESPONSE TO ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS? YOU GOT THREE MINUTES? YEAH, I THINK SO.
UH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I HEAR, I HEAR THAT BEFORE AND ALWAYS THE SAME THING.
AND THEY JUDGE ME JUST FOR THE PAST.
THE BOTTOM ALWAYS IS THE PAST.
LIKE THAT ONE IS YEARS, YEARS, YEARS AGO, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SO.
THAT CLUB, THAT AREA IS NOT RUNNING A CLUB LIKE MORE THAN THREE YEARS AND I DON'T KNOW MORE THAN THAT YEAR.
SO, UH, I'M A NEW GUY, YOU KNOW, UH, I KNOW THEY SPOKEN, THEY HAVE BAD EXPERIENCE AROUND THAT PLACE, BUT WHEN I'M TAKING, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAY, OH, THIS IS BAD AREA.
NO, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M BUSINESSMEN AND I'M TRYING TO DO A BUSINESS TOO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M A YOUNG GUY AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DO MY RIGHT THING, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE POSITION THEY RIGHT, BECAUSE I KNOW THE CLUBS RUNNING LIKE SOMETIMES LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY LIVE AROUND IT OVER THERE.
BUT IT'S ANY HOUSE AROUND, BECAUSE ALL THIS COMMERCIAL ALL IS, IS A LOT OF COMMERCIALS OVER THERE IS CLOSED.
A LOT OF COMMERCIAL OVER THERE.
LIKE EVERY, EVERYBODY CLOSE AT FIVE.
A NIGHTCLUB IS OPEN JUST LIKE A FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, LIKE MOST USUALLY, YOU KNOW? AND, AND I'M RESPECT THE OPPOSITION BECAUSE I'M RESPECT, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I HAVE A CLUB CLUB BEFORE AND I NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM.
BUT I'M, I'M JUST SAY WHY DON'T UNDERSTAND ME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M NOT THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING.
I'M JUST A, I'M JUST RENT THE PLACE.
I'M A NEW GUY, I'M NEW PROMOTER, YOU KNOW, I'M COME WITH NEW THINGS, YOU KNOW? UH, AND NOBODY LET ME SPEAK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M GO AROUND THE BUILDING.
I'M, I'M TAKE 17 LETTERS, I THINK.
SO YOU, YOU, YOU, I, I GO WITH YOU WITH THE OFFICE.
YOU SEND ME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT IS A LOT OF, A LOT OF COMMERCIALS OVER THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, THEY, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY, UH, HAVE BUSINESS IN THE SAME STREET BECAUSE I COUNT THE BUSINESS IN THE SAME STREET IN THE SAME, IT JUST 40 40, I THINK SO.
SO NO WORKING OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, AND BEHIND ME IS NOT HOUSES NEXT MINUTE, NOT HOUSES.
IT'S NOT HOUSES AROUND LIKE A HALF A MILE, A HALF A HALF A MILE ACTING.
SO I THINK THE, THE FIRST, UH, RESIDENTIAL IS VERY FAR.
SO AFTER FIVE, EVERYTHING IS CLOSED.
SO I UNDERSTAND THEM, YOU KNOW.
BUT RIGHT NOW, UNDERSTAND ME, I'M, I'M TRYING TO DO A RIGHT THINGS, YOU KNOW, I'M COME FOR THE CITY TO MAKE BUSINESS IS, IS IS A GOOD THING.
YOU KNOW, I, I, I HAVE LIKE, I'M TELLING YOU, NINE MONTHS AND I'M NOT GIVE UP, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WANNA DO MY BUSINESS.
AND IT, IT, AND ALWAYS IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME, UH, THING.
LIKE THEY COME TO TO THIS, THEY COME TO HERE, UH, AND SPEAK THE SAME THING.
THE TRASH, THE BAD, AND THE NOISE.
SO JUST UNDERSTAND THAT PART, YOU KNOW.
UH, REAL QUICKLY, I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN HURST.
UM, Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED 35 COMMENTS, EMAIL COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMENT FORM 18 IN SUPPORT AND 17 IN OPPOSITION.
SIR, I, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, UM, YOUR BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE P T S D WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER, A LOT YOUNGER, THAT CLUB WAS DEATH TRAP CITY.
YOU SAW FIGHTS, I DID SECURITY THERE AS WELL AS PATRONIZE IT.
AND IN MY MIND, I'M LIKE, WHY WOULD I EVER GO OUT THERE AS AN ADULT? WHY WOULD, WHY DID I PUT MYSELF IN THAT POSITION? YOU'D HAVE BULLETS ON THE GROUND, PEOPLE THAT HAD MASONRY COMPANIES AROUND THERE.
PEOPLE WOULD TAKE THE BRICKS THAT, THAT WERE FOR SALE AND START FIGHTING WITH THE BRICKS IN THE STREET.
SO YOU'D HAVE CARS THAT WOULD SWERVE UP AND DOWN, MAKE NOISE ALL NIGHT LONG, NOT DISTURBING THE NEIGHBORS, BUT CREATING
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A NUISANCE FOR THAT ENVIRONMENT.YOU LITERALLY COULD HAVE PICKED ANY OTHER BUILDING ON THAT STREET, AND YOU'D HAVE PROBABLY GOT IT PASSED.
BUT THAT ONE PARTICULAR BUILDING WILL CAUSE P T S D TO ARISE.
AND EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN ON, ON, ON DALLAS DRIVE, UH, IF I WAS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, I'D BE TRANSPARENT.
'CAUSE I WAS A PART OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND, UM, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, I THINK IT'S THE PARTICULAR BUILDING.
I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY THE AREA, BUT THAT BUILDING HAS SO MUCH NEGATIVE HISTORY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THOSE NUMBERS OF YEAR, NUMBER OF YEARS ARE REMINDED OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SHOT OUT THERE.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAD TO BE PICKED UP IN AMBULANCE, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE STABBED, UH, ALL THE FIGHTS THAT WERE IN THE CLUB THAT ESCALATED TO OUTSIDE THE CLUB.
YOU SOME, SOME NIGHTS YOU'D HAVE 200 CARS JUST LINED UP OUTSIDE LIKE A TAILGATE.
THE PEOPLE DID NOT GO IN THE CLUB.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S AGAINST YOU.
I JUST THINK THAT YOU PICKED THE WRONG SPOT IN THE WRONG PLACE OF TOWN, MAN.
UH, AND, AND I JUST, I WON'T VOTE FOR IT TONIGHT.
BUT, UM, I, I'M WITH THE NEIGHBORS WITH THE P T S D, SO THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS, TURN YOUR MIC ON, PLEASE.
YEAH, I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HEARD YOU IN YOUR COMMENTS SAY, YOU KNOW, ALL YOU HEAR ABOUT IS THE PAST AND THE PAST AND THE PAST.
AND WHAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCES IS WHAT YOU ARE, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE PAST, THE VERY IDEA THAT THAT CAN OCCUR AGAIN IS THE FEAR.
BASED ON THE PAST EXPERIENCES, IF YOU HAD PUT A CHURCH THERE,
IF YOU HAD PUT A DAYCARE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT.
BUT BECAUSE IT IS THE EXACT MODEL YOU COULD HAVE THE DIFFERENT, I KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT CLIENTELE.
I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO REACH YOUR HISPANIC, UM, POPULATION.
BUT IT'S THE EXACT MODEL THAT FOR YEARS, UM, WENT, WENT, WENT LEFT.
NOW WHEN I'M MUCH OLDER, UM, THAN MY COLLEAGUE.
BUT WHEN WE, WHEN WE USED TO GO THERE IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES, LATER, IT WAS SMACK WATER JACK.
THEY REMEMBER IT BEING, WHAT'S THE, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? THE ICE HOUSE.
AND IT WASN'T A DREAM, IT WAS A NIGHTMARE ICE HOUSE FOR ME.
SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU DEALING WITH.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A GOOD TIME TO SMACK WATER, JACK.
IF YOU WANNA NAME IT SMACK WATER, YOU MIGHT GET MY VOTE.
BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DEAL IS.
IT'S A REMEMBRANCE OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE.
AND MY MY, IF I RECALL, WHEN YOU CAME BACK AND WHY YOU'RE SO PASSIONATE IS THAT YOU ALREADY PUT THE MONEY IN IT.
YOU ALREADY PUT IT WHAT, LIKE 40,000 IN IT? UHHUH.
WHY YOU WOULDN'T PUT 60 MORE THOUSAND.
YOU'RE NOT COME TO THIS MEETING LIKE IN SIX MONTHS.
I KNOW YOU PUT FOUR 60 MORE THOUSAND IN IT AND WE TOLD YOU, BUT SO THAT, THAT'S THE, THE HEARTBREAK PART OF IT.
UM, THAT YOU SPENT THE MONEY BEFORE MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAD OUR VOTE.
YOU KNOW HOW WORK IN THE CITY, SO BECAUSE THEY SEND ME TO SPEED MONEY FIRST.
WHAT? OKAY, YOU MAY NOT THINK SO, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU STANDING THERE WITH A A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INVESTMENT AND NO APPROVAL.
IF THAT'S NOT A A, IF THAT'S, IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU MADE A BAD BUSINESS DECISION REGARDING THE FINANCES, I CAN'T MAKE IT PLAINER.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, LET'S JUST SAY WE WOULD APPROVE THIS.
THAT'S NOT YOUR LAST BATTLE, BRO.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE A, B, C BOARD AND THREE TIMES THIS NUMBER OF PEOPLE GONNA SHOW UP.
AND THEN YOU GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BUILDING AND YOU WANNA SELL ALCOHOL AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT.
I PROBABLY PROBABLY SHOW UP EVEN AT THAT MEETING.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE FACING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHERE YOU COULD GO WITH IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO TRY TO MAKE IT A DINNER, A YOU KNOW, A EVENING DINNER THING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, SO THAT YOU WON'T LOSE YOUR MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO MAKE IT A SPORTS, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW YOUR HOURS, BUT SO THAT YOU WON'T LOSE YOUR, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO START WITH SOMETHING EARLIER AND LITTLE BY LITTLE WIN THESE PEOPLE OVER WITH, WITH SHOWING WHAT YOU CAN DO, HOW YOU WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, HOW YOU WILL BE, UM, A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND EVENTUALLY TRANSITION OR HAVE, LIKE I JUST READ, UM, XENOS OR WHATEVER, TWO, TWO BUSINESSES IN ONE WHERE SHE HAS, SHE HAS A DINNER THEATER AT NIGHT, BUT SHE HAS LIKE A OPEN CAFE DURING THE DAY.
SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD SUGGEST, JUST
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'CAUSE I FEEL BAD THAT YOU SPENT THE MONEY, BUT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT.ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TOLD YOU TOLD, YOU TOLD YOU, YOU MET WITH THE, UM, THE COUNCILMAN.
YOU DIDN'T TALK TO HIM BEFORE.
WE'VE ALL CALLED AND WHO? COUNCILMAN DUN.
WHEN, WHEN YOU CAME TO THE, UH, PLANNING THE ZONING MEETING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WAS IT? NO, NO.
THAT'S WHY
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT GETTING MY VOTE.
SOMEBODY, YOU JUST, ME JUST BECAUSE IT'S A, IT IS THE, IT IS THE SPOT.
IT'S NOT A, IT IS NOT A LEGAL, I THINK SO JUST THE SPOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS MY, MY FAULT, BUT I'M TRUST, YOU KNOW, SO I, I'M, I DO EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M TAKE IT.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE HISTORY, SO HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN, I'M GONNA, UH, ASK YOU TO GO LAST COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON.
SO, SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE, THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD CONTROVERSIAL ONES LIKE THIS, AND I, I WILL LEND SOME CREDENCE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
I, I SHARE A LOT OF THOSE SAME CONCERNS.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE WORKED WITH FOLKS IN THE PAST TO LOOK AT RESTAURANT ZONING, SO C B ONE AS OPPOSED TO, TO C B TWO.
UM, IT'S ESPECIALLY U UNIQUE WHENEVER YOU'VE MADE SUCH A LARGE INVESTMENT.
IT'S NEVER, I'M NOT, I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY EVER ANYONE'S INTENTION, RIGHT? TO, TO MESS UP SOMEONE'S FINANCES OR, OR HAVE YOU SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY UNNECESSARILY.
UM, IS A RESTAURANT ZONING SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN OR POSSIBLY EVEN TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, MAYBE ANOTHER DEFERRAL, UH, TO WEIGH YOUR OPTIONS AS FAR AS A RESTAURANT ZONING? AND JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE TECHNICAL DIFFERENCE, THE TECHNICAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN C ONE AND C TWO IS THAT WITH C A B ONE, 50% OF YOUR RECEIPTS WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, FOOD.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D, THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN? YEAH, I CAN, I CAN DO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT SO I NEED, I NEED WAY MORE TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I CAN APPLY BECAUSE ANYWAYS, I NEED MY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS FOR THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN RESTAURANT USE AS OPPOSED TO A BAR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILE A NEW APPLICATION HERE.
SO YOU WON'T HAVE NEW APPLICATION FEES FOR REZONING AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO REAPPLY.
THERE COULD BE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR CA B ONE.
NOW, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WOULD BE TO ASK FOR A DEFERRAL TONIGHT.
UM, AND THEN GO AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT YOUR BUSINESS MODEL AND, AND MAKE SURE RESTAURANT ZONING FITS FOR YOU, UM, AND MEET WITH, MEET WITH PLANNING AND MEET WITH COUNCILMAN DUNN.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AS TO SOMETHING THAT MIGHT, MIGHT WORK FOR YOU AND THE NEIGHBORS.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I CONCUR WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN HUDSON HERE.
AND, UM, BUT I KNOW DEEP DOWN YOU WANT A BALLROOM AND YOU'VE SPENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, MY GOD.
BUT I'M THINKING OF THE UPDATING OF THE 1 MILLION THAT THEY'VE DONE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, YEAH, FOR THE PEOPLE.
AND ALSO WHEN I LOOK AT DALLAS DRIVE, IT HAS QUIETENED DOWN AND DALLAS DRIVE NOW IS, UH, MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT IT USED TO BE.
BUT I DARE NOT WANT TO SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF AROUND YOU THAT WHAT WAS, BUT THERE IS SOME GOOD THAT HAS HAPPENED IN SOME PLACES.
BUT I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN, UM, HUDSON HERE, THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO CONSIDER.
BUT DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME IF YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT ARREST.
UH, C A B ONE, COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN, COUNCIL MEMBER MO.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I, LOOK, I HAD SOME OPPOSITION TO THIS, UH, UP UNTIL A LITTLE WHILE AGO, AND I, I, I'LL JUST TELL EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW, I REC, I, I CONCUR WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS FAR AS REQUESTING DEFERRAL, STEP BACK, LOOK AT THE BUSINESS MODEL.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I, I'LL JUST TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I WAS PREPARED TO PASS THIS.
I COMMEND YOU IN WANTING TO WORK WITH WORK IN THE AREA AND ALL THAT.
I'VE SEEN THE AREA, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING.
UM, I, I'VE SEEN THIS STUFF AROUND IT.
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UH, DID, DID I EVEN THINK THAT, MA'AM, THE LADY WITH UPLIFT, I WOULD'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT THERE'D HAVE BEEN ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL IN A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, PEOPLE LIVING THERE IN, IN A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT.UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY Y'ALL PICKED THAT SPOT, BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, I'VE WORKED IN THAT AREA AS A KID.
I'VE WORKED AT A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE COME AND GONE OUT OF THERE.
IT'S A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, UH, THAT THAT'LL HAVE A RESTAURANT, MAYBE A COFFEE SHOP FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND STUFF AROUND THERE.
UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR YOU, LIKE YOU SAID, STEP BACK, REANALYZE, UH, WE HAD, WE'VE HAD ISSUES LIKE THIS BEFORE WHERE THE AREA MAY BE MORE CONDUCIVE OF, UH, SERVING, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT AND FOOD.
FIND OUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT.
NOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO INTO TAKING A FULL-BLOWN RESTAURANT LIKE, UM, LIKE LAS PALM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT CAN BE A MIXED USE OR, OR SOMETHING.
SO I, I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
UM, I I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT, UM, I GET IT WHEN YOU START A BUSINESS, TEXAS CLUB STARTED OUT AT THAT LOCATION, NOT OUT OF THAT LOCATION, BUT IT STARTED OVER THERE OFF OF TOM DRIVE, RIGHT BY DALLAS DRIVE.
AND EVERYBODY COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S GROWN.
UM, I, UH, A PLACE THAT I GO TO EVEN TODAY ON HIGHLAND ROAD, UM, WAS TALKED ABOUT AND TRASHED AND JUST, UH, THE WORST PLACE EVER.
NOW THEY GOT PEOPLE IN, THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING THAT SOLD, DON'T WANT 'EM TO MOVE.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE AROUND THE AREA WANT THAT TYPE OF, OF CLUB THERE OR SOMETHING.
SO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAM YET.
UM, STEP BACK, GET WITH EVERYBODY AND HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO DEFER THIS FOR RIGHT NOW, TO LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN HELP YOUR DREAM COME TRUE.
UH, THERE IS A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS TO, TO DENY.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THE DENIAL? IS THERE A SECOND? COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS HAS WITHDRAWN A MOTION TO DENY.
I WANTED TO SPEAK FOR MY COUNCIL MEMBER ROCKER.
HI, CAN, UM, POLL AND MS. NINA, COME FORWARD PLEASE.
SO AS HE'S COMING FORWARD, I JUST THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT'S HEAVY INDUSTRIAL M TWO.
I JUST HAD SOMEONE IN MY DISTRICT COME, UM, TO TALK ABOUT C B TWO AND WHAT POSSIBLE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE UNDER M TWO ZONING.
WOULD YOU MIND GIVING US A BRIEF RUNDOWN ON WHAT EXACTLY CAN BE DONE IN THIS AREA UNDER M TWO ZONING? JUST CAN I UP? THANK YOU BUDDY.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, THIS LOCATION HAD ACTUALLY BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE BEFORE, UM, IT HAD, IT'S CONSIDERING A NON-CONFORMING USE BECAUSE IT HAD ALCOHOL IN THERE, UH, FOR A WHILE, AS IS IS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
HE COULD PUT A RESTAURANT WITHOUT ALCOHOL IN THAT M ONE.
IT CANNOT BE WITH ALCOHOL SPECIFICALLY.
SO HE COULD PUT A RESTAURANT THERE, BUT HE COULDN'T HAVE ALCOHOL.
NOW HE COULD REZONE IT TO C B ONE, BUT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, HE COULD NOT HAVE A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL IN THERE.
UNDER M DO A MICROBREWERY? YEAH, DISTILLERY.
HE COULD DO A MICROBREWERY OR A DISTILLERY THERE IF HE WANTED TO.
WITH NO APPROVAL AND NO REZONING.
SO CURRENTLY HE COULD GO AND PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY LIKE OXBOW OR VERY SIMILAR TO 10 ROOF.
HE CAN GO, UM, AND HE CAN CREATE HIS OWN ALCOHOL AND CAN, HE CAN SERVE AS MUCH ALCOHOL AS HE WANTS OUT OF THAT FACILITY AS LONG AS IT HAS HIS LABEL ON IT.
SO HE, IT'D HAVE TO BE ON PREMISES DISTILLED OR BREWED ON PREMISES.
THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A TAP ROOM ON PREMISES THAT WOULD HAVE TO GET APPROVED BY A, B, C.
SO THERE'S STILL THE SECOND HURDLE OF A, B, C, BUT HE COULD DO A MICROBREWERY OR MICRO DISTILLERY ON SITE.
SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS A, B C IS THERE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S C TWO, A RESTAURANT OR YES MA'AM.
SO THOSE ARE STILL STEPS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN.
BUT IF HE'S INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD, AND I THINK THE OTHER THINGS WITH, UM, THIS PARTICULAR ZONING GETS SORT OF CRAZY, LIKE HE COULD DO A STORAGE FACILITY.
UM, IS THIS THE ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM TO CRUSH CARS AND ALLOW CARS IN THAT AREA? OR IS THAT HEAVY COMMERCIAL TOO? SO HE ACTUALLY IS M TWO.
UM, I'VE GOT THE LIST OF JUNKYARD, SALVAGE YARD DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY CRUSHING OF CARS, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT YEAH, A JUNKYARD OR SALVAGE YARD IS, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO THERE.
SO I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE FIGHTING HERE.
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SO, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR HIM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS THE NEXT PERSON THAT WANTS TO COME AND BUILD OR DEVELOP WILL COME IN AND UNDER M TWO IT COULD BE A VARIETY OR HOST OF THINGS.I MEAN, HE COULD DO A TRADE SCHOOL, SMALL EQUIPMENT REPAIR, A INDOOR SHOOTING RANGE, RETAIL SALES, SELF STORAGE, PARKING FACILITY, MICROBREWERY, UM, MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR, HEAVY EQUIPMENT SALES.
HE COULD DO A LAB, HE COULD DO A LAWN AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY, DRY CLEANER, CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS CONTRACTOR, YARD COMMERCIAL RECREATION, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR CAR WASH, CABINET MAKING MILLWORK, BUILDING MATERIAL SALES, AN ART STUDIO, AN ART GALLERY.
THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE MAJOR ONES HE COULD DO.
UH, FREIGHT TERMINAL, OUTDOOR STORAGE, TRUCK TERMINAL, WAREHOUSE, WHOLESALE, I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS SOME, A LACK OF INFORMATION AS TO WHAT COULD BE DONE.
AND I WANTED IT CLEAR FROM THE EXPERTS, THANK YOU EXPERTS WHAT, UM, ALL THE AVAILABLE OPTIONS ARE FOR NOT ONLY THIS PERSON, BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO COMES IN BEHIND HIM TO BE ABLE TO DO.
UH, QUICK QUESTION ON, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENT I ASKED THIS AS FAR AS REQUIREMENTS THAT WE COULD PUT ON THEM, AND WE'VE PROBABLY HAD THIS DISCUSSION 14 OR 15 TIMES FOR DIFFERENT ONES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I THINK WE DID IT WITH, UM, THE LAST RECEPTION HALL FACILITY THAT WE DID AND, AND SECURITY AND, AND, AND CAMERAS AND THINGS.
IS THERE, UM, PARKING OR, AND, AND OPENING AND CLOSING, COULD YOU GIMME A KIND OF A, A, A BROAD OR A, A DESCRIPTION OF IS ANY KIND OF, UM, EXCEPTIONS THAT WE COULD PUT ON IT OR ADD INTO THE APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OR ANYTHING? NO, YOU'RE VERY LIMITED AS TO WHAT YOU CAN REQUIRE.
YOU CAN'T PUT STIPULATIONS IN IT.
IF IT WERE TO BE A PUD, A SPUD ICE SPUD, YOU COULD PUT THOSE, UH, RESTRICTIONS IN.
BUT ONCE IT'S REZONED, IT'S REZONED.
NOW THERE ARE CERTAIN PARAMETERS.
SO IF YOU WERE TO MAKE IT A C A B TWO AT CLOSING TIME AT TWO O'CLOCK, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE ONLY PARAMETER THAT YOU COULD PUT ONTO IT, IF IT WAS AT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO DO A C B TWO, IT COMPLY, IT'D HAVE TO COM BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE A, B, C LAWS.
BUT YOU CAN'T STIPULATE AND SAY, HEY, YOU GOTTA CLOSE AT 11 ON FRIDAYS AND 12 ON SATURDAYS, OR REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SECURITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OF COURSE YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO AUTO ALREADY NO, THAT'S, THAT WOULD HAVE TO, HE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET A SPUD OR AN ICE BUD OR A PUD, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
AND, AND IN, IN YOUR OPINION, IF ONE FOR ONE OF THOSE, WOULD THAT JUST OPEN UP A WHOLE NOTHER CAN OF WORMS? YES, IT WOULD OPEN UP ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS THAT WOULDN'T.
UM, AND, AND LEMME JUST SAY THIS WITH THE, THE RESTAURANT IDEA THAT IS THROWN OUT, I DON'T THINK THAT BUILDING CURRENTLY HAS A KITCHEN IN IT, SO HE WOULD HAVE TO PUT SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO IT IF IT WERE TO BE A C A B.
IF YOU WERE TO REZONE AT C A B ONE, HE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND THEN HIS ALCOHOL WOULD HAVE TO HAVE 51% FOOD AND 49% ALCOHOL.
UM, WOULD I MEAN A FULL-BLOWN, WOULD IT C A B, THE RESTAURANT WOULD THAT, IF WE'RE TALKING FULL-BLOWN KITCHEN, WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THAT REZONING OR, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE WE'VE DONE ONE OFF OF, UM, OVER BY THE STATION, UH, HELPED A FRIEND OF MINE OPEN ONE AND I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL-BLOWN FRYS AND THE, AND THE STOVES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEY HAD THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEEDED TO SERVE FOOD.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT FULL-BLOWN RESTAURANT WITH THE GRILL AND EVERYTHING AND THE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE EXTINGUISHERS, UM, LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH STANDARDS, WHATEVER THOSE STANDARDS ARE.
SO DEPENDING ON WHAT HE'S SERVING, BUT OBVIOUSLY HE'S GOTTA MEET THAT THRESHOLD.
SO, UM, IT DOESN'T GET INTO THE PARTICULARS OF HE'S GOTTA HAVE A FRYER OR GREASE TRAP.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S GONNA GO TO FAULT TO, UM, L D H A OR LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
BUT AS FAR AS MEETING HIS REQUIREMENTS, HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A KITCHEN AND THE FOOD SALES WOULD HAVE TO BE 50%.
SIR, COULD YOU STEP UP FOR A SECOND, YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO ALL THIS AND THEN WHAT'S GOING ON? LOOK, I'M NOT WANTING FOR,
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I I I'M PAYING FOR THE SINS OF THE PAST.UH, I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THAT IS, IS INCLUDED HERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND, UH, I KNOW THE AREA AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE SAYING THAT AND I HATE THAT THAT FALLS ON TO YOU.
BUT IN, IN HEARING WHAT'S WHAT YOU'VE HEARD REAL BRIEFLY, WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU COULD DO, UH, AND ADHERE TO SAFETY-WISE AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE? AND WE'RE TALKING OUTSIDE THE STRUCTURE AND SO ON.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND WHAT YOU PLAN ON DOING? ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT YOU COULD TELL US? YEAH, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
THAT'S NOT MY FIRST TIME WITH A CLUB.
THAT'S MY SO TELL US BRIEFLY WHAT YOU THINK.
THAT'S MY, WHAT YOU THINK A GOOD NIGHT OF, OF SAFETY WOULD BE.
IT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
SO, UH, I'M, I'M SHOW MR. CL, I'M MR. CLIFF, MY LAST CLUB, I'LL SHOW YOU.
AND, UH, I ALMOST TWO YEARS AND I NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM.
I DON'T DON'T, I DON'T WANNA KNOW YOUR RECORD.
WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS GIMME A DESCRIPTION OF YOUR IDEA OF PROVIDING SAFETY AND, AND, AND, AND PROTECTION FOR THESE PEOPLE AND KEEPING PEOPLE OFF THEIR PROPERTY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I, I'M PUT THE EXAMPLE FOR THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE THE SAME THING.
IT IS THE SAME SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, INSIDE IS INSIDE, INSIDE.
I, I GOT, YOU KNOW, I GOT THE INSIDE MY SECURITY, MY, BECAUSE I WORK WITH COMPANIES, YOU NEED, IF YOU ARE A CLUB, YOU NEED WORK WITH COMPANY.
IF THE GUY, IF THE GUY OVER THERE SAY HE WAS ALL SECURITY BEFORE IN THE PAST.
SO WE NEED, WE NEED WORK WITH COMPANY, WITH CERTIFICATE AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR INSIDE FOR US.
I ALWAYS, I WORK WITH COPS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS.
I WORK WITH COPS BECAUSE I KNOW THIS BUSINESS.
AND HOW DANGEROUS, LIKE, UH, LIKE I KNOW THE, THE BIT.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M LATINO, IT'S NOT IF I WAS BLACK, IT'S NOT BECAUSE I WAS WHITE.
IT IS NO MATTER IF EVEN WAS TWIN PICK SOMEBODY COME OUTSIDE AND TAKE A GUN AND SHOOT EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW.
SO IT'S NOT A PLACE, IT'S THE PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, I COME WITH DIFFERENT CREW.
I GOT, I GOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN DO MY RECORD RIGHT HERE.
MY INSTAGRAM, MY FACEBOOK, MY FAN PAGE BECAUSE I'M DJ TOO.
MY NAME OF DJ, DJ FRESH, HE KNOW ME BECAUSE EVERYBODY SEND ME WITH HIM.
NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I WORK WITH COPS.
I KNOW I GOT PHONE NUMBER WITH COPS.
I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU TO CALL THEM IF THEY KNOW KEVIN
I KNOW THE TIME FOR THE ALL LIKE A COPS ON STREET.
AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, THIS IS, THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN A, UH, A CLUB FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UH, DURING MY TIME WHEN I FREQUENT THE PLACE, IT WAS CLUB DREAMS. UH, IT WAS THE ICE HOUSE.
AND MY FATHER-IN-LAW TELL ME STORIES ABOUT WHEN THERE WAS SMACK WATER JACK ALL THE TIME.
UM, THERE WAS SOME GUNSHOTS, SOME FIGHTING AS DOLL DESCRIBED.
THERE WERE SOME GOOD TIMES THERE AS WELL.
BUT I UNDERSTAND OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS CONCERNED.
UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH AFTER THE CLUB AND, YOU KNOW, CLEANING UP AND, YOU KNOW, SOME CARS BREAKING IN, BUSINESS BEING BROKEN IN.
UM, I DO THINK KEVIN COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB COMMUNICATING, UH, THAT THIS IS NOT CLUB DREAMS. AGAIN, IT'S A NEW OWNER, A NEW DEMOGRAPHIC, A NEW MODEL.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I ENCOURAGED HIM TO TALK TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND COMMUNICATE TO THEM WHAT HE COMMUNICATED TO ME.
BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF CALLS, EMAILS, WE HEARD YOUR CONCERNS, WE HEARD YOUR VOICE.
AND THE THINGS I HEARD FROM MOST OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND STAKEHOLDERS WAS NOT WHAT HE WAS COMMUNICATING TO ME DIRECTLY.
SO I DO THINK, AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN HUDSON FOR OFFERING A A, UM, ANOTHER OPTION.
I DO THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A DEFERRAL AND, AND CONSIDER YOUR OPTIONS, YOUR BUSINESS MODEL.
I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THE RESTAURANT AND MAKE SURE I WANNA SEE A WIN-WIN HERE.
SO I THINK IF, IF THERE'S COMMUNICATION, THERE'S A CONVERSATION, THERE CAN BE A WIN-WIN.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN VERY LITTLE COMMUNICATION AND CONVERSATION.
AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE PROPER FORM FOR YOU TO GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT THERE, JUST WITH THE COMMUNICATION BARRIERS AND, AND, UH, LANGUAGE BARRIERS THAT, THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO TAKE A DEFERRAL AND LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER OPTIONS.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE SINS OF THE PAST OF THE PREVIOUS CLUB, UM, THE PREVIOUS CLUB OWNER OWNS THE ESTABLISHMENT, THE BUSINESS.
AND NOT ONLY ARE WE PUNISHING YOU, BUT WE'RE PUNISHING THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER
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FROM NOT BEING, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAXIMIZE THEIR INVESTMENT AT THE PROPERTY.SO WHETHER THAT'S A RESTAURANT OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, LET'S DEFER IT AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE STAKEHOLDERS HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE PATH FORWARD.
SO I'M SECONDING, UM, THE WIFE'S MOTION.
UM, THE NEXT MEETING, WHENEVER THAT IS NOVEMBER, UH, A MOTION IS TO DEFER UNTIL THE NOVEMBER MEETING MADE BY COUNCILMAN HUDSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DUNN.
THE ITEM HAS BEEN DEFERRED UNTIL THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
[Items 2 & 3]
WE NOW MOVE ON TO ITEMS TWO AND THREE.WE'RE GONNA TAKE TOGETHER PA ONE ONE DASH 2 3 1 6 8 1 6 4 8, 1 OLD CENIC HIGHWAY AND ITEM THREE PUD TWO DASH TWO THREE OH CENIC HIGHWAY.
UH, ITEM TWO TO AMENDED COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM AGRICULTURE TO RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF OLD CENIC HIGHWAY NORTH OF MERRILLVILLE AVENUE IN DISTRICT ONE, UH, COMMISSION ACTION TO APPROVE SIX ZERO AND ITEM THREE TO REZO PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, BUT LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SCENIC OLD SENIOR HIGHWAY NORTH OF MARYVALE AVENUE.
ONE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY NOW FORMALLY KNOWN AS COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE MOTION TO APPROVE SIX ZERO.
THERE IS AN ERIC PIAZZA WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM ON BOTH TWO AND THREE.
ERIC PIAZZA, 400 CONVENTION STREET.
ONE ITEM IS TO REZONE FROM RURAL TO PUD AND THE OTHER IS TO TO CHANGE A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM AG RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
DUE TO THE COMMERCIAL USE, BOTH OF THESE ITEMS HAD NO OPPOSITION TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY BOTH WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
THEY BOTH HAVE THE, THE SUPPORT AND APPROVAL OF COUNCILMAN NOLL.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROCK ITEM.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM TWO AND THREE HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
[Items 4 & 5]
GO TO ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO OFFICE, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF JONES CREEK, SOUTH TERRO DISTRICT EIGHT.MOTION TO APPROVE IS SEVEN ZERO.
THIS IS PA 12 DASH 2 3 3 5 4 0 JONES CREEK ROAD AND THEN CASE 44 DASH 2 3 3 5 4 0 JONES CREEK ROAD TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO GENERAL OFFICE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF JONES CREEK ROAD, SOUTH VENTURA ROAD DISTRICT.
A MOTION TO APPROVE CARRIE SEVEN OH AT THE COMMISSION.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE? WE DO HAVE A CLAIRE GOWDY.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I HAVE TO SPEAK.
DOES IT, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT IT SLATED TO PASS? WELL THEY PASSED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT THIS BODY DOES IN A FEW SECONDS.
BUT IF YOU ARE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, IF YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA PASS, RIGHT
UH, UNLESS YOU STILL HEAR FROM ME.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK, BUT IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AFTERWARDS, I'LL LET YOU.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MA SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE HAVE UH, PASSED AND WE NOW GO
[Items 6 & 7]
TO ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, WHICH REQUIRE EIGHT VOTES.UH, PA ONE THREE DASH 2 3 5 4 6 6 DOUGLAS AVENUE TO AMEND COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO COMMERCIAL, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF DOUGLAS AVENUE, DISTRICT FIVE COMMISSION ACTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE EIGHT ZERO AND ITEM SEVEN, CASE 5 4 2 3 5 4 6 6 DOUGLAS AVENUE TO REZO PROPERTY FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL, ONE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF DOUGLAS AVENUE, SOUTH OF HOLLYWOOD STREET.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX AND SEVEN? COUNCIL MEMBER HIRST.
MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX AND SEVEN BY COUNCIL MEMBER HIRST.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM SIX AND SEVEN HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
[8. 23-01290 Case 51-23 10611 Greenwell Springs Road]
I MEAN ITEM EIGHT, CASE 5 1 2 3 1 0 6 1 1 GREENWOOD SPRINGS ROAD TO REZO PROPERTY FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LIFE COMMERCIAL TWO LOCATED ON NORTH SIDE OF GREENWOOD SPRING ROAD, WEST OF BLATON DRIVE.IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER HURST.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURST.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ANY OBJECTION? ITEM EIGHT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[9. 23-01291 Case 52-23 2574 North Acadian Thruway East]
TAKES FIVE TWO DASH 2 3 2 5 7 4 NORTH ACADIAN THREEWAY EAST TO REZONED PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR LOUNGE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH.ACA THREEWAY SOUTH OF SENECA STREET COMMISSION.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROOSA.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM NINE HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[10. 23-01292 Case 53-23 8400-8500 Nicholson Drive]
TO 10 CASE FIVE THREE DASH 23 8400 THROUGH 8,500 NICHOLSON DRIVE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RURAL TO EVERY COMMERCIAL LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NICHOLSON, DRIVE NORTH OF INNOVATION PARK DRIVE COUNCIL.[00:45:01]
DISTRICT THREE.EIGHT ZERO WAS THE COMMISSION'S ACTION.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 10? COUNCIL MEMBER GODDE.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER GODDE.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM 10 HAS BEEN APPROVED.
WE GO TO ITEM 11 5 5 2 3 1 1600
[11. 23-01293 Case 55-23 1600-1700 Oak Villa Boulevard]
THROUGH 1700 OAK VILLA BOULEVARD.THERE REZO PROPERTY FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSING.
THREE LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOM DRIVE, WEST OAKVILLE BOULEVARD.
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, ADAM.
ANY OBJECTION? ITEM 11 HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[12. 23-01294 RV-2-23 Mourning Dove Drive]
RV DASH TWO DASH TWO THREE.MORNING DOVE DRIVE TO REVOKE A PORTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT RIGHT OF WAY OF MORNING DOVE DRIVE AT 15 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY SERVITUDE AND A 15 FOOT PUBLIC SEWER SERVITUDE ALONG REGULARLY AVENUE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF MORNING DRIVE, DOVE DRIVE BETWEEN JEFFERSON HIGHWAY AND STUM LANE.
MOTION TO APPROVE A ZERO BY THE COMMISSION.
IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON? MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN HUNTER.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. ANY OBJECTION? ITEM 12 HAS BEEN APPROVED.
MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COUNCIL MEMBER ARO.
COUNCIL MEMBER SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON.
ANY ANY OBJECTIONS MEETING ADJOURNED.