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GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE,

[Police Chief Candidate Review Meeting on October 26, 2023.]

UH, SECOND EVENING OF INTERVIEWS FOR, UH, CANDIDATES FOR CHIEF OF POLICE FOR BATON ROUGE.

UM, WE WILL USE THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE USED ON MONDAY.

UM, WHEN THE CANDIDATES COME, THEY'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DO THEIR OPENING.

UM, WE WILL GO AROUND AND EACH, UH, EACH OF US WILL HAVE, UH, THE OPTION TO ASK TWO QUESTIONS.

UM, CANDIDATES WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ANSWER EACH QUESTION, UH, AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES, UH, FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS.

UH, IF NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE READY TO GET STARTED.

OKAY.

WAITING ON AN AGENDA SO WE DO THINGS IN THE RIGHT ORDER.

OKAY.

WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL, UH, MR. GREEN HERE.

MR. BRINA? HERE.

MS. VICTORIAN.

PRESENT.

MR. MCCLANAHAN? HERE.

REVEREND GIBSON? HERE.

REVEREND DE GRAVELS.

HERE.

MR. COLLINS? NOT HERE.

MS. MATTHEWS PRESENT.

AND JENNIFER CARDWELL.

I'M PRESENT.

SO THAT GIVES US A QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, NEXT, UH, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED MINUTES IN THEIR EMAIL.

UH, DO I HAVE ANYBODY WHO CAN? UH, THANK YOU, MS. VICTORIAN MOVING AND MR. MCCLANAHAN SECONDING APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT, NOW, I BELIEVE YES, SIR.

WHAT ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? YEAH.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE READY FOR CANDIDATE INTERVIEWS.

WE WILL BE SEEING MR. GLOVER FIRST.

DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAD, UH, IF, IF EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE TALKING ABOUT THE RECORDS OR IF WE NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH ANY OF THE CANDIDATES? UH, NO, MA'AM.

NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT I WAS ALSO GONNA SAY THAT YOU WANNA MOVE TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, DO I HAVE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? SO, MOVE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT MS. VICTORIAN, MR. MCCLANAHAN MOVING AND SECONDING.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, MA'AM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THIS AGENDA? NO, WE DID THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR FIRST CANDIDATE, UH, MR. GLOVER, GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

GOOD EVENING.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, MR. GLOVER.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING ALL THE WAY OVER HERE FOR OUR, UH, OUR INTERVIEW.

THANK YOU.

THE WAY THIS, UH, PROCEDURE'S GONNA WORK IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR OPENING STATEMENTS.

THEN WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND THE CIRCLE.

EVERYONE'S GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK YOU A ONE QUESTION.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ANSWER EACH OF THOSE.

THEN WE'LL GO AROUND A SECOND TIME FOR A SECOND QUESTION, AND THEN AT THE END, YOU'LL HAVE, UH, TWO MINUTES FOR A CLOSING, UH, STATEMENT.

OKAY? OKAY.

YOU SAY TWO MINUTES FOR OPENING, OR THREE THREE MINUTES FOR OPENING.

TWO MINUTES FOR CLOSING.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

GOOD EVENING TO THIS AUSPICIOUS BODY.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSY SCHEDULES TO COME IN, MAKE SURE THAT BATON ROUGE DOES IT RIGHT.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M HONORED TO BE ABLE TO STAND BEFORE YOU AND LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT MYSELF.

UH,

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I AM A NATIVE LOUISIANAN, BORN TO LULU, LOUISIANA.

THAT'S JUST UP THE ROAD ON THE RIVER.

WENT TO SCHOOL AT GRAMBLING.

UH, I GREW UP CHOPPING COTTON AND CHOPPING BEANS DURING THE SUMMER TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SCHOOLS STARTED, I HAD A PAIR OF CHUCK TAYLOR'S.

I HOPE Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

CHUCK TAYLOR.

ALL STARS AND A PAIR OF, UH, LEVI JEANS THAT GOT ME THROUGH THE YEAR.

DURING THE WINTER WHEN SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION, I PICKED PECANS.

ENDED UP GRADUATING AN HONOR STUDENT FROM MY HIGH SCHOOL, BECAME A NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLAR, AND ATTENDED GRAMBLING STATE UNIVERSITY ON AN ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIP WHERE I WAS TOO SCARED TO FAIL BECAUSE IF I FAILED, I KNEW I HAD TO GO HOME AND FACE MY GRANDMOTHER, WHO WAS FIVE, TWO AND 90 POUNDS.

WE, AND BELIEVE ME, I WAS SCARED OF IT.

SERIOUSLY.

SO I STUDIED HARD, BECAME A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER IN 1981, I SERVED WITH DALLAS FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.

36 AND A HALF, ALMOST OF THOSE YEARS.

I REACHED THE RANK OF LIEUTENANT IN THE DALLAS PD, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST CIVIL SERVICE RANK YOU CAN GET ON YOUR OWN.

ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS APPOINTED.

WHEN I LEFT DALLAS PD IN 2020, EARLY 2021, I WAS IN CHARGE OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT UNIT FOR THE SOUTHEAST DIVISION.

DALLAS IS 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE.

IT'S DIVIDED INTO SEVEN GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS, AND EACH ONE OF THOSE GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS OPERATES LIKE A SEPARATE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU HAVE A DEPUTY CHIEF, AND THEN YOU HAVE FOUR LIEUTENANTS, PART OF THE COMMAND STAFF.

I WAS IN CHARGE AS A LIEUTENANT OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PARTNERED WITH BUSINESSES RESPONSIBLE FOR OVER 200 COMMUNITY GROUPS.

SO COMMUNITY POLICING IS SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT.

AFTER LEAVING DALLAS, I SERVED AS CHIEF OF POLICE IN THE LAFAYETTE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR, AND I WANNA GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

I WAS ABRUPTLY TERMINATED AS A CHIEF OF POLICE IN LAFAYETTE.

THERE WERE MAJOR NEWS STORIES DONE ABOUT IT.

TO THIS DAY, I HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD WHY I WAS GIVEN INFORMATION THAT I WAS THE BEST CHIEF IN AMERICA.

I WALKED THE STREETS, I WENT FROM DOOR TO DOOR.

I WENT TO THE RECREATION CENTERS AND PLAYED WITH THE KIDS.

UH, YOU KNOW, I DID EVERYTHING IN THE COMMUNITY, GOING TO BARBER SHOPS, GOING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BEAUTY PARLORS, MAKING SURE THAT I VISITED CHURCHES AND PUSHED THE REFORMS THAT I WAS BROUGHT IN FOR IN LAFAYETTE.

AND BATON ROUGE ARE SMALLER MICROCOSMS OF WHAT DALLAS WAS 40 YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME THROUGH THE DISPARITY IN THE USE OF FORCE, DISPARITY IN THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE.

VERY FEW, UH, PEOPLE OF DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS IN THE UPPER COMMAND.

AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME IN, CONGRESS CAME IN, HAD CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS, SO WE WERE FORCED TO DO IT.

AND I WENT TO LAFAYETTE WITH THAT EDICT.

I WAS HIRED TO DO IT 36 HOURS BEFORE I WAS TERMINATED, I WAS TOLD THAT I TRUST YOU TO GET THE JOB DONE.

YOU'RE THE BEST CHIEF.

AND I WAS CALLED IN WITH 30 MINUTES LATE, UH, NOTICE AND TERMINATED.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA START WITH QUESTIONS.

UH, WE'LL START WITH MR. GREEN.

YES, SIR.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, MIKE? MIC? I DO NOW, , WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PILLAR OF 21 FIRST 21ST CENTURY POLICE POLICING? OKAY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THAT OF ALL SIX PILLARS, THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THE TRUST AND LEGITIMACY.

IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY DON'T SHARE TRUST, THEN NONE OF THOSE OTHERS ARE GONNA BE WORTH ANYTHING.

TRUST AND LEGITIMACY MEANS THAT THE PEOPLE TRUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET THE JOB DONE.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TRANSPARENT.

THEY ARE OPEN WITH PEOPLE THAT THEY TALK TO, AND THEY DON'T KEEP ANYTHING HID.

AND THE MAIN THING IS THEY ALLOW THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY PUT 41 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ON THAT AND SAY TRUST AND LEGITIMACY.

WITHOUT THAT, THE OTHERS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

HOW YOU DOING, MR. GLOVER? SO GOOD, SIR.

MY QUESTION IS FROM CATEGORY 12, POSSIBLE QUESTIONS FOR NON BRPD CANDIDATES.

SO SEEING AS YOU WERE AN OFFICER IN DALLAS FOR SUCH A LONG TIME, AND ALSO THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR LAFAYETTE, HOW HAS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE PREVIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES PROVIDED YOU WITH INSIGHT OR INFORMATION ABOUT STRUCTURE, PROCEDURES, COLLABORATION WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, ET CETERA, THAT CAN INFORM YOUR LEADERSHIP IN BATON ROUGE IF SELECTED AS CHIEF OF POLICE FOR AON? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE MOST VALUABLE LESSON I LEARNED FROM WORKING 41 YEARS IN POLICING IS TWO WORDS,

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AND THAT'S DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU ARE AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOW MANY CASES YOU SAW, HOW MANY TICKETS YOU WRITE, UNLESS YOU ARE EMPATHETIC TOWARD THEM.

AND YOU SHOW THEM DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

AND I PREACH THAT THROUGHOUT MY CAREER AS DOCUMENTED IN THE NEWS.

AND WHEN I WENT TO LAFAYETTE, THERE WAS A CENTRAL MESSAGE, DIGNITY, AND RESPECT.

ALSO, THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, AS A CHIEF OF POLICE IN LAFAYETTE, I DID SOMETHING THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE IN 11 YEARS.

ACCORDING TO THE US ATTORNEY FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF, UH, LOUISIANA, I STARTED A CRIME FIGHTING TASK FORCE WHERE WE COLLABORATED AND WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE FBI, THE DEA, THE ATF, LOUISIANA STATE POLICE, US MARSHALS, LAFAYETTE PARISH SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA, LAFAYETTE POLICE DEPARTMENT, LAFAYETTE CITY MARSHALS, LOUISIANA ADULT PROBATION AND PAROLE, AND LOUISIANA JUVENILE PROBATION AND PAROLE, AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

ALL 12 OF THOSE AGENCIES WORKING TOGETHER, WE GOT SOME OF THE MOST HARDENED CRIMINALS OFF THE STREET IN THE STREETS, UH, IN THE CITY OF LAFAYETTE.

SO MY POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS I'M WELL VERSED IN WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES.

I, I, I MAKE THAT A, A, A PREMISE OF MY, UH, POLICING.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES, THEY HAVE SOME EFFORTS, AND THEY HAVE TIME TO WORK WITH US.

AND SO THAT'S, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT I LEARNED AS POLICE CHIEF AS WELL AS A COMMANDER IN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN'T MAKE IT UNLESS YOU WORK WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.

IT'S NOT A ONE PONY SHOW, AS THEY SAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MR. GLOVER.

GOOD EVENING.

MY QUESTION IS COMING FROM CATEGORY STANDARDS AND STRATEGIES, PLEASE DISCUSS WITH US IDEAS YOU, YOU HAVE FOR VIOLENCE REDUCTION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

THE FIRST THING YOU GOTTA DO WHEN YOU WANT TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME IS YOU HAVE TO TARGET THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTING A CRIME.

AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THEY'RE ONLY PROBABLY ALL OVER AMERICA, ABOUT 10% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE NOT TOLERANT OF THE VIOLENCE.

AND WHAT I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO A LOCATION AND YOU START TRYING TO WORK A CRIME PROGRAM, YOU GET COOPERATION ABOUT FROM 10% OF THE PEOPLE.

THERE'S ANOTHER 70% THAT ARE TOLERANT, BUT NOT OPENLY TOLERANT.

AND I MEAN THAT THEY DON'T CALL YOU.

THEY MAY SEE SOMETHING AND KEEP GOING.

UH, IF THEY'RE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING, THEY'LL REPORT IT.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT IS YOU HAVE TO TARGET THE 10% OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NON TOLERANT OF VIOLENCE AND INCREASE IT.

AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE BASICALLY TOLERANT AND ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TO DECREASE THEIRS.

PROGRAMS THAT I'VE INSTITUTED, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I DID IN LAFAYETTE, AND I STILL TO THIS DAY, I'M PROUD OF IT.

WE WENT BACK TO OLD SCHOOL POLICING.

WE IDENTIFIED THE TOP 10 MOST WANTED PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF LAFAYETTE.

AND DURING THE COURSE OF DEVELOPING THAT LIST, IT WENT TO 13 OF THE MOST WANTED.

THESE WERE PEOPLE WANTED FOR MURDER, RAPE, ROBBERY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DRIVE-BY SHOOTINGS.

AND WE GOT 'EM ALL OFF THE STREET WITH THE HELP OF ALL THOSE GROUPS I JUST TOLD YOU ABOUT IN A LITTLE OF ABOUT A MONTH.

IN ADDITION TO TARGETING CRIMINALS AND GETTING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED, YOU HAVE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT COMMUNITY POLICING IS.

I TOLD PEOPLE FOR 40 YEARS, AND I'LL GIVE YOU THIS ANALOGY REAL QUICKLY, THE WEEDS ARE GROWING IN THE YARD, AND YOU ARE, YOU ARE THE LAWN GUY, AND YOU COME EVERY WEEK AND YOU CUT THE WEEDS DOWN AND THEY KEEP GROWING.

YOU PUT DOWN WEEDED PREVENTION AND IT DESTROYS THE WEEDS, AND YOU COME BACK MAYBE ONCE EVERY TWO TO THREE MONTHS.

CRIME IS THE SAME WAY.

WHEN YOU WORK WITH A COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU GET THEM INVOLVED, YOU ARE PRACTICING PREVENTION.

AND STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT ALL THE PLACES AROUND THIS COUNTRY THAT HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN CRIME HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. GLOVER, AND GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.

WHAT SKILLS OR ABILITIES HAVE YOU GAINED FROM YOUR CURRENT ASSIGNMENT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO STAND OUT AMONGST THE OTHER CANDIDATES? FIRST OF ALL, I AM, UH, A PERSON WHO PRACTICES PERSEVERANCE.

IF I'M CONFRONTED WITH A PROBLEM, I GO ALL OUT AT IT.

A GOOD EXAMPLE IS I WORKED ONE DAY, 20 HOURS IN THE LAFAYETTE POLICE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS. I AM VERY OPEN AND HONEST.

WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.

I AM THAT GOOD OLD COUNTRY BOY WHO

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WENT TO THE BIG CITY, BECAME A POLICE OFFICER, AND I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE IN THE COMMUNITY AS A POLICE OFFICER THAT'S DOCUMENTED.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE PERSEVERANCE, I AM ALSO SOMEONE WHO WILL GO OUT AND LOOK FOR PROBLEMS TO SOLVE.

I TEACH PROBLEM SOLVING AND CRITICAL THINKING TO THE OFFICERS IN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT BEFORE I RETIRED.

PROBLEM SOLVING AND CRITICAL THINKING IS NECESSARY ANYWHERE IN AMERICA.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO CUT CRIME, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THE BURGLARY PROBLEM AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS BASED ON PEOPLE NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO DO.

I'M ALSO, AND I'M A PROPONENT OF THIS, I LOVE KIDS.

I LOVE HUMANITY.

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOU CAN'T BE AN EFFECTIVE POLICE OFFICER WITHOUT LOVING PEOPLE.

AND WHEN I SAY LOVING PEOPLE, I JUST WANNA SEE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN.

I STILL CRY WHEN I WATCH CERTAIN THINGS ON TV.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE PERSEVERANCE, THE ABILITY TO BE OPEN TO MEET AND GREET PEOPLE, I'M A GREAT PROBLEM SOLVER.

I GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE, I UNDERSTAND TEAMWORK.

AND IF I'M HIRED AS THE LAFAYETTE POLICE, I MEAN THE, UH, BATON ROUGE POLICE CHIEF, EXCUSE ME.

I PROMISE YOU, YOU'LL SEE ME IN THE CHURCHES, YOU'LL SEE ME IN THE SCHOOLS.

UH, I WENT INTO THE PARKS IN LAFAYETTE AND PAINTED THE DUGOUTS AND PICKED UP TRASH.

I WENT TO THE RECREATION CENTERS AND PLAYED BASKETBALL WITH THE KIDS.

SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING THAT I DO.

I VALUE THOSE, THE LITTLE ONES THAT ARE COMING UP, AND I KNOW THEY ARE OUR FUTURE, AND THAT'S WHAT I DO.

THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

UH, YES.

UH, THE POSITION OF CHIEF OF POLICE IS, IS, IS, IS THE C MAKES YOU THE CEO OF A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ORGANIZATION, WHICH OVERSEES HUNDREDS OF STAFF AND MILLIONS OF TAX DOLLARS AND MANAGES THOUSANDS OF PHYSICAL RESOURCES.

WHAT IN YOUR BACKGROUND MAKES YOU QUALIFIED TO SERVE AT THIS LEVEL? PLEASE PROVIDE SPECIFIC DETAILS.

NUMBER ONE, MY TRAINING IN DALLAS PD.

I GOT SPECIFIC TRAINING IN BUDGETING, BUT I ALSO WAS HEAD OF THE RECRUITING UNIT AT ONE TIME, AND I HAD A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUDGET TO RECRUIT ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.

WE BROUGHT IN PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY AND TESTED THEM.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS A LAFAYETTE POLICE CHIEF, I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALMOST A $50 MILLION BUDGET THAT WE PUT TOGETHER FROM SCRATCH, WHERE WE LOOKED AT OPERATING BUDGET, WHERE WE LOOKED AT COST ANALYSIS, WHERE WE LOOKED AT WHAT BUDGET PROCESS WAS BEST, WHETHER IT BE ZERO BASE BUDGETING OR SOMETHING ELSE.

AND SO I DO HAVE EXTENSIVE, EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN BUDGETING.

LAFAYETTE WAS THE FOURTH LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE OF LOUISIANA.

I HAD 350 EMPLOYEES.

300 WERE SWORN AND ABOUT 50 WERE NONE SWORN SUPPORT.

I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THAT BUDGET.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING I LEARNED ABOUT BUDGETING IS THAT WASTE IS NOT AN OPTION.

I REPEAT THAT ALL THE TIME.

SO I'VE PREPARED A BUDGET FOR A MAJOR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THIS STATE, THE FOURTH LARGEST CITY IN ADDITION TO YEARS.

I WAS IN CHARGE OF THE JAIL IN DALLAS FOR A WHILE.

WE PROCESSED, PROBABLY TOTAL ON THREE WATCHES, 15,000 PRISONERS.

I WAS IN CHARGE OF THE 9 1 1 CENTER FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO MY EXPERIENCE IN MANAGING PEOPLE, BUDGETING ALL GOES ALONG WITH MY MANAGEMENT TRAINING, WHICH INCIDENTALLY, I STARTED SUPERVISING AND MANAGING PEOPLE BACK IN 1988.

AND I KNOW THAT MAKES ME SEEM A LITTLE ANTIQUATED, BUT IT'S EX EXPERIENCE AND WISDOM.

SO I CAN DEFINITELY HANDLE THE BUDGET WITH NO PROBLEM.

I'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND IT WAS IMPLEMENTED.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MR. GLOVER.

HEY, GOOD EVENING, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU? UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU.

UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM IN BATON ROUGE, AND IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S ON THE RISE.

YES.

SO CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND TELL US WHAT YOU MIGHT DO TO HANDLE THAT PROBLEM? YOU HAVE TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO ME.

I RAN A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE UNIT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR 13 YEARS, RESPONSIBLE FOR CUTTING ANNUAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFENSES FROM AROUND 30,000 DOWN TO 12,000.

WE PRODUCED A PROGRAM, AND I STILL THINK I GOT COPIES OF THEM.

UH, PREVENTION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AMONG THE ELDERLY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST UNADDRESSED TOPICS IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WE PRODUCED A PROGRAM CALLED PREVENTION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AMONG APARTMENT DWELLERS.

PEOPLE A LOT OF TIMES DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT,

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BUT WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT, YOU'RE VERY TRANSIT.

YOU MOVE LEFT, RIGHT.

A LOT OF YOUR NEIGHBORS DON'T KNOW YOU.

YOU GET INJURED, YOU GET HURT.

THEY HAVE NO PERSONAL INTEREST IN IT.

SO THAT'S THE SECOND PROGRAM.

WE THEN DID A PROGRAM CALLED PREVENTION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AMONG SPANISH SPEAKERS, SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POPULATION IS HERE IN LAFAYETTE, I MEAN IN OUR BATON ROUGE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY ARE GROWING TREMENDOUSLY, AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE.

WE HAD PROGRAMS CALLED STOP.

I TOLD YOU I BELIEVE THAT YOU GOTTA GO INTO THE SCHOOLS.

WE DID A PROGRAM THAT'S SIMILAR TO DARE AND MOST PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH DARE.

BUT IT WAS CALLED IN MY HOME, WHERE PEOPLE ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD GO TO SCHOOLS AND WORK WITH CHILDREN.

AND RATHER THAN TOTALLY CONFINED IN YOUR INSTRUCTION TO DRUG PREVENTION, YOU ALSO DID THE, UM, THE PREVENTION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

INCIDENTALLY, I AM A CERTIFIED, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, EXPERT TRAINED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN.

I'M AN EXPERT PANELIST FOR THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT.

THAT, UH, WAS PASSED BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WAS SELECTED IN THE LATE NINETIES TO SERVE ON THE TRAINING BOARD TO TRAIN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE JU TO JUVENILE JUSTICE JUDGES.

SO THAT'S A PASSION OF MINE THAT I SERVE LONG IN THAT POSITION IN ANYTHING.

THANK YOU.

HOW YOU DOING TODAY, MR. GLOVER? I AM GREAT, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU? DOING WELL.

DOING WELL, SIR.

UH, BEFORE I ASK YOU A QUESTION, I I, I FOLLOWED YOUR TIME IN LAFAYETTE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, JUST TO SAY, UH, WHEN YOU WERE THERE, YOU STOOD UP FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A DOGGONE SHA WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? YES.

UH, SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK THERE, SIR.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

YES, SIR.

UM, SO I, A QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. GL IS CAN YOU SHARE YOUR INSIGHTS ON THE BROKEN WINDOWS APPROACH AND STOPPING FRISK TACTICS? WELL, FIRST I'LL TAKE THE BROKEN WINDOWS.

THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, STARTED OUT AS A SOCIOLOGICAL THEORY WHERE PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOODS, IF THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NEXT DOOR OR THE HOUSE AROUND THE BLOCK, AND IT'S ONLY WEEDS GROWING UP, THE NEXT THING YOU'LL SEE TRASH IN THE YARD.

THE NEXT THING YOU'LL SEE, MAYBE SOME OF THE PROPERTY DAMAGE, THE NEXT THING YOU'LL SEE IS A BROKEN WINDOWS IN THE HOUSE WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE PHYSICALLY BREAKING THE WINDOWS.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT IS ACTUALLY THE HOUSE MAY BECOME INHABITED BY TRANSIENT BY PEOPLE WHO ARE STASHING AND USING DRUGS.

AND SO THAT BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY HAS A LOT OF LEGITIMACY TO IT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE BROKEN WINDOW, THE NEXT THING YOU'LL HAVE SIGNIFICANT DRUG USE, YOU'LL HAVE SIGNIFICANT CRIME, THAT PROPERTY WILL BECOME BLIGHTED AND PEOPLE WON'T, UH, WON'T REALLY CARE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PROPERTY VALUES GO DOWN, BUSINESSES SUFFER.

SO THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY IS PROBABLY THE MOST SIMPLE WAY TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT TRAINED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, HOW TO STOP THE SPREAD BY TELLING 'EM THAT WINDOW'S BROKEN.

YOU NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY WHO CAN GET IT FIXED.

YOU NEED TO CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT KINDA WAY, NOW, STOP AND FRISK, STOP AND FRISK IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST ABUSIVE THINGS THAT GOES ON IN POLICING.

AND A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS DON'T LIKE TO HEAR IT, BUT I TELL THE TRUTH ON IT.

THE STOP AND FRISK, THE TERRY CASE, TERRY V OHIO SAID THAT IT'S OKAY FOR A POLICE OFFICER IF HE HAS TWO THINGS, REASONABLE SUSPICION OR PROBABLE CAUSE TO APPROACH SOMEONE ON THE STREET, MAYBE PAT 'EM DOWN.

BUT IT TALKED ABOUT USING THE BACK PART OF YOUR HAND, TAPPING IT, AND IF YOU FELL SOMETHING, GO IN AND GET IT OUT FOR YOUR SAFETY STOP AND FRISK.

IN THE 1980S AND NINETIES, AS PART OF NEW YORK CITY'S WAR CRIME BECAME SO ABUSIVE THAT IT EVOLVED INTO RACIAL PROFILE.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, AS POLICE CHIEF, I WOULD HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON.

AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS, I HAD A COMPLIANCE, COMPLIANCE OFFICER WRAP, WRAP IT UP.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

THANKS.

.

AS POLICE CHIEF, I HAD A COMPLIANCE OFFICER WHOSE JOB WAS TO WATCH BODY CAMERAS ON A FULL TIME BASIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROCESS WASN'T VIOLATED.

THANK YOU.

HI, MR. GLOVER.

I'M GREAT.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

UM, SO I KNOW YOU, I'M SURE YOU FOLLOWED BRPD, RIGHT? YES.

UM, AND SO THIS QUESTION IS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT.

LOOKING TO THE FUTURE OF BRPD, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS THE DEPARTMENT'S GREATEST DIFFICULTY, UM, THAT IT WILL ENCOUNTER? WHAT AREAS DO YOU BELIEVE SHOW PROMISE OR HAVE GREAT POTENTIAL? NUMBER ONE, THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE

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OVER THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS IMPACTED BATON ROUGE PD.

A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED, BODY CAMERAS ENHANCING INTERNAL AFFAIRS, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST THEM IS PROPERLY INVESTIGATED.

PRACTICING PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY BIG.

IF YOU HAVE TO INVESTIGATE AN OFFICE AND HE OR SHE KNOWS THAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM AND DOING IT RIGHT, THEN THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT.

THAT'S A STRONG POINT.

AND, AND THE MAIN THING IS THE REDUCTION IN USE OF FORCE, THE REDUCTION IN QUESTIONABLE BEHAVIOR.

ALL THOSE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT HAVE COME ABOUT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IN BATON ROUGE PD.

AND I KNOW THAT MIGHT SEEM AS THOUGH IT'S TOTALLY OPPOSITE BEHIND THE BRAVE CAVE INCIDENT, BUT THAT BRAVE CAVE INCIDENT WAS HANDLED PROPERLY.

SO I THINK THE PEOPLE IN BATON ROUGE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO MAKES SURE IT MOVES FORWARD.

BUT BATON ROUGE PD IS ON THE CUFFS OF BECOMING A GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S GOOD NOW YOU CAN GO FROM GOOD TO GREAT BY MAKING SURE THAT EVERY OFFICER IN THE DEPARTMENT, AND THIS IS THE OBSTACLE THAT EVERY OFFICER IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT REALIZES THAT HE OR SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE NEXT PERSON TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT DOESN'T MISTREAT PEOPLE.

MISUSES OF FORCE HAVE TO BE, YOU HAVE TO INTERVENE AND YOU HAVE TO STOP 'EM, AND YOU HAVE TO REPORT 'EM.

YOU CAN'T BURY YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND.

AND I SAY THIS WITH ALL CONVICTION, IF WE DON'T GET BUY-IN FROM POLICE OFFICERS IN THESE DEPARTMENTS, PARTICULARLY IN BATON ROUGE AND OTHERS, THAT THEY WILL NOT, WILL NOT TOLERATE BAD BEHAVIOR, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE FOR ANOTHER 40 YEARS.

IF YOU NOTICE RIGHT AFTER THE GEORGE FLOYD, WE WERE PUSHING FOR REFORM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, A YEAR LATER KIND OF DIED DOWN.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS BROUGHT INTO THAT PREVIOUS DEPARTMENT TO DO WHEN IT DIED DOWN AFTER I UNITED THE COMMUNITY, AFTER I MADE SURE THAT THE USES OF FORCE WERE APPROPRIATE, THEN, UH, I FELT GOOD ABOUT IT, BUT IT ENDED.

AND MOST OF THE THINGS THAT I DID, ALMOST ALL OF THEM WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO WERE REVERSED.

EVEN THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER THAT HAD MADE SURE THAT AN OFFICER'S BODY CAMERA WAS PROPERLY BEING WORN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UM, CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.

I'M A MEMBER OF A GROUP CALLED TOGETHER BATON ROUGE, AND ONE OF OUR, UH, ISSUES THAT WE'RE PROMOTING IS, UM, CREATING SOME SORT OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT AGENCY THAT WOULD, UM, WORK WITH BATON ROUGE POLICE.

SO ARE, TELL ME WHAT ABOUT YOUR FAMILIARITY WITH CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT AND THEN HOW YOU WOULD WORK WITH THAT? I AM GONNA RESPECTFULLY SAY TO THIS BOARD WHEN I'M ASKED SOMETHING AND I RESPOND, A LOT OF IT'S BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN POLICING SO LONG.

I'M A PROPONENT OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT, UH, IN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY I WORK WITH, AND SOME OF YOU GUYS MAY KNOW WHO LEE MERRIT IS.

HE IS AN ATTORNEY OUT OF DALLAS WHO SPENDS A LOT OF TIME WITH JONATHAN CRUMP, REPRESENTING PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO THEY THINK HAVE BEEN WRONGED.

I WORKED WITH, WITH LEE MERRIT, FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM TO STRENGTHEN OUR CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.

OUR CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT ACTUALLY STARTED IN THE 1980S, BUT IT HAD NO SUBPOENA POWER.

IT HAD NO POWER TO COMPEL AN OFFICER.

IF THEY GOT A SUBPOENA, THEY COULD GO FISHING.

WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT BOARD IN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT CAN ACTUALLY CONDUCT A SEPARATE INVESTIGATION IN TERMS OF WHAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS DOING.

PEOPLE RESENTED, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THEY SAY, WE GOT INTERNAL AFFAIRS, WE GOT THE DA'S OFFICE.

WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER BOARD? I SAY, WE GO TO THE CITIZEN, WE WANT A RAISE.

WE DON'T SAY WE GOT INTERNAL AFFAIRS, WE GO TO THE CITIZENS.

WE WANT OUR BENEFITS ENHANCED.

WHY CAN'T WE GO TO THE CITIZENS AND SAY IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE, UH, MR. GREEN, YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE PILLARS OF COMMUNITY, THAT POLICY AND OVERSIGHT PART, WHICH WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT'S FIRST LISTED, THAT POLICY AND OVERSIZED CIVILIANS WHO PAY OUR SALARY, WHO ENHANCE OUR PENSION BENEFITS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

AND I MADE IT, IT'S PUBLISHED IN A LOT OF NEWS ACCOUNTS IN LAFAYETTE THAT I WAS A PROPONENT OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO BACK TO MR. GREEN IF YOU HAVE A SECOND QUESTION.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. CLOVER.

I'M GREAT, SIR.

NO QUESTION.

NO QUESTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO THIS QUESTION'S FROM CATEGORY SIX, LEADERSHIP, CULTURE AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND OUT

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OF THE 20, WELL, I THINK IT'S 20 CANDIDATES THAT WE HAVE WHO ARE APPLYING, A LOT OF THEM ARE FROM BATON ROUGE OR THE SURROUNDING AREA, HAVE EXPERIENCE HERE.

AND SO GIVEN THAT YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN DEPARTMENTS OUTSIDE OF BATON ROUGE IN SORT OF DIFFERENT REALMS, LIKE DALLAS IS MUCH LARGER, THE, THERE'S A PARTICULAR QUESTION THAT I THINK WOULD BE INSIGHTFUL AND IT IS, WITHOUT DISCUSSING ANY DETAILS REGARDING THE BRAVE CAVE AND RELATED ACCUSATIONS, WHAT STEPS WOULD YOU TAKE TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE'S A CULTURAL ISSUE WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RELATED TO THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY, THAT IT WOULD NOT OCCUR? AGAIN? WHAT CHECKS OR BALANCES DO YOU BELIEVE ARE NECESSARY? FIRST OF ALL, WHEN YOU HAVE MISCONDUCT AND BAD BEHAVIOR IN A POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS YOU IDENTIFY IT.

AFTER YOU IDENTIFY IT, YOU ISOLATE IT, PUT IT OVER IN THE CORNER BY ITSELF.

AND AFTER THAT, YOU ELIMINATE IT AND YOU ELIMINATE IT THROUGH PUNISHMENT.

WHETHER IT'S A SIN THAT ONLY SHOULD BE PUNISHED BY A SUSPENSION OR WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PUNISHED BY TERMINATION AND WHETHER IT SHOULD BE PUNISHED BY TERMINATION PLUS CRIMINAL CHARGES.

I CAN TELL YOU, I BELIEVE THAT TER WORKS.

I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND EVERY OFFICER WHO DOES HIS OR HER JOB.

RIGHT.

I WILL PROSECUTE TO THE FULLEST AND OFFICER WHO DOES HIS OR HER JOB AND VIOLATES THE LAW AND VIOLATES THE TRUST AND PUSH THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE IN A DILEMMA WHERE THEY POSSIBLY FACE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT.

SIX HOURS INTO MY JOB AS CHIEF OF POLICE IN LAFAYETTE, I HAD AN OFFICER BEAT UP A HANDCUFFED PRISON TO JAIL, STRUCK HIM EIGHT TIMES TO THE FACE.

THEY CALLED ME AND TOLD ME ABOUT IT.

I SAID, PUT HIM ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE AS ISOLATING HIM.

INVESTIGATE, INVESTIGATED.

THEY SAID, CHIEF, NOBODY'S AT, OH, LET'S WAIT UNTIL MONDAY.

I SAID, NO, WE ARE GONNA DO IT RIGHT NOW.

WE GONNA DO IT IN THE OPEN.

I ENDED UP FIRING THAT GUY FOUR MONTHS LATER.

NOT ONLY DID I FIRE HIM, BUT WE FILED FELONY CHARGES ONLY.

UH, I HAD FELONY CHARGES FILED ON THE SECOND OFFICER.

SO DETERRENCE CAN BE DONE THROUGH PUNISHING THE BAD BEHAVIOR WITH CRIMINAL SANCTIONS, ADMINISTRA, ADMINISTRATIVE SANCTIONS LIKE TERMINATION, AND YOU ALSO HAVE TRAINING ISSUES.

I HAD AN OFFICER TO HOG TIE AN INDIVIDUAL AND HOG TIE HAS BEEN OUTLAWED IN MOST INSTANCES BECAUSE OF THE POSITION WHEN ASPHYXIATION WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, CAN'T BREATHE.

BUT WE WERE TRAINING SOME PEOPLE IN LAFAYETTE TO DO IT.

AND SO I DISCIPLINED HIM, BUT IT WAS MORE OF A COUNSELING SESSION, SIT DOWN AND I MADE SURE I STOPPED THAT TYPE OF TRAINING.

SO YOU ISOLATE THE BEHAVIOR AFTER YOU'VE IDENTIFIED AND YOU ELIMINATE IT THROUGH TERMINATION, THROUGH CRIMINAL CHARGES, OR IT MAY BE A TRAINING ISSUE.

EVERY PIECE OF BAD BEHAVIOR IN A POLICE OFFICER IS NOT, UH, PUNISHABLE BY TERMINATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND BEFORE I GET STARTED, I DO WANNA TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE ON TONIGHT.

PARTICULARLY THE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN IN THE RED AND WHITE OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY INCORPORATED, WHO ARE ALWAYS ON THE FOREFRONT OF BEING LEADERS.

AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE ONCE AGAIN, PARTICULARLY THE DELTA, THE WOMEN OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY INCORPORATED FOR GIVING OF YOUR TIME TO BE HERE WITH US, TO BE A PART OF THIS RICH PROCESS.

MR. GLOVER? YES.

UH, BACK TO YOU.

MY QUESTION IS COMING FROM CATEGORY, PERSONAL APPROACH AND LEADERSHIP, WHAT DOES THE FIRST 100 DAYS LOOK? WHAT DOES THE FIRST 100 DAYS LOOK LIKE? RANK THE TOP FIVE PRIORITIES AND YOUR PROCESS OF ACCOMPLISHING THEM.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION? I TURN IN A 30 DAY PLAN THAT IT, WAS IT NOT GIVEN TO YOU GUYS? OKAY.

NUMBER ONE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO MAKE SURE I'M ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE MAYOR.

PRESIDENT.

I HAVE TO DO THAT.

I HAVE TO KNOW WHICH DIRECTION THIS DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO GO IN SOME TYPE OF ANALYSIS.

I ALSO SPEAK IN DEPTH WITH CHIEF MURPHY TO FIND OUT WHAT WE CALL A SWOT ANALYSIS, STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS, AND FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO THAT I CAN ADDRESS THEM.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU STROKE WITH A FEATHER, THOSE LIFE THINGSS MISTAKES OF THE HEART, UH, YOU KNOW OF THE HEAD.

AND THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU MIGHT NEED TO TAKE, I'LL USE THIS TERM LIGHTLY, A WRECKING BALL TOO.

THE BRAVE CAVE, MISUSE OF FORCE ABUSE OF PEOPLE.

SO I MEET WITH THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT TO MAKE SURE I'M ON THE SAME PAGE.

I MEET WITH THE ACTUAL PERSON WHO FILLED THIS JOB FOR THE LAST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS.

I TALKED TO THE POLICE UNION, I TALKED TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, I TALKED TO BUSINESS LEADERS.

I TALKED TO THE ACTUAL PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE WALKING

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THE STREETS OF, OF, UH, BATON ROUGE WHO NEED TO BE SAFE.

AND ONCE I DO THAT, THAT PAGE THAT I PUT IN THERE ABOUT THE 30 DAY PLAN, I HAD WHAT I CALLED A SHORT TERM.

I NEED TO DO A SHORT TERM, A SHORT TERM, SHORT TERM WAR ON CRIME, SOME TYPE OF PLAN WHERE I WOULD SAY THE TOP FIVE MOST WANTED PEOPLE IN LAFAYETTE.

I MEAN IN A, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

FORGIVE ME.

THE MOST WANTED PEOPLE IN BATON ROUGE.

I HAVE TO.

YOU IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE.

YOU TAKE AWAY ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF CRIME, A VICTIM OFFENDER, AN OPPORTUNITY.

IF YOU TAKE THAT OFFENDER OFF THE STREET, YOU CAN CUT CRIME SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO I'M GONNA DO THE NECESSARY MEETINGS THAT I CAN GET MY FEET ON THE GROUND AND GET WET.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO EXERCISE MY PREROGATIVE AS CHIEF, DO SOME TYPE OF IMMEDIATE CRIME INITIATIVE THAT WILL BE FROM ME MEETING AND TALKING TO PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THE CITIZENS.

BY THE WAY, COULD I THROW A TIDBIT IN? I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF THE PANHELLENIC COUNCIL BEING AN ALPHA MYSELF.

AND SO YOU'LL KNOW I'M FROM FARADAY, LOUISIANA, AND I'M FROM TALLAH.

I KNOW VERY WELL.

YEAH, , EXCUSE ME, BROTHER GL, BUT, BUT I APPRECIATE IT NOW FOR, MAN.

OH MY.

SO YOU, I'M A NORTH LOUISIANA GUY TOO.

I'M FROM A LITTLE TOWN CALLED THE WALLACE, SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS QUESTION.

OKAY.

SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE BAYOU CLASSIC, WHO DO YOU ROOT FOR ? THE FIRST HALF.

I SIT ON RAMBLING SIDE.

RELEVANCE.

AND THE SECOND HALF, I SIT ON SOUTHERN SIDE .

ALRIGHT, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

, I LIKE WHAT YOU DID.

ALL RIGHT, REVEREND GIBSON, WE'LL MOVE TO YOU B BR THIS QUESTION COMES FROM RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, AND PERSONNEL SUPPORT.

BRPT HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS AS OF LATE.

THESE NEWS STORIES HAVE CERTAINLY HAD AN IMPACT ON THE OFFICER'S MORALE WITH INTERNAL INVESTIGATION, EXTERNAL INVESTIGATION AND LAWSUITS PENDING INVOLVING OFFICER MISCONDUCT.

HOW WOULD YOU RAISE MORALE IN THE DEPARTMENT AMONG YOUR OFFICERS? I THINK THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO IN ORDER TO RAISE MORALE IS YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO OFFICERS AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY TO YOU IN THINGS THAT COULD BE INSTITUTED WITHOUT A LOT OF APPROVAL, WITHOUT COST OR BUDGET, THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN DO THOSE.

THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL SAY IS, THE BIGGEST RECRUITER FOR ANY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A PERSON ALREADY IN THE DEPARTMENT WEARING A BADGE.

YOU CAN SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS RECRUITING BY ADS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE ON THE DEPARTMENT SPEAKING UP, THEN IT'S USELESS.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, MORALE, PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, IF YOU HAVE TO CALL AN OFFICER IN TO INVESTIGATE HIM OR HER PROCEDURAL JUSTICE SAYS THAT YOU EXPLAIN TO HIM, YOU GIVE THEM THE PROCEDURE, YOU FOLLOW THE STEPS, YOU TALK TO THEM, AND YOU LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

PROCEDURAL JUSTICE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THINGS WE'VE COME UP WITH IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FOR THAT MATTER IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THE LAST 50 YEARS, BECAUSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.

SO NUMBER ONE, YOU ALSO DO SOMETHING CALLED JOB ROTATION.

IF AN OFFICER IS BURNED OUT IN PATROL, LET HIM GO WORK PERIODICALLY IN THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION AND OBSERVE AN INTERROGATION.

LET HIM OR HER GO IN AND WORK IN TRAINING AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE DONE.

THAT'S CALLED JOB ROTATION.

JOB ENRICHMENT.

AS YOU ADD INCENTIVES TO THEIR, UM, ABILITY TO WORK, FOR INSTANCE, A GUY COMES TO WORK AND HE OR SHE HAS WORKED 30 HOURS OVERTIME AND THEY DO SOMETHING THAT'S GREAT, YOU RECOGNIZE THEM.

RECOGNITION IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IN POLICING THAT WILL PUSH A PERSON TO CONTINUE TO MOVE.

INCIDENTALLY, AGAIN, I'M, I'M VERY HUMBLE, BUT I RAN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TRAINING AND I'M, I'M SORRY, RECRUITING ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS.

I HAD A STAFF OF 53 PEOPLE.

AND THAT BUDGETING EXPERIENCE I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, MUCH OF IT WAS ADVERTISEMENT MEDIA, BUYING THINGS IN THE NEWSPAPER, BUT ALSO TRAVELING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, KNOWING WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO WHEN THEY BECOME A POLICE OFFICER.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO NOT BE STUCK IN ONE JOB FOR 50 YEARS.

AND YOU OFFER THEM THE ABILITY TO DO THAT TOO.

THANK YOU.

MR. GLOVER, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT HOLDING POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE.

UH, COULD YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH POLICE UNIONS AND THE CONNECTION BETWEEN HOLDING POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH UNION?

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YOU GUYS DON'T LAUGH, BUT I'M AN EX UNION PRESIDENT.

I WENT INTO THE UNION PRESIDENT BUSINESS IN 1994, ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE UNION I WAS IN CHARGE OF YIELDED A LOT OF POLITICAL POWER.

WE TOOK IN ABOUT $25,000 A MONTH IN DUES.

WE HAD A MILLION DOLLAR BUILDING.

SO PEOPLE LISTEN TO US.

THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO PHASE AS A POLICE OFFICER AND AS A POLICE CHIEF, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT I BELIEVE IN WORKING WITH UNIONS.

I BELIEVE IN HEARING THEM.

I'M AN EX UNION GUY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I TELL PEOPLE A UNION CANNOT RUN A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND IMPLEMENT SOME POLICIES THAT BENEFIT THE CITY, BENEFIT THE CITIZENS AND DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU.

BUT MY THING IS, A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENS IN POLICING TODAY IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE UNIONS, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE UNIONS ON OUR SIDE.

AND UH, I I THINK THAT YOU DO THAT BY BRINGING THEM TO THE TABLE.

YOU NOTICE WHEN I PUT IN THAT 30 DAY PLAN, I DID PUT MEET WITH THE BATON ROUGE POLICE UNION BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THEY WIELD A LOT OF POLITICAL POWER.

YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE DEALS JUST LIKE PEOPLE DO.

YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO WEAR A BEARD BEARDS IN LAFAYETTE.

AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, I'LL LET YOU WEAR BEARDS.

WHAT DO WE GET? BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT YOU, I WANT YOU TO CALL ALL THOSE PEOPLE BACK TO WORK THAT HAVE BEEN OFF SICK FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

'CAUSE THEY'RE HURTING YOU.

WE GOT A 42 PERSON DEFICIT IN MANPOWER AND I GOT 18 OF THOSE.

THE PEOPLE THAT OFF WORK, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S THE KINDA THING YOU DO.

YOU WORK WITH THEM, YOU WALK ALONG BESIDE THEM, BUT YOU DO NOT LET A UNION RUN A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THEM AND SAY, YOU CAN HAVE A PIECE OF THE PIE, BUT NOT ALL OF IT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MR. GLOVER, I HAVE READ SOME OF YOUR STUFF ON THIS NEXT QUESTION.

RIGHT.

UH, SO I PRETTY MUCH KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER IT, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME, AND YOU MAY BE ANSWERING THIS, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, SOME HERE CAN HEAR AS WELL.

OKAY.

UM, MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS YOUR STANCE ON THE DEPLOYMENT OF SWAT TEAMS AND THE EXECUTION OF NO-KNOCK WARRANTS, , UM, SCENARIO OF ABUSE? A NO-KNOCK WARRANT MEANS THAT YOU ACTUALLY POSE A KNOCKING AT, UH, ANNOUNCE YOURSELF.

WHAT HAS EVOLVED IS AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE HITTING THE DOOR, YOU'RE KNOCKING POLICE AND GOING IN.

SO IT'S A SUBTERFUGE OF VIOLATING THAT FOURTH AMENDMENT.

AND I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WHEN I'M BIG ON THIS, AND BOTH THE DEPARTMENTS WHERE I CAME FROM, I TELL PEOPLE VIOLATING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, THE RIGHT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, SELF, UH, I'M SORRY, THE RIGHT AGAINST, UH, SEARCH AND SEIZURE.

YOU ARE VIOLATING THE LAW.

THAT'S THE CRIMINAL OFFENSE.

I KNOW OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND FEDERAL CHARGES FILE ON FOR THEM.

SO MY THING IS, I DON'T, I DO NOT, AND I'M HOPING, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IN NO-KNOCK WARRANTS, I BELIEVE IN KNOCKING, ANNOUNCING YOURSELF AND THEN GOING IN, AND PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THE DRUGS ARE GONNA GET DESTROYED.

UH, THE PRICE THAT WE PAY FOR, THE MISTAKES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON A LOT OF THE NO-KNOCK WARRANTS AROUND THIS COUNTRY HAVE ENDED IN, UH, WHAT I WOULD CALL UNNECESSARY HARM TO SOME PEOPLE.

UH, YOU CAN ENFORCE THE LAW WITHOUT BREAKING THE LAW.

THAT'S SOMETHING I SAID IN DALLAS FOR 40 YEARS.

AND THAT WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO BREAK THE LAW IN ORDER TO ENFORCE IT? AND IF YOU GOT A NO-NO WARRANT, THEN DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT, SO I'M NOT READY.

, UH, I GOT ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

MY LAST QUESTION IS, UM, GIVEN YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH, UH, WITH OTHER AGENCIES, UM, WHAT DIFFICULTIES DO YOU ANTICIPATE? UM, OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT OR ARE THERE ANY THINGS YOU EXPECT TO HAVE TO OVERCOME WHEN YOU COME TO BATON ROUGE? THE FIRST ONE MIGHT BE CALLING OUR POLICE OFFICERS POLICE, BUT AFTER THAT, WHAT WILL BE YOUR NEXT I'LL MA'AM? I'M SO SORRY.

HONESTLY, I'M TEASING FROM THE BOTTOM.

I'M TEASING KNOW.

I, WHEN I WENT TO LAFAYETTE, I WAS SAY DALLAS A LOT BECAUSE I SPENT 40 YEARS THERE.

AND I'M SORRY, THIS IS A BATON ROUGE PD.

I KNOW IT, UH, I CAME HERE AS A HIGH SCHOOLER AND TOOK AN EXAM HERE.

SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY.

FORGIVE ME, IT'S ALL RIGHT, BUT WHAT, BUT WHAT? NO, BUT REALLY, WHAT, WHAT, UM, UH, NUMBER

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ONE, I, I'M FAMILIAR QUESTION.

I, I RESPOND.

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE, A SMALL SEGMENT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T LIKE OUTSIDERS.

I TELL PEOPLE IN MY INSTANCE, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO.

AND THEY SAY, WHY? I SAY, BECAUSE I HAVE NO FRIENDS HERE THAT I GOT A REWARD AND I DARN SHOW DON'T HAVE ANY ENEMIES THAT I GOTTA PUNISH.

EVERYBODY STARTS OFF WITH A CLEAN SLATE.

EVERYBODY STARTS OUT AT ZERO OR ONE, AND WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS. YOU HAVE A SMALL SEGMENT THAT WANTS TO SAY, WELL, HE'S FROM THE OUTSIDE.

YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER GROUP THAT WILL SAY IT.

AND I I, IT'LL BE HARD FOR THEM TO SAY IT ABOUT ME.

WELL, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING.

HE AIN'T, I'VE BEEN AROUND 40 YEARS AND YOU CAN GOOGLE ME AND YOU'LL SEE THE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE.

AND YOU HAVE MY RESUME, MY CURRICULUM, VIDA, WHICH I HESITATE TO SAY THIS, IT'S 16 PAGES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER GOT ALL 16 PAGES OF IT, BUT I'VE BEEN EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA TRAINING PEOPLE ON LEADERSHIP AND POLICING.

I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO OUTSIDER SAYING THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, Y'ALL REMEMBER THIS AND YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE.

I STATE POLICE CULTURE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON IN CHARGE WILL EAT REFORMS ALIVE.

THEY'LL STEP ON IT, CHEW IT UP, SPIT IT OUT, AND KEEP MOVING.

AND 10 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'LL STILL BE HAVING MEETINGS WHERE YOU ASKING PEOPLE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? SO BEING AN OUTSIDER, SOME PEOPLE WANT TO USE THAT SAYING THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I'M WELL READ IN JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THERE IS IN POLICING.

SO I BELIEVE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SUPPORT OF PEOPLE LIKE THE ONES SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE, THE COMMUNITY WITH THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT AND THE ELECTED COUNCILS, THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL, IF I HAVE SUPPORT, I GET THE JOB DONE.

I HAVE THE COURAGE.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

AND I'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT.

TERRIFIC.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, THAT IS THE EXTENT OF OUR QUESTIONS.

UH, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES OF A CLOSING STATEMENT.

OKAY.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.

UH, THE QUESTIONS WERE VERY PROBING.

UH, I NOTICED EACH PERSON WAS SAYING IT FROM GROUP, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A HANDOUT I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET TO LET ME KNOW, BUT I DIDN'T GET IT.

I ANSWERED QUESTIONS FROM MY HEART.

I DON'T USE NOTES.

I TURN MY PHONE UPSIDE DOWN.

UH, IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY PART OF POLICING AREAS I'VE WORKED IN IT PATROL.

I'VE WORKED IN CID OR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

I'VE BEEN IN CHARGE OF BURGLARY AND THEFT DETECTIVES.

I'VE BEEN IN CHARGE OF CRIME RESPONSE TEAMS. BUT THE POLICING IS SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY CAN PICK UP.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THOMAS GLOVER, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT TWO THINGS, THOSE TWO WORDS I TOLD YOU, WHICH WOULD MAKE ME A GREAT CHIEF OF THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE RED STICK, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, YES.

DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE ANY PLACE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IF YOU DON'T TREAT THE COMMUNITY WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

AND QUICK EXAMPLE, FIVE HOURS AND INTO MY JOB AS LAFAYETTE CHIEF, I'M DRIVING DOWN A STREET AND IT'S BLOCKED OFF.

AND I GET PERMISSION FROM A GROUP OFFICER TO PROCEED THROUGH.

AND I'M DRIVING THROUGH AND I SEE SOMEBODY RUNNING TOWARD ME YELLING AND SCREAMING, AND THEY BANGED ON THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE I WAS DRIVING, WHICH WAS YADA Y YO.

AND THEY GET UP AND I LET THE WINDOW DOWN AND HE LOOKS AT MY CAR AND HE SEES THOSE STARS.

AND HE SAY, DAMN, CHIEF, JUST LIKE THAT.

AND I SAID, OKAY.

I GOT PERMISSION.

EXCUSE MY FRENCH, I GOT PERMISSION TO PARK.

HE SAID, OKAY.

THE NEXT DAY, PEOPLE ASKING ME WHAT I WAS GONNA DO TO HIM, I SAID, NOTHING.

THEY SAID, WHY? I SAID, I WANT TO TALK TO HIM AND TELL HIM TO TREAT EVERYBODY ON THE STREET THE SAME WAY HE TREATED ME AFTER HE SAW MY COLLAR.

AND SO MY THING IS, I'M GONNA BE THE PERSON WHO LISTENS.

I PARTICIPATE.

I BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I HAD COMMERCIALS A COUPLE OF THEM WHERE I WENT INTO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND PLAYED BASKETBALL TO KIDS.

I WALKED TO A CENTER WITH HO IN THE INNER CITY BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT AND HAD THE GUY TO STOP IT AT HALFTIME, I'M IN FULL UNIFORM AND I TALKED TO THE GUYS.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THE TYPE OF PERSON I AM THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

CAN BE GREAT.

TERRIFIC.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I ENJOYED IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

EUGENE, THERE GOES AN ALPHA MAN, .

OH MY GOD.

YOU SEE WHAT COLORS YOU WEARING THOUGH, MR. PRESIDENT .

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ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, MR. CLE MCCARLEY.

MCCARLEY, JENNIFER, NEED US TO SAY THE CATEGORIES.

YEAH, WE REALLY, YES.

UH, WE NEED Y'ALL TO SAY THE CATEGORIES.

I THINK THAT'S MORE FOR US.

WE'RE REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, TRYING TO LIMIT IT TO TWO QUESTIONS FROM EACH CATEGORY.

SO IF YOU'RE WATCHING THE CATEGORIES AND SOMEONE'S ALREADY TAKEN TWO, PICK ANOTHER QUESTION.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MCCARLEY.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

UM, I WANT TO EXPLAIN OUR PROCEDURE HERE.

UH, WE WILL, UH, HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOU TO GIVE US AN OPENING STATEMENT.

THEN WE'RE GONNA GO, UH, EACH, UH, PANEL MEMBER WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.

UM, WE'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I DON'T REALLY LIKE TO INTERRUPT, SO I'M GONNA KIND OF TAP, TAP AT MY, IF YOU SEE ME TAPPING, THAT'S KINDA YOUR SIGNAL TO WRAP IT UP.

UM, AND THEN AFTER WE'VE ALL ASKED A QUESTION, WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND FOLKS CAN ASK A SECOND QUESTION IF THEY HAVE A SECOND QUESTION.

THEN AT THE END, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR A, A FINAL STATEMENT.

OKAY? OKAY.

YES, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, YOU CAN START WITH YOUR OPENING STATEMENT.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL MCCARLEY.

I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I'VE BEEN EMPLOYED WITH BATON ROUGE POLICE FOR RIGHT ABOUT 28 YEARS.

I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN IN THE CENTER PART OF THE STATE CALLED BALL LOUISIANA ON A NINE ACRE FARM.

I'M TOLD MY REPUTATION PRECEDES ME AROUND THE DEPARTMENT AS BEING HONEST, THOUGHTFUL, FAIR, AND ABOVE ALL, A MAN OF INTEGRITY.

I'M A PEOPLE PERSON AND WANT TO SEE EVERYONE SUCCEED IN THEIR ENDEAVORS.

I MOVED TO BATON ROUGE JUST FOUR DAYS PRIOR TO BEGINNING MY CAREER WITH BRPD.

UH, STARTED ON JANUARY 2ND, 1996.

STARTED IN COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION, EVENTUALLY WORKING MY WAY UP TO A COMMUNICATION OFFICER ONE, UH, CHIEF SUPERVISOR.

AFTER 12 YEARS IN THAT DIVISION, I REALIZED I WAS APPROACHING A DEAD END AND, UH, WITH NO MORE PROMOTIONS.

SO I DECIDED TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER.

ALTHOUGH I HAD WORKED HERE FOR 12 YEARS, I WAS TREATED JUST AS ANY OTHER NEW RECRUIT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS.

I GRADUATED THE ACADEMY, BECAME AND BEGAN THE JOURNEY OF UNIFORM PATROL.

BECAUSE OF MY SENIORITY AND COMMUNICATIONS, I WAS PROMOTED TO SERGEANT JUST AFTER FIVE YEARS IN UNIFORM PATROL ON THE STREET.

SO THAT MEANT, DURING THOSE FIVE YEARS, I KNEW I HAD TO LEARN WHAT MOST OFFICERS HAVE 16 TO 17 YEARS TO LEARN.

AND THAT WAS HOW TO BE AN EFFECTIVE SUPERVISOR TO UNIFORM PATROL OFFICERS.

I STILL CREDIT MY FIRST LIEUTENANT FOR FORCE FEEDING ME THE INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE.

LATER, I WAS PROMOTED TO LIEUTENANT WHERE I REMAINED IN UNIFORM PATROL UNTIL AUGUST OF 2021.

WHEN I RECEIVED A CALL FROM CHIEF PAUL REQUESTED TO MEET WITH ME.

THAT WAS WHEN HE OFFERED ME MY CURRENT POSITION AS THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMMANDER.

NEVER WORKED TODAY IN, IN A DAY IN MY LIFE IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

SO IT WAS A, IT WAS A LONG CONVERSATION.

UH, I ACCEPTED THE POSITION, AND IT HAS BEEN A WHIRLWIND TWO YEARS DURING MY TENURE, NO MATTER MY POSITION OR RANK, I'VE CONTINUED MY DUTIES AS A RANGE SAFETY OFFICER AND AS ASSIST WITH A REMEDIAL FIREARMS TRAINING PROGRAM THAT'S HELD ONCE, ONE FRIDAY A MONTH.

UH, THIS GIVES ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ONE-ON-ONE WITH OFFICERS THAT MAY BE STRUGGLING, UH, WITH FIREARMS PROFICIENCY.

AND AS A RANGE SAFETY OFFICER.

I FEEL IT KEEPS ME CONNECTED TO THE LOWER RANKING OFFICERS.

THAT'S A LITTLE ABOUT ME.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL START WITH QUESTIONS FOR MR. GREEN.

THANK YOU, CAPTAIN.

GOOD EVENING.

YES, SIR.

COULD YOU TELL US WHAT STEPS YOU WOULD TAKE TO REORGANIZE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IF YOU WERE CHIEF? AND SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION, DO YOU THINK INTERNAL AFFAIRS NEEDS MORE RESOURCES OR NEEDS TO BE REORGANIZED AS WELL? KIND OF A TWO PART QUESTION.

UM, I FEEL LIKE THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ASSESSMENT OF OUR, OUR OVERALL MANPOWER, WHETHER IT'S A SPECIALIZED DIVISION OR UNIFORM PATROL.

UH, DO WE HAVE THE, THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE IN THE POSITIONS TO BE IN CHARGE OF THESE DIVISIONS? RIGHT? UH, INTERNAL AFFAIRS BEING ONE OF 'EM.

UH, INTERNAL AFFAIRS FROM EXPERIENCE COULD USE, UM, ONE OR TWO MORE INVESTIGATORS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAY GO A COUPLE MONTHS WITH JUST ONE OR TWO COMPLAINTS, BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN COMPLAINTS START ROLLING IN, THEY'RE ROLLING IN.

AND I MEAN, YOU GO IN EVERY DAY, IT'S JUST STACKING UP.

UM, ALL OF OUR DIVISIONS, A LOT OF OUR DETECTIVE DIVISIONS ARE THE SAME WAY.

UM, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEIR CASELOAD IS JUST, THEY, THEY CLEAR ONE OR TWO CASES, BUT THEY HAVE SIX MORE THAT PILED UP BEHIND IT.

SO, UM, JUST AS A DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE, WE, WE NEED MORE RESOURCES AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES AND, UM, TO SAY, TO RESTRUCTURE THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT, NO, WE HAVE, WE WHY, WHY, WHY TRY

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TO FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN? MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF REARRANGING.

THANK YOU, CAPTAIN.

THAT WAS UNDER THE STANDARDS AND STRATEGIES CATEGORY FOR MY CO COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

GOOD EVENING, CAPTAIN MCCARLEY.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, SO SEEING AS YOUR ROLE IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS RELATIVELY RECENT COMPARED TO, SAY THAT YOUR LENGTH OF TIME WITH UNIFORM PATROL, BUT ALSO BECAUSE YOU SPENT SO MUCH TIME IN UNIFORM PATROL COMPARED TO SOME OTHER MORE SPECIALIZED DIVISIONS THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS QUESTION'S FROM CATEGORY 11 AND IT'S POSSIBLE QUESTIONS FOR CURRENT BRPD CANDIDATES.

AND IT'S HOW HAVE YOU OR YOUR DIVISION, WHETHER THAT WAS UP OR IA, RESPONDED TO THE DIFFICULTIES AND SCANDALS RELATED TO OTHER DIVISIONS IN RECENT YEARS.

SO, STREET CRIMES, UNIT NARCOTICS, EVEN THE CHANGES TO CANINE POLICY.

DID YOU ADOPT, SUGGEST, OR IMPLEMENT ANY NEW POLICIES? AND WHAT WAS THEIR RESULT? SO I WAS STILL IN UNIFORM PATROL WHEN THE, UM, LET'S SAY THE NARCOTICS AUDIT OCCURRED.

AND, UM, I, I CAME IN ON THE VERY TAIL END OF THAT WHEN I MOVED TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

SO AS FAR AS ANY POLICY CHANGES, I WAS, I'VE NOT FIRSTHAND.

UM, I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S ONE OR TWO POLICIES THAT ARE BEING, UM, KICKED AROUND RIGHT NOW BY MYSELF AND, UH, THE COMMANDER OF HEALTH AND SAFETY.

UM, AS FAR AS THEIR, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE CHANGED.

THEY JUST NEED TO BE TWEAKED.

A LOT OF OUR POLICIES ARE OLD, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T REVIEW THEM UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT.

WE NEED TO, IT, IT, THEY NEED TO BE CONSTANTLY REVIEWED BECAUSE THE TIMES ARE EVER CHANGING.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, COMMUNITY POLICE PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU SEE, UM, THEIR PRESENCE AT COMMUNITY EVENTS, YOU SEE THEM AT FAITH-BASED, UH, ORGANIZATIONS.

YOU SEE THEM AT COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS.

YOU JUST SEE THEM WHERE THE COMMUNITY RESIDE.

MY QUESTION IS COMING FROM STANDARDS AND STRATEGY, AND IT IS, WHAT DO YOU FEEL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PILLAR OF THE 21ST CENTURY POLICING FOR OUR AGENCY AND WHY? SO IN MY OPINION, ALL THE SIX PILLARS ARE TRULY IMPORTANT, BUT IF I HAD TO PICK ONE, I WOULD SAY COMMUNITY POLICING AND CRIME REDUCTION WOULD BE IT.

UH, EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE CRIME REDUCED IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

UH, A COMMON COMMENT HEARD WHEN INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS IN UNIFORM PATROL, WAS, I NEVER SEE POLICE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS.

SO PERSONALLY, AS AN OFFICER, WHEN I WAS IN UNIFORM PATROL, I, I, YOU, I'M ASSIGNED TO A CERTAIN AREA TO PATROL, I MADE SURE THAT I WENT THROUGH EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.

MIGHT NOT MAKE IT ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT THEY SAW A POLICE CAR.

AND I, IF I SAW PEOPLE STANDING OUTSIDE, WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE WATERING THEIR GARDEN.

I'M STOP, I'M STOPPING.

I'M GETTING OUT THE CAR AND TALKING TO 'EM.

I'M NOT JUST PASSING BY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WINDOWS UP AND JUST PAINT 'EM.

NO MIND.

UH, IT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T NEED TO SHOW UP IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

JUST WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS OR JUST WHEN THERE'S AN EVENT THAT YOU KNOW, OH, WE CAN GO SAY, OH, WELL, THE POLICE WERE HERE.

NO, WE NEED TO BE THERE ALL THE TIME.

EVEN AT, EVEN AT NIGHT WHEN PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CAMERAS NOW.

THEY KNOW IF WE PASS BY THEIR HOUSE AT NIGHT, 'CAUSE THEIR CAMERAS PICK US UP IF WE'RE ON THE STREET, AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GET BACK TO THAT.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, MR. MCCARLEY, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR TOP FIVE PRIORITIES AND YOUR PROCESS FOR ACCOMPLISHING THEM IN THE FIRST 100 DAYS? ALL RIGHT, SO THE FIRST 100 DAYS, UM, I'LL SUM IT UP AS BEING BUSY AND WITH SOME HOUSEKEEPING.

OKAY.

UH, OUR HOUSE NEEDS TO BE IN ORDER BEFORE WE CAN EXPECT ORDER ON THE STREETS.

OKAY.

UM, THERE WE NEED TO DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING.

I'M NOT SAYING HOUSE CLEANING, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING.

UM, TOP FIVE, IT'S GONNA BE, UM, I JUST JOTTED SOME THINGS DOWN OFF OF MEMORY.

UM, ASSESSMENT OF THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM.

OKAY.

UH, ASSESSMENT OF THE TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT USED IN DAILY OPERATIONS BY UNIFORM PATROL.

UM, THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE UNIFORMS, CARS, COMPUTERS, CAMERAS, UM, ARE THEY FUNCTIONING? AND IF NOT, WHY NOT? OKAY.

AN OFFICER CAN'T DO THEIR JOB IF THEIR CAR'S SITTING