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GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL ZONING MEETING ON THIS WEDNESDAY, MARCH 20TH, 2024.
UH, THE WAY THE MEETING WILL WORK, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THE ITEMS. UH, WELL FIRST, LEMME CALL THE MEETING ORDER.
JUSTIN, DO WE HAVE A QUO? WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AND THE WAY THE MEETING'S GONNA WORK, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE ITEMS. UH, THOSE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF AN ITEM WILL COME UP AND HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK.
AND THEN THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THE ITEM WILL COME UP AND HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
AND THEN AFTER THE OPPOSITION SPEAKS, UH, THE DEVELOPER OR WHOEVER THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN SELECTED, UH, TO SPEAK ON THE ACTUAL ITEM, CAN COME BACK AND REBUT ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, UH, BY THE OPPOSITION.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ONLY HAVE SIX ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET EVERYBODY OUTTA HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
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MEMBERS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE CASE 8 2 4, ITEM 6 1 0 2 FRAN STREET TO REZONED PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BARN, LOWES TO COMMERCIAL GAMBLE.LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FRAN STREET, WEST OF ST.
PHILLIP STREET COUNCIL, DISTRICT 10 COMMISSION ACTION, NINE ZERO.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX? COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN? YES, SIR.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN COLEMAN.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MO.
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ITEM FIVE, CASE SEVEN DASH 2 4 5 4 5 SOUTH FOSTER DRIVE, THE REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT COMMERCIAL TRANSITION AT COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL LOCATED ON EAST SIDE OF SOUTH FOSTER DRIVE, GOVERNMENT STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN.IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? MOTION TO APPROVE BY THE CHAIR IS THE SECOND.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MO SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORGAN, ANY OBJECTIONS ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED.
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ITEM THREE, RV 1 24.ACRES, REVOCATION, UH, NO, NO HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUIRED YOU C3 63.
PASTOR HUNTER, YOU DID, UH, WRITE THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE ITEM THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FOR ITEM THREE? WE GO NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOOCH, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOROCCO.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM THREE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WE GO TO ITEM 2, 7, 6, 0 5
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AND 7 6, 0 7.TOM DRIVE THE REZONED PROPERTY FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL M TWO TO LIGHT COMMERCIALS LC ONE LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOM DRIVE EAST OF WOODDALE COURT.
MOTION TO APPROVE NINE ZERO WAS THE COMMISSION ACTION.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM? NO.
SO MOVING, SECONDED BY THE CHAIR.
ANY OBJECTIONS? ITEM TWO HAS BEEN APPROVED.
WE NOW GO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TO ITEM FOUR, TA ONE DASH 24 FORENSIC FACILITY UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT TO REVISE, WANNA DO FUTURE VR? LET'S KNOCK IT OUT.
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UH, ITEM ONE, PA, WHICH REQUIRES A VOTES, PA ONE SIX DASH 23 FUTURE BUREAU UPDATE AMENDING THE FUTURE VR, THE 20 YEAR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE AND PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE COMMISSION.IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM? I DO.
THANK YOU MAYOR PROTE AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
UH, HERE TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF FUTURE BR FUTURE BR IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT GUIDES GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT ACROSS EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
THIS IS A FIVE YEAR UPDATE, THE SECOND FIVE YEAR UPDATE TO FUTURE BR AND IS SUBJECT TO OVER A YEAR AND A HALF OF STAFF WORK AND DEPARTMENT RESOURCES WITH NINE COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSES, SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS TO VARIOUS GROUPS.
OVER 125 PEOPLE ATTENDED THESE MEETINGS ACROSS THE PARISH.
410 SURVEY RESULTS WERE SUBMITTED, BRINGING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH TO OVER 500.
AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED RESULTED IN CHANGES TO THE PLAN, OTHER CHANGES INVOLVED, ELIMINATING, DUPLICATE AND OUT OF DATE MATERIAL.
IN ADDITION, WE EXAMINED EVERY PARCEL IN THE PARISH TO ENSURE THAT APPROPRIATE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS WERE PLACED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JEFFREY LUENBERGER, OUR MANAGER OF LONG RANGE.
HIM AND HIS STAFF NEED TO BE, UH, CONGRATULATED FOR THE EFFORT AND THE HARD WORK THEY PUT INTO THIS PLAN.
AND THE WORK ITSELF ALSO IS SERVICES CREATED NUMEROUS MAPS AND UPDATED GIS DATA THROUGHOUT THIS PLANNING PROCESS.
ALSO, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF OUR 34 LEAD AGENCIES PROVIDING UPDATES TO THE PLAN AND THE ACTION ITEMS AS PART OF THIS FIVE YEAR UPDATE.
AT A PREVIOUS, THE RECENT PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM, BUT THE COUNCIL TOOK NO ACTION BECAUSE THE CONCERNS AT THE TIME RAISED ON POTENTIAL RAIL STATIONS BEING CONSIDERED.
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RAIL WAS SHOWN AS PART OF THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION MAP CONTAINED AS PART OF FUTURE B DOCUMENT.AS A RESULT, OUR OFFICE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNCIL, BOTH INDI INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY WITH A SUMMARY AND BACKGROUND OF THE HISTORY OF REGIONAL RAIL REFERENCES AND FUTURE BR OFFERING TO MEET AND DISCUSS POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS.
I'VE MET WITH MEMBERS, MANY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SINCE THEN TO DISCUSS OPTIONS AND OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION MAP CONTAINED AS PART OF FUTURE B.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL INPUT AND DIRECTION TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL ACCESS TO FUTURE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND HOW IT WORKS TO CONNECT TO THE LOCAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS AND SUPPORT FROM THE BATON ROUGE NORTH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND ALSO FROM THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION FEDERATION PACIFIC ASSOCIATIONS.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS ITEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER, ANYONE HERE WAS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN? YES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH TWO AMENDMENTS.
UM, THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS TO AMEND THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION MAP ON PAGE 10 IN THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT TO EXTEND THE PROPOSED REGIONAL RAILS TO NORTH BATON ROUGE WITH BUS RAPID TRANSIT CONNECTION TO THE BATON ROUGE METRO AIRPORT.
THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS TO AMEND THE REGIONAL RAIL WRITEUP ON PAGE 45 TO INCLUDE AND IN NORTH, IN NORTH BATON ROUGE.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE MOTION? ITEM ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED.
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WE NOW GO TO ITEM FOUR.AND ALL, LIKE HE SAID, WITH ALL THE CITY PARISH EMPLOYEES AND THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND EVERYONE WORKING TOGETHER, I THINK WE GOT A GREAT FUTURE.
I FOUR TA ONE DASH 24 FORENSIC FACILITY UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT TO REVISE CHAPTER NINE.
USE REGULATIONS IN CHAPTER 19, DEFINITIONS TO CONDITIONALLY ALLOW TO DEFINE SECURE MEDICAL FACILITIES WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, RYAN, YOU WANNA SPEAK BEFORE OUR GUEST? SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS HAVE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECTOR COME UP AND GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, RYAN.
AND THEN, UH, WE'LL TAKE SOME COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT.
THEN WE'LL TAKE COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED.
AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND LET UH, ANYONE WHO IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM HAVE A FINAL THREE MINUTES.
NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS ITEM IS COMING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO IT'LL JUST BE THREE MINUTES FOR THOSE IN SUPPORT IN THREE MINUTES FOR THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
THIS ITEM IS A TEXT AMENDMENT DEALING WITH FORENSIC FACILITIES.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD, AS, AS WRITTEN, WOULD REVISE CHAPTER NINE, USE REGULATIONS AND ALSO CHAPTER 19 DEFINITIONS TO ESTABLISH RE REGULATIONS FOR FORENSIC FACILITIES.
LOW BACKGROUND AND HISTORY, THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL REQUESTED A STUDY TO AMEND THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PUT IN PLACE DISTANCE LIMITATIONS FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALS ON FEBRUARY 22ND, 2023.
THE STUDY WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL IN AUGUST, SAME YEAR, PROVIDING RESEARCH, ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND AND FOUR OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION WERE PRESENTED IN THAT STUDY.
LATER THAT MONTH ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL REQUESTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DRAFTING OPTIONS THAT WERE CONSISTENT WITH OPTION FOUR.
IN THAT STUDY, DRAFTING PROPOSED POLICY REGULATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION RELATED TO FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALS TO CREATE A NEW USE WITH A CORRECTIONAL FORENSIC COMPONENT ALLOWED IN PREDETERMINED ZONING DISTRICTS, WHILE ALSO ESTABLISHING DISTANCE LIMITATIONS AND PROVIDING VISUAL SCREENING.
THIS AMENDMENT AS WRITTEN AND PRESENTED, DEFINES FORENSIC FACILITY IN CHAPTER 19 CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE DEFINITION.
IT ALSO DEFINES HOSPITALS AND ADDS CLARIFICATION ON OTHER MEDICAL LAND USE TYPES.
IT INTRODUCES A NEW FORENSIC FACILITY USE FOR DISCRETIONARY APPROVAL, WHICH WOULD BE PART OF A MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL ONE ZONING AND ALSO HEAVY COMMERCIAL TWO ZONING DISTRICTS.
IT ALSO GOES ON TO ESTABLISH DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS OF A THOUSAND FEET FOR FORENSIC FACILITY USES PRESCRIBING, SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS, SCHOOLS, AND PARKS IN ADDITION TO REQUIRING VISUAL SCREENING AND BUFFERS FROM THE STREET AND ABUTTING PROPERTIES.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS LATER ON.
WE'LL TAKE THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM TO COME FIRST.
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HAS THREE MINUTES.I DON'T HAVE, UH, ANYONE WHO'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, BUT IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM AS IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, UH, PLEASE COME UP.
ANYONE WHO THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY WHOLE DISTRICT FIVE.
YOU IN SUPPORT OF IT? AND THAT'S WRITTEN? YES.
I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTAND.
SO WHAT HE'S ASKING IS ANYBODY IN DISTRICT FIVE WHO IS IN FAVOR OF THE THOUSAND FEET DISTANCE LIMITATION, THE SCREENS, UH, THERE AND THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS THE, UH,
PLEASE COME TO THE, TO THE MIC AND SPEAK.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
CHERISE SMITH, 6 0 2 SANDRA DRIVE, BAKER, 7 0 7 1 4.
I'M SORRY, I, I WASN'T UNDERSTANDING OF, LEMME SAY IT THIS WAY, THE PROCEDURE.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M UP HERE AT THE RIGHT POINT IN TIME.
IF YOU ARE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO DOESN'T WANT A FACILITY LIKE THIS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, THEN YOU COME UP AND SPEED.
I'M IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
CHERISE SMITH, 6 0 2 STANDARD DRIVE, BAKER, LOUISIANA.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING, UH, THE FOREST HEIGHTS PTO.
I HAVE TWO CHILDREN THAT ARE THERE, ALSO OTHER PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, UH, HERE.
SO I WANNA JUST SAY FIRST, THANKS.
UM, COUNCILMAN HURST FOR PUTTING THIS FORWARD.
WE HAD THE MEETING A COUPLE WEEK MONTHS AGO, UH, OPPOSING IT.
I STRONGLY ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO APPROVE THIS BECAUSE OUR CHILDREN DESERVE AND OUR CHILDREN, OUR, UH, TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES ARE GOING TO, IT'S GONNA BRING ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS AND EXPOSURE TO, UH, POTENTIAL THREATS THAT THEY'RE NOT PREPARED TO HANDLE.
I THINK THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS SHOULD BE TAKEN TO LIVINGSTON PARISH WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF, UH, FARM LAND AND ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO ESCAPE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, CHASE THEM OUT THERE.
NOT IN NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT NEAR BUSINESSES, NOT IN COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING AND THRIVING AND TRYING TO SURVIVE, PARTICULARLY CHILDREN.
SO I STRONGLY, UH, SUPPORT IT AND HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL APPROVE THIS MOTION.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? COME ON DOWN.
PASTOR HUNTER, YOU COME RIGHT AFTER PASTOR HUNTER.
SIR, FIRST LET ME JUST SAY THAT I AM, UH, GREET EACH ONE OF YOU THIS EVENING AND WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING AGAINST THIS PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
AND I'M ACTUALLY READING, UM, FROM 9.4 0.5, UH, OF THIS SECTION, UH, THAT SPEAKS TO THE ZONING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS THAT SECTION, UH, A UM, UH, SUBSECTION A OF THAT PARTICULAR OR ORDINANCE, UH, IT SAYS THAT SHALL NOT BE LOCATED IN ANY RECOGNIZED SUBDIVISION.
AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, AMENDMENT THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT IS SPEAKING OF HEAVILY COMMERCIAL AREAS.
AND SO WHAT WE ARE REALLY, UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THINGS AND THE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THE, UH, GLEN OAKS COMMUNITY, UH, WE ARE SEEKING TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT, UH, NO FORENSIC, UH, FACILITY WOULD BE LOCATED NEAR, UM, FERRIS HEIGHT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS ONE OF THE, UH, HIGHEST PERFORMING PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN THE NORTH BATON ROUGE AREA.
IT'S IN THE TOP, UH, 10 IN THE STATE IN MATH AND ENGLISH AND LANGUAGE ARTS.
AND SO WE'RE LITERALLY SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ARE SEEKING TO MAINTAIN AROUND THAT SCHOOL, UH, IS, IS CONSISTENT WITH WHERE THEY ARE NOW.
AND THAT THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, FROM, UH, THOSE, UH, PARENTS AS WELL AS STUDENTS WHO ARE ATTENDING THAT SCHOOL, UH, CAN BE MAINTAINED AND THEIR PROGRESS, UH, IN DEVELOPING EDUCATIONAL EXCELLENCE CAN BE SECURE.
I WOULD SAY THIS AND SIT DOWN, BUT WHENEVER, UH, CHILDREN FEEL THAT THEY EITHER FROM DIRECT OR INDIRECT, UH, INFLUENCES SUCH AS A FACILITY OF THIS NATURE, UH, THEY ARE, ARE FILLED WITH ANXIETY.
AND ANXIETY, ACCORDING TO JEFF NAGEL CAUSES THE BRAIN TO PRO PRODUCE A HORMONE CALLED CORTISOL.
CORTISOL IS A HORMONE THAT INTERFERES WITH THE CHILD'S ABILITY TO
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BE ATTENTIVE.SO CHILDREN ARE BEING IDENTIFIED AS ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDERS WHEN ACTUALLY IT IS JUST BECAUSE OF HEIGHTENED ANXIETY THAT THEY CAN BE EXPOSED TO WHEN THEY HAVE ANXIETY WITH FACILITIES THAT MAY NOT, UH, BE CONDUCIVE FOR OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OR FOR THAT MATTER BEING ADJACENT TO SCHOOLS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WHAT I CAME HERE TO, TO SAY TONIGHT.
I I ALSO BELIEVE THAT A THOUSAND, UM, FEET LIMIT, UH, IS CONSISTENT AND WOULD HELP WITHIN ANY PARISH, I MEAN ANYWHERE IN THE PARISH.
BUT I REALLY WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS HAD TO DO WITH FAR HEIGHT ELEMENTARY AND, AND, AND, AND NORTH BATON ROUGE.
WE, WE ARE, WE ARE FOCUSING, UH, 26 PASTORS WITH VFI TO DEAL WITH EDUCATION, TO DEAL WITH JOBS.
WE ARE SENDING COUNSELORS INTO THE HOMES AND WE LITERALLY BELIEVE THAT WE WANNA BE CONSISTENT ABOUT WHAT'S COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THIS BODY FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
AND IF WE ARE NOT SPEAKING OF, UH, LOCATING A FORENSIC FACILITY WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, I BELIEVE THAT FAR SIGHT WOULD BE OKAY.
GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT, FOR GIVING ME A PRIVILEGE AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS BODY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT.
YOU WENT OVER THREE MINUTES, PASTOR, BUT YOU'RE A PREACHER.
SO I WAS TOLD NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU PASTOR WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PREACHING.
ANYBODY ELSE? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD RIGHT AFTER THE, THE LOVELY LADY.
UH, I LIVE IN FOREST HEIGHTS AND I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND MY COMMUNITY AND I PARISH.
WE DOES NOT WANT ANY FORENSIC UTILITY OR WHATEVER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ANY PRISONERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THIS IS NOT JUST FOR ME, THIS IS FROM ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF FACILITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE ALL OUR LIVES AND WE HAVE NO PLAN TO MOVE.
WE COULDN'T EVEN IF WE WANTED TO, BUT WE DOES NOT WANT ANY FACILITY OF THAT NATURE IN OUR COMMUNITY OR NEAR OUR SCHOOLS.
AND, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU ALL DID NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
WE, I'M 82 YEARS OLD, I DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO.
I WANNA LIE DOWN AT NIGHT AND SLEEP AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET UP REFRESH IN THE MORNING.
SO I'M ASKING Y'ALL NOT TO LET ANYTHING LIKE THAT COME TO OUR COMMUNITY OR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
CASE NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, ALONZO COLEMAN, 72 35 PERIMETER DRIVE, BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA.
AND I'M JUST HERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY OPINION ABOUT IT.
UH, I, WITH MS. DOROTHY HAS BEEN LIVING IN THE AREA QUITE A WHILE.
AND ON THE STREET THAT I LIVE ON, IT'S PROBABLY AT LEAST EIGHT OR 10 SENIOR CITIZENS THAT'S MUCH OLDER THAN I AM.
AND I'M THREE SCHOOLS AND 10 AND OVER.
SO MY THING IS, IS WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN NORTH BATON ROUGE WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING THERE TO MAINTAIN IT, YOU KNOW, WE BUILD BUILDINGS AND WE PUT UP A DETENTION CENTER FROM 60 OR 70 YEARS AGO, I GUESS.
AND PEOPLE JUST WALK IN AND OUT OF THERE NOW AND CREATE HABITS FOR THE CITY.
WE PUT THINGS OUT THERE THAT OTHER PEOPLES DON'T WANT AND THEN WE DON'T MAINTAIN THEM.
WE DON'T NEED TO PUT NOTHING ELSE IN IN THE AREA UNLESS THE PEOPLE'S STRONGLY SUPPORTED.
AND IT'S A POSITIVE INPUT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
LIKE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOOL OVER THERE.
IT'S ONE OF THE TOP RATED SCHOOLS.
THEY GOT THE GLEN OAKS HIGH SCHOOL OVER THERE IS A MAGNET PROGRAM AND THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER.
WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY BETTER AND WE JUST THINK THIS IS A DISTRACTION AND WE SHOULD NOT REVERSE ANYTHING TO BENEFIT SOMEONE THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA, NOT AFFECTED AND BY JUST WANT TO COME IN AND COLLECT DOLLARS, DOLLARS.
I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I HOPE Y'ALL GIVE A CONCEALED CONSIDERATION.
IF YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT IN YOUR BACKYARD, DON'T PUT IT IN OURS.
DOES ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM? COME ON DOWN.
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UM, MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER ARD, 60 40 LANIER DRIVE, PRESIDENT OF THE GLEN OAKS AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.UM, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN AGAINST THIS, UH, ANY FACILITY WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE BORDERS OF OUR, OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT I WANTED TO READ A LETTER THAT WAS FROM STATE SENATOR REGINA BARROW.
UM, THESE ARE HER WORDS AND SHE APOLOGIZES FOR NOT BEING BECAUSE OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
DEAR ESTEEM, MEMBERS OF THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL, I AM WRITING IN RESPONSE TO THE FEEDBACK I RECEIVED FROM MY CONSTITUENTS REGARDING THE PROPOSED FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL THAT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOLS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I AM UNABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON, BUT I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMENTS OF THE CITIZENS I REPRESENT WERE HEARD AND RECEIVED.
THE CITIZENS I REPRESENT DO NOT SUPPORT THIS MEASURE.
THERE IS MUCH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, BUT DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS, I'M UNABLE TO DO SO.
HOWEVER, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
PLEASE ACCEPT THIS LETTER AS MY POSITION AGAINST MY PROPOSED EXPANSION OR PERMITTING OF A FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL IN A SUBDIVISION OR SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION OF THIS MATTER.
REGINA BARROW, STATE SENATOR DISTRICT 15, PRESIDENT RA HER WORDS, UM, HER WORDS ARE AN ECHO OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT.
WE FEEL THAT THIS, UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS NECESSARY.
THIS IS SHOULD BE A COMMON SENSE THING.
YOU WOULD NOT WANT THAT IN DISTRICT IN ANY DISTRICT IN THE EASTBOUND RIVER PARISH IN ANY SUBDIVISION.
SO I'M NOT GONNA GO UP HERE AND REITERATE ANYTHING THAT IS ALREADY SAID.
ALL I CAN SAY IS PREY UPON YOUR GOOD SENSE.
YOUR COMMENT IS YOUR COMMON DECENCY.
AND PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS, UM, BANNING ANY FACILITIES LIKE THIS IN ANY RESIDENTIAL AREA NEAR SCHOOLS.
THOSE IN OPPOSITION THAT, WELL, EVERYBODY WHO WAS JUST SPEAKING WAS IN FAVOR OF ADAM.
MY NAME IS, UH, FRANKLIN BROWN, LIVE AT 69 34 MODESTA IN FOREST HEIGHT PARK.
I DON'T NEED TO COME UP HERE AND ECHO ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYBODY TO SAY.
I JUST WANT MY NAME TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT I'M AGAINST THIS FACILITY, YOU KNOW, BEING ZONE TO PUT OVER THERE.
HEY, THE FLOWER 1777 AMERICA STREET HERE IN BATON ROUGE.
I STAND IN, UM, AGREEMENT WITH THIS PROPOSAL AND THE WORDING OF AN INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL AREA IS WHERE THIS FACILITY SHOULD BE NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
I THINK A GREAT PLACE FOR THIS FACILITY WOULD BE WITHIN THE BATON ROUGE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU HAVE THAT WHOLE WOMEN'S HOSPITAL AND I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT USING ALL OF THAT FACILITY.
I MADE THIS SUGGESTION WHEN THE BRIDGE CENTER WAS BROUGHT UP.
I JUST THINK IT'D BE A GREAT PLACE TO PUT THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.
AND YOU'VE GOT POLICE OFFICERS RIGHT THERE TO ENSURE IF SOMETHING WOULD GO WRONG, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
BUT IT CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT BE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IN THIS CITY.
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT OF ITEM FOUR? ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT OF I ITEM FOUR.
ANYONE IN OPPOSITION OF ITEM FOUR? WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER DUNN JUNIOR.
THAT IS RYAN, CAN YOU COME UP PLEASE? I JUST WANNA BRING A POINT OF CLARITY 'CAUSE I, I'VE HEARD SEVERAL SPEAKERS COME UP IN REFERENCE TO CURRENT FACILITY THAT'S OPERATING, UH, IN THE GLEN OAKS AREA.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF, IF, IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS OFF, PLEASE UH, CLARIFY THAT, THAT THIS ITEM WILL NOT AFFECT THE FACILITY THAT'S CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE GLEN UX AREA.
IT WILL SO CERTAINLY COUNCILMAN ANY, ANY NEW, UH, NEW ORDINANCE OF CONSIDERATION WOULD NOT AFFECT ANY EXISTING BUSINESS THAT'S LEGALLY OPERATING.
UH, I, I'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE, UH, WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THAT WOULD BE, IF, IF THEY'RE LEGALLY LICENSED AND OPERATING NOW, THEY WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBERS? COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON.
IF YOU WOULD COME BACK REAL QUICK, THE LAST SPEAKER, UH, MADE AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT THIS TYPE OF FACILITY BEING AT THE BRIDGE CENTER OR BEING, UH, AT BRPD.
AS I UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE AND THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN WITH THAT, WITH BEING A THOUSAND FEET FROM A DWELLING, UM,
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THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ACTUALLY RULE OUT LOCATING ANY KIND OF FORENSIC FACILITY AT THOSE TWO LOCATIONS.AM I, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECT.
SO THE BRIDGE CENTER IS NOT A A A, A TRUE FORENSIC FACILITY? THE FORENSIC FACILITY, NO, BUT I'M SAYING IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A, A FORENSIC FACILITY THERE, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE WAY IT'S DEFINED.
A FORENSIC FACILITY IS A VERY SPECIFIC USE.
UM, BY DEFINITION AND THE WAY THIS IS DRAFTED, IT MATCHES, UH, THE STATE DEFINITION OF A FORENSIC FACILITY, WHICH REQUIRES A STATE LICENSE.
AND THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA, UH, THAT THAT'S PART OF THAT, WHICH THIS WOULD APPLY TO.
BUT BEING THAT IT'S WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLING IT AND THE BRPD HEADQUARTERS, THE A FORENSIC FACILITY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
IF IT DOES, IF THIS WERE OUR NEW FACILITY AND THIS, THESE REGULATIONS WERE APPROVED AS DRAFTED TONIGHT, THAT IF IT DIDN'T MEET THIS CRITERIA, THEN IT COULD NOT BE THE LOCATED THERE.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ROCKER.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, SO SOME OF THE HARD QUESTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ASKED ARE THE LEGAL ONES.
AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE SAID HERE.
BUT OFTENTIMES ON THIS BODY WITH THIS COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL BEFORE US, WE'LL HAVE A TON OF PEOPLE COME IN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL MAKE PROMISES TO THE FOLKS THAT SIT OUT THERE AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS FOR YOU.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS HAPPEN, OR WE'RE GONNA KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND IT HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT BEFORE I WAS A COUNCIL PERSON IN MAGWOOD, IT HAPPENED IN MR. GOD'S DISTRICT WITH AZTEC COVE, IS THESE PEOPLE SUE THE CITY AND THEN THEY GET RIGHTS AND PERMITS TO COME AND DO EXACTLY WHAT WE TOLD THEM.
AND, AND THEN IT TAKES YOUR HARD EARNED TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND WE SPEND OUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THESE FACILITIES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE ITEMS WRITTEN CORRECTLY, OR WE DIDN'T DENY THEM PROPERLY.
SO WHAT THE QUESTIONS I'M ABOUT TO ASK IS NO DISRESPECT TO ANY OF YOU, BUT I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE WRITTEN TO WHERE IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AND WHERE IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL LAW.
BECAUSE IF IT IS NOT, THEN I CAN ASSURE YOU, AS SOON AS THIS HAS PASSED, THERE WILL BE SOMEONE THAT DRIVES DIRECTLY INTO YOUR DISTRICT, PUTS UP A FACILITY JUST SO THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND SUE THE CITY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, CAN THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PLEASE COME UP? GOOD EVENING.
UM, SO CAN YOU TELL ME, UM, WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE THINGS TONIGHT, BUT I LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM THE ATTORNEYS.
UH, I THINK LEGAL OPINIONS SHOULD BE GIVEN BY PEOPLE THAT HAVE PASSED THE BAR WITH NO DISRESPECT FROM ANYONE IN HERE.
BUT CAN YOU TELL ME, HAS THIS ORDINANCE, IS IT MIRROR IMAGE EXACTLY TO THE WORD OF THE STATE STATUTE THAT'S OUT THERE? THERE'S ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED AT THE STATE LEVEL IN TITLE 25, UM, EXCUSE ME.
AND WHAT IT, WHAT IT SETS FORTH IS THIS, IT, IT, UM, SAYS THAT THE DEPARTMENT CAN ESTABLISH ADDITIONAL FORENSIC FACILITIES FOR TREATMENT OF FORENSIC PATIENTS IN BATON ROUGE AS FUNDS ARE APPROPRIATED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND THAT THE DIRECTOR OF THAT FACILITY SHALL, SO THAT'S NOT DISCRETIONARY, THAT'S MANDATORY.
UM, ADMIT PERSONS FROM A CERTAIN SUBSET OF THE PSYCHIATRIC POPULATION.
AND THEN IT GOES ON TO ESTABLISH DIFFERENT CLASSES OF INDIVIDUALS.
UM, I BELIEVE, UH, THAT YES, IT IS COMPLIANT WITH, WITH STATE LAW, THE ENABLING LEGIS LEGISLATION.
SO YOU SAID SHALL SO IT SAYS ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M, I'M GATHERING FROM YOU IS THAT WE HAVE TO ALLOW THESE FACILITIES AND THEY SHALL ALLOW A SUBSET OF PEOPLE TO BE ALLOWED INTO THESE FACILITIES.
WELL, WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE, UM, THE STATE LICENSING PSYCHIATRIC FACILITIES.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE PATIENTS THAT ARE HOUSED IN HOSPITALS.
AND A HOSPITAL ESSENTIALLY IS CERTIFYING MAKING A DETERMINATION THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO TRANSITION.
A PATIENT, AND I GET, I GET THAT PIECE, BUT DOES
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THIS ORDINANCE MIRROR IMAGE WHATEVER THE STATE DESIGNATES? SO DOES, DOES THE STATE SAY THAT IT SHALL NOT BE LOCATED IN ANY RECOGNIZED RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION? YES OR NO? THAT'S JUST A YES OR NO.I, I WOULD NEED TO CHECK THAT TO BE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN.
WHEN DID YOU KNOW THIS WAS COMING BEFORE THIS COMMISSION? BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT.
THEY CAME HERE TO GET AN ANSWER TONIGHT.
UNDERSTAND COUNSEL, THEY CAME FROM THEIR HOMES, THEY LEFT THEIR JOBS, THEY DROVE TO THIS MEETING.
SO I, WE HAVE SAID THIS IN THE PAST, AND I WILL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME FOR EVERYONE THAT'S LISTENING.
I DO NOT WANT A PARISH ATTORNEY COMING TO THIS PODIUM AND TELLING ME WE NEED MORE TIME.
NOW, WAS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE CONTACTED, WERE THEY, WERE THEY CONTACTED TO GET AN OPINION ON THIS? NO, BECAUSE THIS IS A STATE.
DID YOUR OFFICE CONTACT THE PARISH? THE STATE ATTORNEY? LET ME SAY THIS, AND I YES OR NO, IT'S JUST A YES OR NO.
DID YOU GET AN OPINION? I DON'T, I DO NOT KNOW.
SHALL SOMEBODY MIGHT NEED TO CALL THE PARISH ATTORNEY SHALL BE LOCATED AT LEAST 1000 FEET AWAY FROM ANY PROPERTY CURRENTLY USED AS APO PARK OR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
DOES THE STATE LAW SAY THAT THAT COMES FROM THE UDC AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
DOES IT MIRROR IMAGE? WHATEVER THE STATE HAS.
CAN YOU DEFINE, DEFINE, CAN I BACK UP FOR JUST A MINUTE? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
COUNCIL AND, AND, AND MAKE A STATEMENT.
AND RYAN, CAN I HAVE YOU COME UP AND, AND I JUST NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
WE'RE NOT DOING, RYAN, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING THE PARISH ATTORNEY.
THIS IS NOT A PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUE FOR RYAN.
THE, THE, HE'S NOT LICENSED AS AN ATTORNEY.
AND THIS IS GOING TO IN FACT, AFFECT OUR OFFICE.
THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
NO DISRESPECT FOR YOU TO YOU, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NEW, BUT THIS, WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT IS PREPARED AND READY TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
WE'RE NOT WASTING TAXPAYER CITIZENS TIME, MONEY.
IT'S, IT'S JUST DISRESPECTFUL.
CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IS? BECAUSE THAT CAN, WHERE IS THAT DEFINED AND WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT? OKAY.
THAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS PLATTED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THAT THERE ARE, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, GIS MAPS.
SO, SO IT HAD, DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE AN HOA, DOES IT HAVE TO NO.
LIKE, EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS.
NO, I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS TO HAVE AN HOA.
ALRIGHT, SO, SO A RECOGNIZED, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION AND RYAN RESPONDED TO ME.
IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A PLANT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICE AND THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, GIS SURVEYS.
LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DEFINITION OF A FORENSIC FACILITY, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT SAYS, A FACILITY MAY INCLUDE, USES AS HOLD APART FOR ASSISTED LIVING, BOARDING, LODGING, HOUSING, CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY, DAYCARE FACILITY GROUP, HOME HOSPITAL, OR MEDICAL OFFICE CLINIC.
IS THAT IN THE STATE LAW OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WROTE IN? YOU CAN ADD IT UNDER A ONE.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT WE WROTE IN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WROTE IN.
SO IT DOESN'T, I BELIEVE, AND, AND WHEN WE WROTE THAT IN, DID WE CONSIDER THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, THE FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING ACT AND AMERICAN WITH DISABILITIES ACT? IT'S DIFFERENT.
I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT OUR OFFICE DID.
I MEAN, I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT OUR OFFICE DID.
AND, AND, AND I DON'T, MS. COUNCILMAN RO UH, ROKA, I'M, I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THIS.
AND I, FORGIVE ME, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'RE NEW, SO I APOLOGIZE.
WE ALL ACCEPTED THESE POSITIONS AND LIKE I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, WE CAN'T PASS THINGS AND MAKE PROMISES TO THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME DOWN HERE ONLY FOR THEM TO HAVE A, SOMETHING CROP UP IN THEIR BACKYARD AND ONLY FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO GET SUED OR CROPPED UP IN A BACKYARD IN MY DISTRICT.
IT'S HAPPENED, IT'S HAPPENED TO US.
UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN IT HAPPENS, THESE PEOPLE WILL BE WONDERING, WELL, WHAT DID THE CITY DO? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? HOW DID PERMITS GET, WE SAT IN HERE, WE ARGUED AGAINST THIS, WE WERE PROMISED THAT THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT BREEDS PARANOIA THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING BEHIND THE SCENES.
WE GET ACCUSED OF DOING THINGS AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US.
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH BAD LAW.
SO LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION.
THERE'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS IS CONSTITUTIONAL AS IT STANDS TODAY? ABSOLUTELY.
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YEAH.AND I, I WANNA MAKE ONE ADDITIONAL POINT.
THERE ARE, THIS IS A FIRST FAR BATON ROUGE, BUT THERE ARE MANY CITIES IN OUR REGION, JACKSON, RILEY, UH, THERE ARE PROBABLY 10 OR 12 CITIES ACROSS THE SOUTH THAT ARE DOING THIS.
CAN YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE, SIR? FOR THE RECORD.
HAS OFFERED TO GIVE HIS FIVE MINUTES TO COUNCIL.
AKA SO CONTINUE, MR. ROME, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU STAY PRETTY ABRE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR OFFICE.
WOULD YOU SAY WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY THAT THIS, AS IT'S WRITTEN TODAY, IS A, A DIRECT MIRROR OF STATE LAW AND IS CONSTITUTIONAL? I DON'T KNOW IF IT MIRRORS STATE LAW.
I, I'D WANNA MAKE SURE THAT DEFINITION'S CORRECT, BUT IF YOU ARE ASKING FROM A CONSTITUTIONAL STANDPOINT, I THINK THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS MAKE IT AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK YOU ALWAYS END UP WITH A LEGAL CHALLENGE.
WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS IF Y'ALL PASS IT IN, WHATEVER SHAPE OR FORM IT IS, THIS OFFICE IS GOING TO DEFEND IT AS BEST WE CAN.
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WHENEVER YOU LOSE OVER IN THE 19TH? JDC AND PERMITS ARE GIVEN TO A FACILITY? I MEAN, I, I'M GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
I MEAN, I JUST, I'M GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT THAT HAPPENS.
AND LOOK, MY SUSPICION, AND I DON'T KNOW 'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO TIP HANDS FOR LAWYERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL END UP IN THE 19TH JDC.
MY SUSPICION IS WE'LL PROBABLY END UP IN FEDERAL COURT, BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T PREDICT THAT.
WELL, ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS WHATEVER YOU PASS, YOU HAVE 100% ASSURANCES FROM THIS OFFICE THAT WILL DEFEND IT VIGOROUSLY.
I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU A WIN, AND I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU THAT IT WON'T GET CHALLENGED.
CAN YOU GUARANTEE ME THAT IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL? THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.
DO HAVE YOU EVALUATED THE FAIR, FAIR HOUSING ACT? NOT YET.
SO HAVING TO FIGHT, UM, FOR COMMUNITY, UH, SUCH AS IN MY DISTRICT WHERE, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, BUT A LOT OF INDUSTRI INDUSTRIAL THINGS THAT, THAT BASICALLY IMPACTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS.
SO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE INCOME AND JOBS, UM, HOUSING AND EDUCATION, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE, UM, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LIFE AND A WORK BALANCE WHERE YOU LIVE THE INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WHERE YOU FEEL FREE TO ROAM IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, RIDE TO BICYCLE.
UM, AND YOU ARE NOT CONCERNED.
CONVERSATIONS OF THAT THREATEN YOUR COMMUNITY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS.
UM, WHAT THE ONLY CONCERN THAT A SUBDIVISION SHOULD HAVE IS THINGS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE.
IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONDUCIVE? YOU KNOW, WHAT SERVICES, UH, PHARMACY CLOSE BY A GROCERY STORE OR PARKS, RECREATION, EVEN IN SUBDIVISIONS.
YOU DON'T WANT A HOSPITAL IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SUBDIVISION.
YOU DON'T WANT, UM, ANYTHING THAT IS A PUBLIC FACILITY WHERE, WHERE IT INCREASES THE, UM, THE, THE COMMUNAL REPRESENTATION OF A, OF A SUBDIVISION.
THERE IS NO WAY ANYBODY, FIRST OF ALL, ALSO I WOULD SAY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE PARISH ATTORNEY IS TO ADVISE US, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION BEFORE WE GET HERE.
THERE'S ANY TIME I CALL A PARISH ATTORNEY UP HERE, IF I CARE ABOUT IT ENOUGH, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S THIS, I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION ON THE PHONE IN A EMAIL OR WHATEVER, I'M NOT GONNA COME IN A GOTCHA SITUATION AND ASK THE PARISH ATTORNEY.
YOU COULD ASK HIM A HUNDRED DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T KNOW A LAWYER THAT WOULD
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HANG HIS HAT ON SAYING 100% I'M GONNA WIN A CASE OR SOMEBODY NOT GONNA SUE ME.THAT THAT IS, THAT IS, I DON'T SAY HOW ANYONE THAT HAS A LAW DEGREE OR PRACTICE OR EVEN WATCH LAW NOT ON TV, WOULD NOT KNOW THAT.
THOSE ARE NOT THINGS THAT CAN EVER BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ANY MORE THAN US WALKING OUTTA HERE AND SAY THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA GET HIT BY A CAR.
THE SEATBELT NOT GONNA WORK OR WHATEVER.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I HAVE DONE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A MORATORIUM AGAINST INDUSTRY BECAUSE OF THE, IN ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF, UM, INDUSTRY THAT IS IN IMPACTS OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT STILL THAT HAS BEEN WHERE BUSINESS HAS A RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE AREAS IN WHICH THEY OPERATE, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING OUT FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THEIR RESIDENTS.
AND THE, UM, AS, UH, THE LADY 82 YEARS OLD, UH, I FORGET, I KNOW YOUR NAME REALLY WELL.
I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER IT RIGHT NOW.
PART OF QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE ELDERLY IS PEACE AND TRANQUILITY.
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO WONDER, EVEN BE CONCERNED, EVEN IF IT'S NO THREAT TO A FACILITY THAT THEY HAVE PAID TAXES ON, PURCHASE A HOME.
NOBODY SHOULD GO THROUGH THAT.
IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO LOOK OUT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT MATTERS.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE TO VOTE.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
JUST LET THE STATE LAW, WHATEVER DICTATE.
BUT NONE OF THAT IS MIRRORED AS A HUNDRED.
OTHERWISE, WHY WE VOTED IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS, WHERE THEY LIVE, WHERE THEY WORK, UH, WHERE THEY PLAY, WHERE THEY WORSHIP.
IT MATTERS MORE SO TO PERSONS IN AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH THAT HAVE NOT HAD A VOICE OVER THESE 40 YEARS THAT THEY HAD REPRESENTATION.
AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO SPEAK.
COUNCILMAN, YOU WANT TO TESTIFY FOR THEM? THANK YOU.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, THAT WE, UH, DENY THIS ITEM.
A MOTION TO DENY BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS
THERE IS A MOTION TO DENY THE ITEM BY COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS TURN MIC ON.
I'D LIKE TO DO IS WITHDRAW MY, UM, MOTION.
AND I'M SURE THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION AND WE'LL, I'LL, I'LL RESERVE IT FOR THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS. THANK YOU.
UM, IN SPENDING SOME TIME, UH, THINKING ABOUT THIS, THIS ITEM, UM, I COULDN'T HELP BUT COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAVE OVERCOME SO MANY BIASES, WE HAVE BROKEN DOWN SO MANY BARRIERS.
UM, THE BIGOTRY, THE STIGMA, THE STIGMA, THE SUSPICION AND THE FEAR OF MENTAL ILLNESS REMAINS IN 20, UH, 2020.
AND I, UH, SINCE WE SHARE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, UM, SAW THOUSANDS OF PATIENTS OF COVID PATIENTS, UM, IN ON ESSEN LANE, UM, ON BLUE BONNET ROAD.
UM, IF IT WAS THE 1980S, UM, WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT REGULATING AN AIDS TREATMENT FACILITY.
IF IT WERE THE SIXTIES OR SEVENTIES, WE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT REGULATING WHERE A HOME FOR UNW MOTHERS COULD BE LOCATED.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY VISITED ONE OF THOSE HOME FOR UNWED MOTHERS.
UH, AND IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUS BUSINESS DISTRICT.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT WAS ONE OF THE SADDEST AND MOST DEPRESSING PLACES I'VE EVER BEEN.
IF WE WERE IN THE FORTIES OR FIFTIES, WE MIGHT BE DISCUSSING A, A FACILITY TO TREAT POLIO.
IF WE'RE IN THE TWENTIES OR THIRTIES, WE MIGHT BE DISCUSSING, UH, WHERE A LEPROSARIUM SHOULD BE, UM, PLACED.
THE DISEASES CHANGE, BUT THE FEAR OF THOSE WHO ARE SICK, UM, DOESN'T CHANGE.
WHEN I LOOK AT, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THE STATUTES, UM, I SEE THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE DETERMINED INCOMPETENT PRIOR TO TRIAL AND, UM, AND, AND DON'T PASS, UH, THE SANITY COMMISSION.
THESE ARE PEOPLE FOUND NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY.
UM, THESE ARE, UH, SOME OF THE LEAST OF THESE.
I HAVE LOOKED FOR DATA, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD SUPPORT
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THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE FREQUENTLY BREAK OUT OF THESE FACILITIES.UM, AND I HAVE NOT FOUND DATA TO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT THEY FREQUENTLY, UM, BREAK OUT OF THESE FACILITIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO, TO, AS A COUNCIL PERSON, I HEAR FREQUENTLY ABOUT THE MENTALLY ILL THAT ARE ON OUR STREETS.
AND, UM, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT, THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL WOULD NOT BE, UM, BETTER OFF, UM, IN A FACILITY WHERE THEY CAN RECEIVE THE CARE AND, UM, AND, AND BE ISOLATED IF NEED BE.
UM, THEN THEY ARE ON OUR STREETS.
SO I HAVE, UM, I HAVE, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, UM, I'VE HAD TO CHECK MYSELF AND ASK MYSELF IS, IS THE FEAR, UM, BASED ON REALITY OR IS IT JUST HUMAN NATURE AND FEARING THINGS THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND AND THAT MAKE US UNCOMFORTABLE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, WE GO TO ANYONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER MO RYAN, CAN YOU COME UP? I AM SORRY, IT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU CAN'T ANSWER AT THE MOMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT JUST FROM THESE RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR THING GOES AND ALL, AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CITY, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THAT PRETTY MUCH NEGLECT? WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THAT PRETTY MUCH, UH, TAKES OUT OF THE CITY OF LOCATIONS OF THESE THINGS? 80%, 90% OF THE CITY PARISH.
I HAVEN'T SEEN A DEPUTY MAP TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT.
I I KNOW YOU CANNOT CREATE LEGAL REGULATIONS OR GUIDELINES THAT WOULD PROHIBIT A PROPOSED USE FROM OPERATING IN THE PARISH.
YOU CAN'T STRONGLY, YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THAT.
THERE ARE AREAS WHERE SUCH FUTURE FACILITIES COULD BE CITED.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS FROM I AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A PERCENTAGE.
UM, WE'VE TRIED THESE KINDS OF THINGS, UM, ON OTHER COUNCILS AND GOTTEN OVERTURNED.
I THINK THIS IS, I THINK YOU'RE THROWING A, A BROAD NET OVER A SPECIFIC THING THAT IS GOING TO GET CAUGHT LATER ON.
I'M NOT SAYING IT NEEDS TO BE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF A SUBDIVISION, BUT I THINK WE'RE THROWING SUCH A BROAD NET ON THIS.
YOU ARE USING ZONING TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A PARTICULAR ITEM.
AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF SNOWBALL STANDS OR IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF FACILITIES LIKE THIS OR EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO ZONING LIKE THIS, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING, I CAN'T GET RID OF YOU.
I CAN'T NOT ALLOW YOU TO BUILD, BUT I CAN ZONE YOU SO BAD.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO BUILD IN THIS AREA OR IN THIS PARISH.
THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME THAT I HAVE.
WHETHER LIKE, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT I THINK WE'VE THROWN TOO MUCH OF A NET OVER THIS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE ZERO DOWN.
I WANNA KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GO IN GENERAL, I WANNA KNOW HOW MUCH IS AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN USE THAT DATA.
SO JUST LIKE COUNCILWOMAN ROCCA AND, AND THE PARISH ATTORNEY AND EVERYTHING THAT SAID THAT THEY WOULD DEFEND IT, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BACKING AND WE DID THE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN DEFEND IT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW.
MY MOTION IS TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS.
THERE IS A MOTION TO DEFER THE ITEM FOR 30 DAYS.
IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND ON THE MOTION? MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SE.
SECOND ON THE MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOLL.
SECOND ON THE MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOLL.
WE NOW GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER NOLL RYAN, I HAVE A QUESTION.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A, UM, FORENSIC FACILITY AS OUTLINED IN, UH, WHAT IS IT, TITLE 28? UM, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THAT AND I GUESS THE ONLY WAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN REFERENCED PRIOR TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADOPT HERE.
ASSISTED LIVING HOSPITAL, WHATEVER,
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WHATEVER.CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENCES? SO AGAIN, UM, ANY SUCH FACILITY COULD BE CITED NOW AND TREATED AS A GENERAL HOSPITAL.
THERE'S NO MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
IN THE STUDY WE PROVIDED LAST YEAR TO YOU, ALL THE MAJOR CITIES IN LOUISIANA ARE TREATED IDENTICAL TO HOW WE CURRENTLY TREAT IT.
THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA, THE DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATOR OF ANY SUCH FACILITIES SHALL ADMIT ONLY THOSE PERSONS DETERMINED TO BE INCOMPETENT PRIOR TO TRIAL AND COMMITTED ON RECOMMENDATION OF A SANITY COMMISSION.
NUMBER TWO, FOUND NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY.
THREE TRANSFERRED FROM STATE CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES.
FOUR, WHO WERE JUDICI JUDICIALLY COMMITTED AFTER BEING CHARGED WITH A CRIMINAL OFFENSE AND FOUND INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL AND FIVE JUDICIALLY COMMITTED TWO AND TRANSFERRED FROM ANY HOSPITAL FROM PERSONS HAVING A MENTAL ILLNESS OR SUBSTANCE RELATED OR ADDICTIVE DISORDER.
SO, SO THOSE ARE THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED AND DEFINED WITH ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS.
AND THAT'S HOW, AND THAT'S HOW I'VE UNDERSTOOD IT AND, AND I'M I'M DOING THIS FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS, UH, AKIN TO A, UH, PRISON FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ISSUES.
CORRECT? I MEAN, IT, IT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S DESIGNATED THAT WAY IS SO THAT IT CAN HAVE PROBABLY EXTRA SECURITY MEASURES.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS AT THE STATE LEVEL.
THE STATE DOES REQUIRE A SECURE FACILITY.
THERE IS A TYPE OF FENCING, A SPECIFIC HEIGHT OF THE FENCING AND ON-PREMISE SECURITY AND, AND SECURITY FUNCTIONS FOR BUILDING EXACTLY.
AND AND THAT'S, AND I GUESS THAT'S MY MY POINT.
THAT'S WHY THE WHOLE REASON THIS IS BEING STUDIED AND DISCUSSED IS BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE SAME AS A HOSPITAL.
IT'S BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU READ AND DESCRIBED THE FACT THAT EVEN THE STATE SAYS IT'S GOTTA HAVE SECURITY AND FENCING.
IT IS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN JUST A HOSPITAL.
THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
MY QUESTION IS, UM, WELL I HAVE, I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MEASUREMENT, HOW IS THAT MEASURED FROM THE FACILITIES FRONT DOORS FROM THE TRACTOR OF LAND? HOW WOULD THAT BE MEASURED? FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF ANY PROPERTY DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL OR RES OR RECOGNIZED SUBDIVISION? THAT'S PLATTED RESIDENTIAL.
DO WE HAVE THAT SAME REQUIREMENT FOR A JAIL L OR A PRISON? THERE'S NOT A, A CURRENTLY SEPARATE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR PRISONS OR CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES.
AND, AND THE REASON THAT IS, IS BECAUSE THOSE ARE NORMALLY RUN BY CITY OR STATE INSTITUTIONS, WHICH ARE EXEMPT FROM LOCAL ZONING.
SO, SO STATE LAW DOESN'T EVEN SPEAK TO THAT.
AND, AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS, AND, AND THIS MADE ME THINK ABOUT IT AND I PULLED UP OUR GIS BECAUSE WE APPROVED A RATHER LARGE THOUSAND HOME SUBDIVISION IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PARISH THAT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY THAT HAS JETSON CORRECTIONAL ON IT ACROSS THE STREET, THROW BASEBALL TO IT.
AND SO NOBODY BATTED AN EYE AT THAT.
AND WE, WE ALLOWED A WHOLE BUNCH OF, A WHOLE SUBDIVISION TO GO IN.
AND THERE'S SOME ACROSS THE OTHER STREET TOO THAT'S APPROVED.
AND SO WHY, WHY IS NOBODY LOOKING AT A PRISON WITH HARDENED CRIMINALS TO HAVE RESTRICTIONS? BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE WHO ARE BEING MARGINALIZED FOR, FOR IN A FACILITY WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET HELP.
AND THAT MAY BE THE CAUSE OR PURPOSE.
THESE PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN STAY IN TRIAL BECAUSE OF HOW THEY'VE BEEN, UH, DETERMINED TO BE.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE'VE EVER LOOKED AT OR EVEN TALKED TO THE STATE ABOUT LOOKING AT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LOCAL REGULATIONS.
UH, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT ISSUE IF THERE'S A NEED FOR SUCH A, SUCH A FACILITY OR SUCH A, A REGULATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER BANKS SECOND TIME.
MAY, UH, MAY I, UM, RYAN, PLEASE.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, UM, WE, WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A FACILITY, BUT I KNOW I NOTICE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS HAVE TO DO WITH, UM, DISCRIMINATING AGAINST A CERTAIN POPULATION.
COULD YOU EXPOUND ON THAT? IS THERE, WILL THIS, UM, A KEEP PERSONS THAT WOULD BE IN THIS FACILITY, ARE THEY BEING
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DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND ARE THERE, AND ALSO IS IT, UM, NOT, IS IT, DOES IT GO AGAINST A DA IN ANY WAY? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE GROUP HOMES IN A ONE, EVEN IN MY SUBDIVISION, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY ONLY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE THERE.THEY'RE, IT IS NOT A FACILITY AND IT'S PROBABLY, UM, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT MANDATED THERE.
BUT HOW DOES THAT WORK? IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND EXPERIENCE, UH, THIS, THIS IS A VALID ORDINANCE.
UH, IT WAS REVIEWED THE STUDY AND THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS WERE REVIEWED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
UH, AGAIN, THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS, THERE WAS ALSO PRECEDENT, NOT IN LOUISIANA, BUT THERE WAS OTHER REGIONAL CITIES IN THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES.
UH, THAT INFORMATION WAS CONTAINED IN THAT ORIGINAL STUDY THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNSEL.
IS ANY SEGMENT OF THE POPUL OF THE POPULATION BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST? IS MY QUESTION.
HAS ANYONE OTHER THAN, UH, BEEN REACHED OUT TO YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING A DA COMPLIANCE, DISCRIMINATION OR ANYTHING? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.
WHAT HAS BEEN THE SENTIMENTS OR THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKED FROM THE VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER? JUST, UH, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND IT, PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, AND YOU WERE THAT ABLE TO REFERENCES TO THE PREVIOUS STUDY? YES, MA'AM.
OH, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, UM, THE LADY'S NAME, I HADN'T SEEN HER BEFORE.
WELL INTRODUCE YOURSELF SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
I HAVE HEARD YOUR NAME BEFORE.
UM, SO HAVE, I MEAN, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? I HAVE, UH, WE HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION.
UM, COUNCILMAN, I THINK THAT'S ATTORNEY CLIENT OF PRIVILEGE, POINT OF ORDER.
I THINK THAT'S ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT SHE CAN DISCUSS, NO, I DON'T WANT HER TO GIVE NAMES.
I SAID THAT IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
SHE CANNOT DISCUSS THE CONVERSATIONS AND LEGAL ADVICE THAT SHE GIVES US INDIVIDUALLY OR COLLECTIVELY WITH THE GROUP.
I I, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, ANY I ANY INFORMATION WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY, UNLESS IT'S GOING TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, WHICH WE HAVE TO VOTE ON, BUT AS COUNCILMAN, AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU FOR NAMES, I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING THAT I THINK THAT ALL OF US IS, ARE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE LAW IS ARE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A DA COMPLIANCE, ARE WE DOING ANYTHING? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING FOR ALL THE PEOPLE OUT HERE WHO ARE BEING TOLD THEY MIGHT GET A LAWSUIT AND WHICH WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT WHEN WE DO OTHER THINGS.
BUT WHAT I WANT IS, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE QUESTIONS? 'CAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST COMING TODAY ASKING QUESTIONS.
UH, THAT YOU'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS PRIOR.
AND WE GOT ABOUT A MINUTE AND A HALF, HONESTLY.
UM, MS. BANKS, WE HAVE NOT HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE HAD, OH, WELL THAT TAKES THAT OFF THE MM-HMM.
SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE EXTENT OF IT.
SO YOU, SO, AND, AND, AND TO GO TO YOUR, YOUR QUESTION OF, UM, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS COULD BE CITED ALL IN MANY PARTS OF THE PARISH.
SO WE'RE FOCUSING, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE IN ONE PART OF THE PARISH.
BUT IN REALITY, THEY'RE ZONING ACROSS THE PARISH WHERE THESE THINGS COULD BE CITED.
SO, SO THAT I THINK, SPEAKS TO THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE RAISED ABOUT DISCRIMINATION AND RIGHT.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT BEING UNFAIRLY PLACED IN ONE PART OF TOWN OR YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT TAKES IT OFF BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT IF THERE'S SOMEONE IN THAT WANTS TO PUT A FACILITY IN SHENANDOAH, THIS IS WILL PROTECT THEM.
WELL, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO PUT IT IN H HC ONE, HC TWO MM-HMM.
AND, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THOSE PLACES ARE NOT JUST IN NORTH BATON ROUGE.
BUT I DO THINK, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT, IS A PLA ONE OF THOSE EQUITABLE AGENDA ITEMS. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF, UM, THE, THE UNEQUITABLE DECISIONS THAT, THAT HEAVILY IMPACT THE NORTH BATON ROUGE, THEN I CERTAINLY HAVE, UH, A MORE PASSIONATE PLEA AS A RE REGARDS TO THEM.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IF SOMEONE CALLED ME FROM RIVER BEND, I'M GONNA BE WITH THEM.
IF THEY'RE IN SHENANDOAH, I'M GONNA BE WITH THEM WHEREVER THEY ARE.
IF THEY AT THE COUNTRY CLUB OF LOUISIANA, I'M GONNA BE WITH THEM.
PROVIDED THEY MEET THE ZONING.
CRITERIA, BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT THE CLOSE.
FIND THEIR HOUSES AND WHERE THEY LIVE.
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THANK YOU, SIR.I'VE SAT HERE AND HEARD MUCH AND PUT QUOTATION MARKS AROUND THAT WORD.
MUCH TALKED ABOUT RESEARCH, TALKED ABOUT A STUDY, TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL THREATS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NEAR SCHOOL, SPECIFIC FOREST HEIGHT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TITLE 28, 25 0.1 THAT HAD SOME SUBSTANCE TO IT.
WE TALKED ABOUT SENIOR CITIZENS, OF WHICH I AM ONE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT EVERYBODY'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND NOT A SELFISH POINT HERE, BUT EVERYBODY'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THE PATIENTS, PUTTING THESE PEOPLE BASICALLY OUT IN PASTURES LIKE THEY ARE ANIMALS.
I SAY, I THINK SOME FOLK MUST BE WATCHING TOO MUCH TV.
GODZILLA, THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS IN JACKSON.
THERE'S THE FORENSIC HOSPITAL UP THERE, AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
I SAW MANY OF THE PEOPLE THERE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, SHE ENDED UP BRINGING ONE OF THE PATIENTS AWAY FROM THERE TO LIVE WITH HER.
MS. RUBY AND MS. RUBY HAD A GREAT LIFE THERE.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BLOCKING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE TALK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME, ABOUT THE NEED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BLOCKING THAT FOLK GETTING JOBS.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BLOCKING EDUCATION, WHERE THERE VERY WELL COULD BE AN ALIGNMENT BECAUSE THIS POPULATION IS GROWING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THERE COULD BE AN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR UNIVERSITIES WITHOUT HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN WHERE THEY CAN BE A PART OF THIS.
SO JUST DON'T DO NOTHING WITH THE BUILDINGS AND LET BLIGHT GROW.
JUST TODAY, A 30 5-YEAR-OLD WOMAN CAME TO THE LEO BUTLER CENTER AND THAT SHE WAS, IS DUAL DIAGNOSED, HUNGRY, WALKING THE STREETS, THREE MONTHS, PREGNANT HUSBAND DEAD.
BUT GUESS WHAT? SHE'S STILL A HUMAN BEING IN NEED OF SERVICES.
THIS IS NO COOKIE CUTTER, Y'ALL.
THIS IS NO COOKIE CUTTER FOR EVERYBODY.
YOU HAVE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.
LET THEM DECIDE SOMETHING ON THIS.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAY, THIS IS DISCRIMINATORY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT FLYER THAT WENT OUT AND IT SAID, I WAS APPALLED AT THAT FLYER, IT SAID, NO FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
SO YOU ALREADY POINTING AT A POPULATION OF PEOPLE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
I JUST HAVE ONE LITTLE QUESTION FOR YOU.
AND YES, YOU MAY ASK PEOPLE, YOU MAY SAY YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT.
KNOW WHAT DISTRICT 10 NEED IT.
IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE DISTRICT 10 NEEDS IT, I WANT YOU TO GO OVER TO THE BUS STATIONS, GREYHOUND AND CATS.
I WANT YOU TO GO OVER ON FLORIDA BOULEVARD AT MG GROCERY.
I WANT YOU TO GO TO THE TREVOR SIMS BRIDGE THAT WE'VE CLEANED UP.
AND THEY'RE RIGHT BACK UNDER THERE SAYING, FOLK, DON'T DO THAT.
I WANT YOU TO GO OVER IN NORTHDALE.
I WANT YOU TO GO OVER BY THE LAKE WHERE THEY UP IN THE BUSHES.
SEE? BUT Y'ALL DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T TRAVELED THAT.
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I WANT YOU TO GO TO SPANISH TOWN.I WANT YOU TO GO OVER THERE ON WELLER AVENUE AT THE CHASE BANK.
AND WHEN I TOOK, YES SIR, PLEASE.
AND WHEN I TOOK THIS POSITION AND I CAN STAND ON ALL 10 WHEN I TOOK THIS POSITION, I DID NOT.
THAT'S SAY, THAT DON'T MEAN I GOTTA GIVE YOU THAT.
I WAS GOING TO REPRESENT THOSE THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, SO SANE WHEN I TOOK THIS ON.
I'M REPRESENTING THE CONSTITUENTS OF DISTRICT 10, ALL 37,000.
AND SO THIS POPULATION IS INCLUDED.
RYAN, DO WE HAVE A FACILITY HERE RIGHT NOW OF THIS NATURE IN BATON ROUGE? I'M NOT AWARE OF ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY OPERATING THERE.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT A PREVIOUS FACILITY ON SUMMERALL.
I, I CAN'T STATE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE OPEN AND OPERATING WITH FORENSIC PATIENTS ARE NOT, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE A LICENSE OR NOT FROM THE STATE OF LOUISIANA OR THE PERMIT OFFICE.
ANOTHER THING IS, AND JUST LIKE SO MANY OF YOU AND US, IF YOU GOT YOUR MEDICINE, YOU IN A BETTER PLACE.
IT MAY NOT BE MENTAL MEDICINE THAT YOU MAY BE TAKING, BUT EVEN THAT BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICINE, YOU ARE IN A BETTER SPOT BECAUSE YOU TOOK THAT.
SO I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS POPULATION IN A FACILITY WHERE THEY ARE CARED FOR AND GET THEIR MEDICINE AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEM AS OPPOSED TO ALL OF THESE THAT ARE OUT HERE AND NOT RECEIVING SERVICES.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE MUST BE MINDFUL OF, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME FAR REACHED PEOPLE.
ALL OF US GOT SOME OF THESE FOLK IN OUR FAMILY, WHETHER YOU WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT.
AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, TO PUT TO SAY NO, JUST A STRAIGHT OUT NO FOR ALL OF THIS, IT CONCERNS ME AND KNOW WHAT, THIS IS PERSONAL Y'ALL.
SO DON'T BE PULLED INTO SOMETHING.
DON'T BE PULLED INTO SOMETHING AND YOU LOSE ALL OF WHO YOU ARE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS FOR, UH, PLANNING OR PARISH ATTORNEY, BUT, UH, THEY, ONE, BE PREPARED.
THE QUESTION IS, WE HAD A DISCUSSION A WHILE BACK ABOUT GROUP HOMES IN, IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE WERE TOLD WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, RULE THEM OUT.
WE HAVE TO ALLOW THEM BECAUSE OF HOUSING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THESE ARE HOMES THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH WE DON'T KNOW.
WE ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S IN THESE GROUP HOMES.
THEY JUST SHOW UP AND WE WERE TOLD THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT IT.
SO WHY DOES THIS NOT FALL UNDER THE, I GUESS WHY DOES IT THIS NOT FALL UNDER THE SAME CATEGORY AS FAR AS BUSINESS GOES? I KNOW IT, IT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COULD BE MENTAL PEOPLE IN THOSE GROUP HOMES.
THERE COULD BE MEDICALLY DISABLED PEOPLE IN THOSE GROUP HOMES.
THERE COULD BE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCRIMINATE IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE GOT SHERWOOD FOREST THAT'S GOT 'EM EVERY OTHER BLOCK, BUT YET WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DOCUMENT IT.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, WHY CAN'T WE ZONE THOSE OUT? BUT WE CAN ZONE THIS OUT OF EXISTENCE.
SO THERE WAS A COURT CASE DEALING WITH THAT.
UM, AND THOSE ARE VERY SPECIFIC PROTECTED CLASSES IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING.
ACTING AS A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
THIS IS A FACILITY THAT HAS A CORRECTIONAL COMPONENT THAT'S LICENSED BY THE STATE.
THAT'S THAT, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THERE'S SPECIFIC PEOPLE THAT CAN LIVE THERE OR IT'S GENERAL.
IT IS JUST GENERAL AS FAR AS WHAT CAN BE IN A GROUP HOME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE A PROTECTED CLASS UNDER THE FAIR HOUSING ACT IS, UM, WOULD THIS BE A PROTECTED CLASS THAT WE'RE ZONING OUT TONIGHT?
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I CAN'T SAY IF ALL THESE PATIENTS OR SOME OF THESE PATIENTS DON'T HAVE DISABILITIES, THAT WOULD BE A PROTECTED CLASS.UM, I WOULD THINK MENTAL WOULD BE A PROTECTED CLASS.
SO ARE WE SET AGAIN, IT GOES BACK.
I I THINK WE'RE THROWING TOO BROAD OF ANNETTE.
UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIT, GREG, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ON WHAT I JUST ASKED.
JUST STANDING THERE IN CASE YOU HAD A QUESTION.
I I, I THINK HE ANSWERED IT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HE AND HE NARROWED IT DOWN TO PROTECTED CLASS.
UM, I, I'M JUST GONNA GO BACK TO, TO MY DEFERRAL SO WE CAN SPECIFICALLY NAIL THIS DOWN.
UH, I THINK WE'RE GETTING OURSELVES INTO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARED FOR.
WE HAVE THESE FACILITIES IN THESE HOMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT.
BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE MENTALLY, UM, PEOPLE THAT CAN'T WITHSTAND TRIAL MENTALLY.
BUT WE CAN HAVE GROUP HOMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE.
RYAN, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP, RYAN, YOU REFERENCED IN SOME OF YOUR EARLY STATE EARLIER STATEMENTS THERE WERE FOUR OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED.
CAN YOU REVIEW THOSE FOUR OPTIONS PLEASE? SO IN THE PREVIOUS STUDY THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNSEL AND GIVEN TO YOU, UM, BACK LATE LAST YEAR, THE FOUR OPTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT STUDY AT THE END OF THE STUDY IN ADDITIONAL TO THE RESEARCH FROM THE OTHER CITIES WERE TO, UH, AND THESE WERE AGAIN, FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL, WERE NUMBER ONE TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT PRACTICE THAT FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC FACILITIES WOULD BE CONTINUED TO CONSIDER BE CONSIDERED AS A HOSPITAL USE.
SO THEREFORE ALLOWED IN ANY LIGHT COMMERCIAL OR HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WITHOUT ANY FURTHER REGULATIONS.
NUMBER TWO, INTRODUCE A NEW USE WITH CORRECTIONAL WITH A CORRECTIONAL COMPONENT AND ALLOW IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
NUMBER THREE, INTRODUCE A NEW USE WITH A CORRECTIONAL COMPONENT AND ALLOWING PREDETERMINED ZONING DISTRICTS ADDING ADDITIONAL DISTANCE LIMITATIONS.
THE DISTANCE LIMITATIONS IS CURRENTLY USED TO PROVIDE RELIEF WHERE CONFLICTING USES OR ABUTTING USES ARE DETERMINED NOT TO BE COMPATIBLE.
NUMBER FOUR, INTRODUCE A NEW USE AS A CORRECTIONAL COMPONENT AND ALLOW IN PREDETERMINED ZONING DISTRICTS WITH DISTANCE LIMITATIONS AND VISUAL SCREENING.
THE VISUAL SCREENING IS CURRENTLY INCORPORATED AS BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENTS.
ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE RELIEF TO ADJACENT LAND USES AND PROVIDE A THERAPEUTIC IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE FACILITY.
AND THE, THE OPTION WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY IS OPTION NUMBER FOUR, THE MOST RESTRICTIVE.
DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
COUNCILMAN, AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, THE COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO PROCEED TO DRAFT A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR CONSIDERATION CONSISTENT WITH, WITH ITEM FOUR.
AND IT, I'M SORRY, A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
IF WOULD ANY OF THE OTHER OPTIONS, WELL LET ME ASK OPTIONS, TWO OR THREE SATISFY WHAT'S BEING SOUGHT HERE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND, AND REQUIRE A FACILITY TO LOCATE IN A PARTICULAR ZONED AREA.
SO TWO AND THREE WERE ADDING SOME RESTRICTIONS.
THEY INCREASED IN INTENSITY AS YOU BILL TWO TWO OPTION FOUR MM-HMM,
SO OPTION FOUR WAS THE MOST RESTRICTIVE OUT OF THE OPTIONS CONSIDERED IN THAT STUDY? MM-HMM,
AND OPTION TWO, NEW USE, UH, WITHIN INDUSTRIAL.
WOULD THAT, LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY IF THAT WERE ADOPTED, WOULD THAT REQUIRE A FACILITY TO COME AND GET ANY SPORT IN ANY SORT OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT? NO.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN AN INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATED ZONING DISTRICT.
COULD THERE BE AN OPTION TO REQUIRE ANY, TO ANY TYPE OF SPECIAL USE OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH ANY OF THE OPTIONS YOU OUTLINED? YOU CERTAINLY COULD.
SO YOU COULD PUT IN THE SPECIFIC ZONINGS, FOR INSTANCE, INDUSTRIAL AND, AND WE COUNCIL COULD ALSO ADD FOR THESE SPECIFIC TYPES OF FACILITIES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WOULD PUT ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY.
IT IS A, THIS USE DEFINING THE USE, ASSIGNING IT TO VERY SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS.
IS THAT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE THE CUP, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD DO THE, I'M SORRY, I I HONED IN ON THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS, THIS OPTION BEFORE YOU ALSO REQUIRES, IN ADDITION TO THAT, A MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
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THAT REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.SO AGAIN, ASSIGNED TO SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS ADDING A THOUSAND FOOT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.
AND EVEN IF YOU MEET THOSE TWO CRITERIA, HAVE THE CORRECT ZONING HAVE THE DISTANCE LIMITATIONS, YOU WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO COME BEFORE AS FOR A MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL UNDER OPTION FOUR, CORRECT? NOT UNDER OPTIONS ONE THROUGH THREE, CORRECT.
MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE WAS, WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT? IT COULD BE.
UM, RYAN, HANG, I, I MAY HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION COME TO ME IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, MRS. FRAZIER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP THE, UM, POPUL I WILL GO IN.
IS SHE STILL HERE? OH, THERE YOU GO.
THE POPULATION THAT, UH, WOULD BE SERVED UNDER THE, UM, FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT OR AM I SAYING THE WRONG TERM? UNDER, UNDER THIS, THE POPULATION THAT WOULD BE SERVED.
ARE THEY A PROTECTED CLASS, YOU KNOW, INSANE.
UM, HAD MENTAL, UH, INCAPACITY? UH, I, NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, I, I I MEAN I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, I I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE PROBLEM.
I THINK UNDER THE ADA A IT MAY BE CONSIDERED AS A PROTECTIVE PLAN.
THEN I, I THINK WE NEED SOME MORE TIME ON THIS.
I MEAN IT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
THIS IS AND THAT'S WHAT THE ARGUMENT'S GOING TO BE.
MR. OI HAVE A QUESTION, MR. O UH, BRANDON, I'M SORRY.
UM, LOOKING AT THIS WITH THE, UH, MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HAVE WE HAD IN THE PAST, FROM WHAT YOU CAN REMEMBER, ISSUES WHERE WE HAVE SUITS WHERE IT WAS FOUND THAT WE WERE ARBITRARY IN THE WAY WE WERE TREATING SOMETHING VERSUS ANOTHER TIME? I DON'T KNOW IF THE FINDING WAS ARBITRARY 'CAUSE IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME, BUT WE LOST THE CASE AT FEDERAL COURT.
I THINK IT WAS EITHER THE ODYSSEY OR OXFORD HOUSE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED FEDERAL COURT AND MAYBE, WELL, MAYBE NOT EVEN ENOUGH, BUT JUST THE GENERAL COUNCILMAN GO DAYS.
WELL, HE, HE CAN DO THAT ON HIS TIME.
IF, IF, IF WE, I THINK YOU WANT TO KNOW, BUT THAT'S FINE.
IF I GOT ENOUGH TIME, THAT'S FINE.
BUT, BUT IN GENERAL, UH, THAT, THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE THAT, THAT WE COULD END UP IN TROUBLE IF WE'RE ARBITRARY IN THE WAY WE'RE TREATING DIFFERENT INSTANCES.
IF IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A PROTECTED CLIENT, WOULD, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT ALLOWING THIS BODY TO TREAT IT NOT ONLY TO HAVE PARAMETERS WHERE THIS ZONING THIS MANY FEET, THIS MANY DISTANCE, BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, OPENS THE DOOR FOR US TO BE ARBITRARY? I, I'M NOT GOING TO AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH YOU.
WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS JUST ADVISE YOU THAT YOU GOING PROBABLY END UP IN COURT AND THAT QUESTION'S GOING TO GET ANSWERED.
IT MAY GET ANSWERED FAVORABLY FOR YOU.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF ME AGREEING WITH YOU DISAGREEING ON IT.
DO YOU THINK HAVING IT AVAILABLE TO, UM, IF SOMETHING MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND IT PASSES, IS THAT MORE OR LESS LIKELY TO BE, UH, WOULD YOU RATHER DEFEND THAT OR WOULD YOU RATHER DEFEND IT WHERE WE USED OTHER REASONING BEYOND THAT? I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO GET SUED
I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO GET SUED.
WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS I THINK IT'S A, UH, VAL IN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO TIGHTEN IT UP.
I MEAN, I, I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN HURST IS TRYING TO DO.
I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT NO, AND I DON'T DISAGREE.
I MEAN, ALL I'M GETTING AT IS I'M, YOU TRY TO TIGHTEN IT UP AND DO THE BEST THAT'S POSSIBLE.
I THINK ALL I'M GETTING AT IS I THINK HAVING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ABOVE THAT CREATES A SCENARIO WHERE ANYTIME THIS COMES UP, IF SOMEBODY FINDS A PROPERTY WITHOUT QUESTION, ANYBODY WHO'S AROUND THAT PROPERTY IS GONNA OPPOSE YOU GONNA HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TENDENCY TO SAY NO FOR THAT REASON.
RATHER WHEN, WHEN THEY MET EVERY OTHER REQUIREMENT.
AND THAT PART GIVES ME A LITTLE HESITATION.
UM, YEAH, BUT YOU ASKED ME FOR THAT REASONING.
YOU'RE ASKING ME TO SPECULATE.
SO WITH MY REMAINING TIME, IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER MR. GOD'S QUESTION, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE.
IT COULD POSSIBLY BE A PROTECTIVE CLASS.
THE DIFFERENCE IS, AND MR. HOLCOMB REMINDED ME THERE'S
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A CORRECTIONS COMPONENT TO THIS.I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
SO IT IS A, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IT COULD BE A PROTECTED CLASS, BUT THE DIFFERENCE HERE MEANS THAT THERE IS A CON A CORRECTIONAL COMPONENT TO IT IS, IS THE WAY IT'S READ.
I, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP TO COVER AND, AND REPRESENT THE AREA THAT THEY LIVE IN.
AND THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE OTHER FOLKS AROUND HERE AFFECTED IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS POSSIBILITY TO COME UP ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THEY LIVE WORK OR WHERE THEY PLAY.
AND LIKE THEY SAID, IT IS PERSONAL.
SO, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S PERSONAL IS BECAUSE THIS WAS MY FAMILY DOING THIS.
AND I NO LONGER CAN GO TO THANKSGIVING AND SPEND TIME WITH MY FAMILY BECAUSE I CHOSE TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY THE PUBLIC AND TO PICK IT UP.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO WRONG WAY TO DO RIGHT? NO RIGHT WAY TO DO WRONG.
IT BECAME A POINT WHERE I'VE BEEN THE SAME GYMNASIUM WITH SOME PEOPLE AND DON'T EVEN SPEAK TO 'EM WHO I USED TO SHARE THANKSGIVING DINNER WITH.
BUT I DID THAT FOR YOU BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT BY MY COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
AND I AGREE THAT IT'S PERSONAL NOW.
COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE IT STARTED.
WE HAVE A NEW PARISH ATTORNEY.
WE HAVE A NEW ATTORNEY THAT, THAT SUPPORTS PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TODAY.
BUT I DID, 'CAUSE I ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
AND I DO SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL BY THE WAY.
SO Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO COME BACK BECAUSE I WANT EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
BECAUSE OF THE CORRECTIONS COMPONENT.
IT DOES NOT HAVE A A DA FAIR, FAIR HOUSING, UH, UH, COMPONENT TO IT WHERE GROUP HOMES DO.
SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO, JUST NO DIFFERENT THAN A DA IN A PRISON.
OR THE SAME WAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DA IN A FORENSIC PSYCH HOSPITAL.
THE DIFFERENCE IN TRADITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THESE PEOPLE WENT IN FRONT OF A JUDGE BECAUSE THEY WERE ACCUSED OF COMMITTING A CRIME.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT FOUGHT IN A WAR AND ARE SUFFERING WITH PTSD.
WE ARE TALKING TO SOMEBODY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A SERIAL RAPIST, SERIAL MURDERER, SERIAL ARSONIST, AND WHO COULD NOT GO AND, AND STAY IN TRIAL.
THAT'S A COMPLETE DIFFERENT THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO HAD A, THEIR MOTHER PASSED AND THEY COULDN'T HANDLE THE GRIEF.
SO NOW THEY'RE HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THE TRAUMAS THAT WERE FACED BY THAT IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SUBSET OF THE POPULATION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
AND IF, IF I WISH I, JUSTIN, I TEXTED IT TO HIM DURING THE EVENT.
I MEAN THE, UH, THE, THE HEARING.
BUT HE POSTED IT UP THERE AND I KNOW IT'S BY MEMORY.
THE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL CONTRACT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE STATE SAID THAT THESE PEOPLE POSSESSED AGGRESSIVE AND DANGEROUS BEHAVIORS AND WERE MENTALLY UNSTABLE TO STAY IN TRIAL.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE HOMELESS GUY BECAUSE MY HOMELESS PEOPLE, I LOVE HIM TO DEATH.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, ACTUALLY COME TO THE MIC PLEASE, QUICKLY, PLEASE, PLEASE TELL THEM WHAT WE'LL BE STARTING WITH THE CHARLES KELLY ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY.
UM, THE CHARLES R. KELLY COMMUNITY CENTER WILL HAVE A FEEDING, UM, OUTREACH PROGRAM TO THE, UM, HOMELESS AND NEEDY IN THE AREA.
SO WHY ARE WE DOING THAT, ASHLEY? BECAUSE ACROSS THE STREET AT ST.
GERARD, THERE'S OVER 400, UH, CITIZENS IN DISTRICT FIVE THAT IS ACTUALLY HOMELESS AND IN NEED OF FOOD.
AND WHAT DAYS DO THEY FEED OVER THERE? THEY FEED ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY.
SO, SO WE GONNA DO WHAT ACTUALLY MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND FRIDAY.
SO MY POINT OF TELLING YOU THAT IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE INHUMANE AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T SUPPORT HOMELESS, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING THE ONLY HIGH PERFORMING SCHOOL IN NORTH BATON ROUGE, WHICH IS A BLUE RIBBON SCHOOL.
AND THE REASON WHY THAT SCHOOL IS IN QUESTION IS BECAUSE IT SHARED A FENCE LINE WITH THIS PROPERTY.
OKAY? SO I'VE ANSWERED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THAT.
MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES HAD SEVERAL MONTHS, BY THE WAY, DID Y'ALL HEAR WHAT THEY SAID? THEY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THE SAME THING THAT THEY'RE DENYING TODAY.
WHICH MEANS IT CAME BEFORE THE ENTIRE BODY.
RYAN, CAN YOU, UH, PASS ATTORNEY ONE SECOND PLEASE.
HOW MANY VOTES DOES IT TAKE TO SOME GET SOMETHING APPROVED TO COME TO, TO THE MEETING TODAY? AND I MAYBE IT'S A RYAN QUESTION.
Y'ALL KNOW, Y'ALL KNOW, I I APOLOGIZE FOR THE AGGRESSIVES.
Y'ALL KNOW, I, I GET PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS IS NOT I RESPECT EVERYBODY.
SO HOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY, HOW MANY VOTES, HOW MANY VOTES DOES IT TAKE TO, TO PASS IT, RYAN? SEVEN AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
SO HOW MANY VOTES DO WE HAVE TO HAVE TO MAKE IT TO TODAY? RYAN? I'M SORRY.
WHAT WAS THE, CAN YOU, AFTER YOU GAVE THE FULL REPORT, HOW MANY VOTES DO WE HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE IT PRESENTED TODAY? SEVEN.
THOSE IT WOULD NEED SEVEN VOTES TODAY TO PASS.
HOW MANY VOTES WOULD IT NEED TODAY TO PASS WAYNE? SEVEN.
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ALRIGHT, NOW LEMME TELL Y'ALL SOMETHING.WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT DISTANCE LIMITATIONS AND STOPPING GROWTH IN COMMUNITIES AND ALL THAT OTHER KIND OF STUFF, GUESS WHAT? IT'S A THOUSAND FEET BETWEEN SAND PITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WENT TO COURT AND WERE AND, AND AND HAD CHARGES AND WERE UNFITTED TO STAY IN TRIAL AND LISTEN, GUESS WHAT? OUR, OUR STUFF RIGHT NOW, IF WE HAD TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD AND WE HAD TO GO BACK TO THE 1950S WHEN ALL THIS OLD STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS BUILT, WE WOULD CHANGE OUR MINDS.
BUT IT'S NOT THE FIFTIES, NOT THE SIXTIES, NOT THE SEVENTIES.
THERE'S A THOUSAND FEET BETWEEN STRIP CLUBS.
WE TALK ABOUT A BOOMING ECONOMY.
LET'S NOT, LET'S NOT DISCRIMINATE.
THEY NEED JOBS TOO NOW, OKAY, 500 FEET BETWEEN MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR AND ANOTHER 300 FEET BETWEEN MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR.
IN ADDITION, IT IS, UH, UH, LEMME GO BACK.
IT IS 300 FEET FOR SERVING ALCOHOL.
SO LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT DISTANCE LIMITATIONS DON'T EXIST.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ONES THAT DO.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M OKAY WITH MS. RUBY, MS. LINDA AND MS. BRENDA BEING A THOUSAND FEET AWAY FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD, A SCHOOL OR A CHURCH.
AND GUESS WHAT? I'M GONNA INVITE THEM INTO MY HOUSE TOO.
WHEN THEY GET HEALED, WHEN THEY ARE ABLE TO COME TO A COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO BE A DANGER TO SOCIETY, WHICH THE JUDGE HAS SAID THAT THEY WORK.
AND FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW, I DO CONSULTING FOR MENTAL HEALTH.
SO I AM NOT AGAINST THEM AS, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I EXTREMELY SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES, PTSD, TRAUMA IN HOMES, CHILD ABUSE, CHILD NEGLIGENCE.
SO ALL OF THAT STUFF I'M FOR, WE TALKED ABOUT THE STATE VERSUS THE LOCAL.
WE HAVE THE A TC ON THE STATE LEVEL.
WE HAVE THE A, B, C ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE STATE HAS MANDATES, GUESS, GUESS WHO ELSE DOES THE LOCAL HAS MANDATES TOO TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A PARISH AND HAVE THE AUTONOMY TO DETERMINE HOW WE WANT TO SERVE PEOPLE.
GUESS WHAT? LDH IS THE ONE THAT LICENSED HOSPITALS, RIGHT? BUT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME EDCS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
SO THERE IS APPROVAL ON THE STATE LEVEL.
THIS IS CONSTITUTIONALLY CORRECT AND THERE'S NO CONFLICTS WITH A DA AND I'M, I'M SUPPORTING THE DEFERRAL A HUNDRED PERCENT 'CAUSE ALL THIS STUFF WILL BE ANSWERED.
'CAUSE I ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS BEFORE.
THE ATTORNEY WAS NO LONGER WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I KNOW THE ANSWER FOR THEM.
SO I GOT A LOT OF NOTES HERE, Y'ALL.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HIT ALL OF 'EM.
SO LET ME TELL Y'ALL WHAT HAPPENED AT FOREST HEIGHTS.
SO MISS BRECKENRIDGE, SHE DOES A GREAT JOB OVER THERE.
THE MINUTE THAT THIS FACILITY CAME UP, WE HAD KIDS DROLL, WE HAD TEACHERS PUT IN THEIR TWO WEEK NOTICE.
WE HAD THE MOST HIGH PERFORMING BLUE RIBBON A PLUS SCHOOL, ONE OF THE TOP THREE IN THE PARISH, ONE OF THE TOP 10 IN THE STATE ABOUT THE CRUMBLE BECAUSE WE WERE MAKING THE DECISION FOR KIDS AND AFFECTING WHERE THEY LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED FROM THE STATE LEVEL IS THAT THEY WOULD'VE TO GO INTO LOCKDOWN WHEN THINGS WOULD HAPPEN NEXT DOOR.
THAT A THOUSAND FEET LIMITATION RESTRICTS THEIR ABILITY TO HAVE TO DO THAT AND ALLOWS THEM TO GO ON A CLASSROOM AS YOU AS NORMAL.
AND WE DID TALK ABOUT AZTEC COVE ON HOLLAND ROAD.
WE DID TALK ABOUT THE TIRE SHREDDER PLANT.
WE, WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE NEW DREAMS CLUB ON TOM DRIVE.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS IN HERE WHERE WE DIDN'T WANT THOSE THINGS AND WE CAN GUESS WHAT, WE CAN GET SUED FOR THOSE TWO.
'CAUSE WE CHOSE NOT TO GIVE A LIQUOR LICENSE TO A BUSINESS.
'CAUSE GUESS WHAT? IT HAD A BAD HISTORY OF OPERATING.
SO I, I WOULD SUPPORT AND I SUPPORT THE LAWSUIT.
I SUPPORTED COUNCILMAN DUNCAN.
IT WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR HIS DISTRICT.
GUESS WHAT? I SUPPORTED RODDY GOD DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY CLUB.
GUESS WHY? 'CAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR HIS DISTRICT.
I SUPPORTED COUNCILMAN CHARNA BANKS WITH THE TAR SHREDDER PLANK 'CAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR AND EVERYBODY UP HERE.
SO WE ALL HAVE ISSUES AND EMOTIONS THAT GO INTO THIS BECAUSE WE LOVE THE PEOPLE THAT PUT US IN OFFICE.
AND THESE ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE UP HERE.
WE ALL MAKE HARD, WE MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS FROM TIME TO TIME.
WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH EACH OTHER, BUT THEY LOVE THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
AND TODAY I'M ASKING 'EM TO LOVE MINE.
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AFFECTED BY THIS FACILITY, NOT THE PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T.AND FOR THAT REASON, UM, I WILL SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL.
'CAUSE I DO WANT THE PARISH ATTORNEY.
I THINK IT'S UNFAIR FOR DEANNE TO BE THROWN INTO THIS.
I'VE BEEN A LITTLE HARD ON GREG.
GREG'S BEEN HERE LONG, ABOUT A MONTH NOW, GREG AS LEAD.
UM, GIVE HIM TIME TO REALLY GET HIS, HE'S DRINKING THROUGH A FIRE HOSE RIGHT NOW.
SO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE DEEP DIVES THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO COME BACK AND MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A ON THE FLOOR TO DEFER THE ITEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER MO? YEAH, CAN I, I GOT COUNCIL MEMBER HU AROUND TO SPEAK, BUT I WANNA ASK YOU A QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE THE, THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS FOR A DEFERRAL FOR 30 DAYS.
BUT I THINK THOSE ALL THE DISCUSSION, EVERYTHING, IF I COULD AMEND THAT MOTION FOR 60, 60 DAYS, APPRECIATE, ALL RIGHT, 60 DAYS IS KEEP YOU SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON, UH, RYAN, IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND I GUESS IF, UH, GREG JUST BE CLOSE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA NEED GREG, BUT IF HE'D JUST BE CLOSE, UM, BRIAN WAS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THAT I, I THINK YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY THAT'S HERE, THE, THE BIG CONCERN IS IS THAT THE, THE, THE, THE FACILITY NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.
UM, YOU STATED EARLIER THAT IT CAN CONTINUE OR OPERATE, RIGHT? IT'S ESSENTIALLY GRANDFATHERED IN.
IF IT'S LEGALLY ESTABLISHED, IT WOULD BE OKAY.
UM, AND SO AS I'M READING THIS, AND PARTICULARLY IT'S SECTION 9.4 0.5, UH, SUBSECTION B WHERE IT SAYS SHALL BE LOCATED AT LEAST 1000 FEET FROM ANY PROPERTY CURRENTLY USED AS A SCHOOL PARK OR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
YOU FURTHER WENT TO DESCRIBE THE, THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FROM A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AS PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.
I I, I FIND THAT PARTICULARLY LIMITING.
SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE THAT HAVE A PARTICULAR CONCERN ABOUT THIS ONE PROPERTY, IT, IT REALLY STRIKES ME THAT THIS ONE PROPERTY, SINCE IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN, IF WE PASS THIS, THIS BECOMES THE, THE HOTSPOT.
THIS BECOMES THE, THIS BECOMES THE PLACE WHERE, WHERE THIS FACILITY'S GONNA BE.
I MEAN, I, I'M LOOKING AT, WHILE WE WERE SITTING HERE, I PULLED UP THE PROPERTY TAX ASSESSOR'S WEBSITE SO THAT I CAN MEASURE THE DISTANCE OF PROPERTY LINES FROM THE OLD GREENWELL SPRINGS HOSPITAL, UM, TO THE NEAREST RESIDENCES.
YOU CAN'T HARDLY GET ANYTHING ON THIS SITE, WHICH IS VERY RURAL.
UM, IT'S OUT IN UNINCORPORATED PART OF THE PARISH OR MAY BE TECHNICALLY BEING, BEING CENTRAL.
UM, BUT A VERY RURAL PART OF THE PARISH.
I MEAN, IT WAS HISTORICALLY THAT TYPE OF FACILITY AND, AND YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T FIND IT.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN IS WE'RE WE'RE SETTING THIS UP AS IF WE'RE DOING EVERYBODY HERE SOME KIND OF FAVOR.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE ARE.
I I THINK WE ARE EXTREMELY LIMITING.
I WAS JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK, HEY, HEY, I WANNA GIVE AN APPOINT.
WELL, I'M GONNA GIVE MY, MY POINT OF ORDER THAT I HAVE FLOOR, UH, AND FINISH MY THOUGHT AND THEN IF COUNCILMAN COLE WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
UM, BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT THIS ONE FACILITY WHERE THIS IS GONNA CONTINUE TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE I KNOW FOR MY DISTRICT, THERE'S NOWHERE IN MY DISTRICT WHERE YOU'VE GOT A THOUSAND FEET FROM A PROPERTY LINE OF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING TO, UH, TO A FACILITY.
UM, FURTHERMORE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LIMITING IT TO HC ONE, UH, AND THEN THE OTHER ZONING CLASSIFICATION, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT ANYWHERE.
SO IT, WE ARE SETTING IT UP AS IF WE'RE NOT BEING DISCRIMINATORY.
BUT THIS IS SO LIMITED, UM, THAT I I I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE BEING ANYTHING BUT DISCRIMINATORY.
UM, I I'M OPEN TO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THIS.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THOSE RESIDENTS.
I GET THE CRY THAT, UH, YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU WANNA SAY THIS CAN'T BE IN A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, I THINK WE COULD ALL GET BEHIND THAT REAL QUICK.
UM, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS WAY TOO FAR REACHING FOR ME.
I'LL SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL POINT.
YOU WANNA MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER NURSE? I, I DID.
AND DWIGHT, I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.
I WANTED TO, I DIDN'T WANNA CHANGE WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT THE LICENSE WAS NEVER PROVIDED.
SO IT DOES NOT, IT DOES NOT CONSIDER TO BE GRANDFATHER IN COUNCIL MEMBER.
YOU WANT COUNCIL MEMBER ADAMS? UM, SO BRIAN, THAT WAS MY, MY QUESTION FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE USING A PHRASE THAT YOU DON'T NORMALLY USE.
AND SO I, I FEEL, UM, YOU KEEP SAYING IF IT'S LEGALLY ESTABLISHED, DO YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT IT ISN'T LEGALLY ESTABLISHED?
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I DO NOT.SO I'M JUST, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU KEEP, YOU'VE NEVER USED THAT PHRASE BEFORE? UM, CAN THE PROOF WOULD BE ON THE, THE APPLICANT OR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY HAVE EITHER A PROPER LICENSE FROM THE PERMANENT OFFICE AND OR A PROPER LICENSE FROM THE STATE ESTABLISHING SUCH A FACILITY.
HAVE YOU BEEN A PART OF CONVERSATIONS DISCUSSING WHETHER IT WAS LEGALLY ESTABLISHED OR NOT? IS THAT WHY YOU'RE QUALIFIED? THERE'S QUESTIONS WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE, THEY HAVE BEEN, BUT I, I I TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DO NOT KNOW.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A, A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DEFER THE ITEM, UH, FOR 60 DAYS.
MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOOCH, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NOEL.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE DEFERRAL? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE DEFERRAL? YES, THERE ARE OBJECTIONS TO THE DEFERRAL.
WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE MACHINES.
WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE MACHINES.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE OPENING THE MACHINES TO DEFER THE ITEM FOR 60 DAYS TO MAY 15TH.
COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN, YOU WANT TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, THERE'S THE MOTION FAILED.
NOW JUSTIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US WHERE WE ARE? WE ONLY HAVE ONE MOTION MADE.
SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER MOTION, WE DIDN'T HAVE A MOTION PASSED.
SO THE ITEM ESSENTIALLY FAILS.
IF NO OTHER MOTION IS MADE, IT WOULD'VE TO BE RE REINTRODUCED.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REINTRODUCED UNDER A DIFFERENT FORMAT OR THE EXACT SAME THING COULD COME BACK AND AND BE REINTRODUCED IN TWO WEEKS, HYPOTHETICALLY, IN MY UNDERSTANDING IT COULD BE REINTRODUCED THE SAME WAY IT IS NOW.
ALRIGHT, WELL HAVING SAID THAT, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER MOTIONS IS THERE MO GO AHEAD.
IT CAN BE REINTRODUCED AS IT IS NOW AND OR CHANGED.
IS THERE, UH, RYAN, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? OKAY.
RYAN SHOOK HIS HEAD LIKE, HELL NAH.
I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TODAY TO SUPPORT THE ITEM.
UH, IF WE WILL COME BACK, COME BACK UP AT SOME POINT AND HOPEFULLY AT THAT POINT WE'LL GET THE SUPPORT, WHICH IT DYING TODAY IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A DEFERRAL.
I'LL BRING IT UP BACK UP THE SAME WAY.
GIVE US TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT AS A BODY AND PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT PROVIDES A COLLECTIVE VIEW TO SERVICE THE ENTIRE MARRIAGE.
BUT I DO WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR SHOWING UP TODAY.
SO MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER COLEMAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING UP.