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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR TONIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
[ROLL CALL]
TIME, WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL.AND COMMISSIONER SCROGGS HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 15TH MEETING? SO MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.
THE MINUTES HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED.
IS THERE ALSO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 22ND SPECIAL MEETING? MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FOWLER.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THESE MINUTES? SAY NONE.
THOSE MINUTES HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED.
AT THIS TIME OUR LAST VICE CHAIRMAN
[RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS]
GROUT TO READ IN THE RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING INTERESTED MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON AN ITEM FROM THIS AGENDA, A COMMENT IN PERSON AT CITY HALL TO TWO TWO ST.
LOUIS STREET, THIRD FLOOR ROOM 3 48.
DURING THE MEETING, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM SHOULD REFER TO A MEETING AGENDA AND COMPLETE THE NECESSARY INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING BY FILLING OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD INDICATING WHICH ITEM YOU WISH TO SPEAK, UH, TO WISH YOU WISH TO SPEAK AND PLACE IT IN THE LOCATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
APPLICANT AND APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPOSAL WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A TOTAL OR COMBINED PERIOD OF NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
PROPONENTS WILL SPEAK AND THEN THE OPPONENTS.
EACH SPEAKER WILL NOT BE ALLOWED MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
SPEAKERS ARE REQUESTED TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS BY AVOIDING DUPLICATION OF THEIR PRESENTATIONS.
APPLICANT WILL BE ALLOWED A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
OPPONENTS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO REBUT ITEMS PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF WILL NOT HAVE TIME ALLOCATED FOR SPEAKING UNLESS THERE IS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AT THE MEETING WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
IN SUCH CASES, THE PROPOSAL WILL FOLLOW THE STANDARD PROCEDURE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VICE CHAIRMAN GRL.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.MR. BALDWIN CONSENT ITEMS FOR DEFERRAL.
ITEM 10 S 2 24 MOLLY LEE MANOR PROPOSED MAJOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITH PUBLIC STREETS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MOLLY LEE DRIVE WEST OF EILEEN DRIVE.
ITEM 12 WT 1 24 VERIZON WIRELESS FACILITY.
PROPOSED WIRELESS COMMUNICATION TOWER WITH SETBACK WAIVER LOCATED AT ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH FLANNERY ROAD, NORTH OF FLORIDA BOULEVARD.
ITEM 3 10 20 24 4 4 9 4 3 5 4 2 7 4 2 1 AND FOUR 15 NORTH 24TH STREET TO REZO PROPERTY FROM INFILL SMALL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT I BUD TO LIMITED RESIDENTIAL.
A 3.1 LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH 24TH STREET, SOUTH OF MAIN STREET.
ITEM FOUR, CASE 21 24, 31 51 COLLEGE DRIVE, SUITE D TO REZONED PROPERTY FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL TWO HC TWO TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR LOUNGE CB TWO LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF COLLEGE DRIVE SOUTH OF CONCORD AVENUE.
ITEM FIVE CASE 22 24 46 19 BENNINGTON AVENUE TO REZO PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BAR LOUNGE CB TWO AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL C TWO TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BENNINGTON AVENUE EAST OF JAMESTOWN AVENUE.
ITEM SIX CASE 23 24 52 52 SOUTH SHERWOOD FOREST BOULEVARD TO REZO PROPERTY FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL C TWO TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE RESTAURANT CB ONE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH SHERWOOD FOREST BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF SHERWOOD FOREST COURT.
ITEM SEVEN CASE 24 24 32 72 HIGHLAND ROAD TO REZO PROPERTY FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL C TWO TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BARN LOUNGE CB TWO LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF HIGHLAND ROAD NORTH OF STATE STREET.
ITEM NINE, PUT 2 0 0 ELITE TRAINING ACADEMY BURBANK UNIVERSITY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVISION TWO.
PROPOSED MOVEMENT OF SIGNAGE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BURBANK DRIVE WEST OF LEE DRIVE.
ITEM 13 S SP 5 24 HAMPTON INN AND SUITES 79 31 SUMMA AVENUE.
PROPOSED HOTEL LOCATED UP THE NORTH SIDE OF HU OF SUMMA AVENUE EAST OF EAST S IN LANE PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT ALL THESE ITEMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC TO PULL ITEM THREE, CASE 2024 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE HEARD IN THE REGULAR AGENDA ORDER.
THANK YOU COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT ARE TO BE TAKEN WITH ONE VOTE.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAVE AN ITEM THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT
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AGENDA AS HEARD AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA? THIS IS, UH, IN THE ADDITION TO ITEM NUMBER THREE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REQUESTED TO BE PULLED.ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? IS THERE SECOND? SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER ELLEN, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, THESE ITEMS HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE
[3. Case 20-24 449, 435, 427, 421 and 415 North 24th Street]
REGULAR AGENDA BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST ITEM THAT THAT WAS JUST PULLED.ITEM NUMBER THREE, CASE 20 24 4 4 9 4 3 5 4 2 7 4 2 1 AND 4 1 5 NORTH 24TH STREET CASE 20 24 4 4 9 4 3 5 4 2 7 4 2 1 AND FOUR 15 NORTH 24TH STREET.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH 24TH STREET SOUTH OF MAIN STREET COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 COLEMAN.
THE APPLICANT IS SHEA SULLIVAN.
FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS INFILL SMALL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ICE BUD WITH A REQUESTED ZONING OF LIMITED RESIDENTIAL A 3.1 CASE 20 24 4 4 9 4 3 5 4 2 7 4 2 1 AND FOUR 15 NORTH 24TH STREET.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA OF A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS COMMISSION MEMBERS.
AT, AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
RONNIE HOWARD OF RONNIE HOWARD CONSTRUCTION.
I'M REPRESENTING, UM, UM, MID-CITY REDEVELOPMENT GROUP.
WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, HAVE, UH, UH, ZONING REQUESTS EARLIER IN THEIR PROJECT.
UH, IT WAS CHANGED TO AN ICE BUD AND UNDER STARTING THE PROJECT WHEN I WAS ER AWARDED THE CONTRACT THAT IT WAS CHANGED FROM.
UH, WE HEARD THAT THE, UH, ICE BUD HAD EXPIRED, SO WE'RE SIMPLY RE REQUESTING IT TO, UH, FOR A A THREE ONE ZONING AS OPPOSED TO THE ICE BUD ACCOMMODATE THE FOUR HOMES THAT WE'VE, UH, APPLIED, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, UM, PERMITS FOR.
SO BASICALLY PRETTY MUCH SPELLED OUT FROM WHAT IT IS.
WE'RE GOING FROM AN ASH BUD BACK TO 8 3 1.
WE HAVE ONE CARD AND OPPOSITION, UH, THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
MY ADDRESS IS 25 25 MAIN STREET.
I MOVED OVER WITH MY MOM AND MY MOM GOT REMARRIED IN 1970.
I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
USED TO PLAY UP AND DOWN ALL THE STREETS AND EVERYTHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MATTER OF FACT, I USED TO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING UP BY MISS CITY.
BACK THEN, THEY DEATH FROM 1982 TO 2010.
WHO WOULD KNOW BETTER DIVIDED THAN THAN ME.
UH, THE STREET, THE, THE 20 NORTH.
IT STARTS OFF AT NORTH 25TH STREET.
IT IS ALL FLAT ALL THE WAY TO TO NORTH 25TH STREET.
THEN WE HAVE A ANY COMES INTO A DEAD SLOPE FROM NORTH 25TH STREET TO NORTH 24TH STREET, NORTH 23RD STREET.
AND ANYWAY, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS THERE.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY THEY, WE NEVER HAD PROBLEMS THERE.
OKAY? MATTER OF FACT, I WAS LIVED AT 4 22 AND FOUR 20 NORTH 24TH STREET ON THE SAME PROPERTY.
ONE WAS A GARAGE, ONE WAS A REGULAR FOREMAN.
I WAS A TOW TRUCK OPERATOR BACK THEN FOR ROAD RUNNING RECORD SERVICE.
IT WAS A GOOD THING I HAD A TOW TRUCK TO GET IN AND OUT.
SOMETIMES WHEN THE GROUND IS SATURATED, IT'S BEEN RAINING FOR A WHILE, SATURATED.
OKAY? AND I WILL TELL YOU, SOME YEARS AGO THEY CAME THROUGH THERE, UH, A COMPANY FROM PON OVER THERE AND HAD THE CONTRACT.
THEY PUT NEW DRAINAGE IN ON CONNELL STREET, ON
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LAUREL STREET, ON LAUREL STREET, ALL THE WAY TO CONNELL STREET.OKAY? ON, I MEAN, ON LAUREL STREET, ON CONNELL STREET AND NORTH 23RD STREET.
THEY PUT NEW SIDEWALKS IN ON LAUREL STREET ALL THE WAY DOWN AND PUT NEW DRAIN BOXES.
WHEN THEY GOT DOWN TO THE END, WHEN THEY GOT DOWN TO THE END AT NORTH 23RD STREET, THE DEAD END LORD, DEAD END AND RIGHT THERE, OKAY? PAST THIS PAST 23RD STREET WHEN MR. BELMAN AND THEM WENT TO HOOK UP THE PIPES.
THEY KEPT THEIR MACHINES ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I HAD BY MY HOUSE THERE, AND I USED TO CHARGE UP THERE, BANG FOR THEM.
YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS, SIR.
ANYWAY, SO I'M, I'M NOT FOR IT.
I THINK THERE'S NO DRAINAGE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PLACE.
FROM MAIN STREET TO NO DRAINAGE FROM MAIN STREET, I MEAN FROM MAIN STREET TO LIKE FLORIDA BOULEVARD AND ON ON THAT SIDE, THE STREET.
AND THE LADY BEHIND, BEHIND THERE, MS. SHIRLEY JOHNSON, SHE'S DISABLED.
SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND JUST SAY THEY BUILT THE HOUSES.
OKAY, SIR, I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME IS UP.
CAN I SAY JUST, THEY BUILT THE HOUSES FOUR FOOT UP.
WHEN YOU PUT DIRT, I WENT, I'M SORRY.
I'M GONNA ASK, HAVE TO ASK YOU TO STEP AWAY FROM THE PODIUM.
THAT WAS OUR ONLY SPEAKER CORD, SO I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK, UH, FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK AGAIN, SIR? DO YOU WISH TO ADDRESS ANYTHING? NOT REALLY.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH WE'RE JUST KIND OF CHANGING THAT ZONING JUST TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE'RE DOING BASICALLY.
AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, WOULD YOU MIND, UH, QUICKLY JUST KIND OF RECAPPING, UH, VERY BRIEFLY THE HISTORY AND THE PROXIMITY OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORING ZONING? CERTAINLY, UH, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A REZONING REQUEST.
UH, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS IUD, AN INFILL SMALL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS VALID FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS, AND SINCE HAS EXPIRED, THE, THE ZONING OF IUD REMAINS ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THE REQUEST HERE IS, UH, FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, SINCE THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ON THE PROPERTY NOW WITH THE EXPIRED OS BUDD IS TO REZONE IT BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ZONING DISTRICT OF A 3.1.
AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE VICINITY MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED AS PART OF THE STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN SEE PREDOMINANTLY, UM, MOST OF THE BLOCKS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, INCLUDING THIS SPECIFIC BLOCK, ARE PREDOMINANTLY ALREADY ZONED A 3.1.
AND THAT'S ALL THE REQUEST, UH, THIS EVENING IS, IS TO, TO REZONE IT BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ZONING.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS MADE THIS EVENING BY THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE REGARDING DRAINAGE AND FLOODING CONCERNS ON THE PROPERTY.
I CAN TELL YOU, AS PART OF THE PREVIOUS ICE FLOOD, THERE WAS A DRAINAGE IMPACT STUDY IN A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS REQUIRED WITH THAT.
UH, SINCE THEN, SINCE 2019, THE, THE CITY PARISH HAS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED, UM, OUR STORMWATER REGULATIONS AND DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE PERMIT OFFICE AND THE SUBDIVISION ENGINEERING OFFICE BEFORE THERE'S ANY ACTIVE PERMITS ON THE PROPERTY, IF THERE'S ANY FILL THAT'S BROUGHT IN, THERE WILL BE, UH, DETAILS LOOKED AT TO, TO ENSURE THAT ADDITIONAL FLOODING, UH, IS ADDRESSED AND THAT THAT SITUATION DOES NOT, UM, DOES NOT, IS IMPROVED AND, AND ISN'T MAKING WORSE.
SO, SO THE APPLICANT WILL, WILL, UH, BE HELD BY THOSE NEW HIGHER STANDARDS IN THE PERMIT OFFICE WILL WORK TO ENSURE IT.
UH, THE REQUEST THIS EVENING, AGAIN, IS JUST A CHANGE BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ZONING.
UM, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS WITH THIS REZONING REQUEST.
THERE'LL BE INSURED AT THE NEXT LEVEL AT THE PERMITTING STAGE.
THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION DIRECT TO HOLCOMB COMMISSION MEMBERS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? MR. HOWARD, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? AND, AND THIS IS MORE FOR A PERSONAL PREFERENCE OR A PERSONAL POINT OF ORDER.
UH, WHO IS THE OWNER OR WHO IS THE DEVELOPER? UH, MID, UH, CITY REDEVELOPMENT GROUP.
DIFFERENT FROM, UH, DIFFERENT ME, RIGHT? YES, IT IS.
OKAY, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? MOTIONS VICE, UH, EXCUSE ME.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE OR BELIEVE THAT MOTION RECEIVED A SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.
[8. SNC-1-24 Port Hudson-Pride Road to Pride-Port Hudson Road]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, SNC 1 24 PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD TO PRIDE.PORT HUDSON ROAD, SNC 1 24 PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD TO PRIDE.
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ROAD, PROPOSED STREET NAME CHANGE FOR PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD, LOCATED EAST OF OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY AND WEST OF LIBERTY ROAD PRIDE BAYWOOD ROAD COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE NOEL.THE REASON FOR THE STREET NAME CHANGE IS TO CLARIFY CONFLICTING STREET NAMES AND SIGNAGE ALONG CORRIDOR TO ASSIST WITH BETTER EMERGENCY AND DELIVERY SERVICES.
SNC 1 24 PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD PRIDE PORT HUDSON ROAD.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC FOR PLANNING COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION.
WE'VE RECEIVED FIVE MESSAGES IN SUPPORT AND THREE MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION.
ALSO, THE CITY OF ZACHARY PROVIDED A MESSAGE OF NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST.
COMMISSION MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WOULD INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD OF 15 MINUTES.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON.
WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE SOMEONE HERE.
OKAY, WELL, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
I I, REAL QUICK, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.
THE APPLICANT ON THIS STREET NAME CHANGE IS MAYOR, PRESIDENT SHARON WESTON BROOME AND COUNCILMAN BRANDON NOEL.
UM, THAT'S WHO ACTUALLY FILED THIS APPLICATION FOR THE STREET NAME CHANGE.
IF I CAN JUST GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THEN I THINK WILL BE HELPFUL.
FOR THE COMMISSION, THANK TO CONSIDER AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS.
THE STREET NAME CHANGE SPANS BOTH EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH BOUNDARIES AND WITHIN THE INCORPORATED CITY LIMITS OF ZACHARY.
AS I STATED, PROVIDED NO OBJECTION TO THE STREET NAME CHANGE, THE CURRENT STREET DESIGNATION OF PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL OFFICIAL ROADMAP FOR THE PARISH WAS PREPARED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE IN 1958.
SINCE THEN, ORDINANCES GRANTING RIGHT AWAY PLANK ROAD TO LIBERTY ROAD FROM PROPERTY OWNERS IN 1961.
REFER TO THE STREET AS PRIDE PORT HUDSON ROAD.
TWO STREET SIGNS WITHIN ZACHARY SUBDIVISIONS, RICHLAND AND PIN.
OAK LAKE ALREADY SHOW PRIDE PORT HUDSON ROAD.
THE ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS THE INCONSISTENT STREET NAMES IS WITH AN ORDINANCE.
AND IT WAS DETERMINED THE BEST PRACTICE TO FOLLOW THE STREET NAME CHANGE PROCESS TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE.
IF THE STREET NAME IS CHANGED, THE US POSTAL SERVICE WILL MAINTAIN BOTH STREET NAMES IN THEIR DATABASE AND CONTINUE TO ALLOW MAIL SERVICE TO ALL EFFECTIVE ADDRESSES.
AGAIN, THE ACTION TONIGHT IS SIMPLY A RECOMMENDATION BY THIS BODY.
THE STREET NAME CHANGE OFFICIALLY WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL AND THAT THAT MEETING IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR, UH, JUNE 19TH BY THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO THE SPEAKER CARDS.
I BELIEVE THE SPEAKER CARDS WE HAVE ARE FOR OPPOSITION.
OUR FIRST CARD IS FOR FANNIE WALLACE.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT 1 2 0 4 1 FOOT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD.
IT'S BETWEEN PLANK ROAD AND TUCKER ROAD.
WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, WITH THE, UH, WITH, WITH MEDICALS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.
WE GET EVERYTHING ON TIME, ON MAIL.
BUT TODAY, I, UH, PHYSICALLY GOT IN MY CAR, WENT FROM SCENIC HIGHWAY TO TO, UH, LIBERTY ROAD.
LIKE YOU SAID, ONLY TWO INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S PORT HU, WHERE THERE'S PRIOR PORT HUDSON THAT'S IN THE TWO, UH, FAIRLY BUILT SUBDIVISION.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS PORT HUDSON PRIDE.
AND I HAVE WRITTEN PROOF OF MY, OF, OF WHAT I SAW.
AND IF I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DO THIS, BUT I, I CAN GIVE COPIES AND I I I'LL POSE CHANGING THE NAME BECAUSE AS FAR AS CHANGING THE NAME BECAUSE OF TWO INSTANCES DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE GOT, UH, IN OTHER WORDS, WE SUPPOSED TO BE IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA.
UH, ANYTHING THAT WOULD SHOW US THAT BY CHANGING NAME WILL BENEFIT US, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE COMING FROM, UH, OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY TO MILLS AVENUE AND WE COMING FROM MILLS AVENUE TO, UH, TO RICHMOND AVENUE, BUT IN RICHMOND AVENUE TO OAK IS PRIDE.
UH, PRIDE PUT HUDSON NOW PUT US IN PRIDE.
THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO INSTANCES.
THESE TWO SUBDIVISIONS ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
EVERYTHING ELSE FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER IS PUT HUDSON PRIDE.
SO WHY IS THE CHANGE WHAT PROMPTED THE CHANGE? AND Y'ALL SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT MEDICALS? UH, WITH,
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WITH THE FIRST RESPONDENT, WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, SO I, I DON'T EVEN SEE A NEED FOR, FOR A CHANGE IN THIS.AND, AND WHEN I CALLED MY COUNCILMAN OFFICE, I WAS TOLD THAT THIS BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE DIDN'T KNOW.
WE, WE LIVE IN THE AREA WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE CONTACT WITH ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WHEN, WHEN WE GOT THIS, THIS WAS A, WAS A SURPRISE TO US.
SO I, LIKE I SAID, I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF.
EAST STREET FROM OLD CENIC HIGHWAY TO LIBERTY ROAD IS WRITTEN DOWN HERE.
AND, AND IT'S TELLING ME FROM, FROM OLD CENIC HIGHWAY TO LIBERTY ROAD, THAT ALL OF IT IS PORT HUSS AND PRIDE, NOT PRIDE PORT HUSS ON ONLY THE TWO INCIDENTS.
YOU HAVE ABOUT 25 SECONDS, MA'AM.
BEG PARDON? ABOUT 25 SECONDS LEFT.
BUT, BUT I, I OPPOSED THIS BECAUSE I HAD WRITTEN PROOF THAT THE STREET NAME IS PORT HUSS PRIDE, NOT PRIDE.
OUR NEXT COURT IS FOR GARY PRICE.
GOT THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, SIR.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN LIVING ON THAT ROAD SINCE, UH, WELL DURING RECONSTRUCTION IN THE 1860S, THEY SETTLED THIS LAND OUT THERE AND I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE LAST ONES STILL THERE.
MY CONCERN IS SOME OF THE PAPERWORK THAT I HAVE GO BACK TO THE LATE 1860S WHEN IT WAS OPEN RANGE IS BASICALLY WAGON RUTS THROUGH THE WOODS AND CROSSING CREEKS.
THE ROAD FROM BAYWOOD TO PRIDE AT SANDY CREEK WAS A PRIDE BAYWOOD ROAD AND IT STILL IS CALLED THAT BY EVERYONE THAT LIVES THERE.
AND FROM PRIDE TO HIGHWAY 19, IT WAS A PRIDE PORT HUDSON ROAD.
AND THEN WHEN FROM HIGHWAY 19 TO CENIC HIGHWAY, THAT WAS JUST A MUDDY RUT.
THROUGH THAT SWAMP THERE WAS A PRIDE PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD.
NOW THAT IS FROM PHOTOGRAPHS OF CIVIL WAR MAPS.
AND TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE EVER CONTESTED THAT FOR SOME REASON, UH, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE GOOGLE GPS ENTERED INTO AND HAS CREATED A SITUATION THAT HAS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, HAS MANIFEST NATURAL STUPIDITY.
WHAT INTELLECTUAL ANSWER CAN YOU GIVE ME THAT WOULD BENEFIT CHANGING SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM TO ANYONE? AND ALONG WITH THAT, YOU CALL, GET AN AMAZON DELIVERY, TRY TO GET A UPS DELIVERY.
I KNOW A NUMBER OF THESE FIRST RESPONDERS AND BOYS THAT ANSWERED ALL THESE PROBLEMS. YOU CALL NINE ONE ONE, YOU SOMEONE ANSWERS THE PHONE.
I THINK THEY'RE ON HARDING BOULEVARD.
FIRST THING THEY ASK IS YOUR PHYSICAL 9 1 1 ADDRESS.
THOSE BOYS GET IN THERE AND PUNCH IT IN THE AMBULANCE.
NOW, WHO OUGHT TO BE HAPPY WITH SOMEONE DYING? BECAUSE THEY ALLOWED SOMEONE THAT COULD NOT MANIPULATE AND CORRECT SOFTWARE TO THE POINT THAT THEY'RE GONNA LET PEOPLE DIE JUST FOR THE SMUG REASON THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT THIS.
NOW, IS THERE ANY QUESTION? AM I CLARIFIED OR CONFUSED ANYTHING? I'M LOOKING FOR AN INTELLECTUAL RESPONSE AS TO WHY THERE'S SO MUCH CONFUSION.
SIR, YOU HAVE ABOUT WITH THE MODERN WORLD.
SIR, YOU HAVE ABOUT 20 SECONDS AND IT'S NOT QUESTION ANSWERS.
I'M STILL WAITING ON AN ANSWER, SIR.
HIS COMMENTS ARE ONLY THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT COURT IS FOR, IS IT DONNA LO LONEY? YEAH, THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE ONE MILE FROM THE PRIDE POST OFFICE.
NO ONE HAS EVER TOLD OR CONTACTED THE PRIDE PO POST OFFICE MASTER THE MASTER AND TOLD THEM THAT THAT ROAD IS PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD.
I SAID, WHAT ROAD IS THAT OUT THERE? SHE SAID, PRIDE PORT HUDSON ROAD.
SHE SAID, BUT IF YOUR MAIL DOES COME FOR HUDSON PRIDE, WELL THEN WE WILL MAIL IT TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, WE WILL PUT IT IN YOUR MAILBOX.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS I NEVER GOT UP PACKET U UH, UPS PACKAGES OR ANY OTHER PACKAGES FROM ANYTHING I'VE ORDERED.
NO ONE AROUND ME HAS A CARPORT THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT.
SO THEN I SPEND MY TIME TRYING TO GET MY MONEY BACK OR EITHER TRYING TO REORDER AND GET MY PACKAGES.
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IT IS BEEN LIKE THIS.AND SINCE Y'ALL PUT THE SIGN UP THERE SAYING IT'S FORT HUDSON PRIDE, I END UP HAVE, I HAVE RELATIVES ON TUCKER ROAD.
I SEND EVERYTHING SEVEN MILES AWAY.
I DRIVE OVER THERE AND GET MY PACKAGES.
I DO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, THEIR PACKAGES ARE DELIVERED MY HOUSE.
UM, WHENEVER WE WRITE TO OUR SENATORS AND HASSLE OF REPRESENTATIVES UP IN WASHINGTON, DC IF YOU DON'T PUT BRIAN FORD HUDSON, IT'S KICKED BACK.
YOU CAN'T EMAIL THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT IN THEIR SOFTWARE.
IF I PUT FOR HUDSON PRIDE, IT'S KICKED OUT.
THE ONLY WAY I CAN WRITE TO THEM EMAILS IS BY PUTTING PRIDE FORD HUDSON ROAD, ANOTHER FEDERAL AGENCY THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING.
BILL IS SENT TO MY HOUSE EVERY MONTH.
THE MAN CALLS ME, SUPPOSED TO BE AT MY HOUSE.
HE IS IN ZACHARY ON THE OTHER END DOWN THERE.
IT USED TO BE THAT END OF THE ROAD WAS PORT HUDSON PRIDE.
IT USED TO BE PRIDE PORT HUDSON ON OUR END.
SO WHO IS 9 1 1? GOING TO MY NEIGHBOR, UM, AS A HOTSHOT DRIVER, HE DRIVES FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
HIS ADDRESS IS PRIDE PORT HUDSON OR PORT HUDSON PRIDE IN SLAUGHTER.
HE LIVES LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE POST OFFICE.
THERE IS A LOT BIG MIXED UP ON WHATEVER COMPUTER PROGRAM Y'ALL ARE USING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT THIS WHOLE TIME IT'S BEEN TERRIBLE TRYING TO LIVE OUT THERE.
AND WE ARE AN UNINCORPORATED AREA.
AND UM, I DID GO BACK AND PULL, UH, INFORMATION FROM THE PRIDE VILLE LIBRARY THAT IN 1920 THEY BOUGHT, PEOPLE BOUGHT LAND TO MAKE THE EAST SIDE OF PRIDE.
SO THAT COULD TAKE THE ONE ROOM SCHOOLS AND CONSOLIDATE 'EM RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT WAS BACK IN THE TWENTIES AND THIRTIES.
SO HOW FAR DO WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO PROVE THAT THAT WAS PRAT PORT HUDSON ROAD.
I GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO BRANDON.
BRANDON'S NOT HERE, BUT HE GOT THE INFORMATION OF WHAT HE DID WITH IT.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT HE HAD THE MAN'S NAME TO GIVE IT TO.
SO I WON'T THAT JUST THAT PART FROM 19 TO PRIDE, TO STAY PRIDE PORT HUDSON? YES, MA'AM.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR V FORBES.
YEAH, THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
MY REQUEST IS FROM PRIDE TO HIGHWAY 19 TO BE PRIDE PORT HUDSON FROM 19 ON OUT TO BE PORT HUDSON PRIDE.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR ROBERT WALLACE.
OUR LAST CARD IS FOR CHARLES THOMPSON.
MR. THOMPSON, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
4 2 2 5 PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD.
SO I'VE NEVER HAD TROUBLE GETTING PACKAGES.
I'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING TROUBLE GETTING ANYTHING DELIVERED, AND I TAKE A BIG OPPOSITION TO THE, WHEN I READ THROUGH THE PERSPECTIVE OR WHATEVER WAS PUBLISHED ABOUT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A BIG BURDEN FOR PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR ADDRESS.
IT'S A HUGE BURDEN WHEN YOU ELECT TO MOVE TO A NEW HOUSE.
YOU ACCEPT THE BURDEN OF CHANGING PHONE, CHANGING ADDRESS, CHANGING YOUR GAS, CHANGING YOUR CABLE, CHANGING YOUR CREDIT CARDS.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 20 YEARS AND HAVE NEVER HAD A TROUBLE.
I HAVE 150 FIRST COUSINS ALONE ON MY MOM'S SIDE.
I HAVE MULTIPLE BUSINESS CONTACTS.
I HAVE MULTIPLE L LCS THAT I WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE ALL OF THE UTILITIES, ALL OF MY CREDIT CARDS, UH, MY PROPERTIES THAT I LIVED.
UH, I MEAN, IT'S JUST AN ENDLESS SERIES OF THINGS THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GO AND CHANGE ADDRESS IF Y'ALL DO THIS, IT, THIS IS A, THIS IS A BURDEN.
IT'S BEEN NAMED THIS WAY FOR GREATER THAN 20 YEARS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WANT TO CHANGE THE NAME OF PR, UH, PORT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD.
SINCE THE APPLICANT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR A REBUTTAL, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.
AND COMMISSIONERS BEFORE, UH, ASKING FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'LL, UH, ASK DIRECTOR HOLCOMB.
UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, SOME CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT FROM, UH, THE CITIZENS THAT WERE ABLE TO, UH, ATTEND HERE TONIGHT.
UH, THROUGH YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, MAYOR PRESIDENT'S OFFICE OR COUNCILMAN NOEL, UH, COULD YOU JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY TOUCH ON OR, OR REITERATE SOME POINTS AS TO WHY THEY'RE BRINGING, UH, THIS CHANGE,
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WHY THEY THINK THAT THIS CHANGE IS NECESSARY? SURE.UH, THE, THE OVERWHELMING, UM, COMMENTS THAT WE, WE'VE RECEIVED, UM, BOTH THROUGH THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, IS THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM IS, IS TO ADDRESS INCONSISTENCIES THROUGHOUT THIS SPAN.
THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC ORDINANCES GOING BACK TO THE SIXTIES, RENAMING A LARGE PORTION OF IT FROM PLANK TO LIBERTY, UM, TO CURRENTLY PRIDE PORT HUDSON ROAD.
UH, THERE'S INCONSISTENCIES ON EXISTING SIGNAGE, UH, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO CLARIFY THAT AND HAVE ONE CONSISTENT NAME CHANGE, UH, IN ALL THE DATABASES AND THE SIGNAGE MOVING FORWARD.
AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION AND ONLY A RECOMMENDATION MADE ONTO COUNSEL.
IT WOULD REQUIRE COUNSEL APPROVAL TO OFFICIALLY CHANGE THE NAME AND THE SIGNAGE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, THAT THERE WAS, UH, OBVIOUSLY CONCERNS MADE ABOUT, UH, OR RATHER, THERE WERE NOTES MADE ABOUT THERE BEING THERE NOT BEING ANY EXISTING ISSUES AS FAR AS EMT FIRST RESPONDER MAIL.
DO YOU, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY, THIS WOULD CREATE ANY ISSUES IN THOSE AREAS ONCE AN ORDINANCE IS, IS CREATED AND AN OFFICIAL STREET NAME CHANGE CLARIFIES THE ENTIRE SPAN OR A PORTION OF THE SPAN TO BE RENAMED? PART OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH IS WE HAVE TO SEND OFFICIAL NOTICE ALONG WITH THE ORDINANCE AND ORDINANCE NUMBER TO A VARIETY OF, UH, AGENCIES THAT INCLUDES ALL FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN ZACHARY, THE UNINCORPORATED A AREAS AND CITY OF BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS, POST OFFICE, OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION, ALL UTILITY COMPANIES AND ADDITIONAL NOTIFICATIONS TO THE REGISTER OF VOTER.
THEY HAVE A DATABASE THAT'S UPDATED WHEN OFFICIAL ACTION IS TAKEN.
THE ISSUE IS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND DECADES, THIS STREET HISTORICALLY HAS, HAS HAD A VARIETY OF STREET NAME CHANGES.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SPEAK TO.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN NOEL, WHO UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.
UH, COULD GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND IF AND WHEN THIS MAKES IT TO THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T SPEAK OUTTA TERM.
WE, WE'LL TRY TO MAINTAIN ORDER IN THIS MEETING.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION.
SO THIS QUESTION, COMMISSIONER BANKS, IS YOUR MICHAEL IN IN MORE SO IN, UM, IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH AND PROBABLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF LOUISIANA.
A LOT OF TIMES STREET NAMES OR, UM, SPECIFIC TO, YOU KNOW, A FAMILY OR CULTURE OF SOMETHING HISTORICAL THAT HAS HAPPENED.
AND, UH, WHAT I FOUND IS FOR THAT REASON, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE SHOULD ALL WAYS, UM, BRING IT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAN WE HAVE.
AND I, UM, FOUND THAT TO BE TRUE IN, UM, NAME CHANGES AND FIND OUT IT WAS AFTER A PARTICULAR FAMILY THAT I WASN'T AWARE.
UM, I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ANOTHER THING, WHENEVER THERE'S CONTROVERSY, THE QUESTION THAT I ALWAYS ASK IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS EVER A MEETING, UM, WHICH I THINK SHOULD ALWAYS HAPPEN IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
UM, BUT SOMEONE DID ALLUDE TO MAKING A PHONE CALL AND THEM JUST SAYING THAT, UM, IT'S BEEN OUT THERE.
AND I THINK THAT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE, THAT'S LIKE THE EXCUSE THAT WE SHOULD NEVER, NEVER USE.
UM, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, UH, THROUGHOUT OUR PARISH, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE WOULD CHANGE THE NAME.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF, IF YOU THINK ABOUT COLLEGE DRIVE AT, UH, IT'S COLLEGE DRIVE AND FROM GOVERNMENT OR, UH, JEFFERSON, BUT THEN WHEN YOU CHANGE OVER PERKINS ROAD, IT BECOMES LEE DRIVE.
UM, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, FORD STREET, I THINK WHEN YOU CROSS OVER FORD STREET, IT MAY COME TO 70 OFF PLANK ROAD, IT BECOMES 72ND.
SO THESE ARE NOT, THESE ARE NOT THINGS THAT ARE IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE NORM, ESPECIALLY A STREET AS LONG AS PRIDE PORT HUDSON, PORT HUDSON PRIDE, WHERE I ASSUME THIS NAME CHANGE.
UM, IT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE CUTOFF THAT, WHERE THE CHANGES OVER WHAT STREET? HIGHWAY 19.
SO, I MEAN, WE ARE, WE ARE CROSSING PLANK ROAD TO OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY.
THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON AND I THINK IT IS, UH, OVERLY BURDENSOME
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FOR THE, UM, THE PERSONS THAT THAT LIVE, WORK PLAY.I THINK IN, UH, COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS, IF YOU LIVE IN THE AREA, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, IT, IT, IT, THEY'VE ALREADY SHOWN THAT HISTORICALLY THIS HAS GONE BACK, YOU KNOW, WHAT, 200 YEARS AGO OR BEFORE WE GOT A CITY PARISH PROBABLY.
SO FOR MEN, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT I HAVE RELATIVES WHO, UH, LIVE IN ALL OF THESE AREAS OF PRIDE PORT HUDSON, UM, I KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CHANGING BASED ON THE CONVENIENCE AND THE WHIM OF PERSONS FOR THE SAKE OF CONSISTENCY BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE EVEN, UM, OPERATE IN STREET NAMING WHEN IT'S CHANGES AT A LARGE INTERSECTION.
SO I LIKE TO MAKE ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DENY, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THIS ITEM FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS.
IS THERE FIRST, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? AND I'LL INVITE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION SECOND TO THE MOTION TO DENY THIS ITEM.
AND, AND MAIN REASON BEING FOR IS EXACTLY WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER BANKS, UM, HAD MENTIONED AROUND, WE HAVE A LOT OF ROADS THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING.
SHE MENTIONED COLLEGE DRIVE, TURN INTO LEE.
I, I AND JUDGE BY THE FEEDBACK HERE, I DON'T SEE A, DON'T SEE A REASON TO, TO DO THAT FOR THIS ONE.
SO I'M GONNA SECOND THE MOTION.
THAT, THAT MOTION TO DENY, DENY HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELLEN.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ADDISON? THANK YOU MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
UM, DID GET A LITTLE CONFUSED ON WHERE THE CHANGE ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE IN THE PRIDE FOR HUDSON SIDE.
I KNOW IF YOU'RE ON HIGHWAY 19, OH SCENIC, THERE'S A, THERE'S THAT FIRST STRETCH, BUT YOU TALK ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION RYAN, CAN WE TALK ABOUT, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHY I THINK THE, THE INCONSISTENCY STARTED CAUSING SOME CONFUSION WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET CONSISTENT ON.
AFTER THE SUBDIVISION WAS BUILT, WE NOW HAVE THOSE SIGNS, UH, EXPRESSING THE PRIDE FOR HUDSON, FOR HUDSON PRIDE.
UH, I, I, FOR SICK CLARIFICATION, I DO LIVE OUT THERE.
I LIVE ON RES, WHICH IS RIGHT OUT THERE, AND THE DEAD ENDS RIGHT AT, UH, UM, THE, UM, PUT HUDSON PRIDE ROAD, AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS CALLED IT.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, SO, SO YOU DO COME DOWN, UH, PRIDE PUT HUDSON GOING TOWARDS SCENIC HIGHWAY.
AND WHEN YOU COME TO OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY, IT DOES CHANGE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHY WOULD WE DO THAT, WHICH BECOME REALLY DISRUPTIVE.
WE MIGHT SAY, OH, IT DON'T DISRUPT STUFF.
BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'VE BEEN GETTING IT THAT WAY FOR 40 AND 50 YEARS, IT IS DISRUPTIVE TO YOU, YOU KNOW? AND JUST LIKE ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN EXPRESSED THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE HAS A LOT OF RELATIVES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE BATON ROUGE MARKET, WHICH AGAIN, MEANS THERE ARE MAILS AND ALL THAT STUFF THERE.
WE KNOW THE POSTAL SERVICE IS GONNA HONOR THAT.
BUT BOY, YOU, YOU WOULD ALMOST BE AMAZED HOW I GET SO MUCH WRONG MAIL.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T AFFORD THE POSTMASTER, BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT I GET MAIL FROM ALMOST EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, AND WE END UP PUTTING IT BACK IN THE BOX TO HAVE IT TAKEN AWAY.
SO IT IS SOME INCONVENIENCES THERE, BUT, UH, THESE TWO SUBDIVISIONS IN THERE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT WHAT PRECIPITATED US HAVING TO ACTUALLY COME AND TRY TO DO THE CONSISTENCY? I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN IF THAT WAS A REASON FOR THE, THE STREET NAMES APPLICATION.
IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THOSE PARTICULAR SUBDIVISIONS, UH, RICHLAND AND PIN, OAK LANE ALREADY SHOW PRIDE PORT HUDSON ROAD ON THERE.
AND THE ISSUE, AS IT WAS SHARED WITH US, WAS THE CONFLICTING SERIES OF ORDINANCES THAT WERE DONE THROUGHOUT THE DECADES LEADS TO CONFUSION.
UM, NOT ONLY IN THE SIGN SHOP IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, BUT OTHER AGENCIES, UH, THAT MAY EXPERIENCE GETTING DELAYS WITH MAIL OR OTHER SERVICES.
WELL, AGAIN, I GUESS, I GUESS IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE 40 OR 50 YEARS, YOU'VE LEARNED HOW TO MANAGE THAT PROCESS.
WHEN YOU START MAKING THAT CHANGE, IT CREATES MORE CONFUSION THAN YOU THINK IT CAUSES, YOU KNOW? SO AGAIN, SINCE THE APPLICANTS ARE NOT HERE AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE TO BE THE GOVERNOR ITSELF, YOU KNOW, AND UNDER NORMAL PROCESSES IN LINE, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THIS FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITIZENS AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO ACTUALLY SPEAK UP WHEN THE GOVERNMENT DOES IT.
IT DON'T REQUIRE US HAVING THE SIGNATURES.
IT DON'T REQUIRE US ACTUALLY GOING TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC ITSELF BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING REPRESENTED BY THEIR GOVERNMENT ITSELF.
YOU KNOW, MAYOR BROOM'S OFFICE AND BRANDON NOEL'S OFFICE IS ACTUALLY BRINGING THE CHANGE ITSELF AND FOR NOT THESE CITIZENS HERE SITTING HERE TONIGHT.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT IF THEY FOUND OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 200 CITIZENS WHO ARE
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AFFECTED BY IT, AND THEY FIND OUT AFTER THE CHANGE TAKES PLACE, YOU KNOW, SO AGAIN, I TOO SUPPORT THE MOTION TO DENY IT.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ADDISON.
ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMENTS? VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT, MR. DIRECTOR? I'M, MY BRAIN HURTS.
WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS THIS ROAD PRIDE? PORT HUDSON.
WHERE IS IT? PORT HUDSON PRIDE.
WHERE IS IT SOMETHING ELSE ON? I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP OF THE ENTIRE STRETCH THAT'S, UH, UNDER CONSIDERATION.
I'VE HEARD THAT, UH, HIGHWAY 19 IS A CUTOFF, BUT IT'S A CUTOFF TO WHAT? SO THERE'S MULTIPLE DISCREPANCIES.
THE THE VICINITY MAP THAT THE GIS DEPARTMENT PROVIDES.
BUT THERE'S A VARIETY OF DISCREPANCIES ON THE ACTUAL SIGNAGE THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE STREET, AND ALSO WITH EXISTING ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE DECADES THAT GO BACK TO 61 AND THE GENTLEMAN HERE SPOKE THERE.
IS THERE A CHANGE MASS PRIOR TO THAT? IS, IS THERE, IS THERE A CHANGE AT PLANK ROAD OR IS IT, THIS IS JUST, IT JUST CHANGES SORT OF A LITTLE HERE, A LITTLE THERE ALONG THE WAY.
I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT CONSISTENT LIKE FROM PLANK ROAD ALL THE WAY TO LIBERTY? IS IT ONE THING AND THEN FROM PLANK ROAD ALL THE WAY TO OLD SCENIC, IT'S ANOTHER, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE IN BETWEEN? DO THEY CHANGE WITHIN THAT? IT CHANGES WITHIN THAT.
AND AGAIN, BASED ON THE OLD ORDINANCES, HAVING BOTH STREET NAMES, IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE SIGN DEPARTMENT ON WHEN A SIGN IS IS MISPLACED OR, OR PUT PUT UP ON WHICH VERSION IS IT GONNA BE BECAUSE OF THE MIS MISMATCH OF ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
I, I, I AM NOT A BIG PERSON IN FAVOR OF CHANGING STREET NAMES, JUST FOR THE FUNNEL, CHANGING STREET NAMES.
UH, I CAME IN HERE WITH THE IDEA THAT THIS NEEDED TO BE CLARIFIED AND MADE ALL ONE, UH, I LIVED IN NEW ORLEANS WHERE RAMPART STREET BECAME SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN BECAME SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN BECAME RAMPART STREET AND IT DID IT ALL IN THREE BLOCKS.
AND THAT WAS TRADITION AND EVERYBODY KNEW IT AND NOBODY WAS DARE CHANGE IT.
UM, I THINK WITHOUT MORE CLARITY, I'M GOING, I'M GONNA SUPPORT, I'M GONNA SUPPORT COMMISSIONER BANKS IN THIS ONE.
SO I'M GONNA ALSO, UH, UH, I'M GONNA SUPPORT DENIAL.
ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BOYD? I JUST HAVE TO SAY I, I'M FROM THE AREA AS WELL.
I LIVE NORTH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OLD SCENIC, BUT WHEN I STARTED, WHEN I LOOKED FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IT, I JUST THINK IF EVERY, IF IT WAS ALL THE SAME, THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ISSUES WITH MAYBE EMS GOING TO DIFFERENT PLACES AND ADDRESSES.
BUT, UH, AFTER HEARING FROM Y'ALL, I, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
IT, IT WOULD BE A BURDEN AND A, A DIFFICULT THING FOR, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE.
COMMISSIONER BOYD, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS TO DENY THIS ITEM.
THE SECOND WAS FROM I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER ELLEN.
ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? IF NOT, I BELIEVE ONE.
OBVIOUSLY THE MAYOR'S, UH, AN OBJECTION.
I WAS PREPARED TO PROVIDE THAT OBJECTION BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOULD BE, UH, HEARD AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, JUST, UH, AND I BELIEVE ONE VOTE IS REQUIRED TO DO THAT, SO THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT IN THAT PARTICULAR FORM AT THAT MEETING FOR THE DATE THAT, UH, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB HAS ALREADY GIVEN, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE THAT ITEM HAS BEEN DENIED POINT OF ORDER.
SO IF, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS DIFFERENT, BUT WITH US, IF THERE, UM, IS AN OBJECTION, WE VOTE ON THE MACHINE.
I THINK, I THINK, UH, THERE, I DON'T THINK WE GET TO THAT POINT HERE.
TRADITIONALLY WE'VE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT UNTIL IT, IT BECAME SOME, UH, THERE WERE ENOUGH OBJECTIONS TO WHERE IT BECAME UNCLEAR WHICH WAY THE, THE MOTION WOULD GO.
WE, WE DO THAT, UH, TO CLARIFY THE VOTE, BUT IF THERE'S ONLY ONE, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE OBJECTION, THEN, THEN I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE A ROLL CALL IN THE PAST.
SO NOW THAT WITH THE ONE OBJECTION, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE CLEAR.
DOES THIS DIE HERE OR IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL? IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
SO IT JUST GOES WITH THE REJECTION? YES, THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE, THE, THE BODY RECOMMENDS DENIAL.
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3 24 TRATO S3 24 TRATO SUBDIVISION PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD SCENIC HIGHWAY NORTH OF GROOM ROAD COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO BANKS.THE APPLICANT IS ART LANCASTER.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MAJOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITH 1,218 LOTS AND PUBLIC STREET ACCESS.
FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD S3 24 TRATO SUBDIVISION STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION.
THE CITY OF ZACHARY HAS PROVIDED A MESSAGE OF OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
MY NAME IS DEREK MURPHY AT 1 8 3 2 0 HIGHWAY 42, PORT VINCENT, LOUISIANA, 7 0 7 2 6.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT TRATO SUBDIVISION.
THIS IS 350 ACRES LOCATED IN THE NORTHEASTERN QUADRANT OF GROOM ROAD AT HIGHWAY 9 64.
THIS PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED 946 LOTS BACK IN 2022.
PRESENTLY, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONE RURAL WITH A DENSITY OF 4.1 UNITS PER ACRE ARE LITTLE MORE THAN 1400 LOTS.
WE'RE HERE ASKING TONIGHT FOR APPROVAL OF 1,218 LOTS, WHICH IS OVER 200 LOTS BELOW THAT ALLOWABLE DENSITY.
WE MEET ALL ZONING AND PLANNING REQUIREMENTS OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH AND THE PLANNING STAFF CERTIFIED THAT THIS PROPOSED PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO SPEAK AS TO WHY WE'RE COMING BACK BEFORE Y'ALL, BEFORE THIS BODY FOR THIS ADDITIONAL APPROVAL.
I CAN TELL YOU IF WE KNEW THEN WHAT WE KNOW NOW, THAT THIS LAYOUT WOULD LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY.
AT ONE POINT THIS PROPERTY WAS THOUGHT TO HAVE NEARLY 176 ACRES OF WETLANDS DURING THE NORMAL PROGRESSION OF THIS PROJECT.
THE WETLANDS WERE LATER REDUCED TO A LITTLE OVER 55 ACRES AND THEN AGAIN TO 35 ACRES.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, REVISE OUR DEVELOPMENT AND COME BACK BEFORE Y'ALL TONIGHT.
WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AS IT SITS, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER CARD IN FAVOR IS FOR LISA TYSON.
HEY, LISA, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES.
DON'T SEE A CHALLENGE WITH WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED.
I CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE MIVAL SUBDIVISION, UH, WHICH IS NEAR THE PROPOSED, UH, SUBDIVISION.
THE FIRST QUESTION, UH, CENTERS AROUND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, THE SCHOOL, THE POLICE, AND THE FIRE ESTABLISHMENT THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO RUN ADJACENT TO 9 64.
WILL THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT EXISTS TODAY AND THE PROPOSED NEW? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
THE SECOND QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH LIGHTING, UH, SIGNAL.
WILL WE HAVE TURNING LIGHTS, UH, YOU KNOW, LIGHTS TO MOVE ABOUT IN THIS AREA THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE IN POPULATION SIGNIFICANTLY? AND THE THIRD QUESTION IS, WHAT TYPE OF POOL HAS BEEN DONATED? THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DONATED FOR A SCHOOL? IS IT GONNA BE A ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, OR HIGH SCHOOL? IS IT GONNA BE A TRIAGE? WHAT IS IT THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN? SO I, UH, WELCOME CHANGE.
I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD, UH, GROWTH FOR ZACHARY, BUT I DO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WOULD CHANGE MY DECISION IF THE ANSWERS ARE NOT GONNA MEET, WHAT'S GONNA ENHANCE MY PROPERTY WHERE I SIT.
WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER COURT THAT IS IN FAVOR FOR AUTHOR LANCASTER EVERY, BUT HE HAS INDICATED THAT, THAT HE DOES NOT WISH TO
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SPEAK.SO AT THIS TIME, UH, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK, NOT NECESSARILY FOR REBUTTAL, BUT SEVERAL, SEVERAL QUESTIONS WERE RAISED.
SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER, UH, THOSE IF YOU WISH.
UM, THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE FOR DONATION, UH, DO HAVE ACCESS DIRECTLY TO 9 64.
AND ON THE, ON THE NEW PLAN, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME ACCESS FROM THE SITES INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL TO GIVE IT, UH, ANOTHER POINT OF ACCESS WHERE YOU CAN KEEP THE TRAFFIC OFF THE MAIN ROAD AND GO INTO THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF.
UH, THE SIGNAL LIGHTS, THOSE ARE CONTROLLED BY DOTD.
WE HAVE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THAT ARE WORKING WITH DOTD TRAFFIC STUDIES AND SO FORTH.
SOME OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEGUN.
UH, THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WARRANTED ON 9 64, SUCH AS TURN LANES AND THERE'S TRAFFIC WARRANTS BEING DONE, UH, AS WELL FOR SIGNALS AND SO FORTH.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING, STILL WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF THAT PROCESS.
AND, UH, BUT THERE ARE TURN LANES AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO ON HIGHWAY 9 64 AS FAR AS THE TYPE OF SCHOOL.
WE'RE NOT DONATING A SCHOOL, BUT THE PROPERTY.
AND IT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE, UH, GOVERNING AUTHORITIES TO PUT WHAT THEY SEE FIT THERE, WHETHER THAT'S, UM, SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER OTHER FACILITIES THAT THEY WOULD WANT.
AND SO, UM, WE, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA PUT THERE, BUT WHETHER, UH, WE GIVE THAT TO THEM AND WE ARE DONATING THAT.
SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER BANKS TO APPROVE THIS ITEM THAT SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.
[DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS]
COMMUNICATIONS, BEGINNING WITH DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS.THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS JUST A QUICK REMINDER.
YOUR NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 17TH.
[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
ON TO COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS.I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEWEST, UH, EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
JASMINE THOMPSON, A ICP SENIOR PLANNER IN THE LONG RANGE.
JASMINE, A ICP SENIOR PLANNER IN THE LONG RANGE DIVISION.
JASMINE IS COORDINATING THE EPA BROWNSFIELD ASSESSMENT GRANT RECENTLY AWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WORKING ALONGSIDE OUR CONSULTANTS, SHE HAS SUCCESSFULLY COORDINATED THE OPEN HOUSE THAT WILL MARK THE BEGINNING OF OUR GRANT FUNDING.
THIS EVENT WILL PROVIDE VALUABLE INFORMATION ON HOW TO CLEAN UP BROWNSFIELD FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT.
JASMINE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE LOUISIANA SOLAR DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP REGARDING PLANNING FOR SOLAR IN THE COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING.
JASMINE, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? SAME.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT? I'LL SECOND FROM THE CHAIR.
ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.