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[A. Meeting Opening]
TODAY IS THURSDAY, JULY 18TH, 2024.WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL BOARD.
UH, WE WILL NOW HAVE OUR INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THE INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER NATHAN RUSS, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY CADET FIRST LIEUTENANT SABR PRICE OF THE SCOTLANDVILLE MAGNET HIGH SCHOOL, ACCOMPANIED BY ARMY INSTRUCTOR SERGEANT FIRST CLASS RETIRED.
MR. RONALD KENNEDY, LET US STAND.
FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SALVATION, AND WE THANK YOU FOR A FUTURE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I PRAY THAT YOU WILL SOFTEN OUR HARD HEARTS, THAT YOU WILL OPEN OUR EARS.
OPEN OUR EYES THAT YOU WILL BREAK DOWN THE DIVIDES BETWEEN US AND HELP US FIND YOUR WILL, LORD, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS SOFT FIRST CLASS KENNEDY FROM SKYVILLE MAGNET HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO THAT PRICE.
SHE'S A SENIOR GOING TO HER SENIOR AT VILLE MAG HIGH SCHOOL.
SHE JUST TURNED 17 YESTERDAY, SO WROTE HER LITTLE BIRTHDAY THIS AFTER HER FUTURE.
HER FUTURE GOAL IS TO BE A PEDIATRIC DENTIST WHEN SHE GRADUATES VILLE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, AND GO TO COLLEGE, UH, ON HER TO BE 'CAUSE THAT PRICE, OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY OF JUSTICE FOR ALL ON BEHALF, ON BEHALF OF THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL BOARD, AND THEN ALSO AS AN ALUM OF THESE
UM, AND AS AN ALUM OF SCOTLANDVILLE HIGH CLASS OF 1997, OF COURSE BEING A LEGACY, MY PARENTS AND MY GRANDMOTHER ALSO ATTENDED SCOTLANDVILLE.
AND YOUR HIGH SCHOOL CLASSMATE IS MR. DP DARRELL POWELL JUNIOR, UM, WHICH IS MY SON.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU.
OUR MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL AT THIS TIME.
DISTRICT THREE, PRESIDENT POWELL LEWIS.
PRESENT, DISTRICT NINE, VICE PRESIDENT MARTIN.
BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH, UM, ITEM B ONE, UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, BUT I WILL SAY THIS.
I DIDN'T HAVE MY LITTLE SCRIPT LAST WEEK AND UM, I DON'T HAVE IT TODAY AS WELL, BUT YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UH, THERE IS A PARTICULAR DECORUM THAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN OUR MEETINGS.
AND SO YOU, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GO IN AND IF YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, THE DESK IN THE FRONT LOBBY TO REMIND YOURSELVES OF WHAT THAT DECORUM IS.
UH, ALSO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, AND I'M GONNA ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME, UM, WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS IN THE PAST WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO IS TEXTING WHO.
SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND I'M TURNING OFF MY PHONE AND I ASK THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL CONSIDER THE SAME, THAT WE NOT ENTERTAIN ANY EMAILS THAT WE GIVE OUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION TO OUR AUDIENCE AS WELL.
UH, WHEN THEY, WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES TO THE MIC, I ASK THAT IF WE HAVE ANY EMAILS GOING, IF WE HAVE ANY TEXT MESSAGE THREADS GOING, PLEASE IF YOU CAN AND IF YOU WILL, UM, LET'S BE COURTEOUS AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND TURN OFF OUR DEVICES AND GIVE OUR FULL ATTENTION TO OUR MEETING.
UM, ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT THERE, AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
I BELIEVE THAT MS. SOLE, WHO WAS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US TODAY, HAS SENT A MESSAGE AS WELL.
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MA'AM.EMILY SOLE ASKED ME TO RELAY THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE.
I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT I CANNOT ATTEND TONIGHT'S BOARD MEETING BEFORE I WAS ELECTED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, I COMMITTED TO SPEAKING AT A CONFERENCE IN FLORIDA TO A GROUP OF OVER 300 YOUNG PEOPLE.
THE PROCESS TO CHOOSE OUR NEXT SUPERINTENDENT WAS SET TO CULMINATE A WEEK AGO, AND I CANNOT CANCEL MY PRIOR COMMITMENT.
I WILL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE AND ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY UNTIL I RETURN.
[B. Minutes]
THE MEETING MINUTES.THERE IS A QUESTION, UH, THAT HAS BEEN ASKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD TAKE OUR AGENDA IN A DIFFERENT ORDER.
MR. SHAMBLIN, SHOULD THAT TAKE PLACE AFTER WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE INFORMATION ONLY ITEMS? YES MA'AM.
ALRIGHT, SO ITEM B ONE, MEETING MINUTES, APPROVAL OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20TH, 2024 REGULAR BOARD MEETING.
THE JUNE 18TH, 2024, UM, JUNE 28TH, 2024, AND JULY 11TH, 2024 SPECIAL BOARD MEETINGS.
AND THE JULY 11TH, 2024 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING AS PUBLISHED IN THE OFFICIAL JOURNAL.
IS THERE A MOTION MOVE? IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. LANDIS.
IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MR. MARTIN.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
SEEING NONE, WE RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
DO YOU WANT ME TO DO A ROLL CALL? ALL THE MOTION CARRIES.
[C. Information Only]
C OR ALPHABET C INFORMATION ONLY MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT, MS. LOPEZ.SO THIS ITEM IS RECEIVED FOR INFORMATION ONLY AND CAN BE FOUND.
AM I CORRECT, MADAM SECRETARY ON BOARD DOCS.
THE SAME WITH ITEM C TWO PERSONNEL CHANGES CAN BE FOUND ON BOARD DOCS AS WELL.
[D. Reports from Board Appointees to Committees/Agencies]
ALPHABET D REPORTS FROM BOARD APPOINTEES TO COMMITTEES AND AGENCIES.UM, ARE THERE ANY REPORTS FROM ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY AGENCIES OR COMMITTEES AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT JUNIOR ACHIEVEMENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE THE PURCHASE OF A MOBILE FINANCIAL LAB, UH, WHICH WILL BE BEING USED ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND SURROUNDING PARISHES TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL EDUCATION FOR OUR CHILDREN.
AND WE'LL ALSO BE PART OF THE, UM, OF THE FINANCIAL LITERACY COURSES THAT WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO TEACH.
I HAD PICTURES AND THINGS OF THEM, BUT I'M NOT GONNA WASTE TIME, EVERYONE'S TIME ON THAT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT.
AND I BELIEVE THEIR FIRST SET UP, I THINK IT WAS SET UP FOR SEVEN WEEKS AT THE JEWEL NEWMAN, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND THEY WILL BE ROTATING VARIOUS, UH, SCHOOLS AND CLASSES THROUGH THAT CENTER.
SO THIS IS A BIG ADDITION FOR JUNIOR ACHIEVEMENT AND A GREAT PARTNER FOR US.
AND A LOT OF GOOD THINGS WILL COME FROM THE, TO THIS DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO I WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR HARD WORK.
AND IF WE COULD GIVE THEM A HAND, PLEASE.
YEAH, I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SAID THAT IT'S, THEY'RE STARTING AT JEWEL J NEWMAN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY BACK DOOR.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE HERE, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION FROM THE BOARD, UM, SOME OF OUR, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR PUBLIC HAS ASKED IF WE WILL, UH, TAKE OUR ITEMS IN A DIFFERENT ORDER TONIGHT.
UH, WE KNOW THAT WE HAD OUR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE SCHEDULE FOR LAST THURSDAY.
WE DID NOT TECHNICALLY GET TO ANY OF THE ITEMS, UH, IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD TAKE, UH, ITEM ONE NEAR THE END OF THE AGENDA,
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UH, WHICH WOULD TAKE PLACE AFTER ITEM 12.MR. SHALIN, PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AS WELL, AS LONG AS THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM BOARD MEMBERS AND JUST, UM, TO NOTE THERE ARE THREE STUDENT EXPULSIONS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NIGHT.
SO THEN OF COURSE, IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN WOULD WE, COULD WE TAKE, UM, ITEM E ONE AFTER THAT NEW BUSINESS? OR ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT AS LONG AS THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER.
SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION AT THIS TIME OF US TAKING ITEM E ONE? UM, AFTER ITEM F? AFTER ITEM F THREE.
SEEING NO OBJECTION, UM, I'M ASSUMING MS, UM, MS. ORMAN OR MR. SHALIN, DO WE NEED TO GET MR. SMITH IN FOR THE REST OF THE AGENDA? OKAY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU ALL.
SO WE WILL TAKE, UH, ITEM E ONE AFTER ITEM F THREE.
AND WE WILL GIVE, UM, INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT MR. ADAM SMITH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN US, AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA.
[E.1. Amended Job Descriptions]
TO ITEM E OR ALPHABET E UNFINISHED BUSINESS ITEM E TWO, AMENDED JOB DESCRIPTIONS, CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO AMEND TEACHER'S JOB DESCRIPTIONS TO ADD THE DUTIES AS SPECIFIED IN THE ATTACHED MEMO.STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT, OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. LEWIS? IS THERE A SECOND? IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MS. STEWART COMMENTS FROM THE, UH, BOARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
MS. POWELL, MS. MATTHEWS, MS. POWELL, LEWIS? YES.
WHO WAS THE, WHO MADE THE MOTION? UH, MS. LEWIS AND SECONDED BY MS. STEWART.
LAE FOUGHT HARD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET THIS LAW PASSED, TO FIGHT FOR TEACHERS WHO HAD ADMINISTRATORS THAT WERE NOT RESPECTING THE LAW OF THE UNINTERRUPTED PLANNING PERIOD.
AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BEING A TEAM PLAYER DURING COVID, IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO FINALLY WE GET A LAW THAT'S GOING TO PAY US FOR THE ADDITIONAL THINGS OUTSIDE OF, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GRADING.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PLANNING.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO REMEMBER, TEACHERS ARE ONLY PAID FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE ARE IN FRONT OF CHILDREN.
THAT'S THE ONLY TIME EVERY OTHER FRIDAY THEY TAKE THAT PAYCHECK AND THEY PUT IT IN A LITTLE ACCOUNT SO THAT WE GET A PAYCHECK OVER CHRISTMAS BREAK AND THANKSGIVING BREAK AND EASTER BREAK.
BECAUSE PLEASE MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, WE DO NOT GET PAID FOR HOLIDAYS.
WE, WE ACCEPT THAT WHEN WE SIGN ON, BUT PEOPLE THINK THAT WE, WE GET THESE THINGS AND WE DON'T.
OKAY? SO THIS, THIS CHANGE WHEN WE'RE FINALLY GOT A LAW PASSED THAT SAYS THEY'RE GONNA PAY US FOR THESE OUTSIDE DUTIES, ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT TEACHERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN FOR FREE FOR YEARS.
ALL OF OUR OWN MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN POURING INTO THESE BABIES FOR YEARS.
AND WE ARE FINALLY GONNA GET COMPENSATION.
AND WHAT DO DISTRICTS DO? DISTRICTS SAY, I, I, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IN YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION, BUT GUESS WHAT? HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE, WHICH I 100% TELL TEACHERS, PLEASE DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO BE AT, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE KIDS, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PARENTS, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY WHERE YOU CAN SAY, MA'AM, I WENT OVER THIS AT OPEN HOUSE.
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WHY WEREN'T YOU THERE? OKAY.SO I MEAN, I'M A PROPONENT OF DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO BE THERE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE CLASSES AT NIGHT, IF YOU HAVE A SECOND JOB AT NIGHT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE CHILDCARE, IF IT IS IN OUR JOB DESCRIPTION AND YOU HAVE A PRINCIPAL LIKE WE HAVE AT A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS THAT DON'T GIVE ANY WAYWARD AT ALL, THEN THAT MEANS THESE TEACHERS CAN BE WRITTEN UP FOR NOT GOING.
AND DON'T ACT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE SOME PRINCIPLES THAT WOULD DO THAT.
IT CAN'T BE IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION.
WE ARE ONLY PAID FOR THE MINUTES THAT CHILDREN ARE IN FRONT OF US.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR US TO BE PAID FOR THE GRADING, FOR THE PLANNING, FOR THE PREPARING THAT COMES WITH BEING A TEACHER.
BUT OPEN HOUSE, STAYING AFTER SCHOOL PDS.
YOU WANT US TO DO 'EM? THAT'S WHAT THE STATE LAW SAYS.
HOW ABOUT YOU CUT HALF THESE CONTRACTS THAT ARE ON HERE? THAT'S WHAT YOU MAKE THE MONEY UP FOR.
SEEING NO FURTHER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
WE WILL NOW RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AND I HAVE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. MATTHEWS, FOR YOUR PASSION BEHIND, UM, EDUCATORS AND TEACHERS AS WELL.
UH, OF COURSE, I DON'T HAVE TO BEAT THE DRUM AND REMIND YOU GUYS WHAT MY CAREER CHOICE IS.
UH, I AM SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THERE IS LEGISLATION THAT SHOWS THAT TEACHERS CAN BE COMPENSATED FOR THE ADDITIONAL DUTIES THAT THEY HAVE.
UM, MY QUESTION THOUGH, UH, WAS MR. SMITH, IF YOU COULD SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THE IDEA OF OPEN HOUSE BEING INCLUDED IN, IN THE, UH, JOB DESCRIPTION.
WHAT MAY HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN THE RATIONALE? CHANEL ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ME, AND I'M GONNA JUST ASK 'EM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
THE OTHER ONE IS, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT TEACHERS HAVING TO COVER CLASSES? THANK YOU.
PRESIDENT POWELL LEWIS, BEFORE THIS ITEM WAS BOUGHT, BROUGHT TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION STAFF AND I, ALONG WITH GENERAL COUNSEL, WE MET WITH THE REPRESENTATIONS OF THE TEACHER UNIONS, THE TEACHER LEADERS UNIONS.
AND IT WAS DECIDED AMONGST THE UNIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WILL ALLOW OPEN HOUSE TO BE IN A PART OF THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY UNANIMOUSLY AGREED UPON BEFORE WE BROUGHT THE EXAMPLE TO THE BOARD BECAUSE, UH, OF COURSE THIS ACT REQUIRED SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE TO DO SOMETHING AS IT RELATES TO, UM, COMPENSATING TEACHERS AS FOR THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION.
AND SO WHEN WE MET, IT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO, UH, WE SIT AROUND THE ROUND TABLE AND WE CAME UP WITH WHAT ARE THOSE EXTRA DUTIES THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER AS BEING A PART OF THE TEACHER JOB DESCRIPTION, UH, AS IT RELATES TO CLASS COVERAGE.
UM, WHAT HAS BEEN DECIDED, OF COURSE, UH, AS IT STATES SPECIFICALLY IN THAT PARTICULAR STATUTE ACT THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO, UM, PAY TEACHERS AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF $30 AN HOUR, UH, IF THEY COVER CLASSES TO WHERE, UH, THEY MISS THEIR PLANNING PERIOD.
AND SO WE ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT.
THE BUDGET IS STRUCTURED TO WHERE WE CAN, UM, COMPENSATE OUR STAFF AND TEACHERS.
AND SO, SO THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE WE ARE.
MY QUESTION AS WELL IN REGARDS TO THAT IS, IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR HOW THAT WILL BE DOCUMENTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATORS OR, OR KEEPING, KEEPING THE DOCUMENTATION OF WHO'S HAVING TO COVER CLASSES? YES, MA'AM.
GENERALLY, IT'LL BE COVERED THROUGH A PART-TIME PERSONNEL ROCKET.
UH, HR HAS MET WITH, UH, PRINCIPALS LAST WEEK DURING THE BREW CAMP TO EXPLAIN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, LAW THAT'S EXISTING.
AND, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING NEXT WEEK.
BUT ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED AT THE SCHOOL.
AND, UH, THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT PAYROLL FOR THOSE TEACHERS WHO COVER CLASSES.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED WERE SOME OF THE SAME, UH, SIMILAR QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.
THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD ASK NOW BASED OFF THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE AROUND, UH, OPEN HOUSE AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, ARE TEACHERS PAID FOR OPEN HOUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEING ADDED TO THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION? THROUGHOUT THE, UH, CONVERSATION, WE FOUND THAT SOME SCHOOLS WERE ACTUALLY COMPENSATING TEACHERS TO COME TO OPEN HOUSE.
I THINK COLLECTIVELY, UH, WE THOUGHT AS A, UM, A GROUP, AND I'M MENTIONING THE, UH, TEACHER UNIONS, WE FELT LIKE OPEN HOUSE.
THEY FELT LIKE TEACHERS NEEDED TO BE THERE.
'CAUSE THAT'S GENERALLY THE FIRST TIME THAT, UH, PARENTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THEIR CHILD'S TEACHERS.
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FELT STRONGLY THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE THING THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION TO ADD TO THE JOB DESCRIPTION.SO I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, DO WE HAVE ROOM TO ADD SOME LEVEL OF COMPENSATION FOR GIVING EXTENDED HOURS AFTER YOU, AFTER YOU'RE NO LONGER BEING PAID, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BECAUSE THE, THE THING THAT I DO UNDERSTAND IS IT IS A DAUNTING THOUGHT TO THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE MORE TIME, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, OPEN HOUSE, BUT IT COULD BE ANYTHING THROUGHOUT THE GIVEN WORKDAY OR OUTSIDE THE WORKDAY THAT EXPECTATIONS, EXTRA EXPECTATIONS ARE BEING PLACED ON TEACHERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY ROOM TO ADD COMPENSATION FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? UH, I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.
I, I KNOW THAT SOME SCHOOLS DO LIKE, UM, SCIENCE NIGHTS, STEM NIGHTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS WILL BE VOLUNTEERED AS OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM REQUEST THAT WE'LL DOCUMENT IF TEACHERS CHOOSE TO VOLUNTEER.
BUT AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, SOME SCHOOLS WERE, YOU KNOW, COMPENSATING TEACHERS IF THEY AGREED TO STAY ACTIVE HOURS.
AND SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING, UH, MR. LANCE, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT.
BUT, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, KINDA UNANIMOUS AMONGST THE UNIONS.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE FELT LIKE WE CAN INCORPORATE WITHIN THE, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DOCUMENT.
AND, UM, UM, AND SO THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE, IS THIS AN IMMEDIATE ITEM THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS? IT SHOULD BE APPROVED BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS.
WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND VISIT IT BECAUSE SCHOOL STARTS WITH TEACHERS.
TEACHERS COME BACK ON AUGUST 3RD.
AND SO, WHAT IS IT? FIFTH? AUGUST 5TH.
I'M BRINGING YOU BACK TWO DAYS EARLY.
UH, BUT AUGUST, UH, FIFTH AND, AND STUDENTS RETURN, I THINK ON THE EIGHTH, I THINK.
UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA BEAT THIS ITEM DOWN.
I THINK YOU ALL DID YOUR DUE DILIGENCE TALKING TO THE TEACHER UNIONS.
UM, WHAT I WOULD ASK THOUGH IS IF WE COULD DIALOGUE ABOUT THIS MORE AND DISCUSS THIS AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE WHO OBVIOUSLY FIND, I WON'T SAY ISSUE, BUT THERE'S JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COMPENSATION FOR WORK THAT'S NOT BEING COMPENSATED.
AND I, I HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN THAT.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO, FOR US TO CONTINUE THIS DIALOGUE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME BACK WITH IN TERMS OF FIXING THAT PROBLEM.
UH, DEFINITELY WE WOULD DEFINITELY COME BACK AND REVISIT IT, BUT WE JUST NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR WHEN TEACHERS COME BACK AND STUDENTS COME BACK, BECAUSE AS IT RELATES TO CLASS COVERAGE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
MR. SMITH, HAVE WE EVER PAID TEACHERS IN THE PAST FOR PD? YES.
YES, BECAUSE I REMEMBER BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, PDS WERE HELD AFTER SCHOOL.
UH, GENERALLY WHAT YOU HAVE, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING IN POLICY WHERE, UH, TEACHERS HAVE TO STAY AT LEAST ONE DAY A MONTH FOR AFTERSCHOOL PD.
UM, YOU KNOW, TEACHERS HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED.
WELL ADVANCED EARLY ABOUT THE PD, BUT, UH, TYPICALLY AFTER HOURS.
UH, AND WHAT DID THE BUDGET SALARY SCHEDULE IS? I THINK IT'S $35 AN HOUR.
PART-TIME PAY FOR TEACHERS FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, IF I'M MISTAKEN.
UM, AND I KNOW SOMETIMES, UH, SCHOOL LEADERS WILL SCHEDULE PDS ON, IN-SERVICE DAYS.
WELL, TYPICALLY ON YOUR EARLY DISMISSAL DAYS, UH, UH, YOU CAN'T DOUBLE DIP, UH, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THEY'RE THERE FOR A PACIFIC EIGHT HOURS AND, AND SO IT'S A PART OF THEIR WORKDAY.
SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAID THEN.
NOW, I CAN'T RECALL THE SPECIFIC CONTRACT THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING UP HERE LAST YEAR, BUT I DO RECALL THERE WAS A $474,000 PIECE OF THAT CONTRACT THAT WAS SET UP FOR PDS.
I, I REMEMBER WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING.
I THINK THOSE DOLLARS WERE COMING OUT OFA DOLLARS.
SO TO WHERE THEY WERE PAYING, UM, ADDITIONAL STIPEND FOR PDS.
BUT THIS MONEY, IF I RECALL THIS MONEY WAS GOING TO THE VENDOR.
THAT WAS WHAT THE VENDOR WAS CHARGING US TO CONDUCT PD.
BUT IF IT WAS ER DOLLARS, THEN IT'S, IT IS A MUTE POINT.
IF IT PROBABLY WAS, IF IT WAS A CONTRACT FOR A PARTICULAR VENDOR, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH ER DOLLARS.
I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN.
I'LL HAVE TO FIND THE VENDOR AND, AND GO BACK AND RESEARCH.
BECAUSE ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY, THERE HAD BEEN SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS GONNA BE A HALF DAY OR A WHOLE DAY STUDENTS WERE IN CLASS.
IT ENDED UP BEING A WHOLE DAY, HOWEVER THE PD HAD BEEN SCHEDULED AND TEACHERS WERE SCRAMBLING TRYING TO DO PD, TRYING TO MANAGE THEIR CLASSES.
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SO IF WE'RE NOT PAYING THEM FOR PD ACROSS THE BOARD, I THINK WE SHOULD.UM, I ALSO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF UNIFORM WAY THAT PDS ARE CONDUCTED.
THEY'RE EITHER CONDUCTED DURING EARLY DISMISSAL DAYS OR THEY CONDUCTED AFTER SCHOOL.
BUT ACROSS THE BOARD, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE CONDUCTING THEIR PDS IN THE SAME MANNER, SAME TIME.
SO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE PAY ATTACHED TO THAT, THAT WOULD BE EASIER IN MY BOOK TO DOCUMENT WHO SHOULD WE RECEIVE THE ADDITIONAL PAY.
UM, MR. SMITH, UH, I'VE, I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH TE WITH TEACHERS AND, UM, PRINCIPALS THIS SUMMER ABOUT STRUGGLE WITH SCHEDULING OPEN HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE, THE NEW LAW.
AM I, AM I RIGHT IN THAT THIS JOB DESCRIPTION UPDATE WOULD RESOLVE THAT ISSUE FOR THE START OF SCHOOL? YES.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT.
WAS, UM, WERE MEETINGS HELD WITH TEACHERS AND STAFF OUTSIDE OF UNION REPRESENTATION? LIKE ARE TEACHER ADVISORY PANEL OR ANYBODY ELSE? NO.
AT THE, AT WHEN THE, I DON'T KNOW THE ORIGINAL DATE WHEN THE LAW WAS ENACTED, I THINK WE WERE KIND OF BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL BECAUSE THIS ITEM WAS SUPPOSED TO COME.
IF YOU REMIND ME, MR. SHAMA, PRE JULY ONE.
AND WE RECEIVED A NOTICE, I THINK A WEEK PRIOR TO THAT, UM, AND SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COUNCIL COUNCIL.
SO WE IMMEDIATELY SET MEETINGS WITH, UH, WITH SCHOOL PE UH, WITH TEACHER GROUPS TO KIND OF HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
AND THE UNIONS WERE THE MOST OBVIOUS TO START WITH.
I DON'T WANNA HOLD THIS ITEM UP 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOTTA GET TO THE BUSINESS OF TEACHING OUR KIDS.
BUT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT A LOT OF THESE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE NOW BUILT INTO THIS, IT COULD SEEM PRETTY HEAVY, UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING TEACHERS TO DO OUTSIDE OF CLASSROOM HOURS.
SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF OUR TEACHER ADVISORY PANEL IF THAT STILL MEETS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK WHEN SCHOOL STARTS AND LOOK AT THIS.
YEAH, I THINK THE IMMEDIATE COURTESY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE IN CASE WE HAVE TO TAKE AWAY A TEACHER PLANNING PERIOD AND THAT WE CAN COMPENSATE TEACHERS.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENT FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
AND THIS IS ON, UM, ITEM E TWO AMENDED JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
[E.2. Healthcare and Ancillary Benefits Plans]
AND ANCILLARY BENEFITS PLANS.CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING, A PROPOSED CONTRACT RENEWAL WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD OF LOUISIANA FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES OF THE HEALTH PLAN FOR 2025 THROUGH 2027 B.
PROPOSED 2025 HEALTHCARE RATES FOR ACTIVE EMPLOYEES, NON-MEDICARE AND MEDICARE ELIGIBLE RETIREES PARTICIPATING IN THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD OF LOUISIANA ADMINISTERED MEDICAL PLANS FOR CORE BUY-UP AND COMMUNITY BLUE C.
PROPOSED CONTRACT RENEWAL WITH EXPRESS SCRIPTS FOR PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR 2025 THROUGH 2027.
PROPOSED CONTRACT RENEWAL WITH METLIFE FOR DENTAL INSURANCE FOR 2025.
E AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE THE 2025 CONTRACT FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE AND F AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE THE 2025 CONTRACT FOR STOP LOSS INSURANCE COVERAGE, STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT, OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE, AND EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT.
IS THERE A MOTION? IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. BALLOU.
IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MR. RUSS.
UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
UH, IF THE BOARD WOULD PREFER A PRESENTATION, WE CAN, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, UM, PRIMARY CARE, UH, FROM, UH, LAST YEAR IF EMPLOYEES WOULD'VE TO PAY PRIMARY CARE.
BUT IF YOU WISH IN A PRESENTATION, WE CAN PROVIDE A PRESENTATION.
HAVE OUR GALLAGHER TEAM HERE TONIGHT TO DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF OUR, UH, HEALTHCARE AND ANCILLARY BENEFITS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE FOURTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE RECOMMENDING NO HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES
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AND OUR RETIREES.I AM A CONSULTANT WITH GALLAGHER WHO HANDLES ALL YOUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS.
SO I WORK WITH MS. CROCHET, MS. LOPEZ, MS. BRADLEY, AND THE FAMOUS MISS ANITA, WHO IS RETIRING AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
SHE ALWAYS IS A GREAT PARTNER AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE HER FOR AS LONG AS WE'VE HAD.
UM, SO I WILL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY IS OUR 2025 EMPLOYEE BENEFITS RENEWAL.
UH, FIRST WE'LL START WITH JUST A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF OUR GALLAGHER TEAM.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT A RECAP OF THE CHANGES THAT WE DID IN 2024, AND THEN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR 2025.
SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK SNIP OF EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS, THE ADMINISTRATION, WE SUPPORT YOUR EMPLOYEES, AND ALL OF YOUR RETIREES.
UH, WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE MR. PEARSON, WHO IS THE LEAD CONSULTANT.
UM, OTHERS THAT WORK WITH US ARE MS. BRI, MS. MONROE, MS. LANE, AND MS. PIERRE.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT, JUST BRIEFLY A RECAP OF THE 2024 CHANGES THAT WE APPROVED THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
UM, WE, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE DID IMPLEMENT A $0 COPAY FOR OUR PRIMARY CARE VISITS.
THOSE WERE IMPLEMENTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, ACTUALLY.
SO THIS IS, UM, WHAT, SIX MONTHS INTO THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
AND SO ANYTIME THAT ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES UNDER THE BLUE CROSS PLAN OR RETIREE UNDER A BLUE CROSS PLAN, IF THEY GO SEE AN INTERNAL MEDICINE DOCTOR, IF IT'S A PEDIATRICIAN, AN O-B-G-Y-N, THOSE ARE DEFINED AS PREVENTIVE.
AND, UM, JUST PRIMARY CARE OFFICES VISITS, THOSE SHOULD BE AT NO MEMBER CALL SHARE.
SO THAT WAS ONE INITIATIVE THAT DR.
CE HAD IMPLEMENTED BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2023.
SO WE ALSO CONTINUED WITH EXPRESS SCRIPTS, WHO WAS OUR PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGER.
UM, AT THAT TIME, WE HAD RENEGOTIATED A CONTRACT THAT RESULTED IN $4.5 MILLION IN SAVINGS OVER THREE YEARS.
THE IMPACT TO THOSE MEMBERS FOR THOSE CHANGE WERE NOTHING.
OF COURSE, IT WAS AN ENHANCEMENT FOR THE $0 COPAY FOR ANY SICK VISITS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE ENHANCED PHARMACY CONTRACT HAD NO, UM, IMPACT TO MEMBERS ONLY SAVINGS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE ALSO MADE A SWITCH TO OUR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE FOR OUR RETIREES.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2023 WHEN WE MOVED FROM HUMANA TO UNITEDHEALTHCARE.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BY GETTING LOWER PREMIUMS. AND NOT ONLY THAT, WHICH WAS A $5.5 MILLION IN A ANNUAL SAVINGS OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD.
WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO OFFER A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN TO OUR RETIREES AT $0.
UH, VOLUNTARY LINES OF COVERAGE.
WE CONTINUED WITH METLIFE IN 2024, AND ALSO WITH AFLAC FOR OUR LIFE DISABILITY, CRITICAL ILLNESS, HOSPITAL AND ACCIDENT.
SO, MR. PEARSON'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE PROPOSED CHANGES FOR 2025.
UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS ERIC PEARSON.
I'M A CONSULTANT WITH GALLAGHER, UH, HERE IN BATON ROUGE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.
I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR.
NUMBER ONE, UH, THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN RECOMMENDATION IS TO REMAIN WITH BLUE CROSS, UH, BLUE SHIELD ON OUR ADMIN AGREEMENT.
UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE AGREEMENT IS WHAT WE PAY BLUE CROSS TO ADMINISTER OUR CLAIMS CUSTOMER SERVICE LEASE, THEIR NETWORK ID CARDS, CUSTOMER SERVICE, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE A, UH, RENEWAL FROM $34 AND 75 CENTS TO 37 75, UH, WHICH IS AN INCREASE, UH, TO THE COST OF $180,000 A YEAR.
HOWEVER, THAT INCREASE DOES COME WITH A $25,000 WELLNESS, UH, BUDGET, AS WELL AS A COMMUNICATION BUDGET.
UH, WITH THE RENEWAL IMPACT TO THE MEMBERS, UH, NONE.
IN ADDITION, UH, WE, WE RECOMMEND THAT WE REMAIN WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.
THE OVERALL PLAN COST INCREASE WOULD BE A 1.6% INCREASE TO THE BUDGET.
HOWEVER, WE'RE ABLE TO OFFSET THAT WITH ADDITIONAL PHARMACY SAVINGS.
UH, WITH THIS YEAR'S RENEGOTIATION OF THE EXPRESS SCRIPTS CONTRACT.
AGAIN, IMPACT TO THE MEMBERS, NONE.
WE RECOMMEND THAT WE REMAIN WITH THE EXPRESS SCRIPTS.
WE DID GO THROUGH A PBM RENEGOTIATION, UH, WHICH THIS YEAR DROVE AN ADDITIONAL $4.1 MILLION IN SAVINGS OVER ONE YEAR AND $16.6 MILLION IN SAVINGS OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH NO IMPACT TO THE MEMBERS.
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WE RECOMMEND, UH, CONTINUE WITH METLIFE, UH, FOR, UH, VOLUNTARY PRODUCTS TO EMPLOYEES.WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE ON THE DENTAL.
THERE ARE TWO DENTAL PLANS THAT ARE OFFERED.
ONE, THE SILVER PLAN HAD NO INCREASE AND NO CHANGE IN BENEFITS.
BUT THE GOLD PLAN DID HAVE AN 18% INCREASE, UH, IN, UH, IN THE RENEWAL.
UH, IT'S GUARANTEED FOR ONE YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE HAVE A 5% RATE CAP.
THE DENTAL PLAN HAS NOT HAD AN INCREASE IN OVER THREE YEARS.
AND JUST WITH THE COST OF CARE, THIS WAS THE RENEWAL.
WE MARKETED TO MANY CARRIERS, AND METLIFE REMAINED TO BE THE MOST COMPETITIVE ON THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PIECE.
UH, HALEY MENTIONED THE SAVINGS BY MOVING TO UNITEDHEALTHCARE VERSUS HUMANA.
UH, IN THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, UH, THERE IS A, UH, A STATUTE REGARDING THE MAX OUT OF POCKET, UH, THAT THEY WISH THAT FOR 2025, THE MAX OUT OF POCKET BE REDUCED TO $2,000 FROM 4,700.
UH, THEREFORE WE ASK THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT BE ALLOWED, UH, TO, UH, TO GO TO, UH, NEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT WHEN WE RECEIVE IT.
UH, THAT RENEWAL WON'T COME IN UNTIL AUGUST, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT CMS DOESN'T PROVIDE THEIR FUNDING AND WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT THIS CHANGE OR NOT UNTIL AUGUST.
AND VISION, LIFE INSURANCE, DISABILITY, CRITICAL ILLNESS AND HOSPITAL, UH, THESE ARE VOLUNTARY PRODUCTS.
WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, MR. GODDE? YES, THANK YOU.
UH, I HAD HAD SOME, UH, PEOPLE REACHING OUT A WHILE BACK, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT UNITED HEALTHCARE AND THE NEURO MEDICAL CENTER, UH, AND THE DISPUTE THEY WERE HAVING.
HAS THAT BEEN SETTLED OR WHERE? WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT? YES, SIR.
SO THAT, SO THE NEURO MEDICAL CENTER HAS ELECTED ON THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, THE RE THE RETIREMENT PROGRAM, UH, NOT TO ACCEPT, UH, THE UNITED HEALTHCARES, UH, COVERAGE.
THEREFORE, WE HAVE, UH, WORKED WITH UNITED, THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO NEURO MEDICAL, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO, UH, TO ENTER INTO A NEW CONTRACT.
AND SO THOSE CON, THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF RIGHT NOW.
QUESTION ON, UM, THE RENEWAL COMING UP WITH UNITED HEALTHCARE, UM, SINCE WE, SINCE THAT DOESN'T RENEW TILL AUGUST, AND WE DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT THAT COULD HAVE, UM, ON OUR PREMIUMS, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET THAT RENEWAL THROUGH YOU GUYS.
YOU'LL PROVIDE IT TO SUPERINTENDENT.
THEY'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA, UH, MR. SMITH, LIKE WHAT THE IMPACT THAT COULD BE ON OUR BUDGET, HOW, HOW BIG OF A PART OF OUR BENEFITS IS THIS PARTICULAR PART OF OUR, OUR BENEFITS? AND I JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S $3 MILLION OUT OF A TOTAL HEALTH SPEND OF ABOUT $80 MILLION TOGETHER.
SO IT'S, UM, LESS THAN 10% OF WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE SPENDING.
SEEING NO, NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, WE WILL NOW TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
MS. MERRICK, IS THAT FOR THIS ITEM? YES.
MS. MERRICK, I MENTIONED THIS WHEN THIS WAS, UM, DONE FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE WE HAD TROUBLE WITH THE RETIREES SECTION.
WHEN YOU ALL PRESENTED THIS WITH, UM, DR.
THERE WAS A BIG PROBLEM FOR THE RETIREES FROM BEING SWITCHED WITH HUMANA TO UNITEDHEALTHCARE BECAUSE HUMANA WAS NOT CONTACTED THAT WE WENT WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE.
SO WHEN WE WENT TO THE DOCTOR OR ANYTHING, HUMANA WAS STILL CHARGING US.
THERE WAS NO INFORMATION GIVEN TO HUMANA THAT WE HAD UNITEDHEALTHCARE.
NOT ONLY THAT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GET AFLAC BECAUSE WARREN DRAKE DID NOT OPEN AFLAC TO RETIREES, NOR DID HE ALLOW US TO GET INTO AFLAC IF YOU WERE NOT ALREADY IN AFLAC BEFORE HE BECAME SUPERINTENDENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING.
IN FACT, I WENT ON THE HALLWAY
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WITH YOU ALL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT HE DID NOT OPEN IT UP TO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE HE SAID GIVE HIM A CHANCE BY BEING SUPERINTENDENT.AND HE WOULD LET US KNOW WHEN HE WOULD OPEN UP AFLAC FOR US.
NOW, AS FAR AS THE POLICIES AND SO FORTH, THEY WERE CHARGING US UNDER HUMANA, EVEN WITH OUR MEDICATION.
AND WE HAD TO TAKE IN THE CARD AFTER WE FINALLY GOT OUR UNITED HEALTHCARE CARD.
WE HAD TO GO INTO THE HOSPITAL IN OUR DOCTORS AND SO FORTH, OUR PRESCRIPTIONS.
HUMANA SAID THEY WERE NEVER CONTACTED THAT IT WAS UNITEDHEALTHCARE.
AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY DID NOT WANT TO LOSE THAT CONTRACT.
BUT IT WAS VERY HARD FOR THE RETIREES TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE HAD TWO HEALTHCARE CARDS.
SO HUMANA WAS CALLING ALL OF US ASKING HOW DID WE GET A UNITEDHEALTHCARE CARD? THAT WASN'T OUR PLACE TO EXPLAIN THAT.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH EBR TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE NO LONGER WERE UNDER HUMANA.
THAT WAS A BREAKDOWN IN THE SYSTEM, THAT IT WAS NOT CARRIED ON IN THIS OFFICE FOR THE RETIREES.
IF WE DID NOT HAVE DENTAL AND SO FORTH, IT WAS NOT CARRIED OVER.
THE RETIREES WERE CONSTANTLY CALLING IN.
I GOT A LOT OF CALLS AND I TOLD YOU ALL WHEN I TALKED TO YOU BEFORE, I AM A BROKER, SO I DO KNOW INSURANCE, AND IT'S NOT MY PLACE IF I WAS NOT HIRED THROUGH EBR TO DISCUSS INSURANCE, TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS TO SOMEONE AND TELL THEM ALSO WHAT THEY HAVE.
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THE CONTRACTS ARE BEING RENEWED.
MS. MAYOR, BRING YOUR COMMENTS TO A CLOSE.
IT CAN COME TO A CLOSE, BUT THIS IS NOT DONE RIGHT FOR THE RETIREES, AND WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM GOING ON WITH THE RETIREES.
UH, SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, WE WILL NOW RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
I HAVE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK MR. SMITH, WITH THE, THE, THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN BY MS. MERRICK, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT OUR FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT WOULD HANDLE? OR, OR SHOULD HER COMMENTS BE DIRECTED TOWARDS HR OR PAYROLL AND BENEFITS? WELL, ACTUALLY ME, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT, UM, MRS. MERRICK JUST MENTIONED, BUT ACTUALLY IT SHOULD BE DIRECTED TOWARDS SUPERINTENDENT AND I CAN ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS WITH STAFF.
SEEING NO, UH, FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, WE WILL NOW, UH, ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
[E.3. Grants: Early Childhood]
GRANTS EARLY CHILDHOOD CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FOLLOWING.LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION GRANTS A 2024 THROUGH 2025 EARLY CHILDHOOD GUIDES AND AT HOME LEARNING INITIATIVE GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $52,000 TO ENSURE EARLY CHILDHOOD GUIDE ASSISTANCE IS AVAILABLE FOR FAMILIES AND RELATED MATTERS.
B-C-C-A-P-B THREE GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,517,613 TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO EARLY CARE AND EDUCATION SEATS FOR AT RISK INFANTS, TODDLERS, AND THREE YEAR OLDS IN RELATED MATTERS.
IS THERE A MOTION IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN? IS THERE A SECOND? IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MR. BALLOU.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
SEEING NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
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THE MOTION CARRIES.[E.4. Memorandums of Understanding (MOU)-Dual Enrollment]
MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING MOU DUAL ENROLLMENT CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING MOU BETWEEN THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL BOARD AND THE FOLLOWING, A BATON ROUGE COMMUNITY COLLEGE BRCC TO PROVIDE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES AND TECHNICAL COURSEWORK AS A RENEWAL OF THE EXISTING EARLY COLLEGE ACADEMY AGREEMENT FOR THE 20 24, 20 25 SCHOOL YEAR.B, LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY, LSU TO PROVIDE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES FOR THE 20 24 20 25 SCHOOL YEAR.
C LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY AT ALEXANDRIA LSUA TO PROVIDE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES FOR THE 20 24 20 25 SCHOOL YEAR D SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY, THE TO PROVIDE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES FOR THE 20 24 20 25 SCHOOL YEAR E SOUTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY, SELU TO PROVIDE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES FOR THE 20 24 20 25 SCHOOL YEAR F FRANCISCAN MISSIONARIES OF OUR LADY UNIVERSITY TO PROVIDE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES FOR THE 20 24 20 25 SCHOOL YEAR.
STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT, STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT FUNDING SOURCE SCA.
IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. RUSS AND SECONDED BY MR. GOE.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, MR. MARTIN? YES, MA'AM.
OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, BECAUSE THIS INVOLVES LSU, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, MR. GODDE? YES.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT I STRONGLY, STRONGLY SUPPORT.
UH, I THINK THIS PROGRAM GOT OFF TO A ROCKY START BECAUSE A LOT OF PARENTS AND OTHERS MISUNDERSTOOD IT.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS AT ONE SCHOOL, UH, RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL ENDED AND THERE WERE LIKE 125, UH, KIDS THAT ARE GONNA BE JUNIORS NEXT YEAR THAT ARE WELL ON THEIR WAY AT THAT ONE SCHOOL TO GET AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR TWO YEARS OF TOPS AND THEN GET A MASTER'S FOR TWO YEARS, UH, AND NEVER PAY A DIME OF TUITION.
UM, THE OTHER INTERESTING THING THAT I GOT OUT OF THAT WAS THAT MANY, I HEARD MANY TIMES FROM PARENTS WHO DIDN'T HAVE KIDS IN THE PROGRAM, BUT WERE AGAINST THE PROGRAM SAYING, HOW IN THE HECK COULD A KID WHO CAN'T PASS THE LEAP TEST OR DO WELL IN THE LEAP TEST, TAKE A DUAL ENROLLMENT CLASS? AND THE THING THAT THE PRINCIPALS, THIS IS MULTIPLE PRINCIPALS TOLD ME WAS THAT THE PURPOSE OR THE, THE CONCEPT OF THE DUAL ENROLLMENT IS REALLY NOT THE, IT WASN'T THE ACADEMIC ISSUES THAT GAVE KIDS ISSUES.
IT WAS THE ISSUES AROUND HOW TO DO SELF-STUDY, HOW TO PACE THEMSELVES, HOW TO DO THE READING, AND DO THE SELF-TEACHING AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE KIDS REALLY NEED.
THE ACADEMICS WEREN'T THE ISSUE AND IT ISN'T AN ISSUE WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE LEAPS.
THEY CAN HANDLE IT IF THEY JUST BUCKLE THEMSELVES DOWN AND LEARN IT.
BUT THE KEY THING THEY TOLD ME IS THE THINGS THAT THEY LEARN IN THESE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES CARRY OVER TO ALL OF THEIR OTHER COURSES.
SO I THINK IT'S BEEN A VERY BIG SUCCESS.
AND I HOPE WITH THAT WE CONTINUE IT.
MY CONCERN, THOUGH IS AS I'VE SEEN US DO MANY TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN IN, IN THIS SEAT, IS THAT WE START OFF WITH A GOOD PROGRAM AND THEN WE SLOWLY SQUEEZE THE RESOURCES FROM IT.
UH, SPEAKING WITH ONE PRINCIPAL AND MR. SMITH, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHO I'M, WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TEACHER OR NOT THE, THE TEACHERS WHO, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME, THE DESIGNATION.
THEY HAVE COORDINATORS, ACADEMIC ACADEMIC COORDINATORS.
UH, I THINK WERE AT ONE TIME A 12 MONTH, UH, EMPLOYEE.
AND THE THING WAS THAT WE CUT 'EM BACK TO NINE MONTHS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMED VERY PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE FRESHMEN, SOPHOMORES, AND JUNIORS IN THE PROGRAM.
THEY GOT MORE PROGRAMS. AND THE COORDINATION WITH THE, THE SCHOOLS, THE DUAL ENROLLMENT PROVIDERS ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE COMPLEX BECAUSE IT'S MORE AND MORE CLASSES THAT ARE BEING DONE AND IT'S MORE AND MORE DEPARTMENTS AS ALL OF THOSE SCHOOLS.
YOU JUST DON'T CALL UP BRCC AND YOU GET ONE PERSON TO HANDLE IT.
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EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT HANDLE THOSE THINGS.AND SO I THINK WE FINALLY SQUEEZED OUT, OKAY, THEY GET 10 MONTHS AND THEN THE PRINCIPAL KICKED IN SOME OTHER MONEY AND GOT 11 MONTHS.
THAT IS RIDICULOUS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO THAT.
ALL OF THE PEOPLE DOING THIS SHOULD BE AT LEAST 11 MONTH EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO THE WORK TO DO THIS.
AND WE HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM, BUT WE GOTTA SUPPORT THE KIDS IN IT TO DO IT.
AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE HAVE A GOOD PROGRAM, THE FIRST THING WE WANNA DO IS TRY TO NICKEL AND DIME AND SAVE SOME MONEY AND PULL SOME RESOURCES FROM IT.
WHY ARE WE MESSING WITH IT? SO I'M, I'M ABSOLUTELY GONNA VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I'M ENTIRELY DISAPPOINTED THAT IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE REDUCED THE HOURS FOR THESE PEOPLE DOING THE COORDINATIONS BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE DOING THE OPPOSITE.
WE SHOULD BE GIVING THESE KIDS MORE SUPPORT AND MORE COORDINATION GOING INTO THIS.
SO I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THESE THINGS, BUT I HOPE IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WE ARE NOT GONNA DO THIS.
AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE ISSUE OF HAVING 11 MONTH EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS KIND OF THING, BUT IT'S WHAT OUR KIDS NEED.
IF WE CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KIDS WHO AREN'T ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED, WHO AREN'T STRUGGLING, THEY DON'T NEED THIS.
IT'S THE KIDS WHO NEED THIS THE MOST THAT WE'RE TAKING IT AWAY FROM AND WE'RE TAKING IT AWAY FROM IT'S 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA PAY SOMEONE AN EXTRA MONTH.
AND THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO BE DOING FOR THE KIDS THAT NEED IT THE MOST.
I'VE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE AS WELL.
I, I KIND OF WANTED TO, UM, FOLLOW UP ON MR. GO DAY'S STATEMENTS.
AND MR. SMITH, MAYBE IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.
LIKE RIGHT NOW, WHAT DOES THAT, AND JUST A REMINDER FOR US, WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THIS PROCESS LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS OUR BUDGET IS CONCERNED? AND THEN ALSO I KNOW THAT WE KIND OF, UM, BOUNCED AROUND THE IDEA OF GRADUATION COACHES THAT ASSIST WITH THESE TYPES OF DUAL ENROLLMENT.
UM, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT PREPARE STUDENTS FOR COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS, AND DO WE OFFER THAT AT OUR SCHOOLS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS? JUST CURIOUS ABOUT ALL ALL THE THINGS IN REGARDS TO THAT.
I'LL START WITH THE LAST QUESTIONS.
WE NO LONGER HAVE THE GRADUATION CLOSURES AT OUR SCHOOL, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS.
BUT TO ADDRESS MR. GODDE CONCERN, I UNDERSTAND HIS PASSION.
UH, WITH MEETING WITH STAFF WHO WERE WORKING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
WHEN I ASKED FOR THE DATA, WHAT I FOUND THAT THERE WAS SEVERAL SCHOOLS WHO WERE NOT EVEN DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIDS IN THE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES.
AND I THINK I MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THAT TO YOU.
AND THROUGH MY CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, WITH, WITH PRINCIPALS, I HAD THE DIVISION OF SCHOOL LEADERSHIP, UH, INTERIM CHIEF SPEAK WITH MANY OF THE PRINCIPALS.
AND WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THAT THEY WERE USING THOSE POSITIONS IN MANY DIFFERENT OTHER CAPACITIES.
AND SO WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO IS TO CENTRALIZE THAT POSITION.
SO WE DO HAVE THE ACADEMIC COORDINATORS, BUT THEY'RE WORKING FROM A CENTRAL OFFICE STAND, UH, STANDPOINT.
AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OF, OF WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE DOING.
MAY I RESPOND VERY QUICKLY WITH YOUR PLEASURE? YES.
THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ANSWER.
I DON'T CONSIDER THAT AN ADEQUATE ANSWER BECAUSE WHY DO YOU HAVE PRINCIPALS WHO AREN'T WORKING WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE TO HELP THE KIDS THAT THEY NEED? IF YOU HAVE PRINCIPLES THAT AREN'T HELPING DUAL ENROLLMENT, THAT AREN'T PUSHING DUAL ENROLLMENT, THAT AREN'T USING THE PEOPLE THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE USED, THEN WE NEED TO BE GETTING ON THE PRINCIPLES AS TO WHY THEY'RE NOT.
AND WHEN I WAS ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF THIS INFORMATION, IT WAS, I WAS BROUGHT ON IN JANUARY AND WHEN I ASKED FOR THE DATA, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE YEAR HAD AND KIDS WERE IN COURSES.
BUT HOWEVER, MOVING FORWARD, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE RESTRUCTURED IT, TO ALLOW THOSE COORDINATORS TO WORK FROM A CENTRAL LOCATION FROM CENTRAL OFFICE.
SO INSTEAD OF MAKING THE PRINCIPAL DO THEIR JOB, YOU BROUGHT IT INTO THE CENTRAL OFFICE.
NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
WE WILL NOW TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
UM, I, UH, AM NOT UNEQUIVOCALLY OPPOSED TO DUAL ENROLLMENT AND I JUST REALLY WANNA PROVIDE SORT OF SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING SOURCE.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I STARTED COLLEGE AND TUITION
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WAS $796 A SEMESTER.AND SOME OF US WHO ARE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES AND PUBLIC COLLEGES WERE ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, FOR ALL WHO ADMITTED, AND THAT'S ONE OF MY TENANTS, RIGHT? WHO COLLEGES PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES SHOULD BE FREE TO ALL WHO ARE QUALIFIED TO ENROLL.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THOSE IDEALS I WILL CLING TO.
AND SO IN THAT NOTION FOR DUAL ENROLLMENT TO BE OFFERED IN, IN PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS, IT WAS OFFERED WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, PEOPLE HAD TO PAY OUT OF POCKET.
AND I COULD SEE HOW THAT WOULD BE A BARRIER FOR THOSE FROM LOW INCOME FAMILIES.
AND SO HOW LOVELY IF WE COULD OFFER IT THROUGH A PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, BUT I IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, IDEALLY FOR OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM TO BE PAYING THOSE TUITION BILLS BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, OUR PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES HAVE BEEN GUTTED.
I MEAN, THEIR FUNDING SOURCES HAVE BEEN REALLY UNDERMINED OVER THE PAST DECADE AND A HALF OR SO.
AND SO THIS UNFORTUNATELY BECOMES WHAT APPEARS TO BE A, A WAY TO SORT OF ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE.
SO IF IN MOVING FORWARD, I HOPE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, IF THEY TRULY VALUE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS, UM, THAT THEY WOULD FIND A FUNDING SOURCE SEPARATE FROM OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS WHO ARE ALSO BEING GUTTED.
AND SO THAT WE CAN GENUINELY PROVIDE, UM, EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL THE CHILDREN IN AN EQUITABLE MANNER IN THIS STATE.
AND, UM, I STILL AM NOT FOR MANDATORY DUAL ENROLLMENT, BUT ELECTIVE ENROLLMENT IN THE PROGRAM.
BUT OTHERWISE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LOOK A MINUTE AND 14 SECONDS LEFT.
WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING ON, ON DUAL ENROLLMENT 'CAUSE IT THE WAY IT'S BEING RUN NOW SINCE PARENTS ARE BEING GIVEN A CHOICE, THAT'S GREAT, IT'S WONDERFUL, IT'S COPACETIC.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT A CERTAIN BOARD MEMBER WHEN IT FIRST BEGAN, SAID, LET'S HAVE THE COACHES FOR THIS YEAR WHILE WE HAVE, THEY HAVE SOME MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS A BIG DEAL SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THIS MONEY FOR THE LONGEVITY.
IT'S, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO KEEP IT GOING.
LET'S DO IT JUST THIS YEAR WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT.
WHY, WHY STOP FOR THE, FOR THE GREAT, FOR THE PERFECT WHEN WE CAN DO THE GOOD.
SO TO GIVE THAT SPEECH TODAY AND THEN TAKE THAT CUT AT MY SUPERINTENDENT TODAY.
UM, I THINK THIS, UM, THESE AGREEMENTS ARE NECESSARY AND FAR FROM SUFFICIENT.
I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD COME BACK WITH AN INFORMATION ONLY REPORT AT THE AUGUST COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE DESCRIBING WHO PARTICIPATED IN WHAT CLASSES AT WHAT SCHOOL, UH, IN THE ACADEMIC YEAR JUST COMPLETED.
AND THEN AT LEAST BY SEPTEMBER, GIVE A REPORT OF WHAT COURSES ARE BEING OFFERED TO HOW MANY STUDENTS AT WHICH SCHOOL.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT DUAL ENROLLMENT BE SUPPORTED TO THOSE STUDENTS THAT ARE READY TO DO IT AND INTERESTED TO DO IT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT MS. MATTHEWS SAID, DON'T MAKE IT MANDATORY AND DON'T GIVE STUDENTS A HORRIBLE, UM, COLLEGE RECORD WHEN THEY'RE 12 YEARS OLD OR WHATEVER.
UM, SO I WOULD HOPE THAT IN SEPTEMBER YOU'D HAVE A NICE SALARY REPORT OF ALL THE INTERESTING OFFERINGS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED THROUGH DUE ENROLLMENT AND A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON HOW THE FUNDING WORKS AND IF IT'S ALL FULLY REIMBURSED BY THE, UM, BY BESSIE IN SOME WAY.
BUT I KNOW YOU NEED TO GET ON, SO I WILL SHUT UP.
GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE RELATED TO THE, NOT ONLY THIS ISSUE, BUT UM, THE FINANCIAL DEFICITS TO ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS EVENING AT THIS MEETING.
UH, LET ME GENTLY AND HUMBLY REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WASTE $35 MILLION BUSING CHILDREN ACROSS TOWN WHEN THEY'RE PASSING UP WHAT, 10 DIFFERENT SCHOOL BUILDINGS THAT THEY, THEY COULD BE ATTENDING AND THEY COULD BE GOING TO SCHOOL IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE, WHY AREN'T, UH, ALL OF YOU BOARD MEMBERS BEING EXTRAORDINARILY ZEALOUS RELATED TO CEASING THIS WASTE OF MONEY ON BUSING? UH, WE, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY FREE UP A LOT OF MONEY TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE OTHER CONCERNS.
NOW OF COURSE, THE, THE ITEM THAT WE'RE ON THAT'S IN REGARDS TO DUAL ENROLLMENT, I'M, I'M, BUT MA'AM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCING DUAL ENROLLMENT
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AND NOT ONLY JUST DUAL ENROLLMENT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT AS I'VE SAT HERE AND LISTENED QUITE, UH, INTENTLY.UH, WE'RE SO, SO LET'S GET TO DUAL ENROLLMENT.
UH, FINANCIAL ISSUES WITH DUAL ENROLLMENT.
IF YOU WOULD STOP WASTING $35 MILLION ABUSING CHILDREN TO HAVE TO WAIT IN THE DARK TO RIDE A BUS UNNECESSARILY ACROSS TOWN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO BE FINANCIALLY, UH, ASTUTE, INTELLIGENT WITH OUR MONEY, YOU WOULD IMMEDIATELY CEASE ABUSING OUR AS STUDENTS AND OUR CITIZENS, OUR YOUNG CITIZENS, UH, OUR SCHOLARS AND RESIDENTS, AND STOP BUSTING THEM AND STOP WASTING OUR MONEY IN THIS VEIN AND REALLOCATED TO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THINGS.
AH, I'VE GOT A MINUTE AND 25 SECONDS FROM THANK YOU MR. STEWART.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
UM, I GUESS I WON'T GO AS FAR AS, UH, BOARD MEMBER GO DAY, BUT I DO HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME SENTIMENTS.
WHEN WE STARTED OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, MUCH OF IT WAS DESIGNED AROUND, UH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT OF THAT WAS ALSO TIED TO DUAL ENROLLMENT.
I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE, AND JUST LET ME SAY THIS, I DON'T, I DON'T FAULT THIS OR DROP THIS AT YOUR FEET.
UH, SUPERINTENDENT SMITH, YOU ARE ONLY REACTING TO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU RECEIVED.
AND IT'S UNFAIR TO PUT IT ALL AT YOUR FEET.
BUT WHAT I WILL ALSO SAY IS TO THOSE SCHOOLS WHO DON'T HAVE STUDENTS THAT ARE FILLING ALL OF THOSE BLOCKS, I DON'T THINK THAT WE DWINDLE IT AND TAKE IT AWAY.
I THINK WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GO HARDER AT TRY TO GET KIDS ENROLLED INSIDE OF THOSE PROGRAMS. WHAT WE KNOW IS OUR STUDENTS NEED MORE RIGOR.
ANYBODY THAT SPEAKS AGAINST THAT, I HAVE A FIRM DISBELIEF TOWARDS NOT GIVING THEM MORE RIGOR.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT GRADUATING FROM SCHOOL, THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS WHO ARE BEHIND ON GRADE LEVEL.
I THINK THAT THIS JUST GIVES THEM MORE ATTAINMENT TO TRY TO BE MORE SUCCESSFUL WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE OF SCHOOL.
BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB.
IF YOU ASK THE AVERAGE PARENT WHAT IS DUAL ENROLLMENT, THEY WOULDN'T TELL YOU.
THEY COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.
BUT WE'RE PUSHING KIDS TO GO INTO DUAL ENROLLMENT.
AND THEN WHEN IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL, THAT'S WHEN WE GET TO THESE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS.
SO WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR FROM THE DISTRICT IS LET'S HAVE DIALOGUE.
BETTER HAVE WORKSHOPS AROUND HOW THIS BENEFITS KIDS.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTS AROUND MANDATORY VERSUS NOT MANDATORY.
WHAT I WOULD SIMPLY ASK YOU IS TO GO INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THOSE KIDS DON'T HAVE THOSE TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES.
WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME AND YOU BASE IT ON, UH, WHO FALLS BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.
AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S MORE KIDS THAT FALL UNDER THE POVERTY LINE INSIDE OF THIS DISTRICT THAT ARE ABOVE THE POVERTY LINE.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE DIVISION FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO DO LIVE ABOVE THE POVERTY LINE OF THEIR FAMILIES BECAUSE WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT WHAT I WILL ALSO SAY IS THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE SOMETHING BIG HAPPEN, CONNECTING THE DOTS AND CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN UNIVERSITIES WHO ARE INSIDE OF OUR CITY, WHO HISTORICALLY WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP WITH.
AND WHAT WE DO IS WE CREATE A NEW PIPELINE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS WHO HAVE HISTORICALLY NEVER HAD THAT LEVEL OF OPPORTUNITY.
WHAT I, WHAT WE DIDN'T HEAR TONIGHT IS HOW MANY KIDS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE GRADUATED WITH A DIPLOMA AND AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE? 'CAUSE IF YOU COME TO A SCHOOL IN MY DISTRICT, GLEN OAKS HIGH SCHOOL, JUST LAST YEAR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT WAS REPORTED 24 KIDS.
AND TO ME THAT IS SUCCESS AT A SCHOOL THAT HAS HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN LOW IN THE BOTTOM OF THE TOTEM POLE.
IT'S THE SAME SCHOOL THAT MANY PEOPLE SAID, THOSE KIDS ARE NOT GOING TO GRADUATE.
AND THEN WE SAT IN HERE LAST YEAR AND WE HEARD OF A KID WHO ALREADY HAD OVER A 3.0 AND OVER 12 HOURS OF COLLEGE CREDIT, MEANING BEFORE SHE GRADUATES, SHE'S NOW A JUNIOR, SHE'S CUT HER DEBT.
AND I LOOK AT THOSE TYPE OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS ALL ACROSS OUR DISTRICT.
WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PUSHING THE INFORMATION OUT AND LETTING PARENTS KNOW THE BENEFIT AND OPPORTUNITIES OF WHAT THIS CAN DO.
I HAVE ANSWERED INTO THE QUEUE AS WELL.
UM, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD IN REGARDS TO THIS TODAY.
I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO MY COLLEAGUES.
I KNOW MR. GODDE, I YIELDED MY TIME TO YOU AND I KNOW WE ALWAYS SAY WE DON'T YIELD EACH OTHER'S TIME.
SO I WANTED, WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAME TO MY MIND IN REGARDS TO THIS.
UM, I WAS BLESSED TO HAVE A SON WHO WAS ACTUALLY IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WAS TAKING HIGH SCHOOL CREDIT CLASSES.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME WITH THAT, I OFTEN HAD TO REMIND HIM THAT THE CLASSES THAT HE WAS TAKING FOR HIGH SCHOOL CREDIT WOULD BE ON HIS PERMANENT TRANSCRIPT AS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT.
AND THE FACT THAT HE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE MADE THE BEST GRADE THAT HE COULD, SO THAT WAY IT WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT HIS GPA ON HIS PERMANENT
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HIGH SCHOOL TRANSCRIPT.I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO BETTER AT THAT, UM, WITH EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS AND EDUCATING THE PARENTS AS WELL ON WHY IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OUR KIDS UNDERSTAND THE LONG-TERM EFFECT OF TAKING A HIGH SCHOOL CREDIT CLASS ON A MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL AND A COLLEGE CREDIT CLASS ON A HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.
WITH THAT IN MIND, I HAVE ALSO GOTTEN A CHANCE TO PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF MY STUDENTS WHO HAVE GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND TRANSFERRED TO A COLLEGE FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITY AND HAD A VERY INTERESTING EYE-OPENING EXPERIENCE OF FEELING LIKE THEY WERE NOT FULLY PREPARED FOR COLLEGE.
AND SO WE NEED TO BE MORE STRATEGIC AND INTENTIONAL WITH HOW WE PREPARE OUR KIDS.
THEN ALSO WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS THE FACT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ACADEMIC COORDINATORS TODAY.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GRADUATION COACHES TODAY, AND THEN WHAT WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT IS THE EVALUATION PROCESS OR THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS FOR HOLDING SCHOOL LEADERS, SCHOOL SITE LEADERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE WITHIN THEIR SCHOOLS.
UM, I KNOW THAT I ASKED THIS QUESTION QUITE A BIT LAST YEAR, AND I'M, I'M STILL ASKING IT TODAY, UM, TO OUR DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION THAT WE DOCUMENT COMPLIANCE, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT PRINCIPALS ARE HOLDING THEIR STAFF ACCOUNTABLE, AND THEN THAT WE ARE HOLDING, THAT OUR DISTRICT LEADERSHIP IS HOLDING THE, THE PRINCIPALS ACCOUNTABLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE AND A DOCUMENT DOCUMENTATION PROCESS IN PLACE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE UTILIZED ALL OF THE, THE NECESSARY ARENAS TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS, AND THAT WE CAN SAY THAT YES, THIS CHILD SET THROUGH DUAL ENROLLMENT, YES, THIS AND THIS, WHATEVER THE METRICS ARE, THAT WE HAVE THOSE THINGS DONE, THAT WE DON'T COME TO THIS MEETING TODAY AND SAY WE NEED TO HOLD THE PRINCIPALS ACCOUNTABLE, THAT THAT SHOULD BE AN ONGOING PROCESS.
AND SO I WANT US TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
I ALSO WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO INCLUDING MY ALMA MATER IN THIS PROCESS.
I KNOW THAT FOR A WHILE WE HAD DUAL ENROLLMENT AND SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY WAS NOT AT THE TABLE.
I'M THANKFUL THAT WE ARE INCLUDING OUR HBCUS IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, ALSO, UH, WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION IN REGARDS TO THIS IS JUST THAT WE, I DO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO BE OFFERING THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO KIDS.
MY QUESTION, THOUGH IS IF, ARE WE UTILIZING THIS AS FAR AS HAVING COLLEGE PROFESSORS PROVIDING INSTRUCTION? IS THAT THE MAJORITY THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING INSTRUCTION THROUGH A VIRTUAL PLATFORM? OR ARE WE EMPOWERING OUR TEACHERS ON OUR CAMPUSES TO BE ABLE TO GET THE DUAL ENROLLMENT CERTIFICATION SO THAT WAY THEY CAN MAKE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND ALSO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GROW IN THE AREA OF DUAL ENROLLMENT? BECAUSE THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES AS WELL.
LIKE, OR, OR OUR KIDS COMFORTABLE IN THE CLASSES, AND IF THEY ARE NOT PASSING THE LEAP THAT IS SEEING, THAT IS SEEING SOMETHING VERY CLEAR THAT IF YOU'RE PASSING A DUAL ENROLLMENT CLASS AND YOU CAN'T READ HOW YOU PASSING CLASS.
SO I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THIS FULLY.
I SEE THAT YOU BE, BEFORE MS. OEY COMES UP, I WANT TO JUST MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN AWAY ACCESS TO ANY DUAL ENROLLMENT FOR ANY STUDENTS IN THE, THE PARISH.
MY CONVERSATION, UH, WITH OUR BOARD MEMBER GOD DAY, IS THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A SENSE OF URGENCY, AND I DO BELIEVE IN DUAL, HAVING PROVIDED ACCESS TO THOSE STUDENTS WHO CAN TAKE THOSE DUAL WORK COURSES, WE FELT STRONGLY BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE SAW, WE NEED TO MONITOR HOW THOSE INDIVIDUAL ACADEMIC COORDINATORS WERE SPENDING THEIR TIME BECAUSE THEY DIRECTLY REPORT TO PRINCIPALS.
BUT THIS IS A DISTRICT INITIATIVE, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE RESTRUCTURED.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE STILL IN THE FIELD.
THEY STILL WILL BE PROVIDING SUPPORT TO THE SCHOOLS, BUT WE FELT NOT TO CONTINUE AROUND THE SAME PATH, BUT TO RESTRUCTURE IT TO WHERE WE HAD MORE CONTROL OR HOW THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE SPENDING THEIR TIME SUPPORTING KIDS.
AND JUST TO ADDRESS THE, THE, THE, THE CONCERN AROUND STUDENTS TAKING DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES AND NOT PASSING A LEAP OR NOT STRUGGLING WITH A LEAP IS ALL ACADEMICS.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO WHERE THERE WERE SUPPORT STRUCTURES IN PLACE AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL TO ENSURE THAT THOSE KIDS WERE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES.
SO I JUST WANNA NEGATE THAT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE KID DIDN'T PASS THE LEAD TEST, THAT THE DISTRICT DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT, THOSE INSTRUC AND SUPPORT STRUCTURES WERE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE KIDS WHO WERE SUCCESSFUL IN THOSE
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COURSES.BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE MS. CON AROUND THE HOW WE PROVIDING THEIR SERVICE, WHETHER IT'S IN PERSON, VIRTUALLY, SHE CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
GOOD EVENING, I'M PINCH HITTING FOR MS. LEVIT WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.
BUT, UH, IN A PREVIOUS ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, I MANAGE THE SCA FUNDS AND THE DUAL ENROLLMENT MOUS.
WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT EACH OF 'EM IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE PARENT UNIVERSITY.
YOU'LL SEE IT BY SCHOOL BECAUSE WHAT LSU DOES IS THE STUDENT OF THE TEACHER BECOMES THE STUDENT.
THE TEACHER GOES TO A COURSE OVER THE SUMMER AT LSU AND BECOMES CERTIFIED TO TEACH THE COURSE.
AND THERE IS LIKE FOR LSU, FOR, UH, SOUTHEASTERN IS ANOTHER ONE.
SOUTHEASTERN PROVIDES A STIPEND TO THE TEACHER.
SO IT IS, AS TO MS. POWELL LEWIS'S POINT, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR TEACHERS TO GET JOB EMBEDDED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, TO GET SOME SUMMER COURSEWORK UNDER THEIR BELT AND TO CONTINUE THEIR GROWTH PLAN.
THE BOARD OF REGENTS DOES HAVE A DUAL ENROLLMENT POLICY THAT YOU'LL SEE REFERENCED IN OUR PUPIL PROGRESSION.
MS PAULO'S POINT GIVES THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TEACHER FOR CERTAIN COURSES.
SO WHERE THE UNIVERSITY ALLOWS IT AND WHERE WE CAN DO THAT.
OUR FIRST CHOICE IS TO USE OUR TEACHER.
NOW, CERTAIN, CERTAIN COURSES, CERTAIN UNIVERSITIES, I'LL FRAN YOU WITH SOME OF THE MEDICAL, UH, COURSES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
YOU HAVE TO RELY ON THEIR EXPERTISE.
BUT YOU'LL SEE, THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE AT LSU, IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE IN THOSE BACK PAGES THAT'LL NAME THE TEACHERS WHO HAVE BEEN TRAINED, OKAY.
AND THE SAME THING WITH SOUTHEASTERN.
THERE'S A STIPEND THAT THEY GET EACH SEMESTER.
YEAH, IT KINDA SOUNDS LIKE THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION, IT KIND OF SOUNDS, SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE BUILDING AN AIRPLANE IN MID-FLIGHT.
WHAT WE NEED IN EBR FROM THE DAY ONE THAT A KID ENTERS SCHOOL, THERE NEEDS TO BE A BLUEPRINT OF WHAT WE WANT THAT KID TO LOOK LIKE 12 YEARS LATER.
WE NEED TO DESIGN, YOU CAN CALL IT A, A STUDENT BLUEPRINT, A GRADUATION BLUEPRINT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
BUT AS A GOVERNING BODY, AS A SCHOOL BOARD, WE NEED TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT AN EBR GRADUATE WILL LOOK LIKE FROM ELEMENTARY MATRICULATES TO MIDDLE TO HIGH.
AND BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE READY FOR DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES, MS. POWELL'S SON MAY BE A MIDDLE SCHOOL, SOMEBODY ELSE'S CHILD MAY BE A NINTH GRADER, BUT THEY ARE ON A TRACK.
THEY'VE BEEN ON A TRACK THEIR ENTIRE SCHOOL TIME, THEIR ENTIRE TIME IN SCHOOL TO BECOME WHAT WE WANT THEM TO BECOME, WHAT WE ALL ASPIRE FOR THEM TO BECOME.
SOME OF THESE KIDS WILL BE COLLEGE GRADUATES, SOME OF THEM WILL NOT, BUT THEY WILL STILL REFLECT THE VALUES OF THIS DISTRICT THAT WE ARE PUTTING FORTH.
THEN WE STARTED FROM GROUND ZERO.
AND WHEN THAT PLANE TAKES FLIGHT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SITE WE WON'T BE ARGUING ABOUT, OR I'M SORRY, WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING HOW THE KID, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY GOT THERE, HOW THEY DIDN'T GET THERE.
SO AGAIN, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID UP HERE, BUT LET'S START AT GROUND ZERO AND DEVELOP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, GRADE BY GRADE, SCHOOL BY SCHOOL.
THEN WE CAN SIT HERE AND BE PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.
WHETHER THEY'RE ABOVE THE POVERTY LINE, BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, OR SITTING SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
BECAUSE IT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, DARRIS, IT IS ABOUT EDUCATION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT EDUCATION.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECEIVED A EQUITABLE, FAIR QUALITY EDUCATION.
MORE THAN TWO MINUTES LEFT, COACH.
I, I AGREE WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
I THINK YOU SEE, THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN PUSHING EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND DOING ALL THOSE THINGS.
BUT WE GOT, I KNOW WE MIGHT BE BUILDING AN AIRPLANE, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT'S FLYING, BUT THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST ON SOME OF THIS SOMETIMES BECAUSE WE CAN'T STOP THE WORLD FOR
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TWO YEARS AND, AND DESIGN ALL THIS BECAUSE THESE KIDS ARE GROWING AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING.SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE, BUT WE DON'T LIVE IN UTOPIA.
WE GOTTA DO THE BEST WE CAN AND DRIVE AS HARD AS WE CAN.
BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES THAT I HAVE THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF PROGRAM THAT IS SUCCESSFUL.
IT IS DOING SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN FULLY EMBRACED BY OUR DISTRICT.
WE'VE GOT SOME PRINCIPALS OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT DOING IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GONNA BE PART OF OUR DNA.
IT'S GOT TO BE FULLY PART OF OUR DNA AND THAT IS NOT BRINGING IT INTO THE CENTRAL OFFICE.
IT IS KEEPING IT OUT AT THE SCHOOLS WHERE THE SCHOOLS HAVE TO RUN IT.
THE SCHOOLS HAVE TO OWN IT, AND THE SCHOOLS HAVE TO DO ALL OF THE WORK BECAUSE BRINGING IT INTO THE CENTRAL OFFICE AND THREE YEARS FROM NOW, IT'LL BE GONE.
THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING HERE.
WE STARTED A BEAUTIFUL PROGRAM THAT HAD A DUAL LANGUAGE ENROLLMENT WHERE IT WAS SPANISH AND ENGLISH, WHERE THEY STARTED OFF IN A PILOT, COUPLE OF PILOT PROGRAMS. I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT PROGRAM IS STILL RUNNING NOW.
BUT IT HASN'T BEEN SPREAD ANYWHERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T EMBRACED.
WE HAVE SO MANY PROGRAMS THAT GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS SAID IT TAKES THREE TO FIVE YEARS TO GET A PROGRAM OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR YOU CAN HAVE A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE EMBRACE IT AND TRY TO PUSH IT.
THE SECOND YEAR, YOU MAY HAVE TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA TRY TO PUSH IT BY THE THIRD YEAR.
THAT LAST THIRD, MAYBE YOU'LL SAY, WELL, HELL, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S SO FRUSTRATING.
WE HAVE SO MANY GOOD THINGS AND BRINGING IT INTO, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW PEOPLE OUT SITTING OUT IN THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW.
I CAN POINT TO 'EM THAT SAY, WE OUGHT TO GET RID OF THE CENTRAL OFFICE ALTOGETHER.
BUT BRINGING IT INTO THE CENTRAL OFFICE IS NOT AN ANSWER.
AND HAD I BEEN AWARE OF THIS, I'D HAVE REALLY SPOKEN UP MUCH MORE FOR FORCEFULLY IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
BUT THAT IS THE KIND OF THINKING THAT WE CAN'T HAVE.
WE HAVE TO GET THIS DOWN TO THE SCHOOL LEVELS WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE BOUGHT INTO IT, THE TEACHERS ARE BOUGHT INTO IT, AND THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR THE KIDS.
AND SO I, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO VOTE FOR ALL THIS AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
I'M GONNA REALLY PUSH TO, TO CHANGE ALL OF THAT AND GET IT BACK DOWN TO THE SCHOOL LEVEL.
'CAUSE THIS NEEDS TO BE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS FOOTBALL, AS BASKETBALL AS ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS NEEDS TO BE RUN AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL.
UM, SO MR. LANDIS, YOU OKAY? ALRIGHT.
THIS IS THE SECOND RIGHT? YES.
DID I SPEAK FIRST ALREADY? YOU DID.
UM, I DON'T WANNA REPEAT ANYTHING THAT MY COLLEAGUES, UH, SHARED, BUT I DO AGREE, BUT I DO DO WANNA ASK THAT IF WE COULD FORMULATE SOME TYPE OF UNIFORMITY WITH, UH, THE DISTRICT ACROSS WITH THESE PROGRAMS AS FAR AS THE MARKETING OF IT, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD PROMOTE IT A LITTLE BETTER AND THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE PUT SOME PARAMETERS GUARD WELLS ON IT.
BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE ANALOGY WITH THE FOOTBALL, THE SPORTS, YOU STILL HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT AT THE SCH AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL TO ENSURE THAT IT'S TRICKLING DOWN AT THE SCHOOL SCHOOL LEVEL.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE REASONS WHY WE BROUGHT IN, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS KIND OF DOING THEIR OWN THING.
MIKE, I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT ABOUT FOOTBALL AND NOT ME THIS TIME.
UM, ALSO I'LL JUST SHARE TOO, UM, COACH WAS REALLY DESCRIBING THERE IS, THERE IS A PROGRAM OUT THERE THAT IS CALLED PROFILE OF A GRADUATE.
UM, SO THAT WAY IN THE CASE THAT ANYONE WANTED TO DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH, YOU COULD, THERE IS A, A MODEL OUT THERE THAT'S CALLED PROFILE OF A GRADUATE.
UM, CONSIDERING THAT THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL BOARD COMMENTS, WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
AND THIS IS ON THE MOUS FOR DUAL ENROLLMENT.
[E.5. Professional Services Contract: AVID Center]
SERVICES CONTRACT.AVID CENTER CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL BOARD AND AVID CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $77,233 TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUAL GRADUATION PLANNING, SUPPORT AND PROFESSIONAL LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES,
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STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT, STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT FUNDING SOURCE REDESIGN.IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. LEWIS AND SECONDED BY MR. LANIS COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
THERE'S AN AUDIO DELAY DOWN THE HALL.
UM, MY CONCERN WITH THIS IN THE NEXT ITEM IS THAT THE BACKUP IS NOT VERY CLEAR ON WHERE IN THE SPECIAL FUND BOOK YOU WOULD FIND THE REDESIGN BUDGET THAT THIS PERTAINS TO AND HOW ELSE THAT MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
THAT LACK OF CLARITY ON THE BUDGET IS A LONGSTANDING ISSUE THAT I WOULD HOPE WOULD GET ADDRESSED SOON.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR COMMENTS ON THIS CONTRACT.
JUST THAT TRANSPARENCY IS ESSENTIAL AND YOUR JOB AS A BOARD IS TO ENSURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION UNDERSTANDS THAT.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
I ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE, BUT JUST SO THAT WE COULD, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE WITH DR.
FINNEY THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UM, THE BACKUP IS UPDATED ACCORDINGLY.
MR. LEWIS, WHO WILL PROVIDE THESE SERVICES, WILL THEY BE PROVIDED BY SOMEONE FACE TO FACE OR SOFTWARE? THIS SO WEIRD.
SO THE SERVICES WILL BE BOTH FACE-TO-FACE AND VIRTUAL DOES VIRTUAL REALLY? I DON'T, I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
BUT WHAT IF A, A CHILD DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS? SOME, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, I'VE GOT A CHILD WHO REALLY NEEDS THIS, BUT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNET IN MY HOME.
WILL IT, WILL IT BE PROVIDED AT SCHOOL? SO LET ME BE, UM, JUST A LITTLE CLEAR ON IT.
THIS IS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE TEACHERS.
SO I GUESS THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
AND SO IT IS BOTH VIRTUAL AND IN PERSON.
I UNDERSTOOD AS BEING SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE STUDENTS.
BETHY, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, CAN YOU JUST GIVE A BRIEF IN, UH, EXPLANATION WHAT IS REDESIGN IS THE COMPETITIVE SIDE OF, UH, OKAY.
SO REDESIGN IS A, A PART OF, UH, THE SUPER APP.
IT'S A COMPETITIVE GRANT THAT WE HAD TO APPLY FOR IN JANUARY.
AND REDESIGN IS BASICALLY FOR OUR COMPREHENSIVE AND OUR URGENT INTERVENTION SCHOOLS.
SO THE FUNDING IS IN THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION, BUT IT'S UNDER THE, UH, SPECIAL REVENUE UNDER, UM, SUPER APP WHERE YOU FIND TITLE ONE.
YOU'LL SEE THE REDESIGN BUDGET AS IN THAT DOCUMENT.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE ON ITEM SIX, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT.
[E.6. Professional Services Contract: National Institute for Excellence in Teaching (NIET)]
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR EXCELLENCE IN TEACHING NIET.CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL BOARD AND THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR EXCELLENCE IN TEACHING IN IET IN THE AMOUNT OF $419,000.
UH, $419,250 FOR SUPPORT AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT ON SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT, BEST PRACTICES, STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT, STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT, FUNDING, SOURCE REDESIGN.
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IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. BALLOU AND SECONDED BY MR. RUSS.COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? I'M ENTERING INTO THE QUEUE.
MY QUESTION, UM, MR. SMITH, ARE WE REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO UTILIZE NIET IN OUR PROGRAMMING? AND THEN ALSO, IS THIS THE SAME PROGRAM WHERE I KNOW THAT CERTAIN DISTRICTS ARE USING, UM, WITH PROVIDING MASTER AND MENTOR TEACHERS WITHIN THEIR SCHOOLS? UH, BOTH ANSWERS IS YES.
UH, NIT IS REQUIRED FOR THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE NEED ASSESSMENT AND UR AND, UM, THERE ARE TWO VENDORS AS I CAN APPRECIATE THAT'S ON THE STATE LIST AND THE DISTRICT WE HAVE ELECTED TO USE THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR.
AGAIN, THE FUNDING IS, CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THOSE TWO VENDORS THAT ARE ON THE STATE'S VENDORS LIST.
MY NEXT QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE IN REGARDS TO, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD KIND OF PROVIDED THIS OR BROUGHT THIS TOWARDS OUR TEACHER PANELS.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE STATING IS THAT THIS IS FOR OUR MOST LOW PERFORMING SCHOOLS.
SO THEN THAT WOULD NOT GO BEFORE THE, THE, THE TEACHER ADVISORY PANEL, CORRECT? YES.
BECAUSE AS A MANDATE FROM THE STATE, UH, IT IS ONLY NATURAL THAT WE USE THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR ALSO, AS WE MOVE INTO OUR, UM, EVALUATION RUBRIC, IS THE SAME VENDOR FOR OUR TEACHER AND ADMINISTRATOR, UH, UH, EVALUATION RUBRIC THAT THE STATE IS MOVING TO.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, MR. LANIS? YES.
UH, SUPERINTENDENT SMITH, THIS IS A QUESTION I HAVE.
WE DO, WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND WITHIN CENTRAL OFFICE, CORRECT? WE DO.
I JUST AM CURIOUS HOW IS THIS ALIGNED WITH OUR CURRENT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM? IF WE ARE OUTSOURCED AND OR WE'RE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND ASKING 'EM TO COME IN AND DO THE WORK.
ALSO, JUST CASE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE OUTSOURCING WHAT THE STATE HAS DECIDED FOR THOSE SCHOOLS WHO ARE LOW PERFORMING.
THAT DISTRICTS MUST USE ONE OF TWO VENDORS THAT ARE ON THEIR LIST.
SO IT'S A REQUIREMENT FROM THE STATE.
THAT, AND THAT'S INFORMATION FROM ME.
SEEING NO FURTHER BOARD COMMENT, WE WILL NOW TURN TO COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC.
SEEING NONE AT THIS TIME, WE'LL RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
[E.7. RFP Selection: OLOL/Health Care Centers in Schools Inc]
EIGHT, RFP SELECTION, OLOL HEALTHCARE CENTERS IN SCHOOLS INCORPORATED CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE RFP COMMITTEE AND TO AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT AND STAFF TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH OLOL HEALTHCARE CENTERS IN SCHOOLS INCORPORATED TO SUPPLY A QUALIFIED PHYSICIAN TO PROVIDE MEDICAL OVERSIGHT FOR THE SCHOOL NURSING PROGRAM.IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MS. STEWART AND SECONDED BY MR. RUSS.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
ALL RIGHT, ONCE AGAIN, CALLING FROM MS. CHARICE SMITH.
NOT SEEING MS. UH, CHERIE SMITH.
UM, MR. STEWART, AND YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THIS ITEM? CORRECT.
HE DIDN'T WRITE ANYTHING BUT HIS NAME.
UM, DON'T FORGIVE MR. STEWART, MADAM PRESIDENT AND THE REMAINDER OF THE BOARD.
AGAIN, RELATED TO INTRODUCING THESE TOPICS AND TO ANY TOPIC THAT THE BOARD
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IS DISCUSSING, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD, UH, SHARE WITH US WHAT YOUR ACRONYMS MEAN AND, UH, I WILL BEGIN WITH MYSELF AND, UM, PROBABLY JUST ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND YOUR, UH, AND THE LISTENING AUDIENCE IN ITS ENTIRETY, WE HAVE ABSOLUTE NO CLUE WHAT RFP IS.UH, MR. SHAMBLIN, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, WOULD YOU, WILL YOU PLEASE TELL US WHAT RFP STANDS FOR AND OL OIL
AND NOT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.
SO WE USE A LOT OF ACRONYMS. IT'S A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOARD TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE WHO REVIEWED THOSE REQUESTS AND THEY'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR APPROVAL POINT OF INFORMATION.
CAN YOU ALSO EXPLAIN WHAT AN RFQ IS? ALSO, IT'S A REQUEST FOR QUOTES AND QUALIFICATIONS.
IT'S A REQUEST FOR QUOTES AND QUALIFICATIONS.
SO, RFP, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
RFQ, REQUEST FOR QUOTES AND QUALIFICATIONS.
N-O-L-O-L, OUR LADY OF THE LAKE REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER DEVELOPMENT, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, PD.
OH, AND PD IS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND I MENTIONED USE SOME ACRONYMS AS WELL.
UH, SO MR. SMITH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, AND I APOLOGIZE ON THE LAST ITEM, I USED SOME ACRONYMS AS, AS WELL, CIR, WHICH IS COMPREHENSIVE INTERVENTION REQUIRED AND UIR, WHICH IS URGENT INTERVENTION REQUIRED.
EBR EAST BATON ROUGE WENT TO THE
OKAY, MR. LANDIS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK TO MR. STEWART WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY.
SO MS. SMITH, MS. RE, SMITH ONCE AGAIN.
THE NEXT WOULD BE, UM, MS. RENETTA WILLIAMS. OKAY.
UH, SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
MR. SMITH, I SEE THAT YOU'VE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, HE WAIVES ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WITH ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE WILL ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
AND THIS IS ON REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL SELECTION OF OLOL HEALTHCARE CENTERS AND SCHOOLS INCORPORATED.
[E.8. Contract Renewal-Baton Rouge Speech and Hearing Foundation d/b/a The Emerge Center, Inc]
CONTRACT RENEWAL.BATON ROUGE SPEECH AND HEARING FOUNDATION.
DOING BUSINESS AS THE EMERGE CENTER INCORPORATED CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL TO RENEW A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL BOARD AND THE BATON ROUGE SPEECH AND HEARING FOUNDATION DBA DOING BUSINESS AS THE EMERGE CENTER INCORPORATED IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000 TO PROVIDE SPEECH, LANGUAGE AND OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY.
IS THERE A MOTION IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. RUSS? IS THERE A SECOND? IT HAS BEEN SECOND SECONDED BY MR. GODDE.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? MS. STEWART? I JUST WANNA THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO, UM, INQUIRY BECAUSE I RECALL THE LAST TIME WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EMERGE SCHOOL.
IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UH, WHEN THEY INITIALLY CAME ABOUT THAT, UM, THE FUNDING SOURCE WAS SUPPOSED TO EVENTUALLY, UH, BE SHIFTED BACK TO THE SCHOOL.
AND AT THAT TIME I REQUESTED SOME INFORMATION ON A PLAN OF HOW THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE.
UM, IN AGREEMENT OF US, UH, CONTINUING THE FUNDING, HOW IS THE FUNDING PLAN GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED SO THAT WE CAN BE RELEASED FROM THIS OBLIGATION? BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THIS WASN'T THE ORIGINAL PLAN TO CONTINUE YEAR AFTER YEAR.
WE SEE THAT THE TEAM IS HERE FROM, UH, THE EMERGE CENTER IF YOU GUYS WILL COME FORWARD.
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HI, UM, MS. STEWART, I'M DEANNA WHITTLE.I'M THE CHIEF OF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE EMERGENCY CENTER.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE A PLAN AS FAR AS SHIFTING THAT COST BACK TO THE SCHOOL, I'M NOT AWARE OF A PLAN.
WE PROVIDE A SERVICE FROM THE EMERGE CENTER TO THE EMERGE SCHOOL, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER THIRD PARTY VENDOR.
SO THEREFORE YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY A COMPANY TO COME IN AND PROVIDE OT SERVICES, SPEECH SERVICES FOR THE CHILDREN.
SO WE PROVIDE THAT FROM A BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE SCHOOL.
I'M UNDERSTANDING, UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
AND I'M AWARE, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT, UH, THE INITIAL COST THAT I'M REFERENCING, THE UP TO 250,000, THAT INITIALLY THAT COST WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ASSISTED IN AND NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHEN YOU ASSIST A, UH, IF YOU ARE PROVIDING TO YOUR, TO THE EV, OTHER EBR SCHOOLS, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE, A THIRD PARTY VENDOR COMES IN AND PROVIDES PHYSICAL THERAPY.
THEY PROVIDE OT SERVICES AND SPEECH THERAPISTS, AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THEM AT A RATE COMPARABLE TO WHAT YOU PAY EMERGE.
BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND ALL OF THAT DISCUSSION CAME ABOUT AS FAR AS, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S UP INTO THIRD GRADE AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UNDER 50 STUDENTS I KNOW.
AND THESE CHILDREN THAT WE HAVE, UM, ARE IN A VERY STRUCTURED ENVI ENVIRONMENT AND THEY HAVE EXTREME NEEDS.
UM, MOST OF OUR CHILDREN HAVE ONE-ON-ONE THERAPY WITH THEM.
UM, OUR CLASSROOM SIZES ARE SMALL.
THERE'S EIGHT CHILDREN PER CLASS.
UM, OUR CHILDREN NEED A LOT OF STRUCTURE, A LOT OF SUPPORT.
MORE SO THAN YOUR AVERAGE CHILD WOULD NEED.
UM, NO, I, I AGREE THAT THE WORK AS BEING DONE IS NEEDED AND MM-HMM,
UM, BUT I DO RECALL THE REQUEST OF ASKING ABOUT THAT FUNDING.
AND SO FROM WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW, NOTHING HAS BEEN PUT, SHE'S SAYING NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ON THAT.
SO WHEN WE RENEGOTIATED OUR CHARTER LAST YEAR, WE PUT INTO THE CHARTER THAT THE SERVICES WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE EMERGE CENTER.
SO IT WAS NEVER A SITUATION WHERE WE TOOK, UH, DOLLARS AND SAID WE WILL TAKE THOSE, THOSE DOLLARS OVER.
FROM A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES STANDPOINT, WE JUST, UH, WORKED INTO OUR CHARTER AN EXCLUSIVE USE WITH THE EMERGE CENTER TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.
MOSTLY BECAUSE THE STUDENTS, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW AUTISTIC STUDENTS, BUT THE STUDENTS PART OF, PART OF THE STUDENT, THE, THE STUDENTS WITH AUTISM NEED THE SAME STRUCTURE.
CHANGE IS REALLY HARD FOR THEM.
SO PART OF THIS SITUATION IS THAT THE WOULD BE THE SAME THERAPIST ON A DAY IN AND DAY OUT BASIS.
AND WE WORKED THAT INTO THE CHARTER, UH, WHEN WE RENEWED OUR CHARTER.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T, WE'RE NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THE PREMISE WAS EVER THAT THOSE DOLLARS WOULD NOT BE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT.
AND LET ME SHARE ONE OTHER THING.
I JUST BROUGHT SOME STATISTICS TO YOU AS FAR AS WE'VE NEVER REACHED THAT CEILING OF $250,000.
2023 TO 24 SCHOOL YEAR WAS 224,000.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE, WE SERVE THE CHILD ON WHAT THE CHILD NEEDS.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO GET IN THERE AND GET CHILD.
IT'S ONE OF MY PREVIOUS BOARD MEMBERS CAN, UH, RECOLLECT.
I MEAN THE PAST, MR. GOD, OR, UM, MR. LANIS, UH, I RE I CAN RECALL THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN THIS ACTUALLY INITIATED ABOUT THE $250,000 AND THE COST OF ABOUT IT SOLELY ALL COMING FROM EBR.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
DO YOU RECALL ANY OF THAT, MR. SHALIN? SO THAT WAS PRE MY TIME ON THE BOARD.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE OTHER GENTLEMAN.
SO I, YEAH, I I THINK THE PREMISE IS, UH, THAT THE EBR SCHOOL SYSTEM WOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR THESE SERVICES OTHERWISE, IF THE EMERGE CENTER WASN'T PROVIDING THE SERVICES, THE SERVICES UNDER THE IEP WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED.
THEREFORE, EBR WOULD STILL BE PAYING FOR 'EM.
THEY'RE JUST DESIGNATING THE EMERGE CENTER AS THE, AS THE STRUCTURE WITHIN WHICH TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO THE EMERGE SCHOOL.
IT'S NOT A DIFFERENCE IN DOLLARS.
THE EMERGE, THE EBR SCHOOL SYSTEM WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THOSE SERVICES IF IT, REGARDLESS IF IT'S TO EB TO EMERGE OR TO SOME OTHER THIRD PARTY VENDOR.
WE'RE JUST A THIRD PARTY VENDOR.
AND IT WAS JUST SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE WHOLE CONVERSATION BEING CONNECTED WITH SOUTH DOWNS AND SOME OF THE OTHER RESOURCES AS IT RELATES TO THE SERVICES YOU'RE PROVIDING.
THANK YOU MR. RUSS, IF YOU DON'T MIND IF MR. GOLDE CAN SKIP YOU IN THE LINEUP JUST TO KIND OF PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO WHAT MR. STEWART IS MENTIONING, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION
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COMES AROUND.WHEN EMERGE FIRST STARTED, THEY WERE DIFFERENT THAN ALL OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS AT ALL OF THE OTHER CHARTER SCHOOLS.
AND AT ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, WE HAVE PHYSICAL THERAPISTS AND OCCUPATIONAL THERAPISTS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY A THIRD PARTY.
AND OUR SPEECH THERAPISTS ARE INTERNAL EMPLOYEES, BUT THOSE ARE PROVIDED TO THE SCHOOLS.
OKAY? NOW, IF WE WEREN'T DOING THIS ARRANGEMENT, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES USING THAT THIRD PARTY PHYSICAL THERAPIST AND, UH, AND, UH, OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST AND OUR OWN INTERNAL SPEECH THERAPIST TO THE SCHOOL.
SO THIS IS, AND, AND THAT WAS A DIFFERENT SETUP THAN WE HAD EVER HAD BEFORE BECAUSE BEFORE THAT WE INSISTED THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE ALL OF THE SERVICES.
SO THIS WAS A BREAK IN THAT SITUATION WHERE WE DIDN'T PROVIDE ALL THE SERVICES.
AND THEN THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT STANDS NOW AT ALL ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THEIR RATE VERSUS THE DIFFERENCE IN OUR RATE.
BUT SINCE THAT TIME, WE WENT TO A THIRD PARTY PROVIDER.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THE RATES.
SO THIS IS $250,000 AS A CAP, BUT WE WOULD STILL BE SPENDING THAT MONEY, EITHER WE PAY IT TO THE EMERGE CENTER FOR PROVIDING THE SERVICES, OR WE'D PAY IT TO OUR OTHER THIRD PARTY PERSON TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES.
SO THE IMAGE THAT THIS IS AN EXTRA 200 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS, $250,000 IS THE WRONG IMAGE.
IT, IT'S, THE IMAGE WASN'T EXTRA.
IT'S JUST TO GET A BASIC UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.
AND, AND, AND SO THE WHOLE THING IS THEY PROVIDE THE SERVICES THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY HAVE A UNIQUE PROGRAM AND THEY COULDN'T HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COMING IN AND BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROGRAM.
AND THE KEY WITH THEIR PROGRAM THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE IS THEIR GOAL IS TO MAINSTREAM STUDENTS AND TO BRING THEM BACK TO EBR SO THAT AFTER THAT THIRD GRADE, THEY COME BACK TO OUR SCHOOLS.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA KEEP THESE KIDS FOREVER OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THEIR WHOLE GOAL IS TO ALLOW THEM TO REENTER INTO THE, INTO THE NORMAL SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW SOME OF THIS GETS BALLED UP, BUT I THINK SOME OF IT GOT BALLED UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED A LOT WITH DES MOINES RUTLEDGE AND WHEN THIS THING FIRST GOT STARTED AND THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION AND WE HAD NEVER LET A SCHOOL DO THEIR OWN THING.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THIS STARTED AND THAT, THAT KIND OF GHOST KEEPS COMING UP EVERY NOW AND THEN THAT WE HAVE THAT.
BUT I DON'T VIEW THIS AS ANYTHING.
BUT INSTEAD OF USING OUR OTHER THIRD PARTY, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THEIR NAME, UM, AS, AS MS. GREEN THAT RUNS IT, BUT OUR OTHER THIRD PARTY OCCUPATIONAL PHYSICAL THERAPIST, THEY'RE USING A DIFFERENT THIRD PARTY THEMSELVES.
AND SO THAT'S ALL THIS REALLY IS THE, ANY MONETARY DIFFERENCES IS ARE MINIMUM.
DOES THAT EXPLAIN IT? THANK YOU,
DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.
AND IT'S IN MY DISTRICT AND I'M PROUD OF THEM.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN WITH SOME, SOME FURTHER CONTEXT FOR WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS, IS STEMMING FROM, TO BE CLEAR, THE EMERGE SCHOOL SPECIFICALLY CATERS TO CHILDREN WITH AUTISM DIAGNOSES AND DOES IT BETTER THAN ANYBODY CAN IN A SPECIAL, SPECIAL EDUCATION SETTING, DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN THAN WE CAN IN SOME OF OUR ENVIRONMENTS.
AND YOU ALSO WORK TO HELP REINTEGRATE THOSE STUDENTS BACK INTO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AS PART OF THAT, THEY HAVE A LOT OF OTHER NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING IN AND SUPPORT FOR, RIGHT? OT, PHYSICAL THERAPY, SPEECH THERAPY, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.
ALL OF THESE BURDENS WOULD BE THE BURDEN OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IF THE EMERGENCY CENTER DIDN'T TAKE THESE 48 STUDENTS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.
RIGHT? SO LET'S GO BACK A YEAR AND A HALF WHEN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDED CLOSING THIS SCHOOL TRIED TO PLAY GOTCHA.
AND SAY, WE DIDN'T NEED THE EMERGE CENTER.
AND IN FACT, I SAT IN A MEETING WHERE THEY SAID, WE DON'T NEED THIS SCHOOL.
WE CAN DO GREAT AT SOUTH DOWNS, AND THEY JUST NEED TO GET SHUT DOWN.
AND THERE WAS AN IDEA, UH, A PRECEPT PUT FORTH THAT THIS 250,000 AFTER WE DIDN'T CLOSE THAT SCHOOL.
'CAUSE YOUR BOARD DIDN'T ALLOW THAT, THAT THIS 250,000 WAS SOME KIND OF GIMME THAT WAS PUT FORTH BY EXTRA ADMINISTRATIONS BECAUSE YOU HAD A FUNDRAISING SHORTAGE, WHICH IS NOT THE ACTUAL SITUATION AND CONFUSE YOUR ENTIRE BOARD TO THIS DAY, WE'RE STILL ASKING WHY ARE WE STILL PAYING THIS $250,000 BECAUSE AN ADMINISTRATION MISLED THEIR BOARD AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THIS WAS.
SO I WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT'S HOW SOUTH DOWNS PLAYS INTO THIS.
AND THAT'S HOW ALL THAT MISCONCEPTION
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PLAYS IN WHEN YOU'RE PROVIDING SERVICES TO STUDENTS THAT EBR WOULD BE PROVIDING IF YOU WERE NOT THROUGH ANOTHER VENDOR.AND, AND ALSO I DO NEED TO SAY THAT SOUTH DOWNS DOES NOT PROVIDE KINDERGARTEN THROUGH THIRD GRADE.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO BEAT UP SOUTH DOWNS.
WE, WE, WE RESPECT SOUTH DOWNS.
WE WORK WITH THEM CLOSELY BECAUSE THE CHILDREN LEAVE THAT PRESCHOOL SETTING AND SEVERAL OF THEM COME TO US.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TAKE THOSE CHILDREN, WE WORK WITH THAT TEAM, SO THEY'RE A GREAT TEAM.
SO IT'S, WE'RE A DIFFERENT THAN SOUTH DOWNS IS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT FORTH AS, AS FACTS IN THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THINGS THAT WERE SAID AND WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
AND STILL A YEAR AND A HALF LATER CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, I HAVE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE AS WELL.
UH, THANK YOU TO THE EMERGE CENTER FOR COMING OUT.
UH, ALSO, I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT I'VE BEEN SEEING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SCHOOL VISITS, SCHOOL VISITS, SCHOOL VISITS,
UM, AND THEN ALSO CONVERSATION.
THE CONVERSATION, CONVERSATION.
THERE'S, THERE'S POWER IN CONVERSATION AS WELL.
UM, I DO REMEMBER MS. STEWART, UH, WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO WHEN WE DID ASK THEM TO COME UP WITH A PLAN I DID, I DID FOR, UH, HOW TO MAINTAIN OR, OR HOW TO EVENTUALLY REDUCE THE FUNDING THAT IS SENT OR THAT IS PROVIDED FOR THEM.
UM, I ALSO WANNA SAY TOO, THOUGH, THAT IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT, UM, MS. DEANNA, I, I, I WANT TO CALL YOU BY YOUR LAST NAME WIDOW, MS. WHITTLE, UM, THAT I GOT A CHANCE TO MEET MS. WHITTLE.
I ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO THEIR SCHOOL, UM, AND SAW THE CENTER AND SAW THE WORK THAT THEY PROVIDE.
AND I QUESTIONED IF MS. WHITTLE KNEW THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR A PLAN.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S THE OTHER PART.
UM, I DO AGREE WITH MR. RUSS IN THE FACT THAT WE WERE TOLD THAT WE OFFER THE SAME SERVICES.
AND I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU, MS. WHITTLE, THAT WE OFFER THE SAME SERVICES AT SOUTH DOWNS AS WHAT IS OFFERED AT THE EMERGE CENTER.
I DID ALSO TALK TO MS. SCOTT, WHO'S AT THE SOUTH DOWN CENTER, WHO CONFIRMED THAT THEY DO NOT FULLY OFFER THE SAME SERVICES THAT EMER, THAT THE EMERGE CENTERS OFFER.
UM, AS I GOT A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE OR, UH, TO ATTEND OR VISIT WITH THE EMERGE CENTER, UH, I GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THE THERAPEUTIC SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED.
IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THEY WORK TO TRANSITION, JUST AS MY OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED, UH, TO TRANSITION STUDENTS AND FAMILIES FROM, UM, JUST NEEDING HANDS-ON SERVICES CONTINUALLY.
ONE OF THE REMINDERS THAT I HAVE IS THEY MENTIONED THAT WHEN THEIR STUDENTS COME TO THEM, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET ON A BUS AND HOW THEY HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL WITH TEACHING STUDENTS HOW TO GET ON A BUS.
THAT'S A PART OF THOSE THERAPEUTIC SERVICES AS WELL.
AND SO WITH ALL OF THAT IN MIND, I JUST WANTED US TO, TO PROCESS ALL OF THIS, THAT THERE WERE MISCONCEPTIONS AND I HOPE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE MISCONCEPTIONS TONIGHT WITH THE LEVEL OF CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD.
UH, FIRST LET ME SAY
I THINK OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OUR BOARD DOES ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER OF CONTEXT TO THE CONVERSATION AS TO HOW WE GOT TO THIS SPACE.
WHEN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WITH THE EMERGE CENTER AND THE BOARD WAS CREATED, IT WAS UNDERSTOOD UNDER THAT AGREEMENT THAT AT SOME POINT THE EMERGE CENTER WAS GOING TO RAISE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY SO THAT THOSE SERVICES ARE COVERED UNDER THEM.
HOWEVER, IT DID COME UP SHORT AND EAST RIDGE PARISH SCHOOL SYSTEM AGREED TO FOOT THE BILL LAST YEAR.
WHAT WE HEARD WAS, WELL, WHEN IS THAT EVER GONNA HAPPEN WHERE YOU ALL ARE RAISING THE MONEY? AND IF IT IS A REDUCTION IN COST, THAT AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, BASICALLY ARE THE MONEY THAT YOU ARE RAISING, LET US KNOW THAT YOU ARE PUTTING UP A CONSERVATIVE EFFORT TO DO SO.
BECAUSE UNDER THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, WE DON'T DO THAT WITH ANY OTHER SCHOOL THAT WE CONTRACT WITH.
AND IT GAVE AN UNFAIR APPROACH THAT IF YOU DO IT FOR THIS SCHOOL WHILE YOU'RE DOING IT FOR OTHER SCHOOLS THAT YOU'RE CONTRACTING WITH, THAT WAS THE SITUATION.
IT WAS NOT OUR GOTCHA MOMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT STATED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
AND THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, MR. GODDE, WE NEVER TRULY LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE OF CONTRACTS THAT COME THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR, UH, THROUGH OUR SYSTEM.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU ENTER INTO MORE CONTRACTS FOR DUPLICATED SERVICES OR THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE DEALT, THAT WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON.
YOU HAVE SERVICES THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY BEING RENDERED.
NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S THE EMERGENCY CENTER.
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HAPPENED THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THESE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS AND YOU START TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS, THE EMERGENCY CENTER GOT CAUGHT UP IN IT.AND DO I DO WANNA SHARE THOUGH, UM, OUR SCHOOL, BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE AND WHAT THE CHILDREN NEED, WE DO FUNDRAISE TO MEET OUR BUDGET TO A TUNE OF OVER $300,000.
WE HAVE SOME VERY GENEROUS DONORS WHO SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS.
SO THE MFP THAT IS PROVIDED THROUGH, THROUGH EBR DOES NOT SATISFY THE COST OF TAKING CARE OF THE CHILDREN.
AND OUR MISSION IS TO KEEP THIS SCHOOL OPEN.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO FUNDRAISE THAT EXTRA $300,000 TO KEEP THE SCHOOL OPEN.
AND I, AND NOT, AND NOT, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'LL EVER COME BACK HERE AND ASK THE BOARD FOR.
AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY THAT'S WHAT A CONVERSATION OR THE CRUX OF THE CONVERSATION STARTED IS.
BUT WHAT I WANT IS SKIN THE GAME.
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING ON TOP OF THIS PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT IS ONE THING.
BUT WE GO AND, AND WE FUNDRAISE THREE, $350,000 A YEAR JUST SO WE PROVIDE FOR THESE LITTLE ONES.
RIGHT? AND, AND LET'S BE VERY CLEAR.
MM-HMM
SO SOME WORK, SOME WORK WE HAVE TO OUTSOURCE, SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO PAY AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS ARE COVERED.
AS YOU SAID BEFORE AT SOUTH DOWNS, WE DON'T OFFER THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT ANYWAY.
AND I WOULD PREFER THAT WE MOVE IT THROUGH EMERGER.
AND I THINK AT THAT TIME YOU HEARD SOME, SOME NOISE THAT WAS COMING OUT TOO.
SO IT ALSO PUT A BENDER IN A LOT OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS' EARS.
BUT I SAY ALL THIS TO SAY THAT YOU ARE SUPPORTED AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE CONTEXT TO AS WE GOT TO THAT CONVERSATION FROM LAST YEAR, NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THE E IN THE CLOSE.
AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
UM, SO MS. STEWART, I JUST WANNA COME, I JUST WANTED TO
NO, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP BECAUSE, UM, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING TO.
AND SO WHEN THIS, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THOSE COMMENTS CAME FROM.
SO WE NOW MOVE TO OUR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
I LIKE THAT JACKET, MS. WILLIAMS. I DO TOO.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, A GOOD EVENING.
UM, MY NAME'S T WILLIAMS. UH, MY SON, I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT MY SON ATTENDS LOBBY LETTER, UH, IN MS. STEWART'S DISTRICT.
UM, AND HE HAS AUTISM, CEREBRAL PALSY, UM, AND SPEECH LANGUAGE DELAY.
HE DIDN'T GET EARLY DIAGNOSIS WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THE EMERGENCY CENTER.
HE DID ATTEND SOUTH DOWNS AND HE GETS, UH, SPEECH THERAPY AND OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY THERE.
AND WE DO OUTPATIENT AFTER SOUTH DOWNS.
WE WENT TO A TRADITIONAL SCHOOL.
WE GET THIRD PARTY, UH, PROVIDERS AT, UH, BELAIRE.
BUT IN THE MEMO AND THE NEW CONTRACT AGREEMENT, IT STATES THAT, UH, IT'S ELIMINATING, IT'S ASKING FOR HIGHER RATES, BUT ELIMINATES SPECIAL EDUCATION.
SO I'M, UH, WONDERING WHY WHEN THEY'RE SERVICING LESS CHILDREN THAN OUR THIRD PARTY THAT WE PROVIDE, THAT PROVIDE SERVICE JUST FOR MORE CHILDREN AT OUR DISTRICT.
AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE SERVICING MORE THAN ONE SCHOOL.
SO THEY HAVE A MULTITUDE OF, OF CHILDREN.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE THERAPISTS THAT ARE WORKING WITH STUDENTS LIKE MY SON ARE GETTING COMPARABLE PAIN.
MANY OF MY CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED BY MS. STEWART'S QUESTION THAT HER COLLEAGUES HELPED ANSWER.
MY ISSUE IS THAT SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO ASK FOR CLARITY FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS.
THIS BOARD HAS TOLERATED INADEQUATE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ON ESSENTIALLY EVERY SINGLE AGENDA ITEM.
AND YOU NEED TO PUT AN END TO THAT.
THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A DEMAND THAT THIS BE VERY CLEARLY EXPLAINED IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL.
AND THEN YOU WOULD ONLY NEED TO ASK A FEW CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
I ALSO REMEMBER THE PREMISE WHEN THE CHARTER WAS FIRST APPROVED, THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF PHILANTHROPIC SUPPORT.
AND SO THEY COULD DO AN EXPENSIVE MODEL FOR JUST THE MFP.
CLEARLY, THAT HAS TURNED OUT TO BE FALSE.
WHETHER THE SCHOOL IS JUSTIFIED ANYWAY IS A MATTER THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IF I WERE TO SUPPORT A CHARTER SCHOOL, THAT WOULD BE AMONG THE FEW THAT I WOULD CONSIDER WORTH SUPPORT.
FURTHERMORE, IN THE BACKUP, IT ADDRESSES THAT THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
IT DOESN'T SAY WHETHER THERE'S AN EXPECTATION OF ANY SORT OF FEDERAL OR STATE REIMBURSEMENT OR IF THIS IS STRICTLY FROM UH, LOCAL FUNDS.
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MY POINT IS WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GUESS.TWO MORE POINTS WITH RESPECT TO THE CHARTER SCHOOL, THAT IS THE BENEFICIARY OF THIS CONTRACT, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO OPERATE FOR A YEAR UNDER THE CHARTER RENEWAL WITHOUT HAVING SIGNED A CONTRACT.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT CONTRACT SATISFIES THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THE BOARD ATTEMPTED TO PUT ON THE RENEWAL, BECAUSE PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THE RENEWAL IS IF THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS IN TESTED GRADES, YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY OF EVALUATING WHETHER THEY'RE DOING A BETTER JOB THAN WE COULD DO AT A DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED AS OPPOSED TO PRIVATELY OPERATED SCHOOL.
PERHAPS THEY ARE DOING A BETTER JOB, PERHAPS NOT.
AND I SURE HOPE WHEN IT'S TIME TO RENEW THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND THERE'S ENOUGH DATA TO MAKE A CLEAR DECISION.
AFTER MR. BILBOROUGH, WE WILL HEAR FROM MS. SMITH AND THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM MS. MATTHEWS.
SO, UH, MS. SMITH, UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY COMMENTS.
I TOO HAVE A CHILD IN SPECIAL EDUCATION.
I THINK THAT THE EMERGE CENTER IS DOING GREAT WORK, BUT THERE ARE CHILDREN ALL ACROSS THIS DISTRICT WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE EMERGE CENTER THAT NEED $250,000.
I KNOW, ME, MYSELF, WHEN I SIT IN IEP MEETINGS AND ASK FOR SIMPLE THINGS LIKE, UM, UH, CAN I GET SOME, MY DAUGHTER NEEDS SUPPORT WITH, UH, PHONEMIC AWARENESS.
OH, WE DON'T HAVE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON IN, IN THE SCHOOL THAT CAN HELP WITH THIS.
SO I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MS. WILLIAMS WHEN SHE SAYS SHE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT HER CHILD IS GETTING, WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY AND WE TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S FAIRNESS SPREAD ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, WITH THIS CHARTER, IT IS NOT, AND WHEN MR. RUSS SAID THE BURDEN, THE BURDEN WOULD BE ON THE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THESE CHILDREN'S EXCEPTIONAL EXCEPTIONALITIES AS A BURDEN.
THEY ARE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GIVE THESE CHILDREN THE SAME, UH, OPPORTUNITY AND EQUITABLE.
UH, THE MONEY, THE TIME AND THE RESOURCES EQUAL TIME, MONEY, MONEY AND RESOURCES.
AND IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS IMMERSE CENTER.
UH, ADDITIONALLY I HEARD THEM SAY THAT THOSE CHILDREN ARE TRANSITIONED BACK INTO THE DISTRICT.
WHERE ARE THE NUMBERS ON THAT? YOU GUYS TALK A LOT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT.
WE TALK, COME UP HERE AND SAY A LOT OF THINGS SUBJECTIVELY.
UH, BUT THERE IS NOTHING THAT DEFINITIVELY THAT, THAT, UH, GIVES US DATA AND NUMBERS.
WHERE ARE THESE KIDS TRANSITIONING BACK TO? BECAUSE WE SAID WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THEM IN THE BEGINNING, BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA SEND 'EM BACK INTO THE DISTRICT.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THESE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T GET THIS MONEY, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THOSE STUDENTS SHOULDN'T GET THIS MONEY.
BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT SAME, UH, SPREAD THAT EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL OF THE KIDS IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
I WAS ASKED TO ASK, WHAT IS EMERGE DOING WITH THE MONEY THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM PRIVATE INSURANCE OR MEDICAID FOR THE SERVICES THEY ARE PROVIDING FOR THESE CHILD OR FOR THESE CHILDREN? GOOD QUESTION.
SO MR. BR HAS DECIDED NOT TO COMMENT.
IS THIS CORRECT? HE SAID IT WASN'T HIS ITEM.
LET ME MAKE SURE I TAKE THAT OUT.
SO, UM, I HAVE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS, UM, SHARED THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MY QUESTION IS, AND I I HAVE MORE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, MR. SMITH, DO WE KNOW, UH, HOW MUCH WE PRO HOW MUCH OF A SALARY WE PROVIDE FOR OUR THERAPEUTIC PROVIDERS? UM, AND THEN I WANNA ASK THE SAME QUESTION TO THE EMERGE CENTER OF WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SALARY OF THEIR THERAPISTS AS WELL? SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.
THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD,
UH, BUT, BUT DEFINITELY WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
AND, UM, THAT'S FIRST CHOICE THERAPY SERVICES, UH, WITH MS. GREEN IS WHAT WE'RE USING.
WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH FIRST CHOICE AND IT'S SO MUCH PER HOUR.
VERY SIMILAR TO LIKE OUR OTHER CONTRACTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THERAPISTS.
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OKAY.I SAID THE, UH, THE FIRST CHOICE OCCUPATIONAL AND PHYSICAL THERAPIST.
THE ONLY REASON I KNOW 'CAUSE I HELPED NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT BACK WHEN, UH, THEY'RE PAID SO MUCH AN HOUR WITH THEY PAY THEIR THERAPIST AND WHAT THEIR BENEFITS ARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S SOLELY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
YOU CAN LOOK UP THE SALARY SCHEDULE.
SO I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD.
UH, JUST AS MS. WILLIAMS MENTIONED, IS OUR TEAM OR ARE THOSE THAT, THAT SERVICE OUR DISTRICT SCHOOLS, UH, ARE THEY PAID ON A COMPARABLE, UH, SALARY SCHEDULE AS WELL? SO THAT MAY BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CAN WORK TOWARDS MR. SMITH.
UH, UH, BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT SAL SALARY SCHEDULES ARE LIKE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN WITH FIRST CHOICE, IS THAT WHAT WE SAID? THAT FIRST CHOICE IS RE RECEIVING A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR, THEIR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
THE OTHER IS, UM, I WANTED TO ASK EMERGE 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE.
UM, IS TRANSPORTATION PROVIDED TO THE EMERGE CENTER FOR STUDENTS? WE, WE DON'T PROVIDE BUSING.
WE DON'T HAVE BUSING, BUT THERE ARE SOME CHILDREN BECAUSE OF A SPECIAL NEED THAT THEY MAY HAVE WITH TRANSPORTATION.
WE HAVE PROVIDED, UM, VANS THE SPECIAL NEEDS IN THE PAST.
SO THIS YEAR WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY CHILDREN OR PARENTS THAT HAVE REQUESTED THAT.
SO WE WORK WITH EACH FAMILY IF THEY, IF THAT IS A BURDEN AND THEY KNEW THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THAT IN THE PAST.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, MR. SMITH, IS BUS TRANSPORTATION PROVIDED TO SOUTHBOUND? YES, MA'AM.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I ASKED THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS, UM, THIS IS NOT A QUESTION, BUT STILL JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED TONIGHT.
IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE OUR BEST AS A DISTRICT WITH COMPLIANCE AND DOCUMENTATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN WE THINK OF PEOPLE IN OTHER ARENAS, UH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE CERTAIN BOXES THAT HAVE TO BE CHECKED ON A ROUTINE BASIS.
THERE ARE ALSO NOT ONLY CERTAIN BOXES THAT ARE CHECKED, BUT THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN SUPERVISORS WHO SHOW UP ON RANDOM OCCASIONS AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE COMPLIANCE MEASURES PUT IN PLACE.
AND SO JUST WITH WHAT WE JUST KIND OF TALKED ABOUT HERE, EVEN WHEN, UM, MS. SMITH SPOKE, UM, MS. WILLIAMS SPOKE AS WELL, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THE MOST HIGH QUALITY SERVICE TO OUR SCHOOLS, UH, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY SERVICE OR THAT WE ARE EXPECTING HIGH QUALITY SERVICE FROM THE CHARTERS THAT, THAT ARE OUR APPROVED CHARTERS AS WELL.
AND SO WE HAVE TO BECOME MORE INTENTIONAL WITH THAT.
AND I'M SAYING IT ON THE MIC FOR A REASON, SO THAT WAY WE CAN GO BACK TO THESE CONVERSATIONS AND IT NOT BE LIKE MS. STEWART SAID A YEAR AGO, AND WE COME AND WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION NOW, BUT THAT WE ALLOW THAT TO BE A PART OF OUR TASK THAT WE WORK TOWARDS.
SO THAT WAY NEXT YEAR WHEN WE COME BACK HERE, WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
WE'VE ALL HAD THE, THE RIGHT COMMUNICATION AND WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
THANK YOU PRESIDENT POWELL LEWIS, ON, ON, ON YOUR LAST POINT.
AND, AND I THINK THAT IN, IN THIS, AS IN A NUMBER OF AREAS, UM, I, I'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A CHALLENGE WITH FOLLOW UP, UM, WHEN THE BOARD, UH, RAISES AN ISSUE.
UM, AND I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN SPEND SOME TIME OVER THE NEXT, UH, MONTH OR TWO WORKING WITH OUR STAFF TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HAVE MORE CONSISTENT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION OF THE FOLLOW UP.
SO WE'RE NOT RELYING ON JUST THE MEMORIES OF WHOEVER HAPPENED TO BE HERE, UM, AT THE TIME.
UM, SO, SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, NOT JUST ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT ON A WHOLE LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE DEAL WITH.
MANY TIMES, WE'VE ALL HAD CONVERSATIONS, WELL, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DID THEY PROMISE? CAPITAL HIGH, WHAT DID THEY PROMISE? WHOEVER.
RIGHT? AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT DOCUMENTED VERY WELL WITHOUT ACTUALLY GOING BACK AND WATCHING THE, THE CONFUSING TAPE AT TIMES.
SO, SO I AGREE WITH YOU, UH, PRESIDENT POWELL LEWIS, I, I THINK REGARDING THE ME CENTER, UM, UH, MY COLLEAGUE MR. GODDE MAKES THE POINT.
THESE ARE SERVICES THAT THE DISTRICT HAS AN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE TO THESE KIDS.
AND, AND, AND, AND, WHICH IS CERTAINLY TRUE.
I THINK THE, THE QUESTION THAT MS. SMITH RAISES IS, ARE WE PROVIDING BETTER SERVICES TO THE KIDS AT THIS SCHOOL THEN WE'RE PROVIDING TO THE KIDS AT, AT SOUTH BOUNDS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
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AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WORK VERY HARD TO MEASURE THE ABSOLUTE QUALITY OF THESE SERVICES, BUT AS A PROXY FOR THAT, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, ASK SOME QUESTIONS THAT PRESIDENT POWELL LEWIS WAS GETTING OUT WITH THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SALARY, ABOUT THE LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE SALARIES IS ON A, ON A PER STUDENT SERVED BASIS, HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING IN THE EMERGE CONTRACT? RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT COME OUT TO PER STUDENT SERVED OR, OR HOW, WHATEVER THE RIGHT MEASUREMENT IS, STUDENT HOURS OF SERVICE PROVIDED OR WHATEVER IT IS, VERSUS FOR KIDS AT SOUTH BOUNDS OR ANY OF OUR OTHER SCHOOLS WHO NEED SIMILAR SERVICES WHEN, AND WE'RE PAYING, UM, UH, MR. GO SAID FIRST CHOICE OCCUPATIONAL PHYSICAL THERAPISTS, HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING IN THAT SAME UNIT OF MEASUREMENT, UH, PER STUDENT, PER HOUR OF STUDENT SERVICE OR WHAT, WHATEVER IF IT IS.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THE STAFF TO COME BACK, IF POSSIBLE, NEXT MONTH AND GIVE US A REPORT, UH, A WRITTEN REPORT ON, ON THAT SO THAT WE COULD SEE THAT COMPARISON AND WE COULD REALLY EXPLORE FIRSTHAND MS, MS QUESTION ABOUT EQUITY IN THIS FUNDING.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS.
AND I THINK MR. UH, MARTIN'S IDEA IS A GOOD IDEA.
I WOULD SAY THOUGH, ASSET REPORT IS COMPARED, MAKE SURE IT'S COMPARED IN COORDINATION WITH THE EMERGE CENTER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DISCONNECT HAPPENS, WHERE THEIR, THEIR DEFINITION OF SOMETHING AND OUR DEFINITION OF SOMETHING CAN BE DIFFERENT.
AND YOU GET A LOT OF THINGS GOING.
BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT QUESTION WAS ASKED, AND I, I THINK I KNOW THEY ANSWER, BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO ANSWER THAT ON THE MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, I GUESS IS MAINLY IMPORTANT ON THE CHILDREN WHO ARE, UH, UM, ELIGIBLE FOR THAT.
HOW IS THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT HANDLED? YOU GUYS ARE BILLING MEDICAID.
OKAY, SO YOU, YOU BILL, WHAT HAPPENS IS WE SUBMIT EACH MONTH, HOW MANY HOURS? AND THEN, AND I THINK THE, THE OTHER, A VENDOR DOES TOO.
AND YOU TAKE THAT AND IT GOES TO KELLY LOPEZ'S OFFICE.
AND FROM THERE, THE TEAM HERE, BILLS MEDICAID.
I JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOU SAY IT TO MAKE SURE, TO MAKE SURE IT WAS RIGHT.
SO WE'RE NOT BILLING FOR THAT.
I THINK THAT ABOUT, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, MR. CHALIN, I THINK ABOUT 70% OF THE MONEY THAT IS PAID OFF FOR THESE SERVICES ENDS UP, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A YEAR LATER, BUT ENDS UP GETTING REIMBURSED BY MEDICARE OR MEDICAID.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS, THAT'S MS. LOPEZ'S QUOTE.
AND IT IS, IT IS ABOUT AN ANNUAL, WE LAG BACK A YEAR.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $250,000, 70% OF THAT COMES BACK FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO IT'S A MUCH LESS, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THESE KIDS, YOU CAN'T REALLY LOOK AT A PER KID BECAUSE EACH IEP IS DIFFERENT.
AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH KID IS DIFFERENT.
SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF HOURS SERVED.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR HOURLY RATE FOR YOUR, YOUR EMPLOYEES OR, UM, I, IT DEPENDS ON EXPERIENCE AND ALL THAT SORT OF DEPENDS.
BUT I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, IS WHAT, WHAT THE THIRD PARTY VENDORS BEING REIMBURSED.
AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, OUR RATE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME AS WHATEVER VENDOR THAT YOU'RE PAYING.
RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S IN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN, I THINK IT'S LIKE $85 AN HOUR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
NOW WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT ONE.
NO, I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OCCUPATIONAL THERAPISTS AND PHYSICAL THERAPISTS IS, IS SOMETHING LIKE 80, 80 TO $85 AN HOUR.
UH, OURS IS 70, OUR THEIRS IS 70.
SO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT IS.
I'LL PULL THE, I'LL PULL THE CONTRACT NUMBERS FOR YOU, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S 85.
I KNOW THEY STARTED OFF, PULL THE NUMBERS.
I KNOW THEY STARTED OFF ONE 120 AND THEN WE GOT TO 80 OR 85.
ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANNA SAY, IF I A MINUTE, IS THAT WE DO CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHETHER WE SEE THESE CHILDREN OR SOMEONE ELSE DOES, I AGREE WITH THE MOMS THAT ARE HERE.
AND IT, AND IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE SURE AS A COMMUNITY, IT'S PROVIDED, IT'S PROVIDED IN EVERY SCHOOL.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT IT.
GRANTED, I WISH OUR SCHOOL WAS 10 TIMES THE SIZE THAT IT IS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, I, WE HOPE TO AT ONE POINT, DOUBLE IT.
BUT AS I SPOKE WITH THE PREVIOUS SUPERINTENDENT, IT WAS LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO AS A SCHOOL SYSTEM TO HELP THESE CHILDREN, THE CHILDREN THAT ARE IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS? IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT I'M A THAT I WORK IN A CHARTER SCHOOL.
IT'S ALL THE CHILDREN WITHIN EBR, YOU KNOW, HELP THESE PARENTS, HELP THESE CHILDREN BE SUCCESSFUL AND NOT GET LABELED.
AND, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO.
THEY CAN DO A LOT, THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND, AND YES, I'M A CHEERLEADER FOR ALL OF
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THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE IN OUR SCHOOL OR IN ANOTHER SCHOOL.BUT JUST AS A COMMUNITY, IF WE CAN DO OUR BEST TO HELP THESE CHILDREN BE SUCCESSFUL AND HELP THESE FAMILIES, UM, THAT'S OUR GOAL.
UM, SOME YEARS AGO, UM, I WAS HANDED A BOOK BY ONE OF MY PRINCIPALS, AND THE TITLE OF THAT BOOK WAS DATA-DRIVEN EDUCATION.
EVERYTHING WE DO IN EDUCATION IS DRIVEN BY DATA.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO, YOU MENTIONED CHILDREN TRANSITIONING BACK INTO EBR, I'M NOT GOING TO WAIT ON YOU TO SEND THAT DATA TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND THEN THEY SEND IT TO ME BECAUSE, LIKE MS. STEWART, I MAY NEVER GET IT.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO CAPTURE THAT DATA OF HOW MANY CHILDREN HAVE TRANSITIONED INTO EBR AND HOW MANY OF THOSE KIDS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, MAY HAVE TRANSITIONED BACK TO YOU.
IF, IF THEY, THEY DON'T DO THAT.
WELL, WE DO, WE DO HAVE NUMBERS THAT SHOW.
I CAN SAY, JUST TO MAKE A POINT, IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, WE AS AN EMERGE CENTER ATTEMPTED TO SET UP A PROGRAM TO INTEGRATE THE KIDS INTO SCHOOL.
WE WERE GONNA BRING OUR KIDS AND OUR THERAPISTS TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO HELP INTEGRATE THEM INTO WHATEVER SCHOOL THE PARENT WAS CHOOSING TO PUT THEM INTO.
AND WE OFFERED TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THIS DATA.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS THE ADMINISTRATION SHUT US DOWN FROM THAT STANDPOINT AND SAID, WE DON'T WANT YOU COMING IN OUR SCHOOLS.
BECAUSE WE WENT IN AND WE SAID, WAIT, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THESE KIDS.
AND WE WERE UP, OUR PRINCIPAL AND OUR, OUR TEACHERS WERE UPSET WITH IT.
OKAY? SO, SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE DATA AND WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT.
UM, YOU CAN FIND MY EMAIL ADDRESS, SEND IT TO C LEWIS.
I DON'T WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO GET IT AND THEN SEND IT TO ME.
JUST SEND IT TO BOARD MEMBERS.
THE PARENT, THE YOUNG LADY WHO CAME UP AND, AND TALKED ABOUT EQUITY, MS. MS. SMITH TALKED ABOUT EQUITY.
I SPOKE ABOUT EQUITY JUST NOT SO LONG AGO.
ALL THESE CHILDREN THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, WHETHER THEY'RE AUTISTIC OR NOT, ARE ALL OF GOD'S GIFTS TO US.
THEY'RE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE KID THAT CAN RUN A 10 FLAT, A HUNDRED.
SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.
WE ARE GOING TO EDUCATE THEM, WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THEM.
I MEAN, WE HAD TO PASS AMERICA DISABILITY ACT IN THIS COUNTRY, JUST SO YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE A FAIR CHANCE.
SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THESE KIDS.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THEIR PARENTS.
IF IT'S THE LAST THING I HAVE TO DO WHILE I SIT UP HERE, HOWEVER LONG THAT MAY BE, I WANNA KNOW THAT THESE CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY EBR PRINCIPLES OUT THERE, YOU CAN SEND IT TO C LEWIS FIVE TOO.
IF YOU HAVE DATA CONCERNING HOW YOUR KIDS WITH AUTISM ARE TREATED AND WHAT TRANSITION, WHAT KIND OF TRACKS THEY'RE ON.
SO COACH LEWIS HAS SENT IT TO C LEWIS.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE A BUNCH OF US WHO WANT THE INFORMATION.
SO IT'S MORE LIKE BOARD MEMBERS AT EBR SCHOOLS.ORG.
THEY KNOW WHERE TO, THEY MAY NOT, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT GROUP.
SO LOOK, LOOK, YOU CAN SEND IT TO C LOUIS.
SO, UH, MR. ALANIS, THANK YOU.
SOUND LIKE A BOY BAND, GROUP C LOUIS FIVE
UH, BUT SERIOUSLY,
UH, I THINK THIS LEADS, THIS LEADS TO A BIGGER CONVERSATION, A LARGER CONVERSATION.
AND WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR IN HEARING EVERYTHING THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY ABOUT EQUITY.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.
WHAT ARE WE NOT DOING INSIDE OF OUR SCHOOLS THAT THE EMERGED CENTER IS CURRENTLY OFFERING TO FAMILIES? BECAUSE THE EMERGED CENTER EXISTS BECAUSE WE DON'T OFFER SOMETHING WHICH HAS CAUSED TOO MANY INEQUITIES ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY.
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AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT STUDENTS WITH EXCEPTIONAL DISABILITIES, THEY NEED MORE THAN WHAT WE OFFER, WHAT CURRENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS OFFER.SO WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR IS, CAN WE SURVEY SCHOOLS THAT ARE SERVING KIDS WITH DISABILITIES ACROSS OUR DISTRICT? AND CAN WE ALSO SURVEY THE PARENTS SO THAT WE GET A FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHAT ARE THE NEEDS AND WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS? WHAT I DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN THOUGH IS, IS THAT WE GET CAUGHT UP IN MONEY.
THAT'S ALWAYS A SITUATION THAT COMES UP IS MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.
WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR RESERVES, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT MONEY'S FOR.
IT'S TO BETTER SERVE THE PEOPLE AND STUDENTS AND EMPLOYEES THAT WORK INSIDE OF OUR SYSTEM.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL PLACE AT YOUR FEET.
UH, UH, INTEREST OF LIEUTENANT SMITH IS IF YOU COULD, LET'S FORMULATE A SURVEY, AN ANONYMOUS SURVEY, BY THE WAY.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE GONNA BE THREATENED BY ANSWERING HONESTLY, ABOUT THE CONCERNS AND NEEDS OF STUDENTS TO HAVE DISABILITIES ACROSS OUR SYSTEM.
BUT LET'S GET A FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT AND THEN LET'S CIRCULATE AMONGST OUR BOARD SO THAT THE NEXT CONVERSATION CAN BE HOW DO WE FIX THAT INSIDE OF OUR SYSTEM, AND HOW DO WE WORK BETTER WITH SCHOOLS LIKE THE IMMER CENTER? WELL, I WILL SAY, UH, THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, MR. LINUS, UM, WE CURRENTLY SERVE AS MAYBE ABOUT 400 STUDENTS WITH THE EXCEPTIONALITY OF AUTISM ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
UH, IN IT REALLY CONTINGENT UPON WHAT'S IN THAT CHILD'S IEPI WAS ONE OF THE STAFF ORIGINAL STAFF MEMBERS, UH, IN THE DISTRICT ON THE, I THINK THE SUPERINTENDENT WAS MR. DRAKE AT THE TIME, WHO SAT ON THE COMMITTEE AND WHO BROUGHT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD TO ALLOW THE MERGE CONTRACT TO COME FORTH.
IT WAS ABOUT OFFERING PARENTS A CHOICE.
AND SO MERGE IS HERE, AND I'VE WORKED WITH MS. WHITTLE OVER A FEW YEARS, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
IT WAS STAFF WHO BROUGHT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT FORTH, AND YOU AND I, WE TALKED AND WE SAID, WELL, WE WANT TO BRING IT FORTH IN JUNE, AND THEN IT GOT PUSHED BACK.
AND SO I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THE STAFF, WE FULLY SUPPORT THE MERGE CONCEPT AND WHAT THEY WOULD, WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES, ESPECIALLY AROUND AUTISM.
AND SO, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT BRINGING THAT INFORMATION.
BUT I WANT THE DISTRICT KNOW THAT WE DO SERVICE AROUND 400 KIDS ACROSS THE DISTRICT WITH AUTISM FROM, FROM PRE-K TO 12.
YEAH, I WAS ABLE TO PUT A CONTRACT, NEGOTIATE THAT.
SO FOR THOSE WHO COULD NOT HEAR, UH, MR. SHAMBLIN CONFIRMED, IF YOU WILL JUST STATE ONCE AGAIN, UH, YES.
THE, THE CONTRACTUAL RATE WITH FIRST CHOICE THERAPY IS $75 PER HOUR.
SO THAT'S FOR THE THERAPISTS THAT ARE OPERATING IN OUR DISTRICT SCHOOLS.
AND THEN, MS. WHITTLE, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR THERAPISTS AVERAGE, OUR, OUR OTS ARE AT 70 AND OUR SPEECH THERAPISTS ARE AT 72.
SO, MS. WHITTLE, PLEASE TELL US WHAT OT IS.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
AND THIS IS ON, UM, THIS IS ON CONTRACT RENEWAL, BATON ROUGE SPEECH AND HEARING FOUNDATION, DOING BUSINESS AS THE EMERGE CENTER INCORPORATED.
[E.9. 2024-2025 Student Rights and Responsibilities Handbook & Discipline Policy]
10, 20 24, 20 25.STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES, HANDBOOK AND DISCIPLINE POLICY CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK AND DISCIPLINE POLICY FOR THE 20 24, 20 25 SCHOOL YEAR FOR THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL SYSTEM WITH NOTED CHANGES.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY, IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. RUSS.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? MR. RUSS? I'M GONNA TRY TO PULL IT UP REAL QUICK, BUT I HAD A QUESTION FOR COUNSEL.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE, I KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THIS YEAR IN REGARDS TO CELL PHONE POLICIES, AND THAT'S A MAJOR CHANGE.
UM, AS I WAS READING THROUGH THAT, I GUESS, UH, THERE, THERE IS A SPECIFIC SECTION WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT A STUDENT IS NOT PERMITTED TO HAVE A CELL PHONE, BUT IF THEY DO, IT HAS TO BE OFF.
AND THEN IT RELATES MORE, AND THEN IT CONTINUES TALKING ABOUT USAGE.
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ON A BUS.SO ONE, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DISALLOW SOMETHING, BUT THEN ALSO ALLOW IT WITH SOME KIND OF CONDITION.
TWO, I I'M CONCERNED THAT SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT WE HAVE TO ENFORCE A POLICY ON A BUS FOR STUDENTS TO HAVE A CELL PHONE OFF AND STOWED AWAY ON A BUS DRIVER'S JOB.
THEY HAVE TO GET THE BUS PICK UP, THE STUDENTS RUN THE ROUTE, AND ALSO MAINTAIN THE, THE SAFE ENVIRONMENT IN THEIR BUS.
AND NOW THEY'RE ALSO SUPPOSED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING A CELL PHONE POLICY.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND THAT.
BUT I, I THINK MR. SHALIN, IF YOU CAN AT LEAST EXPLAIN THE LEGAL ASPECT OF THIS.
UM, IF YOU CAN GRAB 'EM, BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY PULLED THIS FROM THE NEW ACT.
IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY STATUTORY BASED COMING IN NOW.
ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE OTHER COUNCIL, COUNCIL, COME ON DOWN.
SO THE FACT THAT STUDENTS COULD POSSESS CELL PHONES BUT NOT UTILIZE THEM, THEY HAVE TO BE STORED.
IF THEY TOOK THEM OUT AND THEY ACTIVATED THEM, THEN, UM, THEN THAT COULD BE SOME DISCIPLINARY ACTION.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE POLICY OF THE DISTRICT, OR AT LEAST THE IMPLEMENTATION POLICY OF THE DISTRICT IS NOW ENACTED IN LAW AND IN THE HANDBOOK.
SO I WANT TO SAY THAT, BUT I'M GONNA LET, UM, DR.
PENN SPEAK, AND IF COUNSEL'S HERE TO KIND OF BACK HER UP, THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE ACT, THE LAW THAT IT ARISES FROM.
UM, AND HE'S RIGHT, THE, IT'S ACT THREE 13.
SO THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU SEE IS BASICALLY FROM, WE LIFTED IT STRAIGHT FROM THE LAW.
SO IN THAT, YES, STUDENTS CAN HAVE THE DEVICE, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE STOWED AWAY BECAUSE THE LAW STATES IT CAN BE ON, IT CAN'T BE ON THAT PERSON, BUT IT CAN BE IN THEIR BAG, AND IT NEEDS TO BE TURNED OFF.
SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS SENDING OUT INFORMATION TO PARENTS SO THAT PARENTS KNOW THAT STUDENTS WILL NEED TO HAVE THOSE DEVICES TURNED OFF ON THE BUS AS WELL AS WHEN THEY GO INTO THE SCHOOLS.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION AROUND THIS, IT, UM, FIRST OFF, IN, IN THE STATE LAW, DOES IT ALSO REQUIRE THE PHONE TO BE TURNED OFF OR NOT IN USE ON A SCHOOL BUS? YES, SIR.
AND I GUESS THIS IS A CONVERSATION FOR OUR LEGISLATORS, BUT I JUST, I HAVE A, I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE THE REASONING BEHIND WHY, UM, WE WOULD BE REQUIRING THAT OF OUR STUDENTS.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE, PUTS A BURDEN ON OUR BUS DRIVERS.
FURTHERMORE, I'VE HEARD SO MANY STORIES LAST YEAR, THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF SCHOOL, WHERE IF STUDENTS DIDN'T HAVE THEIR CELL PHONE AND IT WASN'T ON, THEN LORD KNOWS WHERE THEY WOULD'VE ENDED UP.
UM, AND SO I THINK WE'VE, WE GOT A PROBLEM HERE WITH THAT, BUT IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO HAVE TO FOLLOW STATE LAW.
BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU ALL, I, I'M GONNA USE A PHRASE THAT I USED TO HEAR IN HIGH SCHOOL IN REGARDS TO UNDERCURRENT.
SO I KNOW THAT
THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY SOME OF US CANNOT HEAR WHAT IS GOING ON.
SO IF YOU WILL, PLEASE, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM TALKING AND, AND ESPECIALLY AT YOUR NORMAL VOICE.
LET'S USE OUR WORD INSIDE VOICES.
UM, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF SCHOOL BOOK, I'M SORRY, UH, RULES AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK, UM, IN ESSENCE TO THE CONVERSATION IT'S HAD RIGHT NOW AROUND, UH, THE CELL PHONE POLICY.
UH, I HAVE A FEAR IN THAT IS THAT WE COULD HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF STUDENTS BEING PUT OUTTA SCHOOL FOR SIMPLY POSSESSING A CELL PHONE.
AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPULSION SUSPENSION.
TO ME, THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE, THE, THE REASON WHY YOU EX EXP, I'M SORRY, SUSPEND OR EXPEL A CHILD, IS BECAUSE THEY ARE, HAVE CREATED SOME LEVEL OF THREAT OR SOME LEVEL OF, UH, DISCONNECT WITH THE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT THAT IS JUST SO DISRUPTIVE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND IF YOU'RE TELLING ME A CELL PHONE IS ENOUGH TO DO THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE OR A PROBLEM.
AND WHAT I WOULD ALSO ASK IS THAT WHILE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE, THE HANDBOOK, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW THE RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT HAPPENS IF A CHILD DOES THIS.
BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN EXPULSIONS COME BEFORE US FOR TWO YEARS, FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT EVEN EGREGIOUS ENOUGH IN MY VIEWPOINT,
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TO PUT A KID OUTTA SCHOOL FOR TWO YEARS.AND WE IMAGINE HOW THIS HURTS OUR DATA, HOW IT HURTS THIS, UH, OUR STATS, AND ALSO HOW IT AFFECTS THE CHILD WHO'S NO LONGER LEARNING INSIDE OF A CONDUCIVE PLACE OF LEARNING.
SO I KNOW I'M PLACING A LOT AT YOUR HILL TONIGHT, UH, SUPERINTENDENT SMITH.
BUT THESE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS THAT AS WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN OVER YEARS, BUT THE CONVERSATION JUST HAS NEVER TAKEN PLACE.
SO TONIGHT, I JUST WANT TO USE THIS AS A WAY TO UPLIFT THAT CONVERSATION AND SAYING, I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THE WAY THAT WE ARE AT LEAST LOOK AT THE PROCESS OF WHICH WE ARE EXPELLING AND EXPOSING, I MEAN, SORRY, SUSPENDING AND EXPELLING KIDS.
AND HOW DO WE REMEDY THAT TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING A, A PROPER EDUCATION? 'CAUSE I'M SITTING AT HOME FOR SOMETHING LIKE A CELL PHONE THAT JUST TO ME, IS NOT CONDUCIVE.
I GET WE HAVE TO MAKE SOMETHING TO DO SOMETHING AROUND IT BECAUSE IT HAS BECOME AN ISSUE.
BUT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE EXPEL A KID FOR? THANK YOU.
UH, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH MY COLLEAGUE, MR. ALANIS.
THE, I THINK THROUGHOUT OUR EXISTING STUDENT HANDBOOK, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE CHANGES WE'RE ENACTING TONIGHT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE, THERE ARE TOO MANY OFFENSES WHERE THE, THE MANDATORY PENALTY IS EXPULSION.
SOME OF THOSE ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
UM, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THAT UP WITH OUR LEGISLATORS.
UM, BUT I THINK PARTICULARLY IT, IT, IT'S PARTICULARLY RISKY WITH THE CELL PHONES BECAUSE IT, IT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS MANY INNOCENT USES.
CERTAINLY IT CAN BE USED INAPPROPRIATELY BY STUDENTS TO, TO CHEAT, TO DISRUPT, TO MAKE THREATS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE'VE ALL, MR. ALANIS, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR YOU HAD OFFERED A, A POLICY ON CELL PHONE USAGE.
AND, AND I, AND I THOUGHT WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE STUDY AT THE TIME, BUT, BUT AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT WE'VE GOTTA COME TO GRIPS WITH IT.
IT IS NOT THAT THESE, THE USE OF CELL PHONES IN SCHOOLS ARE, IS NOT PROBLEMATIC.
IT IS, ESPECIALLY NOW WE GOT SMART WATCHES.
KIDS COULD HAVE THEIR CELL PHONE TUCKED AWAY AND STILL BE GETTING MESSAGES OR THE ANSWERS TO THE TEST ON THEIR SMARTWATCH.
BUT, UM, SO I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO THINK THROUGH THIS.
WHILE UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW RIGHT NOW.
IT, IT, IT, THIS CAN ALSO BE USED TO, TO PUNISH KIDS WHO, FOR WHATEVER REASON, SOMEBODY'S OUT TO GOT, GOT A, GOT AN AGENDA AGAINST THAT KID.
SOME TEACHERS TAKEN TO DISLIKE TO 'EM, SOME PRINCIPALS TAKEN DISLIKE TO 'EM.
UM, SOME, SOME OTHER STUDENT TAKES A DISLIKE TO 'EM AND, AND RATS 'EM OUT.
OR SOMEBODY SUDDENLY SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL, REMOVED FROM THAT BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO TURN THE PHONE OFF AND IT WAS IN THE, IN THEIR BACKPACK AND IT VIBRATED.
AND NOW SUDDENLY THEY GOTTA BE SUSPENDED.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS THE RIGHT THING.
SWITCHING GEARS, UM, MR. SANDLIN OR, OR, OR, UH, WHOMEVER, I THINK AS I READ THIS, LOOKING AT PAGE NINE OF THE PDF THAT YOU GAVE US, THERE, THERE, THERE'S A CHANGE IN LANGUAGE WHERE IT USED TO SAY THAT TALK ABOUT POSSESSION OR USE OF AN OBJECT AS A WEAPON, UH, SUCH AS A TASER OR USE OF MACE OR PEPPER SPRAY.
AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? AND THIS IS A CHANGE IN POLICY AND NOW MERE POSSESSION OF PEPPER SPRAY WILL NOT BE A DISCIPLINARY OFFENSE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT, THAT AROSE FROM ONE OF OUR APPEALS DISCUSSIONS YES.
THAT WE THEN BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE AS WE, AS WE DISCUSSED, AND THE, THE DISCIPLINARY REVIEW COMMITTEE APPROVED THAT CHANGE.
SO THAT WILL BE IN EFFECT FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.
I'M, I'M VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE, UH, HEARING THAT AND CONSIDERING THAT, THAT, THAT FOR MANY OF OUR STUDENTS, UH, PEPPER SPRAY IS NOT AN OFFENSIVE WEAPON, UH, BUT A, A, A DEFENSIVE ITEM THAT, THAT, THAT THEY, THAT MANY MAY FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WALKING TO AND FROM THE BUS STOP OR SCHOOL WITH.
WHILE, WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, I DO WANNA JUMP IN BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
THE ELECTRONICS POSSESSION INFRACTION IS A TIER TWO INFRACTION.
SO THAT'S NOT EXPULSION, UM, THAT GIVES THE PRINCIPAL THE OPTION TO, TO INTERVENE AT A NUMBER OF LEVELS, INCLUDING IN-SCHOOL ACTIVITIES, ET CETERA.
SO IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN EXPULSION LEVEL, UM, UH, RESPONSE FOR POSSESSION OF ELECTRONICS, LIKE A CELL PHONE POINT OF INFORMATION.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT CHILD HAS, LET'S SAY, EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF, EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF INFRACTIONS? IS IT D IS IT DNAA SUSPENDABLE ITEM SUSPENDABLE, BUT NOT EX, NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT AS, IT CAN'T BE USED FOR EXPULSION.
SO IF, IF THEY'VE HAD NUMEROUS IN, YOU KNOW, INFRACTIONS MAYBE WHERE FOR THE SAME REASON MM-HMM.
IF, IF THERE'S BEEN NO ADEQUATE RESPONSE FROM THE STUDENT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
UM, I HAVE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE AS WELL.
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IS STILL, THIS IS NOT A QUESTION, BUT REMINDING, AND I KNOW JUST AS MR. LANIS MENTIONED, MR. SMITH, WE, WE ARE PLACING A LOT AT YOUR FEET TONIGHT.BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, OR ONE OF THE STATEMENTS I HAD WAS, HOW DO WE HOLD, UM, TEACHERS AND, UM, ADMINISTRATORS ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL FOR DOCUMENTING THESE OFFENSES THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THE STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK? UH, JUST KIND OF GOING BACK THROUGH, AND, AND I KNOW, I KNOW MR. GODDE WOULD SAY THAT I'M BEING ANECDOTAL, BUT I, I HAVE TO PROCESS THIS.
MY FIRST SCHOOL THAT I WORKED AT CENTRAL MIDDLE, IT WAS A PART OF EAST BATON ROUGE AT THE TIME.
AND I REMEMBER OUR ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL LITERALLY USED THE STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK AS, AS HIS BIBLE FOR, UH, MAKING SURE THAT ALL STUDENTS WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE SCHOOL RULES WERE.
AND THEN I'VE WORKED AT SEVERAL SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT MY TENURE, AND EACH PRINCIPAL HANDLES THE STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK DIFFERENTLY.
UM, SOMETIMES THEY MAKE UP THEIR RULES AND SOMETIMES THEY LOOK AT CERTAIN RULES AND THEN BE LENIENT ON OTHER THINGS.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT DO WE HAVE A UNIFORM COMPLIANCE MEASURE FOR MAKING SURE THAT EVEN AS WE TALK ABOUT CELL PHONES, IS EVERY TEACHER GOING TO COLLECT OR CONFISCATE THAT CELL PHONE? ARE THEY GONNA STOP THAT CHILD FROM TEXTING ON THEIR PHONE? YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PROCESS.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE COMPLIANCE MEASURE FOR WHEN A SUB IS IN THE, IN THE CLASSROOM? DO THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE IN REGARDS TO COLLECTING CELL PHONES? WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, WHAT'S THE, THE COMPLIANCE MEASURE THAT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE FOR THOSE PRINCIPALS WITHIN THOSE PARTICULAR SCHOOLS? AND WHAT IS THE DOCUMENTATION MEASURE? AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ONE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET THAT PROCESS IN PLACE? SO I THINK THAT THOSE ARE, UM, MAJORITY OF MY THOUGHTS IN REGARDS TO THE STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK, AS WELL AS, UM, TALKING ABOUT HOW WE HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THESE RULES.
WELL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS POLICY CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK MOST DISTRICTS, ALL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT VERY CLOSELY.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, MOST OF THESE KIDS HAVE HAD CELL PHONES IN THEIR HANDS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEIR LIFE.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE TO SAY, OKAY, WE, WE ENACTED A LAW AND THAT WE EXPECT TEENAGERS, KIDS NOT TO HAVE CELL PHONES.
SO I THINK AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS REALLY MONITOR THE DATA AND SEE WHAT KIDS ARE BEING SUSPENDED OR DISCIPLINED FOR, AND WE CAN PULL THAT DATA OUT OF OUR ASSIST SYSTEM.
UM, BECAUSE OFTEN WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY WITH SUSPENSIONS AND EXPULSIONS, IT STARTS OFF AS A MINOR OFFENSE, PLEASE GIMME THE CELL PHONE.
CHILD SAYS NO, THEN IT TURNS INTO WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE AND THEN DISRESPECT A AUTHORITY, THEN IT MORPHS INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
AND SO WE REALLY HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR, OUR, UH, PRINCIPALS.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SET POLICIES AND MANDATES ON OURSELVES THAT SENDS US DOWN A, A RABBIT HOLE.
BECAUSE I CAN REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A FIRST, I WAS A PRINCIPAL AND, AND THE SCHOOL THAT I WAS AT, THEY HAD A POLICY AROUND T-SHIRTS.
STUDENTS HAD TO WEAR A CERTAIN COLOR T-SHIRT, OR EVERY STUDENT HAD TO HAVE A WHITE T-SHIRT.
AND I REMEMBER SAYING TO MYSELF, I'M NOT FINNA MONITOR EVERY KID THAT COMES THROUGH THE DOOR THROUGH LOOKING AT THEIR T-SHIRT.
AND SO, SO WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE.
AND I THINK HOW WE GET SOME QUALITY CONTROL OVER THIS IS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DATA.
UH, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS ARE, ARE MONITORING THE SUSPENSIONS AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXPULSIONS.
AND THAT'S WHEN SAID THERE ARE SOME, IT IS A TIER TWO INFRACTION.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR HEARING OFFICER TO MAKE SUR CERTAIN THAT IF ANY OF THOSE OFFENSE OFFENSES COME FORWARD SOLELY FOR A CELL PHONE, THAT THE HEARING OFFICERS, THOSE WHO HOLD THOSE HEARINGS TO KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE EXPELLABLE.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SAY, ACTUALLY, WELL PRETTY MUCH SAID, AND, UH, MR. SHALIN ACTUALLY, UH, SAID IT.
'CAUSE I ACTUALLY PULLED UP THE STATUTE ONLINE, UM, BECAUSE IT DOES INDICATE, UH, IN, UH, 17 2 39
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B ABOUT THE VIOLATION, UH, SINCE THEY SAID THAT WE WERE GOING BY THE ACTUAL CODE.AND THE CODE DOES SAY THAT, UM, THE VIOLATION MAY BE GROUNDS FOR DISCIPLINARY ACTION BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO SUSPENSION FROM SCHOOL.
MEANING THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SUSPENDED.
AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO ASK IN REGARDS TO THAT IS THAT, UH, LIKE, UH, PRESIDENT POWELL SAID ON SOME TYPE OF UNIFORMITY ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, AND THERE IS NONE THAT EXISTS NOW.
AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT IF SOMETHING IS IMPLEMENTED AS FAR AS VIOLATION PROTOCOL, THAT IT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED AND THAT ALL SCHOOLS AND PRINCIPALS DO FOLLOW THAT, BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD SEEM MORE FAIRLY, AND THEN IT WON'T PUT BOARD MEMBERS IN A POSITION WITH REVIEWING EXPULSIONS.
I BELIEVE THIS LAW MAY BE GOING AFTER OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO CELL PHONES, IN SCHOOL, VIDEO, AND DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FIGHTS, UH, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND FIVE MINUTES LATER IT'S ALL OVER THE CITY.
OKAY? SO MAYBE THIS LAW IS REALLY GOING AFTER SOMETHING ELSE, BUT PARDON ME.
OH, BUT FROM A VERY PERSONAL STANDPOINT, LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THAT PARENT THAT THIS PART IS IN THE STUDENT'S RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
WHAT THAT PARENT IS GOING TO TELL YOU, THAT THEIR RIGHT AS A PARENT TRUMPS STUDENT AND RIGHTS RESPONSIBILITIES.
I BOUGHT THAT PHONE FOR MY CHILD.
I PAID THE BILL FOR THAT, THAT BILL FOR MY CHILD.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE PHONE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL INCIDENTS WHERE I'VE HAD CHILDREN REFUSE TO GIVE UP THE CELL PHONE AND THE PARENT COMES TO SCHOOL AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN ALLY, AND THEY'RE TELLING YOU, YOU ARE NOT TAKING MY CHILD'S CELL PHONE.
CELL PHONES HAVE BECOME A DEFACTO BABYSITTER.
YOU CAN SEE KIDS CAN'T EVEN WALK YET, BUT THEIR ATTENTION IS FIXED ON THE CELL PHONE.
THEY KNOW HOW TO DO EVERYTHING, AND THEY CAN'T EVEN READ AND WRITE YET,
SO WE ARE, IT IS NOT A RABBIT HOLE, MR. SMITH.
WE ARE GOING DOWN IN A CRATER WITH THIS CELL PHONE.
AND IF WE'VE GOT PRINCIPALS, MR. PAT, UH, MR. MARTIN, IF WE'VE GOT PRINCIPALS AND TEACHERS THAT ARE HOLDING SOMETHING AGAINST THEIR KID AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE IT OUT ON THAT KID, THEN THAT PRINCIPAL AND THAT TEACHER NEEDS TO FIND A DIFFERENT LINE OF WORK.
DO NOT BRING YOUR BIASES TO WORK WITH YOU.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE KIDS, THEN FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE.
A HU I MEAN, IT'S LIKE ALICE IN WONDERLAND HOLE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE CELL PHONES.
AND I KNOW WE'RE PUTTING A LOT AT YOUR FEET, BUT YOU CAN HANDLE IT, BROTHER
I KNOW YOU, YOU CAN HANDLE IT.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
PARENTS FEEL LIKE THEIR RIGHTS WITH THEIR CHILDREN TRUMPS ANYTHING YOU CAN PUT IN A LAW, ESPECIALLY GOVERNING WHAT THEY DO WITH A CELL PHONE THAT THEY BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANECDOTAL OR NOT, MR. GODDE, BUT I LIVED IT EVERY DAY FOR 15 YEARS.
I REMEMBER THE ADVENT OF CELL PHONES WHEN THEY USED TO BE FLIP PHONES.
I, I WISH I HAD ONE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN IPHONE 16.
BUT, UM, SERIOUSLY, JUST A LITTLE HUMOR THERE.
BUT STILL, WE HAVE GOT TO TREAD VERY LIGHTLY WITH THIS CELL PHONE POLICY AND HOW WE ENFORCE IT.
UH, WELL, UH, WE WILL NOW GO TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
I'LL JUST SAY ONE OF, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING ABOUT AS MY COLLEAGUES WERE TALKING WAS AFTER SCHOOL DETENTION.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A, UM, A SCHOOL OR TWO THAT, THAT CHARGES THE KIDS $5 TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR PHONE BACK.
THE PARENTS HAVE TO COME GET IT.
AND THEY HAVE AFTERSCHOOL DETENTION.
UH, MS. MATTHEWS, I AM ON THE STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES,
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UM, HANDBOOK COMMITTEE.AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT.
UM, BUT BEFORE I SAY THAT ON THE CELL PHONE THING, UM, THANK YOU, UM, MR. SHALIN FOR BRINGING UP THAT IT IS A LEVEL TWO AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT A PRINCIPAL CAN DO WITH A LEVEL TWO.
YES SUSPENSION'S ONE, BUT THEY CAN ALSO JUST CONFERENCE WITH THE CHILD.
THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH A LEVEL TWO.
ALSO, UM, MANY SCHOOLS, MOST SCHOOLS HAVE A PROCEDURE.
IF YOU GET CAUGHT WITH A PHONE, THAT ADMINISTRATION JUST TAKES THE PHONE TILL THE END OF THE DAY AND THE KID SIGNS FOR IT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
I MEAN, TILL THE END AND THE KID SIGNS FOR IT TO RECEIVE IT BACK, OR POSSIBLY THE PARENT HAS TO SIGN FOR IT.
UM, BOARD MEMBER LEWIS, TO YOUR POINT, 100%, THAT IS WHY WE WERE ADAMANT THAT THE LANGUAGE OF IT BEING A STATE LAW WAS IN THE HANDBOOK.
SO THIS IS NOT ON THE ADMINISTRATORS.
PRINCIPAL CAN SAY, SIR, MA'AM, STATE LAW, THIS ISN'T US.
PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LEGISLATURES.
NOW FOR THE PART THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOU ALL IN HOPES THAT, UM, YOU GUYS CAN HELP THE TEACHERS OUT WITH THIS.
UM, BOARD MEMBER LANIS, YOU HAVE BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THINGS WITH SAFETY.
UH, PRESIDENT, UM, LEWIS, YOU BROUGHT UP SOME THINGS WITH SAFETY, WITH SOME THINGS WE'VE HAD IN SOME OF OUR OTHER SCHOOLS.
UM, LEVEL THREE, WHICH IS HEIGHTENED ADMINISTRATIVE INTERVENTION.
THESE THINGS ARE UP TO A PRINCIPAL.
YOU CAN GIVE DETENTION ISS SUSPENSION OR RECOMMEND FOR EXPULSION.
NOW, OF COURSE, RECOMMENDING FOR EXPULSION DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE CHILD IS EXPELLED.
ARSON, BATTERY, ASSAULT AND BURGLARY.
OKAY? THOSE ARE ALL OBVIOUSLY VERY ILLEGAL THINGS, RIGHT? CATCH A CLASSROOM ON FIRE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FUN STUFF, RIGHT? OKAY.
THOSE ARE LEVEL THREE, NOT LEVEL FOUR.
THOSE ARE NOT GOOD THINGS, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THINGS THAT MAKE TEACHERS FEEL VERY UNSAFE IN, IN, IN, IN THE SCHOOLS.
UM, MEANWHILE, SEX CONSENSUAL SEX.
WHILE WE DO NOT WANT OUR STUDENTS TO DO THIS, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.
IT IS AN AUTOMATIC UP FOR EXPULSION.
NOW, I'VE JOKED AROUND AND SAID THAT MY SON'S ONE-ON-ONE PARA DUE TO HIS AUTISM, HIS ONE JOB.
DO NOT LET THAT BOY DO THAT ON CAMPUS EVER.
IN, IN THE BOARD'S MIND ARSON, ILLEGAL.
THAT'S NOT AS BAD AS TWO 18 YEAR OLDS BEING CONSENSUAL SNEAKING OFF INTO THE BATHROOM.
WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS.
LET'S SET SOME DRAPES IN A, IN A CLASSROOM ON FIRE.
THAT'S ARSON, BUT THAT'S A LEVEL THREE.
WE'RE JUST GONNA SUSPEND THEM.
BEFORE MR. BOROUGH, I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE CORRECTION.
UH, MINORS CANNOT CONSENT TO SEX.
SO, SO EVEN IF IT'S CONSENSUAL, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
SO THAT'S WHY YES, THEY CAN, IT IS, THEY CANNOT CONSENT.
UH, SHE SAID 18 YEAR OLDS MINES IS 18.
OKAY, WELL, UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
UM, I JUST WANNA SPEAK ON TOO, ABOUT THE CELL PHONE THING.
BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE POWERLESS.
IF THE LAWS SAY THAT THE CHILDREN CAN'T HAVE CELL PHONES AND THEY HAVE A CELL PHONE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEIR PARENTS SAY, YOU TELL THEM WHAT THE RULES ARE.
IF THE SIGN ON THE DOOR SAYS, NO SHOES, NO SHIRT, NO SERVICE.
I DON'T GO IN THE RESTAURANT WITH JUST MY PANTS ON AND EXPECT TO GET SERVED, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE THEY COME, WELL, I PAID FOR AND I DID THIS.
GUESS WHAT I TELL 'EM, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU ARE RIGHT.
YOU DID PAY FOR THAT CELL PHONE AND THIS IS YOUR CHILD.
AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GET THAT CELL PHONE THAT YOU PAID AND THAT CHILD THAT YOU MADE, AND YOU CAN EXIT THE CAMPUS.
HOMESCHOOLING IS AN OPTION IF YOU CANNOT ABIDE BY THE RULES THAT ARE SET BY SOCIETY SO THAT WE CAN EDUCATE THE CHILDREN OF THOSE, UM, OF THOSE PARENTS WHO CARE ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THEIR CHILDREN.
BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I CAME HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
I CAME HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MS. STORM, UH, WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS THE SAFETY.
NOW, I JUST WANNA REMI REMIND Y'ALL, LAST WEEK WHEN THE, UH, THE OVERFLOW ROOM GOT A LITTLE BIT OUTTA HAND AND EVERYBODY WAS SCREAMING FOR, UH, MR. ADAM SMITH AND EVERYTHING, NO VIOLENCE WAS THREATENED AT ALL, BUT YOU ALL WERE PROTECTED BY A WALL OF POLICE OFFICERS.
BEFORE WE COME IN HERE, WE GET PAT DOWN, WE GET SEARCHED, IF I, MY KEYS, EVERYTHING, SHOES TAKEN OFF.
ALL OF THAT JUST TO GET INTO THIS SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
BUT WHEN IT COME TIME TO COME TO SCHOOL, ANY AND EVERYBODY CAN WALK IN AND OUT OF THE CAMPUS.
AND THEN IF YOU'LL LOOK AT IT THAT
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IF IT SAYS IF YOU COMMIT BATTERY OR AN ASSAULT ON A TEACHER, ON A TEACHER, THEN YOU GET THREE DAY SUSPENSION.NOW, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE CASES WHERE THE TEACHERS CROSSED THE LINE AND THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE CLASSROOM OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE CHILD WAS PROVOKED.
NOT SAYING THAT VIOLENCE IS EVER THE ANSWER, BUT I'M NOT JUST SAYING THIS ONE.
BUT MY THING IS, I SHOULD FEEL JUST AS SAFE IN MY CLASSROOM DOING MY JOB, FOLLOWING ALL THE GUIDELINES SET BY THE, THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
AS YOU FEEL SAFE SITTING IN THAT SEAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT IF YOU VOTE YES, OR IF YOU MOVE FORWARD ON THIS HANDBOOK THE WAY IT IS, AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOUR LIFE IS MORE VALUABLE THAN MY LIFE.
YOU ARE SAYING THAT WHEN I TURN MY BACK TO THE CLASS TO WRITE INFORMATION ON THE BOARD, TO EDUCATE THOSE CHILDREN, THAT I'M PUTTING MY LIFE IN DANGER AND YOU DON'T CARE.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THROW THE WHOLE BOOK AWAY, I'M JUST SAYING REVISIT IT.
AND I'LL SAY IT LIKE I SAID, AND I SAID IT EVERY TIME I COME UP HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO Y'ALL PUT TOGETHER TO MAKE THESE TYPES OF POLICIES AND BOOKS, BUT I'M SURE THEY ARE TOO FAR REMOVED FROM THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE FRONT LINE WHO HAVE TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE LACK OF GOOD DECISION MAKING FOR WHOEVER WROTE THIS.
EVERYBODY'S LIKE, WHEN I WAS IN THE FIFTH GRADE, I TOOK A DARE CLASS AND THE POLICE OFFICER ASKED US HOW VAL, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH IS A LIFE WORTH? AND WE ALL CAME UP WITH NUMBERS.
AND THEN SHE SAID, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT ZEROES ON THIS BOARD TO BUY ANOTHER PERSON'S LIFE.
BECAUSE ONCE IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE.
NOT JUST THE LIFE, BUT JUST THE SATISFACTION OF KNOWING THAT I'M IN A SAFE SITUATION.
ONE QUICK REMARK ABOUT CELL PHONES AND THEN MOST OF MY COMMENTS ARE ON BEHALF OF A, UH, FELLOW, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBER.
WHEN MY, UH, 30-YEAR-OLD CHEMICAL ENGINEER WAS A HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR AND DIDN'T HAVE A TEACHER IN HIS AP CLASS AND OFTEN DIDN'T HAVE A SUBSTITUTE, HIS ASSIGNMENT FROM HIS DAD WAS, WHEN YOU GET TO CLASS, SEND ME ONE TEXT.
TELL ME IF YOU HAVE A TEACHER TODAY.
AND SO, WHEN I DISCUSSED WITH THE AP WHEN THEY WERE GONNA GET THAT POSITION FILLED, SHE WAS MORE INTERESTED IN THE FACT THAT MY KID HAD A CELL PHONE ON CAMPUS.
THAT WAS A VERY SHORT CONVERSATION, UM, ON BEHALF OF A COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT DOESN'T FEEL SAFE IN THIS BUILDING ANYMORE.
UM, ONE QUICK ITEM WITH RESPECT TO THE LAST ITEM.
SHE WANTS THAT SURVEY SO SHE CAN COMMENT ON HOW HER SPECIAL NEED CHILD'S NEEDS ARE BEING ADDRESSED OR NOT.
HER QUESTION IS, DID THEY ENSURE THE RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK ADDRESSES ALL OF THE NEW LAWS, INCLUDING THE CREATION OF PLANS TO PREVENT CHILDREN DOCUMENTED WITH MENTAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS, TRUANCY MANDATED REPORTING, PARENTS, BILL OF RIGHTS, CHILDREN'S CODE, ET CETERA? BECAUSE HER PERCEPTION IS THAT IT IS NOT FULLY COVERED.
ALSO, SHE INQUIRES IF THEY ADDRESS THE NEW LEGISLATION REGARDING THE PREVENTION OF SUSPENSION AND EXPULSION AS PRESCRIBED PER LAW THAT ADDRESSED IN THE HANDBOOK.
AND FINALLY, BECAUSE NOT ALL OF YOUR STUDENTS OR PARENTS ARE FLUENT IN ENGLISH, SHE HOPES THAT THE HANDBOOK, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, WILL BE AVAILABLE IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, INCLUDING BRAILLE.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WOULD THE PARENTS BE GIVEN THE HANDBOOKS THIS YEAR? BECAUSE IN THE FOLLOWING YEARS, THE HANDBOOK IS NEVER FULLY READY.
THEY TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK IT UP ONLINE, BUT YET YOU SENT IT HOME FOR US TO SIGN A DOCUMENT SAYING WE HAVE RECEIVED THE HANDBOOK.
THEY DO NOT GIVE THE HANDBOOK OUT.
I REMEMBER IN MY SON, YOUNGER YEARS, YOU WOULD GET THE HANDBOOK WHEN YOU SIGN IT AND IT COMES HOME WITH YOU AND YOU SEND IT BACK THE LAST THREE YEARS, YOU DON'T GET NO HANDBOOK.
ONLY REASON I GOT A HANDBOOK, RECEIVED A HANDBOOK.
'CAUSE I WENT UP TO THE SCHOOL AND SAID, I NEED A HANDBOOK.
NOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO LIKE MR. BOROUGH SAY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR SCHOOLS? BECAUSE WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION OF OUR GOVERNOR, WE HAVE PEOPLE CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPONS WHO ARE NOT TRAINED TO CARRY CONCEALED WEAPONS.
AND I'VE BEEN STATING AT OUR SCHOOL THAT THAT IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER THAT A GUN HAS BEEN IN WOODLAWN AND A LOT OF OTHER SCHOOLS.
SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WHEN WE HAVE METAL DETECTORS? BUT THEY'RE NOT USED.
SO THAT GOES TO MY BOARD MEMBER, YOU, MR. SMITH, BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ANYBODY
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CHILD UP HERE, WE ALL ARE GONNA FEEL IT BECAUSE WE ARE A COMMUNITY.SO WOODLAWN HAS METAL DETECTORS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM USED JUST LIKE A BUNCH OF OTHER PARENTS AND INCLUDING THE TEACHERS.
IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S FOR EVERYBODY TO BE SAFE BECAUSE THESE TWO LAWS THAT ARE BEING PASSED IN LEGISLATION ARE A LITTLE RADICAL BECAUSE YOU'RE GIVING 18 YEAR OLDS THE RIGHT TO CONCEAL A WEAPON.
AND YOU HAVE 18 YEAR OLDS IN SCHOOL AND THEY DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE A GUN ON SCHOOL PROPERTY UNLESS YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, A OFFICER.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS HANDBOOK IS WRITTEN CLEARLY, CORRECTLY AND THAT WE PROTECT OUR STUDENTS AND OUR TEACHERS.
AND I'M TIRED OF TELLING Y'ALL IF WE HAVE METAL DETECTORS, PUT 'EM TO USE.
IT MAKES NO SENSE TO HAVE 'EM.
THAT'S A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS WASTED.
SO CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT MY PRINCIPAL HAVE HIS METAL DETECTIVES AND I'LL TALK TO HIM COMING UP THIS WEEK AT WOODLAWN AND ALL THESE OTHER SCHOOLS BECAUSE CERTAIN SCHOOLS HAVE 'EM IN CERTAIN SCHOOLS DOESN'T.
SO IF YOU CAN DO IT FOR THE, THE BAD KIDS THAT GO TO THESE, UM, SCHOOLS THAT GET PUT OUT, WHY NOT DO IT FOR EVERYBODY? 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S IN DANGER.
WE DO LIVE IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, I WILL BEGIN WITH, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M SO ADAMANT ABOUT ANYBODY SITTING ON THIS BOARD HAVING A FRONTLINE EXPERIENCE PRIOR TO BEING ABLE TO SIT ON A BODY OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
YOU ARE, I, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU AGAIN THAT YOU ARE LISTENING TO OR PERHAPS NOT LISTENING TO AN EXTRAORDINARILY SEASONED FRONTLINE PRACTITIONER.
I CAN WALK IN JUST ABOUT ANYBODY CLASS ANYBODY'S CLASSROOM AND TAKE COMMAND OF IT PROBABLY WITHIN 30 SECONDS.
CAN YOU IRRESPECTIVE OF THE CLIENTELE.
UH, I SPENT ABOUT 90% OF MY TIME IN AT RISK, UH, ALTERNATIVE OVER AGED SETTINGS WITH, UH, UH, VALLEY PARK WHEN IT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL HERE, WHERE WHEN, WHEN THE STUDENTS GOT EXPELLED, THEY DUMPED ALL OF THE EXPELS IN THAT AT THAT SITE AND WHAT HAVE YOU ON, IN OTHER WORDS, I SPENT MY TIME, UH, EDUCATING AND NURTURING THE STUDENTS THAT NOBODY ELSE REALLY WANTED TO BE BOTHERED WITH.
OKAY? THE, THE, THE, THE CASTAWAYS, THE THROWAWAYS RELATED TO THE CELL PHONE ISSUE, UM, THERE DOES NOT, THERE SHOULD NOT BE, UH, STUDENTS HAVE NO NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, USE A CELL PHONE IN SCHOOL, PARTICULARLY, UH, WITH THE ADVENT OF THE, THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE AND PORNOGRAPHY AND DEGRADATION THAT THEY HAVE IN THE PALM OF THEIR HANDS NOW.
AND WE'VE GOT FAR TOO MANY PARENTS WHO, UH, WERE NOT MATURE ENOUGH TO BECOME PARENTS WHEN THEY BECAME PARENTS AND THEY COME AND DEFEND THEIR STUDENTS.
AUSTERE AND RIDICULOUS BEHAVIOR.
UM, WHEN YOU GO TO COURT, WHEN YOU GO TO CERTAIN MEDICAL FACILITIES AND, AND OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN OUR SOCIETY, AND THESE PEOPLE TELL YOU ON YOUR HONOR, YOUR YEAH, YEAH.
TRY TO GO TO YOUR HONOR'S COURTROOM TALKING ABOUT BRINGING YOUR CELL PHONE AND THERE, AND GET CAUGHT WITH IT AND, UH, SEE HOW THESE PEOPLE GONNA DEAL WITH YOU.
OKAY? SO WHAT DO WE RESPECT IN THIS SOCIETY? IN OTHER SOCIETIES LIKE CHINA, UH, JAPAN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE THESE RIDICULOUS ISSUES TO DEAL WITH IN THEIR SCHOOLS.
WE ARE DISRESPECTING THE HELL OUT OF TEACHERS AND WE EXPECT THESE PEOPLE, OH, WE WANT SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA RAISE POINTS 10, 10 TO 20% AND STUFF TO THE FOUR PEOPLE WHO WROTE THAT LETTER.
I WANT YOU TO GO IN THE CLASSROOM AND THEN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT RAISING POINTS 2010 TO 20% WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A MENTALITY OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO ARE NOT VALIDATED, WHO ARE NOT MOTIVATED BY THIS BEAUTIFUL GIFT THAT US TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THEM.
OKAY? IT'S EASY TO TALK THAT NOISE WHEN YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE FRONT LINE IN DEALING WITH THE REALITY OF THE DAY TO DAY, MANY BY MINUTE, HOUR BY HOUR, UM, EXPRESSIONS THAT EXIST WITHIN THIS ARENA.
WE, THESE CHILDREN DON'T NEED A CELL PHONE.
UH, PICK 'EM UP AT THE OFFICE AND PICK 'EM UP AT THE END OF THE DAY AND DROP THEM OFF AT THE OFFICE.
PICK 'EM UP AT THE END, END OF THE DAY, IT IS AN EXTREME DISTRACTION, UH, HAVING THAT INSTRUMENT IN YOUR HAND.
PLEASE DO NOT HAVE TEACHERS CON HAVING TO CONTEND WITH THIS LUNACY AND ALL OF THE OTHER FOOLISHNESS THAT THEY MUST CONTEND WITH.
UH, JUST THANK YOU MR. STEWART.
GET RID OF THE CELL PHONE FOOLISHNESS.
TANYA MCMILLAN, PARENT OF A CHILD IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL SYSTEMS. BRING YOUR MIC UP JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
I AM TANYA MCMILLAN, PARENT OF A CHILD IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH
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SCHOOL SYSTEMS. UM, AND DURING, UM, THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH, I DID SOME RESEARCH ON ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT ONE OF THE CANDIDATES WAS FROM, AND THEY ALREADY HAD THEIR CELL PHONE POLICY, LIKE WRITTEN AND PUT OUT TO THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY LEFT UP TO THE DISTRICT TO PUT TOGETHER WITH THE DISCIPLINE IS GONNA BE, THE RULE IS NO CELL PHONES.THE DISCIPLINE PART IS PUT UP, IT'S LEFT UP TO THE DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEY HAD IT OUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THREE WEEKS AGO.
UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE DON'T NEED THEM IN SCHOOLS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE 'EM IN SCHOOLS.
YOU JUST WENT TO THE OFFICE AND ASKED TO CALL HOME AND EVERYTHING WAS FINE.
IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHERE YOUR KIDS ARE AT, YOU CAN PUT A LITTLE AIR TAG ON 'EM, YOU KNOW, OR IN THE BOOK BAG OR SOMETHING.
BECAUSE THE REALITY OF IT IS, IS THAT CELL PHONES IN SCHOOLS ARE DISTRACTIONS.
AND A LOT OF MESS GOES ON ON 'EM.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF RUMORS GET SPREAD, A LOT OF GOSSIP GOES ON ON CELL PHONES.
MY 9-YEAR-OLD WAS EXPOSED TO PORNOGRAPHY ON A CELL PHONE FOR THE FIRST TIME AT SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT I CRIED 'CAUSE I WAS LIKE, HIS INNOCENCE IS GONE.
'CAUSE HE WAS LOOKING AT SOMEBODY'S CELL PHONE AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT POPPED UP.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT HIS DISCIPLINE WAS? HE GOT IN TROUBLE.
HE WAS IN TROUBLE BECAUSE HE WAS LOOKING AT THE PHONE AND PORNOGRAPHY POPPED UP AND THEY TRIED TO PUT IN HIS RECORD THAT HE WAS LOOKING AT INAPPROPRIATE MATERIALS WITHOUT TELLING THE WHOLE STORY.
AND I TOLD THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, I SAID, LOOKING AT THIS THING, YOU WOULD THINK MY CHILD WAS A PERVERT.
YOU DIDN'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY.
SO WE TALK ABOUT DISCIPLINE TOO.
I THINK THINGS NEED TO BE SPELLED OUT AND, AND, AND OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, EMPOWERED WITH HANDING DOWN DISCIPLINE NEED TO REALLY BE TRAINED ON WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DISCIPLINING FOR AND HOW TO CODE THINGS AND ALL OF THAT.
'CAUSE THEY COULD RUIN A CHILD'S RECORD JUST NOT KNOWING, BEING IGNORANT OR BEING MALICIOUS.
SO AS A PARENT, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
I, I GUESS MISS YOU WITH THE CELL PHONE.
AND SO BECAUSE SHE'S TALL, SHE CAN REACH IT.
YOU KNOW, THE CELL PHONE IS REALLY AN ISSUE.
UM, IT'S A LOT SAID ABOUT THE KIDS AND STUDENT RIGHTS HANDBOOK.
WHAT ABOUT THE TEACHERS? YOU KNOW, THE TEACHERS USE CELL PHONES IN THE CLASSROOMS, JUST TO BE HONEST.
YOU KNOW, THEY SIT THERE, THEY HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES OUT THERE USING THEM AND SO FORTH, AND THE KIDS SEE 'EM USING THEM ALL.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TAKING A CELL PHONE FROM A STUDENT.
WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR IT? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES.
AND ESPECIALLY WITH HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S THE REASON THEY DON'T WANT TO DRESS OUT FOR PE RIGHT? COACH, BECAUSE THEY PUT THOSE EXPENSIVE TENNIS SHOES THAT THEY ARE IN THEIR LOCKER AND SO FORTH.
AND THE KIDS COME BACK AND THOSE TENNIS SHOES ARE GONE.
AND THE FIRST THING THEY TELL THE PARENTS THAT THEY CANNOT REPLACE THOSE TENNIS SHOES.
NOW, CBR LAW, THEY'RE GONNA TELL 'EM THEY'RE NOT GONNA REPLACE 'EM, OKAY? AND THEY CANNOT PROTECT THEM.
SO HIGH SCHOOLERS DON'T DRESS OUT.
THEY FAIL PE AND TAKE IT IN THE SUMMER WHERE THEY PLAY CHECKERS AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THESE CELL PHONES, WE KNOW WE GO BACK TO COLOMBA AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.
AND THOSE CELL PHONES PROTECTED AND SAVED SOME LIVES.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS A HALF DOZEN IN ONE HAND AND SIX IN THE OTHER.
BUT WE WAITED ALMOST TWO LATE TO MAKE THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF THEY HAVE THE CELL PHONES.
AND I UNDERSTAND IF YOU SAY WHAT'S, WHAT'S THIS GONNA BE? BUT EVERY CHILD AND EVERY PARENT SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE CELL PHONE USAGE.
IF IT'S GONNA BE DONE CLEAR BOOK SACK OR WHATEVER, OR IT'S GONNA BE TURNED OFF.
WHAT ABOUT THEIR FOOTBALL GAMES? THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE CELL PHONES ON THE CAMPUS AT ALL.
I MEAN, IT'S, A LOT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AND EVERY PARENT NEED TO BE KNOWN.
IT IS NO WAY THEY GONNA RIDE A BUS AND THAT CELL PHONE GONNA BE TURNED OFF.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR A BUS.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR EVERYONE IN THAT CLASSROOM.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME STRANGE AND HARD RULES FOR EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW AND FOLLOW THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE CALLING THEIR FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA ORDER LUNCH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE USED.
SO GRADE LEVEL IS GONNA PLAY A PART WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM.
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EVERY TEACHER'S NOT GONNA GIVE A KID A PASS TO GO TO THE OFFICE TO CALL IF THEY GET SICK AND SO FORTH.AND IT'S, A LOT OF THINGS GO ON WITH DIFFERENT, WITH MALES AND FEMALES THAT THEY'RE GONNA NEED AN EXCUSE TO GO TO THAT OFFICE AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO GO.
UH, AGAIN, I'M MARIA HARMON, A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT SIX, AND I'M ACTUALLY GONNA READ A, UH, COMMENT ON BEHALF OF A PARENT WHO LIVES IN DISTRICT SIX.
HER NAME IS CRYSTAL ELLIS LOOTER.
AS A PARENT WHO FIRMLY BELIEVES IN OBEDIENCE, I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND SAY THAT IF MY CHILD VIOLATES POLICY CONFISCATE MY CHILD'S PHONE AND I WILL SUPPORT YOUR DECISION.
I WILL ALSO ENSURE ONCE I'M PERMITTED TO RETRIEVE THE PHONE, IT WILL NOT RETURN TO CAMPUS.
AND, UH, JUST ON, JUST SPEAKING ON MYSELF, I HOPE THAT, UH, THE BOARD CONSIDERS A, UH, PLAN TO WORK WITH SCHOOL LEADERS TO ACTUALLY BRIDGE THAT GAP BETWEEN TEACHERS AND PARENTS TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE PARTNERSHIP WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SET EXPECTATIONS, SET STANDARDS WHERE EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EDUCATING KIDS.
SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
MR. MARTIN, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, NO, NO COMMENT.
MEMBERS, I WAS TRYING TO FILL OUT A CARD.
I WAS NOT INTENDING TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING TONIGHT OTHER THAN THE ITEM NUMBER ONE, BUT I HAVE THREE SCHOOL TEACHERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS ITEM, AND I WAS EXPLAINING TO THEM THAT IT'S REALLY NOT TOO MUCH AS THE BOARD CAN DO ABOUT LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED AT THE LEGISLATURE REGARDING A CELL PHONE.
HOWEVER, THEIR CONCERN IS, IS A LOT OF THEIR PLANNING THAT THEY HAVE GONE AROUND FOR MEDIA CLASSES REQUIRES CELL PHONES.
SO AT SCHOOLS LIKE WOODLAWN, GLEN OAKS, MCKINLEY, WHO HAS DIGITAL ARTS AND DIGITAL MEDIA, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING RESOURCES IN PLACE FOR THESE STUDENTS TO STILL BE ACADEMICALLY SUCCESSFUL.
SO THAT MEANS BUYING MORE CAMERAS, BUYING MORE TABLETS, OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO SO THAT THEY, THEY CAN JUST ALTER THEIR PLANS AND NOT ALTER THEIR GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND CURRICULUM.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON.
SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, I HAVE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE.
UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT CELL PHONES.
UM, I WILL SAY AS WE, UH, TALKED, I THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, LAST SCHOOL YEAR, OR POSSIBLY THAT MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, TWO SCHOOL YEARS AGO, MR. LANIS, WHEN, WHEN WE HAD THE SITUATION AT SCOTLANDVILLE HIGH, AND THEN WE TURNED AROUND AND HAD THE SITUATION AT THE ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL AS WELL, WHERE THE STUDENTS WERE INVOLVED IN AN ALTERCATION AND THEY EITHER WENT LIVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ON THEIR CELL PHONES OR THEY JUST OUTRIGHT CONTACTED THEIR PARENTS AND THEIR PARENTS SHOWED UP AT THE SCHOOLS PREPARED TO ASSIST THEM
AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE, WE NEED TO PROCESS, UH, IN REGARDS TO THIS.
UM, I ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT MR. BR IN THIS, UM, MR. BR MENTIONED SOME, SOME INTERESTING STANDPOINTS OR SOME INTERESTING STATEMENTS IN REGARDS TO METAL PROTECTORS AS WELL.
METAL DETECTORS, AS WELL AS MR. DORSEY AS WELL.
I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS, LONG BEFORE I EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT SERVING IN THIS ROLE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
BUT YOU GO THROUGH THE AIRPORT, YOU GO TO A, UM, STATE OR FEDERAL FACILITY, AND YOU HAVE TO PRETTY MUCH STRIP
BUT YET, OUR CHILDREN, OUR MOST PRIZED POSSESSIONS WHO ARE DEFENSELESS, WE CAN JUST WALK IN A CAMPUS OR WALK ON A CAMPUS AND NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WE HAVE ON US.
UM, I WAS THANKFUL LAST YEAR WHEN, UH, WE PUT FORTH THE EFFORT TO HAVE METAL DETECTORS AT OUR SCHOOLS.
HOWEVER, UH, OH, MR. ORMAN IS SETTING THE TIME ON ME.
LEMME, AND LET ME PUT THE TIMER ON.
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UM, AND, AND SO I WAS THANKFUL.
I WAS THANKFUL THAT WE HAD THOSE METAL DETECTORS, BUT I DID QUICKLY LEARN THAT THEY ARE NOT UTILIZED AS THOUGH THEY SHOULD BE.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE PREPARE FOR THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR, THAT WE ARE INTENTIONAL.
ONCE AGAIN, THE WORD INTENTIONAL KEEPS COMING UP, UM, WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE UTILIZING OUR METAL DETECTORS AND POSSIBLY EVEN PURCHASING MORE.
UH, WE KNOW THAT CERTAIN SCHOOLS HAVE TWO METAL DETECTORS INSTEAD OF ONE.
UH, THEY IN SOME CASES CHOSE TO PURCHASE A SECOND ONE ON THEIR OWN.
AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE NEED TO BE MAKING SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE USED, UH, TODAY AS MANY ON, ON MANY OTHER OCCASIONS, UH, WHEN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, WHEN YOU ARE AT THE FRONT DOOR, THEY WILL OFTEN GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AS I'M SURE SOME OF MY OTHER, UH, COLLEAGUES AS WELL, WHERE WE CAN GO AROUND THE SIDE OF THE METAL DETECTOR.
I SAY, NO, THE RULES ARE THAT YOU WALK THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR.
AND SO WE NEVER KNOW WHAT ANYBODY COULD BE CARRYING ON ON THEM.
AND FOR ME, I SAY, CHECK MY BAG BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR JOB IS, YOU KNOW? AND THEN ALSO ALLOW ME TO GO THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR AND MAKE SURE THAT I AM FOLLOWING PROPER PROTOCOL.
AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL GAIN THAT AS A PRACTICE IN OUR BUILDINGS, UH, FOR THE SAFETY OF OTHERS.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CELL PHONE SITUATION.
A LOT OF TIMES IN OUR SCHOOLS WHEN WE PROCESS THE FACT THAT WE'RE LIVING IN 2024, THE PRINCIPALS EXPECT THE TEACHERS TO HAVE THEIR CELL PHONE ON THEM BECAUSE THEY TEXT THEM DURING THE DAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BECOME, YOU KNOW, KNOWLEDGEABLE OF, OF, UH, OR COME UP WITH PRACTICES THAT WILL HELP US, UH, TO NOT ALLOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE ADULTS THAT ARE ON THEIR CELL PHONES.
LET'S FIND A DIFFERENT, UH, PROCESS FOR BEING ABLE TO, UM, FOR BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.
UH, ALSO GOING BACK TO WHAT MS. MATTHEWS MENTIONED IN REGARDS TO THE LEVELS OF THE INFRACTIONS OR THE LEVELS OF THE MISCONDUCTS, UM, SEX SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
BURNING DOWN A BUILDING SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
BATTERY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
BEFORE YOU LEAVE, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, UH, JUDGE GUIDRY, WE JUST, WE DO WANNA HONOR YOU.
SO YOU ALL PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE.
I KNOW HE'S BEEN WITH US A FEW TIMES.
I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO EASE OUT A LOT OF TIMES, OF COURSE, THOSE COLOR S
SO WITH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THOUGH, UM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY APPLYING THE RIGHT LEVEL OF A CONSEQUENCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT MS. MS. MATTHEWS WAS, UH, ATTEMPTING TO EXPLAIN TO US THAT SHOULD SEXUAL ACTIVITY ON A CAMPUS HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF A CONSEQUENCE THAN A PERSON WHO MIGHT BE TRYING TO BURN DOWN THE BUILDING.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PROCESS.
AND DO WE NEED TO, DO WE NEED TO EITHER UP THE CONSEQUENCE FOR ARSON AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, DO WE NEED TO REDUCE THE CONSEQUENCE FOR SEXUAL ACTIVITY? OR DO WE NEED TO MAKE BOTH OF THOSE, THOSE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, MISBEHAVIORS, MISCONDUCTS, UH, ON THE, ON THE SAME LEVEL AS FAR AS RAMIFICATIONS ARE CONCERNED? UM, AND THEN LASTLY, MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION TO MR. SHAMBLIN IS THIS, ARE WE ON A TIME RESTRAINT FOR ACCEPTING THE STUDENT HANDBOOK? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS, YEAH.
WE GOT 30 DAYS TO PUT IT IN PRODUCTION.
SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM YOU WANNA SPEAK? LOOK, I'M SPEAKING FOR ATTORNEY SHALIN.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I ASKED HIM THAT SAME QUESTION.
THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY I WENT IN THE QUEUE.
THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST THING THAT I SAY.
THE QUESTION WAS IS IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, UH, WILL IT PUT A BARRIER ON THE PRODUCTION OF THE HANDBOOK? AND HE SAID YES, BECAUSE IT TAKES 30 DAYS TO PRODUCE THE HANDBOOK.
NOW, HE SAID THAT IN INTERIM, THAT IF WE APPROVE TONIGHT, WE CAN MAKE AN IMMEDIATE AMENDMENT AT THE NEXT MONTH'S BOARD MEETING AND IT WILL GO UP DIGITALLY AND UNTIL THAT NEXT ROUND OF HANDBOOKS GOES OUT.
BUT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION, UM, THE LAW DOES REQUIRE, I BELIEVE, UM, THE DISCIPLINE REVIEW COMMITTEE TO REVIEW RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.
SO IF THIS BOARD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL CHANGES, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE HANDBOOK, YOU GET THAT TO DR.
LET HER REVIEW IT WITH SOME OF THOSE GROUPS BEFORE WE BRING IT TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
BECAUSE THAT GROUP TOUCHES A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, OTHER GROUPS, TEACHERS, PARENTS, ET CETERA.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU, I'M NOT TAKING YOUR TIME, SO I JUST USE IT TO POINT OF INFORMATION.
LOOK, I'VE BEEN GIVING AWAY A LOT, LOT OF TIME TONIGHT.
WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WHENEVER WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, I WOULD ASK THAT THIS, THAT, THIS, WHENEVER THE, THE, THE, UH, GROUP
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MEETS, COULD IT BE IN A SETTING WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO CAN ATTEND AND BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION? BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, YOU SAID IT IS.WELL, LET'S MAKE SURE COMMUNICATION PUSHES IT OUT IN EVERY SINGLE AVENUE VIA EMAIL TO PARENTS, TO STUDENTS, AND ALSO TO SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS SO THAT WE GET THE MOST INPUT BACK.
'CAUSE A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARING TONIGHT IS REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.
I'M GONNA STOP THERE 'CAUSE IT'S YOUR TIME.
LIKE I SAID, I KNOW I'VE BEEN GIVING AWAY TIME TONIGHT.
THE LAST IS, WHO DETERMINES WHO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE FOR THE STUDENT HANDBOOK? I KNOW THAT THAT ONE OF OUR, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTERS MENTIONED THAT.
SO WHO DETERMINES WHO DETERMINES WHO SERVES ON THE COMMITTEE IN THE PAST? IT WAS THE CHIEF, UM, DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICY, DR.
PENN, ALONG WITH INPUT FROM BOARD MEMBERS, STAFF, ET CETERA.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT, DR.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF YOUR BACKUPS, IT'S ALSO A REVISED STATUTE THAT STATES WHO HAS TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMITTEE.
SO IF YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD BEYOND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE TO SERVE, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN POSITIONS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT MUST BE A PART OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO THAT CAN BE FOUND ON BOARD DOCS THEN? YES, MA'AM.
DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I NOT TAKE THIS.
UH, WE HAD A LOT OF, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTARY AND COMMENTS, AND THERE'S SO MUCH THAT I'M STARTED WRITING STUFF DOWN.
UM, BUT I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT IS ALSO SOME PERCEIVED THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ALSO GET IN FRONT OF.
WONDER WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, SCHOOL SAFETY.
RIGHT? UM, AND WE DID A LOT OF DIALOGUE LAST YEAR ABOUT FENCES.
I'M NOT EVEN, I'M NOT KNOCKING THE IDEA OF FENCES, BUT FENCES DON'T STOP THE PERCEIVED THREAT THAT HAPPENS INSIDE OF A SCHOOL.
AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO BEGIN TO HAVE MORE.
WE TALK ABOUT METAL DETECTORS.
THERE'S TOO MANY BLIND SPOTS THAT ARE NOT BEING MONITORED.
IF A STUDENT, OR WHEN A STUDENT COMES ON CAMPUS, THE WAY THE NORMAL PROCEDURE IS, THEY DO IT IN THE MORNING TIME.
AFTER THAT, THE METAL DETECTORS ARE MOVED AND THEY UNPLUGGED.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A STUDENT GOES TO THEIR CAR? 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS OR STUDENTS THAT DRIVE CARS AND A WEAPON IS KEPT THERE.
THERE HAS BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE METAL DETECTORS ARE NOT GOOD.
I WOULD SAY THAT THE PROCESSES ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE GO ABOUT USING THEM HAVE TO INCREASE AND HAVE TO IMPROVE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COVER BLIND SPOTS AROUND SCHOOLS, LET'S SAY A KID.
'CAUSE A LOT OF OUR CAMPUSES ARE OPEN, LET'S SAY NOT EVEN A KID, BUT LET'S SAY THAT SOMEONE IS UTILIZING THE TRACK AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE CAMPUS AND THEY GO AND HIDE A WEAPON, COME TO SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY, WALK THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR, IS NOT DETECTED, BUT THEN THEY GO AND FIND A GUN THAT WAS HID THE DAY BEFORE.
THESE ARE BLIND SPOT MONITORING TECHNIQUES AND PROCESSES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY HAPPENING.
AND IT LEAVES AND OPENS US UP FOR MORE PERCEIVED THREATS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY DEFENSES ARE GOOD, BUT THERE'S BETTER TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CAN USE IN ORDER TO ALLEVIATE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WANNA REMIND US AGAIN, WE PUT MORE ON TEACHERS TO SAY THEY HAVE TO BREAK UP A FIGHT.
IF A TEACHER CURRENTLY GETS INJURED IN BREAKING UP A FIGHT IN EBR, THEY'RE LIABLE FOR THE INJURIES THAT THEY INCUR, NOT THE DISTRICT.
AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT BECAUSE THEY
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO OR IMPROVE AND MAKE BETTER OF.
I JUST REMIND US THAT BETWEEN 2022 AND 2023, WE HAD 6,500 FIGHTS, 6,500.
AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF DATA THAT WE HAVE TO USE IN REAL TIME TO COME UP WITH REAL SU REAL ACTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPROVE, NOT JUST OUR DISTRICT, NOT JUST OUR DECISION MAKING, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE SAFE WHEN WE GET THIS INFORMATION AND WE SIT ON IT, THAT DOESN'T INCREASE OR IMPROVE THEIR SAFETY OR EVEN THE SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS.
WHAT I WOULD ALSO SAY IS IT'S GONNA HELP US TO CUT DOWN ON TRUANCY WHEN WE DO THAT.
ALSO, I JUST REMEMBER WHAT, A FEW MONTHS AGO, SOMEONE CAME IN AND WE RECEIVED SOMETHING FOR TRUANCY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED WAS ASKED WAS THE BACKEND MONITORING OUR DATA? BECAUSE THE WAY THAT IT WAS BEING, THE WAY THAT IT WAS CURRENTLY OCCURRING WAS THEY'RE WAITING FOR SCHOOL TO START TO START MONITORING KIDS.
'CAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT STUDENTS WITH TRUANT LAST YEAR, HOW ARE WE TRACKING THEM BEFORE WE START THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR? A LOT OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE ANSWERED.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT PROCESSES.
AND I JUST WANNA SEE THAT THE PROCESSES ARE CHANGING SO THAT WE GET BETTER RESULTS MOVING FORWARD.
FIRST, I WANT TO TAKE EXCEPTION TO SOMETHING ON THE COMMENTER SAID, MR. STEWART, EVERY KID THAT COMES INTO OUR SCHOOLS IS ENTITLED TO A AND AND CAPABLE OF ACHIEVING A HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION WHERE THEY HAVE TWO PARENTS, ONE PARENT, NO PARENTS, GOOD PARENTS, BAD PARENTS, INDIFFERENT PARENTS, OVERBURDENED, OVERWORKED PARENTS.
THEY'RE ENTITLED TO A GREAT EDUCATION AND THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING GREAT WORK
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TO THE HIGH RIGOROUS, UH, UH, STANDARDS THAT MY COLLEAGUE MR. LANIS, UM, MENTIONED.AND I TAKE OFFENSE AT ANYBODY SUGGESTING THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT CAPABLE OF EDUCATING THOSE KIDS REGARDING THE HANDBOOK.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HEARD I HEARD TONIGHT THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT CONCERN ME.
I THINK THE, TO MS. MATTHEW'S POINT, THAT THAT THAT THAT POTENTIALLY, UH, ASSAULT AND COMMITTING CRIMES IS CONSIDERED IN OUR HANDBOOK LESS SEVERE OF A, OF A, OF AN OFFENSE THAN, UM, UH, THAN TWO STUDENTS HAVING INTERCOURSE ON CAMPUS, UM, IS, IS IS CONCERNING TO ME.
UM, UM, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO REWRITE OR EXAMINE EVERY PROVISION OF THIS HANDBOOK, UH, TONIGHT.
UM, I THINK MR. MILLBURY MAKES SOME EXCELLENT POINTS, UH, IN, IN A SIMILAR VEIN.
UM, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MANDATORY EXPULSION IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, HALF A JOINT IN YOUR BACKPACK, UM, REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, BUT NOT NECESSARILY MANDATORY EXPULSION FOR COMMITTING OTHER KIND OF CRIMES THAT DIRECTLY THREATEN, UM, OUR TEACHERS AND EMPLOYEES.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT, THAT, UM, THAT THE, UM, DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE, UH, AND, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION, UH, PROVIDE A REPORT MAYBE IN TWO MONTHS TO US, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT DESCRIBES THAT, THAT ADDRESSES THE ISSUES RAISED BY A NUMBER OF THE COMMONERS TONIGHT.
UM, AND IF CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE, RECOMMENDS THAT CHANGES THOSE CHANGES, EXCUSE ME.
UM, IN, IN TERMS OF TONIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB AS BOARD MEMBERS IS TO ENACT POLICY.
WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POLICY THAT WE ENACT, BUT IT, BUT WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT WRITE THE WORDS.
WE'RE NOT THE ONES THAT DO MOST OF THE WORK TO DETERMINE WHAT'S NECESSARY.
WE DEPEND ON, UH, OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND THE SUPERINTENDENT STAFF, UH, AND THE PROCESSES ESTABLISHED BY LAW, UH, TO DO THAT.
SO, SO IN MY VOTE TONIGHT, I'M GUIDED, UH, HEAVILY AND, AND, AND FEEL INHERENTLY THAT I NEED TO DEFER TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR SUPERINTENDENT.
SO I DO WANNA JUST ASK FOR THE RECORD.
SUPERINTENDENT SMITH, TH THIS POLICY, IT IS BEING RECOMMENDED TO US FOR ADOPTION BY THE DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE, BY DR.
AND I WILL, UH, VOTE FOR THE POLICY TONIGHT.
AND, AND, AND WHEN I SAY I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE COVERED WHAT LANIS, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE FOR DAY ONE OF SCHOOL TO COVER US, BECAUSE THESE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVERY YEAR, AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION AND MAKE AND AMEND.
UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF THESE CONVERSATIONS TONIGHT CAME UP IN MEETING, IN THE MEETING.
AND I'M SURE IF THEY DID, WE WOULD'VE ADDRESSED THEM THEN.
AND SO IF WE ALLOWED TO ADOPT THIS POLICY AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING, UH, OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS COMING FORTH.
I MEAN, THESE CONVERSATIONS DID COME UP IN THE DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND UNFORTUNATELY, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS VOTE, THEY VOTED AND THEY VOTED TO LEAVE THEM AT A LEVEL THREE.
AND MS. PEN, YOU JUST HIT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I WANTED TO, UH, MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTAND.
'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION ABOUT LEVEL THREE INFRACTIONS.
LEVEL FOUR IS AUTOMATIC LEVEL THREE.
I'M GONNA READ YOU WHAT'S IN THE HANDBOOK, UH, AROUND LEVEL THREE IN GENERAL DISCIPLINARY OPTIONS AND RESPONSES FOR MISCONDUCT.
THIS IS FOR LEVEL THREE SHOULD BE IMPOSED IN A PROGRESSION, BEGINNING WITH THE LEAST SEVERE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE.
HOWEVER, STRICTER REPO DISCIPLINE MAY BE INITIALLY IMPOSED IF IT IS AN APPROPRIATE DISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TO AN INFRACTION.
SO I DON'T WANT ANY, AND THOSE RESPONSES INCLUDE ASSIGNMENT TO ALTERNATIVE PLACEMENT OR RECOMMENDED EXPULSION.
SO OPTION TIER THREE ONLY GIVES A LIST OF POSSIBLE THINGS AND YOU, IT'S RECOMMENDED YOU GO IN ORDER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE THREATENS AND IT SAYS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, UH, ALL RECOMMENDATION FOR EXPULSION SHALL BE RESERVED FOR INFRACTIONS THAT EITHER THREATEN THE HAY HEALTH AND SECURITY OF STUDENTS AND STAFF, OR IN INFRACTIONS THAT INVOLVE WEAPONS AND OR DRUGS.
OKAY? SO I, I DON'T WANT TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE
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WE'RE BEING SO PRESCRIPTIVE IN HERE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT BURGLARY OR WE TALK ABOUT, UH, SOMEONE MENTIONED A FIRE.I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY, BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SETTING A TRASH CAN ON FIRE IN A, IN A GYM.
I REALIZE IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT
OKAY? BUT THE POLICY WE HAVE ALLOWS FOR THAT JUDGMENT CALL AND ALLOWS FOR THOSE THINGS IN THERE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S NEARLY AS BLACK AND WHITE AS SOME PEOPLE TRY TO PORTRAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LEVEL THREE AND A LEVEL FOUR.
LEVEL FOUR IS AUTOMATIC, AUTOMATIC LEVEL THREE ALLOWS THE DISTRICT TO APPLY JUDGMENT, BUT IT CAN GO ALL THE WAY AND IMMEDIATELY TO EXPULSION IF THAT'S REQUIRED.
SO I THINK A DISTINCTION'S BEEN DRAWN THAT'S NOT, THAT MAKES, WASN'T CLEARLY DRAWN, LET ME JUST PUT IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE I DON'T, I LIKE OUR POLICY THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT SOMETHING SO STRICT THAT WE MAKE SOMETHING A LEVEL FOUR AND IT'S A RELATIVELY MINOR THING, BUT THEN THEY GOTTA BE EXPELLED.
THAT'S, THAT'S, WE WANNA KEEP KIDS IN SCHOOL AND WE WANT TO ALLOW THE JUDGMENT OF ADMINISTRATION, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, TO WORK ON THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST RECOGNIZE, GO READ IT AND RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN A LEVEL THREE FOR WHAT YOU CAN DO.
UM, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT I THINK WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT CONVERSATIONS, SOME IMPORTANT PUBLIC COMMENT THAT RAISED SOME ISSUES THAT REQUIRE EXAMINATION.
UM, ONE, WE DIDN'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON OUR BACK FOOT TODAY, RIGHT? BUT I THINK FURTHER, AS I THINK ABOUT THE POSITION WE'RE IN, AND THIS IS DIFFERENT CONTEXT, BUT SO MANY TIMES AS A BOARD, WE HEAR REALLY VALID CONCERNS ABOUT ACTIONS WE'RE BEING ASKED TO TAKE ABOUT, UH, ADOPTING A POLICY, ADOPTING A BUDGET, MAKING ANY KIND OF DECISION.
AND BY THE TIME IT MAKES IT TO YOUR BOARD, UM, WE ARE AT THE FINISH LINE.
WE OFTEN HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO ACT.
AND SO MY THOUGHT AROUND THIS IS THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING OF AS A BOARD AROUND OUR POLICIES THAT ARE NOT JUST PRESCRIBED TO, UM, JUST ONLY FOLLOWING THE LAW, BUT WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS WORK, RIGHT? STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN PEOPLE ON THESE COMMITTEES ABOUT THAT WE HAVE TO ADOPT THIS EVERY YEAR AND, AND SUCH AND SO FORTH.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING UNDER A, A, A MANDATE OF COMPLIANCE IN HOW WE ARE DOING THIS WORK.
WELL, COMPLIANCE DOES NOT GET EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE TALKING ABOUT THE HARD THINGS.
AND SO AS A BOARD, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE OUR POLICIES AROUND STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK.
MAYBE WE NEED TO EXPAND THIS COMMITTEE.
MAYBE WE NEED TO REQUIRE AS A BOARD THAT WE SEE THIS EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
SO IT'S NOT DOWN TO, WELL, IF WE DON'T PASS IT TONIGHT, WE CAN'T PRINT IT.
SO WE, WE HAVE TO PUT THIS ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE ON OUR LIST, UH, AND BE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE ARE DOING THIS WORK SO THAT WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO AGREE TO DO.
AND, BUT WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DO SO.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENT FROM THE BOARD, WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
AND THIS IS ON ITEM 10, 20 24, 20 25.
STUDENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES HANDBOOK AND DISCIPLINE POLICY.
UM, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, MR. SHAMBLIN, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO ASK, WITH THE NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE STILL HAVE, DO WE HAVE TO TECHNICALLY WAIT UNTIL THE 8 45 8 50 TIME TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA EXTEND OUR MEETING? HER POLICY? IT SAYS EIGHT 50.
SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND COMPLYING WITH POLICY.
CAN I ASK A POINT OF ORDER ABOUT THAT? SURE.
IF, IF THE, THE, UM, THE, I THINK BY THE, BY THE TIME IT GOT TO BE 8 45, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS WILL TAKE VERY LONG.
WE MIGHT BE IN THE MIDDLE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION CONSIDERING APPEALS.
SO CONSIDERING THAT, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND OUR TIME AT TILL NINE? SURE.
I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT, THAT MOTION.
CAN WE SUSPEND THE RULES? BECAUSE I THINK THAT SOME POLICY, SO RULES.
SO, SO I THINK WHAT MR. LAN IS
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SUGGESTING IS BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE MEETING TONIGHT AND WHAT MAY BE REQUIRED, RATHER THAN EXTENDING THE MEETING TO NINE 30, YOU CAN SUSPEND THE RULES COMPLETELY SO THAT THE MEETING CAN GO PAST NINE 30.I DO, I I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO GO PAST NINE 30.
I, I, I'M, I AIN'T TRYING TO BE A TOUGH MANAGER.
I, I
SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN AND SECONDED BY MR. LANIS THAT WE SUSPEND THE RULES AND, UH, EXTEND OUR MEETING UNTIL 9:30 PM OKAY.
UM, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
SO SUSPENDING THE RULES UNTIL NINE 30, UM, MANDATES THAT REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE ARE AT NINE 30, WE'LL BE COMPLETE.
UNLESS THERE WAS ANOTHER MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AGAIN.
NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING.
'CAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN HE SAID SUSPENDING THE RULES, MEANING DARIUS MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT STAND, LIKE FROM WHENEVER WE, WE, WE COULD SUSPEND THE RULES TO GO INTO INDEFINITE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE MOTION IS.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE
JUST WANTED TO GET, JUST WANTED TO GET CLARITY.
SEEING NO FURTHER, UH, BOARD COMMENT.
FANNING PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA SAY.
SUSPENDING THE RULES ONLY UNTIL NINE 30 IS AN ASININE IDEA.
IF IT TAKES TILL MIDNIGHT, THAT'S TOUGH.
YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO HIRE A SUPERINTENDENT BECAUSE THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT EXPIRES ON EITHER MONDAY NIGHT OR TUESDAY NIGHT.
THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WAITING FOR FOUR HOURS FOR YOU TO DO YOUR ONE JOB.
SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, MR. STEWART? FREEZING IN HERE.
SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT IN REGARDS TO EXTENDING OUR TIME UNTIL 9:30 PM UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE AND THIS IS TO EXTEND OUR MEETING UNTIL 9:30 PM PLEASE VOTE.
[E.10. Hourly Rate-University Students]
HOURLY RATE UNIVERSITY STUDENTS DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO APPROVE A MAXIMUM HOURLY RATE OF $20 FOR UNIVERSITY STUDENTS SEEKING PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIALS IN AREAS OF EMPLOYMENT, WORKING EXTENDED DAY SCHOOL-BASED PROGRAMS. IS THERE A MOTION IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN? IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND.DID BY MR. RUS COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, MR. STEWART? YES.
THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I HAVE, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, WELL REQUEST RATHER THAT IT INDICATES FOR THE EXTENDED DAY PAY FOR CLERKS, SECRETARIES, AND PARAPROFESSIONALS TO BE PAID NINE 70 AN HOUR AND THE UNIVERSITY STUDENTS $12 AN HOUR.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GIVING OUR CLERKS, SECRETARIES AND PARAPROFESSIONALS LESS THAN THE STUDENTS COMING IN.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO ASK OUR SECRETARIES, PARAPROFESSIONALS AND CLERKS THAT ARE WORKING INSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT TO BE GIVEN A LESS PAY THAN THOSE COMING IN.
UM, SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, WE WILL NOW TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
FANNIE, YOU SHOULD DEFER THIS FOR A COUPLE REASONS.
UM, MS. STEWART'S CONCERNS THE ABSENCE OF THE SPONSOR AND THE FACT THAT IT OPENS A HUGE CAN OF INEQUITY WORMS. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT YOU SHOULD ALLOW AS A BOARD ONE SCHOOL TO PAY A MORE ATTRACTIVE PAY RATE TO THE SAME CLASS OF EMPLOYEES THAN ANOTHER SCHOOL.
IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT.
SO EITHER VOTE IT DOWN OR DEFER IT AND GET TO THE BUSINESS AT HAND.
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COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, WE WILL NOW RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.MR. RUSS? THANK YOU MR. SMITH.
I KNOW THAT, UM, WHEN THIS IDEA WAS PRESENTED, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THESE RATES ARE SET.
COULD YOU, I GUESS, GIVE ME SOME EXPLANATION ON HOW THE RATES FOR EXTENDED DAY PAY ARE DETERMINED? THE ORIGINAL RATES WERE, ARE SET BY THE BOARD, WHICH IS IN OUR CURRENT, UH, GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
HOWEVER, UH, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES, YOUR PARAPROFESSIONALS, YOUR UH, UM, CLERKS, UH, ANYTIME THAT THEY WORK 40 HOURS OR MORE, THEY GET TIME AND A HALF.
AND IN THIS COMMUNICATION THEY WERE, THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO, UH, MS. SOLE.
AND SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ACTUAL REASON WHY SHE WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD.
I DIDN'T HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH HER.
I DON'T KNOW IF MR. SHAMLEY, YOU'VE TALKED WITH HER SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHY THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? YEAH.
I THINK MS. SU, MS. SOLE RECEIVED, UH, A REQUEST FROM ONE OF HER CONSTITUENT SCHOOLS, UH, WHO WANTED TO, UH, CONSIDER A PAY INCREASE FOR STUDENT WORKERS, UH, UNIVERSITY STUDENT WORKERS TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO INCREASE IT UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, BUT ALSO MAINTAIN THE MINIMUM LEVEL SO THAT SCHOOLS WOULDN'T BE LOCKED INTO THE MAXIMUM.
UH, OVER SOME TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
UM, UH, AND WE, WE DETERMINED AS MR. SMITH SAID, THAT, UH, NONE EXEMPT NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY BY POLICY RECEIVED TIME AND A HALF.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CALCULATION FOR THEM, ON AVERAGE, THEY ALREADY RECEIVED THAT AMOUNT.
IF THEY WORK OVER, OVER THE STANDARD WORK WEEK, THE 40 HOUR WORK WEEK, STUDENTS DON'T.
SO WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH MS. SOLE AND WITH HER, UH, CONSTITUENT.
UH, AND THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH THE MOTION OF, WITH THE ITEM THAT WE CREATED BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO MEET THE NEED AND THE REQUEST OF WHAT SHE WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE, WE TOOK OUT THE NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY ALREADY RECEIVED THAT THROUGH POLICY.
THEY GET TIME AND A HALF YEAR POLICY STUDENTS DON'T.
SO TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT, 'CAUSE YOU'RE FOCUSING ON THE TIME AND A HALF MM-HMM.
WHEN NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING EXTENDED DAY, ARE THEY GETTING, ARE THEY ESSENTIALLY ALWAYS BEING OVERTIME PAID? OVERTIME? THEY SHOULD BE.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, UH, IN ALL TRANSPARENCY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INSTANCES WHERE MAYBE SCHOOLS DIDN'T HANDLE THAT CORRECTLY.
SO WE TALKED WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT TRYING TO CORRECT THAT.
BUT THEY SHOULD BE PAID, UH, AS YOU INDICATED, PER POLICY, ADDITIONAL PIE.
SO THEIR BASE RATE IS NINE 70 AN HOUR, BUT THEN TIME AND A HALF WOULD APPLY AT THEIR HOURLY RATE.
AND THEN UNIVERSITY STUDENTS DURING EXTENDED DAY WORK, THEY'RE GETTING PAID $12 AN HOUR 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT MAKING TIME AND A HALF, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO IN, IN, IN ACTUALITY, OUR CLERKS, SECRETARIES, PARAPROFESSIONALS, ARE MAKING MORE AT THEIR BASE MORE WHEN THEY ARE WORKING 'CAUSE THEY'RE WORKING TIME AND A HALF THAN WHEN OUR STUDENT WORKERS ARE COMING IN AT A BASE RATE OF $12 AN HOUR.
MATHEMATICALLY, THAT'S WHAT I WANT.
'CAUSE I WOULD'VE A PROBLEM WITH THAT TOO.
I KNOW A LOT OF SECRETARIES, CLERKS AND EVERYTHING WHO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THEY PROBABLY DON'T GET PAID NEAR AS WHAT THEY'RE WORTH.
UM, AND THEY'RE VERY QUALIFIED AND, UH, I WOULD HATE SEEING SOME FRESH FACED 18-YEAR-OLD COMING IN MAKING MORE MONEY THAN ME AT AN EXTENDED EXTENDED DAY PROGRAM.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, MS. DOLE'S NOT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR THIS, BUT I I WOULD SUGGEST TO MOVE THAT WE WE MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT TO AUGUST IF WE FEEL THAT THIS NEEDS MORE WORK.
'CAUSE I WANT HER HERE TO DEFEND IT IF SHE WANTS IT TO PASS.
SO YOU'RE PROVIDING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YEAH, I THINK IT, AND I, OKAY, SO THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL I SAY TO THE, TO THE AUGUST CAL OKAY.
UNTIL THE AU TO THE AUGUST COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING.
AND IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MS. STEWART.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, MR. ALANIS? UM, I WAS, I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT.
I ACTUALLY ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE TO DO THE SAME THING.
I JUST THINK IT'S TOO MUCH INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
FEENEY SAID, UH, SO ELOQUENTLY, I GUESS IT'S THE, THE BLAZER AND THE, AND THE TIE, UH, MS. SOLE ISN'T HERE, AND THAT'S THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION.
SO THAT'S SOME QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO HER ALSO AS TO HOW EXACTLY DID THIS COME ABOUT? WHY DID THIS POLICY, LIKE WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE INTEREST BEHIND THE POLICY? BUT I I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE, UH, SUBSTITUTE.
VERY QUICKLY, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, I, I AGREE WITH THE, UH, SUBSTITUTE
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MOTION, BUT THESE ARE NOT JUST COLLEGE STUDENTS.THESE ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS PURSUING CERTIFICATION.
AND SO SOME OF THIS IS A RECRUITMENT TOOL AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS WHERE WE KNOW THE SHORTAGE TEACHERS WE HAVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FLAVOR GOT THROWN INTO THIS, THAT IT'S NOT JUST ANY COLLEGE KID COMING OFF THE STREET, IT'S KIDS COMING IN WANTING TO WORK AND ARE PURSUING CERTIFICATION.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS IN THE DISCUSSION.
SEEING NO FURTHER, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
UM, WE WILL NOW RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND THIS IS ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
AND THIS IS ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL THE AUGUST COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING.
[E.11. Litigation]
12, LITIGATION CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM GWEN SHALIN, GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL BOARD IN THE MATTER OF VIVIAN FIELDS VERSUS BERKELEY INSURANCE COMPANY, THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL BOARD, AND SHARON D. ROBERTS IN SUIT NUMBER 7 2 3 0 4 6 SECTION 23 19TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT, PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE, STATE OF LOUISIANA.AND TO PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS.
IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN.
IS THERE A SECOND? IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MR. LANIS COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL NOW TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND RETURNING TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, WE'LL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE ON ITEM 12.
[F.1. Appeal Hearing-Student Expulsion]
UM, I ALPHABET F NEW BUSINESS F1 APPEAL HEARING STUDENT EXPULSION APPEAL HEARING FOR A STUDENT EXPULSION.UM, AND I BELIEVE MR. SHAMBLIN, IS THIS THE POINT WHERE WE DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, MA'AM.
UH, I MOVE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THIS APPEAL.
SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN F1.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN AND SECONDED BY MR. LANIS THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, IN REGARDS TO ITEM F1, UM, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND BACK TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
AND MR. SHAMBLIN, SINCE WE, IF WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH ROOM WILL WE BE IN? YOU GOTTA GO IN HERE OR YOU GOTTA GO TO A, OKAY.
SO THE, THE CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY BEHIND US.
SO, UH, WE WILL NOW CAST A, A VOTE.
RECALL THE VOTE REQUIRED OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU HAVE ONE IMPORTANT JOB TONIGHT.
MAKE SURE YOU DON'T LEAVE BEFORE YOU GET IT DONE.
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WE WILL NOW IT SUSTAIN A VOTE.WE WILL NOW REPORT TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM, UM, IMMEDIATELY BEHIND US.
GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN, EVERYONE.
IT IS 9:00 PM AND SO, UH, MR. SHAMBLIN, WE, WE NEED TO TAKE A MOTION FOR, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE AFFIRM THE EXPULSION RECOMMENDATION.
IT IS, IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. RUSS AND SECONDED BY MR. LANIS, UH, THAT WE WILL AFFIRM THE RECOMMENDATION, THE EXPULSION RECOMMENDATION, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, SEEING NONE, WE'LL NOW TURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL RETURN BACK TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
AND THIS IS ON, UH, THE FIRST APPEAL HEARING, UH, STUDENT EXPULSION HEARING.
[F.2. Appeal Hearing-Student Expulsion]
NOW ON, UH, ITEM TWO, APPEAL HEARING STUDENT EXPULSION, RECOMMENDED ACTION APPEAL HEARING FOR A STUDENT EXPULSION COLLEAGUES.I MOVE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THIS APPEAL.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MR. LANIS.
MR. RUSS? YEAH, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STUDENTS AND WE NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
UH, SECONDING WHAT, UH, BOARD MEMBER RUSS SAID ALSO, THERE'S SOME NEW EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED.
SO WE, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HEAR THIS FOR SURE.
I JUST WANNA ASSURE THE AUDIENCE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR OUR HEALTH, THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST GOING EXACTLY WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES US TO DO.
SORRY ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO NECESSARILY.
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
RETURNING TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
WE WILL ENTERTAIN A VOTE, AND THIS IS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE SECOND APPEAL HEARING, PLEASE VOTE.
RETURNING TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY BEHIND US.
IT IS 9:15 PM UM, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE SECOND APPEAL HEARING? MADAM PRESIDENT? UH, YES.
I MOVE TO AFFIRM THE RECOMMENDATION FOR EXPULSION.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. RUSS.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE PROVIDE THE FAMILY WITH, UH, ANY PROGRAMS THAT THEY CAN ENROLL THE CHILD IN TO HELP CUT TIME DOWN.
SO MOVED BY MR. RUSS AND SECONDED BY MR. LANIS.
UH, THAT, UM, THE EXPULSION BE AFFIRMED WITH THE CAVEAT OF MAKING SURE THAT THE FAMILY KNOWS ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
BACK TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
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PLEASE VOTE.CONSIDERING THAT IT IS NINE 17, I JUST WANT TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES, ONCE AGAIN, DO WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE DESIRE TO EXTEND THE TIME? YES.
SO, MR. LANIS, ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? YES.
BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION, I'M ALWAYS DOING THIS BECAUSE, UH, WHAT IS FAIR AND PRACTICAL? WE, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE, UH, HEARINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT OUR STUDENTS FIRST.
HOWEVER, WE CANNOT IGNORE THE COMMUNITY'S COMMENT.
SO WE HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THE NIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S A SACRIFICE THAT WE OUGHT TO MAKE.
AND OUR, I'M WILLING TO MAKE THAT SACRIFICE MYSELF.
I WASN'T LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, BUT I WILL MAKE THE SACRIFICE TO ENSURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN BE HEARD AND THAT WE CAN ALSO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS ITEM SO WE ARE NOT CONTINUOUSLY PUSHING IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. LANIS, UH, THAT WE EXTEND OUR MEETING, UM, UNTIL WE HAVE COMPLETED THE BUSINESS.
IS THAT OKAY? I WOULD ASK MR. LANIS, WOULD HE CONSIDER 10 O'CLOCK? I CONSIDER 10 30.
SO, SO I MOVE THAT WE EXTEND OUR MEETING TO 10 30, NOT TO EXTEND PAST 10 30.
MR. ALANIS MADE THE MOTION AND SECONDED BY MR. GOE THAT WE EXTEND OUR MEETING UNTIL 10:30 PM COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? YES, MA'AM.
POINT, JUST A POINT OF ORDER QUESTION.
MR. MARTIN IS THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
SO, SORRY, MOTION TO, TO SUSPEND THE CURRENT RULES AND EXTEND THE MEETING TO LAST NO LONGER THAN 10 30.
THE MOTION IS TO EXTEND THE RULES AND TO EXTEND THE MEETING UNTIL 10, NO LONGER THAN 10 30.
AND THIS REQUIRES A VOTE OF SIX.
OKAY, SO THIS REQUIRES A VOTE OF SIX, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
FANNING, YOU'VE HAD SIX MONTHS, WHETHER IT'S PAST YOUR BEDTIME OR NOT.
DO NOT PUT AN ARTIFICIAL LIMIT ON THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE ITEM THAT THEY'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR.
MR. ROBINSON, YOU ALL MAKE SURE Y'ALL PUT IN A CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT EXPULSIONS ARE PUT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW IS PUTTING STUDENTS FIRST.
WE HAVE 41,000 STUDENTS THAT NEED A SUPERINTENDENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.
MR. GODDE SAID EARLIER, WE'RE SIMPLY FOLLOWING THE LAW BY GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND DOING THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING THAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
THE LAW ALSO SAYS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO PLACE A SUPERINTENDENT.
THERE'S NO WAY POSSIBLE WE CAN ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER AND THEN GIVE YOU GUYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DELIBERATE AND THEN HAVE MS. CHRISTELLE COME UP AND ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
BY 10 30, I WOULD SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER THE TIME RESTRAINT THAT YOU'RE PUTTING ON THIS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE 2:00 AM MEETINGS ANYMORE THAT SO MANY OF US HAVE HAD SO MANY TIMES.
BUT THIS ONE WE NEED TO TAKE FOR THE TEAM AND GET IT DONE.
UM, WE NEED TO HEAR, HOPEFULLY IT WON'T BE 2:00 AM BECAUSE I'M TIRED, BUT WE NEED TO GET DONE WHAT NEEDS TO BE GOT DONE TO BE HEARD AND GET IT DONE.
WHATEVER IT TAKES, GET IT DONE.
SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL NOW RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
OKAY, MR. LANIS, BECAUSE THE MOTION IS ALREADY ON THE FLOOR, I WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN, AND I HOPE THAT THE SECOND ON THE MOTION WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTER, TO ENTERTAIN ANY EXTENSION AT THIS TIME ON THE, ON THE TIME THAT WE END THE MEETING, I'M THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, SO I CAN'T CHANGE IT.
SO SOMEBODY HAD TO OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND I, I'M, I'M OPEN TO ACCEPTING THAT, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE, UH, COMMENTS WERE.
I, I'M, I'M THE SECONDER AND I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT.
AND THE REASON WHY WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND ADD SOME MORE TIME IF WE WANT TO.
BUT I ALSO HOPE BY HAVING A TIME LIMIT, THAT WE WILL GET CONCISE COMMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AND
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IT WON'T DRAG ON FOREVER AND EVER.SO I WOULD, I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE HOLD TO THE 10 30.
IF WE'RE STILL DOING PRODUCTIVE WORK BY THAT TIME, WE CAN PUT ANOTHER MOTION TO EXTEND.
OKAY? SO THIS DOESN'T CUT IT OFF.
I MEAN, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE MOTION, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO ADD, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE EXPEDIENT AND EFFICIENT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
SO I WILL NOT ACCEPT NO, THAT'S OKAY.
AND, AND I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT UNDERSTANDING THE COMMENTS.
YEAH, UNDERSTAND THE WAY THAT I, THE WAY THAT MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS AROUND IT IS EACH PERSON'S GONNA GET ABOUT 30, I'M SORRY, THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
AND IF THAT RENDERS ITSELF, LET'S SAY 30 PEOPLE WANNA SPEAK, WELL THAT'S 90 MINUTES IS AN HOUR AND 90 MINUTES ALREADY KNOCKED OFF.
AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING BOARD COMMENT, THAT'S NOT INCLUDING MS, UH, MS. CHRISTELLE GIVING ANY UPDATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I SAID THAT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE THE ROOM TO DO SO.
AND IT'S, IF WE CAN, THAT'S FINE.
AND WE ALL, WE ALSO COULD GO TO TWO MINUTES INSTEAD OF THREE IF WE'D LIKE TO.
THE PRESIDENT ALSO JUST WANT TO ADD AS WELL THAT WE DO HAVE ONE PRESENTATION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, UH, WHICH IS, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE BATON ROUGE AREA YOUTH NETWORK.
SO WE WANNA KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL.
SO, UH, COACH, IS THERE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR? OKAY.
SO, UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'VE NOW HAD BOARD COMMENT AND WE ARE AT THE PLACE OF SUSPENDING THE, UH, THE SUSPENDING, THE, THE RULES, UM, AND EXTENDING OUR MEETING UNTIL 10:30 PM UM, WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
[F.3. Appeal Hearing-Student Expulsion]
WE ARE NOW TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM THREE.APPEAL HEARING, STUDENT EXPULSION APPEAL HEARING FOR A STUDENT EXPULSION.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE, WE ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THIS APPEAL? OKAY.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN AND SECONDED BY MR. GODDE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THIS APPEAL.
UM, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.
WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALRIGHT, DO WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE VOTE.
WE WILL NOW RE UM, RETURN TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THIS.
ONCE AGAIN, IT IS 9:42 PM AND IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? YES.
MS. STEWART? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO, UM, CHANGE THE DECISION TO, UH, LONG TERM SUSPENSION AND GIVE CREDIT FOR, UH, THE TIME THAT SHE'S BEEN OUT OF, UM, THE FACILITY AND RETURNED TO SCHOOL ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY ALL OF IT.
SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MS. STEWART, SECONDED BY MR. MARTIN.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, SEEING NONE, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
SEEING NONE WILL RETURN TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
[03:55:06]
PLEASE VOTE.[F.4. Selection of The Superintendent]
SO WE NOW MOVE TO ITEM E ONE.SO I WILL JUST SAY THIS TO MS. UH, JASMINE AND MS. JAN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ITEM E ONE IS THE HOTTEST ITEM OF THE EVENING.
UH, IF WE HAPPEN TO NOT GET TO YOUR PRESENTATION, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, GET A CHANCE TO HEAR FROM YOU AT, AT AN UPCOMING MEETING.
BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE HOTTEST ITEM TONIGHT IS E ONE.
OKAY? SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SMITH
ALRIGHT, UH, ALPHABET E UNFINISHED BUSINESS ITEM ONE, SELECTION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT RECOMMENDED ACTION DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS AND RELATED MATTERS.
UM, MR. SHAMBLIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US SOME, SOME GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION CONSIDERING ALL THE MOVING PARTS OF THIS ITEM? UH, YES.
SO WHEN THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY SET, UM, WE HAD CANDIDATES FINALISTS TO CONSIDER.
UM, AS OF TONIGHT, THERE ARE NO FINALISTS TO CONSIDER.
AND SO THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO TAKE A VOTE, UH, ON THIS ITEM, UM, A POLL VOTE TO DETERMINE, UM, IF WE COULD, IF ELECT THE SUPERINTENDENT.
BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, THAT PLAN HAS TO GO AWAY.
AND AS THE CHAIR, YOU CAN ENTERTAIN MOTIONS, UM, OR COMMENTS ON THE ITEM.
UH, BUT TRADITIONALLY WE'LL TAKE A MOTION FIRST AND THEN A COMMENT.
OKAY, SO ANY MOTIONS AND OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES AT THIS TIME? UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE MR. MARTIN, UM, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM.
UM, UH, AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, ONE BOARD MEMBER BECAUSE OF A LONGSTANDING PRE-EXISTING ENGAGEMENT IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE RECEIVED JUST THIS MORNING, UM, UH, GUIDANCE FROM, UM, FROM OUR COUNCIL, UM, IN, IN REGARDING RELEVANT LAWS APPLICABLE TO THIS, UM, WHICH WE HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO FULLY DIGEST, UM, AND, AND CON CONSIDER THE RAMIFICATIONS OF ADDITIONALLY SINCE WE RECEIVED THAT WE HAD THE NEWS, UH, ABOUT, UM, MS. ZAYAS DROPPING OUT.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT.
WE DO HAVE THE DEADLINE COMING UP.
I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO, TO BE PRESENT, TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND FOR US TO HAVE HAD THE ADDITION, THE BENEFIT OF A FEW DAYS, UH, MORE TO CONTEMPLATE THE LEGAL ADVICE THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO RESET THIS.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS TO CALL FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.
UM, MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO CONSIDER THIS ITEM, UM, NEXT TUESDAY, UH, JULY 23RD.
IF, AND MY INTENTION IN THAT IS TO BE A DATE THAT WE CAN ALL BE THERE.
I'VE HEARD VARIOUS THINGS OF WHEN TRAVEL PLANS ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE PLANNING AND WHATNOT.
SO I'M FLEXIBLE AS TO THE DATE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A DATE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE NEXT WEEK WHEN THE ENTIRE BOARD CAN COME.
OKAY? SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. UH, MARTIN THAT WE, UH, MOVE THIS ITEM TO A DATE NEXT WEEK THAT ALLOWS FOR ALL TO BE ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO BE IN ATTENDANCE.
AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT? OKAY.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? CAN I DO A FRIENDLY, UH, YOU, I MEAN JUST, WELL PLEASE, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? YES MA'AM.
BASICALLY YOU SAID TUESDAY AND I DON'T THINK ALL OF US ARE GONNA BE HERE TUESDAY, SO I WAS JUST GONNA ASK THAT WE CHANGE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THE 23RD IS THE DATE, CHANGE IT TO EITHER THE, UH, FOLLOW THE WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY.
UH, WE, IF, IF WE CAN ALL MAKE IT ON WEDNESDAY, I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO THAT'S FINE.
TO, TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR WEDNESDAY.
IS EVERYBODY CAN EV CAN ALL OF MAKE WEDNESDAY? YEAH.
THEN, THEN, THEN WEDNESDAY, THE JULY 24TH.
OKAY, SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN AND SECONDED BY MR. RUSS THAT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UM, BE BROUGHT, UH, IN A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 24TH.
IF I MAY, AS I SECONDED AND THERE WAS A FRIENDLY BEFORE, I AGREE WITH THE FRIENDLY.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNSEL.
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WE ALL KNOW THERE'S A BIG TICKING CLOCK RIGHT OF JULY 23RD.UH, WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE IS AS A BOARD, WE CAN'T STAND IN VIOLATION OF STATE LAW TO NOT HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT WITH A CONTRACT.
WELL, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF, OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE RESEARCH.
WE, WE CALLED YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AN INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT WHO'S BEEN APPOINTED.
HIS CONTRACT BASICALLY MIRRORS WHAT STATE LAW SAYS.
AND ESSENTIALLY IT SAYS THAT HE WILL REMAIN THE INTERIM UNTIL THIS BOARD ELECTS A PERMANENT SUPERINTENDENT.
NOW, THE LAW PRESCRIBES THAT THE BOARD CANNOT EMPLOY AN INTERIM FOR LONGER THAN A SIX MONTH PERIOD.
HE WAS APPOINTED ON THE 24TH, 23RD, 23RD AND OF JANUARY, WHICH WOULD MEAN THE 23RD OF THIS MONTH WOULD BE THE SIX MONTH, UH, LIMIT.
AND SO BEYOND THAT POINT, PER HIS CONTRACT, HE WOULD REMAIN THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT, BUT THE BOARD WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF LAW.
AND SO THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF KIND OF UNKNOWNS, RIGHT? YOU WOULD HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT IN PLACE, WHICH YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO, BUT YOU WOULD BE TECHNICALLY IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW BECAUSE THAT SURPASSES THAT SIX MONTH LIMIT.
OKAY? DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. RUSS? OKAY.
SO ARE YOU REMAINING THE SECOND ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. MARTIN, SECONDED BY MR. RUSS WITH A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT THIS ITEM, UM, BE BROUGHT BACK TO US IN A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 24TH.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, I'VE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE.
UM, UH, BUT I BELIEVE MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
UH, THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT.
UM, PERSONALLY, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH THE CURRENT MOTION BECAUSE IT PUTS US OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF STATE LAW, WHICH MAKES OUR BOARD LOOK LIKE WE ARE NOW ORGANIZED IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
IF WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING, LET'S GIVE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT, UM, ADAM SMITH, A 30 DAY CONTRACT.
SO AT LEAST WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAW.
AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THIS NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN RAISE APPLIANCE.
UH, EXCUSE ME, WE WILL NOT HOLLER FROM THE AUDIENCE.
SO FOR POINT OF INFORMATION, FOR THE PERSON WHO MADE THE COMMENT FROM THE FLOOR, SUPER, I'M SORRY, UH, ATTORNEY SHALIN, CAN WE DO A 30 DAY CONTRACT WITH THE CURRENT PERSON THAT WE HAVE? AND ANY, AS SOON AS WE SELECT THE NEXT PERSON, THAT CONTRACT CAN END PER STATE LAW.
THE BOARD CAN PRESCRIBE ANY TERM FOR THE PERMANENT APPOINTMENT OF A SUPERINTENDENT NOT TO EXCEED FOUR YEARS.
SO THAT, THAT COULD BE ONE DAY, THREE DAYS A WEEK.
IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE BOARD AND ITS, ITS DESIRE, UM, IF YOU CHOSE TO DO THAT.
SO I'M SAYING 30 DAYS IN CASE WE COME HERE NEXT WEEK AND WE GO IN THE SAME PLACE AGAIN, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
WE ARE HAVE A DUTY, A SWORN DUTY WHEN WE CHOSE TO RUN FOR THESE SEATS.
AND TONIGHT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
IF WE'RE GONNA WALK AWAY DOING ANYTHING.
THE NEXT THING I'LL SAY IS, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW SALT OR PUT FIRE ON A FEW, BUT THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT SPEAK ON THAT COMMENT.
AND IT WAS IN TERMS OF WHY HE WAS NOT SELECTED OR WHY THE CHOICE WAS SELECTED BY BOARD MEMBERS.
AND I CAN'T TELL THEM HOW TO FEEL.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT I FELT AS THOUGH THE ASSESSMENT WAS FLAWED BECAUSE WE GAVE HIM AN INTERIM POSITION.
WE DIDN'T PUT ANY PERFORMANCE EXPECTATIONS OUT THERE AT ALL.
AND WE EXPECTED HIM TO SOMEHOW FIX, FIX A LEAK INSIDE OF A BOAT.
NOW THE TWO THINGS THAT WE DID SPECIFICALLY OUTLINE THAT WERE COMING UP AND THAT HAD ABSOLUTE IMPORTANCE WAS THAT TRANSPORTATION AND THE BUDGET.
NOW, WHEN WE HAD THE TRANSPORTATION MEETING INSIDE OF THIS ROOM, I HEARD EVERYBODY SAY THANK YOU.
WE ARE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE.
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR FLEET ARE LIKE.
NOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO PURCHASE BUSES, WE CAN NOW LEASE THEM.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT NOW WE HAVE AC ON BUSES AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT LEAN FROG IS HELPING US TO WORK THE SITUATION OUT.
THOSE THINGS WERE DISCUSSED, THEY WERE FIXED WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET.
EVERY SINGLE THING THAT BOARD MEMBERS SAID TO COME BACK AND CHANGE, HE WAS OPEN TO IT AND WE DID IT.
I'M SIMPLY ASKING TONIGHT THAT WE MAKE A DECISION SO THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
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NOW YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO TONIGHT.I WANT TO PUT UP A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE SELECT INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT SMITH, PUT HIM ON A 30 DAY CONTRACT WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WHENEVER WE SELECT THE NEXT SUPERINTENDENT, IT WILL END THAT CONTRACT SO THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
THAT'S A SIMPLE ASK THAT REQUIRES A SIMPLE ANSWER AND I'LL STOP THERE.
MOTION MR. THAT'S, THAT'S HIS.
THAT IT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT WE, UH, APPOINT MR. SMITH ON A 30 DAY CONTRACT.
UM, AND HE WILL SERVE UNTIL ANOTHER SUPERINTENDENT.
THOSE TWO TERMS, DON'T THOSE TWO TERMS DON'T.
THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION, BUT GO AHEAD.
EITHER IT'S A 30 DAY TERM OR UNTIL A PERMANENT, BUT, BUT, BUT THE PROBLEM HERE IS ONLY AN INTERIM CAN SERVE UNTIL A PERMANENT IS PLACED.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE ACTUALLY CREATING A PERMANENT APPOINTMENT.
AND SO THAT NEEDS TO, NEEDS TO HAVE A DEFINITE TERM.
OKAY? AND SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE ACTUALLY TAKING YOUR INTERIM, CONVERTING HIM TO A PERMANENT APPOINTMENT.
AND SO YOU GOTTA GIVE IT A TERM.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAID I'M SORRY.
'CAUSE IF I SAY TWO WEEKS AND WE COME BACK IN HERE NEXT WEEK AND WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY SELECTED, WELL THEN WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT BACK OUTSIDE OF COMPLIANCE AGAIN.
SO I'M TRYING TO GIVE US ENOUGH WIGGLE ROOM TO SELECT, MAKE THE SELECTION THAT WE NEED WHILE ALSO STAYING IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
I ALSO NEED TO CAUTION THE BOARD ABOUT PUBLIC EVALUATION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.
UM, AND MR. LANIS, I APPRECIATE YOU THE WORDS YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY, BUT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS BOARD IN THIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY ISSUING ANY PROFESSIONAL OPINIONS ABOUT HIS COMPETENCE OR ANY CANDIDATE'S COMPETENCE, CHARACTER, ET CETERA, WITHOUT GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND FIRST NOTIFYING THAT PERSON AS IS APPROPRIATE UNDER THE LAW.
SO MERELY A CAUTION EVERYONE AS WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION, RIGHT? CAN I DO A POINT OF PRIVILEGE AND I KNOW I'M MIXING THE QUEUE ANYWAY, UM, AND BASED OFF OF WHAT MR. LANDIS JUST DESCRIBED, AND HE SAID THE 30 DAYS, BUT BASICALLY IF WE, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY VIABLE CANDIDATES OR ANYBODY, UM, TO PUT INTO THE POSITION, WE HAVE TO OPEN IT BACK UP FOR POSSIBLE PERSONS TO APPLY OR BE OPEN JUST IN CASE WE DON'T GET THOSE VOTES.
AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT FOR 30 DAYS.
SO MY FRIENDLY UH, UH, CHANGE WOULD BE AT LEAST 60 DAYS BECAUSE WE WOULD, AND I'M SAYING THAT TO SAY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 30 DAYS IF WE WERE TO OPEN, IF WE WERE OPEN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
UM, MR. SHAMBLIN, UH, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO, UH, GIVE US ENOUGH TIME JUST IN CASE THAT OPTION HAS TO BE UTILIZED IF NOBODY IS CHOSEN.
SO KIND OF, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO KIND OF MS OH, FOR CLARIFICATION MR. SHAMAN FOR CLARIFI, BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT CLARIFICATION, DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND SECOND THAT'S ON THE FLOOR? YES.
SO, OH, SHE WAS OFFERING THE FRIENDLY, I WAS TRYING TO CHANGE THE FRIENDLY TO INCREASE THE TIME BASED OFF OF THE, UH, TIME THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO UTILIZE WITH THE 30 DAYS.
WE WOULD STILL BE IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT.
WE WOULD HAVE WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.
UH, WE WOULD STILL, IF WE ONLY DID THE 30, IT WOULD PUT US BACK IN THE SAME SITUATION IF WE WEREN'T TO IDENTIFY A SUPERINTENDENT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO OPEN THE POOL BACK UP IF WE DON'T GET FIVE VOTES FOR ANYBODY.
SO HERE, HERE'S THE CONCERN AND I NEED TO GIVE YOU GUYS' INFORMATION, BUT YOU'RE MAKING MOTION SO I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR DISCUSSION, BUT WHEN YOU APPOINT A PERMANENT SUPERINTENDENT, OKAY, THERE'S SOME NOTICE REQUIREMENTS THAT KICK IN FOR THAT SUPERINTENDENT.
IF YOU TAKE, IF YOU WANT TO END HIS CONTRACT, GENERALLY IT'S A 90 DAY NOTICE TO END THE CONTRACT.
AND SO ALL THIS HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING HIS TERM OR THE TERM OF THAT, THAT THAT CONTRACT.
AND I SAY THAT TO SAY YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS YOU SET THIS TERM.
30 DAYS PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH TIME BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA GOTTA GIVE A 90 DAY NOTICE BEFORE YOU END THE CONTRACT.
ALSO, IF YOU APPOINT A PERMANENT SUPERINTENDENT AT THE END OF THAT CONTRACT, WE WOULD NEED TO REOPEN THIS ENTIRE PROCESS UP AGAIN, CONDUCT ANOTHER, UM, SEARCH, ADVERTISE POSITION, SOLICIT APPLICATIONS, ET CETERA, BECAUSE YOU'RE ENDING THAT SUPERINTENDENT'S TENURE THAT YOU APPOINTED.
THAT'S WHY I KNEW THE 30 DAYS WOULDN'T WORK
SO, MR. LANDIS, ARE YOU ACCEPTING THE, THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? YES.
I'LL ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE FACTS OF WHAT WAS JUST SAID.
SO, SO I GUESS LEMME COME BACK TO YOU ATTORNEY SHAMBLIN.
IF WE DID THIS TONIGHT, DO WE DO 30, I MEAN, SORRY, WOULD IT, DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO DO 90 DAYS INSTEAD OF 60 IN YOUR, IN YOUR HONEST OPINION? I THINK YOU JUST TURNED YOUR MIC OFF
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IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO AT LEAST 90 OR MORE.YOU HAVE TO GIVE A 30 DAY NOTICE.
AND, AND KEEP IN MIND, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF, OF ADVERTISEMENT.
IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOUR PLAN IS TO SOLICIT, TO FILL THIS POSITION PERMANENTLY BEYOND THAT CONTRACT, AND THIS IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED, YOU'VE GOTTA RUN THREE ADS AND WAIT 30 DAYS AFTER THE LAST AD BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A PERMANENT APPOINTMENT.
SO THIS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN SIMPLY CREATING THAT TERM.
UM, WE PROBABLY NEED TO THINK OUT WHAT YOU GUYS PLAN WOULD BE WITH REGARD TO YOUR LONG RANGE OR YOUR LONG TERM, UH, YOUR LONG TERM PLAN IN TERMS OF HOW YOU WANNA MOVE WITH A PERMANENT APPOINTMENT.
MAY I HAVE A POINT OF WATER FOR MR. SHALIN? YES.
IF, IF WE GAVE A 90 DAY CONTRACT.
'CAUSE I RECOGNIZE WE GOT TIMING AND STUFF LIKE THAT WITH INTENTION OF OPENING IT.
AND ON THE FIRST DAY HE SIGNED IT, WE GAVE HIM NOTICE.
SO THAT THE END OF 90 DAYS WE'VE GONE THROUGH A PROCESS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING AND WE CAN HIRE WHOEVER WE WANT AT THE END OF 90 DAYS.
AND 90 DAYS CAN, WE CAN GIVE HIM NOTICE THE DAY HE SIGNS THE CONTRACT.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
SO I NEED A FRIENDLY TO, THAT'S MY DO 90 DAYS.
THAT'S THE FRIENDLY WITH THE 90.
I JUST WASN'T SURE ABOUT THE TIME.
I WASN'T SURE ABOUT THE TIME, BUT I KNEW IT WAS SOME TIMEFRAMES IN THERE AND IT HAD TO BE MORE THAN 30.
SO MADAM PRESIDENT, THE MO, THE MOTION IS TO NAME, UH, INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT ADAM SMITH AS PERMANENT SUPERINTENDENT FOR 90 DAYS OF THE CAVEAT THAT WE PUT THE NOTICE OUT ON THE FIRST DAY.
CAN I, CAN I ASK FOR A FRIENDLY ON THAT? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE CAN WE ADD TO THAT, THAT AS PART OF THAT THE BOARD GIVES NOTICE ON THE DAY HE SIGNS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER VOTE ON THIS.
I SAID THAT'S THE CAVEAT WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE PUT THE NOTICE OUT THE DAY THAT HE SIGNS THE NOTICE TO CANCELLATION.
BUT THAT'S PART OF THE, THE MOTION.
SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR A 90 DAY CONTRACT TO NAME INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT, PERMANENT SUPERINTENDENT, UH, FOR 90 DAYS WITH THE CAVEAT TO THE CANCELLATION BEGIN ON THE FIRST DAY.
IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MS. STEWART.
UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, MS. STEWART? OKAY.
I DISAGREE WITH THE MOTION FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
ONE, IT'S BEING, UM, HAPHAZARDLY, UH, CONCOCTED.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS.
WE CAUGHT ONE OF THEM JUST NOW, BUT THERE ARE UNDOUBTEDLY OTHERS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I, UM, AGREE WITH THE, THE LEGAL OPINION, UH, THE LEGAL, THE SUGGESTION FROM COUNSEL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, UH, NECESSARILY ADVERTISE THIS FOR THE WHOLE 30 DAYS.
UM, I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS IN FACT WHAT THE LAW SAYS, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO FULLY REVIEW BECAUSE I ONLY RECEIVED YOUR, YOUR OPINION OR THE OPINION OF OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL THIS, THIS MORNING.
AND, AND SO, UM, I DO NOT WANT US TO BE LOCKED INTO A 90 DAY, UM, CONTRACT IF IN FACT WE MAY FIND ON FURTHER EXAMINATION WITH, WITH COUNSEL, UM, PERHAPS WITH THE, THE, THE ASSISTANCE OF AN OPINION FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY NEED TO, TO DO THAT.
AND WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS THAT MIGHT REVEAL TO THEMSELVES, TO US NEXT, NEXT WEDNESDAY AT A SPECIAL MEETING.
UH, AS, UH, MR. SHALA BELIEVE, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU PREVIOUSLY PINED THAT THERE ARE NO PARTICULAR, UM, PENALTIES OR CONSEQUENCES PROVIDED FOR THE SIX MONTH SUPERINTENDENT POSITION.
AND, AND SO CONTRACTUALLY, CAN I DO A POINT OF INFORMATION? I'M SORRY.
BECAUSE THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
THIS WAS SET PRECEDENTS, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE ARE HOPING THAT NOTHING HAPPENS, BUT BECAUSE THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED NOW STATE'S HISTORY, THAT THAT'S A COMMENT, NOT A POINT.
I'M, OH, WELL, LEMME GET TO THE POINT OF INFORMATION.
ATTORNEY SHAMBLIN
'CAUSE I, I'M NOT AWARE OF ALL THE HISTORIES OF EVERY SCHOOL BOARD IN THE STATE.
UM, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL, UM, WE, WE ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA OF AN INTERIM SERVING BEYOND THE, THE SIX MONTH LIMIT IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO DEFEND THE BOARD AS I THINK MR. UM, MARTIN SUGGESTED, IF WE HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME LEGAL CONSEQUENCES.
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R MANDAMUS, UH, FILED AGAINST THE BOARD ORDERING US TO APPOINT SOMEONE.WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THAT MR. SHALIN PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THAT THAT TERM MEANS.
IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY IN TALKING THE MIKE FOR, FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN ORDER, UM, TO DO SOMETHING SPECIFIC, RIGHT? AND SO THE, THE, THE, UM, THE BOARD COULD RECEIVE AN ORDER TO APPOINT A SUPERINTENDENT, WHICH PUTS YOU RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU ARE NOW, RIGHT? AND THE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES POTENTIALLY COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE ATTORNEY'S FEES, COURT COSTS, ET CETERA, UM, OR CONTEMPT OF COURT IF YOU FAIL TO, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT ORDER.
AND SO WE FEEL THAT, UM, IF YOU WERE TO USE THE INTERIM BEYOND THAT SIX MONTH, YOU MIGHT FACE THAT CONSEQUENCE.
BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT COUNSEL BELIEVES WOULD BE A POTENTIAL OUTCOME.
SO, TO CONTINUE, AND I HOPE I WON'T HAVE THAT, THAT DOESN'T ALL GO INTO MY TIME, CORRECT.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THE, THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION MAKES A A A, A FAIRLY LONG-TERM COMMITMENT, UH, IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT, AND THAT, THAT, THAT IN, IN A VERY SHORT TIME PERIOD, THAT WE'RE STILL UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE RIGHT NOW.
UH, I BELIEVE THE BETTER APPROACH IS TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEDNESDAY WHEN WE'VE HAD MORE TIME TO CONTEMPLATE THE, OKAY, PLEASE REMAIN, PLEASE REMAIN QUIET, PLEASE.
YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU COULD DO A WEDNESDAY WHEN I WAS SPECIFICALLY ASKING, AND APRIL CAME AND LET ME KNOW THAT MY FLIGHT GETS BACK IN TOWN AT NIGHT, SO I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE HERE THURSDAY'S FINE THEN, THEN, THEN THURSDAY, THAT'S FINE BY ME NEXT WEEK.
I THINK THAT'S A MUCH BETTER APPROACH.
I WON'T BELABOR ALL THE THINGS THAT GOT US INTO THE SPOT THAT NONE OF US WANT TO BE IN.
EVERYBODY'S ANNOYED, AGGRAVATED, AND DISAPPOINTED IN EACH OTHER.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY BENEFIT FROM REHASHING ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT I DO NOT THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE TO COMMIT US TO 90 DAYS OF SOMETHING WHEN IN FACT WE MAY, IF WE TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO CONSIDER IT, UH, BE ABLE TO FIND A BETTER SOLUTION, UH, THAT WILL NOT INVOLVE US HAVING TO RE ADVERTISE AND, AND LEAVE OUR STUDENTS SO UNCERTAIN WHEN, UH, WHAT THE FUTURE'S GONNA BE WHEN SCHOOL STARTS.
MR. CHALIN, IF, I HOPE MY COMMENTS ARE JERMAINE AUDIENCE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE REMAIN QUIET.
I HOPE MY COMMENTS ARE JERMAINE TO THE TOPIC, MR. CHALIN, BUT JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU CAUTIONED MR. ALANIS ABOUT, UM, MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT LIKE CHARACTER.
I CAN'T EXACTLY RECALL EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, BUT EXCUSE ME.
IN JANUARY TO THE BEST OF MY RECKONING, WE CHARGED MR. SMITH WITH ROUGHLY FIVE THINGS THAT THIS BOARD WANTED TO SEE.
WE WANTED TO SEE TRANSPORTATION ADDRESSED.
MR. LANDIS CALLED, HE, HE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE BUSES LEAN FRAUD.
AND, AND MR. LEWIS, I'M GONNA STOP YOU AND, AND THE REASON I'M STOPPING YOU IS THIS, IF YOU, IF YOU OPEN THE DOOR TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE POSITIVES REGARDING MR. SMITH'S PERFORMANCE, THEN IT ALSO INVITES POTENTIAL COMMENTS ABOUT THE NEGATIVE.
UM, I HAVE ENTERED INTO THE QUEUE AS WELL.
UM, AND WHAT I WILL SAY IS I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.
I KNOW MS. RESA AUGUSTINE TOLD US TO STOP APOLOGIZING.
UM, BUT I WANT TO APOLOGIZE AS WELL, UM, FOR SHARING THE, THE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE POSITIVES OF OUR INTERIM.
UM, BECAUSE IN MR. LIN'S WORDS, AND I TRUST MR. SHAMBLIN AS OUR GENERAL COUNSEL, THAT IF WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT A PERSON'S CHARACTER, UNLESS WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE SHOULD LIMIT OUR POSITIVES AS WELL.
UH, IN ALL FAIRNESS AND PROTOCOL.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION SINCE WE GOT ON THIS BOARD ABOUT PUSHING CANS DOWN THE ROAD.
AND RIGHT NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE ONE MEMBER WHO IS OUT.
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TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.UM, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THIS, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS SINCE JANUARY THAT SAID THAT WE WERE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH EVERY TIME.
AND I'M GONNA COME TO MY VICE PRESIDENT'S DEFENSE AS WELL.
EVERY TIME WE GOT READY TO PROCEED, THERE WAS ALWAYS A ROCK THROWN TO PUT A STOP IN THE DOOR.
SO WE GOT AN INTERIM IN JANUARY.
WE SAID THAT IN FEBRUARY, THAT WE WOULD ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY WAS.
WE BROUGHT THE NAME OF A CONSULTING FIRM TO ASSIST WITH THAT.
WE GOT PUSHBACK TO SAY, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH AN RFQ PROCESS.
THEN ONCE WE GOT INVOLVED IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE HIRING PROCESS, WE SAID WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
WE SHOULD NOT DO THIS WORK ON OUR OWN.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS TOOK ADDITIONAL TIME.
NOW, MIND YOU, THE SAME FOLKS THAT WERE TELLING US THIS, WERE THE SAME ONES THAT WERE SAYING WE RUNNING OUTTA TIME, BUT YOU KEEP THROWING ROCKS.
SO NOW HERE WE ARE, TODAY IS JULY 18TH.
WE SHOULD HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT CHOSEN BY JULY 23RD.
WE HAD A GROUP OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO SELECTED THE THREE FINALISTS.
AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE FINALISTS WITHDREW.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REALLY THE ARGUMENT HERE.
WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON? AND THEN WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT IS THAT MY VICE PRESIDENT IS SAYING THAT HE DISAGREES WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING HERE.
SO IF WE TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE, I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO TURN OFF YOUR PHONE.
MINE HAS BEEN OFF, BUT I, BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER TEXT MESSAGES THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN SEEING PHONES AND I ASKED POLITELY, AND I KNOW THAT I DON'T RUN ANYTHING, BUT, BUT THE ORGANIZATION OF A MEETING.
AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, I'M WATCHING MY COLLEAGUE OVER HERE WHO WATCHES EVERYTHING THAT I DO.
SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING HERE.
Y'ALL TELL ME, MR. GODDE TOLD ME YESTERDAY THAT I AM THE REASON FOR THIS S**T SHOW, SHOW.
IF I'M THE ONE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE S**T SHOW, WE WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS AND STOP PLAYING AROUND.
IT'S TIME FOR US TO CHOOSE SOMEBODY.
NOW WHO ARE WE GONNA CHOOSE? AND LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN WE SAY, IS 10 12, WE GONNA END AT 10 30? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SO I, I HOPE THAT ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL USE SENSIBLE COMMON SENSE AND WISDOM AND SAY THAT TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THIS TIME UNTIL WE COME UP WITH A DECISION THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE A DECISION AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON WITH OUR LIVES.
ALL OF US HAVE OTHER PARTS OF OUR LIVES.
SCHOOL BOARD BUSINESS AT 800 TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH IS NOT OUR FULLNESS OF OUR LIVES.
WE GOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLANS TO GO OUT OF TOWN.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET OTHER JOBS.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR ALL OF THIS.
WE JUST MEETING AND MEETING AND MEETING AND MEETING AND MEETING.
WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE 60,000 THAT WAS GIVEN TO US LAST YEAR.
IE CHARLES SAYS THE ONE 30 THAT'S OVER WITH PEOPLE GET PAID THAT FOR ONE TIME OUT OF THE YEAR.
WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE PENNIES THAT WE GET TO SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SERVE, BUT WE ARE WASTING VALUABLE TIME.
WE HAVE ALREADY ASKED, UH, MR. SHAMBLIN DURING THE WEEK,
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WHO CAN WE CHOOSE FROM? HE SAYS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE FROM ANY OF THE APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVE.SO LET'S CHOOSE AN APPLICANT AND KEEP MOVING.
I GAVE YOU A LOT OF MY TIME EARLIER.
SO AT THIS POINT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
I'M NOT WILLING TO, UH, TO START A NEW PROCESS, UM, ON THE FLY.
UH, WE HAD, UH, TWO FINALISTS AND NEITHER ONE ARE AVAILABLE NOW.
I THINK WE NEED TIME TO EXAMINE WHAT, UM, WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
UM, IF WE ARE GONNA CHOOSE FROM ONE OF THE APPLICANTS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL STILL AVAILABLE.
THEY HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT THE OTHER FINALISTS DID, SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED IN THE JOB OR NOT.
UM, AND, UH, I, I WOULD POINT OUT, UH, THERE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT A, A RUSH FOR THE SIX MONTH DEADLINE.
BUT, UH, COUNSEL DID POINT OUT THAT THE INTENT OF THAT SIX MONTH WAS SO THAT BOARDS WOULDN'T JUST KEEP HIRING, EXTENDING AN INTERIM, UH, JUST TO AVOID APPOINTING A SUPERINTENDENT.
AND THAT'S CLEARLY NOT WHAT OUR INTENT WAS HERE, BECAUSE WE ADVERTISED FOR A SUPERINTENDENT.
SO, UM, SO I, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THE, THE, UH, SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
I THINK IT'D BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO LOOK AT OUR OPTIONS, UM, AND MEET NEXT WEEK.
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
YEAH, I NEED TO MAKE A CORRECTION.
UM, I'M, I'M RESEARCHING AS I SPEAK TO YOU.
SO THE MINIMUM NOTICE IS 30 DAYS.
OUR CONTRACTS ARE WRITTEN WITH 90 DAYS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THE BOARD TO TRANSITION INTO A NEW SUPERINTENDENT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
SO STATE LAW SAYS A 30 DAY NOTICE, BUT WHEN YOU READ THE CONTRACTS WE GIVE OUR SUPERINTENDENTS, IT'S ALWAYS 90 DAYS.
AND THAT'S DUE TO ADVERTISEMENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH I KNOW MR. MARTIN HAS DISCUSSED.
UH, WHETHER WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DO THAT OR NOT.
BUT THAT'S THE REASON YOU WANNA SOLICIT APPLICATIONS.
YOU WANT TO, UM, REVIEW AN INTERVIEW AND THEN MAKE A SELECTION AND THAT GIVES YOU ENOUGH TIME TO DO SO.
SO 90 DAYS IS AN OPTION, BUT 30 DAYS IS THE REQUIREMENT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THE RECORD.
SO LET ME JUST SO TO BE CLEAR, WE COULD DO 30 DAY NOTICE AND WE CAN PUT THAT OUT THE FIRST DAY THAT WE DO IT.
OKAY, MR. RUSS? YEAH, PLEASE RESET MY TIME.
FIRST OF ALL, I WILL STATE CLEARLY I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF EXTENDING, UH, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THE, THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT WE HAVE OUR CURRENT INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT SERVING, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS BUCKING THE SYSTEM TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY FORCE A WORK AROUND AND FORCE US FURTHER INTO, UM, A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE ALSO AL ALREADY EXHAUSTED AND, AND FRANKLY MADE A HUGE MESS OF AS A BOARD.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT WE HAVE LOST TWO QUALITY CANDIDATES, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE WAY THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS, UH, AS A WHOLE, AS A BOARD, AS A COMMUNITY HAS INTERACTED WITH THEM, THEY HAVE DECIDED TO DROP OUT.
REMAIN QUIET EVERYONE, EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM 'CAUSE WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I ALSO CONTINUE TO BE DISAPPOINTED BY THE EXAMPLES THAT OUR COMMUNITY SEE WHEN WE FAIL TO UPHOLD DECORUM IN THIS ROOM.
UM, AND I THINK THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN TIMES WHEN I HAVE NOT DONE THAT AND I'VE BEEN SWIFTLY CALLED OUT AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT AND IMPROVED, UM, MY BEHAVIORS WHERE I NEEDED TO.
UM, I THINK IT IS UP TO ALL OF US TO BE LEADERS, TO NOT JUST THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, BUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES ABOUT HOW WE TALK ABOUT OTHERS, HOW WE TREAT OTHERS IN THIS ROOM, BUT ALSO IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WHEN WE'RE NOT GETTING WHAT WE WANT, THAT'S WHEN IT'S THE HARDEST.
BUT WE STILL HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO UPHOLD THE QUORUM IN THIS ROOM.
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UH, THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.UH, THIS, UH, WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
UM, I SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE MARTIN'S ASSERTION THAT WE NEED.
UH, LOOK, WE, WE FAILED TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S ON THIS BOARD.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS INTERESTED IN PRETENDING LIKE WE'RE GONNA MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT ON A CANDIDATE THAT FIVE PEOPLE HAVE ALL REJECTED.
YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BROWBEAT IT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SIT AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN HOUR AND A HALF OF PUBLIC COMMENT THAT'S GONNA CHANGE PEOPLE'S MINDS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN MONTHS TO DECIDE.
SO RATHER THAN WASTE THE PUBLIC'S TIME AND THIS BOARD'S TIME, I THINK WE NEED TO CONVENE ON OR BEFORE THE 23RD, FRANKLY.
AND IT'S UP TO OUR BOARD TO, TO SHOW UP AND DO THEIR JOB AND NOT BE, UH, IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR EVERY MEETING AND MADE TIME AND MADE SURE THAT I DIDN'T TRAVEL AROUND THE TIME THAT THIS PROCESS TOOK PLACE.
AND I THINK EVERY BOARD MEMBER HAS THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
I CAN'T HOLD IT AGAINST ANYBODY FOR MAKING PLANS AFTER WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE MADE A DECISION.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ANY DECISION.
THAT PUTS US IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
BUT I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE INFORMATION OR A PLAN.
I MEAN, FRANKLY, IT'S LAUGHABLE THAT WE'RE SITTING UP HERE TRYING TO CONCOCT SOME PIE IN THE SKY IDEA OF HOW TO, YOU KNOW, JUST THROW THE LAW OUT THE WINDOW TO MAKE IT FIT IN THE BOX THAT WE WANT.
WE DON'T HAVE OPTIONS BECAUSE WE RAN 'EM OFF.
SO, GREAT JOB TO ALL OF US FOR WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED HERE.
WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY.
AND WHO SHOWS UP IS WHO'S GONNA MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? THIS IS YOU, YOU ALREADY HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ALL MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE TUESDAY? I I'M, I'M JUST ASKING.
NO, SO I WILL NOT BE HERE TUESDAY, BUT I'LL ALSO SAY THAT WHEN WE WERE HAVING COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS, WE MOVED THE DATES BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE GONNA BE OUT OF TOWN.
NO, THAT'S I SAYING THIS IS AN YOU.
NO, NO, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE A MEETING WITHOUT YOU.
I JUST OFF THE RECORD THOUGH, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE A MEETING WITH, WITHOUT.
IS THAT NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT'S NOT TOWARDS YOU, MIKE, BUT NOW TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A MEETING WITH PEOPLE.
BUT WHEN WE, WE DID COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS.
I KNOW WE MOVED DATES SPECIFICALLY 'CAUSE SOME BOARD MEMBERS SAID THEY COULD NOT MAKE IT.
'CAUSE I WON'T VOTE FOR ANYTHING WHERE YOU CAN'T BE HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO ECHO MOST OF WHAT, OR JUST ABOUT ALL OF WHAT MR. RUSS JUST SAID.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
UH, I, I WOULD MUCH RATHER WAIT AND GO TO THURSDAY WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME SOLID LEGAL FOOTING IF WE ARE OUTSIDE THE LAW AT THAT POINT.
WE'VE BEEN OUTSIDE THE LAW FOR TWO DAYS.
IT'S NOT LIKE, AND, AND PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE LAW.
AND I CANNOT SEE ANY KIND OF DAMAGES OR SOMETHING.
THEY CAN AND THEY, THEY CAN FILE SUIT RECOGNIZING THAT THE ONLY THING THEY'RE ACCOMPLISHING IS SPENDING THE KIDS' MONEY BECAUSE IT WILL DO SO.
WITH THAT, I, I WILL OPPOSE THE MOTION.
I ALSO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, AS I SIT BACK HERE AND THINK, AND MANY, MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE TEACHERS.
SOME OF THE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD ARE TEACHERS.
HOW WOULD THE DECORUM AND THE ACTIONS LOOK TO YOUR STUDENTS IF THEY HAD A VIDEO CAMERA OF YOU DOING THIS? THE WAY WE'VE BEEN ACTING, WE AS A WHOLE BOARD, ALL OF US, QUIET EVERYONE, ALL OF US.
WE ARE SETTING A HORRIBLE EXAMPLE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, OKAY? THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS SAID THAT I, ABOUT ME THAT I THINK IS FACTUALLY WRONG.
BUT I'M NOT GONNA STOP AND GO THROUGH THEM.
BUT WHEN WE START CALLING OUT FROM THE AUDIENCE, CALLING US OUT BY NAME AND FROM THE BOARD, CALLING EACH OTHER OUT BY NAME, AND WE'RE SITTING HERE SAYING WE NEED UNITY AND WE NEED TO
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COME TOGETHER FOR THE DISTRICT TO MOVE THE DISTRICT FORWARD.HOW HYPOCRITICAL CAN WE BE? WE NEED TO STOP.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER IN THE EYE AND SAY, I MAY NOT AGREE WITH YOU, BUT WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THIS TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME COMPROMISE.
IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME HARD WORK.
IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME, PUTTING FEELINGS ASIDE, IT'S GONNA TAKE PUTTING EMOTIONS ASIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THE KIDS AND WE'RE NOT SERVING THE KIDS RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S ON ALL OF US, ALL OF US HERE AT THIS DIOCESE.
ALL OF YOU OUT THERE IN THE ROOM WHO ARE SITTING THERE CAMPAIGNING FOR ONE PERSON OR ANOTHER AND AND DOING ALL THE THINGS.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, I'M GONNA BE, I'M GONNA BE REALLY BLUNT.
I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT COULD POSSIBLY STILL BE IN THIS PROCESS AND LETTING THIS GO ON BECAUSE THAT IS NOT TEARING THE CITY APART AND TEARING THE COMMUNITY APART AND TEARING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT APART IS NOT A GOOD THING EITHER.
SO I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING? WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME COMPROMISES.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THIS THING WORK.
SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, WE WILL NOW TURN TO COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC AGAIN.
IF THERE ARE ANY OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO DESIRE TO EXTEND THE TIME WE'RE AT 10 25.
ALRIGHT, SO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT COMES FROM EUREKA GASTON.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.
FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ARTICLE THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS, MARTIN BALLOU RUST AND SOLE ADDRESSED CONCERNING THEIR DECISION NOT TO INCLUDE ADAM SMITH AS A FINALIST FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT POSITION.
IN MY OPINION, THE ARTICLE WAS UNPROFESSIONAL, BACKSTABBING, AND REVEALED YOUR TRUE CHARACTER.
YOU CHOSE TO DEMEAN MR. SMITH, MR. SMITH'S CHARACTER AND HIS ABILITY TO HOLD A POSITION WHICH HE HAS HELD IN THE INTERIM ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS WHEN THE BOYS CHARGED FOR A SUPERINTENDENT FAIL, THIS BOARD AGREED TO APPOINT MR. SMITH WHEN YOU WERE IN DIRE STRAITS TO SAVE YOUR REPUTATION, BUT STILL CHOSE TO DEMEAN HIS ABILITIES.
ACCORDING TO THE LAST FINALIST THAT, UM, WITHDREW HER APPLICATION, HER REASON FOR WITHDRAW WITHDRAWING HER APPLICATION WAS BECAUSE HER GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE SERVICES TO ALL THE CHILDREN IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
SO HOW IS IT THAT THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD GOAL IS NOT TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE SERVICES FOR ALL THE STUDENTS IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH? THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS? NOW I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE FOUR O'CLOCK TODAY.
YOU, YOU CHANGED AROUND THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.
SO YOU CAN WAIT TILL DARK WHERE EVERYBODY COULD HAVE GONE HOME.
IF YOU ALL WERE GONNA COME BACK IN HERE AND SAY YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO VOTE, LET'S PUT IT TO NEXT WEEK.
WE COULD HAVE DID THAT EARLY IN THE DAY.
SO WHILE YOU ALL ARE SITTING HERE, MR. MARTIN, YOU SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO EXTEND THIS.
OKAY, WELL, WILL SOMEBODY UP HERE MAKE A MOTION TO, FOR, UH, MR. ADAM SMITH TO BE NOMINATED FOR THE PRESIDENT TO, FOR THE PERMANENT SUPERINTENDENT POSITION? AND THEN Y'ALL VOTE MORE ON THAT AND GET US TO TALK ABOUT IT.
'CAUSE YOU WASTED ALL THIS TIME FOR NOTHING.
YOU HAVE SPENT MONEY SINCE THIS BEEN GOING ON SINCE JANUARY.
YOU SPENT, YOU SPENT MONEY AFTER MONEY, AFTER MONEY AND TIME FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL DIDN'T INTEND TO DO ANYWAY.
NOW, LIKE YOU SAID, MS. LEWIS, YOU ALL NEED TO DO YOUR JOB.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF YOU, IF, IF MR. SMITH KNOW ENOUGH TO BE THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT, WHY HE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO BE THE PERMANENT SUPERINTENDENT.
WHY IS THAT? NOW WE, WE ARE HERE TODAY.
SOMEBODY SAY YOU CAN GO TO THE OLD APPLICATION FOR WHOEVER APPLIED.
DID MR. SMITH APPLY? I THINK HE DID.
SO WHY IS, WHY ARE YOU ALL AGAINST ALLOWING HIM TO BE NOMINATED FOR THIS POSITION PERMANENTLY? THANK YOU.
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CONSIDERING IT IS 10 28 AND I KNOW THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TWO MINUTES LEFT.OKAY, MS. MS. STEWART POINT OF, UM, ORDER, I WOULD, UM, DO A MOTION TO EX UH, SUSPEND THE RULES TO COMPLETE, UM, THE PROCESS.
SECOND, IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MS. STEWART AND SECONDED BY MS. LANIS THAT WE WOULD SUSPEND THE RULES, UH, TO FULFILL THE PROCESS OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM E ONE, SELECTION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.
MR. SHAMBLIN, HAVE WE STATED THAT ACCURATELY? OKAY.
UM, SEEING THAT IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY, MR. DORSEY VOTE.
SO SEEING NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC BACK TO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
AND THIS IS ON EXTENDING THE TIME TO FULFILL ITEM E ONE.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW CAST A VOTE.
UH, I HAD A PREPARED STATEMENT, BUT THIS, THIS IS CRAZY.
UM, THIS, AND, AND I'M SPEAKING, I'M SPEAKING TO THE BOARD AS WELL AS MORE SO TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS TALK TO THE DON'T SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
YOU DON'T SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
UH, I WON'T SPEAK TO SUPPORT ANY PARTICULAR CANDIDATE, BUT YOU HAVE DEFINITELY PLAYED IN EVERY CANDIDATE'S FACE.
UH, SOMEONE HAD A PROBLEM, UH, WITH GIVING THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY WANT.
IS THAT NOT WHAT REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT IS? IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR? THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR, MR. GODDA.
YOU DON'T REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.
OKAY? SO WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK THE ASK OR ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE THAT.
UH, OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT, UH, THE EXAMPLES WE'VE SET FOR STUDENTS.
WHEN THIS PROCESS ENDS UP LIKE THIS, THIS IS THE WAY YOU HAVE TO RESPOND.
LISTEN TO YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. UH, SOMEONE MENTIONED, UH, THIS MATTER IS DIVIDING THIS CITY.
THIS CITY HAS BEEN DIVIDED BEFORE ANY OF US.
WE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THIS PRO THIS, THIS MATTER IS NOT THE ROOT OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN.
UM, THE CANDIDATES YOU SELECTED, THEY'VE ALL DROPPED OUT.
SO TO ME, AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY WITH SEVEN CHILDREN WHO HAVE GONE AT SOME POINT THROUGH THIS SYSTEM, THAT TELLS ME YOU ALL ARE INEFFECTIVE AND INEFFICIENT.
SOME OF YOU NEED TO BE COMPANY MEN AS AS, AS THE LETTER STATED AND DO THE RIGHT THING AND SIT THIS OUT.
AGAIN, MR. CARL HERRICK, MR. GRIFFIN RIVERS, AND MS. UH, FREYA RIVERS.
IF I SAID THAT CORRECTLY, MS. RIVERS AND MR. RIVERS.
UM, QUESTION, DO WE EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES? YES.
A FEW WEEKS AGO, I STOOD BEFORE THIS BOARD REPRESENTING 28 AFRICAN
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AMERICAN STUDENTS WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES 60 YEARS AGO TO IMPROVE THE EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH SCHOOL SYSTEM.NOW WE FIND THAT THE SACRIFICES WE MADE WERE IN VAIN BECAUSE THE SYSTEM HAS NOT IMPROVED.
IT IS STILL SEGREGATED WITH A BLACK POP STUDENT POPULATION OF 85 PLUS PERCENT.
YET THERE ARE FIVE WHITES ON A NINE MEMBER BOARD CONTROLLING THIS BLACK POPULATION OF STUDENTS.
WHO SHOULD YOU REPRESENT? THE STUDENTS, PARENTS AND COMMUNITY OF THE STUDENTS THAT ATTEND SCHOOLS IN THIS DISTRICT.
YOUR WHITE CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICTS 1, 6, 7, 8, AND NINE ARE IN PRIVATE AND CHARTER SCHOOLS, NOT EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH AND ST.
YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL OUT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN YOU CAN FINANCE YOUR OWN DISTRICT AND MAYBE RULE OVER WHITE CHILDREN.
BUT YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN RUN OUR SCHOOLS WHO KNOWS OUR STUDENTS BETTER THAN US.
WE DO NOT NEED AN OVERSEER, A MASTER, OR A PATERNALISTIC MANAGER.
WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS.
WHY DO WE NEED YOU TO TELL US WHAT AND HOW TO THINK AND WHO TO SELECT TO BE OVER OUR CHILDREN? IF YOU WERE TRULY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STUDENTS IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH, THEN YOU WOULD LISTEN TO YOUR TEACHERS, YOUR PARENTS, YOUR COMMUNITY, AND YOUR STUDENTS.
THEY HAVE VOICED THEIR OPINION ON WHO THEY WANT AS SUPERINTENDENT.
YOU HAVE SPENT MONTHS SEARCHING.
YOU HAD A SEARCH COMMITTEE TO NO AVAIL BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR CHOICE.
EVEN THOUGH ADAM SMITH MAY NOT BE YOUR CHOICE, BUT YOUR WHITE STUDENTS ARE NOT IN THIS SYSTEM.
WHEN THERE'S A RACIAL SPLIT LIKE THIS, IT IS CALLED RACISM.
I REALIZE THAT MOST OF YOU WILL SAY THAT YOU ARE NOT RACIST.
BUT THIS TYPE OF, WHEN THIS TYPE OF SPLIT OCCURS, THERE'S NO OTHER NAME FOR IT.
IT'S DISTORTION, OMISSION, STEREOTYPE, SUPERIORITY, INFERIORITY AND DENIAL.
AND I'M JUST LEAVING OUT HATRED AS ONE OF THE DEFINERS BECAUSE I HOPE THAT THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
THAT THE REASON YOU'RE ACTING THE WAY YOU DO IS BECAUSE IT'S A DENIAL OF THE FACTS AND CULTURAL BRAINWASHING.
AND ANYTIME YOU NEED HELP WITH THAT, I'M A GREAT RESOURCE ON RACISM AND DEFINING IT.
TO HAVE A PERSON NOMINATED FOR A COMMITTEE TO INTERVIEW THE SUPERINTENDENT WHO'S A MEMBER OF MOMS OF LIBERTY, MR. RUS, THOSE VIEWS DO NOT NEED TO BE EXPRESSED AS AN APPOINTEE ON A COMMITTEE.
MOMS FOR LIBERTY IS A FAR RIGHT ORGANIZATION THAT ENGAGES IN ANTIT STUDENT INCLUSION ACTIVITIES.
HOW CAN YOU BE ANTIT STUDENT INCLUSION WHEN YOUR POPULATION IS BLACK? THOSE FAR RIGHT VIEWS THAT THEY HAVE INCLUDE ACCEPTANCE AND PROMOTION OF THE PROUD BOYS.
HITLER, RUSH LIMBAUGH, BRIGHT BARTH EVANGEL EVANGELICAL BRAINWASHING BOOK BANNING HATRED OF L-G-B-T-Q STUDENTS, AMERICAN HISTORY AND AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY.
AND IT ALL INCLUDES AN ADVANCE OF ANTIT STUDENT INCLUSION AGENDA AND CURRICULA.
IT INCLUDES THE DESTRUCTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
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ANTI-GOVERNMENT, THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER LAW CENTER BRANDED MOMS FOR LIBERTY AS AN EXTREMIST ORGANIZATION.IT IS ANTI INTELLIGENCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT WOKE PEOPLE.
AND THAT MEANS YOU'RE INTELLIGENT IF YOU WOKE.
IT IS ANTI MEDICAL INFORMATION.
IT IS ANTI ANYTHING THAT IS NOT CHRISTIAN.
OKAY, SO I'M ASKING YOU NOT TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIOUS, BUT TO VOTE FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE STUDENTS IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARENTS.
AND LET ME AGAIN REMIND YOU, WE ARE BLACK IN EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
UM, I'M AN EBR TEACHER AND PARENT OF AN EBR STUDENT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO BE A LITTLE LESS IN GERMANE FOR JUST A MOMENT.
UM, AND BRIEFLY THANK MS. POWELL LEWIS FOR BEING UNAFRAID TO VOICE OPENLY WHAT MANY OF US ALREADY EITHER ASSUMED OR KNEW WAS HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, UM, BUT IF I HAVE TO HEAR MR. MARTIN TELL US ONE MORE TIME THAT HE'S GONNA BE DOING WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND IGNORE WHAT HIS CONSTITUENTS WANTS HIM TO DO, I MIGHT JUST VOMIT RIGHT HERE.
THE ARROGANCE AND AUDACITY TO SAY THAT TO THIS COMMUNITY OVER AND OVER SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET ANYONE UP OFF THEIR SEATS TO SIGN HIS RECALL PETITION.
BY NOW, WE HAVE ALL FIGURED OUT THAT SOME OF YOU SEEM TO LISTEN OR SEEM TO REFUSE TO LISTEN TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE PULLING YOUR STRENGTHS.
I HAVE SOME OTHER IDEAS ON WHO YOU MIGHT CONSIDERING LISTENING TO.
HOW ABOUT LISTENING TO YOURSELVES? YOU SAID RESPECTING SOMEONE'S CHARACTER, CONDUCT AND LONGEVITY IS NOT THE SAME THING AS BELIEVING THAT PERSON IS THE LEADER WE NEED.
WHAT KIND OF NONSENSE IS THAT? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED IN A LEADER.
SOMEONE WITH CHARACTER, SOMEONE WHO CONDUCTS THEMSELVES PROFESSIONALLY.
SOMEONE WHO HAS PROVEN THAT THEY WILL STICK WITH US WHEN THINGS ARE HARD AND MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS.
AND Y'ALL SAID WE DON'T NEED THAT.
IF YOU REALLY LISTEN TO YOURSELF, YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST LAME THING THAT YOU HAVE ALL COME UP WITH IN QUITE SOME TIME.
AND THAT'S REALLY SAYING SOMETHING.
CONSIDERING THIS WEEK, MAYBE YOU WILL LISTEN TO THE FIRST CANDIDATE WHO SNAPPED UP ANOTHER JOB IN FAVOR OF WORKING WITH THIS BOARD.
PERHAPS YOU WILL LISTEN TO MR. JAMES, WHO OPTED TO KEEP HIS CURRENT JOB OVER DEALING WITH THE HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT CREATED HERE.
MAYBE YOU'LL LISTEN TO MS. ZAYA.
SHE SAID WHAT SHOULD MATTER MOST IS CREATING A DISTRICT CULTURE THAT DRIVES LIFE-CHANGING EQUITABLE OUTCOMES FOR THE CITY'S CHILDREN.
TRAGICALLY, THIS IS NOT THE CURRENT FOCUS.
AND SHE COULD HAVE CONTINUED BY SAYING NOT THE CURRENT FOCUS OF THIS BOARD, BUT SHE HAS A LITTLE CLASS.
SHE WENT ON TO SAY THAT SHE PRAYS THAT THE BOARD CAN ACT RESPONSIBLY, ETHICALLY, EQUITABLY, AND CENTER THE INTEREST OF THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
THIS COMMUNITY WANTS MR. SMITH.
NOT BECAUSE HE MAKES US FEEL COMFORTABLE, BUT BECAUSE HE'S THE RIGHT MAN TO LEAD AND UNITE THIS DISTRICT.
NEXT WE HAVE MS. KATRINA ROBERTSON.
SHE SAID THAT SHE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
SHE SAYS THAT IT'S TIME OUT ON MAKING DECISIONS.
UM, BASED ON POLITICS, OUR SCHOOLS ARE FAILING AND WE DESPERATELY NEED CHANGE.
UH, WE NEED CHANGE, NOT PROBLEMS. NEXT WE HAVE MR. WASHINGTON.
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GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT AND BOARD MEMBERS.I ALMOST WANT TO SAY I, THE YOUNG LADY WHO JUST SPOKE WAS SO CLEAR AND PRECISE.
I WAS SITTING THERE LIKE, SHE TOOK EVERYTHING I WANTED TO SAY.
BUT AT THE LAST TIME I WAS AT THIS MEETING, SOME THINGS WERE SAID ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO DO.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHO WE WANT FOR SUPERINTENDENT, THEN DON'T WASTE MY TIME HAVING A MEETING IN THE PUBLIC TO GET MY OPINION.
'CAUSE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IF YOUR MIND IS ALREADY MADE UP THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE THIS COMMUNITY WHO IS BEST FOR THEM, THEN WHY PUT ON THE SHOW WHY.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHO IN THE HELL YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ANYWAY, BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I SAW SPOKE OF THIS BOY WERE WHITE.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHITE GUYS WHO HAVE A PROBLEM.
'CAUSE MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO I HEAR LAST WEEK WERE WHITE SPEAKING FOR MR. SMITH.
AND ONE, YOU SAID, THE MOST ASININE THING I'VE EVER SAID IN MY LIFE AS A HISTORY TEACHER, THIS PLANTATION MENTALITY.
SOME OF YOU HAVE THE MASTER SLAVE MENTALITY.
SOME OF YOU HAVE ONE OF YOU SAID LAST WEEK AND YOU SAID YOU DON'T CALL BOARD MEMBER NAMES, SO I WON'T.
BUT ONE OF YOU SAID, THE ONLY REASON WHY ALL OF YOU ALL ARE HERE SPEAKING FOR MR. SMITH IS BECAUSE HE GONNA BE NICE TO YOU ALL BECAUSE YOU KNOW HIM.
BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU, YOU NEED TO READ SOME RESEARCH ABOUT EMPLOYEE AND VISOR RELATIONSHIP.
ALL RESEARCH SAYS, IF I RESPECT YOU, I'LL BUST MY BUTT FOR YOU.
I'M GONNA, I'LL RUN THROUGH THAT WALL FOR YOU.
BUT WHEN I DON'T RESPECT YOU AND YOU TREAT ME LIKE DIRT, YOU CAN HAVE A HIGH TURNOVER RATE.
THE BEST PRINCIPLES I EVER HAD WERE THOSE MANY AND LADIES WHO RESPECTED ME AND TREATED ME LIKE I WAS AN ADULT COURSE THIS TIME IS OUT.
BECAUSE SEE, MY DAUGHTERS, MY GENERATION OF KIDS.
IF YOU ALL TALK TO THEM THE WAY YOU TALK TO US, THEY GONE.
MY DAUGHTERS DON'T STAY NOWHERE.
BUT THEY SUPERVISOR DON'T RESPECT THEM.
AND THEY GOT, THANK GOD THEY GOT IN MEDICAL, THEY THE MEDICAL FIELD.
YOU GUYS NEED TO CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE.
YOU TALKING ABOUT YOUR TURNOVER RATE.
THIS THE OSCAR YOU ARE HAVING HERE, ALL THESE PEOPLE LEAVING AND DON'T, YOU KNOW, ALSO, AIN'T NOBODY GONNA BREAK NO CONTRACT AND COME WORK FOR YOU AFTER SCHOOL START.
MISS MATTHEW, Y'ALL HAVE THREE JOBS.
AND THIS BOARD IS CHARGED WITH THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY.
I KNOW ONE BOARD MEMBER WHO SAID ON RECORD THAT THE FIDUCIARY RESPON, I'M, I'M LOOKING THIS WAY, BUT I'M NOT TALKING TO TO Y'ALL.
IT'S KIND OF ON A DIFFERENT SIDE.
SAID ON RECORD THAT THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY WAS NOT THIS BOARD'S JOB, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY, IN FACT THIS BOARD'S JOB.
SO ACTUALLY KNOWINGLY DOING SOMETHING TO GET SUED IS NOT A GOOD LOOK.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR MOTION AND, AND TRYING TO, TO, TO GET THAT GOING.
UM, ALSO TO THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO SAID THAT THIS HAS COMPLETELY DIVIDED EVERYBODY.
I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZING WORK IS A HARD WORK.
OKAY? THIS HAS UNITED INDIVIDUAL ACTIVISTS.
THIS HAS GOTTEN LAE FEDERATION, NAACP, EVERY STEP UP.
WE ARE ALL ON BOARD TOGETHER WORKING.
WE ARE COMPLETELY UNITED IN THIS WORK TOGETHER.
SO WE HAVE COME TOGETHER 100% AS A COMMUNITY WORKING, MOVING THE GOAL FORWARD.
SO MY PEOPLE ARE TOGETHER TODAY.
UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER SAID THAT THE WAY THAT
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THE, THE CANDIDATES WERE TREATED BY THE COMMUNITY, WHICH REALLY CONFUSES ME BECAUSE I HAD ONE CANDIDATE FLAT OUT TELL ME, THIS BOARD SHOULD HIRE MR. SMITH.THAT WAS BEFORE THEY DROPPED OUT.
UM, UM, I PERSONALLY HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH MESSIAS.
I I, I STILL HAVE TEXT CONVERSATIONS WITH MS. MESSIAS.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT OTHER, UH, ADVOCATES HAVE HAD GREAT CONVOS WITH SEVERAL OF THE OTHER, UM, CANDIDATES.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHO IS TREATING THE CANDIDATES POORLY OTHER THAN THE MISCOMMUNICATION COMING FROM THIS BOARD BECAUSE MAYBE APPLICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WEREN'T REALLY LOOKED AT AT THE OTHER CANDIDATES OTHER THAN WHAT WAS REALLY BEING DONE.
BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE SITUATION IN FRONT OF US NOW.
WE'VE GOT UNTIL WEDNESDAY TO PUT SOMEBODY IN PLACE.
UNLESS Y'ALL ARE JUST COUNTING ON KATE BRUMLEY APPOINTING SOMEBODY.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF DOING ANYTHING AT ALL.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SITTING HERE.
BECAUSE THE, WHERE YOU'RE STANDING RIGHT NOW, SOMEBODY DOES STILL HAVE A CANDIDATE.
WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WE'RE IN A CHECKMATE POSITION.
I'M SORRY THAT ALL OF Y'ALLS BOWED OUT.
I'M SORRY YOU LOST, BUT YOU DID.
YOU APPOINTED MR. SMITH AS INTERIM.
HE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, DID EVERYTHING THAT THIS BOARD THROUGH A COLLECTIVE VOTE ASKED HIM TO DO.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANY OF YOU MIGHT'VE WANTED HIM TO DO OR ASKED HIM TO DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANY BOARD ACTION THAT HE DIDN'T ABIDE BY.
YOU SET UP A PROCESS THAT RESULTED IN 17 APPLICANTS ALL PRESUMABLY QUALIFIED.
AND 13 OF THOSE ARE, UH, PRESUMABLY STILL IN THE RUNNING.
I WOULD IMAGINE THE OTHERS ARE.
HOWEVER, YOU NEED TO SETTLE THIS BECAUSE IT'S A HORRIBLE EXAMPLE TO TELL 40,000 STUDENTS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE POWERFUL, IT'S OKAY IF WE BREAK THE LAW, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOMEBODY SUE US JUST TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ACTUAL CONSEQUENCES FOR BREAKING THE LAW.
SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS SETTLE THIS TONIGHT.
NOT MONDAY, NOT TUESDAY, NOT WEDNESDAY.
MS. SOLE COULD HAVE CHANGED HER PLANS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE EXPECTING YOU TO DO YOUR JOB TONIGHT.
SO WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS ABANDON THESE SUBSTITUTE MOTIONS.
YOU SHOULD ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO NOMINATE ANY OF THE REMAINING 13 FOLKS.
I SUSPECT AT LEAST ONE OF YOU WILL NOMINATE MR. SMITH.
IF NOBODY ELSE GETS NOMINATIONS, THEN YOU SHOULD ALL APPOINT MR. SMITH BY ACCLIMATION.
YOU HAD YOUR SHOP TO INSTALL SOMEBODY THAT THE BATON ROUGE ALLIANCE FOR STUDENTS TOLD YOU TO INSTALL.
YOU HAD YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO FIND SOMEBODY WITH A CHARTER BACKGROUND THAT WOULD BREAK UP THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, WHICH MAY ACTUALLY BE THE INTENTION FOR A COUPLE OF YOU.
BUT SCHOOL STARTS IN A FEW WEEKS.
YOU HAVE A DUTY TO PUT SOMEBODY IN PLACE, NOT AS A LAME DUCK.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THAT IF YOU TOOK YOUR KID TO THEIR FIRST DAY OF KINDERGARTEN? THE KINDERGARTEN TEACHER SAID, HI, I'M HAPPY TO MEET YOU.
I'LL BE HERE UNTIL THEY CAN FIND SOMEBODY BETTER
GIVE HIM A REASONABLE LENGTH AND BY MONDAY HAVE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA BY WHICH YOU WILL ACTUALLY EVALUATE HIM.
NARCISS HAD IS YOU NEVER SET OBJECTIVE PERFORMANCE CRITERIA AND HE DID WHATEVER HE WANTED TO.
DID YOU MAKE ANY, UH, DEMANDS BY BOARD ACTION TO MR. SMITH THAT HE DIDN'T DO? NO, THAT'S ON YOU.
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READ TWO OR THREE NAMES OUT SO PEOPLE CAN BE ON? SURE.SO, UM, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, MS. HARMON, UM, MS. HARMON, THEN PASTOR DALE FLOWERS, AND THEN MS. NYMAN.
UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS MARIA HARMON, A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT SIX.
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF STEPUP, LOUISIANA AND ALSO THE NAACP.
I SERVE AS THE EDUCATION CHAIR.
UM, ON BEHALF OF STEP UP 'CAUSE WE DID TAKE A POSITION.
WE DO SUPPORT THE APPOINTMENT OF ADAM SMITH.
UM, QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S JUST DISAPPOINTING TO WATCH THE DISCOURSE OF HOW THIS BOARD HAS OPERATED SINCE NOVEMBER OF 2023, TO BE HONEST.
UM, LETTING THIS THE PROCESS GET TO THIS POINT IS GROSSLY EGREGIOUS.
UM, TO EVEN THINK THAT WE SHOULD WAIT TILL THE 23RD OR 24TH JUST 'CAUSE WE HAVE LIKE A COUPLE OF DAYS OUT OF BEING IN COMPLIANCE, HONESTLY, THAT'S QUINTESSENTIAL TO THE MINDSET OF WHITE PRIVILEGE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT USED TO BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THE LAW LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S THE DISCONNECT THAT I'M SPEAKING TO.
AND I JUST HOPE THAT THERE'S SOME UNITY THAT CAN BE REACHED ACROSS THIS BOARD BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CHILDREN ARE RELYING ON YOUR LEADERSHIP TO MOVE THIS DISTRICT.
THE WAY IT NEEDS TO GO, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE NAACP IS JUST GROSSLY EGREGIOUS TO WITNESS THE ACTIONS OF SOME OF THESE BOARD MEMBERS IN REGARDS TO THE ALIGNMENT WITH RIGHT WING EXTREMIST ORGANIZATIONS THAT IS ANTI-BLACK.
AND TO HAVE THE NERVE TO SIT ON THE BOARD THAT SERVES A POPULATION OF OVER 30,000 STUDENTS THAT GO TO SCHOOL HERE IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GROSSLY EGREGIOUS.
UM, IT'S A BIG REASON WHY THE NAACP WANTS MR. RUST OFF OF THE BRETT COMMISSION.
UH, WE NEED A BETTER SUITED BOARD MEMBER TO REPRESENT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD ON THAT COMMISSION, TO BE HONEST.
BUT BACK TO THE POINT OF THE SUPERINTENDENT, THIS ALL JUST SPEAKS TO THE LEADERSHIP THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ESPOUSED.
AND IT'S JUST, AGAIN, GROSSLY EGREGIOUS TO WITNESS.
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE GAPS IN LEADERSHIP AND INSTABILITY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UPSET THAT THEIR CANDIDATES DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S THE DYSFUNCTION OF THIS BOARD.
THE CANDIDATES CLEARLY SEEN WHO THEIR CHOICE WAS AND THEY HAD TO BE HONEST ABOUT IT.
ONE OF THEM EVEN TAKE THE, UH, TOOK THE NOTION TO EVEN SIT DOWN WITH MR. SMITH.
MS. ZAYA DID THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS OUT OF RESPECT AND SHE SEEN WHAT WAS GOING ON AGAIN, WHICH IS WHY I LIKE, UH, MS. ZAYAS TO THE, TO THE EXTENT OF HER UNDERSTANDING HOW COMMUNITY WORKS AND HER TAKING THAT INITIATIVE SAID A LOT.
I'M GONNA SIT DOWN WITH MR. SMITH AND TALK WITH HIM.
THAT IS ONE THING THAT ALWAYS SAT WITH ME.
BUT ON BEHALF OF STEP UP, WE STRONGLY SUPPORT ADAM SMITH.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT 90 DAYS IS SUFFICIENT TO MAKE A DECISION.
AGAIN, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE WELFARE OF OUR CHILDREN.
AUGUST 8TH IS COMING, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
JULY 23RD IS COMING WHETHER WE LIKE, THANK YOU, NORMAN.
PLEASE ESTABLISH A CONTRACT THAT HAS SOME LONGEVITY.
LOOK AT A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY ORGANIZE YOURSELVES AND ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION THAT'S MORE ADEQUATE WITH ENOUGH TIME.
UH, MADAM PRESIDENT, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, NICE SHIRT, COACH LEWIS.
AND, UH, I WANT TO SAY A NICE HOODIE MR. LANDIS.
WHEN YOU GUYS WERE SEATED, I SAID TO YOU THEN THAT YOU CAN EITHER CONTINUE TO DESTROY THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM OR YOU CAN TURN IT AROUND AND DO THAT, WHICH IS BEST FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS.
I'M WATCHING YOU CONTINUE DOWN THE SAME ROAD THAT OTHER BOARDS WERE WALKING ON BEFORE YOU GUYS WERE SEATED TO THOSE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO WROTE THE LETTER.
I WOULD SAY, NOT ONLY WOULD YOU READ THAT LETTER PUBLIC, BUT ALSO READ THE ARTICLE THAT WAS, UM, POSTED IN YESTERDAY'S ADVOCATE WHERE OUR PRESIDENT SPOKE TRUTH.
READ THEM BOTH FOR REPUBLICANS, WROTE
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A LETTER THAT DISREGARDS WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.YET REPUBLICAN SCHOOL BOARDS ALL OVER THIS NATION ARE LISTENING TO PARENTS AND TEACHERS AND THE COMMUNITY WHO IS SAYING TO THEM, WE DON'T WANT TRUE HISTORY TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS MYTHOLOGICAL HISTORY THAT IS TAUGHT.
TRI STUDENTS, YOU LISTEN OR THEY LISTEN WHEN THEY'RE ASKING THAT BOOKS BE BANNED, THEY'RE LISTENING WHEN THEY'RE AGAINST THE HEB, THE, THE THE LBG, Y'ALL.
Y'ALL GET ME WITH THE ACRONYMS, BUT THEY LISTEN.
BUT NOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING, WE WANT AN INDIVIDUAL TO RUN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, THESE REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING, WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT POWER.
WE DON'T THINK YOU DESERVE THAT POWER.
WE DON'T THINK YOU KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT.
ALL I'M SAYING TO YOU IS LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK MR. LUDA ALLUDED TO, UH, THIS GROUP OF POETS, MR. GODDE, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD OF THEM.
THEY HAD A STATEMENT AND IT WAS SIMPLY, MR. MARTIN GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT.
GOT TO GIVE THE PEOPLE, GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT.
AND THEY GO ON TO SAY, THE PEOPLE WANT BETTER EDUCATION.
THANK YOU, PASTOR VOICES HEARD THE PEOPLE WANT ADAM SMITH.
JUST GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT.
THEN MS. ROBINSON, THEN MS. PORTER.
UM, I'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR 12 YEARS HERE IN, UH, EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH.
AND, UM, I SIGNED, I WAS ONE OF MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO SIGNED A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF ADAM SMITH YEARS AGO.
I WAS THANKFUL WHEN HE WAS WILLING TO STEP UP TO SERVE AS INTERIM YET AGAIN.
HE WAS WILLING TO PUT HIS NAME AS AN APPLICANT AND I WOULD BE, UH, UH, VERY GRATEFUL IF HE WOULD BE STILL WILLING TO SERVE AT THIS POINT.
I, I COULD UNDERSTAND WHY HE MIGHT SAY YOU COULD, UH, WOULD REJECT EVEN THE OFFER OF A YEAR'S APPOINTMENT.
BUT HERE'S THE THING THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME SO MUCH IS THAT