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[ROLL CALL]
EVENING EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR TONIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE ROLL CALL DIRECTOR, HOLCOMB.
AND COMMISSIONER SCROGGS HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THANK YOU, SIR.AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 16TH MEETING? PROPERLY MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ADDISON, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, THE MINUTES HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT TO READ IN THE RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.
BEFORE, BEFORE HE DOES THAT, I NEED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
IN KEEPING WITH PAST PRACTICE, UM, EVERY ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT NEEDS FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES DUE TO LACK OF ATTENDANCE AND NO ONLY HAVING SIX MEMBERS HERE.
KEEPING WITH PAST PRACTICE APPLICANTS MAY REQUEST A DEFERRAL BUT MUST DO SO AT THEIR OPENING STATEMENT ON ITEMS BEING HEARD TONIGHT.
[RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS]
CHAIRMAN GRO, IF YOU DON'T MIND.RULES FOR CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING AND INTERESTED MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO, TO COMMENT ON AN ITEM FROM THIS AGENDA.
MAY COMMENT IN PERSON AT CITY HALL 2 2 2 ST.
LOUIS STREET, THIRD FLOOR ROOM 3 48.
DURING THE MEETING, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM SHOULD REFER TO A MEETING AGENDA AND COMPLETE NECESSARY INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING BY FILLING OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD INDICATING WHICH ITEM YOU WISH TO SPEAK AND PLACE IT IN THE DESIGNATED LOCATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
APPLICANT AND APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPOSAL WILL SPEAK FIRST FOR A TOTAL OR COMBINED PERIOD OF NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
PROPONENTS WILL SPEAK AND THEN THE OPPONENTS.
EACH SPEAKER WILL NOT BE ALLOWED MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
SPEAKERS ARE REQUESTED TO LIMIT THEIR REMARKS BY AVOIDING DUPLICATIONS IN THEIR PRESENTATIONS.
APPLICANT WILL BE ALLOWED A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
OPPONENTS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO REBUT ITEMS PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF WILL NOT HAVE TIME ALLOCATED FOR SPEAKING UNLESS THERE IS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AT THE MEETING WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
IN SUCH CASES, THE PROPOSAL WILL FOLLOW THE STANDARD PROCEDURE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VICE CHAIRMAN GRL.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.MR. BALDWIN CONSENT ITEMS FOR WITHDRAWAL.
ITEM 12 CS 1324, SE COOPER PROPERTY, CITY OF ST.
ITEM 13 S 5 24 UNIVERSITY CLUB 12 FILING CITY OF ST.
GEORGE, ITEM 14 S 6 24 UNIVERSITY CLUB 13 FILING CITY OF ST.
THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THE ST.
GEORGE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AT FIVE 30.
UH, CONSENT ITEMS FOR DEFERRAL.
ITEM 10, CUP 3 24, ANDERSON SHOOTING RANGE.
PROPOSED SHOOTING RANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF RIVER ROAD, WEST OF BENHUR ROAD.
DEFERRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GODDE TO NOVEMBER 18TH.
ITEM FOUR, CASE 46 24 55 5 AND SIX 15 EAST AIRPORT AVENUE TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LIGHT COMMERCIAL ONE LC ONE AND TRANSITION B ONE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL TWO LC TWO LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF EAST AIRPORT AVENUE NORTH OF GOODWOOD BOULEVARD.
ITEM FIVE, CASE 47 24 1 2 0 5 5 CORSI BOULEVARD TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE NO TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL NC LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CORSI BOULEVARD, WEST OF LO LAKE LAWRENCE DRIVE.
ITEM SIX, CASE 48 24 4 10 SOUTH 17TH STREET TO REZO.
PROPERTY FROM LAKE COMMERCIAL THREE, LC THREE TO COMMERCIAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, BAR AND LOUNGE, CB TWO LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH 17TH STREET, SOUTH OF PAINT, SOUTH OF SPAIN STREET.
5 53 TUSCALOOSA AVENUE TO REZO.
PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M1 TO LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, A 3.1 LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF TUSCALOOSA AVENUE, SOUTH OF NORTH STREET.
ITEM EIGHT P 2 0 0 PANDA EXPRESS.
BURBANK UNIVERSITY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
PROPOSED RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WESLEY DRIVE WEST OF BURBANK DRIVE.
ITEM NINE, PUT 2 0 0 7 BREW BURBANK UNIVERSITY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
PROPOSED RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BURBANK DRIVE SOUTH OF WESLEY DRIVE PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
ANYONE HERE FOR ITEMS 12, 13 AND 14? THOSE THREE ITEMS ARE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF ST.
THOSE THREE ITEMS WILL BE HEARD BY THE ST.
GEORGE PLANNING COMMISSION TONIGHT AT FIVE 30 UPSTAIRS ON THE NINTH FLOOR.
ALSO, DID WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT WAS PULLED
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FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CASE 49 24 55.5 5 3 TUSCALOOSA AVENUE REZONING REQUEST HAS BEEN PULLED.
THIS ITEM WILL BE HEARD ON THE REGULAR AGENDA ORDER.
COMMISSION MEMBERS, YOU HAVE HEARD ALL OF THE REMAINING ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE TAKEN WITH ONE VOTE.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAVE ANOTHER ITEM THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND HEARD AS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA? ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE IS THERE MOTION.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ADDISON SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ACCEPTING THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[2. TA-3-24 Chapter 13, Streets and Sidewalks ]
NUMBER TWO, TEXT AMENDMENT 3 24, CHAPTER 13, STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.THIS IS A MINOR TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS INITIATED AT YOUR LAST PLAN COMMISSION MEETING.
IT'S RELATED TO CHAPTER 13, STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, SECTION 13.2 STREET AND ALLEYWAY.
WI THIS WOULD ALLOW T TURNAROUNDS ON STREETS LONGER THAN 500 FEET THAT PROVIDE PRIMARY ACCESS TO FEWER THAN 10 SUBDIVIDED LOTS, PLENTY.
COMMISSION STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WAS SENT TO THE FEDERATION OF CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS AND TO THE GROWTH COALITION.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
HAVE WE, WE RECEIVED ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FROM THE PLANET PLANNING COMMISSION? THERE'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY NEED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN
[3. TA-4-24 Chapter 17, Parking and Loading]
APPROVED AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.TEXT AMENDMENT 4 24, CHAPTER 17, PARKING AND LOADING.
THIS IS ANOTHER TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS INITIATED LAST MONTH.
THIS IS RELATED TO CHAPTER 17, PARKING.
THIS AMENDMENT TO SECTION 17.52.
LOCATIONAL STANDARDS FOR PARKING AREAS AMENDING THE MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACK FOR FRONT LOADED GARAGES OR CARPORTS FROM 25 FEET TO 20 FEET.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED UDC AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS AMENDMENT REDUCES THE 25 FOOT FRONT LOADED GARAGE SETBACK TO 20 FEET.
THIS REDUCTION HELPS TO ENABLE INFILL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING WHILE ALSO MAINTAINING THE PURPOSE FOR SEPARATION OF FRONT LOADED GARAGES WITH ADJACENT SIDEWALKS.
A STANDARD PARKING SPACE IS NINE FEET BY 18 FEET, ALLOWING FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING AIR WITH THE DRIVEWAY WHILE NOT IMPEDING SIDEWALK USERS.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER? OF COURSE, FOR THIS ITEM.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM? THERE'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ELLEN TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
THAT MOTION RECEIVES A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCROGGS.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY NEED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED.
[7. Case 49-24 553 Tuscaloosa Avenue]
WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CASE 49 24 5 5 3 TUSCALOOSA AVENUE CASE 49 24 5 5 3 TUSCALOOSA AVENUE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF TUSCALOOSA AVENUE, SOUTH OF NORTH STREET COUNCIL, DISTRICT SEVEN DEON.FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M1 WITH A REQUESTED ZONING OF LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, A 3.1 CASE 49 24 5 5 3.
TUS AVENUE PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
HI, IS YOUR, IS YOUR MIC TURNED ON? LOOK AT THE BOTTOM AT THE BASE.
THERE SHOULD BE, UH, THE LAG GREEN LIGHT SHOULD TURN ON RIGHT HERE.
UM, SO TUSCALOOSA AVENUE, A BIT ABOUT IT.
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BACK STREET OF TUSCALOOSA, WHICH IS ROSELAWN AVENUE IN MID CITY AND WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN GENERATIONS THERE.MY MOTHER, HER MOTHER, MY GRANDMOTHER'S MOTHER, I MEAN, AND ON AND ON.
I HAVE LITERALLY BEEN THERE 37 YEARS.
AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT I GREW UP KNOWING ARE OLDER NOW, AND MOST OF THEM HAVE PASSED AWAY.
THERE WAS A MAN BY THE NAME OF MR. SHERMAN AND HE OWNED MOST OF THE PROPERTY ON THOSE TWO STREETS AND HE HAS ALSO PASSED AWAY.
UM, AND I SAID THAT TO SAY WITH EVERYBODY GETTING OLDER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS GONE DOWN FROM WHAT I KNOW OF IT AS A KID CURRENTLY, I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO MY MOM WHO WAS HERE, WHO'S ALSO GETTING OLDER.
AND SO I WENT AWAY TO WORK AND I CAME BACK BECAUSE MY MOM IS GETTING OLDER AND NOW I HAVE A SON, BUT THE HOUSE I LIVE IN WAS MY GRANDMOTHER'S WHO DIED TWO YEARS AGO WHO WAS 93.
I SIMPLY WANNA BUILD A HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO MY MOM, BUT IT'S ON THE BACK STREET.
I BOUGHT THE LOT ALMOST A YEAR AGO, AND THE LOT HAD ALMOST $10,000 WORTH OF LIENS ON IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING.
BUT IN LEARNING NOW I KNOW BETTER ALENE WAS PUT ON IT BECAUSE I CALLED BLIGHTED PROPERTY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT WAS A HOUSE THAT LITERALLY HAD HALFWAY FALLEN DOWN.
AND AT ANY RANDOM DAY YOU HAVE POSSUMS AND RACCOONS RUNNING, YOU KNOW, RIGHT WHERE I WALK OUTSIDE THAT NIGHT.
THAT'S SCARY, ESPECIALLY FOR A LADY.
AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS ONE PERSON THAT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE A BIT YOUNGER WHO'S TRYING TO DO A NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP BY MYSELF.
THERE WERE, UM, A D IT IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS BUILT, EXCUSE ME, I'VE BEEN UNDER THE WEATHER MAYBE FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND TO ME, INITIALLY I DIDN'T WANT IT BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT BROUGHT PRETTY BAD PEOPLE AND I DIDN'T WANT MY SON GOING OUTSIDE WITH PRETTY BAD PEOPLE.
BUT WE TEAMED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT BUILT THE HOMES TO PUT GOOD PEOPLE IN THE HOMES.
AND NOW IT'S REALLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT WAS THE START OF CLEANING UP MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO SOME PEOPLE MOVE AWAY WHEN THEY GET OLDER, AND THAT'S OKAY, AND I DID TOO, BUT I WANNA MOVE BACK TO BE NEXT TO MY MOM WHERE I'VE BEEN LIVING MY WHOLE LIFE.
AND ULTIMATELY, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH CLEANING THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP, ESPECIALLY ON MY OWN DOLLARS.
I'M NOT GETTING CITY FUNDING MONEY.
I'M JUST A GIRL WITH A DREAM AND I'M, I WANNA BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND HOPEFULLY MYSELF AND MY SON AND, YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY CAN MOVE IN IT.
SO THERE'S NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS THAN THAT.
I JUST WANNA BUILD A HOME WHERE IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING BUT HOMES.
IT'S NOW ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOTHING BUT HOMES.
SO I AM BASICALLY PAYING TO REZONE TO BUILD A HOME WHERE THERE WAS A HOME.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT REALLY STANDS, BUT THAT'S WHERE I STAND WITH IT.
AND SO HOPEFULLY IT GETS APPROVED, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU IT IS, UM, ONLY TO IMPROVE THE AREA AND I WANNA DO MORE THAN THAT IN THE FUTURE.
SO I PLAN TO BE BACK HERE TO BUILD MORE HOMES AND HOPEFULLY CLEAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP MORE.
RIGHT NOW, TODAY, I JUST PAID $700 TO GET A SKID STEER FIXED TO MOVE DEBRIS BECAUSE IF YOU CALL THE CITY, YOU HAVE A LIEN ON THAT PROPERTY, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE THE CONTRACT HAS TO BE PAID.
SO I'M DOING IT OUTTA MY OWN POCKET.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN HEAR THAT, BUT THAT'S THE GIST OF IT.
WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS, UH, I'M SORRY, THREE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER CARDS, UH, THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
I'LL READ THOSE NAMES IN FOR THE RECORD.
CHELSEA SEG, STEPHANIE PALMER AND VELMA WILLIAMS. WE HAVE ONE COURT IN OPPOSITION THAT IS FOR DAVID MILLS.
YOU CAN COME TO THE MIC AT THIS TIME.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, SIR.
UH, CAN I ASK A QUESTION FIRST? SO I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO RESTRICT, OR, OR IS IT GONNA MAKE THE PROPERTY STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL OR WILL IT JUST ADD RESIDENTIAL TO
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A, TO A LIGHT COMMERCIAL WHERE IT'S ZONED ALREADY? IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS, THEN WE CAN TRY TO ADDRESS THEM OUT THAT YOU'VE, UH, USED YOUR, YOUR SPEAKING TIME.OKAY, BUT I, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
THE, THE REASON FOR MY OPPOSITION, SHE MIS MENTIONED MR. SHERMAN BARROW.
UH, SO I OWN NINE PROPERTIES ON TUSCALOOSA AND, UM, MY REAL ESTATE AGENT SAYS THE PROPERTY VALUE WILL GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, BY MAKING THIS REZONING IF IT THEN RESTRICTS ANY SORT OF COMMERCIAL.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE IN THIS, THIS YOUNG LADY'S RIGHT, AND ABILITY TO BUILD A HOUSE.
I DON'T WANNA STOP HER, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO LOSE VALUE ON NINE PROPERTIES THAT I SO DESPERATELY WOULD LIKE TO, TO SELL AND, AND BE RID OF.
SO THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTION AND ANSWERS, JUST FOR YOU TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AND WE CAN'T ADDRESS IT AFTER YOU'VE, AFTER YOU'VE USED YOUR TIME.
IS THAT THE ONLY QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE? YES.
AND SO WITHOUT THE ANSWER, I I HAVE TO SAY I HAVE NINE PROPERTIES, THE VALUE WOULD DECLINE.
SO I AM OPPOSED TO THE, UH, MOVEMENT.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE APPLICANT A, UH, FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF YOU WISH.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, HE SAID THAT HE OWNS NINE PROPERTIES.
SO THERE IS, UM, PUBLIC INFORMATION, THE ATLAS GEO PORTAL, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO SEE WHO OWNS WHAT ON TUSCALOOSA.
AND IF THE CONCERN IS PROPERTY VALUE, I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THE PROPERTY THAT I PURCHASED THAT I WANNA BUILD ON.
IT WAS ADJUDICATED FOR NONPAYMENT OF TAXES.
AND LIKE I SAID, A HOUSE WAS LITERALLY FALLING DOWN ON IT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER HOUSE THAT IS LITERALLY FALLING DOWN THAT I PLAN TO CLEAN UP.
YOU HAVE A LOT NEXT DOOR TO THAT THAT NEEDS CLEANING UP THAT I'M GONNA CLEAN UP THIS WEEKEND ON MY OFF DAY.
SO IF PROPERTY VALUE IS THAT CONCERN, AND I'VE BEEN THERE 37 YEARS, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY HAS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUE IN THE LAST 20 FOR SURE, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY I AM THERE TRYING TO DO MY BEST TO CLEAN IT UP.
SO THE NINE PROPERTIES THAT HE OWNS, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT ALL NINE IN HIS NAME, AND THAT'S OKAY, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, I CAN PROVE THAT THERE'S ABOUT SIX, ADJUDICATED LOTS THAT ARE NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
AND IF MR. MILLS FELT SO MOVED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEING CLEAN AND TAKEN CARE OF, THEN WHEN WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, UM, STEWARD, OH, I CAN'T CALL HIS LAST NAME, BUT WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE HAD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO CLEAN IT UP AND THEN THE PROJECT ON THE NEXT STREET WAS APPROVED.
UM, SO HE WAS NOT AT ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS.
I WAS STANDING HERE TO, LIKE I SAID, OPPOSE THE PROJECT INITIALLY, BUT THEY SAID LET'S TEAM UP AND LET'S MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE THAT WAS MY CONCERN.
NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT.
HE WASN'T AT ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS AND THIS WASN'T LONG AGO.
SO I FIND IT SO ODD THAT YOU OWN NINE PROPERTIES AND I ALSO FIND IT ODD THAT YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU PULL THE PICTURES UP THAT WERE JUST SHOWN, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BLIGHT IN THE PICTURES, BUT I'VE ALREADY CLEARED MY LAND FOR THE MOST PART.
SO I DON'T THINK PROPERTY VALUE IS THE REASON WHY.
AND IF THAT IS THE CONCERN, THEN WE ARE REALLY LATE.
I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT ME BUILDING THIS HOUSE WOULD INCREASE HIS PROPERTY VALUE BECAUSE EVERYTHING BACK THERE IS FALLING DOWN.
AT THIS TIME I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BEFORE, UH, ASKING COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR COMMENTS, DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, UH, WOULD YOU CARE TO COMMENT ON MR. MILLS' QUESTION REGARDING, UH, THE IMPACT THAT THIS CHANGE WOULD HAVE, UH, TO THE PROPERTY? CERTAINLY THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST AS WAS STATED, ON ON PROPERTY AT 5 5 3 TUSCALOOSA AVENUE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY REQUEST.
IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE ZONING OR CHANGE THE USES ON ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY ON THIS STREET OR IN THE AREA.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED REZONE FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS OUR SECOND MOST INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT.
IT ALLOWS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES FABRICATION, USES HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES, BUT DOES NOT ALLOW RESIDENTIAL.
AS YOU SAW IN THE PICTURE, THIS STREET HISTORICALLY WAS A RESIDENTIAL
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STREET.THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE REZONING 2 8 3 0.1, WHICH IS A LIMITED RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
IF SUCCESSFUL, IT WOULD NOT ALLOW COMMERCIAL OR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL JUST ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD NOT AFFECT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND WOULD ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR DUPLEX OR MULTIFAMILY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT DIRECTOR HOLMAN.
I HOPE THAT SATISFIED, UH, MR. MILLS' QUESTION.
HE LOOKS, UH, AS LOOKS AS THOUGH THAT IS THE CASE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE, UH, COMMISSION? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THERE'S A SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE.
THIS ITEM IS APPROVED AT THIS TIME.
[11. CUP-4-24 10322 Black Road Home Occupation]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.CUP 4 2 4 1 0 3 2 2 BLACK ROAD HOME OCCUPATION CUP 4 24 1 0 3 2 2 BLACK ROAD HOME OCCUPATION PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF BLACK ROAD, WEST OF DALE ROAD COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE NOEL.
THE APPLICANT IS MATTHEW BICKHAM.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A HOME OCCUPATION FOR MANUFACTURING AND SELLING OF FIREARMS. FUTURE BR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS AGRICULTURAL RURAL CUP 4 24 1 0 3 2 2 BLACK ROAD HOME OCCUPATION PLANNING COMMISSION.
STAFF CERTIFIES THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONFORMING TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
I DO NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE HAVE RECEIVED FIVE MESSAGES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
SO, UH, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF.
I'M CURRENTLY A, UH, COMPUTER ENGINEERING STUDENT IN LSU.
UM, JUST TO TOUCH ON THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN LIVING ON THAT PROPERTY FOR 190 YEARS.
WE, UH, SETTLED THAT AREA, UH, WITH MY FAMILY, THE BLACK FAMILY ALONG WITH THE MILANS.
AND JUST ABOUT EVERY LOT THAT SURROUNDS THAT LOT IS, UH, EITHER OWNED BY ME OR MY FAMILY OR THE MILANS, UH, ALL EXCEPT FOR ONE LOT.
UM, AND I'M APPLYING FOR A HOME OCCUPATION, UH, PERMIT BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTO FIREARMS. UM, MY ENTIRE LIFE.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN INTO FIREARMS AND BEFORE MY GRANDFATHER PASSED, UH, WHO WAS THE MAIN PERSON WHO FARMED THAT LAND, HE WAS ALWAYS INTO FIREARMS. SO IT'S ALWAYS JUST BEEN A FAMILY, UH, INTEREST OF MINE.
SO I'M APPLYING FOR THIS TO GET AN OH SEVEN FFL UNDER MY LLC AND AN FFL UNDER FEDERAL LAW IS CONSIDERED TO BE BOTH A DEALER AND A MANUFACTURER IN FIREARMS. NOW, SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE A TF CONSIDERS THE TERM MANUFACTURING TO INCLUDE ANYTHING, UH, OF JUST BASIC ASSEMBLY OF PARTS.
SO, UM, THE ZONING PEOPLE MIGHT CONSIDER MANUFACTURING TO BE HEAVY MANUFACTURING MACHINERY, THAT SORT OF STUFF.
THE, UH, THE A TF DEFINES THAT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, SUCH, JUST SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE DEFINITIONS, I JUST WANNA STIPULATE THAT THERE WILL BE ABSOLUTELY NO HEAVY MACHINERY OR MACHINING OR ANY SORT OF INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING THAT WILL BE DONE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, REALLY THE MAIN FOCUS OF WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, UH, BASIC GUNSMITHING RESTORATION, BASIC ASSEMBLY OF FIREARMS AND TRANSFERS OF FIREARMS BETWEEN PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES.
AND, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS, UH, ALL THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS WILL BE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM AND ALSO IN ACCORDANCE OF REGULATION, THERE WILL BE NO SIGNAGE DIRECTED AND NOTHING WILL BE DONE TO MAKE THE BUILDING APPEAR TO BE ANYTHING O OTHER THAN A DWELLING.
AND, UH, YEAH, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY ALL I GOT.
UM, REALLY IT'S JUST A PASSION OF MINE AND I REALLY JUST WANNA DO WHAT I ALREADY DO FOR MYSELF, FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY ON THE SIDE.
AND TO ME IT'S REALLY A LABOR OF LOVE.
UH, AND IT TIES IN DIRECTLY WITH MY, UH, MY INTEREST IN ENGINEERING 'CAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, FIREARMS ENGINEERING.
YOU MAY THINK COMPUTER ENGINEERING DOESN'T REALLY RELATE, BUT, UM, REALLY JUST ENGINEERING IN GENERAL INTERESTS ME.
AND SO THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I WANNA GET INTO, WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS FOR THOMAS BICKHAM.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR THREE MINUTES, SIR.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS THOMAS BICKHAM.
UM, AND, UM, FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M THE FATHER OF, OF, OF MATTHEW.
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SO A PART OF ME IS VERY PROUD TO BE STANDING UP HERE.UH, AND I DO RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, MAINLY BECAUSE MY 21-YEAR-OLD SON IS SHOWING INITIATIVE TO START A BUSINESS.
AND THIS IS HIS FIRST ATTEMPT AT STARTING A BUSINESS.
AND OF COURSE I WANNA BE HERE TO SUPPORT HIM.
UM, ALSO, UH, I THINK AS HE ALLUDED TO THIS IS, UH, BLACK FAMILY LANDS BEEN THERE IN, IN MY WIFE'S FAMILY FOR THE LAST 190 YEARS.
SHE IS THE SOLE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY NOW, AND I THINK IT'S AN IDEAL SETTING FOR WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD THAT IS IN SUPPORT, BUT, AND DOES, BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
AND THAT IS FOR MICHELLE BICKHAM.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE OPPOSITION.
OUR FIRST CARD IS FOR MARTHA BOWELL.
I'M JUST GONNA READ PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT I PUT ONLINE, IF THAT'S OKAY.
MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE PROPERTY LOCATED NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
AND, UH, MY DAUGHTER, SON-IN-LAW AND THEIR YOUNG CHILDREN RESIDE THERE.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT AUTOMATIC, UH, WEAPONS BEING FIRED.
AND I DO NOT WANT MY GRANDCHILDREN NEAR THIS, NOR DO I WANT A GUN SHOP TO AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUE, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT HE IS NOT REQUESTING A PERMIT FOR A FIRING AGE, A FIRING RANGE AT THIS TIME.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS, HIS INTENTIONS ARE, AND I AM EMPHATICALLY OPPOSED.
MY HUSBAND AND I PURCHASED TWO LOTS, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 12 AND AND 15 YEARS AGO WITH THE HOPE OF PUTTING A THIRD LOT IN BETWEEN TWO OF OUR DAUGHTERS THAT WE, AND IT HAD 800 FOOT OF FRONTAGE THAT WE WERE TOLD REPEATEDLY THAT WE COULD NOT DO THIS BECAUSE OF A SUBSTANDARD ROAD.
SO, AND THERE WOULD BE NO EXCEPTIONS.
SO ALLOWING A BUSINESS WITH TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING, WHETHER THERE IS A STOREFRONT OR NOT, WILL CAUSE MORE DETERIORATION TO THE SUB CENTER ROAD THAN TWO ELDERLY PEOPLE WITH ONE CAR.
SO IF A WEAPON IS BEING TESTED, MALFUNCTIONS CAUSES AN ACCIDENT HARMING A NEIGHBOR, OR IF THE AMMUNITION RICOCHETS AND HARMS ONE OF OUR CHILDREN, THIS IS MY QUESTION, WHO IS AT FAULT? THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE APPLICANT? AND I, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
OUR NEXT CARD IS FOR CHRISTIE MANUEL.
UM, I AM A RESIDENT OF BLACK ROAD.
UM, I HAVE WITNESSED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS FIRED, SOUNDS LIKE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS IN THE BACK.
AND, UM, THE POLICE HAVE BEEN CALLED SEVERAL TIMES OUT THERE, UM, NOT JUST BY THE RESIDENTS THERE, BUT PEOPLE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA BECAUSE THERE'S EXPLOSIONS.
MY CONCERN IS A FIRING RANGE WOULD BRING, UM, LOTS OF LEAD AND STUFF THAT COULD POSSIBLY CONTAMINATE OUR WA, OUR WATER LIVESTOCK, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS LATER ON.
AND ALSO THERE'S A PIPELINE THAT RUNS THROUGH MY PROPERTY AND THE DISTURBANCE OF THE TANNERITE THAT HE EXPLODES ALL THE TIME I BEAR COULD BE A PROBLEM WITH THE PIPELINE.
THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION ON THE PIPELINE IN 2012 AND I COULDN'T FIND THE REASON FOR THAT, UM, EXPLOSION, BUT IT, IT REALLY BOTHERS ME WHEN I'M OUTSIDE AND I DON'T KNOW, HE'S BACK THERE.
IT'S VERY STARTLING TO HEAR AN EXPLOSION ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ANY GUNSHOTS OR ANYTHING ALL THAT TIME.
AND I KNOW THAT IF HE HAD A GUNSHOT THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO TEST THE FIREARMS AND SO THERE WOULD BE JUST AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF THAT BACK THERE.
UM, WHILE I DON'T OPPOSE HIM HAVING A BUSINESS, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE PROPER SETTING FOR THAT.
AND, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S RURAL, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
AND THIS IS TERRORIZING OUR, OUR LIFE OUT THERE.
I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN THERE FAR LESS THAN HIS FAMILY, BUT I PLAN TO BE THERE A LONG TIME.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
MY NEXT COURT IS FOR CRAIG BURKHALTER.
UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF BLACK ROAD.
I LIVE AT 1 0 5 5 0 BLACK ROAD.
BEEN THERE ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW.
UH, PART OF THE REASON WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY OUT THERE WAS TO LIVE IN PEACE AND QUIET.
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UM, WE PAY PRO LARGE SUMS OF PROPERTY TAX, UM, TO LIVE IN A NICE QUIET AREA.TWO VEHICLES CAN CANNOT PASS AT THE SAME TIME.
WE FEEL THAT INCREASING THE TRAFFIC BACK THERE IS GOING TO FURTHER BURDEN THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA, WHICH IS NOT FAIR TO US.
UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AS WELL.
UM, AND WHILE HIS FAMILY HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY BACK THERE FOR MANY YEARS, UH, HE HAS NOT LIVED BACK THERE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT HE FIRSTHAND REALIZES THE CONGESTION AND THE STRUGGLES GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE AREA WITH ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL CAUSE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO HAVE A PROP PLOT.
MAP HAS A LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT STATES ON HERE THAT THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER SUBDIVIDING OF PROPERTIES ON BLACK ROAD UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE ROAD IS BROUGHT UP TO STANDARD.
AND I HAVE COPIES HERE, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE 'EM.
I ALSO HAVE THE PLOT MAP WITH ME AS WELL.
WE ALSO DO HAVE TWO INCIDENTS WHERE THE INSPECTOR REPAIR SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS BEEN CALLED, UH, ON MARCH THE SIXTH.
THEY WERE, UH, CALLED BACK THERE TO THE PROPERTY.
THIS WAS REPORTED BY A GENTLEMAN ON DEER PARK, WHICH IS A SUBDIVISION THAT BACKS UP BACK BEHIND THEIRS, UM, FOR WHAT SOUNDED LIKE AUTOMATIC WEAPON FIRING AND POSSIBLY TANNER RIGHT EXPLOSIONS.
AND THEN AGAIN, ON OCTOBER 6TH, UH, IT WAS REPORTED, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES, GUNSHOT FIRES, UH, AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS CALLED REPORT IT NOW.
UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT Y'ALL, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BLOCK ANYBODY FROM, UH, OPENING A BUSINESS, BUT WE DO NOT FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE PROPER PLACE.
UH, IT'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT OF THIS PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS GONNA BE A, A GOOD FIT FOR THIS, THIS COMPANY.
WE JUST NEED IT TO KEEP IT FOR OUR RECORDS.
WE HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER COURTS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION BUT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
I'LL READ THOSE NAMES IN FOR THE RECORD AT THIS TIME.
MADELINE TER, ERIC RATHKEY, AND BRIAN THOMPSON.
AT THIS TIME I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
SO, UH, JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT, UH, SOME OF THE OPPONENT SPEAKERS BROUGHT UP.
SO IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, THERE REALLY SHOULD NOT BE THAT MUCH OF AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
'CAUSE UH, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, UH, A LOT OF THESE BUSINESS OPERATIONS WILL BE DONE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.
AND, UH, REALLY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO AN FFL OPER, AN FFL OPERATION REALLY JUST COMES DOWN TO SHIPPING, RIGHT? SO A LOT OF THE TIME, UM, PEOPLE WILL WANT TO BUY A FIREARM, BUT THEY WON'T BE LOCAL TO THE AREA.
THEREFORE, IF I WOULD HAVE AN FFL, I WOULD SHIP THAT FIREARM TO ANOTHER FFL.
SO REALLY IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, THERE REALLY WON'T BE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
AND, UH, AND TO ADDRESS WHAT ANOTHER OPPONENT SPEAKER SAID, UM, I HAVE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THAT PROPERTY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I'VE BEEN ON THAT PROPERTY MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I'M VERY AWARE THAT IT'S A SINGLE LANE ROAD.
UM, BUT I JUST, I SIMPLY JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD INCREASE THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC THAT MUCH.
IT'S NOT LIKE I'M OPENING A GIANT MEGA STORE OR ANYTHING.
THIS IS SIMPLY JUST A WAY TO EXPAND ON MY HOBBY AND A WAY TO, UH, MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY OFF OF IT.
AND, UH, AS TO, UH, THE, UH, AS TO THE WHOLE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS THING, UH, WE'VE HAD THE SHERIFF, UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT COME OUT.
UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THEM COME OUT MORE THAN TWICE.
WE'VE HAD THEM COME OUT SIX TIMES AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE CLOCKWORK AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? I'LL GO OUT THERE AND I'LL FIRE OFF A FEW SHOTS, UM, WHICH IS WELL WITHIN MY RIGHTS.
UM, I'M ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, I'M ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY SHOOTING NORTH INTO THE, UH, MILLIKEN'S LAND.
AND BEYOND THAT IS THREE MILES OF FOREST.
AND THERE'S ALSO A BERM THAT, UH, THAT I SET UP BACK THERE AND SOME TREES THAT I SHOOT INTO.
SO IN TERMS OF, UH, DANGER TO ANYONE ELSE, UH, IT'S JUST PHYSICALLY NOT POSSIBLE JUST FOR THE PHYSICS OF IT ALL.
IT, UH, WHEN THE SHERIFF DOES COME OUT, WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE THEM COME OUT, UM, ON THAT MARCH DATE THAT THE, THE GUY MENTIONED.
UH, THEY SEARCHED ME COMPLETELY.
THEY SEARCHED EVERYTHING THAT I WAS FIRING AND, UM, THEY LET ME GO.
SO THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN AUTOMATIC WEAPONS OF ANY KIND ON THAT PROPERTY.
I'VE HAD, LIKE I SAID, I'VE HAD THE SHERIFF COME OUT SIX TIMES.
I'VE HAD THEM COME OUT DUE TO TANNERITE, WHICH IS PERFECTLY LEGAL.
I'VE HAD THEM COME OUT 'CAUSE OF THE, UH, THE ACCUSATIONS OF AUTOMATIC GUNFIRE.
THEY'VE COME OUT, THEY'VE SEARCHED MY THINGS.
AND, UH, IT'S HONESTLY JUST KIND OF FUNNY AT THIS POINT
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BECAUSE EVERY OTHER SURROUNDING NEIGHBOR ALWAYS, UH, MANAGES TO TALK TO ME ABOUT THESE SORT OF THINGS THAT WAY WE WORK IT OUT NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO SOME OF THE OPPOSITION SPEAKERS, THEY JUST RESORT SIMPLY TO CALLING THE POLICE AND NOT COMMUNICATING WITH ME.SO AFTER THAT, UH, UH, THE, THE LADY MENTIONED THE PIPELINE BLOWING UP.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE PIPELINE DID NOT BLOW UP WHEN I SET OFF THAT TANNERITE.
AND AFTER THE COPS WERE CALLED, THEY CAME, THEY CHECKED EVERYTHING OUT, THEY LEFT BECAUSE THERE WAS SIMPLY NO REASON FOR THEM TO BE THERE.
LIKE I SAID, I WAS WELL WITHIN MY RIGHTS.
UM, I WENT AHEAD AND THEN I, AND I TALKED TO HER AND I OFFERED HER MY PHONE NUMBER.
AND EVER SINCE THEN, IT'S BEEN NO COMMUNICATION.
IT IS JUST BEEN SIMPLY, I GO OUT THERE, I FIRE OFF A FEW ROUNDS AND THEN THE POLICE SHOW UP.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULD SOLVE NEIGHBORLY DISPUTES BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND I WOULD NOT BE BRINGING THAT SORT OF, UH, THAT SORT OF DRAMA INTO THIS, THIS ROOM TODAY.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS PURELY A BUSINESS OPERATION.
EVEN IF I DON'T GET APPROVED FOR THIS, I'M GONNA KEEP USING THAT PROPERTY FOR SHOOTING, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I GET THIS OR NOT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE WHETHER I GET THIS OR NOT.
AND THAT'S TO THE SHOOTING RANGE THING.
THIS WAS NEVER GOING TO BE A SHOOTING RANGE.
I NEVER MENTIONED A SHOOTING RANGE TO ANYONE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S JUST PEOPLE SPITBALLING.
UH, THIS WAS NEVER GONNA BE A SHOOTING RANGE PERIOD.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD TO SAY ON THE MATTER.
AT THIS TIME I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BEFORE, UH, REQUESTING COMMENTS, I WILL ASK ONE QUESTION OR ASK, UH, FURTHER, RATHER ASK DIRECTOR HOLCOMB TO CLARIFY AND CONFIRM THIS IS TO, FOR A REZONING SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MANUFACTURE WEAPONS IF HE WERE TO IN THE FUTURE, AND WHICH HE INDICATED HE HAS NO INTEREST IN DOING.
BUT IF HE WERE TO CHANGE HIS MIND OR IF HE WERE IN FACT INTENDING TO, UH, PURSUE A SHOOTING RANGE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY, UH, SEPARATE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WOULD'VE TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY AND BE APPROVED.
UM, IS THAT CORRECT? CERTAINLY.
BUT JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, THIS IS NOT A REZONING.
OKAY? SO THEY ARE NOT REZONING, THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT WILL WOULD REMAIN RURAL ZONING.
UH, AND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS STATING THAT IT'S GENERALLY APPROPRIATE FOR A HOME OCCUPATIONAL USE.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S, HE'S ASKING FOR TONIGHT.
UH, ALONG WITH, FOR THE SPECIFIC FFL LICENSE AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT THAT COMES WITH, HE NEEDS A CONDITIONAL USE HOME OCCUPATION.
UH, ALL THOSE RESTRICTIONS HE MENTIONED, MANY OF THOSE AT THE BEGINNING VISITS HAVE TO BE WITHIN SEVEN 7:00 AM AND 7:00 PM BY APPOINTMENT ONLY, A MINIMUM OF ONE INDIVIDUAL MUST OCCUPY THE DWELLING AS A PRIMARY PLACE OF RESIDENCE.
NO ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE OR COMMERCIAL SIGNAGE, UH, CAN BE INSTALLED.
NOTHING CAN BE DONE TO, TO ALTER THE BUILDING, UH, APPEARANCE IN ANY WAY.
IT HAS TO MAINTAIN THE VISUAL APPEARANCE OF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AND IT IT WELL EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM LOT AREA THAT'S REQUIRED FOR A HOME OCCUPATION, UH, AND CANNOT BE LOCATED WITHIN A RECOGNIZED SUBDIVISION, WHICH THIS IS NOT.
UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, YOUR SECOND QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT HE COULD DO A SHOOTING RANGE IN THE FUTURE.
UH, THAT IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UH, WE HAVE ONE ON OUR UPCOMING AGENDA NEXT MONTH IN A VERY DIFFERENT LOCATION IN THE SOUTH END OF THE PARISH, BUT THAT REQUIRES A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING, A MORE DETAILED SET OF PLANS SHOWING THE LOCATION OF A, A SHOOTING RANGE.
THERE'S SEPARATE CRITERIA FOR THAT.
SO IF ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE IF HE WAS TO SET UP A COMMERCIAL SHOOTING RANGE, IT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED TONIGHT.
THANK YOU DIRECTOR, OPEN FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
I BELIEVE VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT HAS, UH, SEVERAL COMMENTS HE'D LIKE TO MAKE AND PERHAPS SOME QUESTIONS.
FIRST THING, THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DIRECT OR ASK THE DIRECTOR, THIS IS NOT A RE SUBDIVISION, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
HE'S NOT SEEKING THE, THE SUBDIVISION OF THIS PROPERTY IN ANY WAY TO OKAY.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS STATED PUBLICLY BEFORE.
THIS IS NOT EVERY SUBDIVISION.
HE'S NOT LOOKING TO DIVIDE THIS PROPERTY IN ANY WAY.
SECOND QUESTION IS FOR THE PARISH ATTORNEY, FIREARMS DISCHARGE IS LEGAL IN THIS AREA, IS IT NOT? YES.
IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION 1393, UH, IN THE PARISH, OUTSIDE THE CITY, THE DISCHARGE, WELL THIS IS WHAT I'LL SAY.
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OR SHOTGUNS IS PROHIBITED WITHIN 500 FEET FROM ANY STREET, ROAD OR HOUSE.UM, WITH REGARD TO A PISTOL, UM, DISCHARGING A PISTOL IS PROHIBITED FROM WITHIN ONE HALF MILE OF ANY STREET, ROAD, OR HOUSE.
SO PROVIDED THAT THOSE DISTANCES ARE OBSERVED APPROPRIATELY, MM-HMM,
UH, CAN THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD, HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS? YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE MANUFACTURING FIREARMS, PUTTING 'EM TOGETHER.
WILL YOU BE REQUIRING TESTING? LIKE WILL YOU TAKE 'EM OUT IN THE BACK AND SHOOT EM? SO WITH A LOT OF, SO LIKE WITH A LOT OF FIREARMS, LIKE FOR AN AR FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY NEED TO DO TESTING.
UM, AND THOSE DON'T REQUIRE ANY SORT OF HEAVY MACHINERY OR ANYTHING THAT'S JUST HAND ASSEMBLY.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT REQUIRES LIKE, UH, HEAVY MACHINING, THAT SORT OF THING? NO, I'M, I'M MORE WORRIED, I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND TESTING.
I MEAN, ARE YOU GONNA TAKE 'EM OUT IN THE BACK AND TEST THEM? UH, WELL FOR SOME OF THE BASIC THINGS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED, NO.
BUT IF I'M WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT IS, THAT IS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT, LIKE NOT IN AR, THEN PROBABLY YES.
BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT PROPERTY IS 200 ACRES.
THAT LOT PARTICULARLY IS NOT 200 ACRES.
BUT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS ALSO OWNED BY US AND IT'S 200 ACRES AND I DON'T SHOOT ON THAT PROPERTY.
I SHOOT ON THE LOT THAT IS NORTH OF THAT AND WHICH IS WAY OVER HALF A MILE.
UM, ALSO, JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT RULE, IT'S A HALF A MILE FOR, UH, FOR RIFLES SPECIFICALLY IT'S RIFLES AND PISTOLS.
THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT HALF MILE RULE IS FOR SHOTGUNS.
UM, AND I THINK AIR PISTOLS TOO, WHICH I THINK IS 500 FEET, SO THAT'S CORRECT.
I'M, I'M WELL WITHIN THE WHOLE HALF MILE OKAY.
AND YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD, YOU DO NOT OWN A CLASS THREE FIREARM AND YOU HAVE NOT DISCHARGED A CLASS THREE FIREARM? NO, NO, NO, NO.
THE SHERIFF HAS COME OUT MANY TIMES.
UM, THEY'VE SEARCHED ME MANY TIMES.
NOT TO MENTION I AM TOO POOR TO OWN ONE.
UM, AND THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS, YOU SAID LIKE YOU MAY ASSEMBLE AN AR YOU MAY DO SOME WORK ON A PISTOL.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A LICENSED GUNSMITH WHO'S GONNA BE WORKING WITH YOU? I WOULD BE THE GUNSMITH.
SO REALLY THIS LICENSE INCLUDES GUNSMITHING.
SO IT'S THE, THE MANUFACTURER EVERYTHING BUT DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES.
SO FOR DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FFL, RIGHT? YEAH, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT AT ALL.
AND I MEAN, THE TANNERITE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO PASS JUDGMENT ON THAT.
I JUST GOTTA TELL YOU, IF I HAD NEIGHBORS I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BLOW IT UP, BUT YEAH, SO I, I HAVEN'T SET THAT OFF IN, IN MONTHS.
AND THAT WAS AFTER I HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH THAT LADY OVER THERE.
I HIGHLY, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DON'T.
YEAH, BUT THAT'S, WE, WE CAN'T MAKE THAT STIPULATION.
YOU MAY WANNA STAY CLOSE TO THE MIC IN CASE, UH, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
ANY MOTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CUP.
JUST BE CAREFUL WITH THE TANNER, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
I BELIEVE HE'S RECEIVED A SECOND TO THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ELLEN.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
THAT ITEM IS APPROVED AT THIS TIME.
[DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS]
TO COMMUNICATIONS, BEGINNING WITH DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS.JUST A COUPLE REMINDERS FOR THE COMMISSION.
YOUR NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 18TH.
ALSO, I NEED TO, UH, ANNOUNCE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICE WILL BE HOSTING A BROWNFIELD'S OPEN HOUSE TOMORROW NIGHT FROM SIX TO SEVEN AT THE JEWEL NEWMAN COMMUNITY CENTER.
THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING IS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR BROWNFIELD'S PROGRAM TO THE PUBLIC AND ALSO INFORMATION ON AVAILABLE FUNDING THROUGH, UH, THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE.
[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]
I WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS AND I WILL BEGIN BY CONGRATULATING OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, SHANKA TAYLOR, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST AND CURRENT PLANNING.SHANKA COORDINATES THE TASK FOR MEETING ALL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THIS INCLUDES ADVERTISEMENT IN THE NEWSPAPER,
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PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, MAILOUT, AND PUBLIC NOTICE POSTINGS.SHE ALSO PREPARES MEETING MINUTES AND ASSIST IN THE PREPARATION OF THE MATERIAL FOR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
MICHAN IS ALSO COORDINATING THE TRANSFER OF OFFICE FILES FOR THE CITY OF ST.
SHE HAS BEEN A CRITICAL BACKUP WHEN NEEDED AND HAS MADE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION THAT DESERVES RECOGNITION.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, IS IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ADDISON? SECOND FROM VICE CHAIRMAN GROUT.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU EVERYONE, AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING.