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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING OF THE BATON ROUGE METROPOLITAN FIRE AND POLICE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.

[1. Roll Call]

MISS HARRIS, IF WE COULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. MICHAEL LEMING. PRESENT. MR. EDWIN BERAUD. PRESENT.

MR. BRADLEY RICKS. PRESENT. MR. JOSHUA NEWVILLE.

PRESENT. MR. TODD STERLING. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. HEARING NONE.

THE FLOOR IS CLOSED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA.

[2. Consider Motion to Approve Agenda.]

DO WE HAVE ANY? YES. I NEED TO AMEND, CALL FOR SOME PROMOTIONAL AND COMPETITIVE EXAMINATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. IS THIS, JUST AS FAR AS LOGISTICS, IS THIS BETTER ADDED TO ONE OF THE EXISTING AGENDA ITEMS, OR WILL THIS NEED TO BE A NEW AGENDA ITEM? A NEW ONE? YEAH, I'LL SAY A NEW ONE. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO WHAT? WE CAN MAKE A NUMBER. SO WE'LL MAKE A NUMBER 12.

SO I WAS ABOUT TO SAY I. EVERY TIME WE'VE EVER ADDED SOMETHING TO THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA, I'VE ALWAYS CRINGED A LITTLE BIT. AND I'M LIKE, THAT'S A LOT OF RENUMBERING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. SO JUST TO DISCUSS INFORMALLY FOR THE MOMENT, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THE MOTION, WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA? YOU MEAN TO NAME THEM INDIVIDUALLY? I HAVE 1, 02, 3, 4, 5, 6, EXAMINATION.

GOOD. YES. OKAY. SO, MISS TWAHNA, DO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT INFORMATION OR IS THIS.

YOU HAVE IT ALL? OKAY. AND SO SHE HAS IT. SO SHE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF HELP US A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS.

AND HOW IS THIS AGENDA ITEM FRAMED? IS IT A MOTION TO SET FOR EXAMINATION OR.

MOTION TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS. MOTION. FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

OKAY. SO, MISS TWAHNA, WHAT I WILL ASK IS THAT IF YOU COULD JUST PLACE THAT NEXT TO ME AND I'LL.

WELL, YOU COULD MAKE THE ENTIRE MOTION, IF YOU HAVE THEM AVAILABLE.

SO IF SO ENDING INFORMAL DISCUSSION, IF YOU COULD MAKE A FORMAL MOTION TO ADD THIS ITEM TO THE AGENDA.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD EXAMINATIONS FOR THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

CHIEF OF TRAINING. ASSISTANT CHIEF OF TRAINING.

CHIEF INVESTIGATOR. CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

ASSISTANT CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER AND TRAINING OFFICER.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? AND WE'LL ADD THAT AS AGENDA ITEM 12 AND RENUMBER THE MOTION TO ADJOURN FOR NOW TO ITEM 13.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THIS MORNING? HEARING NONE.

THEN IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.

I SO MOVED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

AND SO BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS STILL A LEARNING AND GROWING EXPERIENCE FOR ME.

MR. LEMING, THAT WAS YOUR MOTION? YES. ALL RIGHT.

MOTION BY MR. LEMING, SECOND BY MR. RICKS. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING? NONE. MOTION CARRIES. CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025.

[3. Consider Motion to Approve Minutes from: September 22, 2025]

HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ANY AMENDMENTS NECESSARY? NO. ALL RIGHT. THEN IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION.

WELL, THE CHAIR MOVES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025.

SECOND. MR. LEMING SECONDS. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

[4. Consider Motion to Approve or Reject Personnel Action Forms in the Baton Rouge Fire and Police Departments.]

SO THOSE ARE IN FRONT OF ME, MISS HARRIS, I WILL ASK FOR SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW THIS PORTION SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

THEY'VE ALREADY REVIEWED THEM. AND SO ONE OF THEM MAKES A MOTION AND THE OTHER ONE SECOND.

PERFECT. THEN IN THAT CASE, DO I HAVE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM 4? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACTION FORM.

MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. I SECOND. SECOND BY MR. LEMING. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES.

CONSIDER MOTION TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR POLICE COMMUNICATIONS SUPERVISOR.

[5. Consider Motion to Call for Examinations in the Baton Rouge Police Department]

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THE. ANY MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CALL FOR THE EXAMINATION FOR POLICE COMMUNICATION SUPERVISOR.

MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. LEMING.

ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES.

AGENDA ITEM 6. CONSIDER MOTION TO REVIEW/ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR POLICE SERGEANT,

[6. Consider Motion to Review/ Accept Applications in the Baton Rouge Police Department]

WHICH HAD 40 APPLICANTS, AND POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN I, WHICH HAD 13 APPLICANTS.

IS GENERAL MOTIONS AS WELL? THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN.

ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE APPLICATION FOR POLICE SERGEANT AND POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN.

MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. LEMING. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM 7. CONSIDER MOTION TO REVIEW/ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR CHIEF FIRE SAFETY OFFICER,

[7. Consider Motion to Review/ Accept Applications in the Baton Rouge Fire Department]

WHICH HAD TWO APPLICANTS, AND FIRE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, WHICH HAD ONE APPLICANT.

WE HAVE A CORRECTION THERE. APPLICATIONS. BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN UNDER THE TITLE CHIEF FIRE SAFETY OFFICER.

IS THAT A. IS THAT UNDER? JUST UNDER [INAUDIBLE].

SO IT SHOULD BE FIRED UPON INSTEAD OF. SO WE NEED TO AMEND THIS.

SO I WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT TO ASK BECAUSE TECHNICALLY I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THIS WAS POLICE MAKING THIS UNDER THE CHIEF'S NEW PURVIEW OR NOT. BUT OKAY, SO THIS THIS NEEDS TO BE AMENDED OKAY.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO AMEND IT TO BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT. INSTEAD OF POLICE.

THEN THE CHAIR MOVES TO AMEND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, WHICH PREVIOUSLY READS, CONSIDER MOTION TO REVIEW/ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR, AND I WILL MOVE TO AMEND THAT TO READ CONSIDER MOTION TO REVIEW/ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR CHIEF FIRE SAFETY OFFICER AND FIRE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. MR. RICK SECONDS. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 7 IS AMENDED.

THEN THE CHAIR MOVES AGENDA ITEM 7 TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO REVIEW/ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR CHIEF FIRE SAFETY OFFICER AND FIRE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. MR. LEMING SECONDS.

ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES.

AGENDA ITEM 8. CONSIDER MOTION TO REVIEW/ACCEPT TEST RESULTS IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR,

[8. Consider Motion to Review/ Accept Test Results in the Baton Rouge Fire Department]

CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES, DISTRICT FIRE CHIEF, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF, FIRE CAPTAIN.

AND THIS APPEARS AS THOUGH IT WAS CAPTIONED CORRECTLY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? WELL, THIS IS. I ASKED FOR EVERYONE.

OF COURSE, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THAT I NEEDED TO ASK.

NOW, THE THING IS, WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS.

RIGHT. SO I KNOW BECAUSE THIS WAS THE ONE THAT WAS SENT.

SO THESE ARE THE RESULTS FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR.

YES. IT'S THE FIRST ITEM. THEY TAKE THESE JUST SO WELL.

WE SHOULD BE OKAY.

ARE THESE FOR MR. LEMING'S INITIAL REVIEW OR MY REVIEW, OR HOW IS THIS HANDLED AT THIS POINT? OKAY. AND AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, THAT WAS THE FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR.

[INAUDIBLE] DO NOT KNOW, BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW THE CIVIL SERVICE LAW ON THAT SUBJECT, WHAT IS A PASSING GRADE? 75. 75. OKAY. THIS IS FOR FIRE CAPTAIN, WHICH IS THE FIFTH BULLET ITEM.

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THIS JUST SAYS FIRE CAPTAIN. SO. AND I'LL SEE WHEN I OPEN THESE.

SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FIVE. IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE FOUR ENVELOPES, SO HOPEFULLY SOMETHING IS COMBINED AT SOME POINT.

WE SHALL SEE.

SO WE'LL HOLD THAT FOR A MOMENT. BUT IT'S ALSO CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES AND POLICE CADET.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN. AND FINGERPRINT. YEAH, YEAH, BUT THE CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES IS FOR.

OH, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY, SO THIS HAS MULTIPLE.

THIS IS THE CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES, POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN II, POLICE CADET AND POLICE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST I.

SPECIAL SERVICES. OKAY.

OKAY. THIS SHOULD JUST BE CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES, WHICH IS PART OF AGENDA ITEM 8.

I WILL SIMPLY HOLD THE REST OF THEM FOR NOW.

THIS IS DISTRICT FIRE CHIEF, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF.

SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL FIVE. AND WE'LL CONFIRM.

BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS.

NOW I KNOW WHY THAT WAS PRESS'S FAVORITE PART OF THE MEETING EVERY TIME.

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I'M HOPING THAT'S A PATTERN. I'M GOING PAGE BY PAGE.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I'M HOPING IT'S A PATTERN, THAT THERE ARE 25 ON EACH PAGE. I THINK SO, BUT WE MIGHT ELIMINATE THAT PART UNLESS WE WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE ON HERE THEY HAVE 59.

OKAY. ON THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER, THEY DIDN'T.

SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO ADD THE NUMBER THAT DID NOT SHOW.

OKAY. I'M JUST. I'M HALFWAY THROUGH THIS ANYWAY.

I MIGHT AS WELL FINISH COUNTING.

THERE'S 25 PER PAGE, SO YOU CAN KIND OF USE THAT AS A.

59 PASS.

COULD I JUST READ THOSE RESULTS OFF NOW? OR PROBABLY WHEN WE REDO THEM OR WHOEVER IT IS.

THEN YOU'LL INDICATE I GUESS YOU DO INDICATE YOU WANT TO DO ONE BY ONE, OR DO YOU WANT TO DO ALL.

THESE ARE ALL A MOTION. RIGHT. SO IF WE COUNT THEM ALL NOW.

WELL. AS FAR AS I THINK I'LL DO THE MOTION TOGETHER AS FAR AS SIMPLY ANNOUNCING WHAT THE RESULTS ARE, I DON'T BELIEVE IS PART OF THE MOTION. AND SO I THINK WE CAN JUST KIND OF ANNOUNCE THAT SEPARATELY WITHOUT HAVING TO MODIFY THE AGENDA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF INFORMATION, IN THE RESULTS OF THE EXAMINATION FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR, 59 INDIVIDUALS PASSED. 14 DID NOT PASS. 17 DID NOT TAKE THE EXAM.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE. I WAS GOING TO DO THEM IN ROUGH ORDER. DO WE HAVE CHIEF OF FIRE SERVICES YET OR NO? DO YOU HAVE? THIS IS FIRE CAPTAIN. OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

YES. YOU MAY.

MR. LEMING, MR. BERAUD, JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION, IF SOMEONE IS LISTED AS RECEIVING NO GRADE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN THIS CONTEXT? PARTICULAR EXAMINATION, THEY HAVE, THEY WERE, WE CHANGED THE CAPTAIN'S TEST AND THEY WERE TAKING TWO TESTS. OKAY. AND THAT INDIVIDUAL DID NOT TAKE THE SECOND TEST.

GOTCHA. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I HAD SEEN THAT, SO I FIGURED THAT WAS WORTH ASKING TO SEE, TO SEE WHAT HAD CAUSED THAT. SO THE RESULTS FOR FIRE CAPTAIN, 50 INDIVIDUALS PASSED 4 DID NOT PASS. ONE RECEIVED NO GRADE. 3 DID NOT SHOW.

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I APPRECIATE YOU.

GOOD NUMBERS. THE RESULTS OF THE EXAMINATION FOR DISTRICT FIRE CHIEF.

31 INDIVIDUALS PASSED. 8 DID NOT PASS. 10 DID NOT SHOW.

THE RESULTS OF THE EXAMINATION FOR CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES.

NO INDIVIDUALS PASS. 1 INDIVIDUAL DID NOT PASS.

NO INDIVIDUALS DID NOT SHOW.

THOUGH. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE MISSING ONE. THERE WERE FOUR INDIVIDUALS.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'VE DONE DEPUTY. FIRE CHIEF YET.

BUT I DIDN'T SEE HIM. OKAY.

MAYBE YOU DID THE DISTRICT. WHAT'S THAT? SO I'M.

THIS IS DISTRICT FIRE CHIEF AND DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF.

OKAY AND I ONLY HAD FOUR COUNTS, SO I KNEW I WAS MISSING ONE.

SO THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISTRICT INSTEAD OF DEPUTY. SO DISTRICT.

SO MY. COULD I SEE THE AGENDA REAL QUICK? SO BECAUSE I WAS JUST DOING SHORTHAND.

SO WE DID FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. WE DID FIRE CAPTAIN.

LET ME SEE. I'M TRYING. THAT WAS CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES.

I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S DISTRICT FIRE CHIEF.

FOR A SECOND, I THOUGHT MY HANDWRITING WAS SO AWFUL THAT.

BUT THIS SHOULD BE DEPUTY CHIEF. YEP. THANK YOU, SIR.

MAKE SURE. THIS DISTRICT FIRE CHIEF. OKAY.

THE RESULTS FOR DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF. 4 INDIVIDUALS PASSED.

NO INDIVIDUALS FAILED. NO. INDIVIDUALS DID NOT SHOW.

APOLOGIES. THEN I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL OF THEM.

DO I HAVE A MOTION IN CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEM 8? I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT TEST RESULTS FOR THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR, CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES, DISTRICT FIRE CHIEF, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF AND FIRE CAPTAIN.

MOTION BY MR. LEMING. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

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SECOND BY MR. RICKS. ANY OPPOSITION? NO OPPOSITION, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY, THEN. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND.

THEN I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO DEBATE AND QUESTIONS.

CONCERNING THE CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES. WE HAVE NO ACTIVE LIST.

THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WE ONLY HAD ONE TEST TAKER AND THEY DID NOT PASS.

OKAY. CAN WE CALL FOR THAT TEST TODAY? CHIEF, I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE.

YES, SIR. IF POSSIBLE, TO HELP WITH MOVING THE DEPARTMENT FORWARD.

KEEPING A WORKING TEST IS KEY. IS THAT CHIEF'S POSITION OF THAT DIVISION? MISS HARRIS, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE COULD NOT AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD THAT AND CALL FOR THAT EXAMINATION? AS FAR AS MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY REASON, BUT I WILL CALL AND VERIFY WHEN I GET BACK TO THE OFFICE.

BUT WE CAN ADD IT, AND THEN I'LL CALL AND VERIFY JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

[INAUDIBLE]. 20 DAYS. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WE WILL HAVE TO LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS.

WITH THE WAIVERS. SO YOU WANT TO POST IT WITH THE WAIVER? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO I'LL POST. THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO THAT LAST POST WITH WAIVER BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW. POST WITH WAIVER. CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES.

AND WHAT DO YOU WANT THE WAIVER TO BE? LOWER TO, IT STATES NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A CERTIFIED ASSISTANT CHIEF OF THE SPECIAL SERVICES DIVISION. I WOULD LIKE IT TO ADJUST TO ANY CERTIFIED POSITION OF THE FIRE SERVICE AND SUPPLIES TECHNICIAN, I BELIEVE IS THE CORRECT TITLE. ANY CERTIFIED POSITION.

ANYBODY CERTIFIED IN THAT POSITION OF FIRE SERVICES AND SUPPLY TECHNICIAN.

THAT'S JUST BRINGING IT DOWN TO THE NEXT RANK IN THAT DIVISION.

OKAY. OKAY. SO THEN I WILL HAVE TO. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FOR THIS FROM THE STATE.

SUPPOSED TO PUT A WAIVER. IN MY MEMORY WE HAVE TO DO THE WAIVER.

AND THAT COVERS US TO LOWER THE STANDARDS. OKAY, SO, YEAH.

WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING FOR THE DEPUTY CHIEFS, WHERE WE HAD TO LOWER IT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE UNCERTIFIED POSITION, SO. OKAY. SO WE CAN JUST WE WANT TO JUST ADD IT TO THE ONE WE, NUMBER 12.

PUT IT ON THE. WITH OTHER ONES WE'RE CALLING FOR.

YEAH. WE'LL SO I WON'T DO THAT JUST YET BECAUSE TECHNICALLY WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM 8 UNDER CONSIDERATION.

BUT AS WE WILL ABSOLUTELY ADD THAT CHIEF. AND IF WE NEED ANY MORE GUIDANCE, WHENEVER WE GET TO THAT POINT, I'LL ASK YOU TO COME BACK UP. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DEBATE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8? HEARING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR TO DEBATE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. AGENDA ITEM 8 CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM 9.

[9. Consider Motion to Review/ Accept Test Results in the Baton Rouge Police Department]

CONSIDER MOTION TO REVIEW/ACCEPT RESULTS IN THE BATON ROUGE IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE.

I'M SORRY. IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN II, POLICE CADET, POLICE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST. MISS HARRIS, I BELIEVE I HAVE THESE UP HERE.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHERS ANYWHERE ELSE? LET ME SEE.

CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES. NO, I HAVE THEM. THIS LETTER FROM THE OFFICE OF THE STATE EXAMINER LISTS CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES, POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN II, POLICE CADET AND.

ARMED POLICE. AND THAT WAS, ONE OF THESE IS FIRE.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THREW ME. THE POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN II, POLICE CADET AND POLICE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST I.

I REALIZED I WAS READING OFF FOUR ITEMS AND THERE WAS ONLY THREE ON THE AGENDA, FORGETTING THAT THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS UNDER FIRE.

OKAY. SO.

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THE RESULTS OF THE EXAMINATION FOR POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN II ARE THAT 2 INDIVIDUALS PASSED.

2 INDIVIDUALS DID NOT PASS. NO INDIVIDUALS DID NOT TAKE THE EXAM.

THE RESULTS OF THE EXAMINATION FOR POLICE CADET.

NO INDIVIDUALS PASSED. NO INDIVIDUALS DID NOT PASS.

1 INDIVIDUAL DID NOT SHOW.

THE RESULTS OF THE EXAMINATION FOR POLICE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST I ARE THAT 5 INDIVIDUALS PASSED.

2 INDIVIDUALS DID NOT PASS. 3 INDIVIDUALS DID NOT SHOW.

SO I DID SIMILARLY HAVE A QUESTION JUST BECAUSE IT'S MY FIRST TIME SEEING IT.

IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT, I WAS CURIOUS WHY ALL OF THE OTHERS HAD A FINAL GRADE LISTED.

THIS ONE ONLY HAD FINAL GRADES LISTED ON TWO AND DASHES FOR VETERAN PREFERENCE.

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY IT WAS REPORTED DIFFERENTLY, IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW.

THAT'S MY FIRST TIME SEEING IT TOO, SO I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, BUT. THEY DID GET A FINAL GRADE, RIGHT.

RIGHT. AND THE, AND THOSE BECAUSE EVERY OTHER ONE WE'VE LOOKED AT KIND OF HAS IT HAS A LISTING FOR A FINAL GRADE.

DO YOU HAPPEN, DOES ANYONE HAPPEN TO KNOW WHY THAT THAT MIGHT BE REPORTED THAT WAY? CHIEF KIMBLE. I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, SO.

AND AND FEEL FREE TO APPROACH THAT. YOU CAN SEE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHENEVER WE HAVE SEEN THESE RESULTS, YOU HAVE FINAL SCORES LISTED FOR EVERYONE.

AND IF THERE IS SOME VETERAN PREFERENCE, I ASSUME THAT WOULD BUMP THE SCORE. THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE I SAW WHERE THERE WAS NO FINAL SCORE LISTED FOR SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS, AND I WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS WHY THAT LOOKED DIFFERENT.

OKAY, I'LL HAVE TO CALL. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T.

YEAH OKAY. NO, I'VE NOT LOOKED AT AS MANY OF THESE AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE, BUT I'VE NOW LOOKED AT ENOUGH OF THEM THAT I REALIZE THAT THAT WAS UNUSUAL, BUT. WITH THAT SAID, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, MISS HARRIS, IS THAT ENOUGH TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT TO HOLD UP A BOARD VOTE OR NO? OKAY. THEN CONSIDERING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN II.

POLICE CADET AND POLICE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST I.

MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. LEMING. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10. CONSIDER A REQUEST FROM MICHAEL J.

[10. Consider a Request from Michael J. Kimble, Fire Chief, to rehire Kahri Wright who Resigned on December 2, 2024, for Personal Reasons.]

KIMBLE, FIRE CHIEF, TO REHIRE KAHRI WRIGHT WHO RESIGNED ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2024, FOR PERSONAL REASONS.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REHIRE KAHRI WRIGHT FOR THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

MOTION BY MR. LEMING. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. BERAUD. I'LL OPEN THIS FOR DEBATE BRIEFLY.

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CHIEF, IF YOU COULD JUST TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON ON THIS ONE. YES, SIR.

MR. WRIGHT RESIGNED FROM THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN GOOD STANDINGS FOR PERSONAL REASONS.

HE'S WITH, RECENTLY COME BACK WANTING TO COME BACK TO THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIM BACK WITHIN THE CITY.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. CHIEF, I APPRECIATE YOU. ANY OTHER DEBATE OR STATEMENTS FROM THE BOARD? HEARING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR TO DEBATE.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT. OR I APOLOGIZE TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST FROM CHIEF KIMBLE TO REHIRE KAHRI WRIGHT, WHO RESIGNED ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2024, FOR PERSONAL REASONS.

ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11. CONSIDER A REQUEST FROM THOMAS MORSE, JR., POLICE CHIEF TO REHIRE THE FOLLOWING FORMER POLICE OFFICERS.

[11. Consider a Request from Thomas Morse, Jr., Police Chief, to rehire the following former police officers]

CURTLAN WILLIAMS EMPLOYMENT ENDED ON MAY 18TH, 2024.

CAURTNAI HILL EMPLOYMENT ENDED ON JANUARY 1ST, 2024.

KOLLIN COX EMPLOYMENT ENDED ON OCTOBER 19TH, 2024.

JEFFERSON PENDERGRASS LEFT IN GOOD STANDING AND IS GOING THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS OF BACKGROUND CHECKS AND ORAL INTERVIEW.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO REHIRE CURTLAN WILLIAMS, CAURTNAI HILL, KOLLIN COX AND JEFFERSON PENDERGRASS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. SECOND BY MR. RICKS. I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DEBATE.

SIR, AND I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME AND RANK FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OH.

YOU'RE RETIRED. WE HAVE NO ONE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU WERE WEARING THE DARKER COLORS.

I JUST ASSUMED I WASN'T GETTING A GOOD LOOK AT YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY? SO I SEE THAT EMPLOYMENT ENDED ON SOME.

AND THEN THIS INDIVIDUAL IS ALREADY GOING THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS. IS THAT NORMAL, IS THAT UNUSUAL? NORMAL, ONCE THEY COME BACK THROUGH. OKAY. IT'S BEEN GOING A WHILE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG GOOD OFFICER.

OKAY. I DON'T THINK THE CHIEF'S GOING TO MAKE A BAD DECISION ON REHIRING.

I JUST WANT BECAUSE THE OTHERS SIMPLY HAD EMPLOYMENT ENDED, AND THIS ONE, AGAIN, WAS AN OUTLIER IN THE WAY IT WAS DESCRIBED.

I JUST WANTED TO CHECK WITH YOU, MR. BERAUD, TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY CONCERN OR WHETHER WE NEEDED ANY MORE INFORMATION.

I THINK, JOSH, THAT I MEAN, IF HE'S THE FIRE CHIEF, POLICE CHIEF, IF THEY HAVE, IF THEY'RE IN ON REHIRING SOMEONE, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT FOR US TO. I THINK THAT THEY HAVE DONE THE BACKGROUND AND THEY KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REASON TO QUESTION THAT, SO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DEBATE? HEARING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR TO DEBATE.

WE HAVE ON THE FLOOR THE MOTION, AS ALREADY READ, TO REHIRE THE LISTED POLICE OFFICERS.

ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 12, WHICH NOW NEEDS TO BE FURTHER AMENDED.

[Additional Item]

MISS HARRIS, DO YOU HAVE THE LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED TO AMEND ON THAT ONE? CONSIDER A MOTION TO CALL FOR. WHERE ARE WE? JUST SO I CAN.

WELL, I DON'T HAVE IT. OKAY. BECAUSE WE WEREN'T CALLING FOR ANY. YOU KNOW, I GOT YOU.

BUT IT'S CONSIDERED A MOTION TO CALL FOR APPLICATION.

CALL FOR EXAMS IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR CHIEF OF TRAINING, ASSISTANT CHIEF OF TRAINING.

I WAS ASKING THE. SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT AMENDMENT.

I WAS ASKING FOR THE. CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES.

IF WE NEEDED. AND WITH THE WAIVER. WHETHER WE NEEDED THAT OTHER.

FOR CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICE. I MEAN CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES, WITH THE WAIVER TO LOWER ANY CERTIFIED POSITION OF THE FIRE SERVICES AND SUPPLY TECHNICIAN. OKAY, THEN. THEN I, WELL, SO THIS IS CHIEF SPECIAL OFFICER. OR THE.

OKAY. OKAY. AND ARE THESE ALL FIRE OR POLICE OR.

I WAS MAKING SURE THIS IS ALL FIRE. OKAY. INCLUDING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONFIRMING. JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T. IT WOULDN'T BE CLEANER TO DO A SEPARATE MOTION.

YEAH, WE HAVE TO DO. THEN, MISS HARRIS, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I FUMBLE THIS WORDING A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE CHAIR MOVES TO AMEND AGENDA ITEM 12 TO ADD A CALL FOR EXAMINATION FOR CHIEF. WHAT WAS YOUR SPECIAL OFFICER?

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CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES. CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES.

I WAS READING THAT OFTEN, AND THEN IT VERY MUCH CONFUSED ME.

SO TO CALL FOR THE CALL FOR EXAMINATION FOR CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES AND TO INCLUDE IN THAT CALL A REQUEST FOR WAIVER TO LOWER THE QUALIFICATIONS TO ANY CERTIFIED POSITION OF THE FIRE AND SERVICES OR ANYONE CERTIFIED IN THE POSITION OF THE FIRE SERVICES AND SUPPLY TECHNICIAN.

CHIEF WAS THAT AT LEAST CLOSE ENOUGH? SO THE CHAIR SO MOVES.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY MISTER RICKS? ANY OPPOSITION TO AMENDING THE AGENDA ITEM AS READ.

HEARING NONE. THE MOTION TO AMEND CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM 12.

THE CHAIR MOVES TO CALL FOR THE EXAMINATION OF.

OH. CHIEF. YES. I JUST NEED A SHARED THROUGH THE VERBIAGE.

THIS WILL STILL ALLOW MY CERTIFIED ASSISTANT CHIEF TO RETAKE THE TEST, IS THAT CORRECT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THE VERBIAGE THAT YOU JUST STATED WAS THE CERTIFIED FIRE SERVICE SUPPLY TECHNICIAN.

I NEED TO ASSURE THAT ALSO, THE ASSISTANT CHIEF THAT'S IN THERE CURRENTLY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IT AGAIN.

SO SO THE WAY AND I'LL DEFER TO MISS HARRIS. IF I DIDN'T WORD IT THIS WAY, I BELIEVED I WAS WORDING IT IN THAT WE WERE SIMPLY INCLUDING A WAIVER TO REDUCE, BUT THAT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WOULD NOT UPSET ANY OF THE NORMAL ALLOWED QUALIFICATIONS.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. NO, CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING, BUT NO TO THE INTENT OF MY MOTION.

AND I BELIEVE THE WORDING OF MY MOTION WOULDN'T UPSET ANY NORMAL QUALIFICATIONS.

IT SIMPLY INCLUDES THE WAIVER TO INCLUDE WHAT I JUST READ AS AN ADDITIONAL QUALIFICATION, AND THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHIEF. PLEASE ALWAYS KEEP US HONEST.

SO, AND SO JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT THEN I'LL MOVE TO AMEND THE AGENDA AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S CRYSTAL CRISTAL CLEAR.

THAT. I'LL NEED MISS. I'LL NEED MISS HARRIS'S NOTES WHEN SHE'S DONE TAKING ADDITIONAL SO THAT THE CHAIR MOVES TO AMEND AGENDA ITEM 12 TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL CALL FOR EXAMINATION, FOR.

IT. IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN THAT.

YOU CAN TURN IT. SO THE POSTED EXAMINATION WILL BE FOR CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES, AND THAT POSTING WILL INCLUDE A WAIVER THAT WILL ALLOW PREVIOUSLY INELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS TO TAKE THE EXAM, AND THAT WAIVER WILL LOWER. THAT WAIVER WILL NOW ADD AS A POSSIBLE CERTIFICATION THE CERTIFICATION FOR FIRE SERVICES AND SUPPLY TECHNICIAN.

CHIEF, ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT. YES. THIS IS THE SAME THING.

RIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE THAT WE HAVE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE.

SO THAT IS THE CHAIR'S MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY MR. LEMING. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE, AGENDA ITEM 12 IS AMENDED. IN CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, WHICH IS A MOTION TO CALL FOR THE EXAMINATION AT FOR BATON ROUGE FIRE.

IF I COULD SEE THAT LIST TO CALL FOR CHIEF OF TRAINING, ASSISTANT CHIEF OF TRAINING, CHIEF INVESTIGATOR, CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, ASSISTANT CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, TRAINING OFFICER AND CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES. WITH WAIVER. WITH WAIVER. CHIEF OF [INAUDIBLE].

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CHIEF OF ARSON? ARSON? CHIEF, DID WE? YES. MR. RICKS. FIRE INVESTIGATOR. FIRE INVESTIGATOR. [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY. BECAUSE I'M. I'M GOING OFF OF. DID YOU SAY FIRE INVESTIGATOR OR CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR? IT SHOULD BE JUST CHIEF. INVESTIGATOR. IT SHOULD BE JUST CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR. OH, FIRE IS RIGHT HERE.

[INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW. LET ME JUST PUT YOU FIRE INVESTIGATOR.

NO, IT'S NOT CHIEF. OKAY. INVESTIGATOR. SO I KNEW I HAD NOT READ THE WORD ARSON AT ANY POINT.

SO AS SOON AS YOU ASKED, I WAS LIKE, NO, I KNOW THAT'S NOT IN THERE.

SO, FOR CLARITY, THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF TRAINING.

CHIEF, WOULD YOU JUST LIKE ME TO READ FROM THAT LIST AS PART OF AMENDING THE MOTION? BECAUSE THAT MIGHT. JUST TO MAKE SURE, RIGHT.

ASSISTANT CHIEF. WE HAVE THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF TRAINING, CHIEF OF TRAINING, CHIEF OF INVESTIGATIONS, THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF COMMUNICATIONS, THE CHIEF OF COMMUNICATIONS, AND THEN THE.

AND THEN THE AMENDED. AND THEN THE AMENDED. AND.

CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES AND THEN TRAINING OFFICER.

COULD MISS HARRIS BORROW THAT FOR A MOMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY AND ALL LANGUAGE.

OH. MIKE, YOU GOT IT. [INAUDIBLE]. I GOT YOU.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S THIS IS WHAT I WROTE THIS MORNING, BUT IT WASN'T THE SAME.

OKAY, SO CHIEF OF TRAINING, ASSISTANT CHIEF OF TRAINING, CHIEF INVESTIGATOR.

I THINK THAT'S IT. DO WE NEED CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR THERE? CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR, THAT'S FIRE. CHIEF OF COMMUNICATIONS.

COMMUNICATIONS. ASSISTANT CHIEF OF COMMUNICATIONS.

OKAY. TRAINING OFFICER. CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES.

OKAY. SO THIS. NEEDS. FIRE. AND WE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO AMEND THE MOTION.

I BELIEVE WE ALREADY HAVE IT IN BUT IN READING THE MOTION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M READING IT CORRECTLY.

AND THEN AGAIN, SOMEONE PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I BELIEVE THAT AGENDA ITEM READS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING A MOTION TO CALL FOR THE EXAMINATION AT THE REQUEST OF BATON ROUGE FIRE FOR CHIEF OF TRAINING, ASSISTANT CHIEF OF TRAINING, CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR, CHIEF OF COMMUNICATIONS, ASSISTANT CHIEF OF COMMUNICATIONS, TRAINING OFFICER, CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES.

I BELIEVE. IS EVERYONE? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. SPECIAL SERVICES WITH WAIVER.

WITH THE WAIVER AS. ANY CERTIFIED POSITION OF THE FIRE SERVICES SUPPLY TECHNICIAN OR HOWEVER YOU WROTE IT.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THE WAY YOU HAVE IT. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? MR. RICKS SECONDS. ANY. I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DEBATE BRIEFLY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CLARIFICATION OR ANYTHING THEY NEED TO ADD.

HEARING NONE. CLOSE THE FLOOR FOR DEBATE. ANY OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR? HEARING NONE. AGENDA ITEM 12 CARRY. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE ADDED? ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO ADDRESS? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM.

MISS HARRIS, IS THAT CORRECT? I KNOW IT'S BEEN A BIT OF A MESS.

YEAH, THAT WAS IT. NOW IT'S JUST TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT.

YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND WORKING THROUGH EVERYTHING.

THEN MOTION FROM THE CHAIR TO ADJOURN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WHO DID THE SECOND? I. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY BOTH MR. RICKS AND MR. LEMING, BUT MR. LEMING WAS LOUDER.

SO HE WHO IS LOUDER WINS. SECOND FROM MR. LEMING.

ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES.

MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.