[1. Roll Call] [00:00:03] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GAVELING US IN TO THE NOVEMBER 24TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING OF THE BATON ROUGE METROPOLITAN FIRE AND POLICE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD. MS. HARRIS, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL. YES, MR. MICHAEL LEMING. PRESENT. MR. EDWIN BERAUD. PRESENT. MR. BRADLEY RICKS. PRESENT. MR. JOSHUA NEWVILLE. PRESENT. YOU HAVE A QUORUM? DID WE CALL MR. STERLING? OH, MR. TODD STERLING. YOU HAVE A QUORUM? THANK YOU, MS. HARRIS. AS PART OF AGENDA ITEM 1, I OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE, THE FLOOR IS CLOSED TO PUBLIC COMMENT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. [2. Consider Motion to Approve Agenda.] HAS EVERYONE HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AGENDA THIS MORNING? YES. IS THERE ANY NEED FOR AMENDMENTS? NO. THEN CAN I HAVE A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SECOND MOTION BY MR. LEMMING. SECOND. MR. BERAUD, ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE. [3. Consider Motion to Approve Minutes from: • October 27, 2025] MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 27TH, 2025. HAVE ALL BOARD MEMBERS RECEIVED A COPY AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 27TH, 2025? YES. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY NEED FOR AMENDMENTS TO THOSE MINUTES? I DO NOT. THEN DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 27TH, 2025. MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND BY MR. RICKS. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES AGENDA ITEM 4. [4. Consider Motion to Approve or Reject Personnel Action Forms in the Baton Rouge Fire and Police Departments.] CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT PERSONAL ACTION FORMS IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS. HAVE WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE, MR. LEMING? YES, I HAVE REVIEWED THE FIRE. IS THERE ANY NEED FOR DISCUSSION OR DEBATE? MR [INAUDIBLE] OH, NO. ALL RIGHT THEN. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS FOR BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT. DO YOU WANT TO DO |OLICE? OH, I APOLOGIZE. THEY ARE AS PART OF 1 MOTION, THEN. YES. THEN THE THE AGENDA ITEM BEFORE THE BOARD IS TO CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE OR REJECT PERSONNEL ACTION FORMS IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS. BOTH. CORRECT. AND SO YOU SO MOVE. I SO MOVE. MOTION BY MR. LEMING. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. BERAUD. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM 5. CONSIDER MOTION TO CALL FOR EXAMINATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT. [5. Consider Motion to Call for Examinations in the Baton Rouge Police Department for: • Police Criminal Information Specialist I • Police Cadet] FOR |OLICE, CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST 1 AND POLICE CADET. ANY DISCUSSION OR DEBATE NEEDED. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CALL FOR THE EXAMINATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR POLICE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SPECIALIST 1 AND POLICE CADET MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY MR. RICKS. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM 6. CONSIDER MOTION TO REVIEW/ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR POLICE COMMUNICATIONS SUPERVISOR [6. Consider Motion to Review/ Accept Applications in the Baton Rouge Police Department for: • Police Communications Supervisor] ANY NEED FOR DEBATE OR DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE THEN? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR POLICE COMMUNICATION SUPERVISOR. MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. LEMMING? ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES AGENDA ITEM 7. [7. Consider Motion to Review/ Accept Applications in the Baton Rouge Fire Department for: • Assistant Chief Fire Communications Officer • Chief Training Officer • Assistant Chief Training Officer • Training Officer • Chief Fire Investigator • Chief Fire Communications Officer • Chief of Special Services] CONSIDER MOTION TO REVIEW. ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IN THE BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ASSISTANT CHIEF, FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, CHIEF TRAINING OFFICER, ASSISTANT CHIEF TRAINING OFFICER, TRAINING OFFICER, CHIEF FIRE INVESTIGATOR, CHIEF FIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER AND CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I SO MOVE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MR. LEMMING. I'LL SECOND THAT. MR. RICKS. SECONDS. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. 4-1. SO, YES. AFTER MUCH CONSTERNATION, I BELIEVE WE HAD, WHENEVER WE WERE FINALIZING THE MINUTES. THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS ON THE SUBJECT IN 3 SEPARATE VOTES. WE DID ULTIMATELY GET WHAT WE NEEDED. AND MS. HARRIS DID WE DID WE HAVE ANY ISSUES IN ON THE SUBJECT OF THE. [00:05:07] CHIEF OF SPECIAL SERVICES WITH THE WAIVER THAT AS WE WORDED IT AND EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING WAS OKAY. YEAH, IT WAS APPROVED THAT WAY. IT WAS APPROVED THAT WAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM 8 CONSIDER MOTION TO GRANT BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S REQUEST TO RENEW THE PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT FOR TAKIYAH BEARD. [8. Consider Motion to Grant Baton Rouge Police Department's Request to Renew the Provisional Appointment for Takiyah Beard, Police Fingerprint Technician I.] POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN 1. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RENEW THE PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT FOR TAKIYAH BEARD AS POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN 1. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GET THE MOTION FOR DEBATE. GO FROM THERE. MOTION BY MR. BERAUD. I SECOND. SECOND BY MR. LEMMING. I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO DEBATE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED. SO IN EVERYONE'S ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS PACKETS, WE HAVE A LETTER FROM CHIEF MORSE. ESSENTIALLY, OUR SITUATION IS THAT THERE WAS A PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT. OR AN INTERIM. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M USING THE CORRECT LANGUAGE. PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT? FOR 90 DAYS. THAT EXPIRED ON SEPTEMBER 15TH. WITHOUT ANYONE REALIZING IT. IT WAS DISCOVERED LATER. AND SO THERE IS A BIT OF A JOINT REQUEST THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PARSE. WE HAVE KIND OF 2 ISSUES IN FRONT OF US. THE 1ST ISSUE IS THAT THERE'S CURRENTLY NO PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. HOWEVER, IF WE WERE TO DO AND AND THE CHIEF ALSO NEEDS ANOTHER PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT GOING FORWARD, THE MILD COMPLICATION IS THAT IF WE DID A SECOND 90 DAY PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT, THAT WOULD GET US TO DECEMBER 14TH. WE ARE CURRENTLY NOT SCHEDULED TO HAVE A DECEMBER MEETING, AND SO WE WOULD BE IN A POSITION WHERE THE 2ND PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT WOULD LIKEWISE BE EXPIRING. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS. IF THE BOARD DECIDES THAT WE WANT TO GRANT ALL OF THESE PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENTS, AND AT THIS MOMENT, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT. AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, THOUGH, I WILL DEFER TO ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS BETTER IDEAS. IS THAT OPTION NUMBER 1 IS TO DO ANOTHER 90 DAY PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT AND ADD TO OUR CALENDAR A DECEMBER MEETING. OPTION NUMBER 2 IS INSTEAD. AND AND THAT'S WHAT MR. DARROW WAS MAKING PHONE CALLS ABOUT TO FIGURE OUT LEGALLY, THAT WE DON'T VIOLATE ANY STATUTES IN THE WAY WE DO THAT, BECAUSE THE STATUTE SAYS WE CAN'T DO A PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT FOR LONGER THAN 90 DAYS. WE CAN DO SUBSEQUENT. WE JUST CAN'T DO MORE THAN 90 AT ONE TIME. BECAUSE THE EASY SOLUTION IS JUST TO DO 120 DAY APPOINTMENT AND WE ALL MOVE ON WITH LIFE. BUT THAT'S THE ONE THING WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO DO. AND SO OPTION NUMBER 2, I BELIEVE, IS TO DO A 60 DAY PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT, CHIEF, AND LET ME KNOW IF THIS WOULD OR. I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE CHIEF MORSE HERE, I GLANCED UP. OH, YOU ARE HERE FOR CHIEF MORSE. AWESOME. SO, OPTION NUMBER 2, IF YOU GUYS DON'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD CAUSE YOU ISSUES, BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A SITUATION WHERE AN APPOINTMENT HAS ALREADY EXPIRED, WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE, INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO DO EITHER AN ILLEGALLY LONG APPOINTMENT, WHICH WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO DO, OR HAVING TO DO A MEETING IN DECEMBER. BECAUSE WHAT THE SECOND THING I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN DO IS DO BACK TO BACK EXISTING APPOINTMENTS, BECAUSE THEN THAT GETS US OVER THE 90 DAYS. AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD VIOLATE THE STATUTE. WHAT I WOULD BE INCLINED TO PROPOSE IS TO DO FOR THE 2ND PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT, DO THAT FOR 60 DAYS, WHICH WOULD HAVE US EXPIRE ON NOVEMBER 14TH, WHICH THEN HAS US IN A POSITION TO DO A SUBSEQUENT 60 OR 90 DAY PROVISIONAL, WHICH THEN GETS US INTO NEXT YEAR. DO YOU SEE ANY REASON WHY THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU GUYS ANY ISSUES? AND MAKE SURE IT'S TURNED ON IT. MAKE SURE THE LIGHT IS ON. GOOD MORNING. I'M DEPUTY CHIEF SHARON DOUGLAS, REPRESENTING CHIEF MORES. I DON'T FORESEE ANY ISSUE WITH DOING WHAT YOU PROPOSED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET HER TO WHERE SHE COULD START BEGINNING, GAINING HER SENIORITY? ABSOLUTELY NO. WHENEVER WE LOOKED AT THE LETTER, THE LETTER. RATHER, I HAD TO READ IT TWICE TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE SITUATION. ONCE I DID, EVERY SOLUTION THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD WAS ILLEGAL UNDER THIS STATUTE. [00:10:02] KIND OF, EXCEPT FOR THIS. AND THOUGH IT WAS JUST AN IDEA, WE WE DID MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS. AND AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T DO THAT IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE CAN DO A PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT, KIND OF GOING BACKWARDS TO, TO COVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO IT. IF ANYONE COMES AND TELLS US THAT WE MADE A MISTAKE, WE'LL DEAL WITH IT. BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO A 60 DAY, WHICH TERMINATED ON NOVEMBER 14TH, AND THEN DO ANOTHER 90 DAY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER JANUARY WILL TERMINATE FEBRUARY 14TH. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHTS. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL WORK. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN THE JANUARY MEETING WOULD BE. SO IN JANUARY. MEETINGS CAN BE COMPLICATED, AND WE LIKELY HAVE MAJOR HEARINGS GOING ON. AND SO THAT WOULD BE COMPLICATED AS WELL. AND SO A 90 DAY WOULD GET US INTO FEBRUARY. AND THAT MIGHT JUST BE SIMPLER AND EASIER FOR EVERYONE. YES. THANK YOU. PERFECT. THE LETTER OKAY. TAKE YOUR TIME WITH IT. I GUESS EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S COMPLICATED. IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, PLEASE. WHO WAS THE DEAD PERIOD BETWEEN THE 14TH AND TODAY? THE TEN DAYS. CAN YOU DO A 70 DAY APPOINTMENT? SO THE. MY THOUGHT IS THAT THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL APPOINTMENT, WHICH IN THE ORIGINAL 90 DAY PROVISIONAL, WHICH ENDED IN MID SEPTEMBER. I SEE WHAT HE'S SAYING THOUGH. WHAT HE'S SAYING. WHY DON'T JUST DO 70. SO IT ENDS TODAY. THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE THE OF A TEN DAY DEAD PERIOD. PERFECT. YEAH. NO. ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. THEN. AND WE'LL WE'LL TREAT IT AS AS 2 SEPARATE MOTIONS JUST SO EVERYTHING IS NICE AND CLEAN. SO DO WE NEED TO LOOK UP WHETHER IT WOULD BE EXACTLY 70 DAYS, OR DO WE JUST WANT TO DO TO A DATE, OR. I'LL DEFER TO YOU ON THAT. YOU COULD BASICALLY DO FROM THE 2 DATES. THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY MATH. I THINK THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. OKAY. THEN. THAT WOULD BE FROM. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO THE 1ST 1 EXPIRED ON THE 15TH. SO I THINK CAN SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG? IT WOULD BE FROM THE 15TH TO TODAY. THE 24TH. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TO EVERYONE? WORKS. MAYOR DEPUTY CHIEF WAS THAT I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR TITLE. IS IT DEPUTY? DEPUTY CHIEF? DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? SO THE THE THE 2ND PROVISIONAL WOULD START ON THE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE RUN THROUGH THE 14TH. IT WOULD START ON THE 15TH. OKAY. OKAY. SO THEN IT WOULD I WOULD STILL START ON THE 5TH BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A MATERIAL DIFFERENCE JUST TO BE SAFE. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE COULD START ON THE 15TH. HAVE IT EXPIRE TODAY. TODAY. SO THE 24TH OF NOVEMBER 15TH OF SEPTEMBER OKAY. 90 DAYS FROM TODAY IS FEBRUARY 22ND, 2026. OKAY. SO THAT'LL THAT'LL BE FOR OUR. WE PUT THIS RIGHT AT THE MEETING DATE TOO. YEAH. YEAH. FOR A SECOND. YEAH. IT'D BE RIGHT BEFORE. SO THAT WOULD WORK. COOL. OKAY. SO I WILL OFFER A A SUBSIDIARY MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ACTUALLY. THAT'LL GET COMPLICATED. DO YOU GUYS JUST WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION, AND WE'LL JUST DO A FRESH MOTION FROM THERE? YEAH. OKAY, THEN WHOEVER MR. BERAUD. ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION FROM AGENDA ITEM 8. ALL THEN, CONCERNING AGENDA ITEM 8 FOR HIM TO WITHDRAW HIS OWN MOTION. NO. BUT WE, WE DEFINITELY DO NEED MINUTE ENTRIES FOR THE INITIAL 2 AND THEN THE WITHDRAWAL. [00:15:02] SO CONSIDERING IN CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEM 8 THE CHAIR MOVES TO RENEW THE PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT FOR TAKIYAH BEARD. POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN 1. STARTING ON SEPTEMBER 15TH 2025 ENDING ON NOVEMBER 24TH OF 2025. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY MR. BERAUD. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION CARRIES. STILL IN CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEM 8, THE CHAIR MOVES. TO RENEW THE PROVISIONAL APPOINTMENT FOR TAKIYAH BEARD. POLICE FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN 1. FOR 90 DAYS FROM TODAY'S DATE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT, AS OPPOSED TO DOING A NEW SET OF DATES. NO WORRIES. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? SECOND BY MR. BERAUD. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM 9. CONSIDER MOTION TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON BEHALF OF BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR PROPOSED CLASSIFICATION CHANGES [9. Consider Motion to Conduct a Public Hearing on Behalf of BRFD for Proposed Classification Changes for the Following Positions: • Firefighter • Fire Equipment Operator • Fire Captain] FOR THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS. FIREFIGHTER. FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. FIRE CAPTAIN. I WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR DEBATE AFTER. BUT DO I HAVE A MOTION? I SO MOVE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MR. LEMMING. DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY MR. BERAUD? I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DEBATE. CHIEF, IF YOU WANT TO COME TALK TO US FOR A SECOND ABOUT WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON HERE. THAT'S CONCERNING WHAT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. AND OPEN IN 30 DAYS. CORRECT. FOR THE CLASSIFICATION PLAN. RIGHT. CORRECT. YES. I THINK THEY JUST WANT A PREVIEW OF KIND OF WHAT WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF IN THE CLASSIFICATION CHANGES. YES, SIR. AND OUR CLASSIFICATION PLANS FOR OUR FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATORS AND OUR FIRE, OUR CAPTAINS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE CLASSIFICATION PLANS, ONE PERTAINING TO A VERBIAGE CHANGE OF MAINTAINING THEIR EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN. THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, WHICH WILL TAKE OUT SOME DATES. THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION WITH THE OFFICER STATE EXAMINERS OF TAKING DATES OUT OF OF THE CLASSIFICATION PLANS TO TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP UNDER THE FIREFIGHTER SPOT, FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR AND FIRE CAPTAIN FOR EMT. BUT FOR OUR FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR AND FIRE CAPTAIN, WE'RE LOOKING TO DISCUSS A CHANGE IN THE CLASSIFICATION PLAN TO ADD NATIONAL CERTIFICATIONS TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BE CONFIRMED IN THOSE POSITIONS. OKAY. BECAUSE WHENEVER I. AND I ALWAYS GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. BUT WHENEVER I FIRST LOOKED AT THE DRAFT, I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF, WAIT, I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE, EMT AND FIRE. WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE FORCING PEOPLE, BUT ONCE I TOOK A SECOND LOOK AT IT, IT IT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ADDING ANYTHING NEW. IT'S JUST KIND OF CLEANING UP AND STREAMLINING IT A LITTLE BIT. YES, SIR. IT IS CLEANING UP AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT CHANGE THAT YOU MADE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ON MY POSITION. OKAY. THANK YOU CHIEF. YES, SIR. DO ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. QUICK QUESTION. CHIEF. YES, SIR. SO UNDER THE FIREFIGHTER IS MARKED OUT, IT SAYS THE FIREFIGHTER MUST ATTAIN AND MAINTAIN NATIONAL AND STATE EMT CERTIFICATION. YES, SIR. AND THEN IT SAYS INITIAL TRAINING FOR THIS REQUIREMENT SHALL BE SHALL BE INCLUDED ON THE FIRE ON THE JOB, ROOKIE FIREFIGHTER TRAINING. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MARKED OUT. SO SO IS THAT TRAINING STILL GOING TO TAKE PLACE. THAT IS CORRECT SIR. IT WAS JUST WHAT WE TOOK OUT FOR THE MOST PART, MR. RICKS, WAS THOSE DATES OF HOW THE DEPARTMENT AT 1 POINT AND MADE IT MANDATORY. THEN THEY DIDN'T. THEN THEY WENT BACK TO IT, JUST CLEANING UP THAT VERBIAGE WHICH WERE WHICH WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THE STATE EXAMINER TO CHANGE THAT VERBIAGE. AND, CHIEF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. SO AND IT'S HARD BECAUSE OUR OURS IS NOT IN COLOR, BUT BEING USED TO LOOKING AT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES WHEN THEY'RE MARKUP. MR. RICKS SO AND CHIEF, AGAIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YOU HAVE THE KIND OF IN NORMAL BLACK AS A CONDITION AND THEN IN THAT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LOOKING FONT, NATIONAL AND STATE EMT CERTIFICATION, I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE IN A DIFFERENT COLOR TO SHOW THAT THAT WAS AN ADDITION. IS THAT CORRECT, CHIEF? YES, SIR. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BLACKED. AND IF IT WAS IN RED WITH THE LINES, WHAT WE WANT TO TAKE OUT. RIGHT. IT WAS A YELLOW HIGHLIGHT FOR THE CHANGE WE WANTED TO ADD. SO, YEAH, THE NATIONAL AND STATE EMT CERTIFICATION IS WHAT THEY'RE ADDING. AND THEN WHAT'S CROSSED OUT IS WHAT THEY'RE REMOVING. IT'S JUST NOT SUPER CLEAR BECAUSE OURS IS IN BLACK [00:20:06] AND WHITE. SO YOU DON'T GET THAT REALLY GOOD RED MARKUP. AND THEN YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY. YES, SIR. UNDERSTAND MR. RICK'S ANYTHING ELSE? NO. GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? NO. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO, IN LIGHT OF THAT, THE CHAIR MOVES TO WELL, THE MOTION IS ALREADY ON THE FLOOR. I JUST HAVE TO VOTE, I THINK. RIGHT? CORRECT. CORRECT, CORRECT. AND SO THIS IS FOR. THANK YOU. THIS THIS IS SETTING FOR A FUTURE PUBLIC HEARING. CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND THEN SO THE THE MOTION WE HAVE ON THE FLOOR IS TO CONSIDER A MOTION TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON BEHALF OF BATON ROUGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR PROPOSED CLASSIFICATION CHANGES FOR THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS. FIRE. FIRE. FIREFIGHTER. FIRE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. FIRE CAPTAIN. IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM 10. CONSIDER A MOTION TO DISCUSS AND ESTABLISH THE DATES FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR. [10. Consider a Motion to Discuss and Establish the Dates for the 2026 Calendar.] SO I'LL OPEN THIS UP FOR DEBATE AND DISCUSSION AS WELL. BUT THE CHAIR MOVES TO TO DISCUSS AND ESTABLISH THE DATES FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. BY MR. RICKS. OKAY, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DEBATE AND DISCUSSION ON THIS 1. THIS WAS THIS HAD A FEW DIFFERENT FACETS. SO THE THE METRO COUNCIL REACHED OUT TO US, LETTING US KNOW THAT A COUPLE OF THE DATES THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED EARLY NEXT YEAR, PARTICULARLY SOME MAJOR HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED LIKE ONE OF THEM THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED OVER 2 DAYS, IT WAS GOING TO BE A 2O DAY HEARING IN A ROW. THERE IS A COMMITTEE THAT TAKES SCHEDULING PRECEDENCE OVER US, AND THEY ARE ALREADY SET FOR THOSE DAYS. AND SO WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO RESCHEDULE. MS. HARRIS, WAS IT JANUARY? I THINK IT WAS 2 DATES IN JANUARY AND ONE DATE IN FEBRUARY. AM I REMEMBERING THAT? CORRECT. FEBRUARY, REMEMBER? SO THAT DID SETTLE. YEAH, IT ENDED UP SETTLING. THAT WAS THE ONE THAT. YEAH, THAT WAS ERIC REINHARDT OR SOMETHING. OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE 26. AND SO WE STILL HAVE SOMETHING ON THE 23RD. I DON'T KNOW. THOSE ARE THE DATES THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE. JUST THE ROOM. YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. NO. SO WHAT WHAT I. MR. DARROW WAS REMINDING ME THAT WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY SET FOR JANUARY HAS SETTLED. BUT I ASSUME OUR OUR MEETING FOR THE. REGARDLESS, WE STILL HAVE MEETINGS SET FOR THOSE DAYS. AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE HEARINGS IS IS FRANKLY, SUPERFLUOUS. SO THAT'S ME WITH UNNECESSARY DETAIL. OUR JANUARY 26TH AND FEBRUARY 23RD DATES ARE NOT AVAILABLE BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT WITH A COMMITTEE THAT NEEDS THIS ROOM. AND SO WE WERE GOING TO BE IN A POSITION TO NEED TO RESCHEDULE THOSE DATES ANYWAY. HOWEVER, AS IS SHOWN BY MR. STERLING NOT BEING ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER, MR. STERLING, HAS KIND OF AN ONGOING CONFLICT DURING THIS TIME ON MONDAYS. NOT ALL YEAR, BUT FOR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE YEAR. AND SO I THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT OFFER US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT CALENDAR. SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT LITERALLY ONE MAN DOWN ANY TIME OUT, BECAUSE HIS CONFLICT STARTS AT NOON. AND SO WE'D HAVE HIM FOR AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY MEETING. AND SO FOR EVERY HEARING THAT WE HAD, HE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THOSE HEARINGS. AND SO I REACHED OUT TO THE METRO COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF RECURRING DATES THEY HAD AVAILABLE. THEY SAID THURSDAYS GENERALLY ARE PRETTY WIDE OPEN. I, IN GIVING THOUGHT TO WHEN HOLIDAYS TEND TO BE, YOU KNOW, THEY TEND TO BE KIND OF AT THE END OF MONTHS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE LAST TWO THURSDAYS I THOUGHT WE SHOULD PROBABLY AVOID, BUT MAYBE KIND OF THE SECOND TO THE SECOND THURSDAY RATHER MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT. AND SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THAT. YEAH. SO I JUST RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT THE CONCERN IS WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE OUR WHOLE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS FOR ONE PERSON. IF THAT PERSON CAN'T COMMIT TO THAT, MAYBE THEY SHOULD ELECT ANOTHER PERSON. NUMBER 1. NUMBER 2 IS YOU KNOW, THE THURSDAYS IF IF ANY OF US TRAVEL, IT'S USUALLY TRAVELING, AND I TRAVEL A LOT. IT'S ON THURSDAYS, FRIDAYS, SATURDAYS, SUNDAYS. SO MONDAYS ARE ACTUALLY BETTER DAYS IN THE WEEK THAN THURSDAYS FOR ME PERSONALLY. BUT THERE AGAIN I MEAN, WE'LL I'LL GO WITH WHAT THIS BOARD DECIDES, BUT YOU KNOW I MEAN, I HATE TO CHANGE THE WHOLE PROGRAM FOR 1 PERSON. [00:25:07] AND SO LET ME SAY THIS WHILE AND THIS IS NO ASPERSION AGAINST MR. STERLING, HE SEEMS DELIGHTFUL. BUT I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH HIM PRIOR TO HIM ACCEPTING THE APPOINTMENT. WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S THAT'S MORE WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE AT THIS POINT. HE'S BEEN APPOINTED BY THE METRO COUNCIL LIKE THAT. THAT WHOLE PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO START OVER AT THIS POINT. AND SO CERTAINLY I THINK THERE IS MERIT TO OUR COMMUNICATING WITH ANY OF THE APPOINTING AGENCIES, WHETHER IT'S SOUTHERN OR LSU OR METRO COUNCIL OR ANYONE ELSE, TO BEFORE THEY PUT SOMEONE UP FOR A VOTE, THAT THEY TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT OUR CURRENT CALENDAR IS AND WHETHER THAT WORKS FOR THEM. BECAUSE I SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG, I DON'T RECALL ANYONE ASKING ME ABOUT MY AVAILABILITY ON MONDAY MORNINGS. AND IT WAS JUST I WAS TOLD WHAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AFTER AFTER I ACCEPTED THE APPOINTMENT. UNFORTUNATELY, FORTUNATELY FOR ME, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONFLICT. UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM, HE HAS A VERY RIGID CONFLICT THAT HE CAN'T GET OUT OF. HE HAS A RECURRING OBLIGATION FOR ABOUT HALF THE YEAR. AT NOON ON MONDAYS. AND SO, MR. RICKS, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF SHIFTING BECAUSE OF 1 PERSON. HOWEVER, AGAIN, I, I IMAGINE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT THE WHEELS THAT HAVE TO GO INTO MOTION FOR MAKING THESE APPOINTMENTS AND SO I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE UNDUE STRAIN FOR ANYONE. AND UNLESS I READ IT WRONG, THE INITIAL EMAIL, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT THE COUNCIL HAD AN ISSUE WITH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR, OUR MONDAY ISSUE. THAT'S OUR ISSUE. LET ME REPHRASE THE ISSUE WITH THE 1ST 2 DATES OF THE YEAR ARE OUR METRO COUNCIL ISSUES. OKAY. THEY NEED TO BE RESCHEDULED REGARDLESS. REGARDLESS. THAT AND THE THE SCHEDULING ISSUE, I, I WAS THE ONE WHO WHO NOTARIZED HIS OATH THAT YOU KNOW THAT. AND SO WHENEVER WE TALKED LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS WHEN THIS MEETING IS THAT IS WHEN I WAS MADE AWARE OF THAT HE HAS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT ON THAT DATE. AND SO THAT IS WHY I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD TO SEE IF THERE WAS AN APPETITE TOWARDS RESCHEDULING. AND I'M, I'M PROPOSING THURSDAY'S KIND OF IN A VACUUM. JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. WE COULD ALSO JUST TABLE THIS FOR ANOTHER MEETING. AND I CAN GO BACK TO THE METRO COUNCIL, TRY TO GET A MORE EXHAUSTIVE RUN OF DATES THAT THEY HAVE THAT ARE RECURRING. BUT I AT LEAST WANTED TO TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO IT. WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER WHO'S FUNCTIONALLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IF ON FOR AGAIN, ABOUT HALF THE YEAR. IT'S IT'S KIND OF THE LEADING UP TO THE FALL AND KIND OF THROUGH THE FALL. EARLY WINTER IS HIS CONFLICT THE REST OF THE YEAR HE'S OKAY, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY 5 OR 6 MEETINGS A YEAR THAT HE SIMPLY WON'T BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN. AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T ME SAYING THAT I'M HAPPY ABOUT BEING IN THIS POSITION, BUT I'M ALSO APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT THE, YOU KNOW, SOUTHERN HAS TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT. THE COMMITTEE OR THE METRO COUNCIL HAS TO READ IT INTO THE AGENDA, SET IT INTO THE AGENDA, THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING, DO A VOTE. AND THAT'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS FOR TO JUST COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, YOU SHOULD HAVE COORDINATED WITH US ON SCHEDULING. CERTAINLY A CONVERSATION I WANT TO HAVE WITH THEM BEFORE ANYONE ELSE IS APPOINTED IN THE FUTURE. BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO, TOO DIFFICULT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND KIND OF YOUR SECONDARY OF THURSDAY BEING A POTENTIAL DATE. THE THE FLIP SIDE TO THAT IS MONDAYS ARE ROUTINE HOLIDAYS. WE, YOU KNOW, WE ROUTINELY HAVE TO TO PUSH MONDAY DATES. AND MONDAYS ARE IN THE SAME WAY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE TRAVEL ON THURSDAYS. A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF DO LONG WEEKENDS INTO MONDAYS. I THINK IT'S KIND OF A 6 IN 1 HAND, HALF A DOZEN IN THE OTHER, VERY KIND OF 2 PERSON TO PERSON. BUT I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR DOG IN THIS HUNT. MONDAYS OR THURSDAYS ARE NOT BETTER OR WORSE FOR ME. WEDNESDAYS AS A CATEGORICAL TEND TO BE BAD FOR ME, BUT BEYOND THAT, I'M KIND OF WIDE OPEN. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK AVOIDING RECURRING DATES AT THE END OF MONTHS BECAUSE OF THE WAY HOLIDAY SCHEDULES TEND TO WORK. YOU KNOW, WE MAY WANT TO AVOID THOSE, BUT THAT'S A LONG WINDED WAY OF SAYING WE NEED TO. AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, SCHEDULE JANUARY, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WE NEED TO FINALIZE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THE ENTIRE YEAR, [00:30:06] OR IF WE COULD REVISIT THE REST OF THE YEAR COME JANUARY. I THINK HISTORICALLY. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. AND I KNOW IT. IT IS. IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHETHER IT HAS TO BE LIKE, I KNOW WE NEED TO RESCHEDULE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT AND I IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE HAVE OUR WHOLE CALENDAR TODAY. BUT IF WE IF EVERYONE NEEDS TO REGROUP AND GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT, AND I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE METRO COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT MORE DATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WHAT IS THE DEAL BREAKER OF WHAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY VERSUS WHAT WOULD BE NICE FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY, AND WHAT COULD WE THEN REVISIT IN JANUARY? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. I DON'T THINK THE CIVIL SERVICE RULE THAT MAKES US HAVE TO PUT OUT THE LIST. IT MIGHT BE LIKE A LOCAL RULE. OKAY, FOR BOARDS AND WHATNOT, BUT I'M NOT 100% SURE THERE. OKAY. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS WITH THE CONFLICT. IS IT EVERY MONDAY THAT HE HAS THE CONFLICT AT NOON. YES. AND THEN HOW LONG IS THIS CONFLICT? AT NOON. IS IT LIKE 12 THE REST OF THE DAY, OR IS IT JUST. SO IT IT'S NOTHING PARTICULARLY PRIVATE. I JUST DON'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT IT. THE TIMING I DON'T KNOW, HE HE DOES. IT'S A, A MEDIA LIKE PODCAST THEN SO I, I ASSUME FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR OR 2. THAT'S THE WAY THOSE IF NOT A LITTLE BIT LONGER. BUT I DON'T HAVE A HARD ANSWER ON EXACTLY HOW LONG IT IS. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. HE JUST HE JUST KIND OF MADE IT SOUND LIKE COME NOON, HE WAS KIND OF WIPED FOR THE REST. SO IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND, I CAN PROBABLY FIND THE PODCAST AND SEE HOW LONG IT NORMALLY RUNS. BUT I JUST OFF THE CUFF. I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER. WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I THINK WHAT I WAS HEARING FROM YOU IS THAT ESSENTIALLY. OTHERWISE, WE'D HAVE THEM FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. AND MOST OF OUR MEETINGS ARE NO LONGER THAN 20-30 MINUTES ANYWAY. WELL, ON IN THAT VEIN, I WAS ALSO GOING TO ASK EVERYONE IF THE CURRENT START TIME IS WORKING FOR EVERYONE, OR IF EARLIER OR LATER OR LATER WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM. BUT DURING THIS CONVERSATION, I COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT I WAS ALSO GOING TO TOSS THAT OUT THERE AS WHETHER ANYONE HAD ANY ISSUES EITHER WAY. SO KIND OF IN THAT VEIN. SO YOU COULD ADJUST THE TIME. IT COULD BE A NON-ISSUE FOR MOST OF THE MEETINGS. AND THEN IT JUST IT'D BE MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS I WAS NEVER PARTICULARLY WORRIED ABOUT IT UNTIL WE SPLIT 2, 2. AND NOW I'VE GOT A CONCERN ABOUT LIKE IF WE IF ANYTIME WE HAVE A CONTENTIOUS HEARING THAT WE'RE GOING AT ONE MAN DOWN, YOU CAN START HEARING MEETINGS AT A DIFFERENT TIME. OKAY. AND SO TO THE EXTENT YOU HAVE 3 HEARINGS IN A YEAR, MAYBE 4 HEARINGS IN A YEAR, THOSE MEETINGS MAY JUST START AT 2:30, OR THEY MAY START AT 3. THAT'S FAIR. WE DEAL WITH IT THAT WAY. OR YOU START IN THE MORNING BREAK FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND COME BACK. I'VE SEEN ALL KINDS OF STUFF DONE. SO THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP US WITH THE FACT THAT JANUARY AND 26TH AND THE FEBRUARY 23RD, WE CAN'T BE IN HERE. YEAH, NO, THOSE NEED TO BE MOVED ANYWAY. YEAH. SO AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, IN IN A PERFECT WORLD, IF THERE'S NO REASON STOPPING US, I, I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO BE HERE. SO MAYBE HE COULD ANSWER SOME OF THOSE FINER QUESTIONS. YEAH. AS HELL PODCAST MAY ONLY RUN 30 MINUTES. AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD START IN THE AFTERNOON. AND, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT TIME, WHATEVER. AND WE COULD POTENTIALLY SORT IT OUT. AND THAT'S WHY KIND OF I WAS ASKING WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD TO, HAD TO PUBLISH AN ENTIRE YEAR OR WHETHER WE COULD JUST TAKE CARE OF JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND THEN REVISIT THE REST FROM THERE. SO I WOULD PROBABLY JUST RECOMMEND YOU GUYS DO YOUR ADJUSTMENTS FOR JANUARY 26TH. FEBRUARY 23RD. OKAY. LEAVE EVERYTHING ELSE AS IS BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT. THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE GO FROM THERE. SO THAT WAY, IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF MANDATORY RULE, WE'VE COMPLIED WITH IT AND THEN WE CAN FIX IT LATER IF WE NEED TO. AND THAT GIVES [INAUDIBLE] TIME TO REACH OUT TO OUR NEW MEMBER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS REAL. I GUESS PARAMETERS ARE THAT MAKE SENSE? IN THE IN THE VEIN OF THE JANUARY AND FEBRUARY DATES, MS. SHAWANDA, AM I CONFLATING ISSUES, OR DID IT SEEM LIKE THE. DID THE METRO COUNCIL GIVE A SPECIFIC DATES THAT THEY HAD IN MIND FOR US RESCHEDULING THOSE, OR WAS IT JUST KIND OF OPEN ENDED AND MAYBE KICKING IT TO MAYBE 1 OF THOSE THURSDAYS THAT WE JUST KNOW IS A CATEGORICAL OR AVAILABLE PRETTY OPEN. [00:35:08] THOSE DAYS WEREN'T AVAILABLE. THURSDAYS ARE BETTER THAN TUESDAYS. BECAUSE THERE ARE. ALL THE THURSDAY. ANYONE. SO THE MS. HARRIS'S EMAIL IS AT THE BOTTOM, AND THEN THE REPLIES AT THE TOP. WELL. AND THEN. COMMISSIONER DO YOU HAVE OUR CALENDAR FOR OUR NEXT YEAR, OUR HEARINGS FOR NEXT YEAR AVAILABLE? BECAUSE IT'S POSSIBLE WE NO LONGER NEED TO RESCHEDULE 1 OR BOTH OF THEM. I DON'T THINK. THERE'S ANY CHANCE. RIGHT. YES, THEY RESOLVED IT. WOODARD. WOODARD. I BELIEVE SO. THEY ONLY HAVE ONE MORE THAT HAS NOT BEEN SET. IT'S DATA FOR CRIMINAL REASON. OKAY. AND SO TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, BECAUSE MR. RICKS IS REMINDING ME THAT IT'S IT WAS PRIMARILY AN ISSUE OF WHETHER WE RAN LONG BECAUSE THE THE ROOM WAS NOT NEEDED UNTIL THE AFTERNOON. AND I, I LOST THE FOREST FOR THE TREES A LITTLE BIT ON THAT ONE. SO MY APOLOGIES. SO IF WE NO LONGER IF WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW WE NO LONGER HAVE HEARINGS ON EITHER OF THOSE DATES, THEN WE CAN LIKELY MAINTAIN THOSE DATES AS IS. OKAY. WHAT? SO WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT IS THAT CURRENTLY OUR JANUARY 26TH AND 20 AND FEBRUARY 23RD DATES ARE LISTED AS UNAVAILABLE BECAUSE THE ROOM. THIS ROOM IS NEEDED IN THE AFTERNOON ON THOSE DAYS. THREE TO CORRECT. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE HEARINGS ON THESE 2 DATES, THEN WE CAN HAVE OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS ON THOSE DATES WITHOUT ISSUE. IF WE DO HAVE HEARINGS ON THOSE DATES, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE CONTENTIOUS, GENERALLY RUNS LONGER THAN 3:00. AND SO WE WOULD NEED TO RESCHEDULE THEM.]HAVE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THEM SCHEDULED ANYMORE ANYWAY. AND SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A WE HAVE OUR MOTION. AND SECOND. ARE THESE USUALLY READ IN OR HOW ARE THESE DATES AS FAR AS THE MOTION TO SET THE CALENDAR? OH HONESTLY. OR DO WE JUST ADOPT THE MATERIAL? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THEM IN UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO READ THEM. THEN I WOULD JUST SAY I'M LOOKING AT YOU KNOW. THAT'S THOSE ARE THOSE ARE FIRST AND SECOND THURSDAYS. SO THOSE WERE PROPOSED DATES. IF WE SHIFTED THESE ARE OUR CURRENT DATES. WE'LL MAINTAIN THE FOURTH MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH EXCEPT FOR MAY BECAUSE WE JUST KNOW THAT'S MEMORIAL DAY OKAY. AND SO AND SO IT'S JUST WORDED AS 4TH MONDAY. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT? OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID SOMETHING. NO, NO, NO. AND THEN AND MAYBE AGAIN, THE POSSIBLY THE THE CLEANEST WAY. I WILL WITHDRAW MY PREVIOUS MOTION TO DISCUSS AND ESTABLISH THE CHAIR MOVES TO ESTABLISH THE DATES FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR [00:40:03] AS THE 4TH MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH IN 2026. MIC]. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE. BECAUSE I ACTUALLY AM NOW REALIZING I. WELL, WE SET THE CALENDAR. DID WE JUST SET THE TIME INDEPENDENTLY EACH TIME OR DOES THAT NEED TO BE PART OF THE MOTION? HISTORICALLY WE'VE JUST SET A CALENDAR, BUT I MEAN, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY TEN WORKS FOR ME. IT'S EASIER TO TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE TIME AHEAD OF TIME. THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT DOES ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE IS MOVING FROM 10:30 TO TO 10, OR MOVING AS EARLY AS 9:39? I'LL KIND OF DEFER TO I KNOW THAT MY MORNINGS I END UP HAVING DEAD TIME BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING IN THE MORNINGS BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE HERE, WHICH IS ANYONE YOU'RE NOT TRAVELING IN, OR ARE THESE TRAVELING IN FOR THESE MEETINGS OR IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE MEETING. LIKE IF IT'S A BIG 1, PROBABLY I'LL BE HERE THE DAY BEFORE, BUT SOMETHING SHORT LIKE THIS, I'LL COME IN. I'M AN EARLY MORNING PERSON ANYWAY, SO IT WORKS FOR ME. SO IT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY REASON OR APPETITE TO TO GO EVEN EARLIER TO 9:39. IT DOES THAT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS FOR YOU THAT GETS I'M GOOD WITH 9:30. LET'S DO 9:30 OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE AGAIN, I END UP WITH A TON OF DEAD TIME IN THE MORNING BECAUSE I CAN'T SCHEDULE ANYTHING IN THE MORNING THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO RUN. AND SO THEY'RE GOOD FOR YOU. YOU DO THAT'S WHAT I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, THE TRAFFIC AND STUFF. SO 9 WOULD STILL TRAFFIC WOULD BE OUT BY THEN. YEAH. LET'S DO 9 THEN. I'M GOOD FOR THAT. WELL, WHERE ARE YOU TRAVELING? LIKE, HOW ARE YOU COMING IN. FROM ALEXANDER? SO THAT'S NORTH. SO COMING THROUGH OVER THE BRIDGE AND STUFF. NEW BRIDGE OR OLD BRIDGE? NEW BRIDGE. NEW BRIDGE IS STILL ROUGH. AT 9:00. WE MAY WANT TO DO 9:30. LET'S DO 9:30. WE WANT TO DO 9;30 AS SOON AS. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. I WAS LIKE, IF YOU'RE TAKING THE OLD BRIDGE ACROSS, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. [LAUGHTER] YEAH. JUST MOVE IT. OKAY. AND THEN SO THAT THAT MOTION DIES WITHOUT A SECOND. THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD CHANGE. AND THEN, SO IT JUST FOR MS. HARRIS'S SAKE, WE HAD OUR INITIAL MOTION FROM THE CHAIR AND SECOND, BY MR. RICKS THAT I WITHDRAWN. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE CHAIR THAT DID NOT HAVE THE TIME. THAT'S JUST DYING WITHOUT A SECOND. AND THEN NOW WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE CHAIR TO ESTABLISH THE DATES FOR OUR 2026 CALENDAR AS THE 4TH MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH, BEGINNING AT 9:30 A.M. SECOND. BY MR. RICKS. ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY OR ANYTHING THEY NEED TO ADD OR DISCUSS? THEN THAT MOVES US TO AGENDA ITEM 11. CONSIDER MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. THE CHAIR. SO MOVES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WAS THAT MR. BERAUD? ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.