Nov 04, 2020 Special Metropolitan Council

YOU WANT TO LEAD US ON THE PROUD, YES.

HAVING A FATHER IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

WE COME TO YOU ALL GOD WITH THANKSGIVING.

WE THANK YOU, LORD GOD, THAT THIS IS A DAY THAT YOU HAVE MADE AND WE WILL REJOICE AND BE GLAD IN IT.

WE THANK YOU, LORD GOD.

AS WE ADMINISTER, UH, JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS AND DELIBERATE ON FINANCIAL REWARDS AND INCENTIVES OR GOD THAT WILL YOU EXECUTE YOUR WISDOM, LORD, WE THANK YOU, LORD GOD FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL OUR COUNCIL AND THEIR PERSPECTIVE, RACIST, LORD GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING FAVOR WITH GOD AND WITH MAN, BUT THANK YOU, LORD GOD, PERSONALLY, FOR THE OVERWHELMING VICTORY IN DISTRICT TWO, AND WE GIVE YOU THE GLORY AND HONOR, AND THE PRAISE.

AMEN.

I NEED HER OR SOMETHING TO THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING

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TO GO TO ITEM 89.

HOW MANY OF THE 22 CURRENT EXPENSE BUDGETS? SO IT'S APPROPRIATE $800,000 FOR DEBRIS COLLECTION AND MONITORING ACTIVITIES IN RESPONSE TO HURRICANE DELTA BY ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR LAYS JEN WAS A PUBLIC HEARING, WENT BY WHICH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 89, SAY AND ON THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

ANY QUESTIONS, MOTION TO APPROVE.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF RICK, IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE US AN UPDATE, KIND OF PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH WHERE WE ARE IN COLLECTIONS AND UM, THAT KIND OF THING.

I KNOW I'M GETTING A LOT OF COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE PACE.

AND I THINK THERE'S, UH, AN OPTICS DIFFERENCE THIS TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DIDN'T DO THE NORTH SOUTH SWEEP.

SO JUST KIND OF UPDATE US ON WHERE WE ARE.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, FOR LETTING ME HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.

UH, I DID GIVE EACH OF Y'ALL INTO Y'ALL'S TACK IT A, A MATH, I THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, PACKED.

WAS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT WAS BEING PUT OUT EARLY.

SO, UH, THAT WAS IN DISTRIBUTED FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO YOU GUYS.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S GOTTEN IT YET, BUT ANYWAY, UH, THAT MAP WILL SHOW YOU WHERE WE PICKED UP TODAY AND IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE STARTED.

AND THE REASON WE STARTED IN, IN THE AREAS WE DID IS WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR SURVEY, WE SAW THAT

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SO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED IN THE SHERWOOD FOREST AREA IN, UH, UM, UH, MONTICELLO AREA IN THOSE AREAS.

AND WE KIND OF MOVED A LITTLE BIT TO THE SOUTH WHO SHOULD TO AREA.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY AN AREA WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SMALL LITTLE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, AND MAYBE NOT ON SOME OF THEM SO SMALL, BUT ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS, THERE WAS NOT JUST THE ROADWAYS WERE CATCHING THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD AS THEY GO DOWN.

IT'S THE SAME ON ANY PLACE WHERE WE SAY A CORRIDOR AND I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHEN I SEND OUT THE WEEK AHEAD OR TWO WEEKS AHEAD.

I NOTICE I'LL ALSO POST THAT ONTO, UH, NEXT DOOR, YOU KNOW, AND LET THEM HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT THIS NEW, THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

AND SO I WILL ON THAT POST, WE'LL START POSTING THIS MAP TO NEXT DOOR AND PUBLISHING THIS TWICE A WEEK.

SO THEY KIND OF GIVES PEOPLE AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE WORKING AT.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL START CLEARING SOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND MOVING ON.

BUT, UH, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS.

UH, WE HAVE THIS, UH, UPDATE THAT I GET FROM THOMPSON EVERY DAY.

AND RIGHT NOW, AS OF YESTERDAY, WE'VE PICKED UP 16,900 CUBIC YARDS OF, OF DEBRIS.

AND THEN THAT'S IN A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW? SO, UH, PEOPLE SEEM TO BE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT ANXIOUS.

I LIKE WANNA ASK THEM TO BE PATIENT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 10 TO 12 TRUCKS RIGHT NOW HAD A COUPLE OF BREAKDOWN YESTERDAY, BUT, UH, WE'RE HOPING TO GET UP TO 15 AS BAKER FINISHES UP, WE'LL MOVE THAT TRUCK INTO OUR FLEET, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S ON THEIR CONTRACT NOW AND, AND STARTING TO PICK USING THAT RESOURCE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I'D LIKE YOU TO REMEMBER LOUISIANA GOT HIT BY A LOT OF HURRICANES THIS YEAR.

AND SO DID OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE COMPETING FOR THOSE SAME RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, BEFORE DELTA HIT LAKE CHARLES HAD PICKED UP 2 MILLION CUBIC YARDS AFTER LAURA.

SO, AND SO THEY HAD MORE DEBRIS AFTER DELTA TO COME.

SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND TRYING TO PICK UP ON AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

SO WITH THE, WITH THE 15 TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE NOW, IS THAT, IS THAT A TYPICAL AMOUNT OF TRUCKS THAT WE'LL HAVE OUT ON THE ROADS AFTER A STORM OR IS THAT WELL FOR BARRY, WE HAD 10, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT TOOK, UH, SIX, SEVEN WEEKS TO PICK UP THE DEBRIS AND THE BERRY THAT, AND THAT WAS ABOUT 34,000 CUBIC YARDS FOR BARRETT.

DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE AS TO HOW LONG THIS IS GOING TO TAKE OR PROJECTED TIMELINE FOR US? WELL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AMOUNT THAT WE PICKED UP, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL ESTIMATING ABOUT 50,000 YARDS AND IT COULD GO OVER THAT.

SO IT COULD BE ANOTHER FOUR WEEKS BEFORE WE'RE FINISHED THAT.

IF YOU, UH, I KNOW YOU SENT OUT AN EMAIL KIND OF WHAT TRUCKS OR IN WHAT AREA, ONE TRUCK HERE, ONE TRUCK THERE, BUT YOU CAN SEND ME AN EMAIL, I GUESS, FOR MY DISTRICT.

I KNOW CENTRAL HAS THEIR OWN CONTRACT, BUT IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF TELL ME WHERE WE ARE KIND OF WITH THAT SHARE WITH AREA AND JUST KIND OF LET ME KNOW VENUS EMEA, RIGHT.

IT'S CLEAR THIS WEEK.

SO, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S A VERY LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO.

ANYONE, ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? HI, WE HAD A MOTION.

DO YOU WANT TO, REGARDLESS I COULD THE SAME THING TO SCOTT, SO I CAN HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING IN TERMS OF A MAP OF WHERE WE ARE.

AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU GIVE DATES AND NEIGHBORHOODS, DEREK, DEREK IS COMING UP, RIGHT.

SO I'M PLANNING ON SENDING IT, SENDING THIS MAP OUT.

YOU HAVE THE PACKETS.

AND I'LL SIT AND I'LL HAVE IT AN UPDATED MATTER TWICE A WEEK.

THAT ATTACHED TO THE EMAILS THAT I SEND OUT ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE'RE WORKING IN.

SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THEY'VE PICKED UP, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHERE, WHERE THEY PICKED UP AND WHERE THEY'RE HEADED NEXT.

90 GRAND, THE SALES TAX ABATEMENT ESTIMATE AT 28,500 JET CENTER, LLC LOCATED AT 44 90 WASHINGTON AVENUE FOR PARTICIPATION ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR LAYS IN GENERAL IS A PAUL CARRION, WHICH BIG ON ITEM 90, SEEING CARRIE'S

HEY, WAIT A MOTION BY COLLINS LEWIS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY AMA ROSA, ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON AUTOMATING NINE HAS BEEN APPROVED ITEM

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CLOTHES COUNSELOR.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE MUCH FOOD BY WATSON SECOND BY HUDSON OR IN ANY OBJECTIONS HERE? NONE ITEM 90 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM 91,

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GRAIN SALES TAX REBATE REBATE PAID $11,400 FOR LOUISIANA FISH FRY ELIMINATE LOCATED AT 52 67 PLANK ROAD FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR LAYS.

AND JOHN WAS A PUBLIC HEARING WHICH BEGAN ON ITEM 91.

SATAN ON THE CLOSE CATS.

MY MOTION APPROVED BY THE CHAIR THERE.

SECOND, SECOND BY WATSON GREEN.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE? NOT ITEM 91 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM 92

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AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR PRESENT EXCEPT THE GRANT AWARD IN THE MIDDLE OF $17,046 TO ENHANCE COLLABORATIVE PLANNING FOR MATH DISPENSING RESPONSE IN COORDINATION WITH THE STATE OF LOUISIANA'S PUBLIC HEALTH, RURAL COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS FOR STRATEGIC NATIONAL STOCKPILE ON HOMELAND SECURITY, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS DIRECTOR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED CATHETER EMOTION ITEM 92 MOST PROVED BY WATSON.

PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE BOUNDARIES POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ACCEPT FROM LOUISIANA HIGHWAY SAFETY COMMISSION AND AMOUNT OF $768,552 SET TO BEGIN OCTOBER ONE, 2020 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021 BY THE POLICE CHIEF LASER JAILS, A POCKET SHOULD BE GOING OUT OF 93.

ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING NONE ITEM 92 WAS THAT APPROVED ITEM 93 AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR

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STAYING ON THE PUBLIC HERE IS CLOSED CUSTOMERS.

MOTION APPROVE ITEM 93.

MOTION PROVED BY HUDSON SECOND BY WATSON.

ANY OBJECTIONS PAIRING ON ITEM 93 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM 94 AUTHORIZED MAYOR PRESIDENT

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SMITH TO GRANT APPLICATION TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES ON BEHALF OF THE DIVISION OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT.

HE'S BATTERY REPAIRED HEAD HEADSTART PROGRAM FOR THE CONTINUATION GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF 11 MILLION, $264,382 AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF ALL DOC DOCUMENT THE CONNECTION THERE WITH MY HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR, LADY JAMS. CAN WE SPEAK ON ITEM 94? SEEING ON THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COUNCIL MAY HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 94 MOTION BY HUDSON.

SECOND BY COLLINS LEWIS.

ANY OBJECTIONS SAY ON ITEM 94 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM 95 AUTHORIZED MAYOR.

PRESIDENT SUBMITTED

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GRANT PASTRIES AND DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, OFFICE OF NUTRITION SERVICES FOR THE CHILD AND ADULT CARE FOOD PROGRAM AND AMOUNT OF $1,483,470 BY THE HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR LIKE JOHNATHAN POPE.

KAREN, WE SPEAK ON ITEM 95.

SAY HE'S CLOSE, COMES WITH A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 95 MOTION TO APPROVE MOST BAR HUDSON.

SECOND BAR AMA ROSA.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE? NONE ITEM 95 HAS

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BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM 96, THAT RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE CAPITAL AREA REGION FLOOD PLAIN FOREST 2019 MULTI JURISDICTIONAL PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION BY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO SPRING ON OF 96, SAY NO CARING WAS CLOSED.

CUSTOMER EMOTION APPROVED ITEM 96, MOTION BY HUDSON SECOND BY THE CHAIR.

ANY OBJECTIONS, SAY IT ON ITEM 96 HAS BEEN APPROVED

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IN 97 AUTHORIZED SELL IN THE MATTER ENTITLED CHARLES BEEN IN ANTIQUATE VERSUS STEPHAN JONES AT ALL IN A MOUNTAIN OF $66,250.

PLUS COURT COSTS AN AMOUNT OF $96 AND 50 CENTS FOR A TOTAL MENTAL $66,346 AND 50 CENTS BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PUMPKIN, WHICH BIG ON ITEM 907 ST.

HOPKINS CLOSE COMPANY MOTION APPROVED ITEM 97.

MOST PRETTY BY HUDSON.

SECOND BY ROCKER.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE, NOT ITEM 97, BEEN APPROVED ITEM 98, AUTHORIZED

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THE SELL IN THE MARION TITLE HANDLE VERSUS VIOLA FORD VERSUS SORELLO VALERO IN THE CITY PARISH IN AMOUNT OF 40,000 PLUS COURT COSTS THE AMOUNT OF 300, $3 FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $40,303 BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY LADY JONES, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS SPEAKING ON ITEM 98, NONE CLOSE CASTLEBERRY MOTION APPROVE ITEM 98 MOST APPROVED BY HUDSON THERE A SECOND.

SECOND BY LUKE, ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON ITEM NINE HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM 99 AUTHORIZED TO

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SELL IN THE MARIN TITLE LEAD AND LINDSEY BICE VERSUS THE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE AT ALL IN THE AMOUNT OF 38,000 PLUS COURT COSTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $196 82 CENTS, WHERE HE TOLD THEM OUT OF $38,196 AND 82 CENTS BY THE PARISH ATTORNEY LATER WAS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE SPEAKING ON ITEM 99, STAYING ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS

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CLOSED AND APPROVE ITEM 99, MOTION BY ROCCA.

CLERK OF COURT TO COUNCIL DECISION TO ORDER RECORDING ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2020, AND THE AVERAGE REFERENCE.

ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON ITEM 99 BEEN APPROVED ITEM 100.

WE'RE SENDING DIRECTING

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CAROLYN ELAINE ROBINS, AKA OR CAROLYN ELAINE ROBBINS, 59 35 ATLANTA HAD A NEW REASON FOR RESCISSION OWNER NEEDS TO OBTAIN A PERMIT TO BE IN WORKING ON THE HOME.

I COUNSEL HIM ON THE AIR, CONGRATULATION, JOHN A PUCK.

HERE WE SPEAK ON ITEM 100 ST ON THE PUBLIC TEAMS, CLOSE COUNCILOR.

THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 100 BY GREEN SECOND BY LUKE.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE, NOT ON ITEM 100 AND APPROVED.

I DON'T WANT TO ONE.

WE'RE SENDING DIRECTING CLERK OF COURT TO COUNSEL AND DECISION

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ORDER RECORD ON SEPTEMBER 11TH.

MAYOR CITY OF BATON ROUGE, CITY OF BATON ROUGE, MERGERS, PAMELA DENISE RIDLEY, KENNETH HARDEN, REALLY RONALD PATRICK, RARELY.

AND THE STATE OF KIMBERLY MARIA RIDLEY, 60 72.

SOME ARE ALL DRIVE BREEDING FOR PRECISION AND THE PROVINCE AND SOLD TO A DEVELOPER WHO UNDERSTANDS THE URGENCY OF RENOVATING AND IMPROVING THE PROPERTY BY COUNCILWOMAN ERICA GREEN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN HERE, WE SHOULD FIND THEM ONE OH ONE SAME PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COMPLIMENT MOTION APPROVAL ITEM.

ONE-ON-ONE MOTION BY GREEN.

SECOND BY LUKE.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE? NONE ITEM ONE OH ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM ONE

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OH TWO PART OF THE RACE RUN THE MAYOR PRESIDENT AND OUR CHAIRMAN OF AIRPORT AND EXECUTED A CONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT OF THE MEDIA AND TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH PERVASIVE TV, INC TWO TRAVEL CONTENT, LLC DBA RICH TV BY THE AVIATION DIRECTOR.

LADIES AND JAN WAS A PUBLIC SPEAKER ON ITEM ONE OH TWO ST ON THE PUBLIC REPOS COUNCIL MEMBER MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM ONE OH TWO MOTION BY HUDSON.

SECOND BY WATSON.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE DONE ITEM ONE OH TWO HAS BEEN A PROOF ITEM.

ONE OH THREE

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AUTHORIZED AUTHORIZATION MAYOR, PRESIDENT AND OUR CHAIRMAN AIRPORT COMMISSION TO SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR THE CAPITAL OUTLAY FUNDING FOR 2021 THROUGH 2022 FOR THE GENERAL AVIATION DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,777,980 BY THE AVIATION DIRECTOR LADY.

JENNIFER, CAN WE SPEAK ON ITEM ONE OH THREE CIGNA HERE'S CLOSE COUNCIL MEMBER MOTION APPROVE ITEM ONE TO THREE MOTION BY HUDSON.

SECOND BY THE CHAIR.

ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON ITEM ONE OH THREE HAS BEEN APPROVED.

I DON'T WANT TO FOR AUTHORIZATION FROM THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT OR CHAIRMAN

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OF AIRPORT COMMISSION TO EXECUTE A CONSULTANT SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH 14 TO PROVIDE FOR THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE NORTH AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT ROAD, UTILITY CORRIDOR AND AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED $189,935 AND 37 CENTS BY THE AVIATION DIRECTOR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE SPEAKING ON ITEM ONE OH FOUR, SAY PUBLIC HEARINGS, CLOSE CUSTOMER EMOTION APPROVAL ITEM ONE TO FOUR MOTION BY WATSON.

SECOND BY A ROCK.

ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING NONE ON ONE TO FOUR HAS BEEN APPROVED ON A ONE TO FIVE OBSERVATION BY THE MAYOR PRESIDENT AND OUR CHAMBER

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OF AIRPORT COMMISSION TO SUBMIT AND EXECUTE A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE AVIATION ADMINISTRATION AND THE STATE OF LOUISIANA AND AMOUNT OF 7 MILLION, $20,000 FUNDING SOURCES.

FEDERAL IS 3,600,000 STATE IS 3 MILLION, 400,000.

THE AIRPORT IS $20,000 BY THE AVIATION DIRECTOR LAYS AND JOHN'S A PUMPKIN WAS SPEAKING TO ONE OH FIVE ST ON THE CLAIMS CLOSED COUNCILMAN MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM ONE OH FIVE MOTION BY WATSON.

TO X SUBMIT NEXT Q A GRANT APPLICATION TO STAY THE LOUISIANA OFFICE OF AVIATION FOR 10% STATE MATCH AND AMOUNT OF $111,011 FOR THE NORTHWEST AVIATION, THE NORTHWEST AVIATION DEVELOPMENT TAXI LANE PROJECT BY THE AVIATION DIRECTOR LAYS.

ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON, I DON'T WANT TO FILE.

IT'S BEEN APPROVED.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE SIX AUTHORIZATION FROM THE MAYOR, PRESIDENT OR CHAIRMAN OF AIRPORT COMMISSION

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AND JOHN WAS A PUPPY HERE.

WE'RE SPEAKING ON A ONE OH SIX C NON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

COUNCIL MEMBERS MOTION APPROVE.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE SIX MOTION BY CARL LEWIS.

EIGHT, A RESOLUTION PROPOSING MEMBERS OF THE PLANE OF GOVERNMENT.

ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON ITEM ONE OH SIX HAS BEEN APPROVED.

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I'M SORRY.

SORRY.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOME NORMALIZATION, BUT A MAYOR, PRESIDENT OR CHAIRMAN OF AIRPORT COMMISSION TO FORMALLY REQUEST DOTD DIVISION OF AVIATION TO PROVIDE PHONES REQUIRED FOR, TO COMPLETE THE AIRPORT AND PROGRESS WITH BATTERIES, METROPOLITAN AIRPORT AND TO BUY FOR $20,000 LOCAL CONTRIBUTION BY THE AVIATION DIRECTOR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PUFFIER.

WE'RE SPEAKING ON THE SEVEN SCENE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED COSMO MOTION APPROVED ITEM ONE OH SEVEN MOTION BY HUDSON SECOND BY THE CHAIR.

ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON ITEM ONE OH SEVEN HAS BEEN APPROVED ITEM ONE OH

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PERFECT.

HE SPENT ROUGE AND THE CITY OF AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN THE SUMMARY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT, THE TASK HERE TO ORDERING IN A CALLING FOR AN ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE, STATE OF LOUISIANA ON MARCH 20TH, 2021 FOR THE PURPOSE OF

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SUBMITTING TO THE VOTERS OR THE PARISH OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT.

AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN THE SUMMARY OF PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT ATTACHED HERE TO MAKE AN APPLICATION TO THE LOUISIANA BOND, STATE BOND COMMISSION, AND REBUYING FOR OTHER MATTERS IN CONNECTION THERE WITH MY COUNCILWOMAN DAHLAN COLLINS LEWIS.

DONNA, DO YOU WANT MAKEUP STATEMENT REAL QUICK BEFORE I'M GOING TO LET THE PUBLIC GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DELETE THE ITEM TO BREAK IT UP INTO SMALLER PIECES.

SO I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO A POCKET.

OKAY, LADIES AND FOR PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL SPEAK ON SOME ONE OH EIGHT ONE OH EIGHT.

DO YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR? I AM CHARLOTTE.

CO-SIGNER RETIRED SHOVEL ENGINEER WITH EXPERIENCE AND PATIENT GRANTED.

MY PURPOSE IS TO URGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE SEPARATION OF THE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? PATIENTS DRAINAGE INTO A DEPARTMENT OF FRANCE, THE PATIENT AT THE SEPARATE DEPARTMENT, GRANTED THE AUGUST, 2018 FLOOD FLOOD BUTTERS ON NAVY AND WHATEVER TO BACK UP THE JONES BREAK DERIVE AND RACHEL HOME, WHICH WAS SUPPOSEDLY OUT OF THE FLOOD INSURANCE.

SO IT'S A LOT.

THE NEWS REPORTERS REVERSE ON MY STREET.

ME AND MY WIFE, SUBSEQUENT NEWS REPORTS REVEALED AGE PATRICK'S PARENTS HAS NEVER HAD HIS PARENTS WIDE STORM WATER MASTER PLAN AND PAY YOUR SHORT COPY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT MADE CORRECTION 2021 TO NINE AND PORN.

WHY DID THIS OCCUR? OBVIOUSLY THERE HAS NEVER BEEN SUFFICIENT PRIORITY PLACED ON YOU.

PROVIDING IS SEPARATE AND APART AND PROPER LEVEL OF RESOURCES AND MANAGEMENT THROUGH AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR.

IN SHORT, I THINK THE BRAND AND FLOOD CONTROL IN THE TRACK CURRENTLY, THIS FUNCTION IS DESIGNED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

GRANTED WE'RE IN WESTERN PAPER, THE DIGITAL PAIN PATIENT CONCERNED WITH CONTINUING WITH PRACTICALLY DITCH, HOWEVER, THE POTENTIAL FOR MAJOR LOSS OR WHY THE PROPERTY FROM THE SUN, A LOT OF EXAM.

THE PATIENT WITH THE PAVERS CIRCUMSTANCE, PAGER DRUCKER PREPARATION THROUGH A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT OF DRAINAGE AND FLOOD CONTROL CAN ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY AS A HIGHER PRIORITY.

IN ADDITION, SIGNIFICANT DEMANDS OF BOTH DRAINAGE AND RENT THE PATIENT, MAKE IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR PROPER MANAGEMENT AND SPAN OF CONTROL RESOURCES AVAILABLE THROUGH REGRETS POST THESE FUNCTIONS SEPARATELY AND EFFECTIVELY IN ONE DEPARTMENT.

AND NOT THAT I HAVE PROVIDED SHOWS THAT SIMPLE CHANGES IN LANGUAGE TO THE TERM PLAN OF GOVERNMENT THROUGH THE SEPARATION THAT I RECOMMEND.

I ATTEMPTED TO PRESENT THIS TO THE COMMITTEE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE CANCELED.

I RECOMMEND DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC.

WHY THE ADOPTION SIR? GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER CARLISLE, 1855 HOME CARRIAGE LANE.

AND I'M SPEAKING TODAY REPRESENTING TOGETHER BATHROOM TOGETHER.

BEDROOM'S REQUEST TO FOLLOW UP ON CHANGES TO THE, UH, EAST FEBRUARY'S PLANS COMMITMENTS.

UM, WE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE LACK OF OPPORTUNITY THAT EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH CITIZENS HAVE HAD TO DEMOCRATICALLY PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSIONS TO RESTRUCTURE OUR PARISH GOVERNMENT IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC WITH ELECTIONS, THE PENDING CREATION OF A FIT CITY WITHIN OUR PARISH AND THE 2020 CENSUS.

THIS METRIC IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE THE CAPSULE.

THE PEOPLE GO TO THAT.

NOW WHY, WHY THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT, JUST IMPORTANT LEADERS FROM TOGETHER.

BATON ROUGE ATTENDED THE FIRST AND ONLY PUBLIC HEARING IN AUGUST OF 2019 AT THE BREXITEER ON REPORTABLE WITH OUR LEADERS, FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE TEAM AT TBR STRONGLY OBJECTED TO THE PROPOSAL AT A YEAR LATER, WE HAVE YET TO HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSIONS CURRENTLY FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE DO HAVE, WE ARE CONCERNED ON SEVERAL ISSUES.

I'M GOING TO LIST THOSE OFF.

WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE REDUCTION OF CITY COUNCIL SEATS AND THE CREATION OF TWO AT-LARGE SEATS.

THAT'S, UH, ITEM 2.01.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT 2.2 AND 4.01, WHICH IS A REDUCTION TO A TWO TERM LIMIT FOR THE MAYOR.

PRESIDENT WHILE COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD SERVE FOUR TERMS THREE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER OF WHAT IS OUR MEMBER.

UM, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESTRUCTURING OF THE MAYOR, PRECEDENT ADMINISTRATION, SEEMINGLY LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF THE MAYOR PRECEDENT.

WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE PROCESS OF VOTING

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FOR THIS PLAN WITH GOVERNANCE.

WOULD IT BE VOTED FOR IN SECTIONS OR AS A WHOLE? AND ANOTHER CONCERN IS SECTION 2.17, WHICH, UH, REDUCES THE ATTENDANCE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM 75% OF MEETINGS TO 60% MEETINGS.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE ASPECTS OF THE PLAN OF GOVERNANCE THAT ARE OUTDATED AND THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED, BUT NO CHANGE SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE.

THERE'S A PLAN TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND DEBATE, INCLUDING PUBLIC POLICY INPUT AT METRO COUNCIL MEETINGS IN THIS TIME OF SOCIAL DISTANCING AND TOLD ME I HAVE ACCESS TO THE ANSWERS TO THESE HUNDRED QUESTIONS.

WE OPPOSE THE CHANGES OF PLAN OF GOVERNMENT.

WE QUITE, WE REQUEST A DEFERRAL UNTIL WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC EDUCATION AT A FOOT.

UM, AND TOGETHER BATON ROUGE WAS ASKING THE METRO COUNCIL TO DEFER VOTING ON THIS PROPOSAL FOR A MINIMUM OF 90 DAYS AND TO ORGANIZE VIRTUAL TOWN HALL MEETINGS FOR CITIZENS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE DEMOCRATICALLY IN THE PROCESS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE PUBLIC HERE WE SPEAK ON ITEM ONE OH EIGHT.

SAY HEARING IS CLOSED.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, MOTION.

YOU WANT TO SPEAK DOWN ON THIS ONE? YES.

THANK YOU, DONALD.

WHAT IF WE HAVE ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE? WELL, THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING I WANT TO SAY.

AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING AT, IF I CAN JUST SAY THIS REAL QUICK.

IF YOU'RE NOT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, IF YOU'RE NOT A DEPARTMENT HEAD WITH THIS CITY PARISH, YOU DO NOT BELONG IN HERE.

YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE LIBRARY.

THAT IS YES, SHE DID.

THAT'S WHAT IS WHAT WE DONE? YOU LET ONE PERSON IN, YOU HAVE TO LET EVERYBODY, SO IF YOU'RE NOT A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND YOU'RE NOT WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION AND YOU'RE NOT ON THIS COUNCIL AND YOU'RE NOT A LEGISLATIVE BAY, YOU DON'T BELONG IN HERE.

YOU NEED TO GO TO THE LIBRARY.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN HAVE LIKE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THAT'S THE RULES WE MADE AND THAT'S PERIOD.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY.

THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY.

THIS IS WHY NOT.

THIS IS GOOD.

THIS IS THE RULES THAT WE LAID OUT COUNCILWOMAN.

AND I'M NOT GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU TODAY.

NOW EITHER YOU GO TO THE PUB, I WILL SHUT DOWN THE DAY AND I'LL GO TO THE HOUSE, SHUT IT DOWN TODAY.

THEN THE DON'T IT DON'T MATTER THAT WE AGREED UPON THAT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

THE MEDIA IS HERE.

THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT IT CAN BE IN HERE.

THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING.

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

I UNDERSTAND.

LIKEWISE, IF YOU ARE NOT WITH THE NO, WAIT THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT AND WHAT I'VE JUST SAID.

THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT, ADAM KNAPP WAS IN HERE.

HE HAS NO BUSINESS BEING IN HERE.

OKAY? HE'S NOT WITH ADMINISTRATION.

JUST SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE.

I KNOW THIS.

MAY I SAY SOMETHING? THIS IS THE WORD.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE DECISION WAS AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, BUT THESE ARE SOME EXPERT ISSUES THAT NO ONE, NO DEPARTMENT HEAD AND NO ONE CAN SPEAK ON.

WE'RE NOT ASKING THESE PEOPLE JUST LET ME LIVE SPEED.

WE'RE NOT HAVING THEM HERE TO JUST TALK ABOUT HIM AS A CITIZEN.

THEY'LL QUESTIONS THAT NO ONE, IF THERE'S A DEPARTMENT HEAD HERE THAT CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IF ADAM WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AND THERE ARE PEOPLE OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS, HE CAN ANSWER THEM, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY MEASURE.

WE'RE GETTING OUT OF ORDER AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE SENSE AND MAKE RULES THAT ARE, MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

NOW, IF THEY CAN'T ANSWER A QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM THE LIBRARY, THEY'RE HEARING EVERYTHING WE SAY, WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

HER PERSON, I DON'T CARE WHOSE MOM JUST TELL HER THAT'S WHERE I'M JUST SAYING OKAY.

CAN I GET ANDY TO TUNNEL SOMEBODY FROM FARE? BUT SO THAT MY, MY THING WAS, AND MAYBE THIS IS MY MISTAKE, BUT I DID ASK THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO COME TO THE MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADDRESSING THIS BODY.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY ON THE STAND.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THE LIBRARY, BUT I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THEM TO BE IN ATTENDED DEATH AND BEING NOT I'M OUT OF ORDER ON THAT, VANESSA.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ESTABLISHED, BUT JUST LIKE, IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THEY'VE NEVER SERVED ON THIS COMMITTEE.

THIS IS NOT JUST THE PUBLIC THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO COME TO MAKE A COMMENT ON IT.

THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT I'M ASKING TO COME AND SPEAK

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TO, OR ANSWER QUESTIONS AS A RE AS A PART OF THE PROCESS.

NOW I'VE I WAS OUT OF ORDER ON THAT, THEN I'M OUT OF ORDER, BUT I ASKED THEM TO PERSONALLY BE HERE IN THE CHAMBER TO MAKE COMMENTS OR TO ANSWER OR ADDRESS THIS BODY AS A PART OF THAT STANDING COMMITTEE.

SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT SCOTT IS SAYING, BUT I'LL JUST SAY WHAT CHINA IS SAYING ALSO.

SO YOU, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT, THAT'S FINE.

I SEE DONNA.

OH MY, I DIDN'T KNOW THE ADAM WAS ON IT.

WASN'T THAT? DONNA DARRELL.

SO SHE LEFT OUT.

SO I JUST WANTED ANDREW TO SPEAK TO THIS.

ISN'T MY SIDE ONE.

I'M OLDER.

OH, DONALD GOT THE FLOOR.

LET DONNA TAKE THE FLOOR AND GO HERE, GO HERE, GO HERE.

JUST TO BE CLEAR.

WHAT DO YOU WANT? OKAY.

SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY DOING A COMMENT CARD FROM THE PUBLIC AND SOMEBODY THAT HAS BEEN A PART OF A COMMITTEE THAT IS PRESENTING AS AN ITEM ON THIS AGENDA, IS THERE ANY DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO OR CAN THERE BE ANY DISTINCTION MADE BETWEEN THOSE TWO SITUATIONS? THIS GUY IN THIS MEETING ARE THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE SET FORTH WHEN THIS MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER.

AND WE DECIDED WE THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO CHAMBERS.

THAT'S THE, UH, ITEMS THAT ASHLEY, AS THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATIVE SET FORTH, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE RULES GOVERNING.

WHO'S GOING TO BE IN THE CHAMBERS.

WHO'S ALLOWED TO SPEAK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, ALL THAT WAS SET FOR, UH, BY, UH, UH, MS. BECK.

AND THOSE ARE THE RULES THAT Y'ALL TO MY UNDERSTANDING, AGREED TO ABIDE BY THEM.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AN OLD COUNCIL WOMAN.

I SAID, AGREEMENT TO ABIDE BY IF ANYBODY WANTS WHAT'S SHE, THIS IS JUST ME.

ONCE SHE PUT FORTH THOSE ITEMS AS TO THIS IS WHERE HE WAS GOING TO BE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE HAD A DISAGREEMENT OR WANTING TO COME FORWARD AND SAY, THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, IF THERE'S NOT, CAN I, CAN I HAVE THE FLOOR? CAN YOU LET ME FINISH? THEN Y'ALL, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR.

BUT AGAIN, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY TALKS ABOUT ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DOES NOT HAVE TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR TO REFER TO YOUR LEAVING AGENDA, COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY INFORMATION, MAJOR OF BEING ON A REPORT TO SLEEP.

WHAT TIME DID YOU DO? THIS IS NOT SOMEBODY.

THIS IS A PART OF THE PUBLIC, BUT THIS PERSON IS NOT MAKING A PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS PERSON IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS A PART OF A COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT PERSON AND JUST A PUBLIC PERSON, SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC MAKING A COMMENT? I, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE WAY THAT THE LAW READS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, OKAY? THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER YOU ASK THEM TO COME FORWARD OR NOT, COUNSEL, WALMART'S STILL CONSIDERED TO BE PART OF THE PUBLIC.

AND THAT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT NOW AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE AFFORDED THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE, OR THE LIBRARY WOULD HAVE TO GO BY THE RULES THAT YOU ALL ESTABLISHED, OR THE RULES THAT ARE SET FORTH BY THE COUNCIL.

I'M NOT ASKING THEM TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M ASKING THEM TO SPEAK TO AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS A PART OF A COMMITTEE.

I'M NOT ASKING THEM TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'LL DO THEY ARE UP OR DOWN ON IT A ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I'M ASKING THEM TO SPEAK TO JUST LIKE A DEPARTMENT OF RICHFIELD WAS IN HERE.

AND I ASKED HIM TO COME SPEAK TO THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS THE HEAD OF THAT DEPARTMENT.

THESE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT I PUT TOGETHER THAT HIS BODY DID RECOGNIZE.

SO I'M ASKING AGAIN, IS THERE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT INDIVIDUAL AND JUST SOMEBODY AT THE LIBRARY MAKING A PUBLIC COMMENT? I CAN'T TELL YOU THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW.

COUNSEL.

I'LL BE GLAD TO PROVIDE THE PEOPLE I CAN'T TELL YOU TO ANSWER.

IF I COULD JUST SAY THIS COUNCIL WOMAN, WHEN THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATOR LAY DOWN THE RULES, IT'S HARD.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO COME BACK CLEARLY? OKAY.

SO WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE AT? LET'S SAY THE MAYOR HAS A COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, OF 20 PEOPLE.

LET'S JUST SAY SHE'S GOT A COMMITTEE.

I WOULDN'T EXPECT THEM.

I'M JUST SAYING, LET'S SAY SHE HAS A COMMUNITY AND SHE WANTS, WE CAN SIT.

WE CAN ANSWER.

THEY CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FROM THE LIBRARY, JUST AS WELL AS THEY CAN ANSWER THEM HERE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE MAY FOR SOCIAL DISTANCE.

CAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS CHAMBER BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY OF US THAT CAN BE HERE.

BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WHAT WE AGREED WAS WAS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANTS, MEDIA, THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION, AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

THAT'S WHERE WE PUT COUNCIL.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU.

I GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THAT'S WHERE THE, THE RULES THAT WERE LATIN.

THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL MINISTRY LAID OUT.

NOW, IF Y'ALL WANT TO GO BACK VIRTUAL, LET'S GO BACK VIRTUAL.

THAT'D BE FINE WITH ME.

I DON'T HAVE A FULL RINGS AFTER THIS.

WE'LL GO THROUGH IT ANYWAY.

UH, AND DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? NO.

THERE A MOTION TO DELETE THE ITEM.

DID ADAM GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY TO SPEAK OR SINCE HE GOT THROWN OUT THE CHAMBER, THEY HAD HIM GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY AND SPEAK OR DID DONNA GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY? BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY RESPONSE.

I ASKED DONALD TO BE IN THE CHAMBER, SO THAT WAS ON ME.

I'LL TAKE IT.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINE, YOU LET THIS ONE IN, WE GOTTA LET THE OUT AND I'M JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE RULES AND THAT'S IT.

THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO.

CAUSE IF YOU LET THIS ONE IN,

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THEN WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO DO ON THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I'M FINE.

OR DID, DID THEY GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY? BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE DAY ADAM IS AT THE LIBRARY RIGHT NOW.

SO DO YOU WANT TO ASK HIM, GO AHEAD.

ADAM, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ANYTHING ON THIS? I KNOW YOU PROBABLY BUILD IT BEFORE.

PROBABLY YOUR FRIEND.

YOU I'M SORRY.

OH, BARITONE.

OKAY, ADAM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? HELLO? HUH? SOMETHING FOR, FOR HAVING ME AND I APPRECIATE THE INVITATION COMES MEMBERS TO JOIN.

I APOLOGIZE FOR SITTING HERE MY FAULT, ADAM, I'LL TAKE THE, I'LL TAKE THE BLAME FOR IT.

AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE AT THIS ONE DAY, COME AND SHARE HOW VALUABLE OUR TIME WAS TOGETHER AS A BROAD CROSS SECTION TO WORK HARD AT YOUR BEST OR CLOSE TO TWO YEARS AND SPENDING TIME WITH THE PUBLIC CHAPTER BY CHAPTER PUBLIC.

IT'S ABOUT LANGUAGE THAT IS USEFUL.

IT LOOKS, HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK SITES.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION THAT VALUABLE TO HAVE THIS HEARD IN MULTIPLE HEARINGS AS WELL AS THE .

DELETE COLUMNS LEWIS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY ROCKETS.

DID THAT GO THROUGH THE MAKE TO THE LIBRARY? IF NOT, LET ME JUST, LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN.

I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE BECAUSE THEY WERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT WOULD BE OKAY.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE OUT OF ORDER IN ANY WAY.

UH, SPEAKING TO THE, UM, JENNIFER CAR WHILE SHE'S TOGETHER.

BATTERY, I UNDERSTAND THE POINT.

WE WERE GOING TO PUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

I BELIEVE IN MARCH OR APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

AND COVID HIT, WHICH PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD.

PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WERE SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE PLANNING TO HOLD COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

AGAIN, COVID HERE TO WAS THE END OF THAT.

BUT THIS MEETING AND THIS BODY, THIS COMMITTEE MET FOR 18 MONTHS.

EVERY MEETING WAS A PUBLIC MEETING AND EVERYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WAS INVITED TO BE A PART OF EVERY MEETING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF TAKE OFFENSE TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE FELT LIKE WE WERE WATCHING THIS OR PUSHING THIS DOWN SOMEBODY'S THROAT.

THE PUBLIC DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

THEY MAYBE HAVE MORE PUBLIC MEETINGS, BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS ELWHA 18 MONTH PERIOD.

EVERY MEETING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AFTER THEY'RE ONLINE, YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT A MEETING.

AND SO I'M NOT GONNA TO PUSH THIS DOWN ANYBODY'S THROAT.

I WILL SAY THIS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THAT WE USED SPENT 18 MONTHS, ALMOST TWO YEARS ON THIS DOCUMENT.

I LEAVE OFF THIS COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

AND IT WAS MY GOAL TO TRY NOT TO SHOVE THIS DOWN TO COUNCIL MEMBER'S THROAT, BUT TO AT LEAST HAVE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, I AM GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO DELETE ADAM ONE OH EIGHT, BUT I WILL BE PUTTING THE ITEM BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR INTRODUCTION ON NEXT MEETING, TO BREAK IT UP INTO THREE SEPARATE PARTS, HOPING THAT HE CAN BE EASIER TO DIGEST.

I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE YOU WILL NOT MAKE A MARCH, UH, ELECTION DAY, BUT MY GOAL IS TO AT LEAST HAVE A COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THIS, UH, ITEMS BEFORE I LEAVE FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMITMENT OF THE COMMITTEE'S CONCERN.

WELL, THE SAME THING, TRYING TO GET THIS BODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT, UH, ON JANUARY THE SECOND, THERE WERE AT LEAST THE SIX NEW MEMBERS SWORN INTO THIS COUNCIL.

IT IS NOWHERE TO BE A TOUGH CHALLENGE TO GET SIX NEW MEMBERS TO COME AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT IN THE INITIAL STAGES AND NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER YEAR.

I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO THE COMMITTEE IS ALMOST LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE FOR PEOPLE THAT SAID 18 MONTHS OF THEIR LIVES, DIGGING INTO THIS GIVING OF THEIR TIME, TALENT AND THEIR TREASURE.

AND SO I'M ASKING THIS BODY TO TAKE THIS ITEM SERIOUSLY, IF YOU HAVE COURSES, THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT NOTHING ON THIS PROPOSED CHANGES WILL EVEN BE ACCEPTED, BUT AT LEAST LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE, DISAGREE, WANT TO AMEND, DELETE, DELETE, ADD, OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO WITH IT.

BUT I THINK I WOULD BE REMISS IN NOT BRINGING THIS TO YOU GUYS.

I THINK YOU WOULD BE REMISS IN NOT TAKING THIS UP, UM, BEFORE WE LEFT THIS, UH, CHAMBER IN DECEMBER.

SO AGAIN, IT WILL BE HARD FOR US FOR 60 MEMBERS TO COME TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON AND MOVING THIS OUT AND POOL.

SO I WILL BE BACK IN A MOTION TO DELETED, BUT I WILL BE BRINGING IT BACK, UH, FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT THE MEETING IN THE END OF THE MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

SO THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, I'LL CALL YOU UP, BUT THE COMPUTER, NO EMOTION TO

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ARE THEY ANY OBJECTIONS? SAY NON ITEM ONE AWAY HAS BEEN DELETED.

TALK TO ARTHUR THAT'S OKAY.

I JUST, I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

UM, DONNA, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY TBD AND I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN CONTACTED, I GUESS, AS, AS MOST OF US HAVE ABOUT, UM, THE COMMUNITY'S PARTICIPATION AND THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON SOME OF THIS.

SO I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN, IN NOVEMBER.

ARE YOU PLANNING OR DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE REACHING OUT TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A WAY? AND I KNOW THEY HAD A CHANCE BEFORE AND ALL THAT THEY DID OR DIDN'T KNOW OR WHATEVER, BUT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO THAT BEFORE YOU, WE WILL PROBABLY TELL US THE VIRTUAL ME IS GOING TO BE KIND OF HARD TO DO SOMETHING IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, BUT I WILL DEFINITELY TRY TO SET UP A MEETING I'VE BEEN ASKED TO DEFER FOR 90 DAYS, WHICH WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK INTO NEXT YEAR AND THEN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE ON THE MARCH ELECTION AGENDA AT ALL.

BUT AGAIN, UH, FOR SAKE OF TIME, EVERY MEETING IS ON THE COUNCIL.

I MEAN, IT'S ON BC'S WEBSITE.

ANYBODY CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT ANY MEETING.

THE ONES THAT ARE MOST CONTROVERSIAL, I THINK ARE WHAT, UH, CHAPTERS AFTER TWO TO FOUR.

UH, BUT THERE WERE ONLY SEVERAL OF THEM THAT WHERE PEOPLE HAD ISSUES OR CONCERN.

AND SO I'M ASKING IF PEOPLE WANT TO REALLY HAVE AN ADDRESS THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE MEETINGS, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.

UH, I KNOW THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS, ADAM KNAPP AND WISDOM HAD BEEN MEETING WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I KNOW THAT ADAM HAD BEEN MEETING WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ABREAST THEM, TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR ANYTHING ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT.

SO THERE'VE BEEN HANDLED OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT IT.

AND AGAIN, AS WELL AS FOR THE PUBLIC, THEY HAVE ADDRESSED OVER THE 18 MONTHS, THE ONE PUBLIC MEETING WE HAD AND THE ITEMS ITEM DARCELL ON THE STATE'S WEBSITE.

AND I WAS AT THAT, THAT'D BE DETAIL.

REMEMBER IT WAS, IT WAS INTERESTING, BUT I DO WANT TO HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE THREE CATEGORIES.

YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BREAK IT UP INTO THREE SEPARATE PARTS, HAVE Y'ALL IDENTIFIED, LIKE WHAT'S GOING TO GO INTO EACH CATEGORY ALREADY OR YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.

UM, SO WHAT WE DISCUSSED WAS POSSIBLY BREAKING IT UP INTO, UM, SEGMENTS THAT ARE, UM, THAT MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS, MORE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT CHAPTERS TWO AND THREE GO TOGETHER.

THAT'S METRO COUNCIL THAT WAS, THAT INCLUDED THE, UM, COUNCIL RESIDENCY, THE AT-LARGE MEMBER.

UM, AND SO TO KEEP CHAPTER TWO ALONE, CHAPTER FOUR IS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, WHICH INCLUDES SOME, UM, NEW QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE CAO AND, UM, SOME NEW STAFF OR FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

SO BREAKING THAT ONE UP, UM, THERE, THERE WAS SOME CONTROVERSY AROUND THE PLANNING DIRECTOR BEING APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR THAT'S CAPPED AT 10.

UM, SO WE COULD BREAK IT UP INTO, YOU KNOW, LET, LET THE VOTERS LET Y'ALL, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THE VOTERS DECIDE WHETHER DO YOU APPROVE OF THE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER TWO SEPARATELY FROM CHAPTER FOUR SEPARATELY FROM CHAPTER 10 SEPARATELY FROM KIND OF THE NON-CONTROVERSIAL MORE CLEANUP, UM, CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE, UM, TYPE OF TYPES OF CHANGES IS THAT WE'RE PREPARED.

AND, AND, AND, AND I KNOW, AND AGAIN, I WAS PART OF THE COMEDIAN, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

AND THOSE MEETINGS WERE VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY LONG MEETINGS.

AND SO I DO UNDERSTAND SOME, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND SIT THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

AND YOU KIND OF DIGEST IT ALL.

SOMETIMES THEY'LL JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE PRODUCT IS AND THEN RESPOND.

SO I GET THAT AS WELL, CAUSE THOSE WERE SOME LONG MEETINGS, BUT I DO HAVE MY ONLY CONCERN DONNA WAS, WAS I, AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE INFORMATION AND I HAD GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION, THEN I GOT SUBSEQUENT INFORMATION WHEN I MADE THE PHONE CALL, UM, ABOUT WHAT CHANGE PURELY AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER.

I DIDN'T KNOW.

THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME IN A DOCUMENT THAT CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL THAT WERE NOT RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND SO I JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO, AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER KIND OF HAVE A REAL GOOD UNDERSTANDING.

I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WORK OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE PUT IN THERE THAT WERE NOT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMEDIAN, WHAT THOSE DAYS ACTUALLY ARE AS WELL.

SO, UM, I CAN NEXT, I ACTUALLY, IF ASHLEY WANTS TO SEND EVERYBODY AGAIN, THE LAST UPDATES OR THE LAST RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO, UH, TO THE VIBE TO THE COUNTY, I CAN DO THAT.

I CAN, UM, PROVIDE WHAT THE LAST VERSION WAS FROM THE COMMITTEE AND THEN WHAT SUGGESTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE FROM HIS COLUMN.

SO IT'S AFTER SOME TIME.

JUST SO QUESTION, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND LET THEM REVIEW THROUGH RECOMMENDATIONS OR NO, NO, NO, BECAUSE THE IDEA HAS COME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ASKED THEM, BUT THE COMMITTEE HAS COMPLETED HIS WORK.

ANYTHING ELSE UP OR DOWN CHANGES IN OR OUT IS, IS GOING TO COME FROM THIS BODY.

ALSO UP TO THIS BODY, THE THINGS THAT, THAT WERE NOT, THAT WERE, THAT WERE DEEPLY DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING, THAT WHEN I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS OR WERE NOT PART OF THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT KIND OF CONCERN ME.

BECAUSE AGAIN, THE, THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE JUST A PART OF THE COMMITTEE'S WORK, BUT IT WAS NOT LIMITED TO WHAT WE RECOMMENDED AND IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, CAN'T BE ADJUSTED OR CHANGED OR DELETED OR PUT ON THE BALLOT IN SECTION IN DIFFERENT PARTS.

SO AS NOT TO LOSE THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT.

SO THAT'S

[00:50:01]

AND SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY CONCERN AS A, AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER, BECAUSE I KNOW WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDS.

BUT I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT WAS NOT WAS, IT WAS THE ITEM THAT SHAUNA DID TO TALK, UH, WHAT DOES THE RECORD, OH, HOW ANOTHER MEMBER WAS SELECTED IN THE EVENT OF A VACANCY.

SO THAT WE'LL DO BIG OTHER THING, WHICH WOULD BECOME A PART OF THE PLAN OF GOVERNMENT IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE WAY TO GO, BECAUSE IF IT WAS ABOUT THREE THINGS, SO WE'LL TALK.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE NINE RESOLUTION WAS PRESENT ISSUANCE AND SALE AND DELIVERY OF NOTE, NOT TO EXCEED 4 MILLION, 500,000 REVENUE NOTE SERIES 2020 FOR THE ST.

COUNSELORS.

WE HAD A MOTION DELETE BY CAUSAL.

THE SECOND, MY ROCK ARE, WERE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? IF NONE, I DON'T WANT TO WAIT.

IT WAS DELETED.

[109. 20-01138]

GEORGE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT.

NUMBER TWO OF THE PARENTS OF EAST BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA, AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO.

BY THE BOND COUNCIL LADY, JAN WAS A PUBLIC CAMERA SPEAK ON ITEM ONE NINE, SAY IT ON THE PHONE.

THOSE COUNSELORS MOTION TO APPROVE THE 9,109 MOTION BY THE CHAIR.

SECOND BY WICKER.

ARE THEY ANY OBJECTIONS HERE? NOW? I DON'T WANT TO NINE IT'S BEEN APPROVED

[110. 20-01139]

ON A ONE 10 AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR.

PRESIDENT'S CUE TO SUPPLEMENT AGREEMENT.

NUMBER FOUR TO THE CONTRACT ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH 14 TABLEAU TO EIGHT OR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH MOVIE AVR CAPACITY PROJECTS.

OH, HAMMOND HIGHWAY SEGMENT ONE.

AND I'M NOT NOT TO EXCEED $539,004 AND 29 CENTS.

MY TRANSPORTATION CHANGED DIRECTOR LAYS DOWN WITH WE SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 10, SAY NON-PUBLIC CLOSE CUSTOMER MERCHANT APPROVED ITEM ONE 10 BY THE CHAIR.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY COLUMN LOUIS, ANY OBJECTIONS HERE DONE ITEM ONE 10 HAS BEEN APPROVED ON

[111. 20-01141]

ONE 11 NORTH.

THE MAYOR PROS EXECUTE CONTRACT WILL PERFORM PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH ATLAS TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS, LLC, FOR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH MOVIE BR CAPACITY PROJECT SHARE WITH FOREST EXTENSION AND AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED $955,674 AND 77 CENTS BY THE TRANSPORTATION DRAINS DIRECTOR LADY .

SAY IT ON PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

CASPER IN MOTION APPROVAL, 11 MOTION BY THE CHAIR.

SECOND BY WATSON.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE NOW I DON'T WANT 11 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

[112. 20-01143]

ITEM ONE 12 AROUND THE MAYOR PRESENT EXECUTED AGREEMENT.

I JUST GET A CONTRACT WITH GO TAKE EIGHT, PROVIDE LAND SURVEYING SERVICES AND SUPPORT THE DESIGN OF THE SOUTH HAROLD SPERRY MULTI-USE PATH AND A MOUNTAIN LIKE YOU'VE SEEN $99,946 AND 7 CENTS BY THE TRANSPORTATION DRAINS DIRECTOR.

LADIES, JUMP PUBLIC, HEARING HER SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 12.

SAY CLOSE CUSTOMER EMOTIONS PROVE IN ONE TAIL MOTION BY THE CHAIR.

SECOND BY KYLE LEWIS, THE OBJECTIONS HEARING ON ITEM ONE 12, BEEN APPROVED ITEM ONE 13

[113. 20-01144]

AUTHORIZED MAYOR.

PRESIDENT EXECUTE A CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH TREY KURKENDAHL ASSOCIATES FOR SOURCES ASSOCIATED MOVING CAPACITY PROJECTS CAN SEE BOULEVARD PERKINS CONNECTOR IN THE MOUNTAIN, ARCTIC SEA 624,000 CENTER AND $56 AND 9 CENTS OUT OF TRANSPORTATION DRAIN DIRECTOR, LADY JOHNSON, PUBLIC CARE WAS SPEAKING ON IN ONE 13, SAY NUMBERS, CLOSE COUNCILMAN MOTION.

APPROVAL ITEM ONE 13 MOTION.

BOB 13, MOTION BY LEWIS.

SECOND BY WATSON.

MATT, DO YOU WANT TO, YEAH, THE NAMES ARE NOT COMING UP.

GO AHEAD, MATT.

FRED.

I WAS PART OF THAT ZOOM MEETING THAT CAME OUT, UM, ABOUT THE PERKINS BACARDI OR THIS IS A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

WE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE BY LOOP SECOND BY WATSON OR ANY OBJECTIONS SAY NINE ONE 13 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM ONE 14.

[114. 20-01146]

I'M ON 14 NORTHWEST MAYOR PRESIDENTS.

GET A CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH STAND SALTING SERVICES, INC.

FOR FINAL PLANS, PUMP STATION, STATION DESIGN, AND OTHER SERVICES ASSOCIATED MOVIE VR CAPACITY, PROJECT CONSTANTINE DIJON AVENUE, PHASE TWO AND A MOUNTAIN.

I CAN SEE $494,793 BY THE TERM STATION, DANISH DIRECTOR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PUCK HERE, WHICH ITEM ONE 14.

STAYING ON THE PUMPKIN'S CLOSED COUNTER MOTION PROVIDING EIGHT, 14 MOTION BY LUKE SECOND BY HUDSON.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE DOWN ON ONE 14, BEEN APPROVED ON ONE 15

[115. 20-01147]

AUTHORIZED MIRROR PRESENT ACTUALLY TO CONTRACT ENGINEERING SERVICE WITH NEIL SCHAFFER EIGHT FOR PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICE FOR MOVIE VR CAPACITY, PROJECT CARDING AT ONE I ONE 10, THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $157,215 OR THE TRANSPORTATION PRANGER'S DIRECTOR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN SPEAKING WITH DEAN MOTION BY COLLINS LEWIS.

SECOND BOB HUDSON,

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ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON ITEM ONE 50 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ITEM ONE 16,

[116. 20-01148]

AUTHORIZING THEIR PRESENT ON 91, ITEM ONE 16, AUTHORIZING THEIR PRESENCE IS KEY TO CONTRACT PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH RECORD HORN EIGHT FOR SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH EDR CAPACITY PROJECT JEFFERSON HIGHWAY CORPORATE BOULEVARD, AND A MOUNTAIN HOCKEY, SAME $479,414 AND 77 CENTS BY THE TRANSPORTATION DRAWING THE DIRECTOR LATE PUBLIC PUMPKIN WAS BIG.

AN ITEM ONE 16 ST.

PAUL'S PARENTS CLOSE CUSTOMERS COUNSELING WATSON, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

THIS IS THE BIG YARD IN FRONT OF WHAT USED TO BE THE RITE AID NOW IS TEMPORARY LIKE A HALLOWEEN STORE, CORRECT? FOR THE DEDICATED RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE SOUTHBOUND JEFFERSON HIGHWAY TWO, WESTBOUND CORPORATE.

17, THE ORDINANCE 11 PROVIDING FOR THE COLLECTION OF SALES AND HOTEL OPTION TAXES WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE HARPS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR THE ASSESSMENT COLLECTION PAYMENT, DEDICATION OF SUCH TAXES AND THE PURPOSES FOR SUCH UPSET TAX AND MAY EVEN SPEND IT PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF SUCH TAXES PURSUANT TO SECTION NINE ZERO THREE 8.39 OF TITLE 33, ALTHOUGH WE'VE NEVER REVISED STATUTE OF 1950 AS A MINUTE, AND PROVIDING FOR OTHER MATTERS RELATED TO THEIR TWO BY COUNCILMAN CHANDLER LOOP.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THE, THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT SEEMS I REALIZED THE MOVIE BR NUMBERS ON THAT SAID ABOUT $2 MILLION TO BUILD A RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE.

UH, WHEN I SPOKEN TO SOME OTHER ENGINEERS, THEY WERE TELLING ME, AND THIS WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, ABOUT TWO, THREE YEARS AGO THAT EVEN WITH THE PERCENTAGE OVERAGE THAT THE ENTIRE COST TO BUILD THAT RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE MIGHT BE $650,000.

UM, YOU TELL ME WHERE THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT CAME FROM, PURCHASE ENGINEERING WITHOUT ANYTHING PUT IN THE GROUND AT ALL IN THE GROUND AT ALL.

WELL, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE OVERALL PLAN, WE'RE JUST NOT LOOKING AT THE RIGHT TURN LANE OFF OF JEFFERSON TO CORPORATE.

WHEN WE GO IN THESE AREAS, THERE ARE A LOT OF TRAFFIC INGESTION.

THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS FROM THE BIG PICTURE FROM THE OVERALL INTERSECTION ITSELF.

THOSE WERE THE DESIGNERS WE'RE LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT.

WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND SOME OF, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE TONI LEARNING MOVEMENTS.

THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUES THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OVERALL CONGESTION.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME BARRIER CURVES THAT WE ALSO WILL BE PLACING IN LOCATIONS TO PREVENT THE IMPROPER TURNING, COMING OUT OF CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS OR CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT ARE CREATING SOME OF THE SAFETY AND CONGESTION ISSUES IN THE AREA.

SO THAT'S THE REAL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS LARGER THAN JUST THAT SIMPLE TURN LANE ITSELF TO JUSTIFY THE RIGHT TURN.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A PRETTY ENHANCEMENTS AT THAT LOCATION.

MOTION TO IMPROVE AND MOTION PROVED BY WATSON SECOND BY ROCKER.

ANY OBJECTIONS HERE, NOT ON A ONE 16 HAS BEEN APPROVED ITEM ONE

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, HERE WE SPEAKING ON ITEM ONE 17, SAY NONE, PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED MOTION APPROVED BY THE SECOND BY CHAIR.

ANY OBJECTIONS SAYING THAT ON ONE 17 AND APPROVED ITEM ONE

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18, ESTABLISHING THE IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE PROGRAM FOR THE DONATION OF THE GK TO PROPERLY QUALIFY FILE AS ALLOWED BY LOUISIANA CONSTITUTION AND REVISED STATUTE 47, COLON 22 S SEC, TO PROVIDE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE PROGRAM PROVIDE FOR RELATED MARATHON PROGRAM BY COUNCILMAN SHAWNA, BANKS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ONE 18.

I'M ONE 18.

CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR? I DON'T WANT 18.

SORRY.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS ROBERT STREET, SEVEN OH FIVE.

DO THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE WE HAD ISSUES EARLIER.

THEY CORRECTED THEM NOW THE BACK, I GUESS, OH, INTEREST LOAN FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS IN NORTH BATON ROUGE, $5 MILLION TO ADD MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS FOR THE INDIGENT $5 MILLION TO FUND MEDICAL CARE AT THE PARISH PRISON, $5 MILLION SHOP FOR TAX RELIEF FOR THE POOR $5 MILLION TO FUND

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THE NEW BRIDGE SENTENCE, $5 MILLION UPON LITERACY PROGRAMS THROUGH THE LIBRARY.

YOU'RE SPEAKING ON THE ITEM DOLLARS TO FUND ADVANCED MENTAL INTERACTION TRAINING AT LEAST $5 MILLION.

FIRST RESPONSE PERSONNEL.

CAN WE NOT FIND A BETTER USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS? AND I DO MEAN OUR TAX DOLLARS AND $5 MILLION FOR THIS SETTLEMENT.

SO I WAS AT TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS WHERE I HEARD MEMBERS OF THE BATON ROUGE POLICE FORCE SPOKEN POORLY.

THEY WERE EVEN CALLED MURDERS BY A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

THEY'RE NOT SORRY FOR HARD WORK.

HELLO? DID THEY DESERVE OUR SUPPORT? DO THEY MAKE MISTAKES? YES.

SO DO WE, SO DID ALL STERLING AND WE ALL HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR MISTAKES.

ALL THE STERLING PAID FOR HIS, WHAT COULD, WHAT DID HE CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY? WHERE DO WE JUSTIFY $5 BILLION FOR HIS ATHLETES AND CHILDREN? WHERE DO YOU BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE TRIED? THIS WOULD BE TRIED AT OUR PARISH WITH OUR MEMBERS.

THIS IS ITEM ONE 18 HEARING PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM ONE 18 ITEM ONE 18 PUBLIC AREA, HALLWAY ITEM ONE 18.

SAY NOW THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED COUNCILWOMAN BANKS, EVERYBODY HEAR ME.

SO, UM, IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE IS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT I WORK WITH.

UM, BE ALL AARON.

THERE HE IS.

IF YOU WILL COME UP, IT'S OKAY FOR HIM TO SPEAK, CORRECT? YEAH.

UH, SO IN AN EFFORT NOT TO, UH, BUTCHER IT UP, I'M GOING TO LET AARON EXPLAIN THIS AGENDA ITEM.

I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT I GOT THE IDEA FROM, UM, THE SUCCESSES OF, UH, COUNCIL ON WINDOWS WICKERS.

UM, WHAT IS IT MADE MOTOR ON? AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS A BERRY, UM, AND THE ITEM THAT HAS REALLY HELPED WITH OUR COMMUNITY BEING ABLE TO ELIMINATE BLIGHT.

AND I HOPE THAT THIS PROGRAM WOULD DO THE SAME.

AND IT'S BASICALLY WHERE, UM, A CASE WHERE WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY BEING PART OF THAT EFFORT.

SO IT'S A LONG THAT BANG THAT, UM, THIS ITEM AND BECAUSE ACTUALLY DPW THE CITY WILL NOT BE ABLE ALONE TO GET RID OF AND REHAB 6,000 PROPERTIES.

AND THIS, THIS IS ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL PROCESSES WE HAVE TO SELL OR GET RID OF ADJUDICATED PROPERTY.

WE, WE, AS YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH CIVICS WARS, WE GO THROUGH OUR SALES, WE DO MOTOR HOME.

WE DO RDA.

WE HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WAYS TO TRY TO GET THESE PROPERTIES BACK INTO COMMERCE.

THIS IS ONE MORE AVENUE TO DO THAT IT ALLOWS FOR THE DONATION OF ABANDONED OR BLIGHTED JUDICATE PROPERTIES TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE QUALIFIED WITH THE IRS HAS NOT-FOR-PROFITS FOR VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSES FOR USING THOSE PROPERTIES, TO GET THEM BACK IN COMMERCE AND USE IT FOR HOUSING.

SO LIKE EVERY OTHER PROCESS, WOULD YOU GET A PROPERTY? THERE'S A CERTAIN PROCESS.

THEY GO THROUGH.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT WE WILL BE DONATING INSTEAD OF SELLING IT FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

THE CONSTITUTION ALLOWS US TO DO THAT UNDER THIS VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES, I WILL BE CHECKING EACH ONE THAT COMES IN AND WE'LL BE MAKING SURE EVERYONE QUALIFIES FOR THAT.

RENOVATE, SELL OR RENT THE PROPERTY, OR THE CITY MAINTAINS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT BACK.

AND IN CLOSING, WE TARGETING WE'RE TARGETING CHURCH PARTICIPATION BECAUSE THREE THINGS HAPPENED IN 2016.

WE LOST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HOUSING STOCK DUE TO THE FLOOD THAT HAS NEVER BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CHURCHES TO BUY PROPERTIES, UM, WITHIN 25 MILES OF THEIR CHURCH.

SO THAT INCREASES THEIR, UH, SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO BUILD A COMMUNITY AROUND THEIR CHURCH.

AND OF COURSE THE PANDEMIC FINANCIALLY HAVE HIT A LOT OF OUR CHURCHES.

SO THIS IS A WAY THAT ONCE THEY BRING IT INTO COMMERCE, NOT ONLY WILL THEY, THEY CAN RENT OR THEY CAN SELL AND THEY KEEP THE PROCEEDS.

SO THEN OUR GOAL IS HOPEFULLY ONCE THEY GET THE PROCEEDS, THEY'LL GO INTO THE NEXT HOUSE AND THE NEXT HOUSE.

AND THEY HAVE WITHIN TWO YEARS.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE HE JUST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

SHE DOES GET A LOT OF PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE WITHIN TWO YEARS TO COMPLETELY

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AND I, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, PLEASE.

MOTION, PRINT BY BANKS THERE A SECOND.

SECOND BY COLE, ANY OBJECTIONS? I HAD A QUESTION, UH, COUNCILMAN MILLER, THE NAMES ARE NOT COMING UP.

I'M JUST, OKAY.

BILLY DOES, DOES THIS GIVE NON-PROFITS LIKE A FIRST DIBS? WELL, TO THE EXTENT THAT WHEN THEY CON THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT US, TARGET A PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE WOULD RESEARCH IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE ALREADY SOMETHING GOING ON, BUT COME FIRST, COME FIRST, COME FIRST, SERVE ON WHO WOULD CONTACT US ABOUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY OPEN IT UP TO THE WIDER MARKET.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE QUESTION.

IF, IF THE WAY IT WORKS RIGHT NOW, WHETHER IT'S SENDING SOURCES TO US, PEOPLE CONTACT US ABOUT A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IT'D BE THE SAME THING HERE.

IF SO, IF JOE BLOW LLC IS A, NOT-FOR-PROFIT RECOGNIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMES IN AND SAYS, WE'VE FOUND A COUPLE OF PIECES OF PROPERTIES.

WE'D LIKE TO RESEARCH AND SEE IF WE COULD DO IT.

IF THEY WERE THE FIRST ONES TO COME IN, WE WOULD MARK IT OFF SIMILAR IF JUST A PRIVATE INVESTOR WERE TO COME IN.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? I GOT A QUESTION.

ONE 19, AUTHORIZING THE SELDOM THE MATTER ENTITLED AND DRAKE, A WILLIAMS AT ALL VERSUS CITY OF BATON ROUGE IN THE AMOUNT OF $5 MILLION TO BE PAID OUT OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD APPROPRIATE IN THE FIRST ALLOCATION MILLION DOLLARS FOR SUCH PURPOSE.

UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY YEARS AGO, WE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM HERE WHERE THE FORMERLY REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY NOW BUILD BATON ROUGE, CREATED MAPS, WHERE THEY WOULD GET FIRST DIBS ON ADJUDICATED PROPERTY.

OKAY, WELL, THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE GET FIRST DIBS ON, BUT THEY HAVE TO COME TO YOU IF THAT CHANGES PERIODICALLY.

SO THEY COME TO THE COUNCIL WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS WITH THIS QUESTION, IS, IS, ARE WE EVER GOING TO HAVE A CLASH IF FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD BETWEEN THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BE HELPED BY THIS AND BUILT THAT ROUGE WHERE SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO SETTLE.

IF BOTH ENTITIES WERE INTERESTED IN THE SAME PROPERTY, IF BOTH ARE GIVEN FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.

SO ONCE BUILD BATON ROUGE PUTS IT ON THEIR LIST AND THAT'S APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, IT STAYS ON THEIR LIST UNTIL THEY TAKE IT OFF.

NOW WE PERIODICALLY HAVE PEOPLE COME TO US THAT WANT TO RUN, AND THEY'LL GO TO FIELD VR AND SAY, ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS? ANYTHING WITH THIS PROPERTY, WE'LL PULL IT OFF AND GO THROUGH OUR REGULAR PROCESS.

SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME SCENARIO HERE.

IF SOMEONE CAME IN AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN PARTICULAR PIECE AND BUILD BATON ROUGE, HAD AN INTEREST IN IT, WE COULD ALWAYS ASK THEM AND THEY'VE NOT YET TURNED US DOWN.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY.

COUNCILORS, HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY BANK SECOND BY COLEY OBJECTIONS HERE, YOU KNOW, AN ITEM ONE 18 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

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THIS MAYOR MAY DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BY COUNCIL, ON WHICH ON THE BANK'S COUNCIL AND ERICA GREEN, COUNCILMAN LEMONT, COLE COUNCILMAN WITH DON CALLED LEWIS AND COUNCILMAN CHANDLER.

LOU LADY IN JAIL WAS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE SHOULD BE ON ITEM 13.

NOW YOU MAY SPEAK ON ONE 19.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

MY NAME IS ROBERT APPLEGATE.

I'M 37, 12 FEET IN THE STREET, BATON ROUGE, 708 OH FIVE.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE SETTLEMENT OF $5 MILLION FROM Y'ALL'S DIRECT FAMILY.

THAT FIVE DAYS DOLLARS COULD BE SPENT TOWARD PROGRAMS TO CARE FOR OUR ELDERLY $5 MILLION THAT COULD BE REMOVING LIGHT FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS $5 MILLION TO FUND THE AFTERSCHOOL EDUCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, $5 MILLION TO FUND LOW INTEREST LOANS.

FOR FIRST TIME, HOME BUYERS IN BATON ROUGE, $5 MILLION DEBT AND MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS FOR THE INDIGENT FIVE LAND DOLLARS TO FUND MEDICAL CARE AT OUR PRISON PARISH PRISON, $500 TO OFFER TAX RELIEF FOR THE POOR $5 MILLION TO FUND THE NEW BRIDGE CENTER, $5 MILLION TO FUND LITERACY PROGRAMS THROUGH THE LIBRARY, $5 MILLION UPON ADVANCED MENTAL INTERACTION TRAINING FOR POLICE FORCE $5 MILLION TO FUND ADDITIONAL FIRST RESPONSE PERSONNEL.

CAN WE NOT FIND A BETTER USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS, WHICH YOU WERE ELECTED TO STEWARD THAN IT IS? I WENT TO TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS HOSTED BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO ACTUALLY WENT AS FAR AS CALLING MEMBERS OF OUR CITY POLICE FORCE MURDERER.

PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES.

ALTON STERLING MADE ONE WHITE SALAMONI MADE ONE, BUT THEY SHOULDN'T BE, WE SHOULDN'T BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR $5 MILLION.

WHAT DID ALTON STERLING CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY? HOW MUCH TAXES DID HE GENERATE TO OUR COMMUNITY?

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WHERE DO YOU BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE TRIED? THIS WOULD BE TRIED HERE AT EAST BATON ROUGE.

IT WOULD HAVE EAST BATON ROUGE, PARISH MEMBER, UH, PEOPLE ON THE JURY.

THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T.

HOW CAN WE POSSIBLY LOOK OUR KIDS IN THE FACE AND TELL THEM TO TAKE CIVICS CLASS WHEN THEY'RE TAUGHT THAT YOU ARE STEWARDS OF THIS MONEY, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.

MY NAME IS BOB APPLEGATE, NOT ON APPLE WHITE.

THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE SPEAKING ON ITEM ONE 19 ONE 19.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.

HI, MY NAME'S KEN LAVEY AND I'M A CRIMINAL LAW PROFESSOR AT LSU.

UH, PRIMARILY YOUR, UH, YOUR MORALS OR YOUR BACKSIDE ON HER SIDE.

I AGREE WITH, UH, MS. PROPOSAL.

UM, I DON'T HAVE PARROT SPEECH.

I JUST SAY A MILLION DOLLAR SETTLEMENT WOULD BE JUST IN THIS CASE.

UM, IS THERE A LANE LIGHT MISTAKEN LEASE? UH, AND HE DID NOT DESERVE TO BE EXECUTED, UH, FOR, UH, BASED ON A TIP.

UH, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN AFTER A S THE WAY THE POLICE ESCALATED THE SITUATION HE WAS ON HIS BACK, THERE WAS, UH, ONE OF THEM YELL GUN, AND THE OTHER SHOT HIM SIX TIMES, NOTHING HE DID THAT NIGHT AND NOTHING HAD BEEN IN HIS PAST LIFE OR IT BEING SHOT AND KILLED.

SO NOT ONLY IS HE AN INNOCENT VICTIM, SO OUR CHILDREN, I THINK A $5 MILLION SETTLEMENT FOR THE LOSS OF THEIR FATHER IS JUST NOW, THERE'S ALSO A QUESTION OF WHETHER HOUSES SHOULD BE DOING THIS OR A COURT.

THIS IS BEING LITIGATED, BUT IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T THE THERAPIST, THEY RUN THE RISK THAT A COURT IS GOING TO AWARD A MUCH HIGHER SETTLEMENT.

SO IN MAYBE 5 MILLION NOW OR 20 MILLION DOWN THE ROAD.

SO, UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, IT WORKED, WORKED VERY LITTLE OR NO, NO DAMAGES.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN UNJUST RESULT.

SO THIS WOULD BE MORE EXPEDIENT, I THINK JUST, AND, UM, AGAIN, UH, I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT CONCERT.

WE BASE, WE COULDN'T HEAR ANY OF THE HEARING, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT DUPLICATED ITEM ONE 19 TO PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON ITEM ONE 19.

THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED COUNCIL MEMBERS, MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COLE.

IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND BY YOU CALIFORNIA BANKS? SECOND BY BANK, SHE WISHED TO SPEAK.

THE CITY, UM, THAT THE BAD MOODS POLICE OFFICER HIRED BLAME.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT PERSON WHO JUST FELT DR.

LEVY IS, UM, UM, A COLUMBIA LAW, UH, PROFESSOR THAT TEACHES AT LSU.

HE TEACHES TART LAW AND, UM, HE ALSO TEACHES WHITE COLLAR CRIME IN ADDITIONAL SOME OTHER, UM, CRIMINAL LAW, WHATEVER.

UH, SO BASICALLY WHAT I FOUND TO BE, UM, FOUND HIM TO BE AN EXPERT IN HIS CASE, BECAUSE, UH, WHEN I READ OVER THE PUBLICATIONS THAT HE WRITTEN, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH FREEWHEEL MORAL RESPONSIBILITY, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MORALITY AND CRIMINAL LAW.

UM, WE HAD AT OUR FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING A PROFESSOR FROM LSU AND SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY, AND IT WAS, IT THEY'RE BOTH IN BOTH OF THEIR OPINION, UM, THAT WE WERE BEING, IT WOULD DO US JUSTICE AS A CITY PARISH GOVERNMENT TO, UM, SETTLE THIS CASE.

ALSO, DR.

LIBBY ATTENDED THE SECOND MEETING AND WHICH THAT THE PUBLIC HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS, UM, FROM AN ACADEMIC POINT OF VIEW, NOT FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF A PLAINTIFF OR DEFENDANT.

AND SO MANY OF OUR QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, UM, ASK, UH, IN THE PUBLIC BE AWARE OF BECAUSE THIS CASE IS STILL IN LITIGATION.

UH, THE SPEAKER THAT WE HAD AGAINST THIS SPOKE OF, OF, UH, PEOPLE MAKING MISTAKES.

AND I WANT HER TO PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT.

AND THE FIRST MISTAKE HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT

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SALAMONI THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REPORT FOR BLAINE SALAMONI IN PARAGRAPH ONE INDICATES THAT HE HAD A LONG HISTORY OF PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. ARE WE GETTING A LITTLE TOO FAR? WELL, ACTUALLY BASED ON LAW, THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REPORT THAT IS USED TO HIRE AN EMPLOYEE IS PUBLIC INFORMATION, REGARDLESS AS TO WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS WITH THE PARISH ATTORNEY, UM, SCOTT.

BUT ANYWAY, I WAS TELLING YOU THAT WHENEVER THERE IS INFORMATION THAT WAS USED PART OF THE HIRING PROCESS, THAT IT IS NOT CONSIDERED PERSONAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE HIRED.

NOW, I'M NOT ASKING FOR A BOTTLE, CAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE NOT HERE TO ARGUE.

SO WHEN IT'S YOUR THREE MINUTES, I'M GOING TO LET YOU RESPOND, BUT IN OKAY.

FIVE.

THANKS.

SO ANYWAY, UM, IT ALSO THE FACT THAT THERE WERE NUMEROUS NUMEROUS INCIDENT WHERE BLAME SALAMONI CURSED OUT AND FOUGHT HIS, UH, FELLOW OFFICERS, UH, TWO WEEKS LEADING UP TO BLAINE, SALAMONI MURDERING OULTON STERLING.

HE ALSO HAD SEVERAL INCIDENTS WHERE HE DID THE EXACT SAME THING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT IS TOTALLY OUT OF ORDER THAT NEPOTISM, WHICH IS, WAS REPORTED BY THE ADVOCATE WAS SUCH A PERVERSE PART OF HIS HIRING OF HIM BEING PROTECTED, UM, FROM, UM, NORMAL, UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

I HAD, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF EVERYBODY READ THE POST, UM, REPORT REGARDING HIS RECORD.

IT IS AN ATROCITY.

SO ON ONE HAND, YES, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE NEGLIGENT RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BATON ROUGE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

LASTLY, AFTON STERLING BLAMES ALIMONY IS NOT JUST POINT OF ORDER PLEASE.

1.0 POINT OF ORDER.

AND SHOWN, UH, WE'RE ON THE SAME SIDE ON THIS.

UM, BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS A GAG ORDER IN PLACE.

NO, NO.

CALIFORNIA HAD A POINTER.

ONE ORDER IS NOT A GENERAL GAG ORDER IN PLACE YET.

THERE'S BEEN A MOTION FILED TO, TO, TO, UH, SEEK A GENERAL GAG ORDER.

THE IS A SPECIFIC ORDER FROM THE SUPREME COURT THOUGH REGARDING THAT PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM, IT SAYS IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DISSEMINATED OR DISCUSSING WITH ANYONE OTHER THAN THE PARTY, THE PSYCHOLOGICAL REPORT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR TIME.

YOU DON'T GET YOUR TIME.

I'M JUST GOING TO CLEAR IT UP WITH HIM.

AND THEN, UM, CAN YOU ADVISE US WHEN SOMEBODY VIOLATES? YES.

THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING HERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORDERS ARE.

YEAH, SHE PROBABLY DOES.

UM, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO STAY HERE.

THAT'S MY POINT, ANDY.

I THINK, NO, THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING HERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNSEL, ON THAT, YOU HAD LIKE A MINUTE AND A HALF LEFT ON THE FIRST FIVE.

SO BASICALLY THE SUPREME COURT RT INDICATED THAT IF ANY, ONE OF THE PARTIES AND I AM PART OF THE PARTY DID NOT, DID NOT WANT TO DISCUSS, BUT I'M PART OF THE PARTY.

SO YES, I AM GOING TO DISCUSS IT AND I, EXCUSE ME, I DID THAT.

I NOPE.

WAIT, WAIT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME, BUT MOVING ON WHAT I WANTED TO DO, WHAT WE ARE, UM, WHAT WE ARE.

I LOST MY WHOLE TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

I KEEP GETTING INTERRUPTED.

UM, I'LL GIVE YOU MY FIVE MINUTES SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT LONG.

TRIAL DATE IN MARCH WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH DISPOSITIVE MOTIONS, OR WE HAVEN'T DESCRIBED THE MOTION HEARING ON MONDAY NINTH.

BUT WHAT I, NOW I'M MOVING, I'M TRYING TO MOVE ON.

UM, I JUST HOPE THAT EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL, EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID THAT WE HAVE READ IT FOR OURSELVES, THAT, AND THERE, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, UM, NORLAND BAR TO HAVE A, UM, GAG AUDIT AT THIS POINT WHEN THE MEDIA HAS NOT ONLY THE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND I DIDN'T GIVE IT TO HIM AND THE POST AND THE POSTED TURTLE.

SO IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY MUTE AND ALL OF YOU ALL, UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN BIG, GOOD STEWARDS OF, UM, THIS PROCESS ALSO HAVE IT, BUT THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILWOMAN ROCCO, MR. DOTSON.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SIR.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS WITH REGARDS TO LITIGATION CURRENTLY DISCOVERY? UH, WELL LET ME SAY THIS TO YOU.

WE HAVE A

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WE HAVE ANOTHER HEARING IN JANUARY.

I DON'T HAVE THE DATE IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER HEARING IN JANUARY FOR DISPOSITIVE MOTION.

AND THE TRIAL IS GOING TO BEGIN IN MARCH.

WE HAVE CONDUCTED SEVERAL DEPOSITIONS THAT WERE SCHEDULED BEFORE COVID.

NOW THAT COVID IS OVER AND WE HAVE SOME PARAMETERS THAT WE CAN HAVE OF THE DEPOSITION.

UH, WE HAD, MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE SOME TOMORROW, OR WE HAD SOME LAST WEEK, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN FULL LITIGATION.

SO, SIR, UM, WHENEVER YOU SAY YOU HAD MOTIONS ARE READ IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT THERE WAS A MOTION WITH REGARD TO HOW HE, LIKE, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT MOTION WAS AND EXPLAINED TO US VERY BRIEFLY? WHAT YEAH.

IT WAS THE MOST OF THE SUMMARY JUDGMENT FILED BY MR. KERSHAW, WHO WAS A CONFLICT, CONFLICT WAS HIRED BY THE CITY OF REPRESENT, UH, OFFICER HOLLY LAKE.

OUR MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT IS A, IS A MOST IMPROV BY PARTYING IS HARD TO TALK WITH THIS MAN.

UH, IF ANYBODY WANTS ME TO PUT IT BACK ON THROUGH THE MAIL, A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT IS A, IS A MECHANISM FILED BY A PARTY THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT THERE'S NO GENUINE ISSUE OF MATERIAL FACT.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT DISPUTES THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO A JUDGMENT AS A MATTER OF LAW ON THE SPECIFIC ISSUE.

AND THAT ISSUE DEALT WITH WHETHER OR NOT, UH, OFFICER LAKE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR LACK OF A GENERAL PHRASE, I'M PARAPHRASING FOR THIS, FOR THIS MATTER, THE OFFICER LAKE HAS BEEN RELEASED FROM THE SETTLEMENT HAS BEEN DISMISSED.

THAT IS CORRECT.

IS THERE ANY TYPE OF MOTION SIMILAR TO THAT PENDING CURRENT? YES.

UH, THE COUNSELOR, I SAW HIM HERE EARLY.

THE COUNSEL FOR MR. BLAINE SALVO HAS ALSO FILED A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT THAT IS SET FOR MONDAY ON NOVEMBER 9TH.

THAT'S PART OF THE DISPOSITIVE MOTIONS THAT WE HAD SET FOR MONDAY.

CAN YOU TELL ME THE POTENTIAL RESULTS EITHER WAY FOR THAT MOTION? OKAY.

'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE JUDGES ARE GOING TO DO.

I JUST KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN FILED, UH, AND HE'S SEEKING THE SAME OR SIMILAR.

WE SEE HE'S SEEKING SIMILAR RELIEF.

HE'S SEEKING THE, UH, DIFFERENT VARYING ISSUES AND DIFFERENT VARIOUS CONCLUSIONS, UH, THAT I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY GET INTO TODAY, BUT IT IS THE MOST FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT SEEKING TO LIMIT OR TAKE AWAY ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR BLAME SELMA.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT MOTION IS GRANTED ON THE NINTH? UH, IF THE MOTION IS GRANTED ON THE NINTH, THEY WILL CAUSE THE CASE TO BE LOOKED AT THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS IN TERMS OF THE VALUE OF THE CASE.

AND IT TURNS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY PERIOD.

UM, AT THIS POINT, DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SETTLEMENT OR ARE YOU GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THAT MEETING TO BE ABLE TO ADVISE US ON THAT? NOT UP TO ME, COUNCILWOMAN IT'S FOR SETTLEMENT COMES THROUGH A CLAIMS REVIEW PROCESS.

WHICH IS DONE BY ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR LITIGATION SECTION AND MYSELF AND WE ARE THE ENTITY PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE AND THE ORDINANCES THAT DECIDE WHAT AUTHORITY OR WHAT AMOUNT OF CASE SHOULD BE VALUED.

AND WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET.

SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S STILL SOMEWHAT PREMATURE FOR US TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM.

I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT.

I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO DO AS A COUNCIL SEATS FIT SUBJECT TO COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S DECIDED TODAY, IF THIS SPACE SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THE $5 MILLION SETTLEMENT.

IT WOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETED.

THERE'S STILL BY STATUTE.

THE REQUIREMENT TO DISMANTLE GOES BEFORE THE CLAIM REVIEW PROCESS.

AND THAT THERE'D BE THE CONCURRENCE OF MY OFFICE THROUGH THE CLAIMS REVIEW PROCESS, BEFORE IT COULD BE STAMPED AS SUFFICIENT AND THEN PROVIDED TO PLAINTIFFS.

AND PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. DOTSON, IF I MAY SPEAK, UM, AS AN ATTORNEY, BASED UPON OUR CONVERSATION WITH OUR LEGAL ADVISOR, I JUST, I NEEDED TO TELL MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HEAR YOU.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR SENTIMENTS, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS PREMATURE GIVING THE UPCOMING COURT DATE OF NOVEMBER 9TH.

AFTER THAT WE'LL HAVE A BETTER EVALUATION OF WHERE WE STAND.

UM, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE COURT'S OPINION IS AS TO WHERE THIS CASE IS PROCEDURALLY.

AND I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE DEFERRED UNTIL AFTER THAT MEETING.

ARE YOU MAKING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, COUNCILWOMAN? YES, SIR.

YOU WANT TO DEFER IT FOR TWO WEEKS? 30 DAYS? YES, SIR.

THREE WEEKS, THREE WEEKS, THREE WEEKS.

WHAT? OUR BASE LIPSKY, NOVEMBER 10, NOVEMBER 24TH, DECEMBER 8TH, DECEMBER 9TH.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

COUNCILMAN.

THEY GOT A FEW PEOPLE AHEAD OF, YOU WANT ME TO SHOW YOU? GIVE ME THE ROTATION? OKAY.

WE HAD A MOTION TO DEFER FOR TWO, THREE WEEKS BY DECEMBER COUNCILWOMAN ROCCA.

IS THERE A SECOND ON THE DEFERMENT? IS THERE A SECOND ON THE DEFERMENT SECOND BY LOOP? YOU CAN PICK UP.

NOW I HAVE A COUNCILMAN.

UH, OH, YOU PARENTS COUNCIL WANTING TO ROCKET? YES, SIR.

CAN YOU COUNCILMAN LUKE, YOU'RE UP TO BAT MOM.

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UH, ANDY.

UM, I WASN'T REALLY GOING TO ASK YOU ANY QUESTION, BUT, UH, I DO HAVE, UH, ONE OR TWO.

HAVE WE, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

UM, WHAT AM I ASK? IT'S HARD TO HEAR.

OH, IT'S HARD TO HEAR ME.

YOU MIND THOUGHT I'LL KEEP IT.

HOW ARE YOU DOING ANDY? WELL, YES.

HAVE WE DONE AN OFFER OF JUDGMENT? NO, SIR.

UH, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MAYBE LIKE SIX MONTHS AGO.

UM, COULD, COULD YOU LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? YOU WANT AN OPINION FROM MY OFFICE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD MAKE AN OFFER OF JUDGMENT IN THIS MATTER? YES, SIR.

LIKE AN OFFER OF JUDGMENT THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS LIKE, NOT HOW IT WORKS.

WE TALKED ABOUT DOING IT SIX MONTHS AGO, SO WE CAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

NO COUNCIL.

WELL ACTUALLY IT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO.

I THINK WHEN YOU FIRST WE HAD OUR FIRST MEAL, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO IT WAS, BUT I RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW FOR SURE.

SO FOR BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL AND OFFER A JUDGMENT, IF WE MADE AN OFFER JUDGMENT, WHATEVER THE FIGURE IS, AND THEY DON'T WIN A TRIAL, WE WOULD, UH, POTENTIALLY NOT HAVE TO PAY THEIR ATTORNEY'S FEES.

AND, UM, THEY WOULD OWE US ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS.

AND SO WE MAY BE TOO LATE IN DOING THAT SINCE TRIALS IN MARCH.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BENEFIT OF IT IS, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAD THEM DO THAT DADDY, BUT YOU KNOW, AT SIR, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT.

NOW WE CAN DISCUSS AS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT IT, IT DID NOT FALL ON DEAF EARS, SIR.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CONSIDERED ALONG THE WAY.

BUT AT THIS TIME WE JUST HAVEN'T MADE THAT DECISION YET, BUT WE CAN TALK FURTHER OR WE CAN HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS, NOT INTERESTED, BUT I'LL PROVIDE YOU AN OPINION.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE, WELL, YOU HAD DONE IT.

SO, I MEAN, I ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOUR OPINION IS.

AND YOU SAID YOU ALREADY DISCUSSED IT AND SO YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT EVIDENTLY.

SO I SAID, OKAY, WELL ON OFFER A JUDGMENT, DOESN'T DO AS A HILL OF BEANS.

NOW THAT IT'S THE TRIALS ALREADY IN MARCH, RIGHT? IT'S YOUR OPINION, SIR.

TOMMY CIVIL JURY TRIALS, HAVE YOU TRIED ANDY TO A VERDICT? SORRY.

HOW MANY CIVIL JURY I'M ASKING? HE'S OFFENDING US.

YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING THAT GERMANE TO THE TOPIC SO WELL, WHO'S DEFENDING THIS ANNOUNCED AND STERLING.

I AM ALONG WITH COURTNEY HOFFMAN.

HOW MANY IS COURTNEY? TRIED TO A JURY TO THE TALK.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER HER ANSWER ZERO.

I'M JUST ASKING YOURS.

AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

HAVE YOU EVER TRIED A CIVIL RIGHTS CASE? LIKE THIS ONE? I'M NOT ANSWERING THAT QUESTION EITHER, SIR.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE STAFF AT PARISH ATTORNEY THAT HAS EVER TRIED A CIVIL RIGHTS CASE TO A JURY, TO A VERDICT? I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY STAT SHEET WITH ME HERE, BUT I CAN PROVIDE THAT ANSWER TO YOU AT A LATER DATE.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHETHER WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S ACTUALLY, I KNOW TEDRICK HAS, RIGHT, BUT HE'S NO LONGER WITH THIS OFFICER.

YEAH, I KNOW THAT.

UM, OKAY.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S EVER DONE THIS KIND OF CASE TO A VERDICT STANDING UP THERE NOW TODAY AND YOU WON'T TELL ME WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE DONE ONE OF THESE TO A VERDICT AND I'M NOT TRYING TO EMBARRASS YOU BECAUSE I'VE NEVER TRIED A CIVIL RIGHTS CASE TO A JURY.

I'VE BEEN PRACTICING 31 YEARS.

I'VE NEVER DONE IT.

IF SOMEBODY ASKS ME IF I WAS QUALIFIED TO DO THAT, I WOULD SAY NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

NOW I CAN TRY A CASE TO A JURY.

I DID THAT THREE WEEKS AGO.

SO LOOK AT AN OFFER, A JUDGMENT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD TOOL.

WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE USED IT ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

UM, YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THAT? OBVIOUSLY? I DIDN'T SAY THAT, SIR.

UM, HAVE YOU DONE ANY QUANTUM TYPE ANALYSIS ON THIS CASE? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SIR.

ANY UPDATED QUANTUM SINCE THE MEDIATION? YES, WE HAVE MS. THE SOFTWARE HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT IT RECENTLY AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT, SIR.

CAN YOU SEND IT TO, I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE MUCH LONGER, BUT CAN YOU SAY WE HAVE IT AVAILABLE IN THE OFFICE? ANYBODY WANTS TO COME BY AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT? WE'LL BE GLAD TO PROVIDE.

SO WE'RE NOT DISSEMINATING THINGS.

SURE.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE CASE, IT'S IN MY OFFICE AND AVAILABLE FOR THEM.

WELL, IT WASN'T LIKE THAT, BUT SOMEBODY EVIDENTLY IF, YEAH.

I GOT, UM, I GOT A LOT MORE CAUTION.

UM, I GOT 10 MINUTES.

I MIGHT AS WELL.

HUH? I ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS AND LUCK.

UM, SEE, I WASN'T GET, EVEN ASK ANY QUESTIONS, ANDY.

THIS IS GOING TO SIT UP HERE.

HI COUNSELOR.

COME ON.

Y'ALL LET'S GET YOU WANT TO DO YOU GOT A QUESTION? YEAH,

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SO, UM, LEAD ATTORNEY WOULD BE YOU.

AND THEN MS. COURTNEY WOULD BE SECOND CHAIR ON THE TRIAL.

WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY DESIGNATIONS.

LIKE I TOLD YOU, THERE'S THREE ATTORNEYS ASSIGNED TO TRY THIS CASE, SIR.

MYSELF, COURTNEY HUFFORD AND DIDI MOORE.

UM, SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.

WHAT'S THAT? SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT OUTSIDE.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT.

SHE'S NOT HERE.

THANKS, ANDY.

I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK.

I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

I RESERVE MY RIGHT TO CROSS EXAMINE YOU ON ANOTHER NIGHT.

I THINK HE HAS OFFICIAL CROSS EXAMINATION TONIGHT.

I COULDN'T RESIST.

I'M MESSING WITH YOU.

OF COURSE YOU CAN RESERVE ANY RETRO.

SO YOUR ACCOUNT, WELL, NOT FOR MUCH LONGER, COUNCILMAN YOU THOUGH.

I GOT FIVE MINUTES LEFT.

SO, UH, UM, CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCILMAN HUDSON.

MY QUESTION IS, IS MOSTLY FOR COURTNEY.

COURTNEY.

YOU SENT AN EMAIL TO US TODAY THAT SAID IN SUMMARY, ANY AMOUNT APPROVED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT, STILL PURSUANT TO APPLICABLE LAW HAS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CLAIMS REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL APPROVED BY CLAIMS REVIEW COMMITTEE.

THE PARISH ATTORNEY WILL CONTACT PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL AND PRESENT THEM WITH THE AMOUNT FOR SETTLEMENT PURPOSES.

PLAINTIFFS CAN THEN ACCEPT OR REJECT THE AMOUNT.

UM, SO I ATTENDED VIRTUALLY I THINK, WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE ROCCA COUNCIL AND THE WICKER AND COUNCIL OF THE BANKS AND IT TO AS WELL, THE CLAIMS REVIEW PROCESS.

WHAT I THOUGHT WAS FOR THIS ITEM AND IF I'M WRONG, CORRECT ME.

BUT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IN THAT CLAIM REVIEW PROCESS.

SO, SO BECAUSE IT WAS A DIFFERENT AMOUNT IN THAT ITEM IS NOT THE SAME THING.

UM, WHAT THEN HAPPENS IF THE CLAIM, IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WHAT HAPPENS IF CLAIMS REVIEW REJECTS IT, IT JUST NEWTON IS DEAD.

COUNCIL ACTION IS SO THE POINT OF GOING TO CLAIM, THEN THE POINT OF GOING THE CLAIMS REVIEW IS THAT, SO THEN WE CAN PRESENT THE AMOUNT TO PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL, BUT IF CLAIMS REVIEW DOES NOT APPROVE, BUT THEN THERE'S NOTHING TO SO EFFECTIVELY AT THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOES NOT AGREE WITH THIS ITEM.

AND WE KNOW THEY DON'T EDDY AS A SET AS MUCH, YOU CAN EFFECTIVELY OVERRIDE WHAT THE DON'T.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU COURTNEY, I'M SAYING YOUR PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN EFFECTIVELY OVERRIDE THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL ON THE ITEM.

NO, ON THIS ITEM, IF YOU ALL, IF YOU ALL APPROVE IT, IF YOU ALL APPROVE IT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO A CLAIMS REVIEW AND ALLOW THEM TO REVIEW AND APPROVE.

IF THEY APPROVE IT, THEN WE THEN GO TO PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT, UH, METRO COUNCIL HAS APPROVED.

AND OUR OFFICE HAS APPROVED, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF FAVOR JACKET, BUT IF CLAIMS REVIEW WITH, OH, WELL WHO, IF, WHO REJECTS, IF CLAIMS REVIEW DOES NOT APPROVE IT, THEN THAT THEN WE'RE STOPPED.

THEN WE DON'T, WE DON'T PRESENT ANYTHING TO PLAINTIFF.

THAT IS NATURAL.

ANDY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CONCUR WITH THAT ANALYSIS.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

UM, I DON'T WANT TO SAY TO LODGE, BUT THE WAY IT'S BEING DONE RIGHT NOW IS IT'S KIND OF BACKWARDS FROM HOW IT'S NORMALLY NOT.

NORMALLY WE PRESENT YOU ALL LIKE, HEY, WE'VE TALKED TO PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL ALREADY.

WE'VE AGREED ON THE NUMBER WHEN YOU RECRUIT, THEY DID FIVE, UH, CAR CRASH SETTLEMENTS TONIGHT.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

UM, SO ON THE WORDING OF THE ITEM, UH, WHEN WE HEARD THIS A MONTH, TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO, WHENEVER IT WAS, UM, I THINK AT THAT TIME AND COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN LEWIS MAY BE ABLE TO CORRECT ME ON THIS, BUT WE DID HAVE OFFER OF JUDGMENT ON THAT ITEM.

OR AM I GETTING THAT INCORRECT OR NOT? OR JUDGMENT WAS IN THE ITEM? EH, NO, WE WE'VE HAD ALL HER JUDGMENT AND I THINK GOING THREE PRIOR.

I'M LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION.

SO, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS I, I, I KNOW OUR POLICY FOR PAYING OUT OFFERS OF JUDGMENT.

COUNCILMAN LUKE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF IT.

GO AHEAD.

PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE OTHER SIDE TO ACCEPT THE SETTLEMENT BECAUSE, OKAY, I GOT YOU.

SO AN OFFER JUDGMENT IS ILLEGAL MEANS.

SO IF I'M GOING TO TRY A CAR WRECK CASE AND THE CITY OFFERS ME 50,000 AND I GO TO TRIAL AND ONLY GET 25,000, THE CITY CAN COLLECT THEIR COSTS AND ATTORNEY'S, AND IT CUTS OFF MY ATTORNEY'S FEET IS SO IT'S A WAY OF

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AS I UNDERSTOOD THE LAST ITEM THAT WE HEARD, THERE WAS AN, THAT IT WAS ADVANTAGEOUS THE WAY IT WAS WORDED BECAUSE OF OUR POLICY ON PAYING OUT, UH, OVER TIME.

AND AS I READ THIS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

AM, AM I CORRECT IN HOW IT'S WRITTEN OR CAN YOU CORRECT ME, ANDY? NO, I THINK THE WAY, AND I DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF ME, IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE PAID OUT.

I THINK THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S PROVIDED IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PAID OUT IN INCREMENTS OVER, OVER TIME.

BUT AS I UNDERSTOOD THE LAST ITEM, IT COULD BE PAID OUT OVER AN EVEN LONGER TERM BASED ON OUR POLICY FOR PAYING IT OUT.

BUT W I GUESS WHAT SHE'S SAYING, COUNCILMAN IS THAT THIS, BY PUTTING THOSE STIPULATIONS INTO THE MAYOR, IT PUTS US IN THE SAME SITUATION.

WOULD'VE PUT IT IN INTO THE GERMAN.

AND I GOT, JUST WAS DONE WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF FINANCE AND THE WAY THAT IT'S DRAFTED HERE OR THE UNDERSTANDING IN THE APPROVAL OF FINDINGS.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FINISHED, COUNCILMAN.

COUNSEL AND WICKER.

WELL, THAT'S, I REALLY HOPE THIS QUESTION WASN'T ALREADY ASKED, BUT, UH, AND THIS ISN'T FOR YOU, ANDY, PROBABLY IT MAY BE MORE FOR CHINA.

I REMEMBER HAVING A CONVERSATION SOMEWHERE, UM, THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THE SOURCE OF WHERE THE 5 MILLION WOULD COME FROM AND IT HASN'T BEEN IDENTIFIED.

AND SO, NUMBER ONE, CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO THAT FORMAL? SO IF FINANCE WOULD COME UP, PLEASE, AND ALSO THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I WANT TO ASK IS WHY SHE'S COMING CHINA IS I WANTED TO KNOW, I DON'T Y'ALL MAY HAVE HAD IT JUST WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION IS ON THIS, THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY LEAVING THEM BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'D HAVE TO, ULTIMATELY, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS ASKED AND IT SAID THAT THEY HAD NO PROBLEM WITH WHATEVER THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL.

IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE SOURCE OF THE, OF THE FUND, IT'S ALREADY IN A RESERVE, SHE'LL TELL YOU, OKAY.

WHERE WOULD THE SOURCE OF, FOR THE BUDGET SUPPLEMENT FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS BEFORE OUR INSURANCE RESERVE BALANCES.

AND BACK ON AUGUST 12TH, WE GAVE A LIMPY POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT DESCRIBED THE PROCESS AND THE BALANCES.

AT THAT TIME, WE HAD ABOUT $19 MILLION IN INSURANCE RESERVE FUNDS.

WE SPENT A MILLION, SO WE'RE DOWN TO 18.

SO THAT MILLION WOULD COME OUT OF THERE.

AND ANY FUTURE, THE FUTURE PAYMENTS, WE WOULD CONSIDER THOSE AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THEY COULD COME OUT OF THIS FUND.

THEY COULD COME OUT OF EXCESS SALES TAX COLLECTIONS.

WE COULD HAVE TO REDUCE SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUDGET TO PAY FOR THEM.

IT JUST, YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND MAKE THAT DECISION AT THAT TIME.

SO INSURANCE RESERVE BONDS IS THE FIRST TATTOO AND THAT'S, THAT'S, WE WE'VE SAVED THOSE MONIES OVER THE YEARS TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, TO PAY FOR OUR CONTINGENT LIABILITIES AND CLAIMS THAT COME UP.

AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT BECAUSE WE'RE, SELF-INSURED THAT WE, WE HAVE GATHERED OVER THE YEARS IN ORDER TO PAY THOSE, WE HAVE $18 MILLION IN RESERVES AND, UH, OUR LAST ANNUAL REPORT WE HAD ABOUT 64 MILLION IN CONTINGENT LIABILITY ESTIMATES.

YOU MENTIONED A VARIATION OF DIFFERENT POSSIBLE SOURCES OUTSIDE OF THE INSURANCE RESERVE FUND.

SO, UH, UH, YOU, WHEN YOU WALKED UP THERE, YOU SAID A BILLION.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU MISSPOKE OR IF YOU WERE REALLY BEING IN A BILLION.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S $5 MILLION SETTLEMENT, A MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

BUDGET SALTS WE'LL DO ABOUT JUST SUPPLEMENT, BUT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE APPROPRIATING THE MONEY TO PAY THE FIRST MILLION.

AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE WOULD ADDRESS THE NEXT MAY.

AND I DON'T HAVE TIME TO PUT IT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET NEXT YEAR'S MILLION BECAUSE WE'RE PRESENTING IT TOMORROW.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO DO A BUDGET SUPPLEMENT, PROBABLY TO DO THE 2021 PAYMENT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT THE BEST SOURCE OF FUNDING.

IT MAY BE THE INSURANCE RESERVE FUND THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF COVID WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS SALES TAX COLLECTIONS RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T HAVE AN EXCESS REVENUE SOURCE TO, TO, TO COME UP WITH HOLD ON IT AND APPROVE IT.

IT'S DONE NO OTHER, COUNCIL'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO A BUDGET SUPPLEMENT EVERY TIME.

YES, MAY.

WELL, THIS ONE ONLY TAKE CARE OF THIS BUDGET.

SETTLEMENT WILL ONLY TAKE CARE OF THE INITIAL MILLION DOLLARS, BUT, BUT ONCE THAT THIS IS APPROVED AND IT'S A LIABILITY AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS, WE WILL PROVIDE FOR THOSE PAYMENTS IN, IN, IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS OR ANY

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SO I BILL TO SEE IF WE APPROVE IT.

IF THE MAYOR SIGNS BUDGET SOFT.

MA'AM CALIFORNIA GREEN.

UM, I THINK MY QUESTION IS FOR ANDY, IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, DWIGHT, UH, COUNCILMAN HUDSON, UM, HAD MENTIONED.

SO HE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE IF THE, UM, UH, THE, THE WHITE END OF THAT, IF THE, UM, CLAIMED REVIEW COMMITTEE, IF IT GOES TO THE CLAIMS REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN REJECT IT.

UM, MY QUESTION IS IF IT PASSES, THE CLAIMS REVIEW COMMITTEE CAN THEN THE PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEY SAY THAT THEY, THEY REJECT THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN, AS COURTNEY SAID, IT'S KIND OF BACKWARDS WHAT WE USUALLY DO.

USUALLY WHEN HE GOT THEIR CONSENT AND AGREEMENT TO SETTLE, THEN WE GO TO CLAIMS REVIEW, GET THAT APPROVAL.

THEN WE COME TO COUNSELING.

SO BY THE TIME WE PUT IT BEFORE, Y'ALL ALL OF THAT IS IN PLACE.

THERE'S NO QUESTION THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE HER ALL.

THEY WANT TO KNOWS WHEN THE CHECK IS COMING.

OH, YOU KNOW, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE CAN GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS AND GO THROUGH THE, OF YOUR PROCESS AND HAVE EVERYTHING PUT IN PLACE.

HAD THE FINANCE, UH, PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE AND THEY CAN SAY NO.

ANY OTHER COUNSELING CALLS LEWIS? UM, I'M SORRY.

SHE HAD, I MEAN, I'M SORRY.

I'M CONSTANTLY ROCK.

I HAD A QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO HELP AND ASK.

UM, IS THERE ALTERNATIVE AFTER THAT? IF, IF THEY, IF THEY SAY NO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NEGOTIATING AT THAT POINT, BUT YOU HAVE TO COME BACK.

NO, WE DON'T GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN.

SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO, AFTER ANY JUNCTION, WHETHER IT BE AFTER MONDAY'S HEARING OR AFTER WHATEVER HEARING IS, OR WHATEVER, JUXTA MAKERS THAT WE HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT OF US, I SAID, WE WILL PUT IT THROUGH GLAZERS.

YOU FIRST GET THE CONSENT, A CLASS REVIEW, AND THEN WE WILL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

LIKE WE DO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT COMES FROM OUR OFFICE.

ANY OTHER AMOUNT THAT WILL COME UP? THANK YOU.

THIS IS FOR LONDON.

LINDA, CAN YOU COME BACK UP? SO YOU SAID THE MAYA WOULD BE PUT, WE HAVE TO DO A BUDGET SUPPLEMENT FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO WHAT, WHAT IS COMING OUT? WHAT, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET NOW FOR INSURANCE? DOES INSURANCE CLAIM? THAT'S IN THE BUDGET NOW.

SO AT THIS POINT, YOU ALL, IT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET, SO I DON'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET.

THAT'S COMING OUT TOMORROW, NOT THIS ITEM, RIGHT? SO THIS ITEM WILL HOW THEY BUDGET SUPPLEMENT AND THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THAT BUDGET SUPPLEMENT WILL BE THE INSURANCE.

THESE ARE FINE.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'LL PAY THE FIRST MINUTE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING YOU.

I'M ASKING YOU ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR CURRENT CLAIMS AGAINST US.

NO, MA'AM WHAT WE DO HAVE IS WE DO HAVE A, UM, A ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR COMPROMISED JUDGMENTS.

THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

SO THAT IS IF WE HAVE ACTUAL JUDGMENTS AGAINST US, IF PEOPLE STIPULATE TO CERTAIN THINGS LIKE AGREEING NOT TO PAY INTEREST IN THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY CAN GET A PRO-RATA SHARE OF THAT MILLION DOLLARS TO PAY THOSE JUDGEMENTS.

AND WE PUT DOWN IN THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY RIGHT NOW THAT THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING PAID OUT.

SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TO THE COUNCIL AND YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE THE INSURANCE FOUND THAT THE POTENTIAL MONEY COULD COME OUT OF EXCESS, UH, SALES TAXES AND JUST IN THE GENERAL BUDGET ITSELF.

IF WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AT THAT TIME.

LET ME, LET ME ASK UNDERSTAND.

I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERRUPT, BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE DONE THIS IN THE GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET, SETTLED CLAIMS OF ANY COMPARABLE SIZE LIKE THIS? UM, I HAVE SOME, I HAVE SOME IN MY FAULT.

THERE'S NOT THAT MANY, BUT I FOUND TWO INSTANCES IN THE PAST WHERE WE HAD DONE THAT MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

YOU SAID ONLY TWO TIMES, TWO TIMES THAT I HAVE FOUND HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT.

I, I CAN GO GET THEM AND LET YOU KNOW.

I JUST WANT TO GET AN IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, HOW, CAUSE WHEN YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT CUTTING THE BUDGET, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A CONCERN.

SO I WOULD NOT NEVER WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF SOMEBODY'S BUDGET.

I WOULD REALLY RATHER GO BACK TO THE FUND ITSELF.

SO YOU SAID IT'S BEEN TWICE.

LET'S JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN THEY WERE DONE.

LET'S SAY WE ON RECESS AND TISSUE RETURN.

DO YOU WANT ME TO GO GET HIM TO COME BACK? WE ON RECESS,

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I'M GOOD.

YOU COMING? OH, OKAY.

YOU'RE NEXT? COUNCILMAN COLA.

OH YEAH, NO, NO.

I WAS JUST WANT TO, IF WE PATIENTS, IF WE COULD TALK, I'M TRYING TO GET RID OF ONE TIME AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AROUND TO DRINK THAT STUFF.

SO LET'S SEE.

HERE'S ONE THAT I PULLED THAT WAS A SETTLEMENT IN 2014.

LET'S SEE, TO BE PAID OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

IT WAS 2,500,008 38 POINT 64.

AND WHAT WAS IT FOR? IT WAS FOR MICHAEL GODFREY VERSUS THE CITY PARISH FOR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CASE IS.

IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT THE CASE.

I JUST PULLED THE RESOLUTION.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL VOTED TO SETTLE? YES, MA'AM.

2.8 MILLION.

THERE WAS AT ONE INDIVIDUAL.

SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS.

SO, UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST FIND OUT, I KNOW THAT WE DON'T, I GUESS I'M JUST MAKING THE POINT THAT WE'VE DONE THIS AND WE HAVE DONE THIS AND THAT'S PASSED AND I MADE SURE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE PAID THINGS LIKE THIS OVER TIME IN THE PAST.

I GET IT.

BUT I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE, THE TWO WHAT'S THE OTHER AMOUNT, BUT HE YELLED AT THE SECOND ONE.

WHATEVER HAPPENS TONIGHT.

I NEED TO KNOW THE TWO THAT WE HAD.

WHEN DID WE WIN THE DATES ON THE TWO? AND WHAT WERE THEY FOR? WAS IT FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL? I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME NOW.

I JUST WANT YOU TO I'LL GET THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT I NEED THAT BEFORE THEN.

I'D STILL WANT TO KNOW REGARDLESS.

AND IF I'M HELPING ME, IF I'M CORRECT, NO MATTER WHAT DECISION WE MAKE TONIGHT, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, IT WOULD GO TO CLAIMS REVIEW, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

AND CLAIMS REVIEW COULD DENY.

AND THEN THERE WOULD BE NO PAYMENT MADE AT THAT TIME.

WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP NEXT DAY? WE'LL WE WILL CONTINUE LITIGATION UNTIL WE GET TO A POINT THAT THE PARTIES COME TO SOME KIND OF OTHER AMICABLE AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN BRING BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, MANY OF US WHO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVE APPROACHED YOUR SITUATION BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE JUST EXPLAINED, UH, COMPLETELY WRONG.

UH, SOME OF US HAVE TAKEN A SIZE THAT HAVE BECOME VERY POLARIZING FOR THE CITY.

I THINK TONIGHT WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY, UH, GREAT NIGHT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE ALL PREPARED TO MOVE BEYOND THIS SITUATION AS A COUNCIL DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE THINK IS GOOD OR NOT GOOD.

I THINK THE MEDIA, THE WORKING MEDIA NOW HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THE GENERAL PUBLIC FULLY UNDERSTANDS NO MATTER WHAT DECISION WE MAKE TONIGHT, HERE ARE THE GENERAL STEPS.

SO IF WE APPROVE HERE ARE THE STEPS, BUT THE COUNCIL MADE A DECISION TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD BY SAYING, UH, WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE THIS SITUATION TO A THIRD COUNCIL.

SO I THINK IF WE WERE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS TONIGHT, AND I RECOGNIZE, AND I SAT IN ONE OF THE CLAIM REVIEW PROCESS PROCESSES, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS.

I THINK IF, UH, A DOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE CONCERNED ON WHAT MESSAGE DOES SENDS TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF APPROVING A $5 MILLION SETTLEMENT, I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT MESSAGE IS SENSITIVE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD PROGRESSIVELY, IN TERMS OF PUTTING BEHIND ONE OF THE MORE TRAGIC INCIDENTS WE'VE EVER FACED IN THE CITY, UH, PARTICULARLY DURING THE 40 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN BATON ROUGE.

AND SO, UM, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION HERE, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE IT IN THE MEDIA, TO CONTINUE TO SEE SOME OF THE MUSCLING AND THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT INDIVIDUALS, ABOUT CLASSES OF INDIVIDUALS, ABOUT RACES OF PEOPLE DOESN'T SERVE THIS COMMUNITY WELL AT ALL.

AND, UH, WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT AND DISCUSS, UH, WHAT WE WANT TO SEE GOOD HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THIS DEAL HANGS OVER OUR HEAD.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT HANGS OVER OUR HEAD AND ALMOST EVERY DECISION WE MAKE AND HANGS OVER OUR HEAD IN TERMS OF HOW WE INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.

IT HANGS OVER OUR HEAD.

WHEN WE SEE EACH OTHER, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY IN GROCERY STORES AND RESTAURANTS AT SCHOOLS, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DISCUSSING IT AND PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO CONNECT IN A WAY THAT I THINK BATON ROUGE AND TRULY KNOW HOW AND HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

AND SO, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS HERE TONIGHT, IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT AS A COUNCIL, UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HEADED ON YOUR WAY OUT, UH, WITH ONLY FOUR MEETINGS, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY REELECTED THOSE OF US WHO HOPE TO BE ELECTED ON DECEMBER FOUR, YOU KNOW, LORD WILLING TO CREEK DERIVE

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DECEMBER 5TH, EXCUSE ME.

UH, I THINK WE CAN SEND IT A STRONG MESSAGE THAT WE, UH, MIGHT NOT AGREE ON THE DECISION TO SETTLE THE CASE AT ALL, OFFER A JUDGMENT AT A PARTICULAR NUMBER, BUT WE ALL AGREE THAT IT'S HIGH TIME THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE DEALT WITH THIS FOR THE LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH IS ALL 12 OF US, UH, ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, ARE READY TO PUT THIS BEHIND US AND BRING ABOUT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF HEALING.

AND SO AGAIN, I KNOW I MADE THE MOTION IT'S BEEN SECONDED.

I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT YOU ALL AGREE, LET'S MOVE IT TO THE CLAIMS REVIEW, GET IT OFF US AND GIVE IT TO THEM AND LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION.

AND THEN ONCE THEY HAVE THEIR DISCUSSION, IT GOES BACK TO LITIGATION.

IF IT GOES TO TRIAL, I THINK WE'VE DONE.

WE WOULD HAVE DONE OUR PROCESS TO SAY TO THE CITY.

AND SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY TALKING A GREAT DEAL ABOUT WHO'S RIGHT, AND WHO'S WRONG.

I DO HAVE AN OPINION.

I DON'T THINK ALTON STERLING DESERVE TO DIE ON JULY 5TH, 2016.

I DO THINK THERE WERE SOME MISTAKES MADE, BUT I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN MORE MISTAKES MADE SINCE THAT NIGHT BY, UH, THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AS GENERAL CITIZENS IN TERMS OF FEELING LIKE WE HAD TO TAKE POLARIZING SIDES AND THEN BE NEGATIVE TOWARDS EACH OTHER.

AND I THINK IT'S HIGH TIME.

WE THINK ABOUT, UH, OUR CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GROWING UP IN THIS CITY, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY? UH, WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF VIOLENT CRIME, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WE'RE DEALING WITH A PANDEMIC.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND THIS CONTINUES TO HOLD US FOUR YEARS BEHIND.

AND EVERY YEAR WE, UH, EVERY CALENDAR YEAR THAT CHANGES WE'LL BE ANOTHER YEAR BEHIND WILL BE ANOTHER YEAR BEHIND SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH THIS.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME WHO WERE SAYING THAT THEY GO TO TRIAL, BUT IF A JUDGMENT GOES TO TRIAL, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD GO THERE WITHOUT US HAVING EXERCISED ALL POSSIBILITIES OF US, MAKING A DECISION ABOUT IT SINCE IT HAS BEEN A SUICIDE TO DEAL WITH IT FOR SO LONG.

SO I WOULD EMPLOY MY COLLEAGUES TO AGREE.

LET'S GET THIS OFF OF US, SETTLE THE CASE AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.

AND LET ME JUST SAY AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

IF I MAY, MY OFFICE HAS SAID CONSISTENTLY THAT WE AGREE THAT THIS MATTER, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY PAYS FOR THIS MATTER TO BE SETTLED.

IT JUST TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT AVENUE WITHIN WHICH TO SET UP.

SO, SO I AGREE WITH JOHNNY, YES, COUNCILMAN BANKS.

UM, MY SENTIMENTS AS IT RELATES TO WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN COLE HAS INDICATED, UM, I HAVE FELT LIKE I HAVE HAD TO BE THE, THE ATTORNEY TO GET THIS THING MOVING WITHOUT BEING AN ATTORNEY.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THE PARISH ATTORNEY INDICATES IS THE PROCESS I HAVE FOLLOWED THOSE STEPS AND I HAVE NOT FOLLOWED IT WITH THEIR BLESSINGS OR SUPPORT.

UM, SO THAT'S THE PART THAT MAKES ME, UM, SOMEWHAT SAD IS MY WHOLE GOAL IS TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

SO IF WE'RE TOLD THAT THE CLAIMS REVIEW, UM, IS A PROCESS BY WHICH CASES ARE APPROVED OR NOT.

HOWEVER, I HAVE REQUESTED COPIES OF PAST SETTLEMENTS WITH THE MEETING, UM, THE MEETING NOTES FOR CLAIMS AND THEY DON'T EXIST.

UH, TONIGHT LENDER HAS GIVEN US IN FINANCE TWO DATES IN 21 AND 2014.

TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO ASK ONCE AGAIN FOR THE CLAIMS REVIEW COMMITTEE WHERE THAT SETTLEMENT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE LITIGATION COMMITTEE, UH, THE PARISH ATTORNEY HAS INDICATED, UM, THAT, THAT THE PROCESS IS THAT YOU GO TO THE PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEY AND WITH A SETTLEMENT AND SEE IF THEY APPROVE IT.

AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, HAS THE PLAINTIFF EVER BROUGHT A SETTLEMENT REQUEST TO YOU? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO DISCUSS IN THE OPEN MAN.

WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH SAYING THAT IT'S NO VIOLATION AT ALL TO JUST KNOW A SIMPLE QUESTION.

HAS THE PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEY OFFERED A SETTLEMENT? IT'S A YES OR NO.

AND THAT'S THAT? THAT IS WHY I'M MOVING FORWARD.

I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION.

ON MARCH 12, 2018, THE PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEY

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REQUESTED A SETTLEMENT.

NOW, ACCORDING TO THE PARISH ATTORNEY, THAT SETTLEMENT SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THE CLAIMS REVIEW COMMITTEE.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU THIS WAS ANY SETTLEMENT EVER REGARDING THIS STAYCATION EVER WITH BEFORE THE REVIEW.

AMAZING.

THE ONLY ANSWER I WOULD ANY FULL ANSWER I WOULD GIVE YOU HAD TO BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I WILL CONFIRM THAT YOUR MATTER THAT YOU WANTED US TO CONSIDER WENT THROUGH CLAIMS REVIEW PROCESS.

WHY WOULD YOU, IS IT OKAY FOR YOU TO SAY THAT ONE, BUT NOT IT'S ALREADY BEING DISCLOSED BY YOU EARLIER, MAN.

I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.

I'VE NEVER BROUGHT THAT.

I HAVE NOT SAID THAT'S NOT TRUE.

I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE IT DID COME OUT THOUGH BY WHOM.

WELL, I JUST BROUGHT UP THAT COURTNEY DON'T YOU DARE.

I HAVE JUST BROUGHT OUT THAT ON MARCH 12, 2018, SINCE THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT YOU'VE SET A CLAIM, A SETTLEMENT WAS REQUESTED.

AND I, SINCE I, THE, ALL YOU WANT IS THAT THEY BROUGHT IT TO BE BROUGHT OUT.

AND I'M ASKING YOU, BASED ON YOUR PROCESS, DID IT GO TO THE CLIENT'S REVIEW COMMITTEE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? MA'AM YOU SAID WHAT I TOLD YOU THAT I'M NOT GOING TO DISCUSS IT.

AND SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

THAT'S WHY THIS CASE FOR TWO YEARS CANNOT GO FORTH.

AND ALL I'M TRYING TO DO AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO THIS COUNCIL IS MOVE US FORWARD.

BUT W THE OBSTRUCTION IS FROM OUR SIDE AND THERE IS, I HAVE READ THE POLICY BOOK REGARDING THE CLAIMS REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IT IS ONLY A MECHANISM BY WHICH THERE'S A DISCUSSION IT IN NO WAY MANDATES WHAT THIS COUNCIL DOES.

IT IS LIKE A CLEARING HOUSE.

THAT'S 10 SECONDS.

BASED ON THERE IS, IF IT IS, IT WILL BE IN WRITING.

IT IS NOT IN WRITING.

HAS ANYONE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID IS INCORRECT AND NOT VALIDATED TIME'S UP.

COUNCILWOMAN, UH, IS DARRYL I'M SORRY, IS DARRYL DARRYL? MY QUESTION, I GUESS IS, AND I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT UP W WHERE'S THE MAYOR'S POSITION ON THIS PAYING IT.

YES OR NO.

I THINK THE MAYOR IS INTERESTED IN THE COUNCIL REACHING A DECISION AND TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS.

SO THAT'S A, YES.

SHE WANTS TO PAY THE $5 MILLION.

WELL, I THINK SHE BELIEVES IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL AND SHE BELIEVES IT NEEDS TO BE SETTLED IN ORDER TO HELP THEM NEARLY $5 MILLION.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER.

I MEAN, I THINK HER STATEMENT'S ALWAYS BEEN CLEAR THAT IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION AND SHE THINKS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED IN ORDER FOR THE COMMUNITY TO THE FLOOR.

WELL, I'LL JUST TAKE THAT AS A YES.

UH, I GUESS, I MEAN, LOOK, I RESPECT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THIS, UH, PROBABLY MET WITH MICHAEL ADAMS PROBABLY A FEW YEARS BACK, AND HE KNEW MY POSITION ON THIS AND TO VOTE FOR DEFERRAL.

I CAN'T DO, AND I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 5 MILLION EITHER.

I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD AND WE VOTE ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IN THE LAST THREE YEARS IN THE LAST YEAR.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY MORE COMMENTS.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION DONE FIRST.

AND THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WAS TO DEFER TO THE NOVEMBER 24TH MEETING BY ROCCA SECOND BY LUPE AND WE'LL VOTE ON THE MACHINES.

THAT'S FOR A DEFERRAL TO THE NOVEMBER 24TH MEETING BY ROCK.

A SECOND BOTTLE MACHINES ARE OPEN.

NO MOTION FAILS.

NO.

DID YOU VOTE? NO.

YOU HAVE A COUNT WHEN IT WAS, UH, THREE DAYS, SIX DAYS, UM, AND ONE ABSENT.

SIX DAYS, FIVE DAYS, THE MOTION FAILS.

COUNCIL MERGER.

WE HAD THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM ONE 19 BY KOHL'S.

SECOND BY BANKS WE'LL VOTE ON THE MACHINES FOR APPROVAL.

ONE 19 MACHINES ARE OPEN

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COUNCILORS GO.

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IT KEEPS GOING IN AND OUT.

I'M COMFORTABLE.

KEEPS GOING.

AMENDING THE CODE ONE 20 OF MANY OF THE CODE OF WARRANTS IN THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE, PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE.

TITLE NINE HAS TO ADD CHAPTER 24 SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES RELATIVE REGULATING OPERATORS SHARE MOBILITY DEVICES INTO ESTABLISHED PERMITTING FOR THE SAME BY COUNCILMAN HUDSON, COUNCILWOMAN WICKER, COUNCILMAN GREEN, COUNCILWOMAN ROCCA, COUNCILWOMAN, AND MOROSA LASER JAILED BY SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 20, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

COUNSEL JOHN SNOW ON PINE STREET.

UH, I'VE BEEN HONORED SERVANTS COMMITTEE.

THAT WAS A SYMBOL TO INSURANCE BUILDING ORDINANCE.

I WANT TO COMMEND THE COUNCIL FOR TAKING THIS UP HARRISON INTEGRATION.

I'VE HEARD ALL THE MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER, BEING STAKEHOLDER'S NEEDS ARE CITIES INTO OTHER COMMUNITIES AS TO HOW THEY INSTRUCT HER COMFORTABLE.

THIS IS, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR MANY MONTHS.

NOW.

I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN ONGOING WITH A VERY STRONG LEVEL OF, HENCE I WOULD FOCUS ON BOTH INNOVATION IN A CERTAIN WAY, WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS WITH RESPECT TO ADDITIONAL MOBILITY OPTIONS, OPTIONS, BUT ALSO WITH SAFETY.

I, TO TALK ABOUT ABILITY OF ELECTRIC MOTORIZED MOBILITY FOR STREETS THAT, UH, WHILE EXCITING, IT ALSO HAS BEEN A PROCESS THAT LEAD THE COUNCIL AND ALL THOSE INVOLVED IN THIS COMPENSATION EXERCISE, A GREAT DEAL.

SO I WANT TO COMMEND EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN A PART OF THE PROCESS.

UH, I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ORDINANCES THAT SHOWS THAT WE NEED TO BE ARE FORWARD THINKING OR LOOKING, TAKING OUR TIME, PUTTING TOGETHER THE FRAMEWORK ON THIS ORDINANCE THAT I BELIEVE THAT, UH, AND IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE QUALITY MEASURES AND EXTEND BEYOND WHAT WE DO AS ADDITIONAL OPTIONS.

UH, AND SO, UH, I THINK THAT IN, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ORDINANCE, HOW IT'S CONSTRUCTURE IT PROVIDES FOR VENDORS TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT TO DO SO WITH THE DISTRICT LEVEL OF RIGOR AND OVERSIGHT, I'M A STRONG BELIEVER THAT IT BALANCES ALL POTENTIAL CONCERNS AND OR ELEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS.

SO I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS CORRESPONDING.

UH, I, UH, OKAY.

LET ME JUMP TO PUBLIC GAIN.

LET'S PICK ON ITEM ONE 20, ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM ONE 20? OKAY.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED DAVIDSON'S YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, AND I WANNA TO COMMEND THE COMMITTEE THAT WORKED ON THE DAVIS ROAD, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT COMMITTEE COMMITTEE THAT WORKED ON THIS FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS, BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE SEEN STUDIED A LOT OF OTHER CITIES.

AND I THINK THAT ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS CASTLE.

I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS WITH, UH, WITH, UH, MR. RECORD'S OFFICE AND WE'RE VIEWING THIS.

WE, WE DEALT WITH THE GOTCHA BIKES AND, AND HOW TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WORKED OUT EXTREMELY WELL AND STUFF.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THAT.

SO I AM JUST WANTING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF IT AS WELL.

OKAY, LADIES, JOHN'S A PUBLIC GAME WISE, SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 20 PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED COUNTER MEMBERS, COUNCIL MINUTES.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE JUST A BRIEF MOMENT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THE WORK THEY DID.

UM, WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, PARTICIPATION AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS, UH, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PARTICIPATION FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF FRED SPECIFICALLY.

HAS GONE UNCHECKED AND OTHER AREAS, THE WAY WE'VE CRAFTED THIS ORDINANCE, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES ALL THOSE THINGS, ADDRESSES SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES WITH THE POWER THAT WE'VE INVESTED INTO IN FRED'S OFFICE.

ALSO ONE OF THE THANK COUNCILMAN ELECT ROWDY GO DAY.

HE PLAYED A REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THIS PROCESS WHEN WE FIRST GOT IT STARTED, BUT PARTICULARLY I WANTED TO THANK, UH, JOHN SNOW.

UH, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE NAMED THIS ORDINANCE, THE JOHN SNOW ORDINANCE FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HE DID ON IT, NO BENEFIT TO HIMSELF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, THE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH THAT HE DID, UH, JUST WAS TREMENDOUS.

AND I THINK WE REALLY CAME UP WITH A GOOD ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU SEE WITH THESE, UH, SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES AND OTHER AREAS.

SO THAT'S SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES AS THE ROLLOUT

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SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH IT.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE PARTICIPATION WE GOT FROM DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, THE UNIVERSITIES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, OKAY.

WE HAD A MOTION BY HUDSON AND THE SECOND BAR WICKER, AND I THINK CALIFORNIA, BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO SPEAK.

I DO.

I JUST WANT TO, UM, TO CONCUR WITH, UM, WITH COUNCILMAN, UM, THE COUNCILMAN HUDSON PRETTY CHECKED OUT FOR A MOMENT.

SORRY.

SO SORRY TO, I SPENT A LONG NIGHT.

UM, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST THANK HIM THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS, KNOWING THAT THANK COURTNEY TO WHO, WHO DID AN ACTUALLY EXCEPTIONAL JOB OF JUST CORRALLING EVERYBODY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD SECTION BY SECTION WHAT THIS MEANT.

UM, AND, UM, SO I I'LL, I'LL SAY THIS AND I'M A LITTLE HESITANT AND THIS MAY BE AWFUL, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE STUFF THAT I SAY ENDED UP IN CAMPAIGN SPEECHES, BUT, UM, I'M SORRY.

UM, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, THAT, UM, I HAVE SIX CHILDREN, ALL OF WHICH START AT THE AGE OF THE MILLENNIALS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GENERATION A AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, IF WE THINK THAT TRANSPORTATION FITS INTO ONE CATEGORY, WHETHER IT BE BUS, BUS, RAPID TRANSIT, SCOOTERS, WHATEVER, UM, WE'VE MISSED A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CONNECT WITH THIS NEXT GENERATION, THIS GENERATION FOR US AND, AND FRED, AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, GETTING OUR DRIVER'S LICENSE WAS KIND OF A RITE OF PASSAGE.

WE LIVE FOR THAT.

NOW YOU ALMOST HAVE TO BEG THE KIDS, HEY, DO YOU WANT TO GET YOUR LICENSE? THEY REALLY DON'T CARE.

SO THEIR, THEIR IDEA OF TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY IS SOMETHING VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.

AND SO I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT MAJOR CITIES, BATON ROUGE WANTS TO BE BIG CITY.

I THINK WE NEED TO ACT LIKE BIG CITY.

AND SO THIS GIVES US A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AND A COMPETITIVE EDGE TO BE ABLE TO REALLY LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION IN A VERY UNIQUE WAY THAT ALLOWS US TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN A LOT OF OUR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND YOUNG GENERATION THAT SIMPLY THINK VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO.

SO AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

DWIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, A LOT OF THIS TOOK PLACE IN DOWNTOWN, SO HE WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO ALLOW ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE, BE INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION.

IT WAS A LOT OF WORK AGAIN THAT WENT INTO THIS COMMITTEE.

AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

FRED FRED, FOR THE BENEFIT OF FOLKS WHO WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND ANY OF THESE MEETINGS AND MAYBE HAVE DIFFICULTY READING THE THINGS THAT ARE ONLINE RIGHT NOW THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING RIGHT NOW WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

COULD YOU TELL FOLKS AT HOME THAT MAY BE HESITANT ABOUT HAVING SCOOTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES DIFFICULTY MAINTAINING ORDER AS TO SCOOTERS BEING LEFT, THE POWER GOES OUT AND THEY JUST GET LEFT.

I'VE SEEN THAT MYSELF IN A BIG CITY, WASHINGTON, DC, WHERE IT WAS JUST LAID OUT.

SO TELL, TELL ME, AND THEN, AND THE FOLKS AT HOME, HOW YOU SOLVED THOSE ISSUES.

WELL, I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY WE'VE SOLVED THOSE ISSUES.

I THINK EVERY TIME THAT WE GO INTO A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, YOU ALWAYS HAVE CHALLENGES.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THEY WILL DEAL WITH.

I THINK THAT THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE IN PUT IN THE ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW US THAT FLEXIBILITY.

AND THE FACT THAT IF YOU ARE BORN, ARE THESE VENDORS WILL, THE ACTUAL FEES ARE GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED, I THINK WILL HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS THAT MAY BE GENERATED FOR OUR PEOPLE TO HAVE TO GO MOVE SOMETHING THAT MAY BE A VIOLATION.

UH, YOU KNOW, YES, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVE THESE PROBLEMS. I HAD PROBLEMS WITH MY CHAIR.

I MEAN, THOSE SAME ISSUES WERE EXISTING OUT THERE, BUT BIKES HAVE NOW BECOME A MORE COMMON ON THE ROADWAYS.

CERTAINLY I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY HAS ASKED AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT SCOOTERS.

AND I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT.

UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY BASED ON THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE IN THIS ORDINANCE, IT GIVES US THE LATITUDE OR THE, THE ACTUAL ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO, IF YOU ALL WANT TO KNOW SELECTED VENDORS AND IT GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, WE'RE GOING TO PULL YOUR PERMIT.

AND IF THEY'RE SITTING OUT IN THE STREET, WE'RE GOING TO PICK THEM UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY A FINE ASSOCIATE WITH THAT FOOT, FOR THE SCOOTER LANE OUT IN THE AREA.

AND THERE'S A COST FOR IMPOUNDING THE SCOOTER, BUT ALSO FOR THE COLLECTION.

AND THAT'S GOOD.

SO, I MEAN, WELL, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS.

NEW ALWAYS HAS THIS PROBLEMS,

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BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK THROUGH THOSE JUST LIKE WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE BIKE SHARE WHERE, UH, WHAT GOTCHA.

WE HAD ISSUES, PUTTING THEM IN THE BACK END TO THE BIKE RACKS, BUT THAT IT'S GOTTEN MUCH BETTER.

AND I THINK, UH, THIS CAN PROBABLY FIT THE SAME MODE AS, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE BIKE SHARE.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR IT.

I'M, I'M ALWAYS BEEN A SUPPORTER OF MULTIMODAL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.

I'M COMMITTED TO RIDING MY BICYCLE ALL OVER THE PLACE MYSELF, AND I'VE BEEN A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR THE BICYCLE, THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE GOT HERE.

I NEEDED YOU TO TELL THOSE FOLKS AT HOME THAT HAVE SENT ME STUFF, UH, HUNDREDS OF BIKES BEING PULLED OUT A PROGRAM CREEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE MORE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION IN REGARDS TO THIS PROGRAM.

I THINK WE HAVE THE, AGAIN, THE COMPONENTS IN THIS ARE ONE, IT STILL ALLOWS US NOT ONLY TO, TO ADDRESS IT, BUT ALSO ADDRESS IT FINANCIALLY, WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY IN THE PAST.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE TO GO PICK UP SCOOTERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, OR THAT'S GOING TO BE ON.

THE ONUS WILL BE ON THE COMPANY.

IT WILL, IT WILL.

WELL, FIRST OFF, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE COURT AND TO THE ORDINANCE AND WE WILL NOTIFY THEM IF THEY DON'T DO IT, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

AND TO START CHARGING THEIR TICKET CONTINUED TO BE A PROBLEM.

AND WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE STEPS TO YOU TO ISSUE ADDITIONAL WARNINGS OR PULL THE PERMIT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COME OUT HERE AND MAKE THE INVESTMENT THAT THESE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO MAKE, THEY DON'T LIKE TO BE TOLD, I WANT TO PULL YOUR PERMIT.

ONE LAST QUESTION.

UH, SO PART OF THE SELECTION OF THE COMPANIES THAT WOULD BRING THE SCOOTERS HERE IS THAT THEY WOULD MAINTAIN SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE STAFF MEMBER OF THAT COMPANY WOULD BE HERE SO THAT THEY COULD GO AND BE IMMEDIATELY RESPONSIVE TO A COMPLAINT OF A DISCARDED SCOOTER.

THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL AND OBJECTIVE.

I WOULD JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE FOR AN RFQ.

AND CERTAINLY I GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE THAT I CAN CALL AND SAY, HEY, YOUR SCOOTER IS NOT IN COMPLIANT.

THE CORRAL THAT YOU PUT UP, IT'S NOT IN THE AREA WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY LOCALLY.

AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO AS LONG AS WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY HERE FROM THE COMPANIES TO RESPOND, RATHER THAN PUTTING THAT EXTRA BURDEN ON OUR ALREADY OVERWORKED STAFF, I CAN SUPPORT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILMAN HUDSON.

I THINK HE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH SOME AMENDMENTS.

I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN WICKER.

NO, JUST, UM, FRED, I DIDN'T, UM, I ADMITTED YOU FROM THE THANK YOU.

LISTEN, I DO WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE YOU WORK REALLY HARD AND I'M A BIG FAN THAT YOU JUST FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT ON THIS COMMITTEE, FRED WAS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL DAY.

AND I SAID, FRED, YOU CAN'T ACT LIKE AN OLD MAN.

WE GOT TO COME INTO THE RENEW, THE NEW GENERATION AND, AND HE GRACIOUSLY.

SO, SO MAN, I THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT BECAUSE FRED, IF ANYBODY ELSE, HE'S GOING TO BE THE STICKLER TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE AND IT'S DONE.

CAUSE HE, HE WAS LIKE, NAH, Y'ALL, BUT I APPRECIATE JUST THE WORK THAT YOU WENT INTO THIS, I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT THAT WENT INTO CONSIDERATIONS AND GOING BACK AND FORTH AND YOU GUYS REALLY DID A GREAT JOB AND DIDN'T THROW IT OUT, OUT THE DOOR AND SAY NO.

COUNCILMAN HUDSON, YOU HAD SOME AMENDMENTS AND SHE AGREED TO WHEN SHE SECONDS IT TO YOUR AMENDMENTS.

SO SHE THINKS SHE'LL AGREE TO IT.

SO THE AMENDMENT THAT I'LL MAKE IS THAT WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STRIKING THROUGH STRIKING, THROUGH THE REQUIREMENT FOR TURN SIGNALS AND SIDE VIEW MIRRORS.

WELL, FIRST I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMAN WATSON FOR HIS REMARKS, BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, I WAS LIKE FRED, WHEN I FIRST PICKED UP THIS IDEA, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE APPROACHED BY BRAC ABOUT THIS AND I TOLD HIM I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT I'M I'M FOR SCOOTERS.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT SOME OF THE PIECES THAT WE'VE ADDED TO THIS ARE REALLY GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE.

AND I'LL JUST TOUCH ON THEM REAL BRIEFLY.

I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT FIRST THERE'S ONLY TWO LICENSES THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW.

SO THAT'S TWO ABILITIES TO OPERATE COMMERCIALLY WITHIN OUR RIGHT OF WAY, IS HOW WE'RE ABLE TO CONTROL THAT.

AND WE'RE LIMITING THE NUMBER OF SCOOTERS AVAILABLE FOR BOTH OF THOSE LICENSES.

SO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN A LOT OF OTHER CITIES IS, IS YOU GET SCOOTER OPERATORS THAT COME IN, THEY DROP IN SCOOTERS OVER THE NIGHT, THEY'RE ALL OVER TOWN.

IT'S A MESS.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN IN ANY SPANISH PARISH.

AND WE HAVEN'T BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT FRED'S OFFICES HAS BEEN DOING.

SECOND, WE'VE GOT A CORRAL TO CORRAL REQUIREMENT.

AND SO THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT SCOOTERS BLOCKING UP OUR SIDEWALKS.

WE HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF PARKING AVAILABLE DOWNTOWN.

WE'RE NOT LIKE SAN ANTONIO, WHERE IF A SCOOTER'S PARKED IN A PARKING SPOT, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

IT IS A BIG DEAL IN DOWNTOWN BATON ROUGE.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT.

WE'VE GOT THE FINES AND THE INBOUND FEES AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT ARE KIND OF THE CONTROL MECHANISM.

BUT THEN WE ALSO GOT THAT ULTIMATELY THE ABILITY TO PULL THEIR LICENSE.

SO I THINK THOSE DIFFERENT MECHANISMS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE WE'VE REALLY GOT THE APPROPRIATE SAFEGUARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS DONE IN A WAY THAT HAS A RESPECT FOR QUALITY OF PLACE, BUT THEN ALSO SAFETY.

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IT'S OUR INTENTION THAT THROUGH THE RFQ PROCESS, WE'RE STILL GONNA ENCOURAGE, UH, TURN SIGNALS INSIDE VIEW MIRRORS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A STRONG REQUIREMENT FOR IT BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY OF THESE OPERATORS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY.

AND IT'S NOT NORMAL WITHIN THAT MARKET.

THERE APPARENTLY ARE SOME THAT CAN DO IT, BUT NOT ALL.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO RESTRICTIVE IN THE WAY THAT WE CRAFT THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.

SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

UH, SO COUNCIL MEMBERS MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN HUDSON.

SECOND BACK COUNCIL WOMAN WICKER IS TO APPROVE AS AMENDED TO REMOVE THE LANGUAGE ABOUT TURN SIGNALS AND SIDE VIEW MIRRORS.

UM, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS, CNN ITEM ONE 20 IS A PRAYER OF COUNSELORS.

YOU GO

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TO ITEM ONE 21 MEETING THE CODE OF ORANGES OR THE CITY OF BATON ROUGE, PAIRS OF EAST BATON ROUGE, TITLE 11.

SO AS TO ADD CHAPTER 19 ELECTRIC LOW-SPEED SCOOTERS BY COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN, HUDSON COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN GREEN, COUPLE WOMAN, GREEN COUNCILWOMAN ROCCA AND COUNCILWOMAN EMMA ROSSO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, A PUBLIC AREA WHICH SHOULD BE ON ITEM ONE 21 ST.

ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED COUNCILMAN HUDSON MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM ONE, ONE 21 BY HUDSON SECOND BY WICKER.

AND ANY OBJECTIONS HEARING ON ITEM ONE 21 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

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ONE 22, I MEAN, TITLE ONE CHAPTER, ONE PART, ONE RULES AND PROCEDURES OF SECTION 1.7, CONDUCTING OF MEETINGS, PUBLIC HEARINGS OF THE CODE OF ORANGES OF CITY OF BATON ROUGE, PARISH OF EAST BATTERY.

SO IT'S THE MEN AND RE-ENACT COHEN SEVEN.

THERE ARE RELATIVE TO CONDUCTING A MEETINGS, PUBLIC AREAS TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT BY ELECTRONIC MEANS PRIOR TO THE MEETING BY COUNCILWOMAN BANKS, LAYS AND GELS ARE PUBLIC ENGLISH, ONE 22, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M JENNIFER, OR WHILE, UH, 1855.

IT WILL TWAIN, UH, THIS TIME I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF PROGRESSIVE SOCIAL NETWORK.

I'M UP HERE TODAY BECAUSE OUR PRESIDENT JENNIFER HURTING, UH, WOULD PREFER TO BE SPEAKING, UM, HAS ELDERLY PARENTS, UH, THAT SHE'S RESPONSIBLE AS THE PRIMARY CARETAKER FOR, UH, SO SHE'S NOT ABLE TO, UH, MY LIFE, UM, I DON'T HAVE PARENTS OR CHILDREN OR, UH, IT'S IT'S SO I'M THE ONE THAT GETS TO TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

UM, THOSE WHO HAVE, UH, AN INTEREST IN METRO COUNCIL MEETINGS, UM, WHO WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC HAVEN'T HURT, UM, WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, ELECTRONICALLY SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS AND HAVING THE CREDIT FOR THE RECORD.

UH, Y'ALL DID THIS IN THE BEGINNING WHEN HE MET HER, ACTUALLY, UM, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A LOT MORE, UH, PARTICIPATION AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A GOOD WAY, UM, TO HAVE, UM, PARTICIPATION AND, AND OFFICER TRUST.

WHAT'S THE, UH, PUBLIC HEAD AND, UH, THE COUNCIL, UM, SCHOOL BOARD DOES THIS.

PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO, UH, SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS ELECTRONICALLY AND THEY ARE WITHIN THE COMMENT, UH, INTO THE RECORD AS PART OF THE MEETING.

WE HAVE THE CHILD DO THIS AS WELL.

THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, A PUBLIC HEARING, WE SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 22 PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ITEM ONE 22, ZERO MOTION MOTION ONE 22.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

WE ON ITEM ONE 22 MOTION TO APPROVE.

UH, SO IF WE DO, I MEAN, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED.

I'M SO SORRY.

THAT COMES, BUT IF THE EMAIL INDICATES THE ITEM NUMBER AND COMPLETES THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE ON A PUBLIC CARD AND THEY SPECIFICALLY REQUEST THAT IT'D BE READ A LOT.

SO, UM, AS WE FOUND TODAY, UH, THIS PANDEMIC HAVE, HAVE US, UH, WAITING IN UNCHARTERED TERRITORY.

AND SO I JUST AM A FIRM BELIEVER IN EVERYONE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE STATE ARE STILL ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT IS THROUGH ELECTRONIC MEANS.

AND, UM, SO I DON'T SEE WHY THIS COUNCIL WOULD NOT.

I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC WHERE NOT THE, EVERY EMAIL

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I THINK THAT OUR COUNTY, THAT THIS COUNCIL, UM, SHOULD OBLIGE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, WE RECENTLY HAD, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, AN ELECTION AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL MAKING CONCESSIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, WHO ARE, UH, IMPACTED IN SOME WAY NEGATIVELY AS IT RELATES TO THE PANDEMIC.

UH, WHETHER IT IS THAT THEY HAVE A CONDITION OR THEY'RE CARING FOR A RELATIVE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND SO I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD NOT HINDER PEOPLE IN ANY WAY.

AND EVEN WITH THIS, THE WAY WE HAVE IT, NOW, WE ARE LIMITING THE CAPACITY OF PERSONS AT THE LIBRARY.

SO YOU, NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME WAY, UM, FOR FORBIDDING A PERSON'S, UM, FIRST AMENDMENT, RIGHT.

TO, UM, TO SPEAK.

AND SO I JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, UM, AND THAT WE JUST COME UP WITH THE SPECIFIC, SO WE AREN'T READING EVERY ITEM AND THAT IF AN ITEM IS MISS, WE DO NOT HAVE TO GO BACK.

AND, UM, WITH THE HEARING ALL OVER AGAIN, BECAUSE I, I IT'S THAT IT'S LIKE, THIS IS JUST PART OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PANDEMIC.

AND IF THERE'S AN OVERSIGHT, UH, WE APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE, BUT WE CANNOT GO BACK.

WE HAD A MOTION BY BANKS SECOND BY COLLINS LEWIS.

UH, YES.

AND COUNCILMAN HUDSON, NOTHING WALTERS MS. BANKS, CAN I CLARIFY IT? SO WAS YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE WITH, UM, AN ITEM TO COME BACK FOR Y'ALL TO APPROVE THE PARAMETERS OF UNDER WHICH NO.

JUST LIKE YOU AS THE COUNSELOR ADMINISTRATOR, UM, MADE PUT PARAMETERS IN PLACE.

I WOULD LIKE, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED FOR THAT, WE, WE CAN HAVE SOME STACEY, BUT I JUST THINK THAT IF WE JUST STICK TO WHAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT SAYS, THAT'S IT, AND YOU PUT IT OUT AND YOU LET EVERYBODY KNOW.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HUDSON.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION I'M GOING TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR IT, BUT I ALSO HAVE SOME REALLY, REALLY BIG CONCERNS ABOUT FIRST OUR LOGISTICAL ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE ELECTRONIC PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO REHEAR ITEMS AND THEN ALSO THE POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE, WHICH WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF.

UM, SO I THINK THAT PROBABLY THE BETTER WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS SORT OF SIMILAR TO THE WAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAND HANDLES PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UM, WHEN A PLANNING COMMISSION CASE COMES IN, THEY WILL ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THE OPPOSITION EMAILS AND THE IN FAVOR OF EMAILS THAT COME IN WITH ACCOUNT.

UH, AND, AND THOSE ARE DONE ELECTRONICALLY THROUGH, THROUGH EMAIL.

UM, AND THAT IS READ INTO THE RECORD.

NOW THEY ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WHERE PEOPLE COME DOWN AND SPEAK.

AND SO I REALLY THINK THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO KIND OF HEAR FROM FOLKS, UH, WITHOUT HAVING THE SAME LOGISTICAL CONCERNS OF PEOPLE, EMAIL IT IN THEIR COMMENT, HAVING TO GO TO SPAM AND THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, AND IT STILL GIVES PEOPLE THAT CAN'T COME TO THE MEETING, THE CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR SAY IN SOME SORT OF WAY.

SO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WILL BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGE, THE LANGUAGE TO READ DURING A DECLARED CIVIL EMERGENCY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SUBMIT AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT IN FAVOR OR AN OPPOSITION TO AN ITEM ELECTRONICALLY MAY DO.

SO USING THE MECHANISM PROVIDED BY THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATOR DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATOR WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THE NUMBER OF ELECTRONICALLY SUBMITTED NOTES IN FAVOR AND OPPOSITION TO THE ITEM.

THERE'S A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I WANT TO SPEAK.

IS THERE A SECOND FIRST? OKAY.

YOU WANT A SECOND? YEAH.

WELL, OKAY.

YOUR SECOND IT OKAY.

THERE'S A SECOND BY WICKER.

I'M SORRY, MERE PROTEIN, YOU ONLY GOT THREE MONTHS I'VE BEEN CALLED WORSE.

SO THE WHITE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE READ AT THE PLENTY COMMISSION, THE COUNT COMMENT CARD THAT COME IN WITHOUT COMMENTS AND SUPPORT OUR OBJECTION TO WHAT THEY DO.

READ COMMENT CARDS WHEN SOMEBODY SENDS ONE HERE, BECAUSE THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE SOME COMMENT CARDS WE'RE GOING OVER THE TIMEFRAME.

SO AGAIN, UH, AFTER WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I THINK A MOTION WAS MADE, OR POINT OF ORDER WAS MADE, THEN THE CHAIRMAN STOPPED READING AT THE SAME THING TO ASK.

HE DOES AFTER THE THREE MINUTES.

UH, AND I THINK YOU'RE NOT DISCUSSED AS TO THE OTHER THING, IF THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF COMMENT CARD, JUST LIKE WHEN SCOTT, WHEN THE

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BUT, UH, DURING THE TIME WHEN THERE ARE OVERWHELMING PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM, THEN THE MAYOR PRO TEAM HAS THE AUTHORITY TO LIMIT IT TO TWO MINUTES IF NEEDED, UH, FOR COMMENTS, BUT COMMON CARD ALREADY THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, IF SOMEBODY DOES HAVE A COMMENT VERSUS A STACK OF JUST YES OR NO.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT OF CLARITY FOR THAT.

COUNCILWOMAN WICKER.

I THINK I DID.

I JUST NEEDED DISCIPLINE OF CLARIFICATION.

UM, AND I, I SECOND, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT TO DIAGS.

I THOUGHT THAT I AGREE WITH WHAT DO I SAY, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M, THAT I'M CLEAR ON THE INTENT.

SO, BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE BEFORE HE DOESN'T HAVE ALL OF THAT IN THERE.

SO IDEALLY THIS WOULD COME INTO PLAY ONLY IN TIMES, LIKE WE'RE IN NOW IN TERMS OF A PAIN, DEBBIE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR, TO GO, I GUESS, BACK TO SORT OF WHERE WE ARE ALLOW PEOPLE TO SEND IN THEIR COMMENTS ELECTRONICALLY, THEN ASHLEY WHOEVER'S PROCEEDED, UM, UH, PRESIDING OVER THE MEETING WILL READ THOSE COMMENTS THAT COME IN ELECTRONICALLY.

THEY W AGAIN, SO YES, THEY, THEY, IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING, THEY CAN'T WILL BE RED, BUT WE WILL NOT BE ANY FIRST OF ALL, THEY HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY ASK, YOU KNOW, SAY JUST LIKE A COMMENT CARD THAT THEY WANT IT TO BE RED.

SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, OH, WE GET RANDOM EMAILS.

SO THEY HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AND PROVIDE THE SAME INFORMATION YOU WOULD PROVIDE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE OTHER THING IS NOT ONLY DO THAT, WILL THEY BE LIMITED BY THE TWO OR THREE MINUTES, BUT ALSO THEY HAVE TO, UH, THE COUNCIL, IF IT GETS LOST IN SPAM, THE COUNCIL WILL NOT BE GOING BACK TO DO THOSE ITEMS IF WE VOTING ON IT TODAY.

AND I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE, SHE MAKES SURE THAT'S IT, THAT'S THIS, THIS ITEM WHERE SHE'S GONNA, SHE ASKED, SHE'S JUST LIKE, SHE MADE THE DECISION ON HOW WE, WHO COMES IN COUNCIL.

SHE'LL JUST MAKE THE, WHAT IS THE PARAMETERS ON TO GIVE TO THE PUBLIC TO FOLLOW.

SO THAT'S, THAT IS NOT A, UM, IT'S NOT LIKE LAW, BUT THEY JUST NEED A WAY TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS EXPECTED.

THAT'S ALL.

AND SO I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

SO, SO WE'RE DOING THIS, LIKE WE HAVE, UH, ANOTHER PANDEMIC KIND OF SITUATION.

UM, SO IS THAT NOT ALREADY SORT OF AUTOMATIC THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WELL RIGHT NOW, THE REASON WE CARE IS THAT WE, PEOPLE CAN NOT MAKE ELECTRONIC COMMENTS ANYMORE TO BE READ BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF COMING IN.

I GUESS THEY CAN ONLY COME IN.

THAT'S LIMITED TO 100.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT EVEN UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE'RE IN NOW, WHERE THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME INTO THE LIBRARY, HAVE BE ABLE TO STILL BE ABLE TO, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO, RIGHT? BUT NOT THE SAME PERSON, THEY HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE.

BUT FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU HAVE A LOVED ONE AND YOU CAN'T MAKE IT JUST LIKE ANYTHING, LIKE PEOPLE JUST VOTED FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, THEN THEY HAD, THEY COULD MAIL IN OR ABSENTEE OR WHATEVER.

SO IT'S THE SAME THING.

WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN A POSITION OR WHO, WHO SHOULD NOT BE EXPOSED TO THE CORONAVIRUS VIRUS, BECAUSE EITHER CARING FOR SOMEONE OR THEY HAVE, UM, COMOBILITIES OR WHATEVER, THEY HAVE THAT SAME OPTION THAT THEIR BORIS AND THEIR COMMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ELIMINATED BECAUSE OF THIS UNTIMELY AND UNPRECEDENTED TIME.

I'M A LITTLE, I'M A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE, JOHN.

AND THE ONLY REASON IS, IS BECAUSE IF WE DO ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY, CAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT THE PUBLIC, BEING ABLE TO COME IN AND HAVE THAT INTERACTION, IT IS IT'S WORSE.

IT'S BAD ENOUGH WITH US HAVING TO HAVE HIM IN THE LIBRARY.

I THINK IT'S EVEN WORSE WITH US HAVING HIM NOT BEING ABLE TO COME IN AT ALL AND DO THE ELECTRONIC.

I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT ANYBODY'S ABILITY.

MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AND Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I DON'T REMEMBER US ASKING YOU FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

KIND OF LIKE WE NORMALLY DO IF THEY, IF THEY COME HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE JUST RANDOMLY SAYING IT.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT I, THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT Y'ALL KNOW THIS WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, PEOPLE WILL SAY STUFF BEHIND THE COMPUTER SCREEN THAT THEY WILL NEVER SAY IN PUBLIC.

AND SO I THINK, AND WE, WE EXPERIENCED SOME OF THAT WHEN WE HAD ALL OF THAT CONVERSATION AND PEOPLE WERE JUST SAYING SOME VERY HURTFUL, VERY HARMFUL, VERY HORRIFIC STUFF THAT I KNOW IF THEY WERE STANDING IN FRONT OF A PODIUM PROBABLY WOULD NEVER HAVE COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTH.

I JUST THINK THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THAT NAME, THAT ADDRESS AND PHONE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

THAT'S JUST, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT PEOPLE ACT DIFFERENTLY WHEN THEY'RE NOT SITTING BEHIND A COMPUTER.

AND SO PART OF WHY, AND PART OF THAT PROCESS IS BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN INTERACT.

SO ANYWAY.

OH, OKAY.

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I APPRECIATE IT.

I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, ANDY, IF YOU COULD COME UP, I'M GOING TO ASK ASHLEY A QUESTION, COUNCILOR ADMINISTRATOR.

UH, A COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE ONE, I GUESS, REDUNDANCY OF MESSAGE.

OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LIVE AT.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET A HUNDRED EMAILS THAT ALL SAY, YOU KNOW, I LOVE RED APPLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR EMAILS THAT ARE NOT GERMANE OR EMAILS THAT INCLUDE FILE LANGUAGE OR EMAILS THAT ARE DISPARAGING TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ THROUGH ALL THAT PRIOR TO THEM GETTING TO YOU? SO WE'RE NOT GETTING HALFWAY THROUGH AN EMAIL.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS? SO, UM, MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT IS THAT THOSE ARE DETERMINATIONS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MADE BY THE CHAIR DURING A MEETING.

UM, AND SO I REALLY SHOULD NOT BE THE PERSON TO DECIDE WHETHER THAT'S GERMANE TO THE ITEM OR, OR WHETHER, UM, THIS IS DUPLICATIVE OR WHETHER IT'S INSULTING TO SOMEONE.

UM, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW YOU WOULD AVOID ME READING ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT COME IN AND THEN THE CHAIR WHOEVER'S THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING WOULD HAVE TO STOP, PARDON ME FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING THE FULL DETAILS OF THIS, BUT THE CUTOFF FOR WHEN THE EMAILS WOULD BE RECEIVED WOULD BE, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, WHEN WE WERE VIRTUAL, IT WAS 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.

IT WAS A THREE O'CLOCK, THREE O'CLOCK PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

SO THAT REALLY CREATES IT.

IT AFFORDS A WHOLE LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO HAMPER.

HOWEVER, IT PUTS A WHOLE LOT OF STRESS ON YOU.

OTHER THAN THAT, PUT YOU IN A SITUATION WITH EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE GOT TO DO PRIOR TO THE MEETING TO HAVE TO JUST READ SOMETHING LIVE.

AND WHEN YOU GET TO IT, YOU GET TO IT AND YOU KIND OF HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ON THE FLY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WELL, THAT'S HOW IT WORKED.

WHEN WE WERE DOING ALL OF OUR TRIALS COUNCIL, ONE OF THE BANKS IS IT LEAVES, IT LEAVES US IN THAT SAME SITUATION.

UM, I MEAN, I THINK IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE COUNCILMAN BANKS AND I'M I'M I, I THINK WHAT I UNDERSTAND HER TO SAY, SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS THAT SHE WOULD LIKE ME TO COME UP WITH THE PARAMETERS AND THE RULES SURROUNDING ELECTRONIC COMMENTS.

COUNCIL'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ELECTRONIC MALFUNCTION DISSEMINATE.

COUNCILWOMAN, HE'S GOT THE FLOOR, PLEASE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU, ANDY.

I HAVE ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION, WHICH YOU AND I JUST SPOKE ABOUT BACK IN THE BACK.

I JUST WANTED YOU TO COME UP HERE AND SAY IT ON WHEN WE'RE IN A SUIT.

WHAT MY FEAR WAS IS IF WE HAD CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS EMAILS GO INTO SPAM AND GET OVERLOOKED, ARE WE GOING TO BE VIOLATING ANY OF THEIR RIGHTS BY NOT GOING BACK AND DOING THIS? BUT YOU TOLD ME THERE WOULD BE A DISCLAIMER, WHICH STATES, WELL, WELL, WHAT I SAID, COUNCILMAN YOU'RE RIGHT.

WHAT I SAID IS THAT SINCE THE ANSWER'S GOING TO BE MAKING THE PROTOCOL IS A PARTICIPANT.

SHE COULD PUT A DISCLAIMER IN PLACE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE SENDING THIS EMAIL AT THE POTENTIAL THAT IT COULD BE, UH, NOT RESCINDED OR COULD BE PUT INTO SPAM AND THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVE HIM THAT KIND OF WARNING.

UH, BUT IT'D BE HAD SOME, WE HAD TO LOOK AT, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, THIS IS A FIRST IMPRESSION.

THIS IS NOT IN ANYWHERE.

IT'S NOT WRITTEN ANYWHERE.

IT HASN'T BEEN TESTED ANYWHERE.

AND SO WE MAY HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACID DRAFTS THOSE PROTOCOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT I WAS THINKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

THAT'S ONE WAY THAT WE CAN AVOID, RIGHT? NOT WORD.

AND MAYBE SO WE CAN DO IT AGAIN.

THAT'S OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT RESEARCH MAY SUPPORT THAT.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S A FIRST IMPRESSION, BUT WE WILL WORK ON THOSE KINDS OF PARAMETERS TO LIMIT THE EXPOSURE TO HAVING THAT KIND OF PROGRAM.

GET INTO A, AND DONNA HAD RAISED A POINT THAT SOMEBODY WAS OFF TOPIC OR SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHERE DO YOU GO WITH THAT? AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'VE WORKED HARD TO SIT THERE AND TO GET IT BACK IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, TO GET BACK PEOPLE IN THE LIBRARY TO WHERE THEY MAKE A CUP PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANDY.

I'M DONE, I GUESS A LOOK UP, ANYBODY LIKES PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THAT'S FINE, BUT I GUESS I GOT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WE'RE BACK.

AND WE CAME BACK IN THE CHAMBERS AND WE GOT AT THE LIBRARY.

THEY LET ME SAY THIS.

ASHLEY WORKED VERY HARD AND I DIDN'T GIVE HER A CUT.

SHE WORKED VERY HARD AND DENNIS AND THE REST, I'M LEAVING OUT NAMES TO DO, TO GET US BACK IN HERE TO WHERE WE COULD GET PEOPLE IN THE LIBRARY TO WHERE WE GET BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU GET A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT'S MORE THAN WE COULD PUT IN HERE PROBABLY AS FAR AS A HUNDRED PEOPLE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

BUT I GUESS THE PROBLEM IS IS THAT THE EMAILS COME THROUGH AND IF WE MISS ONE AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM I GOT IS, I MEAN, WE GOT TO REDO SOMETHING, BUT CAN, COULD I PLEASE, I MEAN, PLEASE DO.

I MEAN, I'M TALKING, BUT THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT IT HAS BEEN VERY MINIMAL, USED VERY MINIMAL AND I'M NOT, I'M JUST NOT MAKING IT DON'T MEAN TO MAKE EXAMPLE OF MS. HARDING.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD AN EMAIL FROM HER SINCE THIS WHOLE, SINCE WE WERE VIRTUAL.

I DON'T THINK WE, I DON'T THINK WE HAD AN EMAIL FROM HER AND WE HAD VERY MINIMAL EMAILS FROM PEOPLE EXCEPT MAYBE AT PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING YOU

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AND SO I DISAGREE.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DO A HYBRID VIRTUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, LIKE TO BE AT HOME AND COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE.

I MEAN, BUT WE CAN'T EITHER HERE OR YOU'RE NOT.

AND SO I JUST, I DISAGREE.

I MEAN, I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST IT.

YES, MA'AM UM, COURTNEY AND ANDY, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BEFORE EVERYBODY VOTES ON THIS, THAT ANY, ANY PARAMETERS THAT I COME UP WITH, THE RULES THAT I COME UP WITH ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW.

SO MY CONCERN ABOUT A DISCLAIMER, I CAN'T DISCLAIM THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW.

AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, TO ANDY'S POINT, WE ARE ALL FACING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND YOU KNOW, I IT'S, IT'S NOT A FIELD THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND A WHOLE LOT OF CASES ON OR ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS ON.

SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO BE, MAKE SURE I'M VERY UPFRONT WITH ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE THEY VOTE ON THIS, THAT ANY, ANY RULES OR PARAMETERS THAT I DRAFT AND DISSEMINATE TO EVERYBODY ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO BE HELD UP TO THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW.

I UNDERSTAND THE, I GUESS I'M GOING TO SAY THAT NOT WANTING TO DO IT, BUT AGAIN, WE ARE.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE DOING THIS WITHOUT A CAUSE.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE CAN STILL GET A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THE LIBRARY, IF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO THE LIBRARY BECAUSE OF COVID, THEY'RE STILL NOT GOING TO COME.

AND SO IF WE DON'T GIVE PEOPLE THE RIGHT, SO FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY READ EVERY COMMENT CAR THAT COMES IN.

IF IT GOES BEYOND A THREE MINUTES, THEY JUST SHUT IT OFF AND THEY DON'T READ THE REST OF IT.

THEY MAKE NOT KNOWN THAT IT'S A THREE.

SO PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW ASHLEY, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS, IT'S READ YOUR COMMENT.

IF THERE'S A LONG WAY, THREE MINUTES, LIKE A COMMERCIAL ON THE RADIO, CUT IT OFF.

AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S BAD LANGUAGE IN THERE, YOU'VE DONE IT BEFORE WHERE WE HAD THEM WITH THE, WITH THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, FALL HISTORY.

WHEN YOU REALIZED THAT THEY WERE SAYING, YOU READ OVER IT.

AND SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO, BUT TAKING THAT AWAY FROM SOMEBODY AT THIS TIME, I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO IT AT ANY OTHER TIME, EXCEPT FOR THIS PANDEMIC.

UH, WE KNOW THAT COVID CASES ARE ON THE UPTICK.

WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK INTO VIRTUAL MEETINGS, BUT AGAINST IF PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO SPEAK, TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO COME TO THE LIBRARY.

THE LIBRARY IS FINE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT SOME PEOPLE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL NOT LEAVING THEIR HOMES, WHETHER THEY HAVE ELDERLY PARENTS OR NOT.

I JUST DON'T FEEL SAFE GOING OUT INTO LARGER SPACES UNTIL THEY GOT TO COME IN THE LIBRARY.

YOU'RE STILL AROUND PEOPLE, PEOPLE TAKING THEIR MASK OFF.

SO I STILL THINK THAT WE DON'T TAKE THE ABILITY AWAY FROM PEOPLE TO SPEAK.

WE'RE LIMITED TO THE TWO OR THREE MINUTES OR WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT IT TO, BUT STILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO SEND IN THEIR COMMENT CARDS IN A TIMELY FASHION SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THEM.

BUT THE OTHER THING I'LL MENTION, WE HAVE NOT, THIS HAS BEEN SINCE MARCH, WE'VE BEEN BACKWARD MAYBE A MONTH OR SO.

AND WE HAVE NOT REALLY HAD THAT MANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WHERE IT WAS OVERWHELMING WITH CALMING CARDS.

WE HAVE AT THE, AT THE PIONEER ADULTING MEETING AT ZONING, WE SAT THERE AND THEY READ COMMON CARS FOR ALMOST TWO HOURS, ONE NIGHT, TWO HOURS, BUT THEY READ EVERY ONE OF THEM INTO THE RECORD, BUT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ON EVERY AGENDA ITEM.

SO I, YOU KNOW, AND WE MAY GET A FEW COMMENTS OF AS US HAT ISSUE HAD BUTTON ISSUE.

OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO WORK THROUGH THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC CAN STAY ENGAGED AND THEIR VOICES CAN BE HEARD.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, NO MORE SPEAKERS.

I SEE WE'LL VOTE ON COUNCILMAN HUDSON'S SUBSTITUTE MOTION WITH COUNCIL.

ONE WICKER.

SECOND, UH, ASHLEY, YOU WANT TO READ THAT IS COUNCILMAN HUDSON'S SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS TO, UM, ADD THAT DURING ANY DECLARED CIVIL EMERGENCY.

UM, I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY SINGLE WORD OF IT, BUT BASICALLY THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATOR WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THE NUMBER OF COMMENTS IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION TO AN ITEM, AS OPPOSED TO THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL OF READING.

ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SUBMITTED VIA EMAIL AND WE'LL VOTE ON THE MACHINE.

MACHINES ARE OPEN ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION ITEM FAILS.

WE'LL GO TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM ONE 22.

UH, MY BANK SECOND BY COLLINS LEWIS.

ASHLEY OPENED UP THE MACHINE MACHINES ARE OPEN ON A MOTION TO APPROVE.

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I MEAN, 43, A RESOLUTION REQUIRING ALL MEMBERS OF THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL.

SO THE MOTION CARRIES ON ONE 22 IS ONE 22 IS APPROVED.

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TAKE PART IN THE DIALOGUE ON RACE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL SERIES INJURY 2021 BY COUNCILWOMAN, SHAUNA BANKS LAYS IN JAILS, A PUBLIC HEARING.

HE MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK.

HE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE ON ITEM ONE 23.

PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

IT'S NOT CUTE TO PRESENT THE DIALOGUE ON RACE WITHOUT IT'S A WAY OF TALKING ABOUT RACE, RECOGNIZE THAT HE'S RACIST AS AT ALL.

AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE DESIGNED IS STRUCTURED, FACILITATED AND BACKED BY THAT ALLOWS IT TO SET AT A TIME MANY TIMES.

CAN I ASK YOU THAT? AND THE SUPPORT AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THIS IS A CONSTANT QUESTION.

SO MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION IN CANADA THAT MAYBE THAT IS THAT THE SPACE WHERE THEY CAN SENSE THE DEPTH A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND SO, UM, THEY'RE HERE JUST SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE AN INFORMAL, UM, Y SO THAT OUR CONVERSATIONS AND UP STANDING, UM, PROBLEM, IT'S A BIG, GOOD TO GET CLEAR ON WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND THAT, AND GAVE ME SKILLS AND OKAY, LADIES AND JAN WAS A PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE, TWO, THREE B, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS JENNIFER CARLISLE AGAINST THAT HALF, UH, PROGRESSIVE SOCIAL NETWORK.

UH, WE WANT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE NEW COUNCIL COMING IN AND TAKING DIALOGUE ON RACE.

UM, ALL OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM OF PROGRESSIVE SOCIAL NETWORK HAS BEEN APPROPRIATE.

UH, AND WE SUPPORT THE COUNCIL.

UH, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, UH, THE NEW ABLE TO DO IT TOGETHER, OR IF THAT VIOLATES A PUBLIC MEETING LAWS, BUT WE THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY COULD, UH, SO THAT YOU COULD WORK OUT, UH, ISSUES HAVE UNDERSTANDING TOGETHER SO THAT WE'RE MEETING TOGETHER AS A NEW GROUP, UH, Y'ALL ARE READY TO ROLL WITH SOME KIND OF UNDERSTANDING.

SO WE HOPE THAT YOU VOTE FOR YOUR, YOUR, UH, UH, NEW FOLKS TO TAKE THE SIDE.

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UM, MS. MAXINE, CARMIA ON, UH, DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? THAT CRUMP ON DIALOGUE ON RACE.

HEY, ELIZA AND JAN WAS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE SPEAK ON ITEM ONE 23, SAYING HERE'S CLOSE COUNCILWOMAN BANKS, YOUR MIC PLEASE.

YEARS AGO.

UH, WE MET WITH, UM, THE

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AND, UH, IT'S JUST BEEN SO MUCH THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS THE PROPER TIME BECAUSE IT WOULD GIVE A FOUNDATION TO THE NEW COUNCIL, UM, TO WORK IN A KEY COHESIVE MANNER.

UH, IN 20, I THINK THREE YEARS AGO, I WENT THROUGH DIALOGUE ON RACE AND, UM, I HAVE SOME LONG LASTING FRIENDS ON BOTH OF BOTH SIDES FROM IT.

SO IT'S JUST REALLY GOOD THAT WE HAVE TIME IN THE NEXT COUNCIL TO DECIDE IF IT'S PART OF A RETREAT OR, UM, THE 12 OR SIX OR WHATEVER.

BUT I THINK THAT JUST SAYS WE, UM, GO THROUGH ETHICS TRAINING AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING THAT DIALOGUE ON RACE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE ADD, UM, TO, TO STRENGTHEN US, UM, IN THIS PROCESS OF GOVERNING MOTION TO APPROVE, GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY BANKS THERE.

SECOND, SECOND BY COLLINS LEWIS, UH, NEXT SPACE, UH, COUNCILMAN WATSON.

LINDA, COULD YOU COME UP HERE PLEASE? LINDA, WE'RE JUST HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE TOPIC THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT LET'S TALK, LET'S GET A 50,000 FOOT VIEW ON MANDATING, UH, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO UTILIZE A SPECIFIC PROGRAM BY A SPECIFIC PERSON AND OR BUSINESS.

YOU TOLD ME THAT THERE IS MANDATED TRAINING, ETHICS TRAINING, AND THE LIKE, AND THAT IS DONE BECAUSE IT FACILITATED BY THE STATE, CORRECT? YES.

THERE'S STATE LAWS ON ETHICS, UM, ETHICS TRAINING, AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING.

AND THE STATE REQUIRES THAT, UM, WE HAVE THOSE AND THE STATE HAS SET UP TRAINING PROGRAMS AND THE PARISH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I THINK EVEN WE'LL TRAIN ON THEM.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MANDATED BY THE STATE FOR ALL OF US TO TAKE THROUGH THE STATE.

UM, DID WE HAVE TO DO ANY KIND OF RFP OR RFQ OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE WE CHOOSE SOME? CAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE'S, UH, OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE PROGRAMS, LIKE WHAT MAKES CRUMP HAS, OKAY.

I WOULD DEFER TO PURCHASING, BUT I BELIEVE UNDER A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED BY LAW, UM, TO DO A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, TO PROCURE A PARTICULAR SERVICE.

HAVE WE EVER HAD A LEGAL REQUIREMENT ON COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, TO TAKE PART IN USING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE THAT I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE ITEM IS THAT, THAT IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE STATE REQUIRING THIS SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING, THE COUNCIL, UH, THE COUNCIL IS REQUIRING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO THIS OTHER TRAINING.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS WHEN YOU, WHEN THE STATE REQUIRES ALL OF US TO TAKE ETHICS TRAINING, IT'S THE STATE MANDATES IN THE STATE FACILITATES THE TRAINING.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN WICKER.

SO WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, AND I'M ASKING IF THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR THIS FOR COUNCIL TO MANDATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TO NOT TAKE A STATE MANDATED ETHICS COURSE OF THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT TO INSTEAD BE MANDATED TO UTILIZE, UH, A SPECIFIC PERSON OR BUSINESS THROUGH A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT, HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED BEFORE? NOT THAT I CAN RECALL.

THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST BELIEVE YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE MORALITY AND, AND MAKE PEOPLE DO OR FEEL A CERTAIN THING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON, UM, ON THIS ITEM.

UM, AND I, TO COUNSEL MY BANKS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN AND GO THROUGH DIALOGUE ON RACE AND, AND FOUND IT TO BE, UM, VERY EYEOPENING, VERY INVOLVED AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, KEPT COMING BACK.

IT WAS A REALLY GOOD SESSION FOR ME, UM, IN PARTICULAR AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

SO I DO SEE THE VALUE IN IT.

I, MY, MY CONCERN IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, ACTUALLY HAVING, GOING THROUGH THE DIALOGUE ON RACE, UM, ONE THING IS I KNOW THAT WE WON'T THIS COUNCIL, THE BULK OF THIS COUNCIL SITTING HERE, WON'T BE HERE TO GO THROUGH THAT.

SO MY, MY QUESTION IS, WOULD IT BE, UM, BETTER FOR THIS DECISION TO BE MADE BY THE NEXT COUNCIL THAT'S ACTUALLY SITTING HERE AND LET THEM MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THEMSELVES, OR AS OPPOSED TO US MAKING THAT DECISION FOR THEM? THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I JUST HAVE IS, IS THE WORD REQUIRING.

UM, I THINK

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UM, THAT'S NOT PART OF THEIR HEART, BUT I WILL SAY THIS.

UM, I THINK THAT, UM, IF IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE, UM, PROVIDED, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO GO THROUGH THAT.

AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS HAVING GONE THROUGH DIALOGUE ON RACE, UNLIKE THE ETHICS TRAINING DURING THE ETHICS TRAINING, WE LITERALLY SIT THERE AND WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DIALOGUE.

THERE'S NOT GOING BACK AND FORTH.

THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY GIVING YOU INFORMATION ON YOUR DO'S AND DON'TS WHAT YOU CAN DO, WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.

UM, AS OPPOSED TO DIALOGUE ON RACE, IT IS THE SUCCESS OF THE WHOLE PROGRAM IS THAT THERE'S THIS CONVERSATION THAT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH.

AND USUALLY THAT CONVERSATION IS A GOING BACK AND FORTH OF ONLY PARTICIPANTS THAT WANT TO BE IN THAT ROOM.

I DO NOT WANT TO, UM, TO, TO REQUIRE PEOPLE TO HAVE TO SIT IN A ROOM WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME CONVICTIONS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT RACE AND FORCE THEM TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE GOING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DIALOGUE ON RACE IS NOT REALLY SUCCESS BECAUSE IT'S NOT INFORMATION, IT'S MORE DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATION AND A SHARED LEARNED EXPERIENCE.

AND IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THERE ONLY BECAUSE I'M REQUIRED BY COUNCIL AND BY LAW TO BE THERE, THEN HOW MUCH VALUE WILL YOU REALLY GET OUT OF? THAT IS MY ONLY POINT.

AND, AND SO I THINK, UM, I THINK WE OFFER IT, I THINK, BUT IF YOU REQUIRE PEOPLE TO DO THAT, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION AND REALLY A WHOLE DIFFERENT RESULT.

CAUSE I ASSUME THAT THE ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SHARED UNDERSTANDING, SHARED CONVICTIONS, SHARED CONVERSATION AND DIALOGUE, BUT IF I'M FORCED TO DO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AM I REAL OR ARE WE REALLY GETTING THE RESULTS THAT WE, THAT WE ACTUALLY SEE? AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS IS THERE, IS THERE A COST FOR IT? I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ASSOCIATED.

I PROBABLY JUST MISS IT IN THE INFORMATION, BUT IS THERE A COST FOR THE PROGRAM? WHERE ARE YOU? ARE YOU ADDRESSING ME? WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, WITH DIALOGUE ON RATES, IT DOES NOT FORCE ANYONE TO CHANGE THEIR CONVICTIONS, THEIR IDEAS, THEIR MORALITY, OR ANYTHING.

IT IS BASICALLY JUST WHAT IT SAYS, IT'S A CONVERSATION AND IT ALSO GIVES HER FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, THINGS REGARDING RACE.

UM, SO THAT'S THE FIRST MYTH I'D LIKE TO, UM, ELIMINATE.

THE OTHER THING IS, UM, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH SEXUAL HARASSMENT, WHICH IS A VERY NEW THING, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE RESIST AS WELL, BUT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, OR FORTUNATELY PEOPLE AREN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY.

A MATTER OF FACT, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELIEVE SEXUAL HARASSMENT ACTUALLY OCCURS, BUT THAT WILL NOT ELIMINATE THEM FROM GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO THIS PART OF THE RESOLUTION IS, UM, REQUIRING MEMBERS TO GO, BUT THERE WOULD BE A, ANOTHER ITEM AS IT RELATES TO, UM, UM, THE, LIKE THE, WHAT WAS IT, THE PROFESSIONAL, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, THERE'LL BE A COMP, IT'LL BE ANOTHER ITEM THAT WILL COME UP.

WE'VE ALREADY, I, I THOUGHT YOU WERE IN THOSE MEETINGS WITH, UM, MATT WHERE WE MET ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

CAUSE SHE SENT AN EMAIL TO ALL OF US.

UH, REMEMBER I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY POLICE AMBASSADORS, WE DID SOMETHING CALLED RACE TALK.

WELL, WE JUST GOT TOGETHER AND HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS SIMILAR TO THIS, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS NOT AS FORMALIZED.

AND NOW THAT WAS MY ONLY POINT.

I WANT TO SAY THAT SHE'S MAKING THAT, THE REASON I PUT COUNCIL SERIES IS BECAUSE IT WILL NOT BE LIKE WHAT WE WENT THROUGH.

IT WILL.

AND I THINK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS GOTTEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS IT WILL BE, UM, IS STRUCTURED ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT WE WENT THROUGH, THE FULL, YEAH, THAT WAS LITERALLY MY ONLY 0.5 MINUTES.

CAUSE I'M GOING TO BE FINISHED.

I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY POINT IS THAT IF THIS IS, UM, GOING TO BE STRUCTURED, IF IT'S STRUCTURED THE WAY THAT YOU AND I DID DIALOGUE ON RACE, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'LL REALLY WORK IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

BUT IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS STRUCTURED OR THE CURRICULUM IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WE DO IN ETHICS TRAINING OR SEXUAL HARASSMENT, WHEREAS MORE OF INFORMATION AND IMPACT OF CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU SAY, CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, THAT'S OFFENSIVE, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THEN I COULD SEE THAT BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DELIBERATE DELIVERABLE, AS OPPOSED TO EXPECTING PEOPLE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO BE IN THAT ROLE TO INVOLVE ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION THAT THEY REALLY MAY NOT BELIEVE IT THAT'S MY ONLY POINT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION COUNCILMAN HUDSON.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME, SOME

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THOUGHTS.

YOU KNOW, MY, MY CONCERNS WITH THE ARE VERY SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN WICKER'S.

UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE OVERLOOKED THAT WE NEED TO BE HAVING A DIALOGUE ON RACE.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT IF THERE'S ANY OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL.

UH, ESPECIALLY MY BLACK COLLEAGUES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A DIALOGUE ON RACE WITH ME PERSONALLY, GO GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE.

I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.

IF THE MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.

WE'VE DONE THAT, UH, TO SOME DEGREE, UH, IF THERE'S A CONSTITUENT OF MINE THAT WANTS TO DO THAT, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, UH, IN THAT REGARD I AM A READY, WILLING AND ABLE PARTICIPANT.

SO THANK YOU.

HI, I ALSO COMMIT TO PARTICIPATING, UM, ON MY OWN, BUT, AND POTENTIALLY AS A COUNCIL PERSON, THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THIS IS THAT AS ATTORNEYS THAT SIT IN THIS ROOM, WE CAN ALL SAY THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLETE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ETHICS, PROFESSIONALISM, UM, CERTAIN TYPES OF TRAINING, THE STATE MANDATES THAT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE STATE.

DOESN'T TELL US WHERE TO GET THAT TRAINING.

AND I THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN REQUIRE SOMEONE TO GET THIS PARTICULAR TRAINING, BUT WE CANNOT SAY WHERE, THINK THAT BECOMES THE ISSUE WHEN WE PICK UP PARTICULAR GROUP OR VENDOR, AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THIS GROUP OR VENDOR, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE HAIRY AND, UM, MAYBE CROSSING SOME LINES.

BUT I, I DO THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL PROGRAM AND UM, BUT I JUST, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE LIES.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY, ANY OTHER STICKERS? OKAY.

WELL, WE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE BY BANKS.

SECOND BY COLLINS LEWIS, WE'LL GO AND VOTE ON THE MACHINES OR LIGHTING ONE 23 TO APPROVE ITEM.

ONE 23 MACHINES ARE OPEN ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE.